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@@nukaajitreddy3628 Battery and motor is IP67 Rated. Battery is completely sealed off from external environment, the cooling system is also closed loop ie the coolant never comes in contact with air or the battery itself, it only acts as medium of transferring heat
@@cayennest Why don't you give a timeline and state the errors? There might be few factual errors, but largely video is correct. Why don't you state what all is incorrect and why, then MotorOctane possible can correct and release an updated video. Just saying "Lots of errors" does no good to anyone.
@@HirrenGala dude... I have been driving one since four years and I have no issues and love it. Hope your usage soon matches some practical EVs that are currently available. If not atleast your next gen might find one. Till then take care.
Hi Rachit @motoroctane I am a Nexon EV owner. I feel the problem with EVs is, they have become more of an appliance rather than a vehicle. And with poor manufacturing process added with below par dealer dominated support framework, makes it a gamble. If you got a decent car, then you might be happy. But if you have got a defective car, then you're at god's mercy. Sometimes it's worth thinking "are we ready for EV yet”. Here are the details for this observation. I purchased my car in Jan 2022. 1st Breakdown: 18th March 2022, location Bengaluru I was going for vaccination of my Daughter (4 months old at that time). My wife and baby had to wait for a couple of hours on the road in sun taking all the head and pollution waiting for the tow truck. Service centre guys told, it was a simple problem where a cable went loose. 2nd Breakdown: 5th January 2023, location Ooty. (Daughter 14th months old). On a family holiday, suddenly the car started showing a critical battery error and went into limp mode. The car had to be towed to Coimbatore service centre. We had to abruptly finish our trip and had to travel and stay in Coimbatore (charges extra paid from my pocket). Again as per the service centre, issue was very simple as some condensation had deposited on the LV ports. I wonder what would had happened if the car had broken down in the forest. 3rd Breakdown: 17th April 2023, location Bengaluru. Car had been lying in the parking lot as I had to visit my home town. After coming back, we I tried to start the car go again critical battery error, and had to sent it to the service centre. Now again I was told, it was a simple issue of HV cable loose in DC-DC. I had wrote to all contacts available over internet for 2 things. 1. To do a through checkup of the car & 2. Post launch of Nexon EV Max, as a cost cutting measure, Nexon EV(Now prime), doesn’t come with a bottom plastic guard to covers the internals. I asked to get me. (At my cost) Nothing has been done, till date. Got a call from Tata Motors Regional CRM. He listend and made an empty promise of fulfilling the asks. Till date they are “evaluating”. Sad to say govt works better than tata employees . So I would like to advise your viewers to think thrice before buying a Tata EV.
This is very true. I had the HV critical alert twice so far on Nexon EV prime and got stuck with my 4 yr old and wife in a U-turn! Never felt so unsafe being in a car. Car towing guy called after 2 hours. I had to hire a cab and send my wife and kid home. Luckily I was in city. But it was on May-1st. No service Center open for emergency breakdown. No service personnel available. So your emergency support is down the drain. Having an unreliable Nexon EV and not having reliable service support makes things even worse. I’m now so skeptical to use the car for distances more than 10 km
@@ICEBreakup yes I understand this feeling. We feel so helpless and insecure. And worst part is the manufacturer doesn’t respond to requests. Had it been any other “appliance” we can do return/exchange. But here you can’t. Even your ask for a through checkup is not fulfilled. And also I think online when you search you don’t get a forum where impacted people like us are sharing the pain.
Good work Rachit I also have Nexon EV Prime couple of days ago i had stuck on road in between traffic due to sudden Battery Drainage issue!! I had to wait more then 30 minutes to get call connect with customer care ! I started calling customer care @ 10.30 pm and call answered @ 11.00 pm and car towed @ 2.00 AM in nxt morning. Service centre took 3 day and took trial & found nothing and replied its a software update is available and we had upgrade the software. As u can think how a software be a reason of sudden battery loss? Let say an older software that was running on car since i bought suddenly it gets kind of EXPIRED on a date and it will be reason of failure. As i follow you guys i searched on multiple websites for is there any software update available? Surprisingly there is no such update released by company! When i asked them to provide the version of older one on my car and new updated version they failed to answer it as there is no such thing available. I noticed there is so much confusion in service centre guy’s Knowledge even i talked to technician, CRM of dealership, Regional OFFICER who look after EV complaints they all contradict their knowledge about how to use EV, Charging cycle, LOW PERFORMANCE MODE which enables 20% battery to get charged to charging, one of the guy said if u use fast charge an be a reason for battery issue! When i told him i had use fast charge only 2 times since I bought car he kept silence! Now if a fast charging is affecting such to batteries in such low time why company is promoting fast charging? I also find on multiple visits to service centre it seems there no such infrastructure & guidelines & training given to technicians till now and its working in gods mercy !!! There is so much to get know before someone buy an EV & like you Rachit be the source of knowledge Requesting you to be the voice of frustrated customers of TATA EV as i only have exposure to TATA as having TATA car filling and getting no help from customer care!! Once again Thank you for the knowledge you spreading keep up the good work and help current as well as new buyers
Another Advantages: 1. Almost No vibration and noise except tire and wind 2. Low CG.. So better handling and cornering and also less roll over 3. Almost no maintenance except tyre replacement 4. More boot space and Dickey under bonet in some case 5. Regenerative braking help to recharge battery, dissipate heat and provide longer life to brake (if a car has feature) 6. No need to shutdown engine at traffic signal 7. Eliminate PUC certificates 8. No clutch 9. More reliable due to less moving parts 10. Longer life.. May be 30 year and above (just wait and watch) if take care 11. Almost impossible to drive back ICE car if u have EV habit
one person has driven 1,62,000 kms on nexon prime ev on the original tyres itself... feels amazing to know this.. his video is there on some youtube channel.
Commendable analysis done by @Motoroctane team. I just completed 580km high range trip covering 1700 feet elevation. It was very effortless drive and economical.
Animation me BYD ke jagah Volkswagen ka logo dikhaya gya. Rachit bhai, I appreciate this brilliant video. To clarify, NMC batteries generally have an expected charge cycle range of 500-1500 cycles, while LFP batteries offer a higher range of 2000-5000 cycles. Moreover, LFP batteries exhibit a low degradation rate of just 2% per 1000 cycles. Therefore, it is reasonable to expect a much slower degradation of the Nexon EV's battery compared to the 12% degradation at 3.2 lakh kilometers in the case of Tesla. From a battery longevity perspective, the Nexon EV outperforms the XUV400 EV.
This video has been very helpful. Just wanted to know for how long can I keep my ev in the garage without use. As most of the time I'm out of station for long... And what precautions to be taken. Thanks
Very informative video. You covered the statistics on cars catching fire. I thought you would give reasons for this happening. Stats can be twisted; facts are solid!
How does the Charge Cycle apply to Hybrid cars like Toyota Hyryder? Because the charge discharge cycle is very erratic in the technology of Hybrid cars. Do try to make a video specific to this. Thanks for sharing such information, helping to make right decisions.
Thanks for such an informative video! I personally was worried about investing in an EV due to these myths/ rumours, but this video surely helped reconsider my decision.
More than explaining technology, ,after 5 years the battery will start to degrade rapidly and will cost approx 6 to 9 lakhs to replace the battery...as per today's prices. Imagine putting 9 lakhs on a 5 yr old car...a depreciating asset. Ev makes sense if you drive at least 100 km every day for next 5 yrs....that's a good roi. If it is just 20 -30k, you will be losing money.
