The ULTIMATE END Is Coming for 3DS and Wii U
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- Опубликовано: 5 окт 2024
- All online services for 3DS and Wii U are shutting down. The end is nigh.
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"Fans doing what Nintendon't is always a cool thing" is an Arloism on par with "You can't steal from a shop that no longer exists" and I am all for it 👍
“It’s not for sale”
But still I agree with you
He stole it from Sega.
It's from an old Sega commercial. A very fun saying though
Once it happens with a console pretty much everyone has a silent gentleman's agreement that for game preservation such methods are sometimes the only option.
More like nintenwon't😤
Legality aside, this is when there is no longer a moral question to hacking your hardware, in my opinion. If Nintendo cuts off the lifeline of your system, they don't have a say in what you do with it anymore.
I don’t see why there should be any morality issues with hacking a console. You paid for it- it’s yours to do with as you please.
Downloading ROMs is a different topic altogether though.
@@CosmicTornado1not if they're ROMs of games that aren't currently being sold
@@CosmicTornado1 yeah and ? Subs doesn't cut it. Sell us the game or face legit piracy
@@Matanumi What do you mean “yeah and?”? I literally put zero implications one way or the other in regards to the morality of piracy. The only thing I stated that shouldn’t be morally dubious is hacking one’s own console.
You and I likely share many similar feelings towards piracy for games that are no longer available to purchase anyway, lol. You don’t gotta jump at my throat.
There will still be simps who are too scared to hack it because the company doesn't like it.
Shout-out to everyone who still plays the 3ds. There may not be very many of us out there, but we will surely miss everything the 3ds has gifted us over the years.
i bought a bunch of atlus games on sale a while ago so i still have plenty reason to play my 3ds
Idk about you, but I think Wii U players are rarer, ha. Though I own both, I'd argue I easily use the 3DS more because it has my favorite RPG of all time on it, yet that's the only reason I play it, sadly. Luckily it's a singleplayer-only game, so I'm not too mad. But it does suck that its happening, eh. Also, I know this is unrelated, but your profile pic is so cute! Buneary's are the best
@@RevolutionaryOvenwhat’s your favorite rpg?
still playing Donkey kong and Kid icarus on my 3ds, still a great console
I'm getting a 3DS now.
This is why it's important for multiplayer focused games to have singleplayer and vs AI modes. If Splatoon had just made a simple bot player, people could have still try an approximation of the multiplayer experience. But it is what it is. We're too far now.
This is actually a part of why I can't get into Splatoon.
Besides everything being hyper competitive with a rank, there is no bot mode. So I have to sit down and dedicate myself to the game or not buy it. No in between.
@@Buglin_Burger7878You didn’t buy Splatoon 3 on day ZERO???
Too bad! You can’t get everything, you are FUCKED!
Crash Team Rumble is a video game that will eventually stop existing.
@@Buglin_Burger7878 there's always the single player campaign, anyhow you could just play turf war because "pro" players vomit each time they see it, at least the ones I seen, they just play ranked mode, if you want to play ranked tho then I don't think it's a problem because it has a rank system and you get paired with players of the same, or near, your rank, oh and there's also salmon run, some people play exclusively that and don't go into the main multiplayer mode (turf war and ranked mode)
You should just worry about the current state of splatfests, it's more toxic than ever now because Shiver (octoling idol in the news, she's blue) has been on a massive winning streak and people hate her for that and hate that
The day the James Bond series stopped having bot multiplayers was a bad day.
Today we bring you another installment in the "Nintendo hates emulation but they sure do like giving us every reason to emulate their games" saga.
Honestly, I’d say modding your 3DS is better than emulation, you get to play like every 3DS game on its original hardware without paying a single dime for your games, it’s great.
@@3DFella not to mention Citra doesn't have support for 3D effects. Come April I absolutely will be homebrewing so I can keep playing Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate online.
@@3DFellaI mean technically speaking you are playing on og hardware it is emulation
Sad but true!😅
Modded my N3DS after the eShop closed, can’t overstate what a literal game-changer it’s been.
I get why it's happening, but it's such a shame to see these features going away. It really does feel too soon. Please go support Pretendo and their efforts bring them back.
They're almost done.
It's a shame.
