Collagen is 💯. My right hip and hubby’s left shoulder dodged the surgeon’s knife. We decided to take collagen BEFORE going in for the recommended surgical procedures. Within 2 months of taking 20-30 grams collagen daily (both of us) pain reduced 90%. In 7 months we were 100%. What the imaging scans look like now, we don’t know, but for now we are soooo good🙂🙏🏽
Great to see people over 50/60 being given the air time to share their experiences. After all, (we) have had more time through our journey's to experiment with all kinds of nutritional and hydration options. Yet we are often over looked by the "younger" community as they think they know best. I learnt all of my great balanced eating habits from my 90 year old grandfather.
Because the health experience of young people is more important to young people who make up the audience. Don't do the same representation nonsense as gen z. This was a great interview I enjoyed though.
Why do people think there is some significant difference in optimal diet and activity as you age? Low carb, moderate/strenous activity most days, good sleep - those are constants to health across all ages. Notice how big change was lower carbs because he’s NOT an athlete anymore, not strictly because he’s 70y old.
Age has nothing to do with food. Every one is human regardless if you're 20 or 80. The only real difference is the elderly require more fat for brain health. Considering the sky rocketing rates of Dimentia and Type 3 Diabities(Alzheimers Disease) it's in your best interest to consume as much fatty red meat as possible.
This was a great interview! Thank you Thomas for addressing the issues we older folks face with our fitness levels. I am a 70 year old weightlifter, and fitness nut, and he is right about listening to your own body. I normally would train every other day, but now I notice I need an extra day. On those off days I have bought a rebounder and I will do a 15 min workout, carefully, and I love it. It’s fun!! I walk the beach every morning because it’s fun!! I am playing racket ball, with myself, after my weight workout just because it feels so good. It’s all about having fun now, and why not!!! AND I whole heartedly agree that stretching is an important component to add as you age!! ❤
Mark got me started on eating, and exercising right. This was over a decade ago. Thanks to both of you for your path finding. Both of you guys have helped me, and many others. Again, thank you both.
I started playing basketball again at 41. Immediately got Achilles tendinitis. Started dropping collagen in my coffee every morning and cooking with bone broth. Still playing ball, lifting, super active and zero tendinitis. Collagen supplements work.
Carnivore diet for four months. 71 yoa, lost 30lbs, off BP meds with BP average 120/75, all arthritis pain gone, mentally in a much better place with tons of energy. Non-diabetic reactive hypoglycemia gone, blood glucose is now normal with hA1C down to 5.3 from pre-diabetic. Fasting insulin is down to 7 from close to 15. I've never felt better to the point I am now doing five 20 second wind sprints 2-3 times per week plus using weights at home.
@@joseph-the-seventhsome good watches on YT for carniv are dr ken berry, dr Anthony chaffee, dr elizabeth bright, Kelly hogan, kerry from homestead how channel, dr kiltz, steak and butter gal
I eat a healthy breakfast and healthy early lunch then NO food until the next morning breakfast.... and I do not get hungry... Basically keto diet and intermittent fasting and it has really worked for me. I do not worry about "breaking" the rules when I am in social situations....
First book I read in my health journey 14 years ago was Primal Blueprint. That helped me a lot. Now I’m 51 and still thriving, especially compared to all my buddies with beer guts. 😂
Mark, you got me started many, many years ago - about 15 years I think - can’t thank you enough. You have so much common sense. Thanks for all you’ve done and shared and thanks to Thomas for this interview. Excellent.
Agree 💯regarding the use of collagen in terms of healing injuries. I had a knee issue that many would have said needed surgery but I was able to see it get better with the use of collagen peptides (and prayer)
I'm 65 and what works best for me is no more than 2 meals a day, no eating at night. My first meal is higher fat and protein to curb cravings during the day. But my later meal may have some carbs (they make me tired so I wait until I'm not as active). I do biking, walking, swimming (500 meters per day). Will be adding weight training again soon (summer camping threw me off). On this very doable routine I've been able to maintain a steady weight of plus/minus 140 lbs (at 5'11"). My energy is good and I don't look my age.
I'm in my 50s and find that two meals, even well-planned, won't give me adequate nutrients, so now I have gone 3 meals a day and problem gone in terms of enough daily vitamins, minerals, protein, etc.
I had to switch up my carbs. Adding in a few with my carnivore diet aka ketovore… morning carbs. My curse is evening munching and if my dinner meal is zero carbs… no issues. Keeping busy during the day isn’t my issues hence no cravings
Mark was such an influence on my health... he started me on the path to Paleo so many moons ago, made a huge difference on my health... That was a great interview! Thanks
Then I think about George Burns who died at 100 years old. His recipe for long life was be around positive people, don't stress or worry. He walked everywhere and had a very positive mind set. Oh yes, always loved his cigars right up to his death. But he enjoyed his life. I think that is key, enjoy, relax and live one day at a time.
@@hokeywolf3416Yes, I'm 83 and have smoked one a day since I'm 12. Look up Richard Overton, the oldest man in America who smokes 6-12 cigars a day since WW2.
Another great video! Mark Sisson ... get your hip replaced and have your mobility back to 100%. The very best thing I've done for myself, now 74yo, had both replaced almost ten years ago. LIFE CHANGING!
The body self heals where as mechanical joints need replacing when they wear out. The problem you will face in 5 to 10 years is that the system may not be able to replace them, 2nd replacements are no where near as good as the 1st or it will be horribly expensive. Not everyone wants to abdicate their health to a broken and expensive system just because it's perceived as 'easier' than putting in th work to heal ourself.
@@Oilfieldscout I was the same, so I understand. Fast forward 12 months and I'm back to walking pain free. The body heals, you have to find out why you were bone on bone to begin with, as joints are designed to last a lifetime. I had so many people telling me to get a mechanical joint, yet that wouldn't have changed the underlying issues, and would have lead to a second mechanical hip and eventually my knees. I haven't met a single person who didn't need at least 1 more joint replacing within 5 years of the first. Now you've had the first, please make sure you never need a second. Good luck.
i been doing carnivore diet for 5 years now, best thing i ever did, hard to sell supplements to people on keto/carnivore diet , i assume this is why fitness influencers are jumping ship from keto/carnivore
@@claudeknowltonactor There are many who are. No scientific evidence that cholesterol causes any disease. Actually, many studies show the opposite. That higher cholesterol in later life are protective for many disease. Another plug for eating more fatty meat.
Great info Thomas. Love learning from Sisson as he learns and grows. I really appreciate the direction of your channel, Thomas. Love that you are curious with an open mind. Keep up the great work!
Hi Mark, Don’t fear hip replacement surgery. I endured unbearable pain for 2 years and became almost totally inactive. Had robotic surgery in NYU Langone and walking the next morning with minimal discomfort. I was back to work after 3 weeks, and by 5 weeks I was on stationary bike, swimming and taking 1 mile walks. I now have full range of motion too.
Mark is a breath of fresh air listening to him speak about his lifestyle of balance and fun. I heard him on another podcast talk about his interest in ultimate frisbee and he seems to be most interested in finding joy in his lifestyle which is admirable.
When I was in my 20s, I forced myself to drink. I stopped doing that, because it made me get up to pee 4-5x per night. Now I only drink when I am thirsty. I stopped forcing myself to eat breakfast, and only eat when I am hungry. These changes have liberated me in all kinds of ways. When I ate 3 meals a day, I got hangry. Intermediate fasting/eating when I am hungry has gotten rid of those hangry episodes.
@@kellrockets101 No, my metabolism makes it so that I only gain weight when I exercise. If I don't exercise, I get skinny. Only time that I don't exercise is when I injure myself or my arthritis acts up.
This man is a breath of fresh air on the fitness scene because he is not overdoing anything. I especially love his position on hydration and not overthinking stuff.
Carnivore adjacent. Exactly what I am. Mark is the OG. I read his book primal blueprint 7 years ago. Still has an impact on me to this today. Mark’s not afraid to change his mind on things. Rare breed. Mark for president.
@@ReneAensland that you eat carnivore most of the time but also occasionally eat vegetables, nuts, fruits, and even grains (for me that is only white rice and very rarely potatoes). But that these foods comprise only a small component of your diet. Around 20 percent or less.
Your comment is exactly the reason why nobody should have power over others. People make mistakes, surely. People can and should change their mind, as they realize there is a better way, fine. However you should only live your mistakes, not ones somebody forced you into. Nobody for president. Nobody has the capacity to run the lives of others.
Great interview. I appreciate Mark Sisson’s decision to hold off on the hip replacement surgery, although I’m sure there are times when he just wants relief. Working on his nutrition will definitely help in the event that he changes his mind in the future. Sometimes people think that because modern medicine has become advanced that, they can rely on a surgeon to fix the problem. It doesn’t always work out that way. My father suffered from four different types of cancers over a period of 20 years. He would have a surgery, get chemo and radiation, then go into remission. Then the next cancer would emerge, and he would go through the same cycle. Eventually, he thought he was indestructible. He suffered from a particular type of arthritis most of his life that was genetic for him. So at age 69 he wanted a hip replacement. He found a doctor that would do it. 20 years of cancers, and he passed away from that hip replacement surgery. He was also diabetic. They could not filter his blood enough to keep him from becoming septic. Doctors will collect insurance as long as insurance allows them to. If only he would have changed his diet and nutrition during those 20 years, but he was so dependent on doctors and surgeons coming to his rescue. In my family I have relatives that live to their late 90s. Nutrition is important.