Man Rachit You straight away started spitting facts 🤌🏽 Loved this video Can you make a video where Atleast 5 of you and your crew mates each take an EV car and drive until it goes 0
8years life of NMC BATTERIES LIFE = 1500 cyle x 200km per cyle = runs 3lakhs km in life time If we run 100km per day on an average...then 3lakhs km/ 100 km = 3000days life of battery... Further 3000 days / 365 days(1year) = 8.2 years the total life of battery....
Very nicely explained... only thing is that XUV 400 shd hv given more mature products with all advanced safety things..traction control...etc like. Exon ev...so it can give a tough mature healthy competition ❤
True. They should also update the interior ASAP. The nexon is getting facelifted soon which will also come to the EV variant soon enough. XUV will be in even worse position then
Evn though XUV has NMC battery bt battery capacity of Nexon and XUV is same so as a customer dosnt make difference ( ppl claim NMC has higher power density so XUV is better is jst a bullshit point )
@@pranavvalvaikar2170 xuv is actually available in two variants, EC and EL. EC gets 34.5kWh and EL gets 39.4kWh Nexon floor board had to be modified in the max to accommodate extra 10kWh but EC and EL xuv both have same space due to higher density. If both cars were
Economical 😂 What? a nexon costs 21 lakhs If thats edonomical for you then go ahead And running cost is only low till it becomes mainstream Its going to cost as much as petrol and diesel
Hello i am a doctor by profession and After consulting twice with motor octane, i bought MG ZS EV 6 months back . Currently happy with my car as i have already completed 30,000 kms in 6 months as my daily commute is 150kms. Not faced any problems till now. Thanks for helping me chose electric car back than.
Very extensively covered, and really really helpful in understanding underlying technology and durability of battery packs. Thank you so much for this super detailed video on this.
I bought an ICE car this month and not an electric car because of reasons entirely separate from the ones covered in this video. Most of my reasons come down to, in my opinion, the extremely low charging speeds of the EVs that cost below 25 lakhs. 1) Even if you consider DC fast charging, the Nexon EV Max can charge at a measly 50 kW speed and it will take an hour to charge up from 0% to 80%. An entire hour of charging cannot compete with the quick 3 minute fuel up on an ICE car. 2) If I'm going on a very long trip, I don't want to make my family wait around for an hour when we don't want to just because the car needs it. The car should be serving us, we should not be servants to the car. 3) The comparisons of ICE vs Electric vehicles on RUclips either never take into consideration this time wasted on charging or play it off as time we can spend with our family eating at a restaurant near the fast charging station. Well, this sort of forces us into breaks when we might not want one and also forces us to dine at a restaurant near a charging station. With an ICE car I can just go visit whichever restaurant or dhaba I want and not worry about the needs of my car. 4) There is a difference of nearly 5 lakhs between the feature equivalent variants of the petrol Nexon and the Nexon EV. That difference is simply too high to justify especially considering that buying this EV comes with the additional time commitment I previously mentioned. You may earn lost money back but you will never get back lost time. 5) Now if you say that most people go on long trips once in 3 months or so and can tolerate this time lost and they mostly use their cars for daily work commute then you still can't ignore the massive price difference over the petrol car equivalent. Most estimates on RUclips say that your running would have to be really high for you to break even on the cost of an EV vs a petrol equivalent over a 5 year period. Keep in mind the money you "save" by not spending on an EV can be invested too and then breaking even with an EV becomes even more challenging. 6) Charging at home isn't as cheap as it is made out to be. If you charge on your home meter then you are driving up your unit usage and you end up paying more for using the power hungry appliances at your home as well like ACs, microwaves, fridges, PCs etc. 7) The EVs that are available below 25 lakhs are not born electric. They started as ICE cars and the chassis was slightly modified to fit a battery. This means the chassis was not designed with a battery in mind and the use of space for the battery is not at all optimal. It should be possible to have a sub 4 metre car with a skateboard platform that can fit a battery larger than the 40 kWh one in the EV Max. Furthermore, with time and advancements in technology this battery should become cheap enough and charge fast enough that we can have that 0% to 80% charge time to be under 15 minutes in our sub 25 lakh cars. The charging infrastructure also needs to improve big time not just in quantity but also quality. 250 kW chargers should become the only chargers worth calling as fast chargers, 50 kW chargers can't be seriously called "fast", even today. 8) It is absolutely worth waiting for the above technological advancements and infrastructure improvements while saving our money and buying ICE cars. Right now Tata and Mahindra are the only players in the budget EV scene and frankly Tata is dominating it. Only once competition comes in from Hyundai, Suzuki, Honda, Volkswagen and the other big companies will the consumers start reaping the benefits of more options. I hope Rachit addresses these points also. The points covered in this video were honestly low-hanging fruit and very easy to address but there are other genuine reasons to stay away from EVs in India for the time being.
Same brother financially speaking it would take an ev around 10 yrs with 1000km monthly driving to break even. Then you can just resell ur Ice and buy the then advanced electric tech available.
Rachit sir , you just fire 🔥🔥🔥 really you are a guru of all cars But i am overly says that you clarify every thing very simple and easy.But I don't know however i am see your all content .when i see your content my all doubts has gone of the all cars .Nice ,nailed it.Go Ahead Rachit sir ❤️👍😍
Hiii Rachit.... Excellent information regarding the EV.... I have one doubt... As u said LFP batteries have a cycle of around 3000 charges if charged from 5% to 100%.... I drive around 84 Km (48% battery) everyday and as soon as i reach home i put my car on charging.... So my question is how many charging cycles my car battery can possibly reach....??? @MotorOctane
Anti Ev lobby will keep on trying propogating myths and rumours such a big youtuber channel like u will definately help the world to become world greener and help all of us to breathe more fresh and clean air hats off for ur efforts 🎉🎉❤
This is very very honest and well explained video for those who are switching from combustion to an EV Very good effort by you and your team.. वो क्या है ना हिन्दुस्तानी आदमी की आदत है पहले इस्तेमाल karo फिर विश्वास karo 😜😜
Did not expect an Indian youtuber to actually be this right about EVs. Kudos. The main problem of EVs in India is the pathetic battery capacity, high costs and no fast charging. Won't even consider what you're getting on MG, Hyundai, Tata, etc as fast charging. Tata especially is awful. And companies like Citroen is using air cooled batteries which will die quicker. Not to mention the dreaded HV critical battery issue on Tata cars and Tata's notorious service.
Good video But still 3 disadvantage That's cooling, low Range and fast charging An electric car should have a cooling system like a gaming pc/phone Minimum range should be 400-500kms per charge We've seen now fast charging a mobile 0-100 in 10min without heating mobile(like OnePlus/Vivo/oppo) heating will transfer in charging brick We can implement this type of system then electric cars will improve
already has better cooling than gaming PC and phone gaming pc still uses fans EV uses ethylene glycol for liquid cooling system with radiator and chiller
battery 8 year ki factory warranty ke saath aati hai.. kya battery ki warranty extend ho sakti hai ?? agar hoti hai toh kitne years ki hoti hai aur cost kitni lagegi ??
Hi Rachit.... A brilliant video with the detailing. I have got to believe and have seen that the temperature of the battery depends on the weather.. like in the humidity (Summer)... The battery world get really really hot which could lead to an exploration... In the winters the battery dies because of the cold wave....hence reducing the left of the battery even further What are your thoughts on this... Regards
This is the best video ever ! I really have a lot of doubts clarified. I think the insurance question should be addressed in detail and that should help complete the thought.
