Nice! Last week, I put together a BBSHD bike with the intent of using it as a do it all. It's very impressive. I got a Lekkie 40T HD ring, with motor cover, which offers a great offset while being a small chainring. I can still use 10 speeds out of 11, so essentially my cassette went from 11-51T to 11-48T. I'm using an Eggrider v2 with it, and a parallel battery module, which is super useful because I can charge both batteries at once, and I can choose to bring only one or both batteries with me depending on what I have to do that day. I get excellent range out of them, too (52V/20Ah + 52V/15Ah, so it's a lot of battery). With pedal assist and limited to 20 mph (the street legal limit in most of Canada), I get at LEAST 100 miles of range, and that's with me occasionally cheating and removing the limit to go faster when I'm stuck in car traffic. I haven't tried using throttle only yet, but I think that next time I go to work, I will, because after a 23 miles trip I still had about 80% battery left. I really love my BBSHD.
@@wandererstraining nice, that sounds like a excelent setup. What kind of batterys do you use? With throttle only i would suggest to not use the 2 smallest gears. They will wotk at the beginning, but not for long. I use throttle only most of the time, and getting away using the 3th gear, but even that gets eaten from the chain over time ;-) I wish you a lot of good rides with it :-)
@@Dirt-E-Bikes Thanks! And yeah, makes sense. I use the smallest gear only pedaling downhill, at which point the motor doesn't contribute anymore anyway. 😊 On throttle, I heard that the BBSHD is more efficient at higher RPMs, so I'll probably use my middle gear or around it. For long distances, and due to regulations, I'll also stay in "Road Mode", which is capped at 32 km/h in Canada (in BC at least). I occasionally switch to off road to go a bit faster when it calls for it, but using throttle only, I think it would be better to abide by the law, because I can't even pretend like my legs are doing the work if I'm going too fast. 😂😂 And I got my batteries from Affordable E-Bikes in Canada. Myles has been really nice to deal with. The bigger battery is a hardshell triangle. The smaller one is a brick, which I mount to my top tube. Feels pretty balanced that way. They're both made of Samsung 50E, and I think that they're 14S arranged. It's been pretty fun to work on setting it all up, too. A bit stressful because I wanted to be done with the project (mostly, there's always going to be things to tweak and upgrade) before September, but fun because I got to design and 3D print a lot of hardware for it. Btw, I went to check your website, and I think that it looks great. I particularly would appreciate articles, I tend to bookmark the most useful and interesting ones for reference.
@@wandererstraining thanks mate, the website is still in progress and i would like to write more articles but barely find the time for ot right now. I have to check out these batterys, sound like good ones, the 50E is a high capacity cell right? Something with 3000 to 3500 mah per cell i guess. Thats a good joice imo if you go with a that high capacity like in your batterys, so they should be able to provide enough amps without heating to much. And yes, the BBSHD (like all DC brushless motors) likes to run fast for a good efficency. You can really feel this when you use throttle from a stop. When it speeds up, and gets to a certain amount of rpm, you can feel that it pushes much more. That is roughly where the efficency starts to get in the "good range". Sorry for my bad english, i hope you can understand what i mean. normaly i check everything i say/wirte twice, but its late at night and just wanted to replay because i really like that kind of interaction with someone that shares the same passion ;-)
@@Dirt-E-Bikes I see what you mean for the BBSHD's preferred RPM! And no worries, you're easy to understand, man. English isn't my first language either, but I don't think that you "sound" German in the way you write in English. For the batteries, they're 21700s, so they're fatter than 18650. Each cell is 5000 mah (minimum 4900, as per spec). The 50S cells have a different power curve, and they can maintain higher power for longer. Affordable E-Bikes also offer Molycell batteries in a lot of their packs, which allow for higher amperage and better operation in cold weather. But the 50E have really good capacity for the price, and I want range more than power for exploration purposes. Could be fun tho to make a build with a different controller some day and to run a BBSHD on 72V. But I don't have the budget for a 2nd bike, lol. I spent a lot on making that one really good because it's aiming to replace public transit and act like a small car for me. A car that can go explore off-road and that costs $0.20 to fill up. 😁 Rest up well!
Looking to convert my Trek Marlin 4 to an e-bike to get around my hilly college campus. Do you recommend getting the kit with the battery or buying a battery separately?
