Ok, pro-tip: (if your on a Mac at lest) when upgrading your jails (13:20 of the video) you need to hit "Q" repeatedly in order to continue past the list of files that will be added to the new base jail. Cheers
Thanks for this video. I was especially curious about how TrueNAS was playing along with now "legacy" GELI encryption. Even though I like how TrueNAS now supports per-dataset-encryption, I do not wish to move to that method right away. Simply because it first needs a full decryption first. I think, I shift this to the future, when I set up a new (bigger) pool. But it looks like TrueNAS 12 seems to run smoothly when coming from FreeNAS 11.3. I will consider switching soon, thanks to you going through the process :)
I have Freenas 11.2 uB and didn't see any upgrades or trains to switch to either 11.3 or Truenas 12 So I went and did it though creating a boot flash drive and did the upgrade from boot. What do you do if you Don't have the Trains or updates even being shown. Thanks.
Hey Tom! Done the update for the jail and it gets same as 13:20 but I can;t seem to press enter to finish it. it just shows all the /var...../ and then (END) but clearly not finished.
@@jeffteachworth7918 by the way - my issues have been resolved with the latest updates. I use plugins through the UI and latest updates fixed all the issues I've had
I had FreeNAS running in ESXi 6.7 with an LSI 2008 card in passthrough and with the upgrade, after 4-5 minutes the VM crashed every time. So I had to boot it up without the ESXi (booting a USB unit directly) and now is working fine. Waiting to see if the ESXi issue is resolved somewhere and return back with ESXi again.
the only way to go to or to leave the gELI encryption is to encrypt or decrypt the individual disks, since GELI is whole disk encryption outside of zfs. the migration method is going to be either decrypt each disk or delete the pool, because the GELI encryption is done before zfs touches the disks, zfs is not GELI aware afaik.
Some notes for dinosaurs like me who FINALLY decided to update their 11.3 1. Without 11.3 *U5 * you cannot see 12.0 Stable train. Update, wait, refresh a couple of times - and it will appear. 2. You cannot iocage upgrade anymore (in v12). The 12.2-release which Freenas 12.0 is based on is not available to fetch, the only available is 12.4 - and iocage refuses to upgrade to 12.4 because it is higher than base. That means you have to go straight to 13.0. 3. Once you go to v13 you can upgrade. 4. If your jails do not start, go to web ui -> jaiL -> EDIT -> jail properties and reset the dev_fs to 0. I've no idea what it does but the jails now run.
I have a Freenas system running off USB. I believe the USB has failed, as the bootup never fully completes. Unfortunately I do not have a duplicate of the USB, so it looks like I'll have to switch to TrueNAS. Are the two basically interchangeable? I just need to get the darn access back to my drives.
Hi and thank you. Question: at 13:15 you hit END and then ENTER and then some other key stroke. I hit CNTRL C and that aborts the upgrade. Wth am I doing wrong? Just a putty session.
Hi Tom, can you share some insight on how to care for the drives in long run ? What I mean is how to keep the physical disks running healthy. What to look out for. Stuff like that. For example: Do u just keep all defaults and wait for that email that a disk failed, or do u know any time tested tricks to keep things solid. I noticed >> there are some settings in the "disk" menu... Smartctl is often all over the place ... scrub Why? I find it hard to know when a disk is going out, but this time I caught one at my house... the disk was CONSTANTLY spinning up and stopping. Smartctl had some unusual numbers, but reported the disk is fine. I can't imagine this disk is going to last very long while doing a spinup & spindown every 10 seconds !! I have 4 machines running FN // 2 virtual and 2 bare metal. Both bare metals have had a fail disk in 2 years. zero fails for the virtual ones(XCP-NG).
I have the same issue with legacy encryption, I can't find a way to upgrade the encryption. I would like to take advantage of the new encryption features but can't with legacy encryption.