Very well explained , but there is a lot of work still needs to be done in terms of adapting to ev infrastructure in India, take an example of CNG , its been around 20 years since CNG has been implemented, but still today not all the pumps are having that CNG facilities , I see vehicles standing in large numbers in pumps to get the CNG refilled.., also not to forget with fast chargers the charging time is 45 mins min.., and with regular chargers the avg time is around 6-8 hours, yes ev's save money but there will be an added burden of not only charging it but charging it on time so that it should be good to go to the next day , if forgot to charge then take a 🚖.., unlike petrol / diesel cars , Regarding the number of fire catches in petrol cars vs ev's , the number is higher in petrol car because the majority of people are still using ICE cars as compared to ev's, which are relatively new..
the fire stats are per 1lakh cars, not absolute numbers for example if 1 million EVs are on the road, then only 250 caught fire (25 EVs per 100K cars) same way, if 1529 ICE cars caught fire per 100K cars, then the actual fire cases of ICE cars over say 100million ICE cars would be 15,29,000 to adjust for the disparity in the number of EVs and ICE, we use per 1000 or per 10k or per 100k figures like used here you can also use percentage, its essentially same as percetage
Bhai fast chargers are more in India than a petrol pump bhai u live in India right 😂😂 there is no more range anxiety in India and it is growing @ 10 times as lot of private companies have come up
@@shresthsonkar9207 ok, but what about those cases where ICE cars caught fire because of LPG or CNG ? Do they count as under ICE car fire data as well ,i guess it will count under ICE cars only.., if they do then the stat is not correct because in most cases the fire is caught in the vehicles running on CNG or LPG ...
@@prashwin0917 bro I definitely live in India , like you do.., but its very important to have some knowledge before writing anything.., having a fast chargers is different thing and having a charging stations is different .., you can't charge your vehicle with your chargers alone..., and if you are trying to say that fast chrging stations are more than petrol pumps in India.., then I think you are an Idiot.., bs bkchodi krne aaye ho yaha.., go to some rural areas, jaha p aaj bhi electricity nahi h.., and in developed cities you can find charging stations easily but in semi urban areas.., it is still a concern.., and fast chargers bhi take around 45 mins .., and if those stations already has some ev's lined up fir kya krega bhaii.., khada rhio 2 ghnte fast charger leke 🤣😂.., and also there are some cases jaha 20% battery me logo ki cars bilkul band pdd gyi h , so uss situation if u r with family the what would you do ? Fast charger leke ghoomta rhega kya ? 🤣😂 , offce se aake car charging p lgani bul gaya to agle din boss ko kya bolega ki battry low thi car ki isiliye late ho gaya , ya leve lega ya cab krke aayega .., b sensible man...
Very nice video.. just missed one very important point which is EV charge anxiety which leads to more charge cycles in less number of days and thereby decreasing the 12.5 years of battery life to 8 years. Hence, companies are giving max 8 years of warranty on the battery pack There is one more point you mentioned petrol car running cost as Rs 10-12 per km which is highly exaggerated. For a nexon, it shouldn’t be more than Rs 8 per km. You also didn’t cover the difference between purchase price of an electric car and a petrol car. For a nexon, the difference between top models is Rs 6 lakhs. You also didn’t talk about the resale value of EVs which is much lower than petrol cars currently.
There few points I would like shed some lights on 1. The charging cycle example is kind of misleading as you don't fully zero the car than charge it to full, it's around 20-30% and than charge it to full or 80-90% hence charging cycle will be around 100-150 cycles per year for 50km/day and will be around 200-250 for 100km/day. 2. Secondly given the Indian hot weather condition I still have my doubts on battery capacity holding around 85-90% or usable even after 8 years when used to extended period of time, given all the EV data are from the countries with cold climate which doesn't effect the battery as much even if they get hot. 3. Yes companies are giving warranty of 8 years but people often sale their cars after 8-10 years only and without warranty and high cost of insurance the resale value of car would take a big hit with already initial price gap of 3-5 lakhs. So saving on EV could eventually be cancelled out. - Lastly it was a great video MotorOctane you have cleared almost 90-95% of the doubt on EV batteries for all people.
Hey Nitin 1. Even if you look at 250 - it is still 3 lakh kms. 2. Battery drains charge fast in cold more than heat. It depends on how do you drive, charge your car to retain your battery percentage.
Battery degradation happens mostly when the charge level is near the extremes (0-15% and 85-100%). Avoiding such charge levels is actually better for the lifespan. The estimated no. of total charge cycles is calculated with a full depth of discharge but if the extreme charge levels are avoided then the total number of charge cycles increases
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Good detailed info👏. I think things are made worse by incompetent sales & service folks. Currently I am in the market to buy an EV, the sales guys of different showrooms provided contradictory info on the same model! Not to speak of different manufactures. And the service department is also failing the EV owners big time (as apparent from the comments)
We went to Goa last week and stayed in Le meridian hotel and there we saw very less charging stations for the EV cars… so not sure how we can buy these EV cars
Literally more than a dozen chargers in Goa itself Village utopia cottage (palolem beach) Radisson Blu Hotel Season Taj hotel and resort Taj cicade Blu resorts Hotel Zone Hotel Bloom Suites Hotel Treehouse The park hotel Park Inn Hotel Candolim These are just the hotels, not counting restaurants and miscellenous chargers all over Goa
Your audience is already well informed about the price of the battery. 8.5lakhs is a lot of money to replace the battery (Nexon) Even if it gets cheaper it will still be in lakhs.
Ecosport engine rebuild costs 3L, mere mamaji ki 3y old ecosport got engine rebuilt from his own pocket since company cited some BS reasons for failure which was not covered under warranty (this is around 2015-16)
Unlike engines, All EVs will have to replace their batteries whether in 12 years or 25. And that will affect the resale value significantly. No one is going to buy a 15 year old Nexon with a range of 80-100kms. They will have to replace the battery.
@@hiteshlalwani8039 but why resale it? Replace battery after 10 yrs and car is new again. Battery technology is changing much faster than ICE. 10 years is a small period for any significant change in petrol or diesel engines but After 10 yrs one would be getting much better batteries, technology wise to replace the old ones, so for me a use EV with new battery is a better value than a used ICE car with same or even replaced engine.
Motoroctane really good video, people have a lot of misunderstandings regarding vehicle batteries and to explain to someone is painful. I recently attended an ev show and in Q and A there were battery questions and to explain them was pain.if someone says anything regarding battery will show them your video.
Dear Rachit, please add your research to identify the opensource tools and technologies that we can use our self to diagnose the BMS and ECU related issue by connecting the OBD ports. that helps to remove the dependency of service scenter loot. Also one session is required to explain the tips and tricks on fast chargers. simple hacks can save you on emergency situations and troubleshooting.
@@pratyayamrit007 I'd ask you counter question, what are will be resale price of BS6 E10 due to E20 in future? What will be resale of diesel cars amid the fact that the goverment has been presented with proposal to ban diesel vehicles in 1M+ populated cities What will be the resale value of so called "best of both worlds" hybrids when their battery doesn't even have cooling system in hot country like India and the avg hybrid battery completes 2-3 cycles per day due to small capacity? There is no certainity about anything, not even about the fact whether we will live to see another day or not, daresay. So I don't see how this is an "EV PROBLEM" and not a general uncertainity which affects every car You can use OBDII to check battery health status of any EV so it would be very transparent to second hand buyer to check how good the EV is The more the health the more the resale. The only thing that may affect resale is changing technology. Like let’s say rn only Nexon EV max gets 50kW dc charging but in future Tata may give that to normal Nexon EV prime also which currently only gets 25kW dc charging. In this scenario, the price will fall for those EVs since they lack features that new EVs at their price point will have Or let’s say Nexon gets adas in next generation acc to rumours then also prices will fall since a big feature will be missing from current gen compared to future gen.
