Yeah, I tell you that. And you know Mario Kart: DS is the fifth installment of the Mario Kart series, after Mario Kart for SNES called Super Mario Kart-the first game of the Mario Kart series, and Mario Kart 64-the second installment of the Mario Kart series, and Mario Kart: Super Circuit-the third installment of Mario Kart series, before Mario Kart DS-the fifth installment for the Nintendo DS, Mario Kart Wii-the sixth installment for the Nintendo Wii, Mario Kart 7-the seventh installment for the Nintendo 3DS, Mario Kart 8 & Mario Kart 8 Deluxe-the eighth installments for the Nintendo Wii U and Nintendo Switch, and you know Mario Kart: Double Dash is the unlockable in Mario Kart 7’s 3DS sequel installment for the Nintendo 3DS called "Mario Kart: The Top 100 World Tour!!" In order to unlock all the games, like "Super Mario Kart", "Mario Kart 64", "Mario Kart: Super Circuit", "Mario Kart: Double Dash!!", "Mario Kart DS", "Mario Kart Wii", "Mario Kart 7", "Mario Kart 8 (Deluxe)", and "Mario Kart Tour", you got to play as Daisy, and get 3 stars in 100cc.
@@brianjude6789 Wow really ? In order to play Super Mario Kart, I have to play as Daisy and get 3 stars in 100cc ? That doesn't make any fucking sense, but thanks I'll remember that if I ever want to play this game on my switch
I didn't know I could do that for 10 years... then someone told me about it. I just looked at them dying inside because I could never blow up the balloons with the mic on any DS.
Nostalgia graphics at work. For the longest time I used to think that SM64 had much better graphics than SM64 DS, as that was how I remembered it. It was quite the shock, honestly.
It looks much better on the DS screen size, and you don't notice it as much when you're focused on playing. Lots of DS games did suffer from pixelation, though. The assets are often surprisingly high-quality when you use emulator upscaling.
6:31 Funny how you mention spraying the tires with ink, because not many people notice this, but that actually happens in Mario Kart 8 Deluxe! Believe me, I've had a few experiences where the blooper tripped me up because it made my tires slicker and thus harder to steer.
Same here. I haaaate the Blooper in Mario Kart 8, especially on 200cc, because of how important drifting is to maintaining speed and control. The amount of times I've gone flying off the track because of the blooper's effect on my tires is wild. Blooper sharply reduces your traction in Mario Kart 8. I think having Blooper affect your tires/traction/handling is cool in theory, but really not fun in practice.
When I was 16 (10th grade) my class went on a trip, and on the 8 hour long bus tour we had nearly two full lobbies of Mario Kart DS players and this was probably my best school time memory Long live MarioKart DS!
I know how that is. When I was 12 (6th grade), we went on a school field trip that took 3 hours on the bus. We had a full lobby of MarioKart DS. I do wish they made it so you could use any track with download play (as opposed to just mushroom and shell cups), and that everyone selects a track and you randomly pick from those (as opposed to P1 just picking).
Something really satisfying i remember doing when I was a kid with ds was keeping close to the second player when someone gets a blue shell and letting them overtake me when it's launched or before it's launched so it switches targets to them instead Oh so good
7:13 Actually. The red she'll hit the banana nearest to your Kart so all of the bananas fell off. It usually would protect you three times but that time it hit you juuuuust right to knock all of your bananas off. It happened to me in DS before
I remember going on a field trip once in the 5th grade. We all had DSes and were playing Mario Kart. I remember everyone groaning in unison on the bus when the DS battle map came up.
I totally agree with this. From 3rd to 6th grade, this was the norm for my friends and me on field trips. More often than not, we would remember the journey playing MKDS more than we would remember the field trip itself. Heck, after one field trip in 5th grade, we got into a heated discussion about some of the stuff that had happened in an MKDS race the day before (I was part of this, having been accidentally put on a team by myself). It got so heated that our teacher had to say "E-Enough, with the DS." And that was just the day AFTER. Not even the actual game playing.
@Rhea Most items you can't use have the same affect as the shells, so it's not a big deal at the end of the day. Even then, the rubber band AI in Super isn't nearly as bad as in 64.
True, the rubber band isn't as bad in Super : it's worse. The AI is programmed to do a specific time. No matter how much you hit them, they will rubberband like crazy to get back in line. The only way an AI wont make it's time is if it gets hit right before the end. It's so ridiculous, you're basically not competing in a race, you're doing a time trial with invincible moving obstacles that try to screw you over.
I watched this and now I want to play Mario Kart DS again, I couldn’t find it... Turns out my mom donated it to GoodWill, my childhood has been donated to flippin goodwill.
I seriously hate moms that donate things from their children without asking... I don't want to insult your mom, but what the hell are parents like these thinking?!
Guess what, my DS which has played Mario kart DS for years is still working 100% Tho that is probably because I got it 2 years ago for the 2006 model, but it was used, and it works perfectly.
I am so sorry to hear this! I had all of my DS games stolen when I was younger, so I've been slowly building my collection back up of games I used to have by buying them from Ebay. Again, I'm so sorry to hear that! I hate when stuff like that happens. :(
hearing that "vrm vrm here we go!" in the intro is always so grating to me. On the original DS he would say "yihoo!" and I am just so used to hearing it that way
On my red/silver DS it wouldn't even go "vroom vroom" It made that distant engine sound from MK64 then went "Here we go!" I think its different per DS model but it isn't documented online.
SilokHawk It really isn't documented? I used to make that happen all the time by closing my DS just before the opening sequence then re-opening the DS and it usually happened. I discovered it myself when I was young so I'm pretty proud
i just noticed: the red shell that took all his bananas away? It actually hit the fist banana behind him, making the other ones go away either way, thats still pretty skill/luck based
@@Mcnibbus actually no, what happened there was that the red shell took out the first banana, and as a ladder effect the 2 others got dropped. But to something like that to happen is very rare.
@@Mcnibbus It isn't a mechanic. In MKDS red shells are coded to target the player's back HALF rather than the direct CENTER of the player's back. This causes them to do "sick drifts" around held items more often then you'd think. what happened there was the red shell swerved around the first 2 bananas in the stack but hit the 3rd (the one closest to the car). As he shows later in the video, red shells will often completely ignore held items and hit you. This mostly happens when turning corners or when drifting, as the held items go far off-center when doing these actions, giving the shell a massive radius to hit the player.
