Been using K400 for the last 3 years...excited for this! No more dealing with the inconsistency of Synergy KB/Mouse sharing for switching between my desktop and laptop.
You’d think Logitech’s engineers would be smart enough to program the dongle to automatically pair with whatever connection might be open or simply not tie it to one of the three profiles at all, which would allow it to operate freely without any additional software.
Glad you reviewed this since I just saw this the other day and was wondering. I have the k400 you show in video k830 and an older model may be gen 1 k400. k830 is great for media center, and k400 is great for fast use with any limited use computer. Raspberry Pi's for example!
As a suggestion, a good free utility to enhance what you can do with your keyboard is autohotkey. You can redefine keys, mouse movements, etc to do all kinds of custom things. Tons of support online too.
When you mentioned using it with Shield, my questions are about functionality with the HDHomeRun and Plex apps. Logitech's Harmony Elite remote lacks keyboard functions and hopefully this fills that void. How much did you use these apps in your testing on the Shield?
Great review thanks mate. Subscribed. The only person that explains how the number 1 position and dongle works. Also learnt pinch to zoom. Been using windows for years and never knew. Cheers
Thanks a lot for your review! I made the mistake with position 1 and Bluetooth. I was about to return this keyboard because I couldn't set it up on a TV with the dongle. Now I know what I need to try next. If that doesn't work back to Best Buy it goes.
Looks like the config software is nicer on the K600, but the K830 still looks like the better keyboard. K830 also works with the dongle and Bluetooth. To me, it seems the K600 is a step backward from the K830
I had issues with the "Easy" switch keys, I had to install the "OPTIONS" software to reset the keyboard defaults, it really sucks!!!!....It should have something easier such a reset button and that's it...
How was it restored? I have not been able to reset the easy switch options, I am trying to use the "Restore Defaults" option in the Logitech Options application but it is not working😢
Not backlit right? Does logitech make a keyb9atd that 8s multi device, backlit with trackpad? A tab/phone cradle would be a bonus but i think 8m looking for a unicorn...🙄
How does this work with PLEX navigation. I would be real interested in this if it controls PLEX well in conjunction with my Mac Mini which has the PLEX app.
Who thought a circular trackpad was a good idea?! Small, inaccurate... And awkwardly shaped. I could see you struggling with the pinch-and-zoom. Great deatiled review as always! Not the same features but I think I'll keep my K400plus. 🙂
Amazing review. Very comprehensive and thorough. I have one question, Would you recommend K600 or K400 Plus? I would only be using it on my computer connected to TV. Won’t be using smart TV features but might use it on my ps4 but might not.
i find that the k400 is the best keyboard off this type logitech have made. k400+ was a big downhill as its range is worse for me. and this seems no better. did they go away from the button on the back to change devices ? ..
So, the trackpad will not work with all mac gestures right? Like you said, that the zoom is unable on mac. What about the 3 fingers to move from one desktop to another? will you recommend it for a mac user, or if I get it I should use an extra mouse. Thank you very much
Man this thing sounds like a serious pain in the ass. Thank you so much again for inexpensive review. You just saved me a bunch of cash and I'll stick with my k400. Jimmy not worth having to go through all that crap for the additional functionality at that price point.
Can you please help me with something. I just purchased a 60 inch Vizio E-series for about $450. And it’s really a great TV. Only trouble is it does not have a TV tuner built-in. I don’t think that’s too much of a problem because I know you still can have some kind of workaround. Can you please tell me what I need to do so I can get over the air channels. I think I have to buy a TV tuner is that correct it It’s like a little box that you just try and hook it up to the TV and then hook up the antenna to the box which is the TV tuner. Does it look like an old cable box. Please help me I would appreciate it very much love your videos and keep up the hard work. And merry Christmas or happy new year to
Hi, Sir. Great Review! As always.. Do you know that whether the trackpad/touchpad supports multi-gesture up to four fingers (windows precision driver trackpad)? Do u know any portable keyboard that does? Thank you before. -=VGE=-
$70 & no backlight for a media center keybd = dead in the water product. I noticed Lon didn't mention that near the beginning of the video bcuz half of us would have stopped watching at that point.
Checked the compatibility with my model TV Samsung: There's no text entry for youtube..wtf? That's basically the whole point of a keyboard, the clickers are awful.
I don't know why this isn't sold under the Logitech Harmony brand. They'd probably get away with the high price if it had a touchscreen and Harmony compatibility.
Great video! It literally had the bit I needed to know about re-pairing the dongle...now where the absolute fuck is the online user manua logitechl!?!?!
I almost bought this piece of trash instead of the K830. Thank god I went with the K830 instead. Nevermind that the compatibility issues aren't well documented. The keyboard should have worked well to begin with, but it doesn't. There's a no reason it should be this complex just to connect a freaking keyboard.
