MY NEW BIG 10 CONFERENCE REALIGNMENT!!
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- Опубликовано: 9 мар 2024
- I give my realistic shot at a BIG 10 conference realignment!! I added Florida State and Arizona as schools that help balance the BIG 10. I give my hypothetical mini BIG 10 tourney and 11-game schedule. If we reach our like goal of 50, I will do a follow-up video detailing the schedules and rivalries for every team! Subscribe for more!
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Big10 needs Florida & Texas schools
Florida teams yes ! Florida st. And Miami , but Texas schools 🏫 right now ! I don't think that we'll happen big ten needs to think outside the box also go for the university of Toronto !
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Wouldn't the b1g invite Stanf/Cal b4 the Az schools? Per @NevadaBuck, Aug. '21?
Arizona has chosen the Big 12, They haven't even played a game yet, and you want to poach the
Good show!
Glad you enjoyed it
Big 10 should go after FSU and Clemson.
Neither are in or were in the Association of American Universities. That matters to the Big Ten, more than any other power conference.
Good video! The only minor changes I would make were the misspellings of hypothetical and conference. But again, good video!
Editing will get cleaned up, appreciate u!
Im confised. Would this mean that Michigan would play 3 non-conference games, 11 B1G games, then two more in the B1G playoffs, then at least two more in the CFP to possibly win a national championship?
I don't doubt FSU joining the B1G within the next year. It WILL happen, and I am rooting for it. A lot easier competition (overall) than the SEC, and we can win it within a couple years. It also brings us, like, 2x revenue without TV rights. Also, we are a baseball school. I know it doesn't bring in a ton of money compared to football, but we are definitely a competitive baseball team (1 of 2 undefeated teams) , as well as one of the best historic programs of all time, and definitely the biggest in football since the 90's. (Note: Yes, we had less championships than Bama, but Bama has gotten in (usually) out of 4 teams, while we won 2 and played in (5?) nattys in the BCS era. We also should have won one in 1996 after we beat UF but they still put UF in the championship)
Also kudos for saying "hypothetically" when discussing the results of the mini tournament. I think all three of those teams had a good chance at winning the title if the playoff was seeded fairly.
@@JacobW0422 Again just projecting, who knows who wins, a healthy Jordan Travis vs a dealing Michael Penix 🤔
Wow, you're really going to be disappointed. The B1G has an escalation clause to expand in its current media deal, but it's only for Notre Dame.
If Notre Dame comes to the B1G dragging FSU along, well then congratulations you just hit the lottery!
Now, if it's anybody else, you're going to have to work through some issues. Money mostly, because Fox already boosted the media less than a year ago to add Wa/Or, apparently they are tapped till 2030, maybe they are bluffing and bump it again, but that's not gonna be anymore than what Wa/Or. got, which is half shares till 2030.
I've heard people say ESPN and Fox will get in a bidding war, I don't buy that for a second though. Both understand they can't keep throwing money at every school that wants to jump conferences. I fully expect ESPN to low ball every ACC team besides UNC.
Take out AZ and put in Notre D
For west coast teams, Arizona is on the low end of possible expansion invites for the B1G.
Stanford
Utah
Cal
Colorado
All four have favorable tv rankings over Arizona when you average the last 5 years. Since this is about football, and the tv audience that a team can bring, Utah probably brings the most eyeballs with Stanford giving them a run for their money. Of course Colorado blew everyone out last year due to the infatuation with coach Prime. How long will that last though?
Point is, there are too many teams in front of Arizona for a realistic invite. That’s not a knock on the Wildcats, that’s just the factual numbers. AZ has some great sports programs, but the money and their ability to draw in a national audience falls short.
ND and fsu
I could still see Stanford end up in the Big10, but not Arizona, especially without ASU.
Stanford...🤔
I think ASU belongs in the B1G over Arizona. Don’t rule out Kansas and Texas Tech as well.
Why not leave Florida State outside this realignment for a moment. Let us add Notre Dame to the Central Division. We can place Michigan into the East Division. We can preserve the Ohio State- Michigan rivalry into perpetuity. I think this might prove to be a great conference alignment for years to come.