No, just affects your drifting. Doesn't up your speed. If you remember the stormcloud item from MK Wii, that one did raise your speed, to aid in the hot-potato aspect. You also didn't slowdown while offroading.
That was me. If I was splatted by a blooper I just looked at the bottom screen. Bloopers didn't have much purpose in Mario Kart DS because you could just look at the bottom screen.
@@wyattschuette1737 Yeah, if you ask me, they should have made the Blooper cover the screen so much you would have to use the touch screen to see. Since Nintendo loved using the touchscreen in DS games so much and all.
I am SO glad you talked about the battle mode and how it's last man standing. I've always loved that about Mario Kart DS battle mode and it's why I often find myself coming back to the game.
Mines on the ds these years, it may be difficult to pull and you had to master it so well and it takes mad skill to pull it off. Once you master it you will become this good in this game
[VenomousSnake37] i say that to keep a lighthearted tone, especially because you can’t hear how i’m saying it. if I were to be straightforward and say “you’re wrong, because it actually started in super circuit”, it would come across as negative, and i want to be as positive as possible.
17:29 "Next thing you knew, there were 5 of us playing Mario Kart battle play of demo mode" that lowkey made me tear up realizing all the fun memories of elementary school and how I met some friends that way
Ah MarioKart DS was the game that I played with both of my cousins and my sister when we were younger and it was one of the things that brought us close together. I miss those times :’).
Nintendo: Here play this new gamemode called mission mode! Community: * loves it * Nintendo: We got rid of mission mode for future games... Community: That wasn't very cash money of you.
When I was in middle school everyone at my school had a ds and only one guy had mariokart ds he game shared and wanted everyone to play it. we only played when the bus drove us to school and home. I wish I can go back in time to play it again with my friends again and those people in the bus
@Gook I know. “8-player schoolbus Mariokart Download Play” is sadly going to become a term that the latter half of Gen Z will never truly understand. 😢
1:21 This was the 1st game I've played in my LIFE. I loved this game. I definitely didn't break my DS 4 times... Snapped it in half. Put Pringles in the cartridge slot hoping for a Pringles game... I was 3, Ok.
It also was my first game. It was in my summer holiday with my whole family (almost) I don't know how old I was. But me and my twin played the game on my aunts DS I love this game. Best Mario Kart for me
After watching this I looked at my DSI and found the last game I played on that was MKDS, and that was 5 years ago. So OF COURSE I went and played for 2 hours straight. It's a good as hell game.
I love Mario Kart DS to death. Maybe it’s just me and my expectations at the time, but I thought it was seriously ahead of its time. Since you could race online, mission modes, etc. With that being said however, I still prefer Mario Kart Wii. The bikes took the series to a whole nother level, and they really helped feed that desire to go fast with all its tricks that couldn’t be done with karts. And that’s only scratching the surface. I wish they had never gotten rid of online for it... Can I please see my family again SilokHawk?
Wagsternator Memez I know. I just want my parents back. SilokHawk is holding them hostage, I don’t know their location, there’s nothing the police can do. It’s not fair
@@djdeadbeat4380 Arcade GP 2 is better Just kidding, lol...or am I? For real though, the Arcade game are fun if you never played them, better than Mario Kart Wii? Probably not but they are still a great time!
As someone that has traded Mario Kart DS for Mario Kart Wii, I'm gonna have to disagree. IMO, bikes are broken to the point where there's no reason to use a kart. Also getting three stars in every cup is damn near impossible because the game is super unfair with it's requirements. There was one time where I met all the requirements for a three star, and the game STILL didn't give it to me.
6:50 I would like to object here. I’ve played this game so damn much as a kid, and still do, but the one thing I remember about these three bananas is that it depends on the angle they are hit on. If they are hit on an angle they will all be gone. If they are hit straight on, only one will be used, this angle problem is also confirmed by yourself right after, as you explain that a red shell can still hit you even if you have a banana behind you. Even with this mistake this is a great video on this amazing game. MkDS needed more attention. And this video give it what it deserves
I’m so glad someone else picked up on this as-well, it was annoying me he misunderstood what happened during that interaction. As for the red shell behaviour, the red shells always follow the centre of the track, so if your on the outside of the track the red shell may attack you at to shallow of an angle depending on your position, and not hit you from behind. If your close to an opponent and are facing at a 45 degree angle from them, you can manipulate the red shell to loop around and attack from the front; great for dealing with opponents protecting themselves with items.
I was a game reviewer back in the day and I got my hands on this game like a full month before it officially hit store and I remember what hell it was trying to get online. I basically had to walk the streets for an hour before I found a Wi-Fi connection I could leech onto xD and it was right next to a crossroad so I would just stand right there for like another solid hour and the only people I could play against was of course mostly Japanese people who already had the game before us xD Good times Seriously though, bring back Mission Mode already, Nintendo
Good lord that unlocked memories that were sealed away 💀💀 I remember convincing my mom to take me to Wendy's/Mcdonald's not for the food, but the free wifi! This was way before everybody and their grandma had hotspots around every corner
God I remember playing the DS when I was a little kid, trying to 100% the entire game with 3 stars on everything, beating the in-game japanese highest records, and then at midnight watching that lil' scene at the end of the cups, god so many old memories of finally being able to beat mario kart on the DS, I really wish they had brought something like that back, maybe like "Mario Kart Grand Prix" with everything back... Only one man can wish such old and new features to return in a new installment...
I really wish I still had my Mario kart for DS, if only who ever stole it never did I probably would be still playing it right now all these years later.
Since when was there a tank and an excavation crane in this game?? R.O.B.'s here too?? A 7th Mission category?? Honestly, that's how you know you got a good game, when you blew a good 30% of your childhood mastering battle mode without ever getting to the unlockable stuff and had a blast doing so.
1:03 Technically missions did return. They're in Mario Kart Tour. 6:06 Mega mushroom came back in Mario Kart Tour as well. 11:07 Mario Kart: Super Circuit had retro tracks.
@Blazeit Barry This video was uploaded on October 4th while Mario Kart Tour released over a week before that. He could've just changed his script a tiny bit. It's fine though...
@@ElectroBlastLuigi he did mention Tour at the end of the video, not in specific reference to the missions, but in general that it changed some things. I assume he'd already mostly finished.
The reason you couldnt get wifi to work might be because the DS dosnt support WPA or WPA2. You need to set up a router using WEP. Make sure you turn it off right after because its super insucure.
