Rancid - And out come the wolves. Its got the songs, the attitude, the credibility etc. Its not too polished but doesn't sound like crap either. The songwriting and storytelling is top notch. 10/10.
I know there is punk albums with more street cred from bands like The Exploited, Crass, Subhumans etc but you'd be hard pressed to find a better collection of songs on one album. Best punk album of all time IMO.
Operation Ivy and Agent Orange should have been on that list. Energy and Living in Darkness, and honestly This is the Voice, have no weak songs really.
I bought 'Never Mind The Bollocks' the year after it came out. My father heard it and broke the album. It taught me two things - that music really can upset people and create emotions, and that I was going to love Sex Pistols until the end of time. This is real punk, and is the best punk album ever.
Lol, I remember the first time I heard it, about 25 years ago, when I was a teenager in the early 2000s. I thought it was hilarious, cracked me up, they were clearly taking the piss. I know it made a lot of people mad at the time, I guess they didn’t see the humour in it.
One thing I noticed with a lot of those punk bands, especially those from the 90s and the 2000s, they have ridiculously talented bass players and line writers. Rancid, RKL, Lagwagon, Face to Face, Hot Water Music, etc...
@@anarcho-savagery2097 I’m part “Normie” and been fucking with Discharge for years and all other crust punk d beat bands. First band was Dissasixoate imperfect world when I was 11. I know my shit and fluent when it comes to it.
Yeah it's a great album. Johnny Rotten's vocals are an acquired taste, but Steve Jones, Glen Matlock and Paul Cook were a magic combination. Thankfully Sid Vicious didn't do any of the writing, and very little of the recording
Rotten's vocals were fairly unique. But added an extra flavour to the band. In the same way that Iggy, Klaus Dinger from Neu and Malcom Moody and Damo Suzuki from Can added a unique style to their respective bands. Jones, Cook and Matlock were all talented musicians. Lyndon and Matlock great songwriters.
Didn't enjoy the Stooges disrespect, but 'Raw Power' certainly shouldn't be on the 25 greatest PUNK albums. Having said that, Stooges shit all over everything else on this list.
@ayeb0ss Actually, I'd go back farther to 1964 and say that, musically, The Sonics are the first punk band. Especially The Witch, Psycho, and Strychnine.
The Clash suffers from a weird thing where their music, especially their early stuff, is so steeped in late 70s and early 80s British politics that if youre not at least somewhat aware of the political climate, you dont get as much out of it as you can. Im also probably the biggest Clash fan under 30, so Im biased, but imo it's kind of a 'The Beatles suck' type thing
{ALSO THE BIGGEST CLASH FAN UNDER 30 HERE} Agreed, the historical dimension of the band is something that the majority of listeners (at least now) aren’t prepared for or interested in. The sound and sonic quality is also a funny thing, because it DOES sound dated, but any of the remastered tracks do give more of the timeless feel that all of their fans rave about. Lastly, I think a lot of people are turned off by how British they sound, even without realizing it. It’s The Clash’s biggest paradox since they essentially started playing world music on London Calling. Without getting into that album’s specific musical influences, the global kinds of genres cooked into this record are undeniable. Yet you can’t ignore their British twang in the mix. It really clicks with me, but I can tell that that’s almost like the breaking point for some…
I find Finn's 'I'm too young for this ' comments completely baffling. One of the great joys of getting into music is looking back at what's come before and influenced the contemporary music you like. Why limit yourself to music you remember? The music of your youth is going to resonate most with you of course.
Yep. I was born 1983 and my CD collection spans music from the 1950s all the way through to albums that have only just been released this year. I listen to a lot of music from the 1960s, 70s and 80s, all well before my time. Most of my favourite bands were at their peak in the 1990s, which is the first decade I consider to be “my music” I guess, when I was old enough to be aware of it at the time it was being recorded and released. Great music is timeless and transcends generations.
I was always more into metal than punk and had heard several BR songs, but Process is the album that really got me into them and digging back into the older albums. They basically became one of my favorites more modern punk bands.
I love BR, and Process is solid, but Broken, You Don't Belong, and a couple other tunes are meh at best. It's not Suffer/No Control/Against the Grain level as an album.
How you can say you like Punk and not like the _Never Mind the Bollocks, Here's the Sex Pistols_ album? Pioneering stuff, great songs, influencing bands still to these days.
Also "We have come for your children" by Dead Boys. Set a precedent that just because your a punk band doesn't mean you have to suck at playing instruments. And yes. Green Day, The Offsrping and Toney Hawk pro skater got a lot of people in to the punk scene. But Punk in Drublic was THE album that kept them there.
Who the fuck is saying that about Sex Pistols? Also Dead Kennedy's vocals give it charm and character. Its fucking awesome. Punk isnt supposed to be anything but chaotic and unhinged.
Over the last couple of years a handful of people online have started calling the Pistols a "industry plant" and "fake punk". It's something that people who don't know what they are talking about like to report. They think that it makes them sound smart and edgy.
@@perceivedvelocity9914 It's loads. It's become a kind of "bluff your way into sounding knowledgeable about punk" meme, not realising they are just repeating McLaren's personal rewriting of history to paint himself as the star.
Die Kreuzen debut album often comes to mind when i try to think of a perfect hardcore punk album, might not be for everyone but i think thats a perfect album.
yeah fun house is one of the best album ever (in all categories). don't know why everyone picks raw power over that one. pretty lame list overall. where is subhumans "the day the country died"?
I'm still a bigger fan of The Stooges debut album, but Funhouse is very good, too, and Raw Power has Search And Destroy, with some of the best lyrics ever.