I am sorry for your loss, but this story is inspiring while sad on a personal note for you. I am a doctor myself and sadly, people around me turn a deaf ear when I make this point to them. I am in a state of despair and have almost given up with them.
Sorry about your dad😢 But this story hardly relates to Mark's hip replacement need. His diet is not gonna fix the fact that he's bone on bone. That means there is no cartilage there to cushion the joint. Cartilege is not gonna magically appear from Mark's overdosing on collagen. He's taking 30g a day? (I guess he believes in 'more is better'...even when it isn't.) Thomas did point this out to Mark - there IS no cartilage to build on or improve - its not gonna magically appear. I thought the exact opposite of you re the hip replacement - that he shouldn't wait - he's not getting any younger. There's no cartilage there. And here's the thing - with no cushioning in that socket whatsoever - the socket will wear away. No socket - no option for a hip replacement. I do know of someone who waited too long - put it off- put it off... then tried to go for it, and her socket was worn away, so surgery was no longer an option. That's an extreme case, but it can happen. IMO Mark should go for the hip replacement now. His need is inevitable. He shouldn't wait till he's even another year older. Thomas did try to tell him, but I think he just brushed it off. Surgery at an older age can be scary - maybe that's a part of why he seems to want to keep putting it off.
I started taking collagen/gelatin at age 45, after 8 years of tendinitis and joint pain. I am 51 now and feel like I did in my 30s before I injured myself. I am back to doing calisthenics and gained 15 pounds of muscle from exercise. Before collagen, I felt like I was 85 and had a hard time getting out of a chair, low back pain especially. I also added MSM, ascorbic acid and Mg citrate. This is my morning cocktail, after my morning workout.
@@jonastjernberg I would be inclined to agree with that, except that my cousin was having problems with his shoulder to the point that he could not play frisbee golf anymore. He only supplemented collagen and restored the function of his shoulder. For this reason, I continue the gelatin even though it is the most expensive ingredient of my regimen. Personally, it only makes sense since contemporary diet favors meat and not so much skin and hooves and such.
A gelatin dessert made with grass fed beef gelatin and fruity herbal tea. No sweetener required. 11 grams protein in 1 tablespoon dissolved in. 75 cups tea. Jells beautifully and tastes great.
Mad respect for Mark. First of all, if I can make it to 70 and be there for my family I will be a happy man, but to make it there in the kind of shape he is in, with the insights that he has is very impressive. Love the content lately.
Just excellent information, guys, thank you so much! I’m 60, and keen to make adjustments so I eat and workout optimally, but without the intensity I might have once had (ie - my motivation is mainly about what’s practically achievable at my age - while still being at my best). In that sense this video is incredibly helpful 🙏
I’m 61 , trained all my adult life , but have found it tough the last few years , But have a new lease of life with taking some peptides and moderate amount of ( prescribed ) testosterone Feel 15 years younger in the gym , stronger , muscle pump is back
I'm 72 and eat and think much like Mark, thanks for confirming I am doing some things right. I got a dog that forces me to walk twice a day, briskly for and hour early morning and an hour in the afternoon. This has really changed my life especially my leg muscles. I even do some sprinting which not that long ago I never thought I would be able to do again. I stay mostly Keto but eat healthy starches like Kabocha and sweet potato, natto. I do not each much greens due to the pesticides they bring although in summer I enjoy a salad daily of avocado, tomato, cucumber and tofu. I feel great!
The image quality of this podcast is amazing such detail 👌, I am 63yr & what Mark says about getting tight I can agree ,I always feel like I need to do more stretching 🙂
I am late 40s. Primarily workout with my home kettlebells, dip station, and pull up bar. I agree about not needing as many calories. I was an Army Officer and retired last year, The high tempo while active duty has changed. I would get up at 0400 and go until late and work also was intense and I needed fuel. I still work, but much less intense. I just don't need that much food anymore.
I really appreciated your comment! I am 62 and I eat fewer meals and consume smaller portions, My wife is worried about me (you need to eat more...) and I simply tell her that I feel better than ever I just do not need to eat as much as I once did.... Thank you for your service to our country!
Very interesting interview. You lose your thirst mechanism as you get older, as you lose muscle protein synthesis - ability to uptake protein. Sisson should know this. There are physiological changes as we get older. However, I have learned so much from these two. Sisson has done a great job bringing real health to the forefront.
Loved this talk. Im 54 now 5'7" female and been doing crossfit for over 15 years. As my body changes with perimenopause, i know that my nutrition needs are changing too, especially with regards to hormonal changes. Im now understanding somewhat reluctantly, that i cant and more importantly go like i used to because metabolically it's now counter productive to recovery and adrenal fatigue and cortisol outcomes. Im eating up the knowledge from these talks and hoping tjat some of it applies to my current status.
I also recommend Dr. Mindy Pelz for her insight into fasting for women at the different stages of life and at different times in the monthly cycle for those who still have a cycle. I think Dr. Marie Claire Haver is great but disagree with her 16 hours daily fasting. The body adapts. You need to occasionally vary your fasting time.
I'm 56, meno at 52, and twice a week CrossFit with some light running or mountain biking and an hour of power (vinyasa) yoga once a week seems to be a good balance. I've had to face the reality of cortisol and adrenals too, had to stop everything for awhile. Found myself (an athletic CrossFitter and runner) actually sobbing with fatigue during a yoga class during peri! Realized we need to eat enough and be gentle with ourselves at this stage in life.
This is what most people mix up and confused; Exercise for Health vs Exercise for Performance. You shouldn't be exercising for performance unless you're a professional athlete. You're causing more harm and damage to your body than you need to. Dealifting 2-3x your body weight or running for 20km... for what??? Exercise with the effective dose. Excessive and too much are never good and is redundant.
@@BrandonLynch-lj8kxdepends on age and sex...65 yr old woman full body strength 2x a week, cardio 2-3 x per week.then add some pilates or yoga always walking
But people don’t understand this. Woman for example don’t understand, that it is NOT Healthy to be thin with muscles and low bodyfat. Yeah, you’re looking fit…but your not healthy. Look at all these fitness people, who have abs and eat clean. I bet in 20 to 30 years, when this people get older they begin to dying much more earlier as the average guy. You need a little bit weight lifting and a little bit endurance, but look at the people, they don’t listen to their body’s. Most of them need Booster for training, because their body is tired. They don’t listen, because they young and they believe they are the kings of the world. Fitnessindustry is full of people with bodydysmorphia and eating disorder. They think they smarter than their body’s. BUT in these days, we don’t understand enough how our body work. We believe it, we know a little bit … but it’s not enough. On one hand, we pray eat clean, eat pure stuff at the other hand, we eat all this Fitness industry stuff. In 20-30 years we will laugh at what we do today. period.
The harsh reality is that many amateurs just don’t care about health. They want to lift a bunch of weight or run ungodly distances because it makes them feel good about themselves. Or it’s something to work towards. They might tell you they think it’s healthy or they might not. But we can’t assume that everyone is trying to maximize longevity.
I really like this comment. The "for what" question. My brother always says "I'm not an athlete and I'm not a body builder, take it easy but get it done."
At 82 I have been a Naturopathic doctor for 50 years. I was educated in the Natural Hygiene movement: Dr Shelton, Isaac Jennings, John Tilden etc. The mixed diet ( basically Mediterranean) has worked well for me, with emphasis on vegetables and fruits, but some meat and fish, but not overdoing the protein. Dr Longo says seniors crave more protein, maybe because of less efficient assimilation. I've never been an athlete but for the last 5 years or so I have been following a modified Mike Mentzer lifting routine, which emphasizes long recovery time. The thing is to get lean. I'm happy to see some actual gains. I really think it's important to modulate animal protein intake. Those big molecules can be a burden to the kidneys. I enjoyed the interview
Hey, another veteran of Natural Hygiene here, via Fit for Life and their magazine for many years. I eat the complete opposite nowadays, but don't really regret my time eating that way.
My favourite drink and i have a large glass first thing in the morning is 49% sparkling water 49% kombucha (sugar free) a dash of ACV and a pinch of sea salt or red Himalayan rock salt. Very refreshing
Tom, really enjoy your last couple videos with the interviews. I know you the answers to your questions but like how you let the guest provide their insights. Appreciate the content and format. Have learned a lot from your videos. Keep up the great work.
I had sten cell injections in my hips back in 2016 (from my fat and bone marrow). Took pain away for 4+ years. I could have tried them again rather than get replacements but it is just so expensive and I had the insurance to do replacements for almost nothing - so I went that route almost 2 years ago. Unfortunately money makes it prohibitive for most people. Replacements were a long recovery but took away the pain.
Mike Mentzer knew what he was talking about..I'm 51 and growing like crazy while lifting with my 19 year old son.....please listen to Mike Mentzer and his technique..You won't regret it. ❤
May I ask best sources for his optimal training methods? I believe in essence it is based on long recovery periods working a muscle group to exhausting once per week.