It's too soon and relatively cheap to keep the service running compared to DS and Wii
@@Matanumiexactly, it was inevitable but this is completely arbitrary and too soon. 3DS/Wii U is only one generation old - the same generation as PS4/Xbox One. They very easily could have kept them up for another decade at least. They were still selling new 3DS consoles only three years ago and most consoles in circulation aren’t even a decade old.
@@plows2940 They are a company. They exist to produce money. These services aren't producing as much money anymore. Some are producing no money. Ergo, from the company's perspective, they have little reason to keep these services up.
I'll admit I don't really like this, but I'm just trying to keep in mind the nature of these companies. They may be run by decent people, but the conglomerate they sit atop still makes decisions for the good of the company.
The real scary part is that one day, this same conversation will be taking place for the switch
switch should have a browser app, ngl
Will happen in 7 years time
I mean hey, the wiimmfi equivalent always comes
Not sure about that, I'd probably say more around 12 years
My guess is sometime by the early 2030's.
For Pokémon players specifically this sucks. For now Pokémon bank will be available to use but even gamefreak is saying we should have our Pokémon in home sooner rather than later. Yet again there is going to be a huge chunk of Pokémon we will not be able to bring forward. New playthroughs of Pokémon XD will no longer be able to have Pokémon brought forward and so on. This really really sucks
Not to mention the PSS is officially done so no Wondertrading or GTS or any of that
There will also be a sorta Dexit with Gen 7 as many species were Bank only too, and can only be saved if players have breed those species in Gen 7. Gen 6 at least had all non-Mytchicals available by playthrough, but there is a problem of migrating from past gens. If Iwata did contribute to make Bank for preservation purposes then I understand it (although ironically shutting down servers is making it obsolete). But they should've kept transfer features built in-game like Gen 4 and 5. There apparently fanmade versions of Bank available though but I wonder if they would be read as legit by the games.
Well shit, I oughta get those GameCube Games and play through them before it's too late
It is very disappointing. I enjoy playing the old pokemon games and bringing those teams up to the switch. I hope pokemon company understands that and can keep it alive forever
@@aneasherreracomedy likewise, though I won't hold my breath
Everyone please spread the word about Pretendo Network please, its like 90% complete
I second this! 👍
I third this! 👍
I fourth this! 👍
I agree.
Same here
The shutting down of internet on the one side feels like “fans now have to pick up the slack that Nintendo left behind”, whilst the other side of the argument being “Nintendo is just managing their server budget so that little is wasted”
But my main concern is Pokemon
Instead of providing an in-game post-game transfer system for free, they decided to have it part of a paid service that is dependent on an existing internet connection, and it doesn’t look like they are even considering of any type of compromised method to get Pokemon from gen 5-7 onto Pokemon Home
It’ll be the first time since the transition to the Gameboy Advance that we won’t be able to bring past generations to current games. The ability to bring the old forward has long been a big draw to many collectors and competitive players so this is not a small thing in the case of Pokemon. Especially considering Gamefreak has always intentionally put rare or exclusive Pokemon in specific games to encourage trading. Like you mentioned - by offering no new alternative they are effectively disconnecting players from 20 years worth of their games, something they’ve always worked to circumvent. The in-game transfer system should be an unlockable in every Pokemon game.
Losing Mario Maker is huge. The totality of creativity of millions of players, good or bad, is a piece of gaming history and deserves preservation.
That's really true, I hadn't even thought about Mario Maker, that's so sad... I hope there's _some_ way people can still save and archive these, although I know it's a LOT of levels, but still ^^' It's really, really sad.
All the levels should be transfered to mario maker 2 instead
Reminds me of little big planet in that way
MM was already archived a long time ago
@@Fanboy-hf1iu Are they playable without the MM servers though?
I think a big thing you didn’t touch on is Pokémon bank. I believe they said it won’t go offline with everything else, but it probably will in the future, essentially cutting off the ability to transfer Pokémon up from gen 3-7 (plus the virtual console games of gens 1 and 2)
So basically gen 2-7 get completely disconnected from gen 8-9 (not gen 1 cuz of let's go)
well there is legends and BDSP for gen 4@@mariotheundying
@@curebirth1712honestly I think we already have a majority of the 1000 Pokémon on the switch now
And of course new Pokémon games ,dlc , and remakes will still happen
Besides go still exist
Not every Pokemon got brought back in gen 9 and the dlc plus there is the appeal of bringing over your old generation pokemon to the newest game.