For me personally 'Inflammable Material' by Stiff Little Fingers is missing. All killer, no filler. This album changed so much for me when I discovered it as a teenager
The Clash - London Calling isn't all at the consistently best level, the 2nd half drags especially, but the highs - Rudie Can't Fail, Spanish Bombs, Guns of Brixton, Lost In The Supermarket, and Train In Vain - are so f'n high they are transcendent.
I can think of at least 6 songs on London Calling that are better than Train in Vain. The title track, Spanish Bombs, I'm Not Down, Guns of Brixton, Rudie Can't Fail, Koka Kola...
I've never understood why folk class London Calling as a punk album. It's definitely post-punk. It was where the Clash started to experiment with different genres, the compositions were more complex and the sound... well, more mellow. Their first album was pure punk, pure energy, angry, and a bit rough round the edges, but hell, as a 16 year old when I first put that on the turntable it blew me away. That album should be here, not London Calling.
@MaxWhiteArabiLouisiana the fact that they came right out of the gate with this album is still insane to me. I liked punk before I discovered them, but this album made me fall in love with punk/hardcore.
@MaxWhiteArabiLouisiana I just love their sound but also Jellos lyrics. The humor and the fact that they called out the punk scene itself made me like them even more.
Jello Biafra wrote some of the best lyrics in the genre, his vocals are an acquired taste though, I like to think of him as the Fred Schneider (from The B-52s) of punk
Lots of bands got overlooked here, but ONE in particular really rubs this old punk the wrong way... Unbelievable that Wendy gets dissed OVER AND OVER AGAIN!! Even if an individual person doesn't like the music or the songs, there is still one TRUTH about this particular punk rock band (before they turned into a metal band lol): THE PLASMATICS HANDS DOWN PUT ON THE ABSOLUTE BEST, MOST AMAZING LIVE SHOWS IN THE HISTORY OF ROCK OF ANY KIND!! NO ONE COULD TOUCH THEM THEN, NO ONE CAN TOUCH THEM NOW, AND NO ONE *EVER* WILL! Argue all you like but NOBODY you can possibly name even comes CLOSE!! Wendy was the Ultimate PUNK frontwoman and the band behind her were FAR better musicians than most people realize. So... Without a doubt, NEW HOPE FOR THE WRETCHED should be on this list!!
Lost me from the get go talking about HR’s vocals, then proceeded to talk bad about other legends with killer one of kind vocals. And what does too young for The Damned even mean? How are you too young for any good music. All of these bands are still mentioned for a reason.
"Too young for . . ." is like saying, "I grew up on Metallica so I just can't get into Blue Cheer. Or rockabilly. Or whatever." And yeah, picking maybe the most poorly produced track on Bad Brains in order to knock HR's vocals was fucked up. Can he say the same of The Big Takeover, or Banned in DC? And he must have heard I Against I, I And I Survive, and . . . do I need to go on?
I am sick of “punk” elites hating on nevermind the bollocks. Why do people pretend like its not the best punk album ever made? Its influence went so far beyond punk.
The Clash are obviously really important for the history of punk but I classify them in my head as more of a straight up rock band. Fear is to punk what Kenny Rogers was to psychedelic rock.
The Clash's first album is punk AF. Their later albums were more experimental with a mix of reggae, 50s rock n roll, and even hip hop(Magnificent Seven).
Their style also changes from pop-punk to hardcore so almost every album is different. They have a progressive, left-wing political perspective, which would continue to be a hallmark of Propagandhi’s work. It includes themes of anti-authoritarianism, environmentalism, and pacifism. Excuse me why I go downtown for my IPA.
The fact that a band has their full discography on a list of greatest albums with no skips says a lot Refused were mostly inspired by Born Against, which had a song called “Born Against Are Fucking Dead”, hence their song “Refused Are Fucking Dead”. Their previous album Songs To Fan The Flames Of Discontent was a lot more metallic hardcore and is definitely worth a listen. The Shape Of Punk To Come was more of experimentation to expand the idea of what punk could be as they thought the genre had become stale. It winds up sounding hipster in a way, but it’s fucking awesome
The Germs, G.I. remains my favorite. The balanced mixing of every instrument is on point, Pat Smear plays like a rhythm guitar player in many ways, allowing Lorna Doom's clean, melodic bass playing to shine through, while Don Bolles governs over the rhythm of the album with his machine gun-like drum style. Darby Crash's vocals are certainly controversial, and I understand why many would hate them, and I did hate them when I began listening to the Germs, but the quality of his songwriting reveals that he was a wordsmith, and a poet.
I was in Olympia when they came out, Oly Hardcore Fest was wild for 2 years. GLOSS’s shows were as great as their demo album. (I much prefer their demo to their studio album).
Eternally Yours Is a better album overall. Stranded is one of the best ever punk singles though, but would probably be considered more garage rock by today’s standards.
wow, that Propagandhi rant was weirdly specific, more so than any other critique you had o' other bands. the question (i guess) was does the album really belong on this list, not who are the lame PsOS who would admit to listening to them. there's an unresolved issue buried somewhere under that avalanche o' shite talk mate...
Pennywise and Strung out as the best punk albums of all time? Just no. All of the Fat Wreck skater music from the 90’s needs to be on a separate pop punk list
I love Propagandhi as well but I wouldn't consider them a punk band. I think their first 2 albums are punk the rest move more toward thrash. Not sure they should be on the list. Also Finn's take is pretty on point for him, he's the classic guy who grew up in the scene then turned into a dullard.
Inflammable material by Stiff Little Fingers. Zen arcade by Husker du. Machine gun etiquette by The Damned. And I would have picked a different Bad Brains. Oh, and btw Buzzcocks invented pop punk, the Descendants brought it to America. Oh and (I'm) Stranded by the Saints.