“I’m done with Paleo”! What’s with the misleading title. Thomas your a knowledgeable guy and a great host. I’m 51 and live my health and fitness and sure I enjoyed this video, but I’m refusing to watch unsubstantiated click bait anymore. Please use relevant titles!
I’m 78, vegetarian over 50 years…. dropped 20 kgs prior to mcl cancer diagnosis 15 months ago, reluctantly accepted 3 rounds of chemo but I’m sure keto assisted in my keeping cancer at bay… Thx Mark, you are my best educator for sure…. Today’s video showed me the importance of keeping protein up a little, consider collagen supplements and going back to NOT measuring hydration…. You offer the best balanced information…. thank you… My negative Oncologist firmly believes my cancer will return, however at 78 it’s quality of life not quantity…. Btw I have my own outdoor kitchen and have become a fine dining keto chef, that even my wife raves about…. although I might have to add a few more eggs and tofu over the course of a week.
Even some of the people worried about a high protein diet causing cancer think that the reverse is true once you are over 65. Plus there’s a potential cost of not eating enough protein, as you suggest. As a young guy, a combination of low protein and low testosterone gave me very low muscle mass and even osteoporosis in my mid-30’s (broke my leg falling at home). The need for protein is even higher when you are sedentary and/or eating less (sarcopenia progresses during these periods and a high protein diet is proven to mitigate the effect). So if chemo kills your appetite and ability to exercise, protein drinks are a very smart idea. Just like you, I’ve learned not to be dogmatic about this stuff. The best diet is very individual and can depend on the stage of life. Now that my body has recovered bone density and muscle mass, I have health concerns that are more typical of a guy my age. So I’m looking at reducing protein a bit and replacing more of it with plant sources.
@@FreedomFox1 Between the 2 of you, there's too much non-sense and dogma to dispell. keeping protein up a little, doesn't mean 160g. That's 3 TIMES what a large man needs. I get 43g. 10 years on. That's what the longest lived people get. I'm 55. Never broke a bone.
@@GaryHighFruit Like I said, the best diet is very personal… I would never pretend to know what’s best for you. If it works for you, then I’d say keep doing it!
@@FreedomFox1 I think the best diet for an individual is not far from everyone else's. Every squirrel eats the same. Even race horses are fed nearly the same for competition. Humans also have a specific diet we're meant for. High-carb & 45-70g protein has been shown to give longer life. Low-carb and clownavore have not.
I always enjoy your interviews with Mark Sisson! He always has interesting insights on the health community and makes great products under his Primal Kitchen brand that I buy. I agree that fats should not be seen as bad. Low fat, high sugar, and high starch diet have only increased obesity since the 70s.
Uh, he sold Primal Kitchen to a big food company quite a while ago. Keep an eye on those ingredients! I like and buy the Primal stuff, too. Had the steak sauce tonight, in fact!
Mark Sisson has made several changes to his diet as he has aged to focus on longevity and maintaining muscle mass: Reduced Caloric Intake: As he has cut back on intense exercise, Sisson has reduced his calorie intake, recognizing that he no longer needs as many calories due to his lower physical activity levels. Protein-Centric Diet: Sisson now prioritizes protein intake, aiming for a minimum of 120 grams per day. He focuses on ensuring that his meals are centered around protein, which helps maintain muscle mass as he ages. Cutting Back on Greens: Sisson has reduced the amount of greens in his diet and describes himself as "carnivore-adjacent," although he still occasionally consumes some berries and other non-meat foods. Flexible Eating Schedule: He no longer follows a strict eating schedule and often eats only two meals a day. His protein intake is spread over several days, and he is confident that his body efficiently utilizes amino acids even with varying daily intake. Mindful Fat Intake: While Sisson was one of the early proponents of not fearing fat, he now does not seek out extra fats in his diet. He focuses more on protein and does not consciously add fats to his meals unless it enhances the flavor. Collagen Supplementation: Recognizing the importance of collagen for connective tissue health, Sisson supplements with collagen, which he believes should be considered a fourth macronutrient, especially for athletes. Adjusting Workout Intensity: Sisson has modified his exercise routine to focus on maintaining muscle mass rather than endurance, avoiding overly intense, long-duration workouts that could lead to muscle loss. These adjustments reflect Sisson's focus on a diet that supports muscle maintenance, efficient protein use, and overall longevity as he ages.
fun vid too watch I am 60 been carnivore 4 years and as 5'11 male I did get back to my weight of my 20s and 30s at 178 lbs and maintained that with ease for last 3 years and just feel insane I am working out much harder now and for me still recovering just fine but not quite as old as Mark :) will be fun to look back when I am 70 and he looks great for 70 and sure he is doing what he finds optimum for him which is what each of us need to do :) and do agree we need to change and adapt and not just for age but as we go through our getting in shape journey and find out optimum I can say when I was younger which I had known what I know now but you can get away with a LOT more when under say 40 for me I am carnivore no desire to add things back in as the times I have tested things I notice that negative big time but that is me :) also OMAD I can't eat 2MAD just does not work as well for me :) but also totally OK with folks doing some fruit and veggies or nuts if they are happy that is what counts IMHO this is all individual for each of us :) and what makes us happy :)
As an endurance athlete myself, I have found my recovery and adaptation to training is much better when my protein intake is higher. I aim for 110-120g a day
@@trainwellracewell"muscle rebuilding after breakdown from workouts" How can you measure that? I've lifted plenty of weights in my life. I used to get sore in my teens & 20's. That stopped when I went high-fruit.
I love Mark and I was one of the first Primal Blueprint Health Coaches certified in the world. With that being said, as I went further and further into the “Primal” lifestyle it just wasn’t matching up to what I needed to fuel my body on a day to day basis. Having a child will keep you on your feet and moving and low carb was actually causing me to gain weight regardless of energy balance. As I’ve gotten older and my focus has turned more towards longevity, I’ve been research the blue zones and their diet. Paleo is a great framework but I don’t live 2 million years ago I’m living in 2023, the question then becomes what do the longest healthiest living people on the world do today? The answer for me is what I’ve coined a “Paleoterrian” diet where I combine the best of Paleo and Mediterranean. You’ve got to find what works for you and in the context of your life. Kudos to Mark for always being willing to adapt and take a different approach when warranted.
I'm 62, 5'6" 142lb. Rock climbing 2- 3 days a week and walking 1-2 hours a day are my exercise. Carbs on the low side of 50 -75 grams a day. Eating 100 grams of protein a day without a supplement like whey protein, which screws with my gut, feels absurd. I'm absolutely stuffing myself beyond satiation trying to get that much protein. Thoughts?
I got sick on Paleo because I was eating more veggies than a noodle, pasta, bread based vegetarian. Sally Norton saved my life with her knowledge regarding toxic ( oxalate) plant based diet.
At 46 (as of today🎉) i find that more moderate workouts, walking, more protein, and frequent smaller meals keep me super fit and energetic. 5'11", 125 lbs.
But you just don't need the high-protein. A lot of the excess turned to carbs. Your body is probably just benefitting from the carbs. And the less conversion the better... potatoes are better, and fruit even better because it's raw, easier to digest, and higher in nutrients.
I think Mark Sisson and Bryan Johnson should have a conversation together because Mark uses intuition to be healthy and Bryan wants to use algorithms to be healthy so they have two different ways of thinking with their approach to longevity.
September 1st, 2024 will "mark" eleven years that I've been following Mark's principles. I consider learning how to eat to be one of my super powers and am eternally grateful that I came across his advice.
12 years of extreme low carb dieting ruined my metabolism. 2 years ago, I could barely move in the late afternoon. I started eating fruits again (one of the gifts of Brazil, where I live), tubers and roots and my metabolism returned to normal. I once again had the energy to play with my children and exercise. I'm 52 years old.
Primal Blueprint was my first foray into the world of healthy eating 15 years ago. Thankfully I found it young, turning 40 next month and always stayed lean. Thank you Mark.
Excellent discussion - I always enjoy listening to varying perspectives on health into old age (I'm 71). I noted a comment about a product having FDA approval - and I would never use that as a benchmark! FDA is a completely bought-and-paid-for agency, and will approve or ban products based on the wishes of their corporate sponsors - and nothing else! In some cases, no amount of petitions or testimonials will sway their decision, even if it's from experienced, licensed practitioners, so I disregard anything they have to say!
I have been Keto for a couple years now and like Mark I concentrate on protein and not the fat. I have never consumed 200g fat in a day and have rarely ever had more than 150g of fat.
So should I become a fruitarian and supplement with protein powder? Will the fruit cause non-stop spikes in blood sugar? And how would I get enough fiber? One of my concerns with keto and carnivore is Omega-6-ing myself to death with inflammation or going broke buying 100% pastured livestock or wild seafood. Thanks.
I'm the person to answer your questions, not an anti-carb guru who takes steroids. "should I become a fruitarian and supplement with protein powder?" I recommend high fruit and a mix of other foods as I describe in the "Carboraider diet". "Will the fruit cause non-stop spikes in blood sugar?" Not high spikes. But spikes aren't the problem. The problem is when it STAYS too high. That's caused by fat.