🤔. I answered the note dame question in my most recent vid, all I’ll say rn is that if ND wanted to join a conference, they would have been first pick anywhere, sec, or big. Appreciate the comment!
LOL! Ignoring the fact that Arizona is in the big 12
The B12 and ACC GOR's are identical. Totally the same. Bob Bowlsby was interviewed and he said he gave the B12's GOR form to the ACC. That's why they are the same. If FSU and Clemson can get out of the ACC's GOR, it stands to reason that the B12 GOR is also vulnerable. If that is the case, the B12 schools will also be free to change conferences. Multiple B12 schools would like to change conferences including TTU and OK ST want to join OU and Texas in the SEC. AZ, ASU, KU, UT, CO and ISU would all like to join the B1G. The B1G likely would not take 6 B12 schools but they might take three.
As a Northwestern alumnus move Nebraska to the west and put ND in the midwest, but otherwise your speculation is reasonable.
I would also like to go back to the 1993 Big Ten prior to adding Penn State. The Rose Bowl featuring Big Ten vs. Pac 10 champions was all that mattered.
Northwestern should be demoted to the MAC
Thought Arizona went to the Big12. ND an option but ND would be a pain in the ass! Pitt would be a good fit as would West Virginia. Maryland and Rutgers are slowly fitting into the Big10 but actually never have any excitement with them.
When the B12 added WVU, some B12 member schools (namely, KSU, KU, ISU and Texas) complained about WVU's low academic standards and Louisville almost got into the B12 as a replacement for WVU. If those B12 schools did not want to be associated with WVU's academic profile way back when, why would you think the many AAU schools in the B1G would want to add WVU. Pitt is an AAU school and has excellent academics as well as being a rival for Penn State. So, yeah, I do think Pitt has a shot.
Academics count for a lot among Big Ten college presidents and for the past 130 years academics have played a huge part in which rivals a university chooses to associate with athletically.
Had Nebraska been kicked out of the AAU (Association of American Universities) before Big Ten membership was offered rather than after, it's highly doubtful that the Big Ten schools would have extended the invitation in the first place. As it was, Nebraska was offered and accepted Big Ten membership just before they were (grossly unfairly) expelled from the AAU. The Big Ten, to their credit, maintained their invitation because they felt that Nebraska still met their academic as well as athletic standards. Note that all of the incoming Big Ten schools are AAU members.
Also consider that the Big Ten, more than any other power conference, fosters academic and research cooperation among their member schools through the Big Ten Academic Alliance.
@@craigrohn9938 Don't believe that Nebraska was treated unfairly by the AAU. The "knocks" on Nebraska academically were: (a) Nebraska's research was too heavily skewed toward basic agricultural research; and (b) the AAU does not allow members to aggregate research from an administratively distinct medical school. Iowa State recently forfeited its AAU membership because of (a) as have others and several would-be AAU members such as Oklahoma have administratively separate medical schools whose research is thus not included within the "main campus's" research. The rules for AAU membership appear to be in general consistently applied.
@@Jimmy-sj9ny They're both in the same university system under the same system president. Just because the med school is in Omaha rather than Lincoln shouldn't make that much difference. And, "basic agricultural research," while it won't win Fields Medals or Nobel Prizes, happens to be one of the things that feed this nation and the biggest thing that the AAU objected to was that a lot of the research was USDA funded. I still think UNL got jobbed.
@@craigrohn9938 I am not saying it's right. But, Iowa State had the exact same issue with the AAU devaluing agricultural research and eventually Iowa State did the same as Nebraska did and withdrew from the AAU voluntarily. As to the medical school issue, lots of would-be AAU members have separately administered medical programs. Carnegie classifies UNL as "Research Doctoral- Comprehensive programs, no medical/veterinary school." Just this past year, the University of Oklahoma had the exact same issue when it was considered but not approved for AAU membership. OU's main campus is in Norman with around $400M of annual research grants and its medical campus is in Oklahoma City which also has $350-400M of annual research grants. OU's Norman campus is also classified by Carnegie as "Research Doctoral- Comprehensive programs, no medical/veterinary school." And, OU also was not permitted to aggregate the research from the two campuses.
FSU Clemson Notre Dame Stanford
Midwest is a tough out for everyone
Kansas needs to join the Big Ten ASAP. No sense at all staying in the 12.