Dislike of the Sex Pistols is probably tied to the myth that's deeply-rooted among many US punks, that the band were effectively a boy-band, created by Malcolm McLarena and a record label to cash in on the punk boom. Anyone wiling to spend five minutes looking into their history would see it's nonsense, but few are.
@@jasonconrad4314 In what way were they a boyband? None of them were 'casted'. Lydon did audition, but that's pretty standard for a band missing a band member. They weren't put together by a record label. They wrote all their own music, and chose their own musical direction. Lydon was the lyricist, so he had talent there, and his vocals were perfect for what they did. Cook was a decent drummer, and certainly wasn't in the band for any 'image' he had, as he was without doubt their most anonymous member, as well as being in the band from the start. They weren't even put together my McLaren. They asked him to manage them.
@@RevStickleback I have dug deep enough into Sex Pistols history & what you say is both complete and correct. John Lydon as just a random plugin to round out the lineup is absurd. John is as real as it gets. Even now…
Against the Grain by Bad Religion was the first punk album I owned and it's still my favorite to this day. Does anyone agree or am I just being nostalgic?
They were one of the first bands to make riff based, melodic punk. Songs where an instrumental hook with its own identity drove the bulk of the song, rather than following the vocal melody or showing up briefly in the margins. Even to this day the list of punk bands that consistently did it well is pretty short.
I agree on Bad Religion. Back in the days, there was this saying here in Germany that BR only have two songs: The fast one and the slow one. I would say that Suffer and The Grey Race only have one weak song respectively. The Clash´s London Calling is one of these albums which I wanted to listen to for decades. But I never made it. Maybe today? Refused: Some songs on this album is great. "New Noise" is among my favourite songs of the 1990s. But most of the songs on this album are just mid to bad. Sick of It All: I would choose "Scratch the Surface".
With Refused, I think the main thing about that album is that their intentionally chaotic timing wizardry became an important element in hardcore, post hardcore, and melodic punk to a lesser degree. Making weird mid-bar transitions, and using double time punk beats to bounce around different time signatures is something you really didnt hear until after Shape of Punk, and it went on to define whole genre's.
There's a reason we choose to WATCH, YOU, talk about this stuff and not read the article. For me, it has genuinely helped me have an actual person talk about music with their own opinion on it. With how much you know about all of the genres I'm getting into recently, and being someone who has been in the scene since you were younger, I personally appreciate you and your content. Screw the haters. I'd be alot less further along in my musical journey if it weren't for people like you, fantano, brad, and more.
As far as Loudwire lists usually go that was pretty solid. I am a little surprised to see Bad Religion and NoFX on that list but not Pennywise though. Their self titled, Unknown Road or About Time could have all been on there.
Full Circle, Straight Ahead, and Land of the Free? are just as good as those you mentioned. PW was easily and honestly the most consistent punk band of 90s when it came to releasing quality albums. Literally all of them are great.
FEAR The Record is the only FEAR album I like, but there is something so fucking hilarious and anti-social about their lyrics. Anybody who has lived in a proper major city can have a laugh about Livin In The City's lyrics to some extent. The concept of just saying "THERE'S TOO MANY OF US" 20 times then screaming "LETS HAVE A WAR" is just so on the nose, anti-social, and comedy. Then the ridiculous sax solo in New York's Alright is so fucking intentionally bad. It's just a classic ridiculous album.
Spot on about Jello Biafra, I've been a DK fan since the 80's, a friend in high school introduced me to them along with The Circle Jerks, DRI, Corrosion of Conformity, the Crumbsuckers, the Meatmen as well as a bunch of other bands.
I think Career Suicide should be on the list. I think it's the best Wilhelm Scream album, the bass is on par with Matt Freeman's own playing, it's a no-skip album, and all the songs are really catchy.
Rancid - And out come the wolves Offspring - Smash Nofx - Punk in Drublic Misfits - Static Age Black flag - My war The clash - London calling Best punk albums.
Bad Brains is dope. Honestly their self titled album and I against I are by far their best work. Love Re-ignition to death and Right Brigade is fucking stellar. Hardcore punk at its best.
You said it on Minor Threat ! That was my intro to hardcore punk in the 80s . And what a band to start me off into that scene as a kid ! All great songs that still hold up today if you ask me . Top notch .
The damned are so badass. I cannot fathom how Finn "can't" listen to older music. I don't think he actually likes music. Buzzcocks should be on the list. Prop is from Winnipeg, nothing like the way you described their fans 😂
I am flabbergasted that Subhumans isn't anywhere on this list either, but I have a feeling he would go on a rant about TDTCD that I wouldn't agree with haha
ya he seems to just not care to listen to bands before his time. lots of 70's/80's bands that didn't make the list (and that finn probably doesn't know much about) - buzzcocks, wire, jam, mission of burma, crass, husker du, patti smith, no means no, wipers, the ex (netherlands), disciplina kicme (serbia/yugoslavia), rites of spring, dickies, maybe even velvet underground
There is not 1 bad song on the first Dead Boys album. It should be on there. You are right. I am a big Dolls and Thunders fan. But maybe they consider it more proto-punk. But on the other hand they have The Stooges on there so who knows.
As a kid getting into punk rock in the 90s. The Clash didn't particularly stick out as what I liked about Punk. However, old punkers would reiterate how important they were to the kids that were part of the first wave scene. Maybe you just had to be there. 🤷
How can you not include The Misfits and The Circle Jerks on a list like this? Also… if you’re gonna include Rollins era Black Flag then I’d go with My War.
