Nothing wrong with having boundaries and leaving someone who doesn't fit within them. It IS controlling. There's nothing wrong with maintaining control of what type of relationship you're in. Where dude went wrong was trying to "teach" her all that through text.
@@TDashem he isn't fat anymore he started Brazilian JJ and got in great shape and can strangle dudes now. But still is worried about his girl being around dudes. Insecure chubby kid at heart
I'M with JONAH HILL ON THIS ONE. He did the right thing. Men need to set boundaries especially the men who have a LOT to Lose. She belongs to the Streets.
The issue is that the girl is a surfer so him expecting all these changes as soon as he got with her is just simply ridiculous. That’s like dating a stripper and asking her to suddenly act like a nun
Those aren't boundaries. You're talking about control. Your boundaries are for YOU. Stop perverting definitions because you're insecure. Boundaries mean having discipline for what YOU are willing to tolerate in life. That does not mean enforcing discipline on those around you. You sound nuts.
@@jay_1212no. She *AGREED* to his standards, which was why he got into a relationship with her, only for her to have lied and not kept her word about how she behaves, then releases messages aftereards to try and make him look bad. She's the controlling, manipulative one.
Let’s be clear here…she is an EX-Girlfriend. Again….she posted his texts AFTER they broke up. This is what happens when women become bitter. Nothing to see here..
A few points. If Jonah Hill looked like Chris Hemsworth this would be a completely different conversation, many are against him primarily because he is considered unattractive. If the genders were reversed, a woman would be praised for asserting and respecting herself as well as establishing her autonomy. In addition, hit dogs will holler, people upset by this are probably doing this to someone right now or believe that men, mainly unattractive men, do not have the right to establish anything with an attractive woman and should consider themselves lucky to be in their presence.
If Jonah Hill looked like Chris Hemsworth this would be 100 times worse because they'd have an added reason to hate him on top of the fuckery in those texts and if he was a woman she would be considered a nut. The only difference is if a man would've put these texts out he would be considered soft.. Let's call a spade a spade that man is out of his mind. He expects another human being to alter the way they go about their profession and cut people off just to be around him. This man is a nut.
Why date a woman who is a certain way & then ask her to change her whole life? If that’s what he wants, he should be upfront instead of having several arguments trying to force her to change.
@@Skywalker721 Yeah that's one way to look at it but it's clear they're not together. She posted the text messages which means he told her and she didn't like it.
Absolutely nothing wrong with what he said. He said I want a woman who does xyz if you don’t wanna be that person then I wish you the best. We are allowed to have preferences
@@ANTIStraussianBecause he wants to date a model who doesn’t do all that, it’s literally as simple as that. He communicated what he doesn’t like & gave her an option. What’s the issue?
@ANTIStraussian you know he rich as fuck basically he told her you don't need to do that if you my woman and if you do want to do that have a nice life.
@@jp-lz6el Right, but she was doing all that BEFORE he started dating her. He's a doof. That's like walking into a McDonalds and being mad that they serve so many McNuggets.
@@jp-lz6el bro surfing is literally a lifestyle to these Cali white folks, it's not a hobby. They build their entire lives around surfing. Working September to may just to take the summer off and rent a house near a beach with 6 other people to surf 7 days a week. Then you gonna tell a surfer Instgram model don't model and don't surf with other dudes. BRO go to your churches single night if you don't want your bitxh surfing and modeling
For those who think Jonah is in the wrong y'all the problem with this world. Jonah was breaking up as diplomatically as he could, she wanted to be with him but did not want to live by the principles he laid down, she could have easily call it quits she wouldn't so he did. I would a just changed the locks. And she only dropped the text because his new woman dropped a baby.
Jonah is nuts but he is open and honest about it. And I dont see a problem with it. This woman might not like his crazy but the next woman might. He gave her a choice and let her walk. Theres not a problem here.
I think the ex went along with this to "get" him then slowly reverted back and that's his issue. He seems pretty clear in his expectations so they weren't "sprung" on her out of nowhere. And to only post them AFTER he has a new baby seems very calculated as well. 🤷🏾♀️
He said "recent actions " in those messages ...i think she cheated and he said all the things men say when they get cheated on aside from something violent
I'm not mad at Mr Hill. He has boundaries, granted his Boundaries come with insecurities. It's his boundaries. Also, I'm not upset at a 25YO woman not respecting those boundaries. They were just in two different places. That's all
“But your dating a surfer “ and now he’s not and has a child. Where’s his credit for possibly growing from the situation and seeing he doesn’t want that type of woman? Text can be read out of text, but either way she leaked them way after their breakup 🤦🏿♂️
I see nothing wrong with what he said, she doesnt have to be with him at all, if you have a problem then its you, he literally giving her a out, just cuz you dont like how he worded it doesnt mean hes wrong, she could have just left the nigga alone but again she put it out there for the world to know, seeking attention
This comment section (like most comment sections on this topic) is confused. He is NOT setting boundaries instead what he IS doing is creating a STANDARD. Boundaries are personal and have nothing to do with controlling another persons freedom or autonomy. He is not setting boundaries. He is controlling her behavior. You set boundaries on things you CAN control. Boundaries are very personal. Yes or no you can't talk to me this way, or yes or no can you use/touch my things. You've crossed over into being controlling the moment you tell me what I can and can't do with my own autonomy over my own life. This is crazy manipulative and I hope she's able to see and trust that this is indeed, toxic behavior. Now when we talk about standards, that's something completely different. Again, like boundaries, standards are also personal. She cannot control his standards nor should she try to control the fact that she doesn't meet his standards. And THATS OKAY! We’re not always going to meet someone’s standards and that’s where self respect comes in. Respect yourself enough to understand that you don’t have to change or mold yourself to fit someone’s standards and instead find someone’s who’s standards match who you are. Clearly they’re not a good fit. Boundaries are healthy and it is VERY important to understand the difference between boundaries and standards.