Setting up online with MKDS is such a pain. I got it to work once, but setting up a router with wep is difficult, since most routers don't really use it. I had to get a virtual machine with windows xp, and get the ds wifi connector. It works, but it's such a pain regardless.
8:49 Agree, it's a beautiful track (and it still looks great) with fantastic loop-de-loop parts and a wonderful song. Plus, it's a more interesting Rainbow Road then the original from Super Mario Kart.
Fun fact: Mario Kart Wii was planned to have a Mission mode, but they scrapped it to make the online challenge mode that I think had one or two missions every week, with a single boss fight that appeared three times throughout the online mode's existence. Kind-of wished I knew that sooner, as I barely used the online mode in Mario Kart Wii.
@@paulgilbert5278 Kinda... The whole thing worked really well, but there were too many elite players, so I never really bothered. But had I known about the Mario Galaxy boss battle sooner, I would've only played online just to fight it.
6:56 actually the red hit the banana holding the others back so the others broke off
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Yeah, this is a common thing, since red shells are following you strictly and since Silok was turning around a corner, the shell went to hit whatever was strictly behind him, making all the other bananas go away.
Thomas Plenty of people do, especially when they don’t have other people over. There’s no valid excuse to not make a game better by not including more substantial single player content
I remember I went over to my friends house, I played mario kart ds and the next my mum got me a birthday cake based on the ds battle mini game stage. I was pretty hype
18:13 modern wifi uses WPA encryption, DS only supports WEP if I'm not mistaken. You can change it in your router but be aware WEP is very easy to hack
One of my fondest gaming memories was a thing called "Toy Day" at Primary School. This must've been around Year 5, or 10 years old, and pretty much everyone brought their Nintendo DS's in - it was the height of the original handheld boom. So, we did a massive 20 person Mario Kart DS Tournament using Download play, having like a tournament tree and everything. I remember winning one of them, but we ran multiple that day. It was the great equaliser - it didn't matter who you were that day - all that mattered is that you were playing Mario Kart - in a weird way it brought our class a little bit closer.
There needs to be a Mario kart ultimate we’re you have to unlocked every character and there’s every course and every battle course and have a dlc that adds more courses and characters
I remember when this game was THE game to get. I still enjoy it time to time, I really like the controls and how it handles. I'm also still really good with the balloon battles.
1:59 I have a potential theory why ROB (HVC-012) was included in MKDS. ROB was released in Japan (as HVC-012) in July 1985. It was also sold at the NYC test launch of the NES in October 1985. Mario Kart DS was released in 2005, which not many people notice was 20 years since the release of ROB. I guess Nintendo wanted to celebrate, just like they did with the 20th Anniversary of Super Mario Bros?
Blue shells in DS and items in general if i remember correctly depend on place and distance so if your overlapped by first or something your more likely to get lightnings and blue shells and stuff, if your in first you get shells and bananas, so it makes it hard af to get a 3 star on a race since if your too far away there will be more blue shells and lightnings
7:49 In Mario Kart 7, the rules for getting 3 stars were even more convoluted. You had to get first overall, be first for the entirety of a lap in each race, and have a good time
@@somerandomidiot8050 That’s not true at all, Wii’s is bullshit. If you go down to 9th or lower at all, you’re done for. Driving into a banana or off-road? Good luck trying to get that three star.
Personally, this was 1 of my favorites. I also loved the HELL out of waluigi pinball, & agree with some of the errors with the design that they made that you mentioned. Great video, as always.
Shroom Ridge was one of my favorite courses back then, and it's real easy for everyone to forget that course. Heck, I even forgot it existed until the video.
I saw a used copy of the game in a store a couple years ago and bought that, and have been having so much fun playing one of my favorite childhood games. Even if as a kid it was Wii that my friends (and maybe me at certain points in my childhood because when Wii came out it was the cool new game) would want to play that instead of DS, I absolutely love now how technical DS can be. It has great drift mechanics. I’m definitely going to have to check out the fan servers soon.
i love ds so much, my family had competitions everytime we met back in the day, and i feel like we explored every part of the game, like one time we found out you could avoid a blue shell by drifting and jumping at the right time. such a good game
Blue shells could be avoided by releasing a drift boost while jumping with a perfect timing, right when the shell was amorcing its final dive in order to hit you. It required a lot of skill to be able to perform this technic almost each time but that’s the difference between a three stars and a one stars player ;)
Once I was trying to tell someone at school about DS games because they had never had a DS growing up, the next day when we were at lunch they started ranting about how bad the graphics were and me and my friends were just staring at them wondering if they knew the DS was released all the way back in 2003.
Mario Kart DS was so amazing. To just be able to host a race when no one else has the game is something we'll look back to as the "golden days".
Yeah, I tell you that. And you know Mario Kart: DS is the fifth installment of the Mario Kart series, after Mario Kart for SNES called Super Mario Kart-the first game of the Mario Kart series, and Mario Kart 64-the second installment of the Mario Kart series, and Mario Kart: Super Circuit-the third installment of Mario Kart series, before Mario Kart DS-the fifth installment for the Nintendo DS, Mario Kart Wii-the sixth installment for the Nintendo Wii, Mario Kart 7-the seventh installment for the Nintendo 3DS, Mario Kart 8 & Mario Kart 8 Deluxe-the eighth installments for the Nintendo Wii U and Nintendo Switch, and you know Mario Kart: Double Dash is the unlockable in Mario Kart 7’s 3DS sequel installment for the Nintendo 3DS called "Mario Kart: The Top 100 World Tour!!"
In order to unlock all the games, like "Super Mario Kart", "Mario Kart 64", "Mario Kart: Super Circuit", "Mario Kart: Double Dash!!", "Mario Kart DS", "Mario Kart Wii", "Mario Kart 7", "Mario Kart 8 (Deluxe)", and "Mario Kart Tour", you got to play as Daisy, and get 3 stars in 100cc.
@@brianjude6789 oof to many letters
Don’t do that don’t give me nostalgia
Mk7 has download play
@@brianjude6789 Wow really ? In order to play Super Mario Kart, I have to play as Daisy and get 3 stars in 100cc ? That doesn't make any fucking sense, but thanks I'll remember that if I ever want to play this game on my switch
"I like how you have to blow into the mic to blow up balloons"
Me: Casually holds down Select...
Woah! You can do that?