Is Glow On by Turnstile considered a punk album? I’ve always been a metal guy, but when that album came out a few years ago it got me to delve into more punk rock and hardcore.
Guttermouth recently toured australia. Got me thinking to what they'd actually play, let alone in australia where venues have cancelled shows for artists not going with the "current thing".
Rancid - And out come the wolves. Its got the songs, the attitude, the credibility etc. Its not too polished but doesn't sound like crap either. The songwriting and storytelling is top notch. 10/10.
Great album and is one that got my oldest daughter into punk and hardcore
Indeed I do wholeheartedly concur
I know there is punk albums with more street cred from bands like The Exploited, Crass, Subhumans etc but you'd be hard pressed to find a better collection of songs on one album. Best punk album of all time IMO.
This album stays in my playlist rotation
@@alexanderkantakusiniii8411 I can't disagree
Operation Ivy and Agent Orange should have been on that list. Energy and Living in Darkness, and honestly This is the Voice, have no weak songs really.
No Agent Orange. 😭😭😭😭😭😭⚰️⚰️⚰️⚰️⚰️⚰️⚰️⚰️ grim
Agent Orange always seems like it gets left out when there's discussions about punk rock and they shouldn't whatsoever
Living in darkness is a masterpiece. Rodney Bingenheimer put their music on air within an hour of hearing their tape.
Operation ivy is ska
@@daoust26 Ska Punk
I bought 'Never Mind The Bollocks' the year after it came out. My father heard it and broke the album. It taught me two things - that music really can upset people and create emotions, and that I was going to love Sex Pistols until the end of time. This is real punk, and is the best punk album ever.
Oh I guess U heard the b sides , 👍
My first never mind the bollock
In record cassete tape buy in 1980
44 years only punk music my best
Lol, I remember the first time I heard it, about 25 years ago, when I was a teenager in the early 2000s.
I thought it was hilarious, cracked me up, they were clearly taking the piss. I know it made a lot of people mad at the time, I guess they didn’t see the humour in it.
My Dad did the same thing to my sisters "Nevermind" cassette.
100%
The Misfits - Walk Among Us is probably one of the best.
better than MGK?!1!
@@kostaroasta ignore that guy. It's obvious he's a poser.
One thing I noticed with a lot of those punk bands, especially those from the 90s and the 2000s, they have ridiculously talented bass players and line writers. Rancid, RKL, Lagwagon, Face to Face, Hot Water Music, etc...
Not Sid Vicious though
How can Walk Among Us not be on here
Because it's gay.
You are
@@DowStUnD86 so am I. Is that why I like the Misfits so much?
@@Crit_Hit I don't know mate. So am I.
Static age is better than walk among us, even though it's not technically an "album"
Where is Discharge " hear nothing see nothing say nothing "?
On a different list.
It's too heavy for the normie hard core listeners.
@@anarcho-savagery2097hell yeah d-beat
@@BigDannyDangus in crust we trust \m/
@@anarcho-savagery2097 I’m part “Normie” and been fucking with Discharge for years and all other crust punk d beat bands. First band was Dissasixoate imperfect world when I was 11. I know my shit and fluent when it comes to it.
The Damned’s flawless album is Machine Gun Etiquette.
*Kelly
The Damned were probably the most influential 1st wave punk band since they heavily influenced both hardcore and goth as well as 77 style
Such a raw album some fast gems
@@chrisold97yup
I love Damned, Damned Damned too
I'm glad u point out that Sex Pistols album is great, the whole narrative of them being bad just cuz a manager put them together is so dumb lol
And false anyway.
Yeah it's a great album. Johnny Rotten's vocals are an acquired taste, but Steve Jones, Glen Matlock and Paul Cook were a magic combination. Thankfully Sid Vicious didn't do any of the writing, and very little of the recording
Rotten's vocals were fairly unique. But added an extra flavour to the band. In the same way that Iggy, Klaus Dinger from Neu and Malcom Moody and Damo Suzuki from Can added a unique style to their respective bands.
Jones, Cook and Matlock were all talented musicians. Lyndon and Matlock great songwriters.
Why does Lagwagon never get love?? Trashed, Lets Talk About Feelings, Hoss, Blaze?? All their music is masterclass...
I agree. I'm on the wagon for sure. Plus, their last two LPs show no sign of slowing down.
True. I love trashed but I'd have to say that let's talk about feelings is the one where I dont skip any songs.
I think HANG is not only their best album, but one of the best punk rock albums of all time.
If they didn't stuff those rediculous cover songs into those albums they mihht get a mention.
@@xwhite2020 everything turns grey was good though. It's on the best album too so, invalid point.
Didn't enjoy the Stooges disrespect, but 'Raw Power' certainly shouldn't be on the 25 greatest PUNK albums. Having said that, Stooges shit all over everything else on this list.
@ayeb0ss Actually, I'd go back farther to 1964 and say that, musically, The Sonics are the first punk band. Especially The Witch, Psycho, and Strychnine.
To each their own, but not having Walk Among Us on here just feels wrong.
Yeah. It’s crazy.
@@Devitciiu The Misfits give him nightmares.
12 Hits From Hell > Walk Among Us
@@CABHC You can't go wrong with any of the Danzig era Misfits albums.
The Clash suffers from a weird thing where their music, especially their early stuff, is so steeped in late 70s and early 80s British politics that if youre not at least somewhat aware of the political climate, you dont get as much out of it as you can.