I have FreeNAS-11.3-STABLE - Release Train for FreeNAS 11.3 [release] and didn't see any upgrades or trains to switch to either TrueNAS-12.0-STABLE - Release Train for TrueNAS 12.0 [release] like in video, it just show TrueNAS-12.1-Nightlies - Nightly builds for TrueNAS 12. Development version, for testing only. [nightly]. What do you do if you Don't have the Trains or updates even being shown. Thanks.
Hi All, I'm still pretty new... sorry for the newbie questions. What would you all suggest as a free option to backup my FreeNAS pools (manual 1 time operation) before upgrade. keeping in mind I'm not that comfortable with Linux command line... a couple lines is ok but more than that and I'm worried I will get lost if something goes wrong. Any plugins or native function? My last resort is from a PC use EaseUS ToDoBackupFree to backup to a external NTFS drive. I'm sure there are better options.
Hey, I don't think anyone ever talk about any of this but is there a way to know for instance, when we start wipe disk using Web GUI other process which takes forever access on my laptop, do I have to keep my laptop open or it will run command on background now if I click close that dialogue button. I am new to this and trying to find out. Because I am not sure CLOSE is for process or dialogue box.
Was trying this and I don't seem to be able to get past the point where you get to the end of the list [END] and pressing enter should complete the install. Nothing happens. All I can see is the end of this list.
does anyone happen to know how to get past the last prompt in the jail update to 12.1. after the prompt "the following files will be updated to 12.1-RELEASE-p.13" i get to the end of the list where it says "(end)" ...and can not continue. What am i missing here?
Having an encrypted drive pool is good because you can very easily take failed drives out and send back to the manufacturer for warranty, without worrying about some disgruntled WD employee stealing your shit or something.
Thanks for the video. Any idea if it’s possible to upgrade from 11.2-U8 direct to TrueNAS? I only see the options to upgrade to 11.3 or TrueNAS nightly
I'm wondering though, how come TrueNAS is based on FreeBSD version 12.2 whereas the latest jail release I can fetch is 12.1? With FreeNAS I could always pick a release that matched the OS's.
I just updated from FreeNAS to trueNAS, and it did not go well. The logo is still 'freeNAS' and the dashboard area is blank and all menu options don't do anything. That area stays blank. But the About section says "TrueNAS-12.0-U6". So it's updated, but not working. As I have currently no pool (western digital destroyed it) I will just reinstall... EDIT: so after some time, it starts to work ans showing trueNAS as logo. So advice: after reboot, let it sit for 15 minutes to "cool down". That crucial part is unfortunately missing from your video.
I just a few days ago ran an upgrade from FreeNAS 11.3-U5, and it all went well except my UniFi Controller Ubuntu VM no longer works (I deleted it for now) and I had to fix some SMB share permissions. I much like the new UI. It's subtle but useful. If anyone can help me get a VM running again on TrueNAS 12-RELEASE (it complains that my machine VM capable, which is BS cuz I was running a VM pre-upgrade) let me know. I'm 99.9999999999% sure I have VT-d enabled in BIOS, but if necessary I can double check on that.
I just upgraded from FreeNAS to TrueNAS. But I am able to access files from Windows SMB files. I have created new users and group but still not able to access from Windows 10 explorers? What did I do wrong? My Plex server not working too.
So i got a question to the mass, mainly @Lawrence Systems is it just me or is there a problem with usb flash drives with TrueNAS I've had to use 3 different USB drives now... It's starting it get annoying..... Who else has has USB drives dying like mad with TrueNAS?
Serve The Home has a write up here about that www.servethehome.com/buyers-guides/top-hardware-components-freenas-nas-servers/top-picks-freenas-boot-drives/
You should upgrade because if you don't most things will stop working because the 11.3 update server is offline and the PKG manager stopped working as does everything requiring you to use PKG commands
Thanks for the guide. Went from FreeNas 11.3 to TrueNas 12. All seems to work well except when i try to update my Plex jails. I get this Error: Major ABI change detected, please run upgrade instead. I'm noobish when it comes to this so please link me a guide how to fix this or if u can create a video guide for the super noobs like myself how to correct this error. thanks.