Hi Rachit. Thanks for such informative videos. I have one question very specific to the services. I was stranded in jungle yesterday in my ICE car after clutchplate was broken and that left gear lever stuck. Luckily i was able to get help from the locals who had knowledge of such ice vehicles. I know there was an option of roadside assistance. But i have seen waiting period is over 3-4 hours. Even for my electric two wheeler. While i was stationary at jungle in ghats. How much does it take for everyone to understand this complex machine? Also my another question is, we have to go to same dealers and authorize service centers only to maintain the warranty. But end up paying more than the actual cost as the service providers are limited. Do you see any progress in service providers network being extended to all over india?
From an engineering point of view(and someone who has built racing EVs), electric vehicles are much much much simpler than an internal combustion engine which have hundreds of moving parts. In an ev you basically have 3 major components - motor, controller and battery system. In due time we will have more service stations for electric vehicles than we have for ICE enginers.
My neighbours Nexon EV's battery has been already changed 3 times in 50k kms. Imagine what will happen after warranty 😂 Each battery costs more than 8.5 lakhs
Are you sure? Doesn’t seem possible. There are many petrol and diesel cars where engine is changed in the first few thousand kms - that doesn’t mean all engines will be bad.
3 times seems exaggerated. People have competed more than a lakh kms in the Nexon EV with no such issues. Only a handful had their batteries changed and that too only once. I'm sure this would make news cause everyone likes to bash EVs.
Mere pass bhi naxon ev hai 15k chal gayi hai kuch problem nahi ayi hai or mujhe umidh hai 1.5 lack bhi ache se cahl jayenghi kuch car me falut aa sakta hai
Hi, it's really a very informative vedeo, I would like to ask you just 1 thing. If my electric car is not driven for a long time, will the batree get discharged staying at 1 place unused??.
The biggest issue that wasn't touched upon is the criteria of application for defective or degraded battery replacement under warranty. Whether use it or not they will deteriorate naturally just like a mobile phone. Still 8 years of decent service life can be expected albeit with falling range with falling year. For me until 2030 EV doesn't make sense, government and ev lobbies won't allow for strong Hybrids which is the best option without worrying about poor charging infrastructure and range anxiety, so petrol ICE is the best option in petrol version
Hi Rachit, It was a wonderful video with great insight about car batteries, however you missed to clarify on one point i.e. “Battery Shelf life”. You emphasised on battery cycles but not considered the shelf life which also deteriorates the battery life. E.g. A battery kept unused for couple of years can be deteriorated and the life cycle can be low. So with the above point, I would be very happy if you can cover it in your next video related to EV or car batteries. Thank you very much for your special and amazing videos all the time!!😊
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Very deep knowledge for every video thank you rachit bhai
Sir Wht abt ev cars in rainy weather in water logged conditions at times like in mumbai
Sir, you are trying to introduce Ev cars to indian market... Hats off to you sir
@@nukaajitreddy3628 Battery and motor is IP67 Rated.
Battery is completely sealed off from external environment, the cooling system is also closed loop ie the coolant never comes in contact with air or the battery itself, it only acts as medium of transferring heat
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This video should be on national electric mission portal. Amazing effort to clear the confusion, beautifully done 👌
Lots of errors in this video
@@cayennest Why don't you give a timeline and state the errors? There might be few factual errors, but largely video is correct. Why don't you state what all is incorrect and why, then MotorOctane possible can correct and release an updated video. Just saying "Lots of errors" does no good to anyone.
Poor Mr Nagakiran. Please don't be a gullible fool and buy an EV after watching this comparision. We are still years away from a perfect EV.
@@HirrenGala dude... I have been driving one since four years and I have no issues and love it.
Hope your usage soon matches some practical EVs that are currently available. If not atleast your next gen might find one. Till then take care.
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Hi Rachit @motoroctane I am a Nexon EV owner. I feel the problem with EVs is, they have become more of an appliance rather than a vehicle. And with poor manufacturing process added with below par dealer dominated support framework, makes it a gamble. If you got a decent car, then you might be happy. But if you have got a defective car, then you're at god's mercy. Sometimes it's worth thinking "are we ready for EV yet”.
Here are the details for this observation. I purchased my car in Jan 2022. 1st Breakdown: 18th March 2022, location Bengaluru I was going for vaccination of my Daughter (4 months old at that time). My wife and baby had to wait for a couple of hours on the road in sun taking all the head and pollution waiting for the tow truck. Service centre guys told, it was a simple problem where a cable went loose.
2nd Breakdown: 5th January 2023, location Ooty. (Daughter 14th months old). On a family holiday, suddenly the car started showing a critical battery error and went into limp mode. The car had to be towed to Coimbatore service centre. We had to abruptly finish our trip and had to travel and stay in Coimbatore (charges extra paid from my pocket). Again as per the service centre, issue was very simple as some condensation had deposited on the LV ports. I wonder what would had happened if the car had broken down in the forest.
3rd Breakdown: 17th April 2023, location Bengaluru. Car had been lying in the parking lot as I had to visit my home town. After coming back, we I tried to start the car go again critical battery error, and had to sent it to the service centre. Now again I was told, it was a simple issue of HV cable loose in DC-DC.
I had wrote to all contacts available over internet for 2 things.
1. To do a through checkup of the car &
2. Post launch of Nexon EV Max, as a cost cutting measure, Nexon EV(Now prime), doesn’t come with a bottom plastic guard to covers the internals. I asked to get me. (At my cost)
Nothing has been done, till date. Got a call from Tata Motors Regional CRM. He listend and made an empty promise of fulfilling the asks. Till date they are “evaluating”. Sad to say govt works better than tata employees .
So I would like to advise your viewers to think thrice before buying a Tata EV.
Thank you for your valuable input.
This is very true. I had the HV critical alert twice so far on Nexon EV prime and got stuck with my 4 yr old and wife in a U-turn! Never felt so unsafe being in a car. Car towing guy called after 2 hours. I had to hire a cab and send my wife and kid home. Luckily I was in city. But it was on May-1st. No service Center open for emergency breakdown. No service personnel available. So your emergency support is down the drain. Having an unreliable Nexon EV and not having reliable service support makes things even worse. I’m now so skeptical to use the car for distances more than 10 km
@@ICEBreakup yes I understand this feeling. We feel so helpless and insecure. And worst part is the manufacturer doesn’t respond to requests. Had it been any other “appliance” we can do return/exchange. But here you can’t. Even your ask for a through checkup is not fulfilled. And also I think online when you search you don’t get a forum where impacted people like us are sharing the pain.
This is extremely important point give by you for the upcoming owners. Thank you so much for sharing this Mr. Amitabh
Good work Rachit
I also have Nexon EV Prime couple of days ago i had stuck on road in between traffic due to sudden Battery Drainage issue!! I had to wait more then 30 minutes to get call connect with customer care ! I started calling customer care @ 10.30 pm and call answered @ 11.00 pm and car towed @ 2.00 AM in nxt morning. Service centre took 3 day and took trial & found nothing and replied its a software update is available and we had upgrade the software. As u can think how a software be a reason of sudden battery loss? Let say an older software that was running on car since i bought suddenly it gets kind of EXPIRED on a date and it will be reason of failure. As i follow you guys i searched on multiple websites for is there any software update available?