Exactly. I mean look at Joe his whole life has been for the streets , people give him credit for being for the streets just as bad as a lot of these industry women
And we know BM do poorly setting firm boundaries. That’s one reason why BW be out of pocket because there are no consequences. Average White dudes will fire a bish quick.
Jonah tried to take a woman who is for the streets & turn her into a wife. That’s goofy behavior. She’s already for the streets & doesn’t want to change for him. Men who do things like this get played for their money in a divorce.
S/O TO JONAH! people forget he got a Netflix series with him sitting down with his therapist and u can clearly see it working through then text message. He know what he wants and if the person he’s with nothing giving him that. Then he moves on. That’s great. So many people put up with people BS in a relationship when u don’t have to. Stop settling for the average and find what u really want in your man or woman. Simple. Too many simps in this world letting the woman do whatever to them and then they wonder why they on suicide watch because they with a woman that drives them crazy.
What’s wrong with “rules” though? He gave the relationship a shot , realized it wasn’t for him . He let her know and if she didn’t like anything that was said then they go there separate ways respectfully?
Two things. Jonah was wrong for projecting his insecurities on that woman and trying to change her. He values himself as less than other men so he expects his woman would do the same. If he really had "boundaries" he would have never considered that woman in the first place. He wanted to exert control to make himself feel powerful. She was wrong in accepting that BS. She thought she could be on the pathway to marrying a millionaire and chose his money over her own sense of self. She knew what he was asking for was completely unreasonable but she did it anyway and that's her fault.
Some women only want men to be open and honest with them as long as it aligns with their own desires. As soon as honesty means behavioral change, some run. 🤷🏾♀️
Everyone forgetting that they been broken up for over a year damn near two years and she’s posting private messages. She seems bitter he moved on and has a kid.
I get the confusion but yes they can be boundaries. Relationship boundaries refer to the emotional, physical, and psychological limits or guidelines that individuals establish within a relationship. These boundaries define what is acceptable and appropriate in terms of behaviors, interactions, and expectations between partners or individuals involved in the relationship. Boundaries help establish a sense of personal autonomy, respect, and safety, ensuring that each person's needs, values, and limits are acknowledged and honored within the relationship. They serve as guidelines for maintaining healthy dynamics, promoting open communication, and preventing the violation of personal boundaries. Also to be honest I get the difficulty with addressing this but if you simply put Muslim or Amish in front of it and many groups follow this same behavior and no one bats an eye. Not for me but the nuance is you dont need to validate your boundary behind a religion for it to be a boundary even if we disagree with the behavior.
Are you a licensed therapist or psychologist? From what I’ve read and heard from therapists and psychologists, they say boundaries guide your own behavior and not the behavior of someone else.
@@jayyy735 your conflating personal boundary with relationship boundary - but lets take your statement at face value - is cheating a boundary ? its not you or what about religion ? The defined acceptable behavior of a relationship is a boundary. Furthermore its still represents you because its your relationship. Again it prevents the violation of personal boundaries.
Sounds like boundaries to me. He didnt like things she was doing. He told her that he didnt like those things. When she contiuned to do those things, he left her. I don't see a problem. Especially not for her to bring it up years later right after he just had a baby.
@@ANTIStraussian What she surfs in vs models in are two completely different things. You don't see how being half naked around random dudes could be bad for a relationship? Especially if this has been a problem for them before (which it seems to have been from the messages). You don't understand how bad friends can influence your relationship? You don't see the lack of logic behind dating a rich and extremely famous guy (who pays for everything in your life) and trying to defend your "career". Maybe he is controlling, but so what. She seems to be extremely manipulative to wait this long to "expose" him.
@@CJ-ct2mu she models with surf boards on the beach with surf related brands. So yeah bikinis and shorts and tank tops. She isn't a snowboard model covered head to toe like an arab chick
Look at these niggas!!!? They look like or act like they got pussy before money!? Yn it’s either they f&f or totally simp when they didn’t and they on the simp side. Glad I didn’t have that problem.
Your boundaries are not for me to change my career decisions, Jonah knew the line of work she was in which is a primarily make dominant one. So, to ask her to stop roaming in that space is pretty wild especially since it’s her livelihood.
I will say when Jonah was talking about boundaryless friendships, and continuing to be friends with people who are in unstable places in life he was starting to cook. He did have some valid points but his behavior is controlling. I guess it really just comes down to if you're with the right person can you accept the level and type of control that comes with the relationship.