Actually the snapshot you've taken before updating jail is kind of worthless, because even if something goes wrong with updating release version and you will revert to snapshot, you will end up with f*cked up jail anyways, because jail's root is not the only thing what's changing. I've had many hours of headache when I was updating my nextcloud jail.
@@Stephan7926 it crashes or just gets stuck? The output looks like the less command or something similar, so have you just tried using the Q key to exit out of it?
DON'T DO THAT ! It is no more possible to create a Samba share for root, so no more possible to delete or modify a file from Windows... FTP mandatory. TrueNAS is just a big shit.
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Ok, pro-tip: (if your on a Mac at lest) when upgrading your jails (13:20 of the video) you need to hit "Q" repeatedly in order to continue past the list of files that will be added to the new base jail.
Cheers
Thanks for this video. I was especially curious about how TrueNAS was playing along with now "legacy" GELI encryption. Even though I like how TrueNAS now supports per-dataset-encryption, I do not wish to move to that method right away. Simply because it first needs a full decryption first. I think, I shift this to the future, when I set up a new (bigger) pool. But it looks like TrueNAS 12 seems to run smoothly when coming from FreeNAS 11.3. I will consider switching soon, thanks to you going through the process :)
Keep it up Tom, love your work and videos. Al very helpful and informative. Cheers!
Thanks for the video. Really Intresting. I'm thinking about upgrading. Support, Tom
Upgraded to RC1 last week. It works great. I also migrated one of my iSCSI zvols from lz4 to zstd, but it went from 1.54x to 1.48x compression ratio.
I have Freenas 11.2 uB and didn't see any upgrades or trains to switch to either 11.3 or Truenas 12 So I went and did it though creating a boot flash drive and did the upgrade from boot. What do you do if you Don't have the Trains or updates even being shown. Thanks.
Hey Tom! Done the update for the jail and it gets same as 13:20 but I can;t seem to press enter to finish it. it just shows all the /var...../ and then (END) but clearly not finished.
Same here, came hoping to find an answer. At least I know im not the only one. Any solutions?
@@jeffteachworth7918 by the way - my issues have been resolved with the latest updates. I use plugins through the UI and latest updates fixed all the issues I've had
@@A2KMedia Im using manual jails. But just curious, you just aborted the jail upgrade and updated the plugin?
@@jeffteachworth7918 i was doing both, but basically in the end all 3 of my plug-ins were updated and it is working well now.
@@A2KMedia Found the solution. Simply just press "q"
www.truenas.com/community/threads/jail-upgrade-from-11-4-to-12-2-fails.89526/
Awesome! Thanks Tom.
I had FreeNAS running in ESXi 6.7 with an LSI 2008 card in passthrough and with the upgrade, after 4-5 minutes the VM crashed every time. So I had to boot it up without the ESXi (booting a USB unit directly) and now is working fine. Waiting to see if the ESXi issue is resolved somewhere and return back with ESXi again.
the only way to go to or to leave the gELI encryption is to encrypt or decrypt the individual disks, since GELI is whole disk encryption outside of zfs. the migration method is going to be either decrypt each disk or delete the pool, because the GELI encryption is done before zfs touches the disks, zfs is not GELI aware afaik.
Some notes for dinosaurs like me who FINALLY decided to update their 11.3
1. Without 11.3 *U5 * you cannot see 12.0 Stable train. Update, wait, refresh a couple of times - and it will appear.
2. You cannot iocage upgrade anymore (in v12). The 12.2-release which Freenas 12.0 is based on is not available to fetch, the only available is 12.4 - and iocage refuses to upgrade to 12.4 because it is higher than base. That means you have to go straight to 13.0.
3. Once you go to v13 you can upgrade.
4. If your jails do not start, go to web ui -> jaiL -> EDIT -> jail properties and reset the dev_fs to 0. I've no idea what it does but the jails now run.
I have a Freenas system running off USB. I believe the USB has failed, as the bootup never fully completes. Unfortunately I do not have a duplicate of the USB, so it looks like I'll have to switch to TrueNAS. Are the two basically interchangeable? I just need to get the darn access back to my drives.