It’s not up to them. Unless the B1G invites them, there’s no moving.
Kansas doesn’t harness the tv rankings to warrant an invite. I’m not trashing Kansas, but I’m going by the tv ratings, and they don’t pull in the numbers to receive a $60-$70 million annual payout.
Why can't they trim the fat at the end of a GOR? Dump Rutgers for sure, and several others. Make room for better programs
The problem with knocking off teams like Rutgers and Indiana is that: these bigger teams need a breather in the schedule. For example, if Michigan played Texas and another power 4 program in their non conference games and on top of that playing a murders row of a conference schedule. Like, these guys need their guaranteed win in the schedule
As in this year's schedule? Michigan plays Texas, Washington, Oregon, and Ohio State. Add in USC (they play in Ann Arbor) and whatever traditional BIG 10 program they have scheduled and you are looking at a lucky 9-3 record since they are rebuilding. @@BIG10_Quicktalk
@eddihaskell Yes thank you for the clarification, these teams need a game that isn't a top 25 matchup or a top 25 talent, I would argue having the Rutgers, Maryland, and Indiana's of the world is actually a necessity for these middle ground and even high-end programs cause these guys need a breather sometimes from playing the high-end teams. More on this in my upcoming video
Should probably swap Illinois with Wisconsin.
I tried to stay as regional as possible
As a Northwestern alumnus I would rather be with Iowa and Wisconsin as there is more hate there.
GO BIG RED ❤😂
@@BIG10_Quicktalk I'm not an expert on the rivalries, but one division has two Michigan teams, and two Indiana teams, so moving Illinois to a division with Northwestern makes sense, and also works regionally. However, there's probably going to end up being 24 teams in each conference, and every decision will alter how the division work out.
@@redroom8537 🤔. I will say that I think my model here can work for at least a decade or two, like the BIG 19 can stop after this, more on that in an upcoming vid!
Bro, go to sleep😂. Real talk, a lot of thought must have went into this, minus Arizona (replace with ND or Stan) that was pretty good.
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They would never split up Michigan/Ohio State.
Arizona in the Big 12
For now…
Dude Arizona is in the Big 12. PLEASE!
No shit? Arizona is also in Podunk (Tucson) and don’t draw any 👀.
Also, We might reasonably expect that the Big Ten Football Championship game be contested each year at the Rose Bowl! No other championship would reasonably matter.
PLS, I LOVE this idea of playing the BIG championship at the Rose Bowl, awesome take!
Needs 12 teams per division big 48
Oh dear…that would not be good, but it may yet come to that.
Arizona is the big 12 buddy 😊
Yeah, and they can’t move…? Either way new vid answering your questions very soon!
The B12 and ACC GOR's are identical. Totally the same. Bob Bowlsby was interviewed and he said he gave the B12's GOR form to the ACC. That's why they are the same. If FSU and Clemson can get out of the ACC's GOR, it stands to reason that the B12 GOR is also vulnerable. If that is the case, the B12 schools will also be free to change conferences. Multiple B12 schools would like to change conferences including TTU and OK ST want to join OU and Texas in the SEC. AZ, ASU, KU, UT, CO and ISU would all like to join the B1G. The B1G likely would not take 6 B12 schools but they might take three.
@Jimmy-sj9ny the thing is, the B1G and the SEC aren't interested in all those teams from the Big 12. Sure Big 12 teams might be free to leave, but where are they going to go if the B1G and SEC aren't interested?
yer mid west div should be named the WAC....
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This will work for a year or two. I believe eventually the B1G will expand to 24 teams- four divisions of 6. Notre Dame will eventually join the fold and the B1G will probably add Arizona + 1 more west coast team.
You're dreaming lol. Florida St is not going to the Big Ten. It's probably staying in the ACC after twisting the arm of the ACC commissioner and ESPN for a new deal in 2025. But if it doesn't, it's going to the SEC.
SEC has said that they are done expanding, so that takes them out of the equation (for now). I would love for them to stay in the acc and for the acc to stay relevant, but if they don’t get a new deal done within the next year, Florida St is going to say adios and split.
FSU isn't staying in the ACC and the way esecpn and the SEC has treated us that ain't happening either
Seriously doubt if Arizona leaves the Big 12.