Blowing was faster though
I didn't know I could do that for 10 years... then someone told me about it.
I just looked at them dying inside because I could never blow up the balloons with the mic on any DS.
Only way I ever did it.
You could WHAT
When I was a kid, I didn't know that the retro tracks were remakes. I just called them "the bad tracks".
I was just confused ''why are there weird letters?'' oof
Like "what's a SNES?" pronounced "s-ness"
TheShadow118 yes!! I used to call is sness too. I knew it was from a previous version but I didn't know whih
Same lol
Glad I'm not the only one
Bruh when I was little having Dry Bones felt like I was privileged
YEEEEEEEESS
Facts.
Fr
When I was 5 I 100% the game I’m still confused on how I did that
@@rarebit3818 just playing bruh
"I bet many people didn't even know it was an 2d animation"
Me: ...oh, what?
they animated them in 3d and then recorded them into 2d pictures so it doesnt strain the n64
@@likeanuuk6612 yeah, i understood that after i found out that its 2d , But bevore that i never would have guessed that its Not 3d
I mean the entire character is just a pre-rendered 2D sprite.
Same
This game used to look so much better when I was little.
truest thing ever been said!
Gekkemesto true
Nostalgia graphics at work. For the longest time I used to think that SM64 had much better graphics than SM64 DS, as that was how I remembered it.
It was quite the shock, honestly.
It still does look great the video just makes it look more pixelated than it really is
It looks much better on the DS screen size, and you don't notice it as much when you're focused on playing. Lots of DS games did suffer from pixelation, though. The assets are often surprisingly high-quality when you use emulator upscaling.
God: * creates people*
People: create Mario Kart DS
God: perfection
when your creation creates something better than themselves, it's perfection. right? left?
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Zachary Mohammadi Mario kart DS is bad and unfair
mario kart ds is the only mario kart game I own tbh ...
Kaven1998 lol
6:31 Funny how you mention spraying the tires with ink, because not many people notice this, but that actually happens in Mario Kart 8 Deluxe! Believe me, I've had a few experiences where the blooper tripped me up because it made my tires slicker and thus harder to steer.
Same here. I haaaate the Blooper in Mario Kart 8, especially on 200cc, because of how important drifting is to maintaining speed and control. The amount of times I've gone flying off the track because of the blooper's effect on my tires is wild. Blooper sharply reduces your traction in Mario Kart 8. I think having Blooper affect your tires/traction/handling is cool in theory, but really not fun in practice.
Same
Yup also on mk 7
Yeah, blooper actually decreases your handling in the more modern games
Interesting fact: all the bosses in the mission mode are the same bosses from Super Mario 64 DS
It would have saved development time that's for sure. Should keep doing that.
mushroom0 thepro not all bosses from 64 DS were in Mario Kart but all Mario Kart mission bosses were from 64 DS
I mean, they did it before with the first New Super Mario Bros. as well, especially with the minigames.
@@mubzytv Whomp King and Bowser...right?
Thanks Sherlock
When I was 16 (10th grade) my class went on a trip, and on the 8 hour long bus tour we had nearly two full lobbies of Mario Kart DS players and this was probably my best school time memory
Long live MarioKart DS!
That sounds like so much fun
@@willkershisnik5893 Haha it is, not many things are as good as playing MarioKart with a big group of friends :D
I know how that is. When I was 12 (6th grade), we went on a school field trip that took 3 hours on the bus. We had a full lobby of MarioKart DS.
I do wish they made it so you could use any track with download play (as opposed to just mushroom and shell cups), and that everyone selects a track and you randomly pick from those (as opposed to P1 just picking).
@@nicorosbergf1fan783 damn, wish I was there with you
New gen gamers:
Y'all wanna play on the switch during this busride?
Scott The Woz was working his way through the Mario Kart games, SilokHawk did it for a poll. If people are wondering the coincidence.
Ngl, I was skeptical as hell 😂
Yeah I was like "Hmmm, this video looks familiar."
Scott forgot Arcade GP though so he must pay for his actions.
the coincidence:
They we were playing online together lol
I hate coincidences.
Dry bones is literally the remnant of the Koopa being a playable character
“Imagine they didn’t choose you, they chose a dead you.” - Scott The Woz.
@@TortillaPizzeria I thought of this quote lol
Did you use a spoon person as your icon? Where can I get that photo?
@@spudwilkins9440 I think I just looked up "spoon with fork hands"
And brought a mf tank with him for some just desserts.
Something really satisfying i remember doing when I was a kid with ds was keeping close to the second player when someone gets a blue shell and letting them overtake me when it's launched or before it's launched so it switches targets to them instead
Oh so good
oooh nooo i *accidently* hit the brakes
How am i gonna recover from this?
*boom*
Thx
Goldfire345 same I lost so many friends that way
I remember watching a friend play. He suddenly got first place while having a blue shell. I couldn't resist pressing x on his DS...
bruuuuh that was my technique too!!
@@theAstarrr I would never forgive myself if I wasted that opportunity
7:13 Actually. The red she'll hit the banana nearest to your Kart so all of the bananas fell off. It usually would protect you three times but that time it hit you juuuuust right to knock all of your bananas off. It happened to me in DS before
Can we just talk about that menu theme though 🔥🔥🔥
Aube
it's a chill slap 👏
It slaps hard
But not too hard
And I like that
@@theivoryguy2476 just like my dad
Huh uh.
*R E C O R D S*
Yes please
I remember going on a field trip once in the 5th grade. We all had DSes and were playing Mario Kart. I remember everyone groaning in unison on the bus when the DS battle map came up.
I totally agree with this. From 3rd to 6th grade, this was the norm for my friends and me on field trips. More often than not, we would remember the journey playing MKDS more than we would remember the field trip itself.
Heck, after one field trip in 5th grade, we got into a heated discussion about some of the stuff that had happened in an MKDS race the day before (I was part of this, having been accidentally put on a team by myself). It got so heated that our teacher had to say "E-Enough, with the DS."
And that was just the day AFTER. Not even the actual game playing.
Who else grew up with this Mario Kart ?
junge of the georgle man is here
Wii for me. DS is great though, as well
Oh my god I see you everywhere
Me, in fact this game came the same year I was born!
Nathaniel Foga This one and Double Dash
If you think about it,
Mario Kart DS is actually the first battle royale.