Surprisingly there is no such update released by company! When i asked them to provide the version of older one on my car and new updated version they failed to answer it as there is no such thing available.
I noticed there is so much confusion in service centre guy’s Knowledge even i talked to technician, CRM of dealership, Regional OFFICER who look after EV complaints they all contradict their knowledge about how to use EV, Charging cycle, LOW PERFORMANCE MODE which enables 20% battery to get charged to charging, one of the guy said if u use fast charge an be a reason for battery issue! When i told him i had use fast charge only 2 times since I bought car he kept silence! Now if a fast charging is affecting such to batteries in such low time why company is promoting fast charging?
I also find on multiple visits to service centre it seems there no such infrastructure & guidelines & training given to technicians till now and its working in gods mercy !!!
There is so much to get know before someone buy an EV & like you Rachit be the source of knowledge
Requesting you to be the voice of frustrated customers of TATA EV as i only have exposure to TATA as having TATA car filling and getting no help from customer care!!
Once again Thank you for the knowledge you spreading keep up the good work and help current as well as new buyers
Another Advantages:
1. Almost No vibration and noise except tire and wind
2. Low CG.. So better handling and cornering and also less roll over
3. Almost no maintenance except tyre replacement
4. More boot space and Dickey under bonet in some case
5. Regenerative braking help to recharge battery, dissipate heat and provide longer life to brake (if a car has feature)
6. No need to shutdown engine at traffic signal
7. Eliminate PUC certificates
8. No clutch
9. More reliable due to less moving parts
10. Longer life.. May be 30 year and above (just wait and watch) if take care
11. Almost impossible to drive back ICE car if u have EV habit
Dickey got me😂😂
one person has driven 1,62,000 kms on nexon prime ev on the original tyres itself... feels amazing to know this.. his video is there on some youtube channel.
Amazing video by Rachit, backed and substantiated with data. Kudos to the team.
Commendable analysis done by @Motoroctane team. I just completed 580km high range trip covering 1700 feet elevation. It was very effortless drive and economical.
oh in which car?
Animation me BYD ke jagah Volkswagen ka logo dikhaya gya.
Rachit bhai, I appreciate this brilliant video. To clarify, NMC batteries generally have an expected charge cycle range of 500-1500 cycles, while LFP batteries offer a higher range of 2000-5000 cycles. Moreover, LFP batteries exhibit a low degradation rate of just 2% per 1000 cycles. Therefore, it is reasonable to expect a much slower degradation of the Nexon EV's battery compared to the 12% degradation at 3.2 lakh kilometers in the case of Tesla. From a battery longevity perspective, the Nexon EV outperforms the XUV400 EV.
Thats very informative...brother
I have a colleague who is using tesla model s since 2012 and actually has 320,000 kms. His car performs much better though.
So Nexon ev reliable for 15 years?
If a person drives 50 to 100km , they should blindly go to electric as per petrol cost 😂
Really?
I need 15 km per day?
Please reply
Electric
What you did,is just You make me right... Now I don't have to argue with so many people. I'll just share your video. Thank you.
By far the best video from Motoroctane. All myths explained properly. Still I would choose a diesel 😂
There is lots of youtubers but non of them make people awareness videos, from today i will only see your videos regards cars and bikes
Tata Harrier XZ Plus Dark for Long routes and Tiago EV XZ+ LR for City drive. That's my perfect combo now.
Bhai you just nailed it, this is what everyone needs to know to burst their myths about EV’s.
But the real life reviews are not the same as rachit
@@benipaulsingh3062 who told i am using ev since 10 months and 20k of driving, each and every point stated and described is truth
Almost all possible points covered. Thank you team for the dedication.
This video has been very helpful. Just wanted to know for how long can I keep my ev in the garage without use. As most of the time I'm out of station for long... And what precautions to be taken. Thanks
Very informative video, this video cleared many of my doubts
Very informative video. You covered the statistics on cars catching fire. I thought you would give reasons for this happening. Stats can be twisted; facts are solid!
The Video We All Awaited 💓
Specially EVs❤
How does the Charge Cycle apply to Hybrid cars like Toyota Hyryder? Because the charge discharge cycle is very erratic in the technology of Hybrid cars. Do try to make a video specific to this. Thanks for sharing such information, helping to make right decisions.
Thanks for such an informative video! I personally was worried about investing in an EV due to these myths/ rumours, but this video surely helped reconsider my decision.
More than explaining technology, ,after 5 years the battery will start to degrade rapidly and will cost approx 6 to 9 lakhs to replace the battery...as per today's prices. Imagine putting 9 lakhs on a 5 yr old car...a depreciating asset. Ev makes sense if you drive at least 100 km every day for next 5 yrs....that's a good roi. If it is just 20 -30k, you will be losing money.
Man Rachit
You straight away started spitting facts 🤌🏽
Loved this video
Can you make a video where Atleast 5 of you and your crew mates each take an EV car and drive until it goes 0
8years life of NMC BATTERIES
LIFE = 1500 cyle x 200km per cyle = runs 3lakhs km in life time
If we run 100km per day on an average...then
3lakhs km/ 100 km = 3000days life of battery...
Further 3000 days / 365 days(1year) = 8.2 years the total life of battery....
Very informative, keep it up. When do you think electric mining start in India and does it bring down the cost
This is kind of video needed to clear all the myths kudos team well done 🎉
Very nicely explained... only thing is that XUV 400 shd hv given more mature products with all advanced safety things..traction control...etc like. Exon ev...so it can give a tough mature healthy competition ❤
True.
They should also update the interior ASAP.
The nexon is getting facelifted soon which will also come to the EV variant soon enough. XUV will be in even worse position then
@@shresthsonkar9207 Yaa nexon xuv 400 even not looks like evs
XUV400 ka interior unpolished hai. Nexon EV feels more primium from inside
Evn though XUV has NMC battery bt battery capacity of Nexon and XUV is same so as a customer dosnt make difference ( ppl claim NMC has higher power density so XUV is better is jst a bullshit point )
@@pranavvalvaikar2170 xuv is actually available in two variants, EC and EL.
EC gets 34.5kWh and EL gets 39.4kWh
Nexon floor board had to be modified in the max to accommodate extra 10kWh but EC and EL xuv both have same space due to higher density.
If both cars were
Mehnat ki hai bhai video pe👍🏻gud.soon 5m subscribers.all the best
EV haters crying in the corner. 🔥
EVs last longer, are economical and gives more performance. ❤️
Economical 😂
What? a nexon costs 21 lakhs
If thats edonomical for you then go ahead
And running cost is only low till it becomes mainstream
Its going to cost as much as petrol and diesel
Excellent information regarding the EV.. Answered most of my doubts in a single video.. Appreciated bro.. Keep going
Kudos to the MotorOctane team for such great educational videos.
Brilliant analysis Mr. Hirani. ☺️👏 Keep up the good work. Can you please make a video on BMW i4?
Thank you, sir. An informative video, which will be viewed by many for a few years.
Your this video is definitely SOLUTION for many PROBLEMS/DOUBTS...!!!
Thanks a lot for such videos...!!!
All the best and keep it up...!!!
Perfect video, thanks for clearing all myths about electric cars. 🙂
Very nice analysis. What about resale value of EV vehicles?
Fantastic video. Explained each and every point clearly. EV's are the future and the future is already here!