Im also probably the biggest Clash fan under 30, so Im biased, but imo it's kind of a 'The Beatles suck' type thing
{ALSO THE BIGGEST CLASH FAN UNDER 30 HERE}
Agreed, the historical dimension of the band is something that the majority of listeners (at least now) aren’t prepared for or interested in. The sound and sonic quality is also a funny thing, because it DOES sound dated, but any of the remastered tracks do give more of the timeless feel that all of their fans rave about. Lastly, I think a lot of people are turned off by how British they sound, even without realizing it. It’s The Clash’s biggest paradox since they essentially started playing world music on London Calling. Without getting into that album’s specific musical influences, the global kinds of genres cooked into this record are undeniable. Yet you can’t ignore their British twang in the mix. It really clicks with me, but I can tell that that’s almost like the breaking point for some…
Give 'Em Enough Rope NOT London Calling.
I watch the morning uploads while I’m getting ready for work, thanks Finn for making my mornings better 👍
Same here, I’m getting ready for work right now lol.
Same but his videos usually drop as I am opening up at my job. It definitely helps my morning go smoother.
So we all just on our way to work/opening up our work place? Glad we humans share processes lmao
I find Finn's 'I'm too young for this ' comments completely baffling. One of the great joys of getting into music is looking back at what's come before and influenced the contemporary music you like. Why limit yourself to music you remember? The music of your youth is going to resonate most with you of course.
Yep. I was born 1983 and my CD collection spans music from the 1950s all the way through to albums that have only just been released this year.
I listen to a lot of music from the 1960s, 70s and 80s, all well before my time.
Most of my favourite bands were at their peak in the 1990s, which is the first decade I consider to be “my music” I guess, when I was old enough to be aware of it at the time it was being recorded and released.
Great music is timeless and transcends generations.
Bad Religion Process of Belief is a perfect album. Not a single bad song.
Jip
I think Process peters out toward the end. SUFFER has no misses.
I was always more into metal than punk and had heard several BR songs, but Process is the album that really got me into them and digging back into the older albums. They basically became one of my favorites more modern punk bands.
I love BR, and Process is solid, but Broken, You Don't Belong, and a couple other tunes are meh at best. It's not Suffer/No Control/Against the Grain level as an album.
My favorite song off of the album is broken
Not including *_Suicide_* by Suicide and *_Zen Arcade_* by Hüsker Dü on this list is just...astonishing. Glaring omissions.
@@ursaminorjim He's the master of glaring commissions. He's a poser.
Minor Threat. Out of Step.
Out of Step is on the Complete Discography.
How you can say you like Punk and not like the _Never Mind the Bollocks, Here's the Sex Pistols_ album? Pioneering stuff, great songs, influencing bands still to these days.
This guy finally talking about punk? Holy shit. The world is upside down
Also "We have come for your children" by Dead Boys. Set a precedent that just because your a punk band doesn't mean you have to suck at playing instruments. And yes. Green Day, The Offsrping and Toney Hawk pro skater got a lot of people in to the punk scene. But Punk in Drublic was THE album that kept them there.
Who the fuck is saying that about Sex Pistols? Also Dead Kennedy's vocals give it charm and character. Its fucking awesome. Punk isnt supposed to be anything but chaotic and unhinged.
Over the last couple of years a handful of people online have started calling the Pistols a "industry plant" and "fake punk". It's something that people who don't know what they are talking about like to report. They think that it makes them sound smart and edgy.
@@perceivedvelocity9914 It's loads. It's become a kind of "bluff your way into sounding knowledgeable about punk" meme, not realising they are just repeating McLaren's personal rewriting of history to paint himself as the star.
@@perceivedvelocity9914Like flat earthers..
Die Kreuzen debut album often comes to mind when i try to think of a perfect hardcore punk album, might not be for everyone but i think thats a perfect album.
Fun house is the better stooges album. Missing Discharge, GBH, Agnostic Front
Fun House is my favorite as well.
@@joshabreu1156 He probably doesn't know who any of those bands are.
yeah fun house is one of the best album ever (in all categories). don't know why everyone picks raw power over that one. pretty lame list overall. where is subhumans "the day the country died"?
I'm still a bigger fan of The Stooges debut album, but Funhouse is very good, too, and Raw Power has Search And Destroy, with some of the best lyrics ever.
For me personally 'Inflammable Material' by Stiff Little Fingers is missing. All killer, no filler. This album changed so much for me when I discovered it as a teenager
Please please give London Calling a chance. Listen to it about 5 times the whole way through.
Also, no Misfits on this list is absolutely insane.
The Clash - London Calling isn't all at the consistently best level, the 2nd half drags especially, but the highs - Rudie Can't Fail, Spanish Bombs, Guns of Brixton, Lost In The Supermarket, and Train In Vain - are so f'n high they are transcendent.
Completely agree
Rudie can't fail is one of my favorite songs all time. I heard ot for the first time in grosse point blank funny enough.
Spanish bombs is my favorite clash song. I've never seen anyone besides you mention that song ever ! 👍
Angry Samoans, Back From Samoa is a perfect album.
Misfits, Walk Among Us. Also missing
2 more I'd add:
7 seconds, Walk Together Rock Together
Gorilla Biscuits. Start Today
Angry Samoans did the Guttermouth thing before they were out
Train in vain is definitely the clashs’ best song
Many peoples least favorite
I can think of at least 6 songs on London Calling that are better than Train in Vain. The title track, Spanish Bombs, I'm Not Down, Guns of Brixton, Rudie Can't Fail, Koka Kola...
I've never understood why folk class London Calling as a punk album. It's definitely post-punk. It was where the Clash started to experiment with different genres, the compositions were more complex and the sound... well, more mellow. Their first album was pure punk, pure energy, angry, and a bit rough round the edges, but hell, as a 16 year old when I first put that on the turntable it blew me away. That album should be here, not London Calling.
Dead Kennedys Fresh Fruit for Rotting Vegetables is probably my favorite punk album.
