How Much Money do Strongmen Win?
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- Опубликовано: 24 авг 2022
- We take a look at the prize money in Pro Open Weight Strongman competitions, and compare the purses of different promotors/shows.
We also take a look at the evolution of prize money in the sport, and which strongman has won the most prize money this year.
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Now, if they just gave prize money to the best youtube channel coverage and commentators... Loz and Liz for the win! Seriously, most of the inspiration and enjoyment I get is from you guy's. YOU GUY'S get me excited about attending events. (The one's that I can in the states at least).
The drop off from 1st to 2nd at the shaw classic is so much more reasonable than WSM, Giants Live, Arnolds and WUS. Rogues drop off from the podium was quite high after the top 3 which seemed more reasonable.
I do hope Martins does do one more WSM but financially I understand why he might be exclusively compete for the Rogue Invitational
There should be a sizable gap between 1st and 2nd, because well it's first, and there should be an extra incentive to push for it. I think the podium should have the fair share of money, but 4th to last do need to come up a bit. Just a bit.
Martins goal is to go down as a strongman great and he believes that you need more than 1 wsm title to achieve that so I'd bet he will return to wsm
@@a-a-rondavis9438 Hmm fair, but I think there's already great incentive to push for 1st if you're battling it out for the top two. And if someone is coming around third, I think their motivation to get on the podium would be pretty high as well
I agree. Roque drop from 1st to 2nd was a bit too much imo.
Are you kidding me? Of course he’s gonna do more wsm, even tho it’s a shit show it’s still the biggest name in the sport
Definitely agree on the need for a better spread of prize money. I mean, would you rather have one rich guy who wins it all or enable an entire community of athletes to live off their sport? I'd prefer the latter. In the end, it's basically a job and a costly one at that.
That makes no sense bro.
The one rich guy deserves that money. The 1st place winner came prepared and was just the better athlete that day. Not saying all those guys don’t come prepared but in reality we only really care about the podium finishers. Podium finishers are the ones who put on the best performance. 4th-5th place winners made it entertaining for the show because they are still trying to battle for the podium spot. Makes sense to pay the highest amount to podium winners then balance the rest to other competitors. Let’s say you were a boss in giving out bonus money based on yearly performance and attendance. You would reward the money based on best to worse.
@@kingofthenorth4550 There are two extremes, then the middle. The person you were responding to wasn't suggesting a flat prize pool where there's no point to winning first, but you responded as if they had.
If someone can make a living on being good enough to be invited and entertaining, they can devote more time to the sport and it grows as a whole.
Eddie didn't win WSM until he found a sponsor who paid him to quit his day job. Luke didn't get close on the log record while he was on an oil rig for months at a time, and Hafthor despite his ridiculous genetics didn't get REAL good until that GoT money came in.
Allowing more people to devote more time to strongman makes the whole sport better. And that's not the same as taking away first prize.
Maybe instead of $80k/$4k first/last prize, you de $75k/$6k. Barely a drop for #1 but a 50% gain for last.
Don't get caught on extremes, it doesn't help anyone.
@@anthonypillarella 🖕mid response
@@kingofthenorth4550 Didn't say you shouldn't pay the winner the most. I just meant giving all the money to 3 people (like some shows) is stupid. Especially bc that makes it easier for the top guy to stay the top guy instead of helping to grow the sport.
I think the winner of worlds strongest man should be far ahead in terms of prize money. Its the biggest competition and your getting the title of strongest man in the world.
Probably the best thumbnail yet on this channel
When one considers the risk of injury it’s not enough
Consider the food bill, it's not enough! Lol
@@77slate food bill for Brian alone is probably 100k a year haha
Good thing he is sponsored by trifecta. Thats a huge load off his payments
@@Kamyen316 Costco is life for Brian as well.
Its great to see prize money going up, but I'm curious on average what does it cost to be a strongman.
Food, equipment. medical, physical therapy must put most strongman at a deficit?
that is a great video idea!! 😍👍
A good deal is covered by sponsors, which only benefits good Strongmen on the rise that have good rapport with either local communities or major producers like Trifecta or something. The Stoltmans I think may still be sponsored by their local meat processing company, which provides the bulk of their diets.
It depends on how far strongman wants to go I'd imagine spent loads in order to break that 505
I'd love this. There have been a lot of videos on food and food costs, but the rest would be interesting, too.