27:14 I rarely feel thirsty and I'm prone to dehydration, fasciculations (muscle twitching) and muscle cramps -- a bad combination! -- therefore I have to force myself to drink. My hypothesis is the thirst mechanism is a very old brain function and can become overwhelmed by the giant forebrain we lug around.
I’ve been keto for over 27 years. I’ve helped thousands of clients lose weight and do not preached add fat for a ketogenic diet. The steak has plenty of fat 💪💪💪💪
I'm 62 and I agree, save the flavor of olive oil to drizzle on your veggies. I used to fry all my lean meat in oil until I figured that out. My breakfast these days is ground beef with berries, no fat needed.
All I hear is if I don't eat enough fat when doing carnivore or keto style diets the body breaks down protein into sugar for energy which is supposed to be really bad for your adrenal system. So confusing.
I don't take advice from Marketing Pros like Sisson, Saladino and Dave Asprey. They just switch back & forth between whatever they need to sell/ re-sell and revamp their product lines, books and gain attention for their own promotion. ALL Of these guys were PRO Saturated Fat like CRAZY about 5 years ago. Now it's all "I don't seek out Sat Fat" and "fruits are healthy".
@@mwilcox4791 missing the point... Why care what he says or thinks if its just revamped old spiel. Title says "radically changing his diet to Live Longer", capital L's on those. He talked nothing for 2 hours just to funnel in new customers for product lines. There are far better sources of nutritional information.
thanks for confirming my suspicions based on what looked like flip-flopping but haven't followed as long as you seemed to have, genuine question - what are some better channels out there that aren't either as extreme or restrictive but rather more wholesome?
Love these great guys! My age is in between, so I understand them both very well😉. Is Mark dry fasting for at least 72 hrs aswell? Grts from The Netherlands🍀
“If you look at a marathoner, even if they might lift weights, they weigh 40 pounds less than what they would weigh if they stopped running, ate more protein and lifted weights”. Exactly! That’s why they do what they do. They don’t want 40 pounds of extra weight.
He’s great to listen to and makes me think about priorities and values in life. Approaching 40 this is becoming more and more important. Two meals a day are not enough for me to keep muscle mass though 😂
There is a view that such high protein intake stimulates MTOR via its effect on UGF1. This promotes cell division and stem cell exhaustion which you do not want if your mitochondria are impaired as it promotes the growth of cancer cells and is linked to accelerated aging. In any case talking about protein intake rather than quality and amino acid supply is wrong with leucine needed for muscle repair and glutamic acid to be minimized as it promotes the growth of cancer cells.
Most people don't seem to have a problem with fat intake. If you're reasonably active, you'll burn it off fairly easily, as long as you're very low-carb. But for some people, they'll gain weight with too much dietary fat.
I need pork in my diet. It just tastes way better than any other meat. So even though it is lower on the nutrient density scale, I add it into stews or soups or even ground meat balls either with beef, bison, or lamb. Neck bones are a less expensive cut for pork. For beef try oxtails on sale...the best tasting beef dor my palate. You have to cook it for a few hours or instapot for 45-60 mins...but so delicious. And if you allow spices, there are many good tasty ways of preparing them.
Totally agree with the obsession of water consumption. I damaged my bladder, permanently, by drinking too much water. My Urologist has told me to drink to thirst.
@@JB-hq9yj LOL…first of all you’re rude! Second of all, I damaged the detrusor muscle that contracts when you empty your bladder due to drinking too much on a long country drive. So now my bladder tells me it’s full when it’s actually empty. It’s called “overactive bladder” and it’s a common illness. So I have to sedate myself every evening or I can’t fall asleep and have had to retire early. I have also had to have a sacral nerve implant which tries to re-route the impulse from my bladder to my brain to try to settle and calm my bladder. Not a medical marvel…you just don’t know of every illness in the whole world. That’s surprising when you’re a brainiac 😊🙄
@@CAEO416yes overactive bladder is a common symptom associated with aging. You are the only case I have ever heard of brought on seemingly by one acute episode of supposedly drinking too much water. It’s generally a chronic situation brought on over time. I can’t tell if you are to be taken seriously or not but either way that does not sound fun and hope you find some relief.
@@JB-hq9yjI did develop it after one drinking episode. I was stuck in a car and kept on drinking (foolishly) even though my bladder was full. (I had no idea this could happen) By the time I emptied my bladder there would have been over 1.5 litres of pee that I voided. Urodynamics showed that my bladder was extremely active even when empty after this episode. I was thirty! That’s not old. It has gotten worse since I’ve aged and a lot of women do experience it for the first time in menopause, but not to the extent that I have. They may get up a few times a night to go to the toilet. My bladder is very active, every second of my life. That is not a common symptom of overactive bladder. I have even tried Botox injected into my bladder which is now the gold standard treatment but unfortunately it didn’t help. It is horrible, thank you. Life goes on….
It goes without saying that we have to change our diet as we age. I found out over the years what works best for me. I'm a 69-yr-old female and now eat higher protein and vegetables, lower carbs, healthy fats. Very importantly, I also do Intermittent Fasting, which allows the Migratory Motor Complex (MMC) to do its thing. It's critically important for good gut health and doing IF also helps to maintain my weight. Yes, collagen is important not only for hair, nails, and skin (and I've noticed the benefits!), but bones and the immune system. My activity is moderate: Pilates, walking, some light lifting. Btw, macadmia nuts are *very* high in calories, so not the greatest for us older individuals. Best for the very active. ;)
OK I do make bone broth from Grassfed beef bones. I put organic vegetable stock in instead of water.. any suggestions on how to improve that nutritional value?? Also, what type of collagen do you suggest? I am particularly interested in collagen that may help my damaged retina in my left eye. a central occlusion seven years ago. I am not blind, but I don’t drive anymore. Any thoughts on how to improve that with some type of collagen, or any other way? Thank you. I think you an amazing researcher. You just pull everything together and unless anybody else up there.
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Collagen is 💯. My right hip and hubby’s left shoulder dodged the surgeon’s knife. We decided to take collagen BEFORE going in for the recommended surgical procedures. Within 2 months of taking 20-30 grams collagen daily (both of us) pain reduced 90%. In 7 months we were 100%. What the imaging scans look like now, we don’t know, but for now we are soooo good🙂🙏🏽
There is very little scientific data that collagen does anything.
Is collagen the same as beef gelatin?
Yes, Collagen with peptides, HA, ceramides, MSM and enzymes to eat away the scar tissues, that will save you from surgery!
What collagen sources do you use, please?
What brand do you do please
Great to see people over 50/60 being given the air time to share their experiences. After all, (we) have had more time through our journey's to experiment with all kinds of nutritional and hydration options. Yet we are often over looked by the "younger" community as they think they know best. I learnt all of my great balanced eating habits from my 90 year old grandfather.
Dude, this random 50/60 year old started “Primal Kitchen”. He sold it to Kraft in 2018 for 200 million.
Brilliant response 100% agree
Yeah I overlook you for sure, totally. Why would I care about you?
and actually he's 70 :) @@jnnx
Because the health experience of young people is more important to young people who make up the audience. Don't do the same representation nonsense as gen z. This was a great interview I enjoyed though.
LOVE that you are addressing age related topics! There are alot of us older folks out there who are very interested in staying well. Thank you!!! ❤
Agree 100%. Most of these presentations are geared to the 40 and under crowd. This really helps!!
Why do people think there is some significant difference in optimal diet and activity as you age? Low carb, moderate/strenous activity most days, good sleep - those are constants to health across all ages. Notice how big change was lower carbs because he’s NOT an athlete anymore, not strictly because he’s 70y old.
Look into Peter Attia
Absolutely
Age has nothing to do with food. Every one is human regardless if you're 20 or 80. The only real difference is the elderly require more fat for brain health. Considering the sky rocketing rates of Dimentia and Type 3 Diabities(Alzheimers Disease) it's in your best interest to consume as much fatty red meat as possible.
This was a great interview! Thank you Thomas for addressing the issues we older folks face with our fitness levels. I am a 70 year old weightlifter, and fitness nut, and he is right about listening to your own body. I normally would train every other day, but now I notice I need an extra day. On those off days I have bought a rebounder and I will do a 15 min workout, carefully, and I love it. It’s fun!! I walk the beach every morning because it’s fun!! I am playing racket ball, with myself, after my weight workout just because it feels so good. It’s all about having fun now, and why not!!! AND I whole heartedly agree that stretching is an important component to add as you age!! ❤
rebounder is trampoline in english lol
Mark got me started on eating, and exercising right. This was over a decade ago. Thanks to both of you for your path finding. Both of you guys have helped me, and many others. Again, thank you both.
Mark set me on my path when I bought Primal Blueprint in 2009 when I was 49. He’s amazing! I’m also carnivore adjacent these days.
I started playing basketball again at 41. Immediately got Achilles tendinitis. Started dropping collagen in my coffee every morning and cooking with bone broth. Still playing ball, lifting, super active and zero tendinitis. Collagen supplements work.
The placebo effect is profound. Research shows it doesn’t work.
I tried the same and I have tendinitis literally everywhere. That shit doesn't work.