He shouldn’t have dated her if he didn’t like what she was doing in the beginning. And she shouldn’t have dated him if she felt like he was going to change her. There you go.
I didn't hear him say anything wrong. He's the more famous person in the situation she's running around with hoes and it sounds like still playing little sex games with her male "friends" at the very least flirting. When you surf you're in a bodysuit that largely covers you up. If you then start modeling nude or almost nude in just a thong I could see where he says I didn't sign up for this. Can't have your girlfriend out in the world making you week because she's acting loose. She felt that was too much control so he cut her loose. Also in my personal opinion it sounds like she was playing dumb and he just got tired of that s***.
People who shame Jonah for his safe boundaries are crazy. If you’ve ever been in a “bad relationship” of any kind your going to set boundaries for the next and the next etc.
First , no one knows what happened in that relationship for him to ask for those " boundaries". Sounds like ol girl friends are bad influences on her. Also, these fellas just last week told Keke BD to hold the backseat but not in this scenario? Jester settings
we are in the woke era and in some cases extremely woke. women are told that they are princesses by their dumb fathers from the beginning of time and that the world is their oysters and people are surprised that they are the way they are , why? you got to be delicate with them , pamper them, work hard to provide for them, risk your own life for them, please them, and then after all of that, society now tells you that you are equal to them, but at the same time, be delicate and thoughtful to them... every woman I see today are dresses like they are some cheap whore and maybe thats an american and european thing but non the less , even 3 year old start dressing like a street hooker at that age and again, we are surprised , why?!!! when I was growing up, there was a dress code for the baby, the child, the teen, the adults and the elderly. today, everyone wants to be 21 to include the 3 year old the parents dresses like a cheap street hooker. the grandma is in the same clothing acting like she is 21 instead of 81 and the cycle continues
Why would Jonah try to wife her in the first place? He thought she would change for him just like delusion women think men will change. Goofy my boy. 😂
It’s literally her profession. The photos have been there they look like regular surfing pics I would see from women everywhere. She isn’t acting flirtatious or anything. So in this case the word “boundaries” are camouflaged as control tactics. Just say you’re jealous and go back to therapy.
read between the lines bro, surf culture being with men, bitch was sleeping around with the surf dudes and still wanted the man to be cool with it. Yes he met her that way, so what. If you meat a stripper who hustle on the side and now you talking marriage you cool with her still hustling?
I don’t see a problem with Jonah Hill stating his preferences. BUT it is kind of odd that he was chasing a surfing model and then got mad about her living that lifestyle, but that’s why he gave her the option so overall I don’t see why this had to go to social media
horrible take from the whole pod ... he started off the text with plain and simple so that tells you that there was something they were talking about prior he even spoke about his trust was broken because of these things and the only way to move forward is to swap some things she is doing... Sounds to me that she was being too friendly with her male friends, the homegirls she was hanging with are prolly all single and go too hard , she is wearing skimpy swimsuit to surf with her booty out around said men when she can easily wear a body suit.. he broke up with her and moved on and she releases text from over 2 years ago for what? he ain't stuntin her and has a new girl that fits his mold and had his seed the ex is jealous and just trying to put dirt on his name ... How many women would want or allow their men to do these same things before or after cheating? I know for a fact its nun
This should have started by ssying shorty didnt say none or this until after Jonah Hill had moved on and was in a healthy relationship for over a year, his new girlfriend had a child and it was praised online
I respect Jonah if I’m with you and I have deal breakers at least compromise or try to do things in a different light and respect me and there’s nothing wrong with that
Ladies and gentlemen, this is what immasculated American men look like and why feminism rules the country. You got rich men saying that a man can't set rules for his woman. Making him look crazy for not wanting his girl to post bikini picks.
End of the day, I've seen gents echo the same sentiments as Jonah, but they didn't express it to their partners in fear that they will breakup and leave. Jonah did what most won't do. Most men aren't like Joe. He's podding. He has a girl who is good to him and has money to afford to not be stressed. Most of us don't have that. Jonas chose to eliminate any element that may cause him stress. What's wrong with that
Dont get with someone who is a stripper if you want them to stop stripping once you are together. There are plenty of women you can get with that arent strippers
he not wrong at all...women think they can do what they want to do in a relationship.....that dont make sense....men stay single...He not asking from nothing crazy.
Accept people for who they are. Don’t try to change people. If you feel they aren’t fitting the criteria. Leave immediately! You will be doing yourself and the other persons disservice. Protect your peace.
Here’s my take.. them aint boundaries, those are insecurities and it all boils down to him being fat the majority of his life and not having the hot girlfriend.
Yall missing the point. He wanted her to become a stay at home stepford wife and she couldn't do it. She salty cause she fumbled the bag. She would have been set for life. She thought he was trying to control. All he wanted was for her to act right so he can a make her wife and a mother. No she watching some one else live the life she thought was going to be her. Thats why she posted these. Reality just backhanded in the face. Hope them big surfer checks keep coming, cause she aint gone be able to pull another celebrity!