🤷, no one was expecting OU and UT to jump when they did, weirder has happened.
Arizona is likely pretty low on the B1G expansion list. However, Arizona would jump at the chance to join the B1G. They aren't going to stay in the little 12 if the B1G invites them to join.
@@Patrick-sg7cmArizona was one of schools vetted by Big 10. Go read Pete Thamel’s article.
@@LawJolla Yes, Arizona was vetted by the B1G. However, that doesn't necessarily mean that the B1G will add them. It simply gives them the option of adding Arizona. I think there are higher priority schools on the B1G expansion list, but perhaps Arizona might be a plan B or a plan C if some of the other schools on the list don't work out.
@@Patrick-sg7cm completely agree. Just to say that AZ is in on their radar for the people that dismiss it out of hand. Objectively not true.
Also TV matters and markets matter. While not TX or FL, Arizona is still one of the fastest growing states and will be in the top 10 this decade.
Arizona is $200 million is debt
And the BIG 10 can clean that up. Appreciate u!
@@BIG10_Quicktalk They can't leave the Big 12 at this time due to the agreement they signed.
@@ericwilper3763 The B12 and ACC GOR's are identical. Totally the same. Bob Bowlsby was interviewed and he said he gave the B12's GOR form to the ACC. That's why they are the same. If FSU and Clemson can get out of the ACC's GOR, it stands to reason that the B12 GOR is also vulnerable. If that is the case, the B12 schools will also be free to change conferences. Multiple B12 schools would like to change conferences including TTU and OK ST want to join OU and Texas in the SEC. AZ, ASU, KU, UT, CO and ISU would all like to join the B1G. The B1G likely would not take 6 B12 schools but they might take three.
@@Jimmy-sj9ny We'll see if it holds. And even if it doesn't, those schools would actually have to be wanted by the B1G or SEC. And honestly, the juice isn't worth the squeeze. The B1G still wants AAU schools. Neither the SEC or B1G are going to take these little ag or tech schools. (KSU, ISU, Texas Tech) or schools where they already have a presence in the state that aren't a blueblood type. (Oklahoma State).
@@ericwilper3763 The B12's AZ, ASU, KU, Utah and Colorado are all AAU members and state flagship schools. If there is another round of expansion, the other main remaining AAU members available are the ACC's Stanford, Cal, Miami, NC, GA Tech, Pitt and Duke. The American has USF and Tulane with AAU membership. The Big 12's AAU members are not worse prospects for B1G membership than the other AAU schools that also want to move up. In terms of the SEC, Texas and Oklahoma both received a lot of legislative pressure when they signed on to join the SEC to bring along OK ST and TTU. It is certainly not inconceivable that they could be added to the SEC in another expansion. Both TTU and OK ST have improved academics and athletic facilities and would be somewhere in the middle of the current SEC.
Given your proposed realignment, you must be either an Iowa or Nebraska fan. The Midwest division is mediocre at best and pure garbage at worst. The fairest way to go to twenty teams is to have two 10 divisions with promotion and relegation every year. The teams in each division play every team in their division. Then, the bottom two teams of the premier division are relegated to the lower division and the two top teams in the lower division are promoted to the premier division. The 3rd worst and 3rd best play a game to determine if the 3rd place from the lower division gets promoted.
BTW There's no way in hell the B1G takes Arizona. In the unlikely event they take another Western team (it's probably going to be ND, UNC, Miami, or Ga Tech), it will be Utah.
Xichigan and Ohio State belong in the same division.
Michigan would have kicked everyone,s ass😅😅😅
I not sure how weight to put into this statement: But, there is some discussion that Florida State & Notre Dame could be B1G bound. But, this playoff before the CFP Playoff does not seem wise & the 11 conference games is a little much. The Florida State vs Florida rivalry must be maintained, other wise the State of Florida Capital will blow up! From what I understand there will be no division’s with this next round of realignment in the B1G. ESPN & FOX are having a bidding war over Florida State University now, and when does Notre Dame make their decision. Ideally, Miami, or North Carolina, or Georgia Tech would keep FSU from being Isolated in the B1G South East Wing. *Clemson has a loyal passionate fanbase with excellent facility’s. The biggest questions are: Does Clemson have interest in the B1G & does the B1G have Interest in Clemson? I simply have no information on these question’s, if someone knows kindly let me know. Go Noles!! **There is some info that poorly preforming football for a number years would be kicked out of the of the B1G, & the same could very well SEC could happen in the same way.