Hi and thank you. Question: at 13:15 you hit END and then ENTER and then some other key stroke. I hit CNTRL C and that aborts the upgrade. Wth am I doing wrong? Just a putty session.
Same here, im doing it right now. Any solutions?
pointing out that one should also, after updating the jail like you did, run a pkg update && pkg upgrade to get a newer syncthing version.
Hi Tom, can you share some insight on how to care for the drives in long run ? What I mean is how to keep the physical disks running healthy. What to look out for. Stuff like that. For example: Do u just keep all defaults and wait for that email that a disk failed, or do u know any time tested tricks to keep things solid. I noticed >> there are some settings in the "disk" menu... Smartctl is often all over the place ... scrub Why? I find it hard to know when a disk is going out, but this time I caught one at my house... the disk was CONSTANTLY spinning up and stopping. Smartctl had some unusual numbers, but reported the disk is fine. I can't imagine this disk is going to last very long while doing a spinup & spindown every 10 seconds !!
I have 4 machines running FN // 2 virtual and 2 bare metal. Both bare metals have had a fail disk in 2 years. zero fails for the virtual ones(XCP-NG).
I have the same issue with legacy encryption, I can't find a way to upgrade the encryption. I would like to take advantage of the new encryption features but can't with legacy encryption.
I have FreeNAS-11.3-STABLE - Release Train for FreeNAS 11.3 [release] and didn't see any upgrades or trains to switch to either TrueNAS-12.0-STABLE - Release Train for TrueNAS 12.0 [release] like in video, it just show TrueNAS-12.1-Nightlies - Nightly builds for TrueNAS 12. Development version, for testing only. [nightly]. What do you do if you Don't have the Trains or updates even being shown. Thanks.
Could you comment on how did you get 12 SATA connectors on a Motherboard which has an i5 4th gen. Thanks.
He would have most likely use an HBA card
Hi All, I'm still pretty new... sorry for the newbie questions. What would you all suggest as a free option to backup my FreeNAS pools (manual 1 time operation) before upgrade. keeping in mind I'm not that comfortable with Linux command line... a couple lines is ok but more than that and I'm worried I will get lost if something goes wrong. Any plugins or native function? My last resort is from a PC use EaseUS ToDoBackupFree to backup to a external NTFS drive. I'm sure there are better options.
Hey, I don't think anyone ever talk about any of this but is there a way to know for instance, when we start wipe disk using Web GUI other process which takes forever access on my laptop, do I have to keep my laptop open or it will run command on background now if I click close that dialogue button. I am new to this and trying to find out. Because I am not sure CLOSE is for process or dialogue box.
Was trying this and I don't seem to be able to get past the point where you get to the end of the list [END] and pressing enter should complete the install. Nothing happens. All I can see is the end of this list.
Never mind. Worked out that I needed to press Q key and continue to scroll down multiple times!
does anyone happen to know how to get past the last prompt in the jail update to 12.1.
after the prompt
"the following files will be updated to 12.1-RELEASE-p.13"
i get to the end of the list where it says "(end)"
...and can not continue.
What am i missing here?
6:20 I only see the "TrueNAS 12.1 Nightly"
EDIT: I went to the legacy web and appears TrueNAS 12.0 Stable and upgrade from there ...
Having an encrypted drive pool is good because you can very easily take failed drives out and send back to the manufacturer for warranty, without worrying about some disgruntled WD employee stealing your shit or something.
Thanks for the video. Any idea if it’s possible to upgrade from 11.2-U8 direct to TrueNAS? I only see the options to upgrade to 11.3 or TrueNAS nightly
I've seen issues with not all the upgrade trains appearing unless you completely wipe your cache for the site
I'm wondering though, how come TrueNAS is based on FreeBSD version 12.2 whereas the latest jail release I can fetch is 12.1? With FreeNAS I could always pick a release that matched the OS's.
couchpotato TrueNAS-12.0-U2 missing.
Hi Tom, I was wondering, what is the benefit of updating the jails the the latest release?
Security and running the latest version allows the latest features.