Carnivore diet for four months. 71 yoa, lost 30lbs, off BP meds with BP average 120/75, all arthritis pain gone, mentally in a much better place with tons of energy. Non-diabetic reactive hypoglycemia gone, blood glucose is now normal with hA1C down to 5.3 from pre-diabetic. Fasting insulin is down to 7 from close to 15. I've never felt better to the point I am now doing five 20 second wind sprints 2-3 times per week plus using weights at home.
Very nice, good going ! Question ,how's your arteries doing,any blockage?
@@rainerrain9689 so far so good.
@@bobmitchel664
Good to hear,stay positive!
Where did you learn how to eat carnivore? Any good books out there?
@@joseph-the-seventhsome good watches on YT for carniv are dr ken berry, dr Anthony chaffee, dr elizabeth bright, Kelly hogan, kerry from homestead how channel, dr kiltz, steak and butter gal
2 meals a day made us healthier and saved us a lot of money! Love these interviews!!!!
I eat a healthy breakfast and healthy early lunch then NO food until the next morning breakfast.... and I do not get hungry... Basically keto diet and intermittent fasting and it has really worked for me. I do not worry about "breaking" the rules when I am in social situations....
Eat 2 meals/day ...only animal products (luckily can get raw dairy) ...find without the useless add ons/ extras my expenses are very reasonable...
First book I read in my health journey 14 years ago was Primal Blueprint. That helped me a lot. Now I’m 51 and still thriving, especially compared to all my buddies with beer guts. 😂
Mark, you got me started many, many years ago - about 15 years I think - can’t thank you enough. You have so much common sense. Thanks for all you’ve done and shared and thanks to Thomas for this interview. Excellent.
That was an excellent interview with Mark. Lots of logical wisdom on health and nutrition particularly for those over 60.
Agree 💯regarding the use of collagen in terms of healing injuries. I had a knee issue that many would have said needed surgery but I was able to see it get better with the use of collagen peptides (and prayer)
I'm 65 and what works best for me is no more than 2 meals a day, no eating at night. My first meal is higher fat and protein to curb cravings during the day. But my later meal may have some carbs (they make me tired so I wait until I'm not as active). I do biking, walking, swimming (500 meters per day). Will be adding weight training again soon (summer camping threw me off). On this very doable routine I've been able to maintain a steady weight of plus/minus 140 lbs (at 5'11"). My energy is good and I don't look my age.
I'm in my 50s and find that two meals, even well-planned, won't give me adequate nutrients, so now I have gone 3 meals a day and problem gone in terms of enough daily vitamins, minerals, protein, etc.
At 56 I prefer 2 meals a day as well. If I need anything else, I’ll eat a handful of nuts or an apple.
I had to switch up my carbs. Adding in a few with my carnivore diet aka ketovore… morning carbs. My curse is evening munching and if my dinner meal is zero carbs… no issues. Keeping busy during the day isn’t my issues hence no cravings
Me too at 67 just 2 meals and plenty of protein occasional longer fast..weight train and row, walk plus HIIT carbs occasionally but not a lot
Mark was such an influence on my health... he started me on the path to Paleo so many moons ago, made a huge difference on my health... That was a great interview! Thanks
Then I think about George Burns who died at 100 years old. His recipe for long life was be around positive people, don't stress or worry. He walked everywhere and had a very positive mind set. Oh yes, always loved his cigars right up to his death. But he enjoyed his life. I think that is key, enjoy, relax and live one day at a time.
Totally agree…stress, lots of family time…you can be on any diet and if you are miserable in your life, no diet. Is going to work.
Okay, got it, cigars.
He sure did enjoy them. @@hokeywolf3416
I agree, but easier said than done
@@hokeywolf3416Yes, I'm 83 and have smoked one a day since I'm 12. Look up Richard Overton, the oldest man in America who smokes 6-12 cigars a day since WW2.
Another great video! Mark Sisson ... get your hip replaced and have your mobility back to 100%. The very best thing I've done for myself, now 74yo, had both replaced almost ten years ago. LIFE CHANGING!
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The body self heals where as mechanical joints need replacing when they wear out. The problem you will face in 5 to 10 years is that the system may not be able to replace them, 2nd replacements are no where near as good as the 1st or it will be horribly expensive. Not everyone wants to abdicate their health to a broken and expensive system just because it's perceived as 'easier' than putting in th work to heal ourself.
@@sportysbusiness Aren't you just the uplifting type. I've taken great care of myself for a lifetime. Don't preach to me.
Balderdash. I was bone on bone and contemplating unaliving myself because of the pain!@@sportysbusiness
@@Oilfieldscout I was the same, so I understand. Fast forward 12 months and I'm back to walking pain free. The body heals, you have to find out why you were bone on bone to begin with, as joints are designed to last a lifetime. I had so many people telling me to get a mechanical joint, yet that wouldn't have changed the underlying issues, and would have lead to a second mechanical hip and eventually my knees. I haven't met a single person who didn't need at least 1 more joint replacing within 5 years of the first. Now you've had the first, please make sure you never need a second. Good luck.
i been doing carnivore diet for 5 years now, best thing i ever did, hard to sell supplements to people on keto/carnivore diet , i assume this is why fitness influencers are jumping ship from keto/carnivore
because it is a very unhealthy way to eat.....i have news for you..eating just meat is making you ill...
what about the cholesterol? Anyone ever talk about that?
@@claudeknowltonactor Dr. Berry
@@claudeknowltonactor There are many who are. No scientific evidence that cholesterol causes any disease. Actually, many studies show the opposite. That higher cholesterol in later life are protective for many disease. Another plug for eating more fatty meat.
Great info Thomas. Love learning from Sisson as he learns and grows.
I really appreciate the direction of your channel, Thomas. Love that you are curious with an open mind. Keep up the great work!
Hi Mark,
Don’t fear hip replacement surgery. I endured unbearable pain for 2 years and became almost totally inactive. Had robotic surgery in NYU Langone and walking the next morning with minimal discomfort. I was back to work after 3 weeks, and by 5 weeks I was on stationary bike, swimming and taking 1 mile walks. I now have full range of motion too.
Mark is a breath of fresh air listening to him speak about his lifestyle of balance and fun. I heard him on another podcast talk about his interest in ultimate frisbee and he seems to be most interested in finding joy in his lifestyle which is admirable.
When I was in my 20s, I forced myself to drink. I stopped doing that, because it made me get up to pee 4-5x per night. Now I only drink when I am thirsty. I stopped forcing myself to eat breakfast, and only eat when I am hungry. These changes have liberated me in all kinds of ways. When I ate 3 meals a day, I got hangry. Intermediate fasting/eating when I am hungry has gotten rid of those hangry episodes.
Did you have weight loss associated with these changes?
@@kellrockets101 No, my metabolism makes it so that I only gain weight when I exercise. If I don't exercise, I get skinny. Only time that I don't exercise is when I injure myself or my arthritis acts up.
This man is a breath of fresh air on the fitness scene because he is not overdoing anything. I especially love his position on hydration and not overthinking stuff.
I absolutely agree…. Especially around the hydration issue….
Carnivore adjacent. Exactly what I am. Mark is the OG. I read his book primal blueprint 7 years ago. Still has an impact on me to this today. Mark’s not afraid to change his mind on things. Rare breed. Mark for president.
Best two words I’ve heard to describe a lifestyle that is executable for most anyone.
Can you explain what Carnivore Adjacent means?
@@ReneAensland that you eat carnivore most of the time but also occasionally eat vegetables, nuts, fruits, and even grains (for me that is only white rice and very rarely potatoes). But that these foods comprise only a small component of your diet. Around 20 percent or less.
@mattgoodman3328 Thank you. I am genuinely curious since I went from Keto, to Carnivore and I want to keep changing and adapting.
Your comment is exactly the reason why nobody should have power over others. People make mistakes, surely. People can and should change their mind, as they realize there is a better way, fine. However you should only live your mistakes, not ones somebody forced you into. Nobody for president. Nobody has the capacity to run the lives of others.
Great interview. I appreciate Mark Sisson’s decision to hold off on the hip replacement surgery, although I’m sure there are times when he just wants relief. Working on his nutrition will definitely help in the event that he changes his mind in the future. Sometimes people think that because modern medicine has become advanced that, they can rely on a surgeon to fix the problem. It doesn’t always work out that way. My father suffered from four different types of cancers over a period of 20 years. He would have a surgery, get chemo and radiation, then go into remission. Then the next cancer would emerge, and he would go through the same cycle. Eventually, he thought he was indestructible. He suffered from a particular type of arthritis most of his life that was genetic for him. So at age 69 he wanted a hip replacement. He found a doctor that would do it. 20 years of cancers, and he passed away from that hip replacement surgery. He was also diabetic. They could not filter his blood enough to keep him from becoming septic. Doctors will collect insurance as long as insurance allows them to. If only he would have changed his diet and nutrition during those 20 years, but he was so dependent on doctors and surgeons coming to his rescue. In my family I have relatives that live to their late 90s. Nutrition is important.
I am sorry for your loss, but this story is inspiring while sad on a personal note for you. I am a doctor myself and sadly, people around me turn a deaf ear when I make this point to them. I am in a state of despair and have almost given up with them.