Katomic Comics woah 🤯
How
The Chef Boo balloon battle was basically battle royal
Katomic Comics nah Bomberman
MajesticBoy YT well it’s not close to being the first XD
16:03 I was actually scared to fight the boss cuz I was so young so I asked my cousin to fight him for me
I had my uncle beat mission 7s boss for me
xInsamity SAMMEEE
I was like 7 and I was bloody terrified
Those missions were hard too do.
"There isn't a stupid amount of Rubber banding as there is in Wii"
*Laughs in Mario Kart 64*
Yeah I played that game and I love Wii's but damn 64 has some bad issues with rubber banding
In 64 every cc felt like 150cc 😂
Definitely SNES mario kart is the worst. The NPCS literally get items you can't use. They can just do that;.
@Rhea
Most items you can't use have the same affect as the shells, so it's not a big deal at the end of the day. Even then, the rubber band AI in Super isn't nearly as bad as in 64.
True, the rubber band isn't as bad in Super : it's worse.
The AI is programmed to do a specific time.
No matter how much you hit them, they will rubberband like crazy to get back in line.
The only way an AI wont make it's time is if it gets hit right before the end.
It's so ridiculous, you're basically not competing in a race, you're doing a time trial with invincible moving obstacles that try to screw you over.
"Who the hell was beggin for Luigi's Circuit to come back"
Me: Allow me to introduce myself
You. You did this.
*screams*
Why did u do this
The ONLY part of Luigi's Circuit that I liked was it's DS version of the theme.
The way you can always interact with the other racers regardless of your placement makes it a favourite of mine
I watched this and now I want to play Mario Kart DS again, I couldn’t find it...
Turns out my mom donated it to GoodWill, my childhood has been donated to flippin goodwill.
I seriously hate moms that donate things from their children without asking... I don't want to insult your mom, but what the hell are parents like these thinking?!
Ouch, hope you find it again soon
Bet you drifting button on your Nintendo is broken anyways (literally everybodys is :()
Guess what, my DS which has played Mario kart DS for years is still working 100%
Tho that is probably because I got it 2 years ago for the 2006 model, but it was used, and it works perfectly.
I am so sorry to hear this! I had all of my DS games stolen when I was younger, so I've been slowly building my collection back up of games I used to have by buying them from Ebay. Again, I'm so sorry to hear that! I hate when stuff like that happens. :(
hearing that "vrm vrm here we go!" in the intro is always so grating to me. On the original DS he would say "yihoo!" and I am just so used to hearing it that way
On my red/silver DS it wouldn't even go "vroom vroom"
It made that distant engine sound from MK64 then went "Here we go!"
I think its different per DS model but it isn't documented online.
i think the "yahoo" is random chance and comes from unlocking everything.
SilokHawk It really isn't documented? I used to make that happen all the time by closing my DS just before the opening sequence then re-opening the DS and it usually happened. I discovered it myself when I was young so I'm pretty proud
@@silokhawk hm I have the red DS bundle that you mentioned in the video and it does the vroom vroom
What other ds game even does this?
Man, that closing cutscene really hits hard…
20:13 that hit me hard with memories
I miss the days when everything was so simple
Sheamac78 I render that animation 😢
once I cried during the credits when I was younger
The ending is so beautiful
I was crying a bit from the Mario 64 DS ending.
WHAT THERES A LEVEL 7? Eight years later this comes out now
Dude, I just found that out last week.
I found that out in 2018 but I had the game since 2009
you need to get 1 star on every mission to unlock it
Yea I’m getting back on
60
Scott the Woz and Silohawk uploading a mario kart ds vid in the same week?
Coincidence?
I think...so
I was gonna mention the same thing
_Scott: AM I A JOKE TO U?_
Hey all, Jordan here
Great minds think alike I guess.
Scott’s been doing Mario Kart videos. It’s a whole series, as far as I know
i just noticed: the red shell that took all his bananas away? It actually hit the fist banana behind him, making the other ones go away
either way, thats still pretty skill/luck based
Rasana Rose no it’s a mechanic the naners can be used offensively 3 times but defensively once
@@Mcnibbus actually no, what happened there was that the red shell took out the first banana, and as a ladder effect the 2 others got dropped.
But to something like that to happen is very rare.
Cesar Castillo happens to me when I play ds all the time and I’m pretty sure he said it was a mechanic of the game
@@Mcnibbus it happens but rarely, not always.
@@Mcnibbus It isn't a mechanic. In MKDS red shells are coded to target the player's back HALF rather than the direct CENTER of the player's back. This causes them to do "sick drifts" around held items more often then you'd think. what happened there was the red shell swerved around the first 2 bananas in the stack but hit the 3rd (the one closest to the car). As he shows later in the video, red shells will often completely ignore held items and hit you. This mostly happens when turning corners or when drifting, as the held items go far off-center when doing these actions, giving the shell a massive radius to hit the player.
6:34 Actually, thats a side effect of the Blooper in MK8, granted it's only really noticable when you drift, but it's there.
Yeah, it is. Seems like Hawk hasn't played enough Mario kart 8 deluxe.
I heard about this recently.
Apparently you go slightly faster if you’ve been hit by Bloopers.
No, just affects your drifting. Doesn't up your speed.
If you remember the stormcloud item from MK Wii, that one did raise your speed, to aid in the hot-potato aspect. You also didn't slowdown while offroading.
I remember the Blooper increasing your speed in DS as well
I somehow never noticed that in 8!
7:50 and I've even played enough to 3 star everything!
Am I the only one that played looking at the bottom screen most of the time? Especially when bloopers got used
Or to see what objects the other one's had. It was really useful.
I remember trying to beat a race looking only at the bottom screen.
I failed... ._.
Nope. That skill really helps me now in MK8DX
That was me. If I was splatted by a blooper I just looked at the bottom screen. Bloopers didn't have much purpose in Mario Kart DS because you could just look at the bottom screen.
@@wyattschuette1737 Yeah, if you ask me, they should have made the Blooper cover the screen so much you would have to use the touch screen to see. Since Nintendo loved using the touchscreen in DS games so much and all.
I remember stealing my sisters balloons in battle mode, with the mushroom, and her crying and telling my mom :')
Did you get in trouble or not?
@@SuperMarioAutist We might never know.
Same with me bud same with me
@@AngelaGoober you also stole his sister's balloons?
Tf she gonna tell her mom
I am SO glad you talked about the battle mode and how it's last man standing. I've always loved that about Mario Kart DS battle mode and it's why I often find myself coming back to the game.
