The bokeh on the images are really great. The bokeh is comparable to the 600 f4 (almost) and sharpness is also really great in this lens but the main reason to get this lens is it's weight,size and price it's really cheap for what it is, for a little compromise it is priced extremely well
With a lens and camera combination that is 10 times more expensive than mine ( 7D II + Tamron 100-400) it’s no wonder you’ve captured amazing shots like these. Great video anyway.
What an amazing lens just what I want it's only 2385g.... I have a Sigma 300-800mm F5.6 Nikon F. It's 5880 g would you like to swap? has a bit more light F5.6 vs F6.3 😀 Excellent images great work.
Excellent video. It is said that sometimes the bokeh of PF lenses is "different "from that of ordinary lenses (e.g. Z600mmTC ) Did you see any difference?
Siempre que voy a fotografiar a entornos arenosos en la costa con las aves playeras me gusta proteger el equipo con fundas que yo mismo me fabrico, Por supuesto la ropa es importante para estar cómodo y aislado de la humedad. Prefiero un traje de neopreno fino de los de surf o un vadeador ligero, que los hay y muy baratos. Como bien dices, cuerpo a tierra y punto de vista bajo. Buen vídeo
What comes to my mind 800 mm f6.3 vs 150-400 f4.5 (OM System) That's actually f6.3 vs f9.0 depth of field fight. Just 1EV of DoF difference. Seems not much.. It does mean for me that: *if he object gets closer* the depth of field will be almost indentical _(almost, not entirely..)._ Worse if the object doesn't fill the frame... then, depth of field increases more, so it's not that shallow anmore. But then.. I would say it would be fight of tase: *I want shallow depth* vs *I want target including his environment more by showing the background.*
Yes, the depth of field is the same as with the (much cheaper) Canon RF200-800/6.3-9. As you say, for songbirds it’s usually ok, but for many other species I don’t like the large depth of field. If you occasionally want to show more background, then you can always stop down the Z800/6.3 😊
@@FabianFoppNaturephotography I completely forgot about 200-800 Fabian! I don't like it either. I prefer also shallow depth. I wonder about my upgrade from A7-IV and 200-600, to OM1 mark II + 150-400, or Z8/Z6III with 800 mm F6.3. + x1.4 TC (as between 800-1000 mm lens would be preferable by me at base). Even though about 300 mm f2.8 GM with TC's, but that might hit at x2 TC image quality there.. and I need mostly 800 mm at base. That's almost ideal focal length for 65% of my shooting, 35% is around 350-400 mm. I love sunrises, and sunsets, birds on water and songbirds, though getting other animals than only birds is also very important and you have to keep distance. I don't know which way should I go, as I also keep hiking, I use my legs a lot. I don't prefer to sit and wait, and the decision is there hard. Maybe your opinion would be crucial, as you have tested a lot of the systems. Thanks in advance Fabian!
I really dont understand dog owners, there are so many places you can take a dog to let it run off a lead so why cant they respect the fact that beaches aren't one of thise places. We have a similar issue at a beach near near me, it's fantastic for photography because with patience the birds will come cloe to you andnyou can get low angles easily but people just ignore the signs etc during breeding season and the local wildlife rangers dont have the money or staff to make sure people follow the rules.
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Great footage and photos as always Fabian. Thanks for sharing your workflow✌
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Very nice images and clear explanations of how you got your captures. Thanks!
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Beautiful! What do you think about bokeh of this lens in comparison with 600 mm f4, is there big difference?
No, it’s not dramatic. But I made a review of the Z800/6.3 😊
@@FabianFoppNaturephotography I watched it👍
The bokeh on the images are really great. The bokeh is comparable to the 600 f4 (almost) and sharpness is also really great in this lens but the main reason to get this lens is it's weight,size and price it's really cheap for what it is, for a little compromise it is priced extremely well
Thanks!
Thank you so much for this review.
I'll keep following you because you give such useful information.
All the best 💚
Thanks a lot
With a lens and camera combination that is 10 times more expensive than mine ( 7D II + Tamron 100-400) it’s no wonder you’ve captured amazing shots like these. Great video anyway.