@MaxWhiteArabiLouisiana the fact that they came right out of the gate with this album is still insane to me. I liked punk before I discovered them, but this album made me fall in love with punk/hardcore.
@MaxWhiteArabiLouisiana I just love their sound but also Jellos lyrics. The humor and the fact that they called out the punk scene itself made me like them even more.
The older I get the more I appreciate DK, musically and lyrically
It’s a great album but I think Plastic Surgery Disasters is even better.
Jello Biafra wrote some of the best lyrics in the genre, his vocals are an acquired taste though, I like to think of him as the Fred Schneider (from The B-52s) of punk
Suffer by Bad Religion is my favorite of all time
Their run of Suffer, No Control, Against the Grain, Generator is absolutely GOATed
Finn McKenty making a video about Punk?!? What year is it??? #justiceforMGK
@@thunderstruck560 You just summed it up.
dead kennedys - i think i'd pick 'bedtime for democracy' or 'give me convenience or give me death.' misfits - 'static age' is no skips
Lots of bands got overlooked here, but ONE in particular really rubs this old punk the wrong way...
Unbelievable that Wendy gets dissed OVER AND OVER AGAIN!! Even if an individual person doesn't like the music or the songs, there is still one TRUTH about this particular punk rock band (before they turned into a metal band lol):
THE PLASMATICS HANDS DOWN PUT ON THE ABSOLUTE BEST, MOST AMAZING LIVE SHOWS IN THE HISTORY OF ROCK OF ANY KIND!! NO ONE COULD TOUCH THEM THEN, NO ONE CAN TOUCH THEM NOW, AND NO ONE *EVER* WILL! Argue all you like but NOBODY you can possibly name even comes CLOSE!! Wendy was the Ultimate PUNK frontwoman and the band behind her were FAR better musicians than most people realize. So...
Without a doubt, NEW HOPE FOR THE WRETCHED should be on this list!!
I put it on the list.. F Loudwire.
I agree
10/10 agree on black flag, the second the album cover came on the screen I was like “nah dude, first four years, these people are tripping”
Yeah. I like Damaged but pretty much don't listen to it. First Four Years ftw
Not having that first adolescents album is a crime against humanity!
Absolutely!
Lol, I just listened to that today!
Suicidal Tendencies debut still killer and no filler 🔥🔥🔥
"I think the Bad Brains are a little overrated." FINN, I WILL LITERALLY FISTFIGHT YOU OVER THIS.
Lost me from the get go talking about HR’s vocals, then proceeded to talk bad about other legends with killer one of kind vocals. And what does too young for The Damned even mean? How are you too young for any good music. All of these bands are still mentioned for a reason.
"Too young for . . ." is like saying, "I grew up on Metallica so I just can't get into Blue Cheer. Or rockabilly. Or whatever." And yeah, picking maybe the most poorly produced track on Bad Brains in order to knock HR's vocals was fucked up. Can he say the same of The Big Takeover, or Banned in DC? And he must have heard I Against I, I And I Survive, and . . . do I need to go on?
The first Gwar album is an underrated punk masterpiece.
Amen
Big Facts. Haven't listened to it in forever though. Gotta fix that.
Hell-o was the shit!
Such a great comment! Underrated and not talked about enough album. It’s a no skip album, and often forget about because it’s their only punk album
Yeah ! all So the first COC album
I am sick of “punk” elites hating on nevermind the bollocks. Why do people pretend like its not the best punk album ever made? Its influence went so far beyond punk.
Flipper was a favorite. You might call them proto-Doom. Generic Flipper was a great album.
The Clash are obviously really important for the history of punk but I classify them in my head as more of a straight up rock band.
Fear is to punk what Kenny Rogers was to psychedelic rock.
Nailed it on the Clash. They always seemed more alternative/new wave to me than straight up punk.
@@sollamander2206 Definitely nailed it.
The Clash's first album is punk AF. Their later albums were more experimental with a mix of reggae, 50s rock n roll, and even hip hop(Magnificent Seven).
Propagandhi is punk royalty bro. Canadians understand.
Their style also changes from pop-punk to hardcore so almost every album is different. They have a progressive, left-wing political perspective, which would continue to be a hallmark of Propagandhi’s work. It includes themes of anti-authoritarianism, environmentalism, and pacifism. Excuse me why I go downtown for my IPA.
The Misfits & RAMONES, you can’t go wrong with either of those. The best ❤
The Cramps should be on this list.
Yeah, but do you remember Penny from The Big Bang Theory?
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The fact that a band has their full discography on a list of greatest albums with no skips says a lot
Refused were mostly inspired by Born Against, which had a song called “Born Against Are Fucking Dead”, hence their song “Refused Are Fucking Dead”. Their previous album Songs To Fan The Flames Of Discontent was a lot more metallic hardcore and is definitely worth a listen. The Shape Of Punk To Come was more of experimentation to expand the idea of what punk could be as they thought the genre had become stale. It winds up sounding hipster in a way, but it’s fucking awesome
The Germs, G.I. remains my favorite. The balanced mixing of every instrument is on point, Pat Smear plays like a rhythm guitar player in many ways, allowing Lorna Doom's clean, melodic bass playing to shine through, while Don Bolles governs over the rhythm of the album with his machine gun-like drum style. Darby Crash's vocals are certainly controversial, and I understand why many would hate them, and I did hate them when I began listening to the Germs, but the quality of his songwriting reveals that he was a wordsmith, and a poet.
IMO We Must Bleed is one of the greatest punk songs.
I wouldn’t even know who Gloss Is except a hot Goth girl made me listen to it and now I think it’s the best thing ever.