Sorry about your dad😢
But this story hardly relates to Mark's hip replacement need. His diet is not gonna fix the fact that he's bone on bone. That means there is no cartilage there to cushion the joint. Cartilege is not gonna magically appear from Mark's overdosing on collagen. He's taking 30g a day? (I guess he believes in 'more is better'...even when it isn't.)
Thomas did point this out to Mark - there IS no cartilage to build on or improve - its not gonna magically appear.
I thought the exact opposite of you re the hip replacement - that he shouldn't wait - he's not getting any younger.
There's no cartilage there.
And here's the thing - with no cushioning in that socket whatsoever - the socket will wear away. No socket - no option for a hip replacement.
I do know of someone who waited too long - put it off- put it off... then tried to go for it, and her socket was worn away, so surgery was no longer an option. That's an extreme case, but it can happen.
IMO Mark should go for the hip replacement now. His need is inevitable. He shouldn't wait till he's even another year older.
Thomas did try to tell him, but I think he just brushed it off. Surgery at an older age can be scary - maybe that's a part of why he seems to want to keep
putting it off.
I always appreciate these interviews with Mark, his advice is great because he's the proof of a healthy lifestyle.
Ummm, no he's not
JMO
I started taking collagen/gelatin at age 45, after 8 years of tendinitis and joint pain. I am 51 now and feel like I did in my 30s before I injured myself. I am back to doing calisthenics and gained 15 pounds of muscle from exercise. Before collagen, I felt like I was 85 and had a hard time getting out of a chair, low back pain especially. I also added MSM, ascorbic acid and Mg citrate. This is my morning cocktail, after my morning workout.
so probably the msm and vitamin c is the main reason for your improvements. don´t forget the thiamine. TTFD it should be.
@@jonastjernberg I would be inclined to agree with that, except that my cousin was having problems with his shoulder to the point that he could not play frisbee golf anymore. He only supplemented collagen and restored the function of his shoulder. For this reason, I continue the gelatin even though it is the most expensive ingredient of my regimen. Personally, it only makes sense since contemporary diet favors meat and not so much skin and hooves and such.
A gelatin dessert made with grass fed beef gelatin and fruity herbal tea. No sweetener required. 11 grams protein in 1 tablespoon dissolved in. 75 cups tea. Jells beautifully and tastes great.
Gelatin interestingly is not a complete protein; check it out
Mad respect for Mark. First of all, if I can make it to 70 and be there for my family I will be a happy man, but to make it there in the kind of shape he is in, with the insights that he has is very impressive. Love the content lately.
Just excellent information, guys, thank you so much! I’m 60, and keen to make adjustments so I eat and workout optimally, but without the intensity I might have once had (ie - my motivation is mainly about what’s practically achievable at my age - while still being at my best). In that sense this video is incredibly helpful 🙏
I’m 61 , trained all my adult life , but have found it tough the last few years ,
But have a new lease of life with taking some peptides and moderate amount of ( prescribed ) testosterone
Feel 15 years younger in the gym , stronger , muscle pump is back
I'm 72 and eat and think much like Mark, thanks for confirming I am doing some things right. I got a dog that forces me to walk twice a day, briskly for and hour early morning and an hour in the afternoon. This has really changed my life especially my leg muscles. I even do some sprinting which not that long ago I never thought I would be able to do again. I stay mostly Keto but eat healthy starches like Kabocha and sweet potato, natto. I do not each much greens due to the pesticides they bring although in summer I enjoy a salad daily of avocado, tomato, cucumber and tofu. I feel great!
The image quality of this podcast is amazing such detail 👌, I am 63yr & what Mark says about getting tight I can agree ,I always feel like I need to do more stretching 🙂
Woohoo! Great interview! Nice to see a guest who's older than I am and can speak to the things those of us 65 and older experience.
I am late 40s. Primarily workout with my home kettlebells, dip station, and pull up bar. I agree about not needing as many calories. I was an Army Officer and retired last year, The high tempo while active duty has changed. I would get up at 0400 and go until late and work also was intense and I needed fuel. I still work, but much less intense. I just don't need that much food anymore.
I really appreciated your comment! I am 62 and I eat fewer meals and consume smaller portions, My wife is worried about me (you need to eat more...) and I simply tell her that I feel better than ever I just do not need to eat as much as I once did.... Thank you for your service to our country!
Very interesting interview. You lose your thirst mechanism as you get older, as you lose muscle protein synthesis - ability to uptake protein. Sisson should know this. There are physiological changes as we get older. However, I have learned so much from these two. Sisson has done a great job bringing real health to the forefront.
* lose * ;)
lose not loose
And lose a lot more such is life.
Mark is the best! Thanks for this interview. Keep up the good work, Thom!
Loved this talk. Im 54 now 5'7" female and been doing crossfit for over 15 years. As my body changes with perimenopause, i know that my nutrition needs are changing too, especially with regards to hormonal changes. Im now understanding somewhat reluctantly, that i cant and more importantly go like i used to because metabolically it's now counter productive to recovery and adrenal fatigue and cortisol outcomes. Im eating up the knowledge from these talks and hoping tjat some of it applies to my current status.
Need to pay attention to Dr Mary Claire Haver a ob gyn on menopause
@walterski8377 IL check into it. Btw, your name really floored me, I worked with a guy by the same moniker. Anyway, thx for the info..Ski.
I also recommend Dr. Mindy Pelz for her insight into fasting for women at the different stages of life and at different times in the monthly cycle for those who still have a cycle. I think Dr. Marie Claire Haver is great but disagree with her 16 hours daily fasting. The body adapts. You need to occasionally vary your fasting time.
@@73cidalia thank you as well.
I'm 56, meno at 52, and twice a week CrossFit with some light running or mountain biking and an hour of power (vinyasa) yoga once a week seems to be a good balance. I've had to face the reality of cortisol and adrenals too, had to stop everything for awhile. Found myself (an athletic CrossFitter and runner) actually sobbing with fatigue during a yoga class during peri! Realized we need to eat enough and be gentle with ourselves at this stage in life.
This is what most people mix up and confused; Exercise for Health vs Exercise for Performance.
You shouldn't be exercising for performance unless you're a professional athlete. You're causing more harm and damage to your body than you need to. Dealifting 2-3x your body weight or running for 20km... for what???
Exercise with the effective dose.
Excessive and too much are never good and is redundant.
I agree. For years I chased this and I think I beat myself into the ground.
@@BrandonLynch-lj8kxdepends on age and sex...65 yr old woman full body strength 2x a week, cardio 2-3 x per week.then add some pilates or yoga always walking
But people don’t understand this. Woman for example don’t understand, that it is NOT Healthy to be thin with muscles and low bodyfat. Yeah, you’re looking fit…but your not healthy. Look at all these fitness people, who have abs and eat clean. I bet in 20 to 30 years, when this people get older they begin to dying much more earlier as the average guy.
You need a little bit weight lifting and a little bit endurance, but look at the people, they don’t listen to their body’s. Most of them need Booster for training, because their body is tired. They don’t listen, because they young and they believe they are the kings of the world.
Fitnessindustry is full of people with bodydysmorphia and eating disorder. They think they smarter than their body’s. BUT in these days, we don’t understand enough how our body work. We believe it, we know a little bit … but it’s not enough. On one hand, we pray eat clean, eat pure stuff at the other hand, we eat all this Fitness industry stuff. In 20-30 years we will laugh at what we do today. period.
The harsh reality is that many amateurs just don’t care about health. They want to lift a bunch of weight or run ungodly distances because it makes them feel good about themselves. Or it’s something to work towards. They might tell you they think it’s healthy or they might not. But we can’t assume that everyone is trying to maximize longevity.
I really like this comment. The "for what" question. My brother always says "I'm not an athlete and I'm not a body builder, take it easy but get it done."
Excellent talk you guys, really enjoyed it. Thanks Thomas, and thank you Mark. You both are inspiring to listen to.
At 82 I have been a Naturopathic doctor for 50 years. I was educated in the Natural Hygiene movement: Dr Shelton, Isaac Jennings, John Tilden etc. The mixed diet ( basically Mediterranean) has worked well for me, with emphasis on vegetables and fruits, but some meat and fish, but not overdoing the protein. Dr Longo says seniors crave more protein, maybe because of less efficient assimilation.
I've never been an athlete but for the last 5 years or so I have been following a modified Mike Mentzer lifting routine, which emphasizes long recovery time. The thing is to get lean. I'm happy to see some actual gains.
I really think it's important to modulate animal protein intake. Those big molecules can be a burden to the kidneys.
I enjoyed the interview
Hey, another veteran of Natural Hygiene here, via Fit for Life and their magazine for many years. I eat the complete opposite nowadays, but don't really regret my time eating that way.
My favourite drink and i have a large glass first thing in the morning is 49% sparkling water 49% kombucha (sugar free) a dash of ACV and a pinch of sea salt or red Himalayan rock salt. Very refreshing
Tom, really enjoy your last couple videos with the interviews. I know you the answers to your questions but like how you let the guest provide their insights. Appreciate the content and format. Have learned a lot from your videos. Keep up the great work.
Excellent as always Thomas. Great interview! Mark, you look amazing at 70!
I had sten cell injections in my hips back in 2016 (from my fat and bone marrow). Took pain away for 4+ years. I could have tried them again rather than get replacements but it is just so expensive and I had the insurance to do replacements for almost nothing - so I went that route almost 2 years ago. Unfortunately money makes it prohibitive for most people. Replacements were a long recovery but took away the pain.