Been there. Ex wife did the same. Except in my case it was regarding a “friend” that she had previously been with before. Before marriage I said me or him. She broke down crying like a family member died. Her, her family, her friends, he’ll even some of my family and friends called me insecure…Guess who she cheated on me with. When I divorced her I nearly called the police for a health and welfare check(we were separated). I sincerely thought she was suicidal. She begged and pleaded, tried to leverage other people to talk to me…funny enough in the end she got served my divorce paperwork by our former pastors who she was previously closer to. They encouraged me to divorced her lol.
Y'all nasty af for acting like if he called then deal breakers that it would have been met with any less boots on his neck.... the thing that made this bad was any critique on a woman's behavior or actions.... ask India Arie .... she didn't even really critique the women... just the time and place that the actions occurred... and they cooked her ass up....
8:33 that was...amazing. I kept asking myself, yo why would she wanna leak these texts, it's not giving what she think- AND BAM Jonah started going completely off the rails and it just made me cheer that lass on for exposing his hypocritical faux spiritual little man syndrome HAVIN ass
I love how she posted this right when Jonas kid was born, and he got engaged, like that chick off her rocker. I get how it can come across, but he literally said 'then I'm not the partner for you', that is your out, be free! Don't complain years later and make it seem bigger than it actually is. Sweetheart, you look just as crazy as he does.
No she was in the wrong the moment she posted the text. Him presenting his boundaries and her choosing to leave are perfectly reasonable. But to post those text to garner public sympathy a year plus after the breakup helps illuminate his fears about her decision making.
I don't want to sound rude but they look like father and daughter... Maybe as a 40 year, he should date modern women in their 20s since they have a different mentality Maybe 40 and 25 are in 2 different worlds. I'd stick to people close to my age
Nothing wrong with having boundaries and leaving someone who doesn't fit within them. It IS controlling. There's nothing wrong with maintaining control of what type of relationship you're in. Where dude went wrong was trying to "teach" her all that through text.
he was politely explaining why he's kicking her to the curb...
@@konanoobiemaster cuz he insecure because everyone bullied him for being the fat kid in Hollywood
No point in explaining just leave.
@@ANTIStraussianThat’s fat shaming isn’t it? So he’s just being brave now and speaking “his truth”. Very courageous.
@@TDashem he isn't fat anymore he started Brazilian JJ and got in great shape and can strangle dudes now. But still is worried about his girl being around dudes. Insecure chubby kid at heart
I'M with JONAH HILL ON THIS ONE. He did the right thing. Men need to set boundaries especially the men who have a LOT to Lose. She belongs to the Streets.
The issue is that the girl is a surfer so him expecting all these changes as soon as he got with her is just simply ridiculous. That’s like dating a stripper and asking her to suddenly act like a nun
Those aren't boundaries. You're talking about control. Your boundaries are for YOU. Stop perverting definitions because you're insecure. Boundaries mean having discipline for what YOU are willing to tolerate in life. That does not mean enforcing discipline on those around you. You sound nuts.
@@jay_1212 Then she aint ready for a relationship lol, people keep saying this like you did that when you were single.
@@jay_1212no. She *AGREED* to his standards, which was why he got into a relationship with her, only for her to have lied and not kept her word about how she behaves, then releases messages aftereards to try and make him look bad. She's the controlling, manipulative one.
facts
Mel: 'what does his partner do for a living?"
Joe: "SHE DON'T SURF & MODEL I'LL TELL YOU THAT" 😂😂😂
Let’s be clear here…she is an EX-Girlfriend.
Again….she posted his texts AFTER they broke up. This is what happens when women become bitter.
Nothing to see here..
Let me guess they missed that whole point. It wouldn’t surprise me.
@@JayPXPLmao yes indeed
He also just recently be engaged and a father.....
Two toxic people in a relationship that never made sense to begin with.
A few points. If Jonah Hill looked like Chris Hemsworth this would be a completely different conversation, many are against him primarily because he is considered unattractive. If the genders were reversed, a woman would be praised for asserting and respecting herself as well as establishing her autonomy. In addition, hit dogs will holler, people upset by this are probably doing this to someone right now or believe that men, mainly unattractive men, do not have the right to establish anything with an attractive woman and should consider themselves lucky to be in their presence.
Exactly….on all counts
BIG MF FACTS THANK YOU
You podding now.
If Jonah Hill looked like Chris Hemsworth this would be 100 times worse because they'd have an added reason to hate him on top of the fuckery in those texts and if he was a woman she would be considered a nut. The only difference is if a man would've put these texts out he would be considered soft.. Let's call a spade a spade that man is out of his mind. He expects another human being to alter the way they go about their profession and cut people off just to be around him. This man is a nut.
@@TwoH.QNo It's insane on all counts.
I'm with Jonah even though his wording is off he's being upfront with his deal breakers. Can't do anything but respect it.
Why date a woman who is a certain way & then ask her to change her whole life? If that’s what he wants, he should be upfront instead of having several arguments trying to force her to change.
@@Skywalker721 Yeah that's one way to look at it but it's clear they're not together. She posted the text messages which means he told her and she didn't like it.
@@bcollins5011 they were both toxic at the time & tried to force the other person to fold. 😂
Absolutely nothing wrong with what he said. He said I want a woman who does xyz if you don’t wanna be that person then I wish you the best. We are allowed to have preferences
why would you date a model suffer chick if you didnt want her to do all that stuff lol
@@ANTIStraussianBecause he wants to date a model who doesn’t do all that, it’s literally as simple as that. He communicated what he doesn’t like & gave her an option. What’s the issue?