Hello i am a doctor by profession and After consulting twice with motor octane, i bought MG ZS EV 6 months back . Currently happy with my car as i have already completed 30,000 kms in 6 months as my daily commute is 150kms. Not faced any problems till now. Thanks for helping me chose electric car back than.
According to resellers and online used car sellers, doctors don't drive more than 5000km per year. Clearly you are not a doctor.
@@TheFourthWinchester ok
Very extensively covered, and really really helpful in understanding underlying technology and durability of battery packs. Thank you so much for this super detailed video on this.
I bought an ICE car this month and not an electric car because of reasons entirely separate from the ones covered in this video. Most of my reasons come down to, in my opinion, the extremely low charging speeds of the EVs that cost below 25 lakhs.
1) Even if you consider DC fast charging, the Nexon EV Max can charge at a measly 50 kW speed and it will take an hour to charge up from 0% to 80%. An entire hour of charging cannot compete with the quick 3 minute fuel up on an ICE car.
2) If I'm going on a very long trip, I don't want to make my family wait around for an hour when we don't want to just because the car needs it. The car should be serving us, we should not be servants to the car.
3) The comparisons of ICE vs Electric vehicles on RUclips either never take into consideration this time wasted on charging or play it off as time we can spend with our family eating at a restaurant near the fast charging station. Well, this sort of forces us into breaks when we might not want one and also forces us to dine at a restaurant near a charging station. With an ICE car I can just go visit whichever restaurant or dhaba I want and not worry about the needs of my car.
4) There is a difference of nearly 5 lakhs between the feature equivalent variants of the petrol Nexon and the Nexon EV. That difference is simply too high to justify especially considering that buying this EV comes with the additional time commitment I previously mentioned. You may earn lost money back but you will never get back lost time.
5) Now if you say that most people go on long trips once in 3 months or so and can tolerate this time lost and they mostly use their cars for daily work commute then you still can't ignore the massive price difference over the petrol car equivalent. Most estimates on RUclips say that your running would have to be really high for you to break even on the cost of an EV vs a petrol equivalent over a 5 year period. Keep in mind the money you "save" by not spending on an EV can be invested too and then breaking even with an EV becomes even more challenging.
6) Charging at home isn't as cheap as it is made out to be. If you charge on your home meter then you are driving up your unit usage and you end up paying more for using the power hungry appliances at your home as well like ACs, microwaves, fridges, PCs etc.
7) The EVs that are available below 25 lakhs are not born electric. They started as ICE cars and the chassis was slightly modified to fit a battery. This means the chassis was not designed with a battery in mind and the use of space for the battery is not at all optimal. It should be possible to have a sub 4 metre car with a skateboard platform that can fit a battery larger than the 40 kWh one in the EV Max. Furthermore, with time and advancements in technology this battery should become cheap enough and charge fast enough that we can have that 0% to 80% charge time to be under 15 minutes in our sub 25 lakh cars. The charging infrastructure also needs to improve big time not just in quantity but also quality. 250 kW chargers should become the only chargers worth calling as fast chargers, 50 kW chargers can't be seriously called "fast", even today.
8) It is absolutely worth waiting for the above technological advancements and infrastructure improvements while saving our money and buying ICE cars. Right now Tata and Mahindra are the only players in the budget EV scene and frankly Tata is dominating it. Only once competition comes in from Hyundai, Suzuki, Honda, Volkswagen and the other big companies will the consumers start reaping the benefits of more options.
I hope Rachit addresses these points also. The points covered in this video were honestly low-hanging fruit and very easy to address but there are other genuine reasons to stay away from EVs in India for the time being.
Perfect points bhai.. I agree with you.. I don't know why Rachit is blindly supporting it?
Same brother financially speaking it would take an ev around 10 yrs with 1000km monthly driving to break even. Then you can just resell ur Ice and buy the then advanced electric tech available.
@@aurobindamishra9353 The Question is -- who will buy a 2nd hand EV????
You did right thing buying ICE car.
@@rupenchaudhuri3070 no one..
Rachit sir , you just fire 🔥🔥🔥 really you are a guru of all cars But i am overly says that you clarify every thing very simple and easy.But I don't know however i am see your all content .when i see your content my all doubts has gone of the all cars .Nice ,nailed it.Go Ahead Rachit sir ❤️👍😍
Hiii Rachit.... Excellent information regarding the EV.... I have one doubt... As u said LFP batteries have a cycle of around 3000 charges if charged from 5% to 100%.... I drive around 84 Km (48% battery) everyday and as soon as i reach home i put my car on charging.... So my question is how many charging cycles my car battery can possibly reach....??? @MotorOctane
more than 6000 cycles
Suuuperb 🤟❤️ nice 👍 information ℹ️❤️
A Diesel Is A Diesel Is A Diesel🗿
Diesel is vin Diesel ⛽
@@Lohitangtripathy2003❤
Yes yes and yes definitely
Arrey kehna kya chahte ho 😂😂😂
Pollution is a Pollution, Pollution is a Hazards to Health
Anti Ev lobby will keep on trying propogating myths and rumours such a big youtuber channel like u will definately help the world to become world greener and help all of us to breathe more fresh and clean air hats off for ur efforts 🎉🎉❤
Extremely informative video on EV battery !
Thank you for clarifying lots of doubts for EV cars !
This is very very honest and well explained video for those who are switching from combustion to an EV
Very good effort by you and your team..
वो क्या है ना हिन्दुस्तानी आदमी की आदत है पहले इस्तेमाल karo फिर विश्वास karo 😜😜
Did not expect an Indian youtuber to actually be this right about EVs. Kudos. The main problem of EVs in India is the pathetic battery capacity, high costs and no fast charging. Won't even consider what you're getting on MG, Hyundai, Tata, etc as fast charging. Tata especially is awful. And companies like Citroen is using air cooled batteries which will die quicker.
Not to mention the dreaded HV critical battery issue on Tata cars and Tata's notorious service.
Nice video sir. Really informative video for a new buyer or confused like me.
Good video
But still 3 disadvantage
That's cooling, low Range and fast charging
An electric car should have a cooling system like a gaming pc/phone
Minimum range should be 400-500kms per charge
We've seen now fast charging a mobile 0-100 in 10min without heating mobile(like OnePlus/Vivo/oppo) heating will transfer in charging brick
We can implement this type of system then electric cars will improve
already has better cooling than gaming PC and phone
gaming pc still uses fans
EV uses ethylene glycol for liquid cooling system with radiator and chiller
Very well explained Rachit, you articulated it well
You wrote " Indu " in the title rather than " India "
battery 8 year ki factory warranty ke saath aati hai.. kya battery ki warranty extend ho sakti hai ?? agar hoti hai toh kitne years ki hoti hai aur cost kitni lagegi ??
Hi Rachit.... A brilliant video with the detailing.
I have got to believe and have seen that the temperature of the battery depends on the weather.. like in the humidity (Summer)... The battery world get really really hot which could lead to an exploration... In the winters the battery dies because of the cold wave....hence reducing the left of the battery even further What are your thoughts on this...
Regards
Not a problem for liquid cooled batteries. Just buy a car which has around 50kWH battery.
This is the best video ever ! I really have a lot of doubts clarified. I think the insurance question should be addressed in detail and that should help complete the thought.