“Tricky to pull off”
Me: speedrun the game while drifting couple million times
My thumb; kill me
Snaking is a lot easier on the 3ds
Mines on the ds these years, it may be difficult to pull and you had to master it so well and it takes mad skill to pull it off. Once you master it you will become this good in this game
69th like aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
My DS's R button fell out
My "r" button: why god?
WAIT THERE'S A WORLD 7
Get a star on every level
@@o1aa3hjuqe I actually got a star on every level but I dont think i ever got the world 7. dont know why
Ya your a dumb guy
@@warren5037 i believe you need to max out all missions so 3 stars iirc. Then the new mission world is unlocked and that caterpillar boss is hard af.
Louie Curley *you're
silokhawk: “mario kart ds was the first game with retro tracks”
mario kart super circuit: “am i a joke to you?”
thought the same haha
I guess "first game to establish the modern retro track system" is a bit of a mouthful.
[VenomousSnake37] i say that to keep a lighthearted tone, especially because you can’t hear how i’m saying it. if I were to be straightforward and say “you’re wrong, because it actually started in super circuit”, it would come across as negative, and i want to be as positive as possible.
[Nicky Neutrite] then don’t say something that is a mouthful! how about “the first game to use retro tracks as the official name”.
[Drew P. Weiner] you are talking about tracks which are, 1. from a retro game, 2. remade. these are what retro tracks are.
17:29 "Next thing you knew, there were 5 of us playing Mario Kart battle play of demo mode" that lowkey made me tear up realizing all the fun memories of elementary school and how I met some friends that way
The fact that I never played this game and still know how iconic waluigi pinball is should tell u how mad I am rn
But I get ur point sadly.
Did you play it?
@@MR-os1kf I said I never played it, and no I haven't played it since.
@@gddanielk8491 I hope you play it eventually. It’s a really good game.
That Mariokart DS credits theme still hits me deep every time I listen to it. Every song in MK DS is so nostalgic.
Somewhat that agrees thank you
“DS has a battle mode I would actually want to play” Someone had to say it!
So you eat shit?
@@michaelrosa9593 Breh, you litteraly have fortnite in your username.
@@papadane6807 foodi
And
Ah MarioKart DS was the game that I played with both of my cousins and my sister when we were younger and it was one of the things that brought us close together. I miss those times :’).
"As long as you get first in all four races, you get three stars."
3DS: Am I a joke to you?
More like Wii.
+Corwin Schuerch
That's not true, I've hit first place in Mario Kart 7 4 times in a row and still not gotten 3 stars.
@@TheGamersState Exactly
More like Mario Kart Tour
Corwin Schuerch I’m not sure why, but I get first place in all four races in the Grand Prix and YET I DONT GET THE GOLD CUP.
cpu's going left and right when blooper'd reduces their speed because straight line is faster
Snaking:
@NK - 07WR - Springbrook PS (1445) it was a joke man
Why have I only thought if this when you said it...
@UCPorNXdmgF6YMCUMkTPbckw hey dumbass, that’s the joke! better luck next time!
Nintendo: Here play this new gamemode called mission mode!
Community: * loves it *
Nintendo: We got rid of mission mode for future games...
Community: That wasn't very cash money of you.
NAh, I dont Miss mission mode
Because I didnt know how to unlock wiggler as a boss
I tried every thing, thats why i don't miss it (WOFF)🐶
Bruh mission mode was in mk wii but only on the nintendo WFC
BlueDevil42 it was originally going to be in the offline mode too, but it was scrapped
@@dissguynotreallyaguy3549 To unlock level 7, you have to get at least on star on every mission from level 1-6
@@mariajimenafigueroa8311 i have a QUESTION
Why is there a mission where you pick and throw things?
I've only played this Mario Kart and my heart dropped upon multiple reveals like the only game with missions and the only game with emblem maker.
When I was in middle school everyone at my school had a ds and only one guy had mariokart ds he game shared and wanted everyone to play it. we only played when the bus drove us to school and home. I wish I can go back in time to play it again with my friends again and those people in the bus
did you ever play it on field trips?
@Gook I know. “8-player schoolbus Mariokart Download Play” is sadly going to become a term that the latter half of Gen Z will never truly understand. 😢
true that
1:21 This was the 1st game I've played in my LIFE. I loved this game. I definitely didn't break my DS 4 times...
Snapped it in half. Put Pringles in the cartridge slot hoping for a Pringles game... I was 3, Ok.
That pringles story deserves an oscar
It also was my first game.
It was in my summer holiday with my whole family (almost)
I don't know how old I was. But me and my twin played the game on my aunts DS
I love this game. Best Mario Kart for me
Tf why did you have a ds at 3?
@@wingedfish1175 I had a GBA SP when I couldn`t even read
Ahaaaaaaahaahaha. I did that with my old PS3 when i was around 2.
WIIMMFI
tnx for the mention :D
Btw, i dont have a cat
Lol, he didn't get that's the name of the unofficial server! You should point that out to him!
After watching this I looked at my DSI and found the last game I played on that was MKDS, and that was 5 years ago. So OF COURSE I went and played for 2 hours straight. It's a good as hell game.
I love Mario Kart DS to death. Maybe it’s just me and my expectations at the time, but I thought it was seriously ahead of its time. Since you could race online, mission modes, etc.
With that being said however, I still prefer Mario Kart Wii. The bikes took the series to a whole nother level, and they really helped feed that desire to go fast with all its tricks that couldn’t be done with karts. And that’s only scratching the surface. I wish they had never gotten rid of online for it...
Can I please see my family again SilokHawk?
There are also Wiimmifii servers for Mario Kart Wii, just like DS. So if you still wanted to play online you technically could.
Wagsternator Memez I know. I just want my parents back. SilokHawk is holding them hostage, I don’t know their location, there’s nothing the police can do. It’s not fair
Mariokart Wii is amazing and in my opinion is the pinnacle of Mariokart
@@djdeadbeat4380 Arcade GP 2 is better
Just kidding, lol...or am I? For real though, the Arcade game are fun if you never played them, better than Mario Kart Wii? Probably not but they are still a great time!
As someone that has traded Mario Kart DS for Mario Kart Wii, I'm gonna have to disagree. IMO, bikes are broken to the point where there's no reason to use a kart. Also getting three stars in every cup is damn near impossible because the game is super unfair with it's requirements. There was one time where I met all the requirements for a three star, and the game STILL didn't give it to me.