I been playing Pokemon Black and Crystal on and off but I wonder if I should transfer my extra Pokemon to Home? Which I don't have a subscription to and the same goes to online.
I really like shiny breeding in VC GSC, and if bank goes down, all of my babies will be stuck in Gen 2. I bred a shiny girafarig in VC Gold to evolve into my shiny farigiraf, but that sort of stunt will go under. :(
To your point about it being a small amount of people, I also think that if you’re dedicated enough to be playing 3DS/Wii U online today, you’re probably dedicated enough to use the fan modded net code that will inevitably arrive like the Wii currently has. I hope this ends up actually resulting in a resurgence of online play and that we get a cool fan made service out of it.
2:17 this was put in because earlier this year vulnerabilties were found in MK8 and Splatoon 1, which brought their online services down for a hot sec. They brought these back, but basically said 'you got lucky this time, we arent fixing it again.' They put that line in to basically cover themselves in case this happens again
I bought a switch in 2018 but had my apartment broken into and my switch stolen. it was pretty devastating as I haven't even had it for a month and I decided to wait until a next gen version of the switch is available. it is now been 6 years of the consoles life and people are still waiting for the next revision. through out those years of waiting the 3DS became my main Nintendo console. I put so much love and time into these games and to seem them be completely discontinued is disheartening.
I honestly prefer the 3DS. I have a switch, but i opt to use my DS instead because i just find it to be more comfy.
I actually had a similar experience as you with pokemon diamond and pearl. I bought diamond in like, 2019, but I just really felt like it needed a remake, and opted to play the remake when that came out instead. But BDSP turned out to be demakes, so now im just in weird limbo with those games. Theyre the only pokemon games I haven't really touched yet. And its odd because i dread playing either version.
The joy I get from turning on my 3DS and seeing one of the several menu themes it shuffles through is something the Switch STILL cannot replicate. This and many other things make the 3DS more comfy to this day.
I kind of want to start a DS club thing at a local librarby, and I think it would be really cool to set up a Raspberry Pi to provide silly little experiences for DS/3DS users. One of these would be a StreetPass Mii exclusive to the club. The Mii would have something different about it each time, such as shirt color or hat, and would also have a single random puzzle piece for every individual StreetPass tag. This way, on the *next* session of the club, everyone has a different puzzle piece and they tag each other and get a bunch of them. I also think it would be really cool to do Pokémon giveaways/battles against a custom AI and stuff like that. The shutdown of the online services might be a good thing for this specifically, because it means I don’t have to worry about enabling people to cheat in online games with my custom experiences.
That would be sick! That’s the kind of thing that does make me a little sad to not live close to a decently sized city, but ah well
@@trevorspackman5279 The two hardest things about this would be 1. getting people to come, and 2. actually writing the software, because unfortunately I don’t actually have all of the necessary background knowledge to understand how StreetPass actually works well enough to implement it myself.
Aww, that would cool, my god, I love that! ^^ I WISH I had something like that bear me! Hey, maybe there is something similar, I should check!
That's a really cool idea, and I hope you find lots of peeps to join! ^^
Sadly, though, Nintendo would probably send you a cease and desist if you managed to pull this off.
I think for me, the main issue I take with this plan is the fact it’s so soon after the eShop shutdown.
As you said it makes sense, but it also makes it seem extra harsh that they’ve only given it a year after that happened.
I mean imagine if you bought a game back in March, just before the shop closed, and it either utilises or is dependent on online functionality.
At best, somebody who did that now only has that year to actively use the game, as well as any other games that are in a similar boat.
They also reassured everybody that even though the eShop was being retired, online functionality would not be going away anytime soon and would remain “for the foreseeable future”.
And to me, personally, it doesn’t seem reasonable to consider exactly a year as the definition of “the foreseeable future”, although that’s really just my own opinion :T
(Also sorry for writing a frickin novel, I’m really bad at keeping stuff short ._.)
There's also modding your Wii U or 3DS so you play in fanhosted servers, tho in that case you prob could've gotten a rom of a game to play it for free in your console
Agreed. I thought they would've waited until like late 2024 or even sometime in 2025 to do this. April 2024 seems too soon.
I am in this situation, I haven't had that much time to play any game at all these 2 years
Be it from NES to the Switch thanks to overtime at work since my workplace been trying to recover losses from the pandemic.