Mike Mentzer knew what he was talking about..I'm 51 and growing like crazy while lifting with my 19 year old son.....please listen to Mike Mentzer and his technique..You won't regret it. ❤
May I ask best sources for his optimal training methods? I believe in essence it is based on long recovery periods working a muscle group to exhausting once per week.
Awesome to hear Mark is still playing ultimate frisbee! 🙌🏼❤️
Way to go Thomas! Excellent conversation. Always appreciate Mark Sisson…even more so now that I’m older also. 😀
“I’m done with Paleo”! What’s with the misleading title. Thomas your a knowledgeable guy and a great host. I’m 51 and live my health and fitness and sure I enjoyed this video, but I’m refusing to watch unsubstantiated click bait anymore. Please use relevant titles!
And Thomas why do you have to be greedy and PIMP so many products?
I’m 78, vegetarian over 50 years…. dropped 20 kgs prior to mcl cancer diagnosis 15 months ago, reluctantly accepted 3 rounds of chemo but I’m sure keto assisted in my keeping cancer at bay… Thx Mark, you are my best educator for sure…. Today’s video showed me the importance of keeping protein up a little, consider collagen supplements and going back to NOT measuring hydration…. You offer the best balanced information…. thank you… My negative Oncologist firmly believes my cancer will return, however at 78 it’s quality of life not quantity…. Btw I have my own outdoor kitchen and have become a fine dining keto chef, that even my wife raves about…. although I might have to add a few more eggs and tofu over the course of a week.
Even some of the people worried about a high protein diet causing cancer think that the reverse is true once you are over 65. Plus there’s a potential cost of not eating enough protein, as you suggest. As a young guy, a combination of low protein and low testosterone gave me very low muscle mass and even osteoporosis in my mid-30’s (broke my leg falling at home). The need for protein is even higher when you are sedentary and/or eating less (sarcopenia progresses during these periods and a high protein diet is proven to mitigate the effect). So if chemo kills your appetite and ability to exercise, protein drinks are a very smart idea.
Just like you, I’ve learned not to be dogmatic about this stuff. The best diet is very individual and can depend on the stage of life. Now that my body has recovered bone density and muscle mass, I have health concerns that are more typical of a guy my age. So I’m looking at reducing protein a bit and replacing more of it with plant sources.
@@FreedomFox1 Between the 2 of you, there's too much non-sense and dogma to dispell.
keeping protein up a little, doesn't mean 160g. That's 3 TIMES what a large man needs. I get 43g. 10 years on. That's what the longest lived people get. I'm 55. Never broke a bone.
@@GaryHighFruit Like I said, the best diet is very personal… I would never pretend to know what’s best for you. If it works for you, then I’d say keep doing it!
@@FreedomFox1 I think the best diet for an individual is not far from everyone else's. Every squirrel eats the same. Even race horses are fed nearly the same for competition. Humans also have a specific diet we're meant for. High-carb & 45-70g protein has been shown to give longer life. Low-carb and clownavore have not.
@@GaryHighFruit Protein consumption is associated with reduced all-cause mortality… I think I’ll be fine.
Awesome educational material! THANK YOU very much Thomas and Mark.
I always enjoy your interviews with Mark Sisson! He always has interesting insights on the health community and makes great products under his Primal Kitchen brand that I buy. I agree that fats should not be seen as bad. Low fat, high sugar, and high starch diet have only increased obesity since the 70s.
Uh, he sold Primal Kitchen to a big food company quite a while ago. Keep an eye on those ingredients! I like and buy the Primal stuff, too. Had the steak sauce tonight, in fact!
Mark Sisson has made several changes to his diet as he has aged to focus on longevity and maintaining muscle mass:
Reduced Caloric Intake: As he has cut back on intense exercise, Sisson has reduced his calorie intake, recognizing that he no longer needs as many calories due to his lower physical activity levels.
Protein-Centric Diet: Sisson now prioritizes protein intake, aiming for a minimum of 120 grams per day. He focuses on ensuring that his meals are centered around protein, which helps maintain muscle mass as he ages.
Cutting Back on Greens: Sisson has reduced the amount of greens in his diet and describes himself as "carnivore-adjacent," although he still occasionally consumes some berries and other non-meat foods.
Flexible Eating Schedule: He no longer follows a strict eating schedule and often eats only two meals a day. His protein intake is spread over several days, and he is confident that his body efficiently utilizes amino acids even with varying daily intake.
Mindful Fat Intake: While Sisson was one of the early proponents of not fearing fat, he now does not seek out extra fats in his diet. He focuses more on protein and does not consciously add fats to his meals unless it enhances the flavor.
Collagen Supplementation: Recognizing the importance of collagen for connective tissue health, Sisson supplements with collagen, which he believes should be considered a fourth macronutrient, especially for athletes.
Adjusting Workout Intensity: Sisson has modified his exercise routine to focus on maintaining muscle mass rather than endurance, avoiding overly intense, long-duration workouts that could lead to muscle loss.
These adjustments reflect Sisson's focus on a diet that supports muscle maintenance, efficient protein use, and overall longevity as he ages.
Just curious did you use AI to recap this?😊
Thank you I'm 63 and working out and eating has changed. Minimum amount of running and working out with wts.alot has changed throughout my life.
Sisson is awesome watched him on other interviews. thank you Thomas. watch you each day
fun vid too watch
I am 60 been carnivore 4 years and as 5'11 male I did get back to my weight of my 20s and 30s at 178 lbs and maintained that with ease for last 3 years and just feel insane
I am working out much harder now and for me still recovering just fine but not quite as old as Mark :) will be fun to look back when I am 70 and he looks great for 70 and sure he is doing what he finds optimum for him which is what each of us need to do :)
and do agree we need to change and adapt and not just for age but as we go through our getting in shape journey and find out optimum
I can say when I was younger which I had known what I know now but you can get away with a LOT more when under say 40
for me I am carnivore no desire to add things back in as the times I have tested things I notice that negative big time but that is me :)
also OMAD I can't eat 2MAD just does not work as well for me :)
but also totally OK with folks doing some fruit and veggies or nuts if they are happy that is what counts IMHO this is all individual for each of us :) and what makes us happy :)
As an endurance athlete myself, I have found my recovery and adaptation to training is much better when my protein intake is higher. I aim for 110-120g a day
Maybe that's because the extra protein turns into glucose. endurance exercise uses almost no protein.
I’m referring to recovery only with muscle rebuilding after breakdown from workouts
@@trainwellracewell"muscle rebuilding after breakdown from workouts"
How can you measure that?
I've lifted plenty of weights in my life. I used to get sore in my teens & 20's. That stopped when I went high-fruit.
I love Mark and I was one of the first Primal Blueprint Health Coaches certified in the world. With that being said, as I went further and further into the “Primal” lifestyle it just wasn’t matching up to what I needed to fuel my body on a day to day basis. Having a child will keep you on your feet and moving and low carb was actually causing me to gain weight regardless of energy balance. As I’ve gotten older and my focus has turned more towards longevity, I’ve been research the blue zones and their diet. Paleo is a great framework but I don’t live 2 million years ago I’m living in 2023, the question then becomes what do the longest healthiest living people on the world do today? The answer for me is what I’ve coined a “Paleoterrian” diet where I combine the best of Paleo and Mediterranean. You’ve got to find what works for you and in the context of your life. Kudos to Mark for always being willing to adapt and take a different approach when warranted.
He’s frickin 70?!?!! He looks amazing!!!!
I'm 62, 5'6" 142lb. Rock climbing 2- 3 days a week and walking 1-2 hours a day are my exercise. Carbs on the low side of 50 -75 grams a day. Eating 100 grams of protein a day without a supplement like whey protein, which screws with my gut, feels absurd. I'm absolutely stuffing myself beyond satiation trying to get that much protein. Thoughts?
I got sick on Paleo because I was eating more veggies than a noodle, pasta, bread based vegetarian. Sally Norton saved my life with her knowledge regarding toxic ( oxalate) plant based diet.
At 46 (as of today🎉) i find that more moderate workouts, walking, more protein, and frequent smaller meals keep me super fit and energetic. 5'11", 125 lbs.
Happy birthday 🎉
But you just don't need the high-protein. A lot of the excess turned to carbs. Your body is probably just benefitting from the carbs. And the less conversion the better... potatoes are better, and fruit even better because it's raw, easier to digest, and higher in nutrients.
Thanks guys! Superb conversation and information!!!
I think Mark Sisson and Bryan Johnson should have a conversation together because Mark uses intuition to be healthy and Bryan wants to use algorithms to be healthy so they have two different ways of thinking with their approach to longevity.
September 1st, 2024 will "mark" eleven years that I've been following Mark's principles. I consider learning how to eat to be one of my super powers and am eternally grateful that I came across his advice.
12 years of extreme low carb dieting ruined my metabolism. 2 years ago, I could barely move in the late afternoon. I started eating fruits again (one of the gifts of Brazil, where I live), tubers and roots and my metabolism returned to normal. I once again had the energy to play with my children and exercise. I'm 52 years old.