@ANTIStraussian you know he rich as fuck basically he told her you don't need to do that if you my woman and if you do want to do that have a nice life.
@@jp-lz6el Right, but she was doing all that BEFORE he started dating her. He's a doof.
That's like walking into a McDonalds and being mad that they serve so many McNuggets.
@@jp-lz6el bro surfing is literally a lifestyle to these Cali white folks, it's not a hobby. They build their entire lives around surfing. Working September to may just to take the summer off and rent a house near a beach with 6 other people to surf 7 days a week.
Then you gonna tell a surfer Instgram model don't model and don't surf with other dudes.
BRO go to your churches single night if you don't want your bitxh surfing and modeling
He did absolutely nothing wrong, he just left the relationship. Didn’t bash her, didn’t bad mouth her and it still wasnt enough.
For those who think Jonah is in the wrong y'all the problem with this world. Jonah was breaking up as diplomatically as he could, she wanted to be with him but did not want to live by the principles he laid down, she could have easily call it quits she wouldn't so he did. I would a just changed the locks. And she only dropped the text because his new woman dropped a baby.
You hit it right on the head broski 💯💯
Yall are lost.
Talk that talk melvin
Doing all that through text is goofy af. What grown man gets that deep with his girl instead of talking in person or on the phone? Foh 😂
Jonah is nuts but he is open and honest about it. And I dont see a problem with it. This woman might not like his crazy but the next woman might. He gave her a choice and let her walk. Theres not a problem here.
I think the ex went along with this to "get" him then slowly reverted back and that's his issue. He seems pretty clear in his expectations so they weren't "sprung" on her out of nowhere. And to only post them AFTER he has a new baby seems very calculated as well. 🤷🏾♀️
Women do this a lot
Nasty work.
Jealousy, just shows herself in a negative light.
He said "recent actions " in those messages ...i think she cheated and he said all the things men say when they get cheated on aside from something violent
I'm not mad at Mr Hill. He has boundaries, granted his Boundaries come with insecurities. It's his boundaries. Also, I'm not upset at a 25YO woman not respecting those boundaries. They were just in two different places. That's all
“But your dating a surfer “ and now he’s not and has a child. Where’s his credit for possibly growing from the situation and seeing he doesn’t want that type of woman? Text can be read out of text, but either way she leaked them way after their breakup 🤦🏿♂️
I don't see nothing wrong with how Jonah Hill communicated, how about she moves on instead of trying to ruin a happy union
I see nothing wrong with what he said, she doesnt have to be with him at all, if you have a problem then its you, he literally giving her a out, just cuz you dont like how he worded it doesnt mean hes wrong, she could have just left the nigga alone but again she put it out there for the world to know, seeking attention
Lmaoo facts and it’s almost seems like she’s proving him right about how she is fr
This right here
why would you date a model suffer chick if you didnt want her to do all that stuff lol
find a girl at church
@@ANTIStraussian facts hit that hoe and clear it
@@ANTIStraussianwhy would you complain about all these boundaries but still date the nigga?
Joe was the poster child for manipulating women using college level vocabulary and grammar 🤣 he the wrong one to be talking about this.
😂😂😂
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Since being reborn a super simp he's qualified
This comment section (like most comment sections on this topic) is confused. He is NOT setting boundaries instead what he IS doing is creating a STANDARD. Boundaries are personal and have nothing to do with controlling another persons freedom or autonomy. He is not setting boundaries. He is controlling her behavior. You set boundaries on things you CAN control. Boundaries are very personal. Yes or no you can't talk to me this way, or yes or no can you use/touch my things. You've crossed over into being controlling the moment you tell me what I can and can't do with my own autonomy over my own life. This is crazy manipulative and I hope she's able to see and trust that this is indeed, toxic behavior. Now when we talk about standards, that's something completely different.
Again, like boundaries, standards are also personal. She cannot control his standards nor should she try to control the fact that she doesn't meet his standards. And THATS OKAY! We’re not always going to meet someone’s standards and that’s where self respect comes in. Respect yourself enough to understand that you don’t have to change or mold yourself to fit someone’s standards and instead find someone’s who’s standards match who you are. Clearly they’re not a good fit. Boundaries are healthy and it is VERY important to understand the difference between boundaries and standards.
This!!!!
I’m with Jonah! Anyone who says otherwise have partners who are for the streets.
You’re super insecure
Exactly. I mean look at Joe his whole life has been for the streets , people give him credit for being for the streets just as bad as a lot of these industry women
And we know BM do poorly setting firm boundaries. That’s one reason why BW be out of pocket because there are no consequences. Average White dudes will fire a bish quick.
Jonah tried to take a woman who is for the streets & turn her into a wife. That’s goofy behavior. She’s already for the streets & doesn’t want to change for him. Men who do things like this get played for their money in a divorce.