6:50
I would like to object here.
I’ve played this game so damn much as a kid, and still do, but the one thing I remember about these three bananas is that it depends on the angle they are hit on. If they are hit on an angle they will all be gone. If they are hit straight on, only one will be used, this angle problem is also confirmed by yourself right after, as you explain that a red shell can still hit you even if you have a banana behind you.
Even with this mistake this is a great video on this amazing game. MkDS needed more attention. And this video give it what it deserves
And, strategic use, like dropping one before it gets to you can help a lot.
I’m so glad someone else picked up on this as-well, it was annoying me he misunderstood what happened during that interaction.
As for the red shell behaviour, the red shells always follow the centre of the track, so if your on the outside of the track the red shell may attack you at to shallow of an angle depending on your position, and not hit you from behind. If your close to an opponent and are facing at a 45 degree angle from them, you can manipulate the red shell to loop around and attack from the front; great for dealing with opponents protecting themselves with items.
I was a game reviewer back in the day and I got my hands on this game like a full month before it officially hit store and I remember what hell it was trying to get online. I basically had to walk the streets for an hour before I found a Wi-Fi connection I could leech onto xD and it was right next to a crossroad so I would just stand right there for like another solid hour and the only people I could play against was of course mostly Japanese people who already had the game before us xD
Good times
Seriously though, bring back Mission Mode already, Nintendo
Good lord that unlocked memories that were sealed away 💀💀 I remember convincing my mom to take me to Wendy's/Mcdonald's not for the food, but the free wifi! This was way before everybody and their grandma had hotspots around every corner
Shroom Ridge was pretty great, the forest below the cliff looked great and weaving through traffic near a cliff edge was a highlight.
I'll never forget being in elementary school going on DS download during lunch time with 8 people, just had to have 1 person bring the game in!
Idc what anyone says, Mario Kart DS easily has the best battle mode
Battle mode on dubble dash.
The ending just brought back soooo many memories
God I remember playing the DS when I was a little kid, trying to 100% the entire game with 3 stars on everything, beating the in-game japanese highest records, and then at midnight watching that lil' scene at the end of the cups, god so many old memories of finally being able to beat mario kart on the DS, I really wish they had brought something like that back, maybe like "Mario Kart Grand Prix" with everything back... Only one man can wish such old and new features to return in a new installment...
I really wish I still had my Mario kart for DS, if only who ever stole it never did I probably would be still playing it right now all these years later.
Since when was there a tank and an excavation crane in this game?? R.O.B.'s here too?? A 7th Mission category?? Honestly, that's how you know you got a good game, when you blew a good 30% of your childhood mastering battle mode without ever getting to the unlockable stuff and had a blast doing so.
1:03 Technically missions did return. They're in Mario Kart Tour.
6:06 Mega mushroom came back in Mario Kart Tour as well.
11:07 Mario Kart: Super Circuit had retro tracks.
ElectroBlastLuigi missions also in Wii Mario Kart via the Channel Tournaments
He'd made this video prior to Mario kart tour coming out, so technically, he was right.
@Blazeit Barry This video was uploaded on October 4th while Mario Kart Tour released over a week before that. He could've just changed his script a tiny bit. It's fine though...
@@ElectroBlastLuigi he did mention Tour at the end of the video, not in specific reference to the missions, but in general that it changed some things. I assume he'd already mostly finished.
But lets face it, MK Tour Is FREAKING TRASH
We need a Mario Kart DS Remastered!
but only the graphics
@@hallawit5935 thats right.
And maybe the blue shell shit
Tiaguh no, there should just be a new Mario Kart with a mission mode.
And a battle mode that actually lets you play elimination style.
The reason you couldnt get wifi to work might be because the DS dosnt support WPA or WPA2. You need to set up a router using WEP. Make sure you turn it off right after because its super insucure.
Setting up online with MKDS is such a pain. I got it to work once, but setting up a router with wep is difficult, since most routers don't really use it. I had to get a virtual machine with windows xp, and get the ds wifi connector. It works, but it's such a pain regardless.
Also make sure that the wireless mode on your router is 802.11b.
If does with dsi
8:49 Agree, it's a beautiful track (and it still looks great) with fantastic loop-de-loop parts and a wonderful song. Plus, it's a more interesting Rainbow Road then the original from Super Mario Kart.
I’m glad I’m not the only one who thinks DS RR song is amazing.
mario kart is single-handedly one of *the best series of all time*
6:16 Fun Fact: The Blooper actually SPEEDS YOU UP
How?
Paul Gilbert it makes your car go vroom faster
And makes you loose your traction and handlerling stat
Only in MKDS?
Fun fact: Mario Kart Wii was planned to have a Mission mode, but they scrapped it to make the online challenge mode that I think had one or two missions every week, with a single boss fight that appeared three times throughout the online mode's existence.
Kind-of wished I knew that sooner, as I barely used the online mode in Mario Kart Wii.
nah, MKWii online was a nightmare
@@paulgilbert5278
Kinda... The whole thing worked really well, but there were too many elite players, so I never really bothered.
But had I known about the Mario Galaxy boss battle sooner, I would've only played online just to fight it.
18:40 Everytime there’s a bowser in rainbow road
*Dry Bones noises*
6:56 actually the red hit the banana holding the others back so the others broke off
Yeah, this is a common thing, since red shells are following you strictly and since Silok was turning around a corner, the shell went to hit whatever was strictly behind him, making all the other bananas go away.
6:05-6:10
*Mario Kart Tour:* "Am I a joke to you?"
Yes
@@Blueflag04
👏
Mario kart 7 as well
@@jahn5600 mk7 haven't got mega mushrooms
Yeah but MKT mega mushroom is basically just star without the good speed and handling, heck, it doesn't even flatten you
That credits music tugs on my heartstrings with a beautiful veneance
The fact that he included the nostalgic credits at the end really made this video worth watching
Silok = Scott the Woz
Now give me internet points
Do you accept beenz?
I'll give you v-points instead
how bout reddit karma
How has Mission Mode not made a return in the series? Nintendo clearly doesn’t care about the single player content in this series
Sjono to be fair, it’s a very small amount of people that pay single player, and most of them play time trials
I think there was a Mission mode in Mario Kart Wii Channel but it doesn't work anymore
Thomas
Plenty of people do, especially when they don’t have other people over.