Honestly, a lot is also possible with your camera. Just by getting a better tennis racket I will not be able to compete with Roger Federer
In this video Duade gives the exact same advice as Fabian here, but uses a much cheaper old kit: ruclips.net/video/0jKnaIPsq4k/видео.html
Very interesting again Fabian !
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Another great video!
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Astounding photos Fabian 😀 and lovely bokeh from that lens
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What an amazing lens just what I want it's only 2385g.... I have a Sigma 300-800mm F5.6 Nikon F. It's 5880 g would you like to swap? has a bit more light F5.6 vs F6.3 😀 Excellent images great work.
Yeah, it’s amazing if you photograph a lot of shy species
I would like to hear how you prepare when you choose a location. What about tides and the angle of the sun to the beach
Thanks for the feedback, I will try to include it in future videos
Amazing work! Would love to see your editing on one of these photos.
Thanks for the feedback
Terrific images, so jealous! But then again, I rarely bleed to get an image ;-)
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Excellent video. It is said that sometimes the bokeh of PF lenses is "different "from that of ordinary lenses (e.g. Z600mmTC )
Did you see any difference?
No, I didn’t observe that, even in backlight. Either I was just lucky or it was really more of an issue with older PF lenses
@@FabianFoppNaturephotography Thank you
Siempre que voy a fotografiar a entornos arenosos en la costa con las aves playeras me gusta proteger el equipo con fundas que yo mismo me fabrico, Por supuesto la ropa es importante para estar cómodo y aislado de la humedad. Prefiero un traje de neopreno fino de los de surf o un vadeador ligero, que los hay y muy baratos. Como bien dices, cuerpo a tierra y punto de vista bajo. Buen vídeo
Gracias
Wouldn't be 600mm f4 TC lens better suited for your needs? You seem to have great experience in getting very close to birds
Yes, I would go for the 600/4. But I do these reviews also for other people 😊
What comes to my mind 800 mm f6.3 vs 150-400 f4.5 (OM System)
That's actually f6.3 vs f9.0 depth of field fight. Just 1EV of DoF difference. Seems not much..
It does mean for me that: *if he object gets closer* the depth of field will be almost indentical _(almost, not entirely..)._
Worse if the object doesn't fill the frame... then, depth of field increases more, so it's not that shallow anmore.
But then.. I would say it would be fight of tase: *I want shallow depth* vs *I want target including his environment more by showing the background.*
Yes, the depth of field is the same as with the (much cheaper) Canon RF200-800/6.3-9. As you say, for songbirds it’s usually ok, but for many other species I don’t like the large depth of field. If you occasionally want to show more background, then you can always stop down the Z800/6.3 😊
@@FabianFoppNaturephotography I completely forgot about 200-800 Fabian!
I don't like it either. I prefer also shallow depth.
I wonder about my upgrade from A7-IV and 200-600, to OM1 mark II + 150-400, or Z8/Z6III with 800 mm F6.3. + x1.4 TC (as between 800-1000 mm lens would be preferable by me at base). Even though about 300 mm f2.8 GM with TC's, but that might hit at x2 TC image quality there.. and I need mostly 800 mm at base. That's almost ideal focal length for 65% of my shooting, 35% is around 350-400 mm. I love sunrises, and sunsets, birds on water and songbirds, though getting other animals than only birds is also very important and you have to keep distance. I don't know which way should I go, as I also keep hiking, I use my legs a lot. I don't prefer to sit and wait, and the decision is there hard. Maybe your opinion would be crucial, as you have tested a lot of the systems. Thanks in advance Fabian!
Fabian what are your favorite birds spots along the coast of Spain?
Hmm, difficult to say. I was a lot around Valencia, but also close to Sevilla and not to forget the Deltebre
I really dont understand dog owners, there are so many places you can take a dog to let it run off a lead so why cant they respect the fact that beaches aren't one of thise places.
We have a similar issue at a beach near near me, it's fantastic for photography because with patience the birds will come cloe to you andnyou can get low angles easily but people just ignore the signs etc during breeding season and the local wildlife rangers dont have the money or staff to make sure people follow the rules.
Oh, that also sounds pretty bad