They broke up a year ago. She’s posting these texts like it was yesterday to mess with him, and this man is in a whole new relationship
Jonah funny AF for this
Goofy for tryna to tell a thottie to change for him. 😂
S/O TO JONAH! people forget he got a Netflix series with him sitting down with his therapist and u can clearly see it working through then text message. He know what he wants and if the person he’s with nothing giving him that. Then he moves on. That’s great. So many people put up with people BS in a relationship when u don’t have to. Stop settling for the average and find what u really want in your man or woman. Simple. Too many simps in this world letting the woman do whatever to them and then they wonder why they on suicide watch because they with a woman that drives them crazy.
it didn't work
Joe you know better than to discuss topics like this
On God... he been straddling the fence on this kinda shit, but in his real life he be controlling af
Jonah was listening to Joes music while sending those text 😂
Mood musik 💯🤝🏾🤣🤣🤣🤣
😂😂😂😂😂 Joe reading was so ENTERTAINING . HE needs to be added to South Park!!😂😂😂😂
I love Joe story time voice 😂
He needs to do a cartoon show, that shit will be a hit.
just an audio book
@@ANTIStraussian 😂😂😂😂 right like that back in the day one. When the tape recorder red to you 😩
@@Ashwood_Da_starrseed snoop Dogg did a audio book for kids
@@ANTIStraussian yess i love the xmas one from him and Run DMC
What’s wrong with “rules” though? He gave the relationship a shot , realized it wasn’t for him . He let her know and if she didn’t like anything that was said then they go there separate ways respectfully?
Two things. Jonah was wrong for projecting his insecurities on that woman and trying to change her. He values himself as less than other men so he expects his woman would do the same. If he really had "boundaries" he would have never considered that woman in the first place. He wanted to exert control to make himself feel powerful. She was wrong in accepting that BS. She thought she could be on the pathway to marrying a millionaire and chose his money over her own sense of self. She knew what he was asking for was completely unreasonable but she did it anyway and that's her fault.
No doubt Melissa is still beautiful but the Wall is slowly taking over
Some women only want men to be open and honest with them as long as it aligns with their own desires. As soon as honesty means behavioral change, some run. 🤷🏾♀️
Everyone forgetting that they been broken up for over a year damn near two years and she’s posting private messages. She seems bitter he moved on and has a kid.
This is like the dudes who date a pornstar and can’t handle that she’s a pornstar and want her to quit.
I respect Mr. Hill! Boundaries hoe!😂😂😂 City Boys up by 100,000!✊✊🏾
Mel is very much giving "I am replaceable" in this segment 😅
The Pander Pod strikes again 🤦🏾♂️ Mel would’ve been fuming on that couch balling her fists up and biting her lip if I was in that room.
Mel will always find a way to show she a modern women on these topics lol 😂
I get the confusion but yes they can be boundaries.
Relationship boundaries refer to the emotional, physical, and psychological limits or guidelines that individuals establish within a relationship. These boundaries define what is acceptable and appropriate in terms of behaviors, interactions, and expectations between partners or individuals involved in the relationship. Boundaries help establish a sense of personal autonomy, respect, and safety, ensuring that each person's needs, values, and limits are acknowledged and honored within the relationship. They serve as guidelines for maintaining healthy dynamics, promoting open communication, and preventing the violation of personal boundaries.
Also to be honest I get the difficulty with addressing this but if you simply put Muslim or Amish in front of it and many groups follow this same behavior and no one bats an eye.
Not for me but the nuance is you dont need to validate your boundary behind a religion for it to be a boundary even if we disagree with the behavior.
Are you a licensed therapist or psychologist? From what I’ve read and heard from therapists and psychologists, they say boundaries guide your own behavior and not the behavior of someone else.
@@jayyy735 your conflating personal boundary with relationship boundary - but lets take your statement at face value - is cheating a boundary ? its not you or what about religion ?
The defined acceptable behavior of a relationship is a boundary. Furthermore its still represents you because its your relationship.
Again it prevents the violation of personal boundaries.
@@jaccl4539couldn’t agree with you more. Love this comment!
Very thorough comment💯💯
I need a podcast where Joe just reads classic bedtime stories
Subscribed to this pod earlier this year! Gotta say it’s becoming my fav pod! Great crew! Great convos!!
Homie said she can be as free as a bird. He just won’t be there lol
Sounds like boundaries to me.
He didnt like things she was doing. He told her that he didnt like those things. When she contiuned to do those things, he left her.
I don't see a problem. Especially not for her to bring it up years later right after he just had a baby.
why would you date a model suffer chick if you didnt want her to do all that stuff lol
@@ANTIStraussian What she surfs in vs models in are two completely different things.
You don't see how being half naked around random dudes could be bad for a relationship? Especially if this has been a problem for them before (which it seems to have been from the messages).
You don't understand how bad friends can influence your relationship?
You don't see the lack of logic behind dating a rich and extremely famous guy (who pays for everything in your life) and trying to defend your "career".
Maybe he is controlling, but so what. She seems to be extremely manipulative to wait this long to "expose" him.
@@CJ-ct2mu she models with surf boards on the beach with surf related brands. So yeah bikinis and shorts and tank tops. She isn't a snowboard model covered head to toe like an arab chick
@@CJ-ct2mu that's how she was when he met her goofy, what do you think was going to happen.