Have thought the same! There's a lot of cost to shoulder considering the earning potential is limited. Think its also why so many have their RUclips and Instagram accounts for more income streams. Plus they do it as a second job! Crazy that some of these guys are professional athletes as a side hustle
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Strongman is niche, but im not gonna lie you guys are doing a GREAT job expanding it! The strongman culture definitely acknowledges and appreciate you both for this! I Love the fact yall cover it CONSISTENTLY! Makes it seem important cause it is. Thank you!
If Rogue took 32k from 1st and added 4k to 3rd-10th it would look something like this.
1st 101k
2nd 66k
3rd 44k
4th 17k
5th 14k
6th 13k
7th 12k
8th 10k
9th 9k
10th 8k
To clean it up alittle bit
1st 100k
2nd 66k
3rd 44k
4th 18k
5th 16k
6th 14k
7th 12k
8th 10k
9th 9k
10th 8k
That looks really good!
One quality video after another... you guys are spoiling us.
Awesome, been waiting for this video!
Great show you two, very interesting! Keep up the good work.
I just randomly found your channel a very good channel and totally subscribing to it.
Loving these daily episodes. Top notch quality. Also, looking good Loz. A Loz in physical shape is scary looking.
It’s much much better than I assumed, which is great, definitely going in the right direction over the last few years. Good to see lower places actually being worth going to shows for the athletes, I do agree with the placing need to be more encouraging so athletes go full pelt for it! Great video been wanting to know the prize money for a while
Uncleloz am the 1st 1 to comment just here in Africa Tanzania training tobe a future strong man after iron biby and Chris ver linde
🤑🤑🤑 money money money. All I know is they all deserve more !!!
100% as does the best scorer in the game
@@BigLozOfficial I’d love to see it at the levels the PDC pay eventually. But that was a slower burner so maybe in another 5-10 years
Great video. I love the sport and wish the atheletes made more money. My gripe is not with the competitors or officials, but the marketing and promoting. In 2011, the WSM competed in Charlotte, NC. This is less than 15 miles from my house. There was zero media or promotional coverage about the event. I would have gladly paid for tickets for my family to see the event! You can imagine my shock when the event was televised in December, and I realized that I missed the opportunity to see the event. I appreciate that these athletes do it mostly for the love of the sport (something missing in most sports today); but I firmly believe that more promotion and monetization would lead to having more money to pay the athletes.
Only 75k seems very low considering how much it costs yearly on equipment protein travel on getting to all the shows etc can see how many of these strong men still have a day job
With regards to travel, all of the promotors we talk about in this video pay for travel, hotels and food for the athletes while they’re away 👍🏼
All the food? So thats another $20.000
Thats awesome now i see why the prize money so low guys eat their weight in gold 😂😂
@@BigLozOfficial paying for flights and hotels must be a huge incentive for athletes. At least if you finish last you don’t lose money. I know it won’t be revealed but how much to the “celebrity” ex strongmen get paid? How much does Eddie get to do his WSM duties and Giants Live appearances?
I honestly have no idea 😂
I think I’ve seen all these figures on various sites at some point but it’s really interesting to see them next to each other and to have the extra insight into how the prize pots have grown. It wouldn’t have occurred to me that Giants Live pay the most per year but of course it makes sense when you think about it.
Just a comment to recognise how good you've both gotten at talking to camera. Good eye contact with the audience at a natural pace; bringing us into the conversation ;)
Thanks, we appreciate it!
Very Interesting to get this insight!
you can see why most strongmen don't quit their day job, and why guys like Novikov compete in so many shows.
Thanks for the explaination, I will hope this sport grows and grows - just please do not get too greedy like the bigger sports. Everyone in strongman seems to be down to earth and respects the fans. Cheers!
Yeah we don't want the premier league football culture (not likely I admit).
You can definitely see why the Stoltmans see little value in breaking their bodies for some of these smaller shows. They probably EACH make 5-figures in merch, youtube revenue, and sponsorships in a month.
You guys are the best of covering the strong man sport
The intro's are getting really good 😂😂😂👌
Great content
Bit of a Taboo subject but I would love to hear about Big Loz's PED cycles when he was competing in Strongman, it's becoming more snd more acceptable now for athletes to talk about this particular subject without people judging them, instead they gain respect for being honest.
I also very much like the idea of everyone at the comp at the very least recouping their costs for attending.