I was in Olympia when they came out, Oly Hardcore Fest was wild for 2 years. GLOSS’s shows were as great as their demo album. (I much prefer their demo to their studio album).
The Saints:- (I’m) Stranded.
@petertrezise4545 He has no idea who the The Saints are.
Eternally Yours Is a better album overall. Stranded is one of the best ever punk singles though, but would probably be considered more garage rock by today’s standards.
Hardly any of the bands i listened to were on thr list. My opinion the greatest punk rock album is Jello Biafra with D.O.A
Full metal jack off is one of the best songs ever written and Idgf what anyone else thinks.
True. Sex Pistols album is a 10/10 and I stand with you to call “Poser!” To those who disagree
wow, that Propagandhi rant was weirdly specific, more so than any other critique you had o' other bands. the question (i guess) was does the album really belong on this list, not who are the lame PsOS who would admit to listening to them. there's an unresolved issue buried somewhere under that avalanche o' shite talk mate...
No Misfits no Pennywise no Strung out no Exploited no Subhumans no Bold no TSOL, Yup Loudwire is garbage.
Instead of what?every list is a bit subjective
Pennywise and Strung out as the best punk albums of all time? Just no. All of the Fat Wreck skater music from the 90’s needs to be on a separate pop punk list
Strung Out should never be on any list of best punk albums
WTF No Rise Against!?!
Loudwire should be conscripted into the Ukrainian army!!!
The Exploited wouldn't even make the top 25 Edinburgh bands...
“Rancid - Let’s go” is one of the only albums I could put on track one and play through without skipping.
I suppose you haven’t heard propagandhi since their first album. Greatest punk band of all time
My bro got kicked out cause he was so drunk and stripping in portage la prairie. Wild times
I love Propagandhi as well but I wouldn't consider them a punk band. I think their first 2 albums are punk the rest move more toward thrash. Not sure they should be on the list. Also Finn's take is pretty on point for him, he's the classic guy who grew up in the scene then turned into a dullard.
How do you compare them to NOFX. Both great bands but not the same.
Man this just confirms my opinion that we are on the opposite ends of the spectrum punk-wise. I started out with hardcore as well but went backwards.
I haven’t used the word poser in 20 years but I’m feeling it right now
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Inflammable material by Stiff Little Fingers. Zen arcade by Husker du. Machine gun etiquette by The Damned. And I would have picked a different Bad Brains. Oh, and btw Buzzcocks invented pop punk, the Descendants brought it to America. Oh and (I'm) Stranded by the Saints.
Circle Jerks "Group Sex" is pretty damn perfect and is better than at least 4 or 5 of these albums.
“I Don’t Care” transitioning into “Live Fast Die Young” is one of the best pieces of music ever invented in the entire universe.
Agree
The Exploited - The Massacre, Absolute banger, from first track to the end is a total nail in your head💥
Dislike of the Sex Pistols is probably tied to the myth that's deeply-rooted among many US punks, that the band were effectively a boy-band, created by Malcolm McLarena and a record label to cash in on the punk boom. Anyone wiling to spend five minutes looking into their history would see it's nonsense, but few are.
They were still a punk boyband. Glenn and Steve are the only ones that had talent.
@@jasonconrad4314 In what way were they a boyband? None of them were 'casted'. Lydon did audition, but that's pretty standard for a band missing a band member. They weren't put together by a record label. They wrote all their own music, and chose their own musical direction. Lydon was the lyricist, so he had talent there, and his vocals were perfect for what they did. Cook was a decent drummer, and certainly wasn't in the band for any 'image' he had, as he was without doubt their most anonymous member, as well as being in the band from the start. They weren't even put together my McLaren. They asked him to manage them.
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I have dug deep enough into Sex Pistols history & what you say is both complete and correct.
John Lydon as just a random plugin to round out the lineup is absurd.
John is as real as it gets. Even now…
As a feminist, the fact that Kaley Cuoco is the only thing in this video that i'll remember really bothers me.
Strike Anywhere is one of my favorite melodic hardcore bands.
YESSS I got Exit English in 9th grade and it blew my little religious mind. It was amazing. Now I'm not religious and am very bleeding heart.
So glad you called out the retconning of the Sex Pistols. NMTB is one of the greatest albums of all time.
yep The Sex Pistols….in context of the time 1977, there was no one nastier…you can’t get it because you weren’t there….
Never mainstream but a band people with punk cred keep in their back pocket - Turbonegro 'Apocalypse Dudes' is a beginning to end masterpiece.
Jello is just a more punk version of the dude from the B 52's and that isnt a diss.
Against the Grain by Bad Religion was the first punk album I owned and it's still my favorite to this day. Does anyone agree or am I just being nostalgic?
The vocals are what make the Dead Kennedys!!! It weird and different. I love it.
They were one of the first bands to make riff based, melodic punk. Songs where an instrumental hook with its own identity drove the bulk of the song, rather than following the vocal melody or showing up briefly in the margins. Even to this day the list of punk bands that consistently did it well is pretty short.
I agree on Bad Religion. Back in the days, there was this saying here in Germany that BR only have two songs: The fast one and the slow one. I would say that Suffer and The Grey Race only have one weak song respectively.
The Clash´s London Calling is one of these albums which I wanted to listen to for decades. But I never made it. Maybe today?
Refused: Some songs on this album is great. "New Noise" is among my favourite songs of the 1990s. But most of the songs on this album are just mid to bad.
Sick of It All: I would choose "Scratch the Surface".
No misfits,no The exploited,no The subhumans,no Operation Ivy,no The Vandals wtf loudwire??