And now Nintendo is telling me that I have less than a year to play online for all the WiiU games that I just bought!?
Foreseeable future huh?
I feel scammed.
As someone who works in IT, in regards to Nintendos statement about "If something happens we'll just turn it off earlier" I take that as less of a "If someone hacks/DDOSes the network" and more "If the ancient server hardware we're running this stuff on fails."
11:15 Yes I did!😁
My trick: I travelled a lot in 2016 and I would go almost weekly to a 'nintendo zone' near a big train station where I had to wait anyways.
At a Nintendo Zone, you could 'save' your miis to the cloud (or something like that) and anyone that came after you to that Nintendo Zone, would meet you. It was so cool and very useful. I even met Miyamoto that way! Yes. THE Miyamoto. Including gold pants.
I do remember hearing about people who travelled a lot, especially to Nintendo events, being able to finish the puzzles. I even saw a few that were randomly collected by my 3DS
At least Pokemon Bank will still be up for a little bit, but even that is not enough. They need to stop tying transferring your pokemon to online. From gens 3 to 5, transferring pokemon was just a built-in feature of the game. Now it's a subscription service that will eventually die. It's depressing. And it means that in the future anyone who plays the old games will be screwed out of transferring their mons. And those games aren't even playable on modern hardware.
I just barely got my hands on a copy of Heartgold T_T There's seriously so many games I missed out on when I was young and broke and now they have a time limit!
I also recently got Black 2. It made me so sad that there was no longer any C-Gear and Dreamworld functionality. I was a preteen when BW came out and it was my favorite, I played Black through so many times and I loved all the minigames in the dream world and customizing my C-Gear. It felt so magical and futuristic at the time and added a lot to the game! And you can't do it anymore.
I still have good memories of matching with random people to trade with in Pokemon Platinum, like using the little emoticons to indicate if you liked the other person's offer or not, and helping strangers with trade evolutions. Online trading in Pokemon is just garbage nowadays. Sigh.
I still have friends who play their 3DS, and the fact their systems are going to be next to useless now is a massive slap to the face. Props to the homebrew scene for single-handedly keeping the Wii U and 3DS alive in spite of every attempt from Nintendo to stop them. Modders and emulation continue to be the savior of preservation.
The year is 2029. The switch online service has been shut down. The cycle continues
This is the first time that I'll really experience the whole "Online shutting down" thing. Yeah, I get it now, this stinks.
Yeah, this is why I keep a Gamecube around and actually use it. Because it has physical media and is offline, so Nintendo can never shut me down.
And the games hold up, even visually they look fine provided you adjust the screen settings to taste (Edge enhancements/sharpening may be something to fiddle with, 480i is what it's made for)
Arlo capturing the true villain vibe with the thumbnail of the Junkyard magnet from The Brave Little Toaster
*_(Ooouuuooo)_*
_I worked for generations_
*_(Ooo oooo)_*
_Who would believe they would love me and leave_
_In the name of "a few more sweet yen"?_
_Right before cancellation_
_I let the kids get some kicks, everyone was so happy_
_'til Daddy N came and said:_
*_You're worthless_*
Rest in peace, 3DS Online
Nintendo: Why do people emulate our games and hack their consoles?
Everyone: It’s because you keep making dumb decisions.
Be honest tho, given the opportunity, people would still hack and emulate jf it means they get stuff for free
StreetPass and really any ad-hoc networking feature is always so cool. It's like "what if you needed to touch grass at least a little bit to use the internet."
I always feel like the shutdown of support on a Nintendo console is like an invitation to the modding community. If you never felt safe modding before, now is your chance.
This adds stuff Nintendo doesn't want you to enjoy, like GBA on 3DS and GameCube on Wii U.
My first thought went out to Animal Crossing; New Leaf- the community is still very lively there, and I've been working and saving dream codes for so long that it's sad to think it will probably be a feature gone entirely.
Massive kudos for referencing Brave Little Toaster
Probably the thing that bums me out the most is Pokemon Bank eventually being taken offline. I know that it's still going to stay up, but the Pokemon company is clearly signaling it's going to be taken down in the future.
Meaning that you won't be able to transfer any Pokemon from Gen 3-7 and virtual consoles games to the newer games. The Pokemon games commitment to bringing any Pokemon you caught to any generation is super impressive. I mean what other video game let's you use a character you trained twenty years ago, and still use it currently.