Many, the majority in fact, of athletes and martial artists don't do it as a living. Their day jobs support that passion. There are plenty of Olympic athletes that have to do fundraising and basically beg for money, just to go to the Olympics. It's not until you get to the ultra elite that most athletes can sustain themselves via their athletic endeavors.
Bear in mind that their travel expenses are covered by the organisation. Simply being there is not costing most of them money (other than lost revenue if they're away from a day job).
So it’s a perfect time to get into the sport. Good to know. 😁👍🏼
I definitely think an even spread is much healthier for the sport. Winning 60k vs 75k is a much smaller difference than 5k vs 20k and it may mean that athletes that have future potential can get an extra boost and maybe quit their job or have more freedom to persue strongman
Assuming you mean feels like a smaller difference unless you have questionable math skills 🧐
@@lenisemicolon yeah, all I was trying to say was 15k may mean more to someone if it triples their prize than if it just adds a bit on top
I thought Brian did a pretty good job at spreading the money
Really interesting vid.
Absolutely agree the money needs to be spread out better to the lower placings. Definitely incentivise 1st / top 3. But that’s what will really help grow the sport and increase strength in depth (no pun intended!) if more athletes can start earning enough so they can go full time or at least part time - with the addition of sponsors and brand marketing etc too.
I like the way a lot of the promoters like Brian Shaw, Rogue and Clash are encouraging fans to sign up to live streams with guarantees that it will go towards the athletes payouts. I’d probably watch them anyway but I’d pay more know that than if it was only going to the promoters!
Even before I watch - it's not enough imo. But good to see the money is going up, in the last few years.
Anyone knows what Žydrunas did with all those Hummers?
Took them with his luggage to Lithuania.
He donated the tyres to the Shaw Classic.
Hey Loz, could we get a video on the best beards in Strongman?
Starting with the women.
@@RubbishGimpy lol. Soon enough, we'll get bearded women with how much test is running through the women's divisions nowadays.
They're almost making Big Loz money now
I imagine a lot of the prize money barely covers the food bills, supplements and coaches etc.
Don't forget big Loz brand the best out there👍
No wonder strongmen have RUclips channels
And Instagrams.
What I learned is that I need to start practicing at darts.
Now it makes sense why some athletes want to turn up and "compete" regardless if they're prepped or not...
i agree that that price should be spread out more for more people get money and top 3 still get good share
Ronnie O’Sullivan said the same about snooker in honouring the lower places.
I love you so much u guys
Loz telling the tax man how much Tom won has got Tom sweating😂
God, I hope not 😂😂
seen the size of boris krcmar on the darts loz he is massive be a good strong man 100%
I'm glad to see the sport gaining popularity and the athletes getting rewarded for it. I'd love to see WSM and the Arnold Classic match the prize money for the two biggest bodybuilding shows. Bodybuilding is also a niche sport, but it pays SO MUCH more than strongman.
Mr Olympia:
1st place = $400,000
2nd place = $150,000
3rd place = $100,000
Arnold Classic:
1st place = $200,000
2nd place = $120,000
3rd place = $70,000
It is too bad that good health does not earn a good living.
But it is true! I am a coach and you’re absolutely right, marketing is the key. My heart is an nutrition and health. Seems as though people don’t care about that. Entertainment is what people want.
I agree as people that do strong man female or male do not always cover their costs in travel and where they stay for turning up competing and getting injured.
I'm glad that Licis got that much money. The guy could not compete for what? 18 months? I was super happy that he won.
I'd be happy to see money skimmed of the top of the winners prize and filtered to the bottom places. If £2000 is an average jobs monthly wage in the UK then this should be the starting place of last position upwards. Rogues winner prize money is pretty extensive I think. 50-80k is good enough winners money, increase lower places money. At some point top class strongmen will only do one comp a year because their win paid out enough.
How does the medical situation work when strongmen get injured. Is it all privately paid for? In UK we have the NHS, USA its medical insurance. I know competitions provide medical funding but what if you get injured training at home. Is this additional costs? I'm starting to wonder how Loz actually survived doing strongman.
It’s great to see competitions that pay all athletes a decent amount. However, I do think having a disproportionately higher amount being paid to the podium positions can help athletes push that bit harder and put on a better performance.
Tom S. is now minted. He could retire now, but he has decided to chill a bit and then cherry pick what he will enter. Very wise. Sponsorship is also more worthwhile.
If there’s going to be a big gap between 1st & 2nd in pay, then shouldn’t there also be a bigger gap in points earned for winning an event in each competition?