With Refused, I think the main thing about that album is that their intentionally chaotic timing wizardry became an important element in hardcore, post hardcore, and melodic punk to a lesser degree. Making weird mid-bar transitions, and using double time punk beats to bounce around different time signatures is something you really didnt hear until after Shape of Punk, and it went on to define whole genre's.
Reminder: Finn is a huge scam artist
There's a reason we choose to WATCH, YOU, talk about this stuff and not read the article. For me, it has genuinely helped me have an actual person talk about music with their own opinion on it. With how much you know about all of the genres I'm getting into recently, and being someone who has been in the scene since you were younger, I personally appreciate you and your content. Screw the haters. I'd be alot less further along in my musical journey if it weren't for people like you, fantano, brad, and more.
As far as Loudwire lists usually go that was pretty solid. I am a little surprised to see Bad Religion and NoFX on that list but not Pennywise though. Their self titled, Unknown Road or About Time could have all been on there.
Full Circle, Straight Ahead, and Land of the Free? are just as good as those you mentioned. PW was easily and honestly the most consistent punk band of 90s when it came to releasing quality albums. Literally all of them are great.
Really didn't like pennywise, all their records sounded the same to me.
You’re surprised to see two of best punk bands of all time on a best punk rock albums list?
FEAR The Record is the only FEAR album I like, but there is something so fucking hilarious and anti-social about their lyrics. Anybody who has lived in a proper major city can have a laugh about Livin In The City's lyrics to some extent. The concept of just saying "THERE'S TOO MANY OF US" 20 times then screaming "LETS HAVE A WAR" is just so on the nose, anti-social, and comedy. Then the ridiculous sax solo in New York's Alright is so fucking intentionally bad. It's just a classic ridiculous album.
Fugazi - Repeater should be on that list.
Oooooo, that's my fav FUGAZI record!
The merchandise will keep us in line
Never liked it.
I think NOFX was influenced more by Rich Kids on LSD than Bad Religion. Fat Mike said he wanted to be like RKL.
Spot on about Jello Biafra, I've been a DK fan since the 80's, a friend in high school introduced me to them along with The Circle Jerks, DRI, Corrosion of Conformity, the Crumbsuckers, the Meatmen as well as a bunch of other bands.
It’s alright to have your own opinion on Propagandhi even if it’s wrong.
Propagandhi - Ska Sucks is the first MP3 I ever downloaded from the internet...I still have the original file, Date Modified: July 4 1998
I think Career Suicide should be on the list. I think it's the best Wilhelm Scream album, the bass is on par with Matt Freeman's own playing, it's a no-skip album, and all the songs are really catchy.
Rancid - And out come the wolves
Offspring - Smash
Nofx - Punk in Drublic
Misfits - Static Age
Black flag - My war
The clash - London calling
Best punk albums.
First pennywise should’ve been top 10
Bad Brains is dope. Honestly their self titled album and I against I are by far their best work. Love Re-ignition to death and Right Brigade is fucking stellar. Hardcore punk at its best.
I agree Minor Threat is pure punk hands down. Aside from them I would choose Rancid/Operation Ivy, Misfits, Nofx, Ramones, and The Exploited.
GBH not being on this list is a crime ,they were punks playing speed metal riffs before "crossover" was even a thing.
No subhumans? Ughhhh no Crass? Ughhhhh
You said it on Minor Threat ! That was my intro to hardcore punk in the 80s . And what a band to start me off into that scene as a kid ! All great songs that still hold up today if you ask me . Top notch .
The damned are so badass. I cannot fathom how Finn "can't" listen to older music. I don't think he actually likes music. Buzzcocks should be on the list.
Prop is from Winnipeg, nothing like the way you described their fans 😂
I am flabbergasted that Subhumans isn't anywhere on this list either, but I have a feeling he would go on a rant about TDTCD that I wouldn't agree with haha
ya he seems to just not care to listen to bands before his time. lots of 70's/80's bands that didn't make the list (and that finn probably doesn't know much about) - buzzcocks, wire, jam, mission of burma, crass, husker du, patti smith, no means no, wipers, the ex (netherlands), disciplina kicme (serbia/yugoslavia), rites of spring, dickies, maybe even velvet underground
Discharge - Hear Nothing See Nothing Say Nothing. There is no way on earth that London Calling is a punk album BTW.
No dead boys or johnny thunders?
There is not 1 bad song on the first Dead Boys album. It should be on there. You are right. I am a big Dolls and Thunders fan. But maybe they consider it more proto-punk. But on the other hand they have The Stooges on there so who knows.
@@magnuslarsson9161 the heartbreakers were full on punk
@@carlosgarciaruiz1102 Yes for sure.
Ramones are my favorite band. Its Alive 2 record album was their best. Listen to : Ramones Live At The Rainbow December 31, 1977 youtube
As a kid getting into punk rock in the 90s. The Clash didn't particularly stick out as what I liked about Punk. However, old punkers would reiterate how important they were to the kids that were part of the first wave scene. Maybe you just had to be there. 🤷
Nope, youg and love the clash, but I also like green day and weezer
How can you not include The Misfits and The Circle Jerks on a list like this? Also… if you’re gonna include Rollins era Black Flag then I’d go with My War.
No Discharge is wild
The Angry Samoans - Back from Samoa. 14 songs in under 18 minutes. Not a wasted second.
Is Glow On by Turnstile considered a punk album? I’ve always been a metal guy, but when that album came out a few years ago it got me to delve into more punk rock and hardcore.
Great album
@USHARDY I agree. I just bought it 2 months ago. Easily one of the best of the modern era of punk bands.
Guttermouth recently toured australia. Got me thinking to what they'd actually play, let alone in australia where venues have cancelled shows for artists not going with the "current thing".