Don't compare them to the K400 and K380, compare it to the K830! Those are obsolete for years now!!!!!!! Pffffff...... Also, Logitech's software and drivers are the most autistic, device-breaking crap, in human history!!!!!!!!!! Their response?? "We'll replace your product"........... I had 5 mice replacements in 1-2 months, while the issue still persists to this day!! The tech support are autists, and don't know hardware and software are 2 different things! Best wireless keyboard for HTPC, TV and Gaming, is the Corsair K83. That thing is awesome!!!!!! ;)
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Been using K400 for the last 3 years...excited for this! No more dealing with the inconsistency of Synergy KB/Mouse sharing for switching between my desktop and laptop.
Me too. I like the USB compatibility of this new keyboard.
You’d think Logitech’s engineers would be smart enough to program the dongle to automatically pair with whatever connection might be open or simply not tie it to one of the three profiles at all, which would allow it to operate freely without any additional software.
Wow! Amazing in-depth review! I love how you really USE the device and find all the nuances and ticks and give us a FULL picture. Well done!
Glad you reviewed this since I just saw this the other day and was wondering. I have the k400 you show in video k830 and an older model may be gen 1 k400. k830 is great for media center, and k400 is great for fast use with any limited use computer. Raspberry Pi's for example!
THANKS for the video! I needed to know how to use some of the extra features. I love this keyboard, but just got it and don't know everything on it.
As a suggestion, a good free utility to enhance what you can do with your keyboard is autohotkey. You can redefine keys, mouse movements, etc to do all kinds of custom things. Tons of support online too.
When you mentioned using it with Shield, my questions are about functionality with the HDHomeRun and Plex apps. Logitech's Harmony Elite remote lacks keyboard functions and hopefully this fills that void. How much did you use these apps in your testing on the Shield?
Great review thanks mate. Subscribed. The only person that explains how the number 1 position and dongle works. Also learnt pinch to zoom. Been using windows for years and never knew. Cheers
using several k400/+ I stand them up in a letter sorter it holds 5 keyboards may get this when on sale.
Thanks. Great review. You covered so many of my questions, and a lot more helpful info. Thanks again.
what is the website you use in 4:23? my keyboard had a different website and I think it did not fully set up all the features.
Many thanks for your great review and explaining your independent position on reviewing things.
what is that lenovo keyboard at 0:50?
Typing sound test is essential when you do a keyboard review.
Good point. I had not thought about that!
Thanks a lot for your review! I made the mistake with position 1 and Bluetooth. I was about to return this keyboard because I couldn't set it up on a TV with the dongle. Now I know what I need to try next. If that doesn't work back to Best Buy it goes.
How do you pair this with Mac Mini 2019 with Catalina?
Is it TRULY a Windows 10 Precision Touchpad? AKA does it use Precision drivers and 4 finger swipe gestures for multi-desktop, etc?
Looks like the config software is nicer on the K600, but the K830 still looks like the better keyboard. K830 also works with the dongle and Bluetooth. To me, it seems the K600 is a step backward from the K830
I had issues with the "Easy" switch keys, I had to install the "OPTIONS" software to reset the keyboard defaults, it really sucks!!!!....It should have something easier such a reset button and that's it...
How was it restored? I have not been able to reset the easy switch options, I am trying to use the "Restore Defaults" option in the Logitech Options application but it is not working😢
I still haven't figured out how to select a folder or anything, and then drag them to the recycle bin. How is that done?
I think you'd be better off waiting for a sale on the k830. It is a really good keyboard...
Not backlit right? Does logitech make a keyb9atd that 8s multi device, backlit with trackpad? A tab/phone cradle would be a bonus but i think 8m looking for a unicorn...🙄
And how's the "typing performance"?? Is it easy and comfortable to typing?? Or it is hard and stressful??
too bad that K600 TV do not have "Print Screen" button like K400, K400 Plus.
I've been looking at the k400 (basic bedroom use)…. think im going that route
How does this work with PLEX navigation. I would be real interested in this if it controls PLEX well in conjunction with my Mac Mini which has the PLEX app.
Mike J it works really well with the plex app on MAC mini!
work tap two fingers to right click on Windows?
I really like the form factor and look of this one but my budget is saying to get the K400 Plus instead
I have the microsoft one.the range sucks. my htpc is behind my tv and the keyboard sketches out. maybe this is better?
can you turn on a samsung tv with this?
I would like to know the answer to this too!
Who thought a circular trackpad was a good idea?! Small, inaccurate... And awkwardly shaped. I could see you struggling with the pinch-and-zoom.
Great deatiled review as always! Not the same features but I think I'll keep my K400plus. 🙂
Hello, good evening. Do you happen to have any idea on why my logik600 keep typing numbers, about 4 numbers+ and a letter when hit a letter? Thanks
i guess, it's not a 'slim' one, but the buttons r those 'scissor-mechanics', like? 'slim' meaning like those alloy '5mm'-thin kbs...
Amazing review. Very comprehensive and thorough. I have one question, Would you recommend K600 or K400 Plus? I would only be using it on my computer connected to TV. Won’t be using smart TV features but might use it on my ps4 but might not.
We just need a refresh of the dinovo mini
i find that the k400 is the best keyboard off this type logitech have made. k400+ was a big downhill as its range is worse for me. and this seems no better. did they go away from the button on the back to change devices ? ..
Hello Lon. Will this work on Nvidia shield too?