I don't know if this is technically possible but I would love if Gamefreak made a peripheral that let's you put a Gameboy/GBA/DS/3DS cartridge and then let's you transfer your Pokemon to Pokemon Home. Basically having a local way to transfer your Pokemon.
I guess this is it for Friend Safari. There are still quite a few people exchanging Friend Codes to catch hard to find Pokémon in XY. For those trying to find Hidden Abilities or simply “catch ‘em all,” XY is surprisingly good for that.
I'm pretty sure there have been fan-run servers for Mario Kart Wii for years now, so yeah it's totally possible for the community to keep these services alive. I don't know if it'd be possible to back up the entire Mario Maker catalog though
Oh it's much bigger than that, system wide. And for the Wii U and 3ds have those in development
The thing you're talking about is Wiimmfi. It's systemwide, and works on both the DS and Wii. Pretendo is around 90% complete for both the 3DS and the Wii U so I don't think there's any reason to worry as of yet.
Stuff like this and what happened with the Eshop is why physical media should never go away.
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I 100% agree. I've been a advocate for physical games since I started playing and even when digital became more convenient. Thing is you don't own that digital game, just the license to play it. If I can't hold it in my hands and see it with my own eyes then I don't own it and neither does anyone else. Let digital be an option but not a permanent one
I'd say that this is far worse than the eShop thing. The eShop closing just means it's slightly more inconvenient to obtain them, but they're all free now. This shutting down means we'll never be able to play some of these online ever again, and even when fan servers pop back up they will never be populated like the normal servers are.
Yeah the number of people willing to mod to keep playing Mario Kart 7 or Splatoon 1 or what have you is a small fraction of an already small playerbase. Pretendo will be great for being able to play with friends, but searching for a random match will be a lot slower at best.
@@aneasteregg8171 it's always fun when I join a group of players on Wiimmfi, but it's always coordinated through Discord. The only game you can always play without fail is Mario Kart Wii, but that's definitely an outlayer when it comes to private servers.
Score chasers are effectively neutered without online functionality, leaderboards give you milestones to aim for. Some collections like Pac-Man Museum don't even store high scores offline for Pac-Man or Super Pac, the only way to track your progress is with the leaderboards.
I still play Mario Maker, Splatoon, and sometime Mario Kart 8 when I don't have the NSO subscription! So, the fact that they are removing these games from their servers is endlessly frustrating.
Rest in Piece, 3DS and Wii U online services.
Well with the Wii, it's farily easy to use unofficial servers and in fact on original wiis you can get onto custom servers without modding your system so I think that the same will happen with these systems
I actually did get all the puzzle pieces (bonus of regularly attending pax during the 3DS' heyday.) I'm gonna have to start carrying mine around just so people can get a shot at them!
There really should have been more distance between the E-Shop going down and online features going down. People who directly paid Nintendo for a game right before the E-Shop closed will now be losing all online features for what they paid for new digitally only A YEAR later.
Here's hoping people can make private servers or something like the kinda people that manage to keep old MMOs alive.
Pretendo:
@@giganticmoon Exactly. Very happy to hear that. Hadn't gotten that far in the vid yet lol
@@ratchetmechani2002 Heh, whenever people get scared that an online service is shutting down, I know there’ll be some wimmifi to come back
@@giganticmoon Yeah. It's still sad to think about official support dropping, but I'm glad there's communities at work to bring these kinda services back. Take the War for Cybertron and Fall of Cybertron games. Delisted, servers shutdown, now brought back on both PC and console by fans.
The Monster Hunter community has gone to great lengths to make sure every single Monster Hunter game is playable online in some way, all the way back to the original on PS2. I imagine the same will be done for the 3DS titles too, especially 4 Ultimate which is widely regarded as the best game in the series.
This question needs to be asked:
What’s gonna happen to the switch online servers when they get shut down, moreover any type of game servers online that will be just become lost contact, and it’s scary when you think about the amount of things that are digital now, you’re getting less functions of a game, if everything is online.
I felt that I needed to say that, because this Will affect preservation, to a disturbingly controlled level.
I miss my 3DS every day. They should bring it back in the future.
Nostalgia.
I mean as in a console similar to the 3DS.