What type and brand of chain is best to cope with the torque of the BBSHD kit? And are quality heavy duty chains available for the Shimano and SRAM geartrains?
@@stevenbusk539 Hi Steven, for the chains, i go with the cheapest SRAM or Shimanos, whatever is cheapest at the moment. I do this since 10 years and never had a problem. "Quality E-Bike chains" are not worth it imo, they do the same as the cheap ones. You better go with a quality brand and take the cheapest model. But yes, there are a bunch of more expensive models you could use, they will work as long as they are compatible with your shifter and gears (10s,9s, or whatever your numbera of gears are).
Hi Frypanny, well, i think it can handle the weight of the components and yours, but the question is if the frame can handle the torque generated by the motor. The motor (-totque) will pull on the chain with 1500 watt, that is some serious power. Is it a hardtail bike? And is it a MTB? Maybe you can send me a link of the frame or a model-nr. so i can have a look for you ✌️
Its a good looking city-bike, but the BBSHD would be a bit overkill if you ask me. I would suggest getting a bbs02 instead. Its cheaper, and you can run it with a (also cheaper-) and smaller battery. With the bbs02 you will also be able to use the smaller gears without having problems from to much power. So the whole bike will be a bit better balanced. Only thing to check is if this bike uses a "BSA bottom bracked". I normaly only do MTB conversions, and i am not sure if a citybike like yours does maybe use a other standard than the BSA that is the normal MTB standard. So if you buy it new, ask the seller if it has a BSA bottom bracket.
Nice! Last week, I put together a BBSHD bike with the intent of using it as a do it all. It's very impressive. I got a Lekkie 40T HD ring, with motor cover, which offers a great offset while being a small chainring. I can still use 10 speeds out of 11, so essentially my cassette went from 11-51T to 11-48T. I'm using an Eggrider v2 with it, and a parallel battery module, which is super useful because I can charge both batteries at once, and I can choose to bring only one or both batteries with me depending on what I have to do that day. I get excellent range out of them, too (52V/20Ah + 52V/15Ah, so it's a lot of battery). With pedal assist and limited to 20 mph (the street legal limit in most of Canada), I get at LEAST 100 miles of range, and that's with me occasionally cheating and removing the limit to go faster when I'm stuck in car traffic. I haven't tried using throttle only yet, but I think that next time I go to work, I will, because after a 23 miles trip I still had about 80% battery left.
I really love my BBSHD.
@@wandererstraining nice, that sounds like a excelent setup. What kind of batterys do you use?
With throttle only i would suggest to not use the 2 smallest gears. They will wotk at the beginning, but not for long. I use throttle only most of the time, and getting away using the 3th gear, but even that gets eaten from the chain over time ;-)
I wish you a lot of good rides with it :-)
@@Dirt-E-Bikes Thanks! And yeah, makes sense. I use the smallest gear only pedaling downhill, at which point the motor doesn't contribute anymore anyway. 😊 On throttle, I heard that the BBSHD is more efficient at higher RPMs, so I'll probably use my middle gear or around it. For long distances, and due to regulations, I'll also stay in "Road Mode", which is capped at 32 km/h in Canada (in BC at least). I occasionally switch to off road to go a bit faster when it calls for it, but using throttle only, I think it would be better to abide by the law, because I can't even pretend like my legs are doing the work if I'm going too fast. 😂😂
And I got my batteries from Affordable E-Bikes in Canada. Myles has been really nice to deal with. The bigger battery is a hardshell triangle. The smaller one is a brick, which I mount to my top tube. Feels pretty balanced that way. They're both made of Samsung 50E, and I think that they're 14S arranged. It's been pretty fun to work on setting it all up, too. A bit stressful because I wanted to be done with the project (mostly, there's always going to be things to tweak and upgrade) before September, but fun because I got to design and 3D print a lot of hardware for it.
Btw, I went to check your website, and I think that it looks great. I particularly would appreciate articles, I tend to bookmark the most useful and interesting ones for reference.
@@wandererstraining thanks mate, the website is still in progress and i would like to write more articles but barely find the time for ot right now.
I have to check out these batterys, sound like good ones, the 50E is a high capacity cell right? Something with 3000 to 3500 mah per cell i guess. Thats a good joice imo if you go with a that high capacity like in your batterys, so they should be able to provide enough amps without heating to much.