Please share byd atto 3 review also
Very well explained , but there is a lot of work still needs to be done in terms of adapting to ev infrastructure in India, take an example of CNG , its been around 20 years since CNG has been implemented, but still today not all the pumps are having that CNG facilities , I see vehicles standing in large numbers in pumps to get the CNG refilled.., also not to forget with fast chargers the charging time is 45 mins min.., and with regular chargers the avg time is around 6-8 hours, yes ev's save money but there will be an added burden of not only charging it but charging it on time so that it should be good to go to the next day , if forgot to charge then take a 🚖.., unlike petrol / diesel cars ,
Regarding the number of fire catches in petrol cars vs ev's , the number is higher in petrol car because the majority of people are still using ICE cars as compared to ev's, which are relatively new..
the fire stats are per 1lakh cars, not absolute numbers
for example if 1 million EVs are on the road, then only 250 caught fire (25 EVs per 100K cars)
same way, if 1529 ICE cars caught fire per 100K cars, then the actual fire cases of ICE cars over say 100million ICE cars would be 15,29,000
to adjust for the disparity in the number of EVs and ICE, we use per 1000 or per 10k or per 100k figures like used here
you can also use percentage, its essentially same as percetage
Bhai fast chargers are more in India than a petrol pump bhai u live in India right 😂😂 there is no more range anxiety in India and it is growing @ 10 times as lot of private companies have come up
@@shresthsonkar9207 ok, but what about those cases where ICE cars caught fire because of LPG or CNG ? Do they count as under ICE car fire data as well ,i guess it will count under ICE cars only.., if they do then the stat is not correct because in most cases the fire is caught in the vehicles running on CNG or LPG ...
@@prashwin0917 bro I definitely live in India , like you do.., but its very important to have some knowledge before writing anything.., having a fast chargers is different thing and having a charging stations is different .., you can't charge your vehicle with your chargers alone..., and if you are trying to say that fast chrging stations are more than petrol pumps in India.., then I think you are an Idiot.., bs bkchodi krne aaye ho yaha.., go to some rural areas, jaha p aaj bhi electricity nahi h.., and in developed cities you can find charging stations easily but in semi urban areas.., it is still a concern.., and fast chargers bhi take around 45 mins .., and if those stations already has some ev's lined up fir kya krega bhaii.., khada rhio 2 ghnte fast charger leke 🤣😂.., and also there are some cases jaha 20% battery me logo ki cars bilkul band pdd gyi h , so uss situation if u r with family the what would you do ? Fast charger leke ghoomta rhega kya ? 🤣😂 , offce se aake car charging p lgani bul gaya to agle din boss ko kya bolega ki battry low thi car ki isiliye late ho gaya , ya leve lega ya cab krke aayega .., b sensible man...
@@mayank.007 tu cycle chala na petrol na ev tere liye best he tu gadha he in simple word gadhe ke aage bin Baja ke koi fayda nahi 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Such a detailed and doubt clearing video. As always spot on and great video 😊
Very nice video.. just missed one very important point which is EV charge anxiety which leads to more charge cycles in less number of days and thereby decreasing the 12.5 years of battery life to 8 years. Hence, companies are giving max 8 years of warranty on the battery pack
There is one more point you mentioned petrol car running cost as Rs 10-12 per km which is highly exaggerated. For a nexon, it shouldn’t be more than Rs 8 per km.
You also didn’t cover the difference between purchase price of an electric car and a petrol car. For a nexon, the difference between top models is Rs 6 lakhs.
You also didn’t talk about the resale value of EVs which is much lower than petrol cars currently.
I am using Nexon EV Max… performance is excellent. Daily run is 150Km. I am getting 320 to 340 km range.
At what speed? AC on?
There few points I would like shed some lights on
1. The charging cycle example is kind of misleading as you don't fully zero the car than charge it to full, it's around 20-30% and than charge it to full or 80-90% hence charging cycle will be around 100-150 cycles per year for 50km/day and will be around 200-250 for 100km/day.
2. Secondly given the Indian hot weather condition I still have my doubts on battery capacity holding around 85-90% or usable even after 8 years when used to extended period of time, given all the EV data are from the countries with cold climate which doesn't effect the battery as much even if they get hot.
3. Yes companies are giving warranty of 8 years but people often sale their cars after 8-10 years only and without warranty and high cost of insurance the resale value of car would take a big hit with already initial price gap of 3-5 lakhs. So saving on EV could eventually be cancelled out.
- Lastly it was a great video MotorOctane you have cleared almost 90-95% of the doubt on EV batteries for all people.
Hey Nitin
1. Even if you look at 250 - it is still 3 lakh kms.
2. Battery drains charge fast in cold more than heat. It depends on how do you drive, charge your car to retain your battery percentage.
Battery degradation happens mostly when the charge level is near the extremes (0-15% and 85-100%). Avoiding such charge levels is actually better for the lifespan. The estimated no. of total charge cycles is calculated with a full depth of discharge but if the extreme charge levels are avoided then the total number of charge cycles increases
first time watching your video. very informative and awesome explaination. you earned a follower and subscriber.
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Good detailed info👏. I think things are made worse by incompetent sales & service folks. Currently I am in the market to buy an EV, the sales guys of different showrooms provided contradictory info on the same model! Not to speak of different manufactures. And the service department is also failing the EV owners big time (as apparent from the comments)
We went to Goa last week and stayed in Le meridian hotel and there we saw very less charging stations for the EV cars… so not sure how we can buy these EV cars
Wondering how are the two connected? Did you search for them through any app?
If you just want to brag about the hotel this is not the place😂
Literally more than a dozen chargers in Goa itself
Village utopia cottage (palolem beach)
Radisson Blu
Hotel Season
Taj hotel and resort
Taj cicade
Blu resorts
Hotel Zone
Hotel Bloom Suites
Hotel Treehouse
The park hotel
Park Inn
Hotel Candolim
These are just the hotels, not counting restaurants and miscellenous chargers all over Goa
@@prithvirajmannur2775I bought a EV. Don't buy one. You will regret it too
@@shresthsonkar9207 EVs are for educated people. Pls sell it and buy diesel, it's more of your level
Goodwork Guyz. It's Always Worth Watching Your Content. Crisp & Clear Information.
Your audience is already well informed about the price of the battery. 8.5lakhs is a lot of money to replace the battery (Nexon)
Even if it gets cheaper it will still be in lakhs.
Audience is informed about the price - not the life of EV battery 🤣
Do you know the price of a petrol engine? So many cars have failed petrol engines.
Ecosport engine rebuild costs 3L, mere mamaji ki 3y old ecosport got engine rebuilt from his own pocket since company cited some BS reasons for failure which was not covered under warranty (this is around 2015-16)
Unlike engines, All EVs will have to replace their batteries whether in 12 years or 25. And that will affect the resale value significantly.
No one is going to buy a 15 year old Nexon with a range of 80-100kms. They will have to replace the battery.
8.5 lakh for battery? Who gave you that information? Tata or Elon Musk.
@@hiteshlalwani8039 but why resale it? Replace battery after 10 yrs and car is new again. Battery technology is changing much faster than ICE. 10 years is a small period for any significant change in petrol or diesel engines but After 10 yrs one would be getting much better batteries, technology wise to replace the old ones, so for me a use EV with new battery is a better value than a used ICE car with same or even replaced engine.
Great video by motoroctane👍👌👌
No faisal khan harm in this video 😂........
He criticised NMC a lot😂
Ass of the highest order😂😂😂😂😂
Motoroctane really good video, people have a lot of misunderstandings regarding vehicle batteries and to explain to someone is painful. I recently attended an ev show and in Q and A there were battery questions and to explain them was pain.if someone says anything regarding battery will show them your video.