The SEC will never kick out founding members. There are also bylaws that protect the membership Universities individually as well as the conference as a whole. Both conferences are projected to be paying close to 100 million dollars per CURRENT member by 2030. Why would anyone be cut?! They won’t be.
@@jansonroberts2616 , It was an ESPN talking head who brought up the same issue with a couple of B1G. Realignment is not making sense of late. ESPN & FOX are driving the bus with school’s not making much of the decisions.
Well the B1G has an escalation clause in the current media deal, but only Notre Dame is named. I just don't see the B1G expanding again till the next media deal in 2030, cause Fox just bumped up the media deal to add Wa/Or and they said they are tapped till 2030.(Unless of course it's Notre Dame, then they are chipping in)
Does the B1G let FSU in just because they need a partner with Notre Dame? Maybe, but anything more than a half share is doubtful. ESPN would be generous imo, they don't have to pay the ACC deal anymore, they will have some extra money, I wouldn't be surprised at all though if ESPN tried to low ball ACC teams though.
? Noterdame
UCLA was added for the LA market, not because UCLA is a basketball school.
I disagree, every decision cannot be football oriented, thx for the thought!
@@BIG10_Quicktalk
You might disagree, but it’s an absolute fact. These expansions have been all about football, and nothing else.
Had basketball had any play into this last expansion by the B1G, Arizona would’ve been picked over both Oregon and Washington. Neither team has Arizona’s resume in basketball.
Oregon was picked for one simple reason. They constantly sit in the top 12 most watched teams in college football. Washington was picked because they consistently sit inside the top 20. Arizona typically ranks anywhere around the 50th-70th rankings, pending on the year and season results.
A team needs to generate the tv audience in order to receive an invite because that’s where FOX, NBC, and CBS is paying the B1G for their media rights contracts. The B1G is the most watched conference in the nation in football, hence the reason they receive a $60-$70 million annual payout per team. So unless Arizona can generate that and more, it will only dilute the profit sharing. No president in the B1G is going to sign off an invite towards a team, if that means they will lose money.
UA will never see an invite because they don’t generate enough of a tv audience to justify that kind of payout. That’s a fact, not an opinion.
I think your lacking a little up top, . Ohio St., Penn St, and Florida St in the same division is dumb. Can't you even things out better than this? What are you? 3?You guys ruined college football. Can't wait to see what these media company's are going to do when their viewer ratings drop and they can't pay the teams especially since they made the game shorter so they could add more commercials. If these media outlets could make us watch commercials all day they would do it. College football is over as we know it, media owns CFB now.
I think it’s great. Love the East, Central and West Divisions. Weakest division is MidWest but very competitive internally.
Can’t speak for the other conferences but the SEC tv viewership numbers are only getting larger. Stadium attendance is packed (except for Vanderbilt). Athletic Revenue is growing at all SEC schools without including their tv media revenue. Add Clemson, UNC, NCST and a University from the state of Virginia and while it just means more now, it’ll just mean much more in the future. Just sayin.
NOPE. The video-maker is unaware of Arizona law. ASU MUST be in the same league as UofA. This is a non-starter.
B1G isn't taking both Arizona schools
Although I can’t imagine the Board of Regents would ever allow one team (ASU or UofA) to switch conferences without the other, IT IS POSSIBLE if the board votes on this decision.
Side note: The Arizona Board of Regents (ABOR) is the governing body of Arizona's public university system. It provides policy guidance to Arizona State University, Northern Arizona University, the University of Arizona, and their branch campuses.
That is not a solid stipulation. Not set in stone for sure.
Personally I do not believe Arizona wants to be in the B10. Did you see them play BB today? Looking for a Big Sky invite.
Laws can be appealed. But IMO I believe if the state law is revoked, ASU joins the Big Ten. Arizona stays in the Big 12 or move up to the SEC.
Texas AM to big 10
Definitely possible