And SCL 😂😂😂
Are the SCL a standard amount or do they vary from show to show?
i see both sides ...when the money is split too far across the board everyone gets a payday whether they are in shape or not and you get some athletes just turning up when they perhaps shouldnt or didnt plan to do well ....and all the money going to the podium means the best guys pull ahead and the "journeymen" are living on scraps struggling to be professionals
Brian is at LEAST a millionaire by now, dude has incredible marketing 😂
17 million dollar net worth.
@@RubbishGimpy Estimated...I would guess a lot more. Smart people with money know how to make sure people don't know exactly what they have, lol.
Driving around in a $90k Shelby truck. You don't have to worry about Brian.
Brian is a better businessman than strongman, and that's not an insult! Guy has crazy drive
curious to see a new update for this. mitch hooper would have fared pretty well. novikov again would have done really well for himself.
You’ve got to be able not only to make a living, but to be motivated. After all, it’s a battle for glory. As the overall fan base increases, prizes will increase as revenue goes up. It’s in everyone’s best interests to recruit fans to the sport. Fans of Eddie will watch strongman. The community owes Eddie. Big names should get big prizes. Then your fame earns you extra bucks too. Which you spend on being more famous, which attracts fans to the sport. Money is power. What else is there to compete for?
That’s what I reckon anyway 🤣
wow shaw classic has only been around for 3 years and already giving out more than giants live...thats nice for the future
To be fair to Giants Live, they pay out half a million in a year across their multiple competitions.
You have to remember giants live does 4-5 shows a year. If they did 1 show a year. First place can be 150k easily or drop a bit kn first place and balance to all athletes etc. Same for the world records
@@Kamyen316 I don't think that would be true. You earn $ based on ticket sales, livestream, sponsors... you cant condense all events into a single event.
@@syzygycoffee I get what your saying. Just trying to explain to him that a shaw classic does offer more from 1 show over giants. But giants puts out 4+ events a year with prize money. If you podium 1st/2nd all year in giants. You'll earn more than almost every show
Giants Live have the opportunity to earn more money with multiple shows through social media, ticket sales, livestream etc. Their operation also costs a lot more to run with multiple arena bookings, hotels, flights and food for 10+ athletes 6 times a year. It’s really hard to compare a once a year show to someone running 6 shows a year. Likewise with champions league who’ll be paying less prize money but they’re running 16 competitions a year.
I see a lot of commenters saying to take money from the top and filter throughout.
But I'd rather see a push to get even more money from sponsors given as prize.
Lee Haney won the Mr Olympia title and earned $50,000 in... 1985!
(The winner in 2020 took home $400,000)
That money came from sponsors. The nutrition companies, the equipment company's. Which has grown so much since then.
--But most of the sponsorship monies still gets spent on bodybuilders.
How much goes to Powerlifters? Probably very little.
Strongman as a brand needs a bigger way to identify itself.
That would begin with making a federation and having consistency in events.
But that would also cripple the "sport" by limiting expansion in events.
But anyhow.
Good to see current payouts increasing. If not at a snails pace.
These amounts dramatically favour the Eastern Europeans, you could win everything in one year and it's still not a massive amount of money for a Brit or a Yank, but for a Lithuanian or Ukrainian it's mega bucks.
yes, especially with travel and food taken care of by the promoters!
If I were to become a pro strongman I would probably move to Georgia and learn the language. They love Americans there and I could keep training at altitude for those moving events and the Shaw Classic. Plus who wouldn't wanna train/hang out with Janashia?
What's your point? This is literally the case for everything. Cost of living differs all around the world, what a surprise
@@maartenn2217 Are you really that thick? I guess you must be 🤣🤣🤣
Prize money minimum should be able to cover costs and a bit of take home for last place. Seems like most of these shows do that. Which is great
What do the competitions cover regarding travel, hotel, and meal costs?
The promotors cover all of those costs.
I think, the top price should be at least double as the second place, I want the guys to really push themselves for my entertainment, but after that I agree that a more even payment is probably the best approach.
The revenue generated by the sport is laughably tiny in general. Distributing it is the least of our concerns.
I'm always baffled whenever I see the corn hole championship on ESPN but they'll never air a WSM competition.
Hardly surprising novikov and licis are at the top.
First place for any competition should be a lot higher overall than the rest of the placings
I dont get how Luke only got 45.