Can it "Pinch to Zoom" or Split Screen on the Nvidia Shield?
How did you get the Bluetooth to work with your MAC? I have not been successful with that.
Does it have Windows Precision touchpad? can I use multifingers gestures on Windows or Mac?
If you have the K400 Plus is there a point of getting this other than aesthetics?
I don't think so unless you want to have multiple devices paired
So, the trackpad will not work with all mac gestures right? Like you said, that the zoom is unable on mac. What about the 3 fingers to move from one desktop to another? will you recommend it for a mac user, or if I get it I should use an extra mouse. Thank you very much
Any chance you still have this and can see if it works with iPadOS 13 / iOS 13 with the trackpad?
Does it work with iOS 13.4?
Seeing as this is a TV KEYBOARD it would have been nice to see a review with an actual Smart Tv...
I have the k400 plus thinking of getting this one would you recommend it or just stick with the 400 will be using the Nvidia shield
Man this thing sounds like a serious pain in the ass. Thank you so much again for inexpensive review. You just saved me a bunch of cash and I'll stick with my k400. Jimmy not worth having to go through all that crap for the additional functionality at that price point.
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They should Backlight it for the win!!!! No Bueno for me.
Great review. Thanks
How long do the batteries last?
2 days
Can you please help me with something. I just purchased a 60 inch Vizio E-series for about $450. And it’s really a great TV. Only trouble is it does not have a TV tuner built-in. I don’t think that’s too much of a problem because I know you still can have some kind of workaround. Can you please tell me what I need to do so I can get over the air channels. I think I have to buy a TV tuner is that correct it It’s like a little box that you just try and hook it up to the TV and then hook up the antenna to the box which is the TV tuner. Does it look like an old cable box. Please help me I would appreciate it very much love your videos and keep up the hard work. And merry Christmas or happy new year to
In Australia the 400+ costs $60 and $75 for the K600 AUD we always get ripped off...NOT COMPATIBLE WITH PANASONIC TV's
How about Roku boxes?
How about TiVo Bolt ?
Won't work with the Roku not sure about the Tivo.
@@LonSeidman Thanks for answering.
I kinda figured as much.
No tap-to-click?
K400 Plus is 20 bucks, the k600 is 65, the k400 even has a square trackpad, what were they thinking lol
I'm going to use this between my HTPC and my webos OLED , thinking it'll go well :D
Hi, Sir. Great Review! As always..
Do you know that whether the trackpad/touchpad supports multi-gesture up to four fingers (windows precision driver trackpad)?
Do u know any portable keyboard that does?
Thank you before.
-=VGE=-
Why so expensive?
Deal breaker, no back light. come on logi.
$70 & no backlight for a media center keybd = dead in the water product.
I noticed Lon didn't mention that near the beginning of the video bcuz half of us would have stopped watching at that point.
Logitech must be top heavy with executives to be this bone-headed.
Its 40usd now. Buying right now. Shame not having back light.
If only Logitech upgraded the flimsy mini USB port on the K830 all would be just fine. COME ON Logitech you can do this!!!
Touch type?
Checked the compatibility with my model TV Samsung: There's no text entry for youtube..wtf? That's basically the whole point of a keyboard, the clickers are awful.
Really confused about how android tv hasn't destroyed all these ridiculous tv oses yet.
Sony has already endorsed Android TV, others will follow!
Maybe because it is buggy as fuck and crashes all the time like any other Android device.
I don't know why this isn't sold under the Logitech Harmony brand. They'd probably get away with the high price if it had a touchscreen and Harmony compatibility.
Make it smaller and add an air mouse functionality.
the backlit kills it
No page up and page down? Fail.
Wow I didn't catch that. Wow. No backlight & no paging keys? Wow $70?
No back light on a living room keyboard ... really??? I will stick with my k830.
You are doing a review and you are saying that batteries last 2-3 years, and the truth is 2-3 days maximum.
Absolutely unacceptable that you can’t use a keyboard to search on the RUclips tv app!!!
It’s a keyboard. How are the keys?!
Great video! It literally had the bit I needed to know about re-pairing the dongle...now where the absolute fuck is the online user manua logitechl!?!?!
it is too small, it would be easy to touch the keys by mistake......
Rip dinovo mini, circa 2010. The fancy looking gadget built to expire. What a POS that was.
I almost bought this piece of trash instead of the K830. Thank god I went with the K830 instead. Nevermind that the compatibility issues aren't well documented. The keyboard should have worked well to begin with, but it doesn't. There's a no reason it should be this complex just to connect a freaking keyboard.
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Don't compare them to the K400 and K380, compare it to the K830! Those are obsolete for years now!!!!!!! Pffffff......
Also, Logitech's software and drivers are the most autistic, device-breaking crap, in human history!!!!!!!!!! Their response?? "We'll replace your product"........... I had 5 mice replacements in 1-2 months, while the issue still persists to this day!! The tech support are autists, and don't know hardware and software are 2 different things!
Best wireless keyboard for HTPC, TV and Gaming, is the Corsair K83. That thing is awesome!!!!!! ;)
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Utterly useless because the touchpad is terrible. Scrolling, pointer is terrible.