There’s no valid excuse to not make a game better by not including more substantial single player content
I remember I went over to my friends house, I played mario kart ds and the next my mum got me a birthday cake based on the ds battle mini game stage. I was pretty hype
I’m pretty sure this is the second time watching this video but it’s that good that watching the second time is just as entertaining as the first
@@a-Tom-ic which track was it
@@Omelander Nintendo DS. It’s an actual battle stage
@@jwil4286 I know that now because I won the game
18:13 modern wifi uses WPA encryption, DS only supports WEP if I'm not mistaken. You can change it in your router but be aware WEP is very easy to hack
One of my fondest gaming memories was a thing called "Toy Day" at Primary School.
This must've been around Year 5, or 10 years old, and pretty much everyone brought their Nintendo DS's in - it was the height of the original handheld boom.
So, we did a massive 20 person Mario Kart DS Tournament using Download play, having like a tournament tree and everything. I remember winning one of them, but we ran multiple that day.
It was the great equaliser - it didn't matter who you were that day - all that mattered is that you were playing Mario Kart - in a weird way it brought our class a little bit closer.
Jakepetrolhead this is the best
That sounds so fun! 😄
I had one of those. They banned DSs because everyone brought them.
peacorptv ouch, bet that made a lot of people unhappy considering how popular it is
There needs to be a Mario kart ultimate we’re you have to unlocked every character and there’s every course and every battle course and have a dlc that adds more courses and characters
No fuck dlc
Super smash bros ultimate. Mario kart edition
It already exists, it's called "Mario Kart: Tour", aka garbage
kinda like Smash Ultimate. How Nintendo plans to make more Smashes (if they do) is far beyond me.
@@asmylia9880 true
I remember when this game was THE game to get. I still enjoy it time to time, I really like the controls and how it handles. I'm also still really good with the balloon battles.
1:59
I have a potential theory why ROB (HVC-012) was included in MKDS.
ROB was released in Japan (as HVC-012) in July 1985. It was also sold at the NYC test launch of the NES in October 1985.
Mario Kart DS was released in 2005, which not many people notice was 20 years since the release of ROB. I guess Nintendo wanted to celebrate, just like they did with the 20th Anniversary of Super Mario Bros?
Yeah, this makes sense
Very likely theory right there.
Blue shells in DS and items in general if i remember correctly depend on place and distance so if your overlapped by first or something your more likely to get lightnings and blue shells and stuff, if your in first you get shells and bananas, so it makes it hard af to get a 3 star on a race since if your too far away there will be more blue shells and lightnings
“The other new addition is dry bone for all you edgelords” don’t make fun of my baby😣
Hahaha edge lord
@@gwroliver3540 edge lords are people too.
I'm not at all an edgy person buy I just love to play as the little gray turtle.
Also Dry Bones's laugh kr-r-aw-aww
Im not an edge lord, but I always like dry bones design, but my favorite character is waluigi
14:59 And thus, Peace has been brought upon the World.
7:49 In Mario Kart 7, the rules for getting 3 stars were even more convoluted. You had to get first overall, be first for the entirety of a lap in each race, and have a good time
Doesn't the same thing apply in Wii?
@@supermariof0521 Nope. In Wii, all you had to do was get first place in a cup for that cup/cc combo to get a gold stamp on your license
@@somerandomidiot8050 That’s not true at all, Wii’s is bullshit. If you go down to 9th or lower at all, you’re done for. Driving into a banana or off-road? Good luck trying to get that three star.
@@sensitiivv_ But I wasn't talking about difficulty, I was talking about the *rules* behind getting gold stamps on your license
It's nice to see someone separate nostalgia and quality. I have nostalgic feelings towards so many things that aren't perfect or downright bad.
Personally, this was 1 of my favorites. I also loved the HELL out of waluigi pinball, & agree with some of the errors with the design that they made that you mentioned. Great video, as always.
Dude why did you just hit me with that nostalgia... it hit hard with that waluigi music 😭😂
Danm i remember just playing the last cup just to go to the segment where they all go back in the sunset lmao
4:26 "But this dumb-looking star car? Yeah, that's the good one."
Hey, that star car was awesome. I won't have you slandering it.
Can I repent my sins
@@silokhawk You better.
20:13 FEEEEELS
(amazing vid btw)
The amount of nostalgia here is mind blowing.
Fun Fact: if you get eliminated in the multiplayer balloon battle you continue playing as an invisible ghost that can place down working item boxes
2:50 fun fact: the objects are actually in 3D in the beta version
I bet they changed it to stabilize the frame rate
Mario Kart DS has LOTS of content that was either changed of cut for the game
maybe this dude is scott’s second half cousin twice removed
Koolmac Pop Scott falco
*mario kart ds falls in trash can
Scott Bradford
Shroom Ridge was one of my favorite courses back then, and it's real easy for everyone to forget that course. Heck, I even forgot it existed until the video.
15:30 "Since we never saw missions return"
Mario kart tour:
I saw a used copy of the game in a store a couple years ago and bought that, and have been having so much fun playing one of my favorite childhood games. Even if as a kid it was Wii that my friends (and maybe me at certain points in my childhood because when Wii came out it was the cool new game) would want to play that instead of DS, I absolutely love now how technical DS can be. It has great drift mechanics. I’m definitely going to have to check out the fan servers soon.
18:53 “muppet face Mario” XD
"you know the drift by wobbling the d-pad back and forth"
emulation gamers: you mean WASD and Arrow keys?
So true 🤣👋
me, an emulation gamer who uses a controller: Pathetic
i love ds so much, my family had competitions everytime we met back in the day, and i feel like we explored every part of the game, like one time we found out you could avoid a blue shell by drifting and jumping at the right time. such a good game
Blue shells could be avoided by releasing a drift boost while jumping with a perfect timing, right when the shell was amorcing its final dive in order to hit you. It required a lot of skill to be able to perform this technic almost each time but that’s the difference between a three stars and a one stars player ;)
11:07 : Mariokart advanced : *i would like to say otherwise*
(Yeah i know it was only snes tracks but still counts as retro)
Idk why people forget super circuit even if they’re just snes tracks
Dear god this takes me back to when I was a kid the nostalgia makes my wants cry 😢 die
Once I was trying to tell someone at school about DS games because they had never had a DS growing up, the next day when we were at lunch they started ranting about how bad the graphics were and me and my friends were just staring at them wondering if they knew the DS was released all the way back in 2003.