According to your list he got 20k from Arnold's and 2 x Giants live wins at 30k
Plus other shows etc
Shaw does it right and almost has as much prize money as the Arnold did this year, which is crazy for such a young show
If you tear a bicep do they cover it
It's great that there's so many strongman federations paying a lot but I still think the WSM needs to be THE competition that the best guys will definitely focus on, otherwise winning it becomes meaningless. Imagine if France and Brazil just didn't show up to the FIFA World Cup! I would hate to see strongman become a sport with a million confusing federations like boxing or (god forbid) powerlifting. Even from when there was the IFSA / WSM divide we now have the debate around whether Z or Vasyl could have got extra WSM titles etc.
RUclips plays a big part of the rise in prizemoney
Half a mil for the darts!? No wonder it's so much harder to get tickets than I'd anticipated!
How much do you get just for going to worlds?
Hey Loz , i have just helped out on running England's U105kg and UK's U105kg , Chris from my Gym won both and never got a penny just a trophy and T-shrt , got an inv to OSG but going to cost him £4000 to go there
That sucks. Is there anything the gym/a sponsor can do to help him out? I know OSG have like a hundred athletes there so I get that it's not possible to pay travel and accommodation for all of them and still afford to put on a show.
With the England's/UKs under 105s, what were the shows like? Car parks/warehouses, or more of a dedicated event with a crowd? I know money can't go up unless there are more eyeballs, so curious what goes on with some of the smaller/regional shows.
@@paddathehutt was held in a market square on a sunday, decent crowd, but what get me is weight creeping up to opens now 160kg won axle press, 330kg frame , 450kg yoke , deadlift ladder up to 350kg , 140kg hussafel into 200kg dinnie stones , pound for pound 105's crush opens
Curious when you said brians money goes back to the pool. Does he then divide it across the other 14 guys as like a performance bonus?
Brian has a video on it
👍
Actually surprised to see Luke Stoltman that high up the list. Felt like he didn't really place that well other than the Arnold classic.
It may be personal but I'd be interested to know what mitch hooper has made his first year on the international scene (so far)
Guessing, around 100k.
20k from Giants Live (two 2nd places), 23.5k from 3rd at Shaw Classic and probably a few thousand for coming 8th at WSM, so probably about 50k so far. Still has a few more comps to come...
*runs to buy a dartboard*
How much support is given to people simply turning up. If you spend $1000 on flight and accomodation for example. Do the big comp's help with that or is that down to having some private sponsorship deals.
The promotors that we talked about in the video pay for flights, hotels, transfers and meals. The only potential loss for the pro strongmen is loss of earnings for time away from work if they’re still in employment.
The answer is not enough especially for the weight classes
the lower weight classes are still really new and super niche.
What about SCL?
About $100 lol
The real question is how much does Collin Bryce earn?
$250,000 is a lot of Black Forest ham and macaroni cheese...
Rogue is making Strongman more mainstream. their coverage (and commentary) are great. love youtube feeds are awesome and the best access for us fans. The efforts of Rogue will hopefully bring more money for competitors.
So 1st place pretty much cover meals for the year only.
I think the people saying the winner deserves disproportionality higher money because that encourages a better show know nothing about motivation, but maybe I am wrong. Loz, in your direct experience, did a disproportionate winner's prize motivate you, demotivate you, or have no effect?
Just a guess on my part but I can't help but feel winning world's strongest man is something worth more than just money alone.
Absolutely. Even though I relied on it, prize money was never a factor in what make me push hard to win an event or competition. I was a competitive athlete and I wanted to win EVERYTHING 😂 even if it was just a plastic trophy.
Why dollars when giants live is in the Uk ?
USD you s the global currency so everyone pays I’m with it
75k for the WSM is ridiculous 😔
Am a good deadlifter increasing day by day
So are the more proactive serial killers.
Liz….. where is the 50 note to cool u down lol
Man the 4th guy in the sport winning just 54k is laughable, on the wrong way. This is such a great sport and it would be better for everyone if the top 20~30 guys would make a generous living
Should be 1milion like why in this entire world 🌎 not 1 rich person would donate 1milion to see the strongest person successful placed 👍 like in what reality is this sport not number 1 lol. My opinion as I'm a lifetime Dragon ball lover and strength 💪 is most impressive to me by far. 💯 come on rich people someone out their make this sport number one. Millions of people have 1 billion dollars 💸 and none care about this blows my mind 😑 😐 😒
For the guys with sponsors I assume they have a good paycheck on top of what ever they win
Not enough in real time, should be much more.