Mark got me into paleo/keto. I'm forever grateful for that.
Primal Blueprint was my first foray into the world of healthy eating 15 years ago. Thankfully I found it young, turning 40 next month and always stayed lean. Thank you Mark.
For a collagen supplement, do you @thomas have a recommendation? … or what should I look for in the ingredients
It says collagen. You open the package and put some on a cheap $7 digital kitchen scale how much you want.
Plant based and loving it. I can get longer work outs at the gym
Excellent discussion - I always enjoy listening to varying perspectives on health into old age (I'm 71). I noted a comment about a product having FDA approval - and I would never use that as a benchmark! FDA is a completely bought-and-paid-for agency, and will approve or ban products based on the wishes of their corporate sponsors - and nothing else! In some cases, no amount of petitions or testimonials will sway their decision, even if it's from experienced, licensed practitioners, so I disregard anything they have to say!
Mark Sisson has been my hero since 2009. Keep moving!😁❤
As a 77 year old, this video is a big help...he has echoed my own thoughts....Know I need more collagen!
I have been Keto for a couple years now and like Mark I concentrate on protein and not the fat. I have never consumed 200g fat in a day and have rarely ever had more than 150g of fat.
Hats off to this guy... I' wish I am fit like him when ı'm his age!
So glad of this dialogue.. thanks!
So should I become a fruitarian and supplement with protein powder? Will the fruit cause non-stop spikes in blood sugar? And how would I get enough fiber? One of my concerns with keto and carnivore is Omega-6-ing myself to death with inflammation or going broke buying 100% pastured livestock or wild seafood. Thanks.
I'm the person to answer your questions, not an anti-carb guru who takes steroids.
"should I become a fruitarian and supplement with protein powder?"
I recommend high fruit and a mix of other foods as I describe in the "Carboraider diet".
"Will the fruit cause non-stop spikes in blood sugar?"
Not high spikes. But spikes aren't the problem. The problem is when it STAYS too high. That's caused by fat.
27:14 I rarely feel thirsty and I'm prone to dehydration, fasciculations (muscle twitching) and muscle cramps -- a bad combination! -- therefore I have to force myself to drink. My hypothesis is the thirst mechanism is a very old brain function and can become overwhelmed by the giant forebrain we lug around.
Also another key to longevity is eating 3 months, then fast for 21 days, then repeat, this absolutely increases longevity
Fast for 21 days 🙄🙄🙄.
I’ve been keto for over 27 years. I’ve helped thousands of clients lose weight and do not preached add fat for a ketogenic diet. The steak has plenty of fat 💪💪💪💪
I'm 62 and I agree, save the flavor of olive oil to drizzle on your veggies. I used to fry all my lean meat in oil until I figured that out. My breakfast these days is ground beef with berries, no fat needed.
Brilliant interview!!! Common sense explanations... we tend to over think everything these days.
I was already going to start having bone broth to try to heal my tendons from Lyme disease, this encouraged me even more.
All I hear is if I don't eat enough fat when doing carnivore or keto style diets the body breaks down protein into sugar for energy which is supposed to be really bad for your adrenal system. So confusing.
Alot of people have totally backed out of the high fat the last year or 2
They have replaced High fat with high fiber, more protein, more complex carbs
@@debiwillis9045 A lot of people? I think you mean influencers need views.
I don't take advice from Marketing Pros like Sisson, Saladino and Dave Asprey. They just switch back & forth between whatever they need to sell/ re-sell and revamp their product lines, books and gain attention for their own promotion. ALL Of these guys were PRO Saturated Fat like CRAZY about 5 years ago. Now it's all "I don't seek out Sat Fat" and "fruits are healthy".
Hes always been a fan of fruit and fine w saturated fats, lean proteins too. He hasn’t really changed that much.
@@mwilcox4791 missing the point... Why care what he says or thinks if its just revamped old spiel. Title says "radically changing his diet to Live Longer", capital L's on those. He talked nothing for 2 hours just to funnel in new customers for product lines. There are far better sources of nutritional information.
Good point
Also notice he has. Backed off all that insane workouts. He knows its bad for longevity
thanks for confirming my suspicions based on what looked like flip-flopping but haven't followed as long as you seemed to have, genuine question - what are some better channels out there that aren't either as extreme or restrictive but rather more wholesome?
Love these great guys! My age is in between, so I understand them both very well😉. Is Mark dry fasting for at least 72 hrs aswell? Grts from The Netherlands🍀
Loved the interview. Huge fan of Marks.
I find the whole reinventing what people should eat, interesting because we lost a lot of what we used to know. But have also gained new insights.
“If you look at a marathoner, even if they might lift weights, they weigh 40 pounds less than what they would weigh if they stopped running, ate more protein and lifted weights”. Exactly! That’s why they do what they do. They don’t want 40 pounds of extra weight.
He’s great to listen to and makes me think about priorities and values in life.
Approaching 40 this is becoming more and more important.
Two meals a day are not enough for me to keep muscle mass though 😂
There is a view that such high protein intake stimulates MTOR via its effect on UGF1. This promotes cell division and stem cell exhaustion which you do not want if your mitochondria are impaired as it promotes the growth of cancer cells and is linked to accelerated aging. In any case talking about protein intake rather than quality and amino acid supply is wrong with leucine needed for muscle repair and glutamic acid to be minimized as it promotes the growth of cancer cells.
Love this kind of interviews, thank you for this retro, really valuable information 💕
I really enjoy hearing from Mark, his wisdom is refreshing! Love it
Most people don't seem to have a problem with fat intake. If you're reasonably active, you'll burn it off fairly easily, as long as you're very low-carb. But for some people, they'll gain weight with too much dietary fat.
I need pork in my diet. It just tastes way better than any other meat. So even though it is lower on the nutrient density scale, I add it into stews or soups or even ground meat balls either with beef, bison, or lamb. Neck bones are a less expensive cut for pork. For beef try oxtails on sale...the best tasting beef dor my palate. You have to cook it for a few hours or instapot for 45-60 mins...but so delicious. And if you allow spices, there are many good tasty ways of preparing them.
Totally agree with the obsession of water consumption. I damaged my bladder, permanently, by drinking too much water. My Urologist has told me to drink to thirst.
LOL wut??? Please explain exactly how you damaged your bladder due to water consumption. You must be a marvel of the medical community.
@@JB-hq9yj LOL…first of all you’re rude! Second of all, I damaged the detrusor muscle that contracts when you empty your bladder due to drinking too much on a long country drive. So now my bladder tells me it’s full when it’s actually empty. It’s called “overactive bladder” and it’s a common illness. So I have to sedate myself every evening or I can’t fall asleep and have had to retire early. I have also had to have a sacral nerve implant which tries to re-route the impulse from my bladder to my brain to try to settle and calm my bladder. Not a medical marvel…you just don’t know of every illness in the whole world. That’s surprising when you’re a brainiac 😊🙄
@@CAEO416yes overactive bladder is a common symptom associated with aging. You are the only case I have ever heard of brought on seemingly by one acute episode of supposedly drinking too much water. It’s generally a chronic situation brought on over time. I can’t tell if you are to be taken seriously or not but either way that does not sound fun and hope you find some relief.
@@JB-hq9yjI did develop it after one drinking episode. I was stuck in a car and kept on drinking (foolishly) even though my bladder was full. (I had no idea this could happen) By the time I emptied my bladder there would have been over 1.5 litres of pee that I voided. Urodynamics showed that my bladder was extremely active even when empty after this episode. I was thirty! That’s not old. It has gotten worse since I’ve aged and a lot of women do experience it for the first time in menopause, but not to the extent that I have. They may get up a few times a night to go to the toilet. My bladder is very active, every second of my life. That is not a common symptom of overactive bladder. I have even tried Botox injected into my bladder which is now the gold standard treatment but unfortunately it didn’t help. It is horrible, thank you. Life goes on….
@@CAEO416So basically you’re a bed wetter. Depends to the rescue
It goes without saying that we have to change our diet as we age. I found out over the years what works best for me. I'm a 69-yr-old female and now eat higher protein and vegetables, lower carbs, healthy fats. Very importantly, I also do Intermittent Fasting, which allows the Migratory Motor Complex (MMC) to do its thing. It's critically important for good gut health and doing IF also helps to maintain my weight. Yes, collagen is important not only for hair, nails, and skin (and I've noticed the benefits!), but bones and the immune system. My activity is moderate: Pilates, walking, some light lifting. Btw, macadmia nuts are *very* high in calories, so not the greatest for us older individuals. Best for the very active. ;)
OK I do make bone broth from Grassfed beef bones. I put organic vegetable stock in instead of water.. any suggestions on how to improve that nutritional value?? Also, what type of collagen do you suggest? I am particularly interested in collagen that may help my damaged retina in my left eye. a central occlusion seven years ago. I am not blind, but I don’t drive anymore. Any thoughts on how to improve that with some type of collagen, or any other way? Thank you. I think you an amazing researcher. You just pull everything together and unless anybody else up there.
Found Mark so informative very interesting
Carnivore is not the only way. I eat carbs from oatmeal, fruit and sweet potatoes. Seems to work for me.
Remember also, he is taking hormones. Not to suggest that is bad but it is a very big influence on his muscle development.