And yes, the BBSHD (like all DC brushless motors) likes to run fast for a good efficency. You can really feel this when you use throttle from a stop. When it speeds up, and gets to a certain amount of rpm, you can feel that it pushes much more. That is roughly where the efficency starts to get in the "good range".
Sorry for my bad english, i hope you can understand what i mean. normaly i check everything i say/wirte twice, but its late at night and just wanted to replay because i really like that kind of interaction with someone that shares the same passion ;-)
@@Dirt-E-Bikes I see what you mean for the BBSHD's preferred RPM! And no worries, you're easy to understand, man. English isn't my first language either, but I don't think that you "sound" German in the way you write in English.
For the batteries, they're 21700s, so they're fatter than 18650. Each cell is 5000 mah (minimum 4900, as per spec). The 50S cells have a different power curve, and they can maintain higher power for longer. Affordable E-Bikes also offer Molycell batteries in a lot of their packs, which allow for higher amperage and better operation in cold weather. But the 50E have really good capacity for the price, and I want range more than power for exploration purposes. Could be fun tho to make a build with a different controller some day and to run a BBSHD on 72V. But I don't have the budget for a 2nd bike, lol. I spent a lot on making that one really good because it's aiming to replace public transit and act like a small car for me. A car that can go explore off-road and that costs $0.20 to fill up. 😁
Rest up well!
What a nice bike❤
Is it a 9 speed shifter, the x9..?
Hey Shakey, its a 10 speed, but the model is called x9 ✌️
Nice video, i run the CYC motor, its lighter and more powerfull, but yes, its a bit loudet than the BBSHD😅
That is a nice one too 👍
Looking to convert my Trek Marlin 4 to an e-bike to get around my hilly college campus. Do you recommend getting the kit with the battery or buying a battery separately?
Hi aidendroge, i would recommend to get it with a battery, but only if the battery is of good quality
What type and brand of chain is best to cope with the torque of the BBSHD kit? And are quality heavy duty chains available for the Shimano and SRAM geartrains?
@@stevenbusk539 Hi Steven, for the chains, i go with the cheapest SRAM or Shimanos, whatever is cheapest at the moment. I do this since 10 years and never had a problem. "Quality E-Bike chains" are not worth it imo, they do the same as the cheap ones. You better go with a quality brand and take the cheapest model. But yes, there are a bunch of more expensive models you could use, they will work as long as they are compatible with your shifter and gears (10s,9s, or whatever your numbera of gears are).
Nice vid
Thx bro 🙂
Nice Wheelie at 0:25 ;)
Best wheelie-foto we ever made ;-)
@@Dirt-E-Bikes ruclips.net/user/shortss1o40KPxx58?si=OtOd6lB1TWSlut3Q
Great ❤
Thx mate :-)
do you think a slim aluminium framw can handle 12kg (motor and battery) and a 60 kg person?
Hi Frypanny, well, i think it can handle the weight of the components and yours, but the question is if the frame can handle the torque generated by the motor. The motor (-totque) will pull on the chain with 1500 watt, that is some serious power. Is it a hardtail bike? And is it a MTB? Maybe you can send me a link of the frame or a model-nr. so i can have a look for you ✌️
@@Dirt-E-Bikes Yes, I have the bsp o-seven n3 from the Netherlands, thank you
bsp o-seven dames n3*
@@xfrypanny_2202 i will checkt that for you and let you know ✌️
Its a good looking city-bike, but the BBSHD would be a bit overkill if you ask me. I would suggest getting a bbs02 instead. Its cheaper, and you can run it with a (also cheaper-) and smaller battery.
With the bbs02 you will also be able to use the smaller gears without having problems from to much power. So the whole bike will be a bit better balanced. Only thing to check is if this bike uses a "BSA bottom bracked". I normaly only do MTB conversions, and i am not sure if a citybike like yours does maybe use a other standard than the BSA that is the normal MTB standard.
So if you buy it new, ask the seller if it has a BSA bottom bracket.
Noice 😲
Thx
What was the cost of the whole build?
about 2500$
BBS drizzy, BBS drizzy, hoohooohooooo...
Finally one that gets it 😁