Hoshizaki Ice machine with low ice production
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- Опубликовано: 21 окт 2024
- This was a service call on a Hoshizaki ice machine with low ice production, the customer informed me that multiple people have worked on this machine and could not figure out what was going on. It really was a simple issue that had been overlooked.
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Wow, ive been to Hoshizaki school Several times in 37 Years doing this & They Have Never Mentioned to Look out for the Broken Welds or Evaporator Flapping in the Wind. Thanks For Making this Vid. Good info. Time for a couple New Machines Here.
Yeah I imagine at hoshizaki they are concerned that pulling on the Evaps like that will cause premature failure.???? Non the less you gotta do what ya gotta do! Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment
Thank you Chris. This helps a lot as I work on Hoahizaki ice machines. All of your videos are always detailed and explained in great detail. Looking forward to the next one.
Thanks !
Nice catch, had a machine years ago kicking my ass for a week with call backs for no production but to me seemed to be running perfect. After swallowing my 21yr old arrogance I Told my dad what was going on with it and he immediately told me to check that the plate isn’t separated. Took him 3 mins of listening to the symptoms 2nd hand lol.
You're the man. Great observations.
Thanks for the nice words! And thanks for watching!
Thank you, I did not know about checking coil like that! 👌🏽 Bid high brother! It really would be best to just replace at this point.
Yeah in my opinion it is better off replacing, but we will see what the customer wants to do.
Thanks for the info man I’ll check the evaporator next time I come across on of these ice machines great tip
The last time I diagnosed a Hoshizaki with plate separation like that, I called their tech line and asked how they bonded the stainless to the copper tubing. Lol, the guy told me he didn’t know and that it was a trade secret He said that the area of the factory in which it was done has highly restricted access.
I was a Emerson Technical Specialist a few years back and toured the Copeland scroll factory in Ohio. They would not let you see/tour the area where the scroll itself was formed. Trade secrets are in every industry..... just ask the Chicken guy with the secret recipe.
I enjoy your service videos Keep up the great work you do
Thanks bud!
Chris Much appreciated your videos are the best I've seen keep it up .
Thanks for the kind words!
I wouldn't have know to check that... thanks for the lesson!
Yea chris tanks for the vids every time i watch i learn somthing keep up the good works am from canada
Thank you for the nice comment and thanks for watching!
Very thorough nice work........
Another great video......Thank you
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awesome catch i got to push on that elbows bit to double check them evap coils gotta to remember that Thanks ! for sharing 👈👍👍👍😎
No worries, thanks for watching!
Also cheap customers start off by telling you. " yeah i spent so much money, no one can figure out the problem. blah,blah,blah" They have been calling out non educated techs out. Are they jumping on board with replacing the whole machine? I hope you get the sale. But maybe they opt to repair it. Then that proves why they keep having issues. They don't want to replace the equipment. Anyways great video content. Keep up the great work.
Very cool vid Chris ! I learned something today 👍
Thanks bud!!
Your not the only one ! 37 years in the trade & im still picking up tricks.
Thanks!
Hoshi are know for loose coils. Good to see others; due simple checks to find real issues.
Great video. Thanks
Love a Hoshi machine
N~ice tips!! ~ Great vid!
So are you going to recommend replacing them? What were the quotes for?
Great video 👍👍👍
Hey , love your videos, I just went though the same thing with a 900lb machine. One of the few flaws with hoshizaki
Yeah it's something that is very easy to overlook
Thanks for watching !!!
Three thing you always check on the Hoshizaki Ice machines. 1. The flush valve being stuck open by guide parts or mineral deposits 2. Plate separation 3. Needing cleaning. . You look at these 3 first before going super tech. ( of coarse the line size of the machine if you have never worked on it before should be looked at) installers are to blame for some of the plate separation issues. Installing undersized water lines and it freezing up over and over not good on any thing . Thing that freeze up get damaged. Just remember the TXV,S that have flare nuts on them In freezers.
Good video, Hey can you tell me where can I get a service manual for a 2100 model Hoshizaki ice maker.
I had never considered that evap separation before. Great tip thanks. Do you think that would be caused by iced up evap in the past? Or is that just something that happens over time?
I think freeze ups could definitely cause this
Just curious....would you clean a hoshizaki condenser coil with water without emptying the bin?
Awesome man. Interesting.
Thanks!!
What is the issue if the compressor starts getting cold during harvest?
Very educational vedieo indeed
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Love your videos. I got a quick question though did you quote him a new ice machine or do you quote new evaporator?
They purchase their machines direct from the manufacturer, so I just quoted the evaps, they decided to purchase new machines
Is it a water cooled condenser or fan cooled condenser. It also looks like that small area has poor air circulation and ventilation. Must have a minimum of 5 inches clearance around all sides and top of machine.
Fan cooled
Nice video thank you
I have seen this separation a lot on my job!
Yeah it is a common issue on older machines!
Don't know how old these units are but sounds as if they need an upgrade. Probably to much $ to get them in proper working order.
Nice vid !!
Thanks for watching!
Did they approve the quotes?
We call those flappers up here, tough to quote on new machine as it looks like they are both remotes, could be a lot of 💰💰💰💰
Yeah I'm gonna quote the repairs and see what they say.
Hey Chris, those machines looked 15 years old... what is there official age..???
I'm pretty sure they were installed in 2004
I was damm close.. did you fix isuses or put 2 new ones in..???
The customer ordered two new machines
I run into that stuff all the time , spend a Tonna money and the units junk lol.
If they are smart. Have you install a new one and have you maintain it. Nice video brotha 👍🏼🤙🏼✌
Thanks for watching
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This!! Good job, hopefully customer didn't think that you were trying ripping off.
I told a customer their equipment was trash they got pissed and sent me on my way
Yea, u Got to Speak to customers Gently sometimes & Show them / Prove to them Why the Equiptment Needs Replaced. example ---- Compressors valves are worn out because of Age or Not cleaning condensers or combination of both & will not pull down anymore. , Evaporator has too many pinhole leaks , leaking like a bubble machine.
Kill them with kindness. They are trusting you to be honest and respectful of their equipment. Always be aware that there is a chance they will go for very large repairs rather than replace and if you present them with facts in a nice way then they might not be so abrupt to replace equipment and they will call you back. I can't tell you how many customers we've lost because a tech wasn't respectful to the customer.
Amen
Common problem on older Hoshi’s
Time for a new machine. Evap, comp, and accul, too much money to put into an old machine. What else is ready to fail?
Yeah that is my opinion too, let's see what the customer thinks. I honestly would rather not replace all those parts in fear that something else will fail.
What was the outcome? Did they repair replace or ignore ?
They ended up replacing the machines with brand new ones, but as chain restaurants go they bought the machines direct from the manufacturer and I had nothing to do with the sale or install. Anyways thanks for watching bud!
thanks for all the videos buddy you’re a super tech, I’m actually learning a lot about refrigeration from these vids and others here on utube. Starting a refrigeration job next week coming from 2 years of commercial hvac service. any specific tips you can give me?
Buy the book commercial refrigeration for Air Conditioning technicians by dick wirz
why did they not water proof the compressoe side oh wait (chinesium name) made in china i bet :P nice vid cool to see how those ice machines work