Advantages=♾️
Disadvantages= 0.....😂😂
In our industry we call that an IDEAL THING (the thing which does not exist).....
This video isn’t to talk about goods and bass - it’s clarify EV battery doubts
@@motoroctane thank you for the reply......😁😁.
Thank you so much Rachit Bhaiyya. This video is an eye opener. You guys are doing a tremendous work by clearing the doubts without any cost.
Dear Rachit, please add your research to identify the opensource tools and technologies that we can use our self to diagnose the BMS and ECU related issue by connecting the OBD ports. that helps to remove the dependency of service scenter loot.
Also one session is required to explain the tips and tricks on fast chargers. simple hacks can save you on emergency situations and troubleshooting.
Cleared a lot of doubts for me, still some remaining, but very well done 👌🏼
what doubts remaining, I can answer (nexon EV prime 2021 11k km)
@@shresthsonkar9207 what about resale
@@pratyayamrit007 I'd ask you counter question,
what are will be resale price of BS6 E10 due to E20 in future?
What will be resale of diesel cars amid the fact that the goverment has been presented with proposal to ban diesel vehicles in 1M+ populated cities
What will be the resale value of so called "best of both worlds" hybrids when their battery doesn't even have cooling system in hot country like India and the avg hybrid battery completes 2-3 cycles per day due to small capacity?
There is no certainity about anything, not even about the fact whether we will live to see another day or not, daresay. So I don't see how this is an "EV PROBLEM" and not a general uncertainity which affects every car
You can use OBDII to check battery health status of any EV so it would be very transparent to second hand buyer to check how good the EV is
The more the health the more the resale. The only thing that may affect resale is changing technology.
Like let’s say rn only Nexon EV max gets 50kW dc charging but in future Tata may give that to normal Nexon EV prime also which currently only gets 25kW dc charging.
In this scenario, the price will fall for those EVs since they lack features that new EVs at their price point will have
Or let’s say Nexon gets adas in next generation acc to rumours then also prices will fall since a big feature will be missing from current gen compared to future gen.
Hi Rachit. Thanks for such informative videos. I have one question very specific to the services. I was stranded in jungle yesterday in my ICE car after clutchplate was broken and that left gear lever stuck. Luckily i was able to get help from the locals who had knowledge of such ice vehicles. I know there was an option of roadside assistance. But i have seen waiting period is over 3-4 hours. Even for my electric two wheeler. While i was stationary at jungle in ghats. How much does it take for everyone to understand this complex machine? Also my another question is, we have to go to same dealers and authorize service centers only to maintain the warranty. But end up paying more than the actual cost as the service providers are limited. Do you see any progress in service providers network being extended to all over india?
From an engineering point of view(and someone who has built racing EVs), electric vehicles are much much much simpler than an internal combustion engine which have hundreds of moving parts. In an ev you basically have 3 major components - motor, controller and battery system. In due time we will have more service stations for electric vehicles than we have for ICE enginers.
How to calculate average for electric vehicles , please thanks
Nice viedos
Appreciate your work🙌🙌🙌
My neighbours Nexon EV's battery has been already changed 3 times in 50k kms. Imagine what will happen after warranty 😂
Each battery costs more than 8.5 lakhs
Are you sure? Doesn’t seem possible. There are many petrol and diesel cars where engine is changed in the first few thousand kms - that doesn’t mean all engines will be bad.
3 times seems exaggerated. People have competed more than a lakh kms in the Nexon EV with no such issues. Only a handful had their batteries changed and that too only once. I'm sure this would make news cause everyone likes to bash EVs.
@@sambitranjan9584 Battery has multiple cells arranged into modules
entire battery is not changed, only faulty modules are
Mere pass bhi naxon ev hai 15k chal gayi hai kuch problem nahi ayi hai or mujhe umidh hai 1.5 lack bhi ache se cahl jayenghi kuch car me falut aa sakta hai
@@shresthsonkar9207 yes they don't know anything
Hi, it's really a very informative vedeo, I would like to ask you just 1 thing. If my electric car is not driven for a long time, will the batree get discharged staying at 1 place unused??.
Nops
The biggest issue that wasn't touched upon is the criteria of application for defective or degraded battery replacement under warranty. Whether use it or not they will deteriorate naturally just like a mobile phone. Still 8 years of decent service life can be expected albeit with falling range with falling year. For me until 2030 EV doesn't make sense, government and ev lobbies won't allow for strong Hybrids which is the best option without worrying about poor charging infrastructure and range anxiety, so petrol ICE is the best option in petrol version
Good job guys.. very nicely and simple way of explaining. Keep it this way only👍
When i heard about Ev.. The 1st thing comes in my Mind is car for Gay people😂😂😂
Lol rimac porsche evs left the chat
Cmon kiddo grow up 😂😂
ye kiska baccha kho gaya hai aake le jao
@@claytonvictoria676 Porsche Ice engines 🥰🥰
Don't worry soon all the so called men will be turned to gays...
Very nice
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Helpfull video....
Electric car ko lekr jo confusion tha wo dur ho gya
This is a propaganda piece for electric cars.
It’s a bit weird to get such an answer - these are maximum questions asked on car electric battery. We have answered that
You sound like an illiterate.
so if the video answers genuine doubt that ppl had, then its propaganda
when the fqacts don't align with your opinions, its propaganda
how convenient
Ur comment seems more like a propaganda because u r providing no proof or facts
@@shresthsonkar9207 What facts? Do u just blindly trust anybody? Don’t trust me either, do your own research. Think!
Best video On yt till date
Hats off for ur hardwork
Nice video. Thanks for insight. Just a note, it’s Lithium Ion, not Lithium Iron.
best and necessary video so far... battery life is necessary...
Very useful video. Thanks Rachit.
Excellent Explanation !
Technical presentation also Superb.
Keep it up ! Good luck.
Beautifully done bus aapne Indian climate condition ke hisaab se nmc main kya disadvantage ho sakta hai
Good different video .. everyone justcreviews cars . Good to see someone going for battery too
Wonderful efforts. I'm looking for this kind video about the electronic car for long time.
Please make some efforts in halving the price of EVs also. Thanks for promoting EVs.
Very nice video and very well explained, My cousin has ZSEV and i like to drive it very much. the power and performance is very good. I love it.
How gratefully EXPLAIN BY YOU SIR.❤
Many valid points, but if the Km maths was so simple why Companies won't provide warrenty on that figure?
Sir aapka videos sab dekha tha tab hi mene nexon ev li Hai aur aaj e video dekh ke ho raha Hai mene nexon ev li Hai bahut acha kiya Hai
Hats off to Rachit and team❤
You gyus are terrific and so humble❤
Best video regarding Electric vehicles and Bettery worries of many potential buyers. These car makers should pay you a bomb for this video.
Very Useful Information. Thank You Rachit..👍
very nice detailed explained
Great information, analysis and break down. Thank you very much🙏🙏🌼🌼
Hi Rachit,
It was a wonderful video with great insight about car batteries, however you missed to clarify on one point i.e. “Battery Shelf life”. You emphasised on battery cycles but not considered the shelf life which also deteriorates the battery life.
E.g. A battery kept unused for couple of years can be deteriorated and the life cycle can be low.
So with the above point, I would be very happy if you can cover it in your next video related to EV or car batteries.
Thank you very much for your special and amazing videos all the time!!😊
Best suggestion and reality you shown to people who don't no about reality of ev and how many profit from ev