If you want a nice girl go to church
@@ANTIStraussian Goofy? He left her years ago. She's the goofy for putting the text out. And you're the goofy for defending her lol.
It's funny how there's this whole Jonah Hill debacle all of a sudden
Bro why do you have the picture of this nba announcer , this really threw me off 😂😂😂
@@byranhawkins6994 😂😂 I had to make it my pfp, with all due respect
@@12054life it's lit
@@12054lifeI don’t think he got the “with all due respect” line 😂
10:24 but their his boundaries and he wasn’t forcing it on her
Joe “I’m right here man” lmao
I try to come back and watch the Pod sometimes, yet i continue to be reminded why I stopped watching. This soft Pandering shit is ridiculous 🤦🏾♂️
Look at these niggas!!!? They look like or act like they got pussy before money!? Yn it’s either they f&f or totally simp when they didn’t and they on the simp side. Glad I didn’t have that problem.
100%
Your boundaries are not for me to change my career decisions, Jonah knew the line of work she was in which is a primarily make dominant one.
So, to ask her to stop roaming in that space is pretty wild especially since it’s her livelihood.
I will say when Jonah was talking about boundaryless friendships, and continuing to be friends with people who are in unstable places in life he was starting to cook. He did have some valid points but his behavior is controlling. I guess it really just comes down to if you're with the right person can you accept the level and type of control that comes with the relationship.
I’m with Jonah on this. He made perfect sense
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He shouldn’t have dated her if he didn’t like what she was doing in the beginning. And she shouldn’t have dated him if she felt like he was going to change her. There you go.
I didn't hear him say anything wrong. He's the more famous person in the situation she's running around with hoes and it sounds like still playing little sex games with her male "friends" at the very least flirting. When you surf you're in a bodysuit that largely covers you up. If you then start modeling nude or almost nude in just a thong I could see where he says I didn't sign up for this. Can't have your girlfriend out in the world making you week because she's acting loose. She felt that was too much control so he cut her loose. Also in my personal opinion it sounds like she was playing dumb and he just got tired of that s***.
They obviously had no business being together. Their deal breakers were at odds with each other. PERIOD! ... Im glad they moved on
People who shame Jonah for his safe boundaries are crazy. If you’ve ever been in a “bad relationship” of any kind your going to set boundaries for the next and the next etc.
He met her as a surfer then didnt want her to dress like a surfer
First , no one knows what happened in that relationship for him to ask for those " boundaries". Sounds like ol girl friends are bad influences on her.
Also, these fellas just last week told Keke BD to hold the backseat but not in this scenario? Jester settings
Joe Budden is a Power Bottom!
That’s wild statement 🤣🤣🤣
That wears toeless socks….
“I'm right here” LOL
1:19 oh get to steppin get yo bags and goooooAWN GET
Im with Jonah. They got it wrong on this one. Jonah said he respected whatever she wanted and would support her as a friend if she chose to leave.
we are in the woke era and in some cases extremely woke. women are told that they are princesses by their dumb fathers from the beginning of time and that the world is their oysters and people are surprised that they are the way they are , why?
you got to be delicate with them , pamper them, work hard to provide for them, risk your own life for them, please them, and then after all of that, society now tells you that you are equal to them, but at the same time, be delicate and thoughtful to them...
every woman I see today are dresses like they are some cheap whore and maybe thats an american and european thing but non the less , even 3 year old start dressing like a street hooker at that age and again, we are surprised , why?!!!
when I was growing up, there was a dress code for the baby, the child, the teen, the adults and the elderly. today, everyone wants to be 21 to include the 3 year old the parents dresses like a cheap street hooker. the grandma is in the same clothing acting like she is 21 instead of 81 and the cycle continues
Why would Jonah try to wife her in the first place? He thought she would change for him just like delusion women think men will change. Goofy my boy. 😂
It’s literally her profession. The photos have been there they look like regular surfing pics I would see from women everywhere. She isn’t acting flirtatious or anything. So in this case the word “boundaries” are camouflaged as control tactics. Just say you’re jealous and go back to therapy.
read between the lines bro, surf culture being with men, bitch was sleeping around with the surf dudes and still wanted the man to be cool with it. Yes he met her that way, so what. If you meat a stripper who hustle on the side and now you talking marriage you cool with her still hustling?
@@freetheworld2671 you just answered your own question. He meet her doing this and they never agreed for her to stop so that is on him
I don’t see a problem with Jonah Hill stating his preferences. BUT it is kind of odd that he was chasing a surfing model and then got mad about her living that lifestyle, but that’s why he gave her the option so overall I don’t see why this had to go to social media
horrible take from the whole pod ... he started off the text with plain and simple so that tells you that there was something they were talking about prior he even spoke about his trust was broken because of these things and the only way to move forward is to swap some things she is doing... Sounds to me that she was being too friendly with her male friends, the homegirls she was hanging with are prolly all single and go too hard , she is wearing skimpy swimsuit to surf with her booty out around said men when she can easily wear a body suit.. he broke up with her and moved on and she releases text from over 2 years ago for what? he ain't stuntin her and has a new girl that fits his mold and had his seed the ex is jealous and just trying to put dirt on his name ... How many women would want or allow their men to do these same things before or after cheating? I know for a fact its nun
I'm with Hill on this one.