I just updated from FreeNAS to trueNAS, and it did not go well. The logo is still 'freeNAS' and the dashboard area is blank and all menu options don't do anything. That area stays blank. But the About section says "TrueNAS-12.0-U6". So it's updated, but not working. As I have currently no pool (western digital destroyed it) I will just reinstall... EDIT: so after some time, it starts to work ans showing trueNAS as logo. So advice: after reboot, let it sit for 15 minutes to "cool down". That crucial part is unfortunately missing from your video.
I just a few days ago ran an upgrade from FreeNAS 11.3-U5, and it all went well except my UniFi Controller Ubuntu VM no longer works (I deleted it for now) and I had to fix some SMB share permissions. I much like the new UI. It's subtle but useful. If anyone can help me get a VM running again on TrueNAS 12-RELEASE (it complains that my machine VM capable, which is BS cuz I was running a VM pre-upgrade) let me know. I'm 99.9999999999% sure I have VT-d enabled in BIOS, but if necessary I can double check on that.
Video starts at 05:32.
I just upgraded from FreeNAS to TrueNAS. But I am able to access files from Windows SMB files. I have created new users and group but still not able to access from Windows 10 explorers? What did I do wrong? My Plex server not working too.
Very nice video like always, some one know if TN 12.0 consume more ram than FN 11.3?
u the man
So i got a question to the mass, mainly @Lawrence Systems is it just me or is there a problem with usb flash drives with TrueNAS I've had to use 3 different USB drives now... It's starting it get annoying..... Who else has has USB drives dying like mad with TrueNAS?
Serve The Home has a write up here about that www.servethehome.com/buyers-guides/top-hardware-components-freenas-nas-servers/top-picks-freenas-boot-drives/
You should upgrade because if you don't most things will stop working because the 11.3 update server is offline and the PKG manager stopped working as does everything requiring you to use PKG commands
"make sure you back up"
*completely glosses over exactly what to back up and how*
Hi Lawrence~~ can freenas pull file from smb1.0 nas as an smb client?
There might be a a way to do it but FreeNAS/TrueNAS is a designed to be a server, not a client.
Thanks for the guide. Went from FreeNas 11.3 to TrueNas 12. All seems to work well except when i try to update my Plex jails. I get this Error: Major ABI change detected, please run upgrade instead. I'm noobish when it comes to this so please link me a guide how to fix this or if u can create a video guide for the super noobs like myself how to correct this error. thanks.
Need to do “iocage upgrade -r 12.1-RELEASE plexname” if like me your iocage install is out of date.
@@mpstein1976 Followed the sample on the video (got liquid courage first) and it updated properly my plex. thanks
Actually the snapshot you've taken before updating jail is kind of worthless, because even if something goes wrong with updating release version and you will revert to snapshot, you will end up with f*cked up jail anyways, because jail's root is not the only thing what's changing. I've had many hours of headache when I was updating my nextcloud jail.
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I got stuck on 13:20 in every single jail. Probably is missing me some simple thing
me too - it crashes with END. Did you find a solution?
@@Stephan7926 No, not yet.
@@Stephan7926 it crashes or just gets stuck? The output looks like the less command or something similar, so have you just tried using the Q key to exit out of it?
@@AndreasZetterlund I hit q, had to page down again, hit enter a few times, then q, then it finally worked. Weird.
@@howardd8179 Yep that worked thanks
I'll miss the shark.
Freenas updated properly to TrueNAS, thanks Tom. It seems running smooth and without any issues.
You may have seen it by now, but if you go to Preferences, you can select the "Retro Logo," and that will bring back the shark.
What is freenas and what is truenas
They are both Network Attached Storage (NAS). You store things on hard drives. TrueNAS and FreeNAS are programs that help organize that information.
DON'T DO THAT ! It is no more possible to create a Samba share for root, so no more possible to delete or modify a file from Windows...
FTP mandatory.
TrueNAS is just a big shit.
Your video is not clear...
First
good tutorials but this guy talks to much...is kinda of annoying
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@LAWRENCESYSTEMS hahahaha but thank you for the tutorials!!! i'm still watching them!!