This should have started by ssying shorty didnt say none or this until after Jonah Hill had moved on and was in a healthy relationship for over a year, his new girlfriend had a child and it was praised online
Dude y’all know y’all would trip if y’all girl was around a million guys
I love Joe and the podcast, but Joe is part of the problem today when it comes to modern dating.
once joe starts reading the texts all of a sudden I pause the dishes to really listen LMAOOO
I respect Jonah if I’m with you and I have deal breakers at least compromise or try to do things in a different light and respect me and there’s nothing wrong with that
Ladies and gentlemen, this is what immasculated American men look like and why feminism rules the country.
You got rich men saying that a man can't set rules for his woman. Making him look crazy for not wanting his girl to post bikini picks.
Simp Ice back at it again.
Those are his boundaries and obviously he found someone who will respect them
I’m with Jonah hill . If she don’t like it … bounce
Man I love how Joe reads❤😂
Keke Palmer can do what she want but if you have standards as a man your wrong I guess😂
End of the day, I've seen gents echo the same sentiments as Jonah, but they didn't express it to their partners in fear that they will breakup and leave. Jonah did what most won't do. Most men aren't like Joe. He's podding. He has a girl who is good to him and has money to afford to not be stressed. Most of us don't have that. Jonas chose to eliminate any element that may cause him stress. What's wrong with that
I could not physically disagree more with this entire panel.
So if he has moved on why bring up old messages?
10 yrs from now Joe gunna be the new Morgan Freeman of narrations
Dude has standards either stay or leave if she doesn’t agree it’s just that simple
If you meet her outside
You can’t get mad that she’s outside
If she’s a professional surfer you can’t get made that she’s a professional surfer
Dont get with someone who is a stripper if you want them to stop stripping once you are together. There are plenty of women you can get with that arent strippers
he not wrong at all...women think they can do what they want to do in a relationship.....that dont make sense....men stay single...He not asking from nothing crazy.
Joe definitely sent worse texts in his day lol
Yall ragging on his current girl cause she aint as pretty who he has dating smh thats petty.
I believe in boundaries!!
Accept people for who they are. Don’t try to change people. If you feel they aren’t fitting the criteria. Leave immediately! You will be doing yourself and the other persons disservice. Protect your peace.
Nah after reading ALL the messages beyond the clip here, this nigga Jonah Hill was pulling a fast one 😂 I like his style lml
Here’s my take.. them aint boundaries, those are insecurities and it all boils down to him being fat the majority of his life and not having the hot girlfriend.
The comments show a lot of y’all never been to therapy besides 11min YT videos 😂
I KNEW which side this pod would be on🤦♂️
This is the Keke Palmer situation remixed for white people but this time the man has the money and some leverage
The women pandering is getting ridiculous.
Just deal breakers lol was she really doing this to help people? He got a whole family now.
Deal breaker is boundaries duh
Yall missing the point. He wanted her to become a stay at home stepford wife and she couldn't do it. She salty cause she fumbled the bag. She would have been set for life. She thought he was trying to control. All he wanted was for her to act right so he can a make her wife and a mother. No she watching some one else live the life she thought was going to be her. Thats why she posted these. Reality just backhanded in the face. Hope them big surfer checks keep coming, cause she aint gone be able to pull another celebrity!
Been there. Ex wife did the same. Except in my case it was regarding a “friend” that she had previously been with before. Before marriage I said me or him. She broke down crying like a family member died. Her, her family, her friends, he’ll even some of my family and friends called me insecure…Guess who she cheated on me with. When I divorced her I nearly called the police for a health and welfare check(we were separated). I sincerely thought she was suicidal. She begged and pleaded, tried to leverage other people to talk to me…funny enough in the end she got served my divorce paperwork by our former pastors who she was previously closer to. They encouraged me to divorced her lol.
Y'all nasty af for acting like if he called then deal breakers that it would have been met with any less boots on his neck.... the thing that made this bad was any critique on a woman's behavior or actions.... ask India Arie .... she didn't even really critique the women... just the time and place that the actions occurred... and they cooked her ass up....
Another one sided debate
I swear ever since they added this girl to the cast, the show has been a little less manly SMH
8:33 that was...amazing.
I kept asking myself, yo why would she wanna leak these texts, it's not giving what she think- AND BAM
Jonah started going completely off the rails and it just made me cheer that lass on for exposing his hypocritical faux spiritual little man syndrome HAVIN ass
I love how she posted this right when Jonas kid was born, and he got engaged, like that chick off her rocker. I get how it can come across, but he literally said 'then I'm not the partner for you', that is your out, be free! Don't complain years later and make it seem bigger than it actually is. Sweetheart, you look just as crazy as he does.
No one is in the wrong. We have two people with two different lifestyles and social networks.
No she was in the wrong the moment she posted the text. Him presenting his boundaries and her choosing to leave are perfectly reasonable. But to post those text to garner public sympathy a year plus after the breakup helps illuminate his fears about her decision making.
I don't want to sound rude but they look like father and daughter...
Maybe as a 40 year, he should date modern women in their 20s since they have a different mentality
Maybe 40 and 25 are in 2 different worlds. I'd stick to people close to my age