Maybe they’ll bring back those games for the nitendo switch 2 the same way they keep bringing back old games on the switch
Yeah, like a a Black Friday New 3DS again pack full of a select of 50 selected Nintendo best 3DS games. Maybe 10 or 15.
@@WhyfallinLUVwhenUcanfallasleep No I don't think so because Kirby Triple Deluxe, Kirby Planet Robobot, and Tomodachi Life need to come to the Switch and not on the freakin Switch 2! Because that's not gonna happen and their not gonna be in that new freakin console!
I don't believe it...
My footage was used in an Arlo video!!
I actually have all the StreetPass Puzzle pieces. I should get that on my recording 3DS at some point, shishishi.
My hope is that the fans who are already working on things like Pretendo can keep doing that. If there's no alternative to get this content back (and some games have a good amount of content behind online play), then Ninty seeking legal against it is kinda bull in my eyes. Probably legally fine, but will definitely sour many going forward.
My main worry to come from this now is: What about the future? 3DS and WiiU are where Ninty really started doing online stuff, and Switch has carried that greatly. What about the Switch, its successor, its successor's successor? This isn't a Ninty-unique problem either, all the other consoles have this issue. I just hope we can find a good solution so we don't have to fret about this at the end/beginning of every new console cycle.
I’m gonna be sad when the ability to trade pokemon online will, once again, be totally gone. Wonder Trade was a great amount of the time I dumped into X/Y
In the era of online, it makes me sad that games like Super Mario Maker will barely have any content after online play ends.
LittleBigPlanet 1 and 2 fandom: "First time?"
I mean... "barely having any content" isn't a problem for Super Mario Maker. You'd still be able to make your own stuff after servers shut down.
@@Gamma0_0 Yeah, but considering that level uploading ended in March 2021, Mario Maker Wii U will basically just be an HD version of Mario Maker 3DS with levels only being available to play locally.
@@Gamma0_0 yeah make your own levels to play your own levels and also discover your own secrets! That sounds fun
@@Gamma0_0 You really wanna play your own levels over and over? Pretty much defeats the purpose.
I am going to miss 3DS and Wii U online. I remember posting Super Mario Maker 1 levels online at like 12 and 13, and getting Spotpassed at Best Buy and Home Depot.
I am going to play Mario Kart 7 online as much as I can now. And I hope LMDM Scarescraper isnt one of the things thats going to go if not being able to get new puzzle swaps isnt bad enough because I still have Puzzle Swaps I really want to get. This means that Play Coins will mean NOTHING after April
I still bring my 3DS and 3DS XL everywhere I go and I still do play the Wii U
I was not expecting the junkyard magnet from the Brave Little Toaster to be in an Arlo thumbnail.
Fact is, the vast majority of games these days have an online gameplay component. And like Arlo pointed out, some of these games are almost entirely online-focused (like the Splatoon games). If you remove access to that component, you're removing access to something that your customers paid for when they bought those games. To say that that's not cool is putting it mildly. It should be illegal in my opinion. In an ideal world, we would have laws stating that companies must issue a full refund if they remove access to any portion of a game's gameplay functionality after it has been purchased.
But that's ridiculous! Why would any company ever create an online component for a game if they know they're going to be required to support it in perpetuity? Well, that would be their problem. They SHOULD have the integrity to support online functionality in perpetuity, so it's sad that that support would have to be forced. And if this were to result in fewer online-focused games hitting the market, so much the better. I don't know about anyone else, but I wouldn't lose any sleep over some predatory live service projects being cancelled.
A big one that lack of online affects (Even tho it's already dead and is unrelated to the system-wide online cut) is Bravely Default and Bravely Second. Those two games have a whoke sidemode that are basically unplayable without their online servers, and I really hope someone at some point makes a new server for them (Particularly Second since thats the one I havent played yet).
Sad to see that same thing is gonna happen to the vast majority of the 3DS and Wii U libraries as well in not too long.
No more mario kart 7 online is my new joker arc
Mario Maker 2 getting a database update that would add all of the mario maker levels ported over would be great
RIP Splatoon 1. I know most players moved to 2 or 3 long ago but for the dedicated 1 players it's over
I feel like Nintendo could straight up release another 3DS model and it would still sell great. That system has so much lasting appeal.
Arlo really dredging up some childhood trauma with that Thumbnail... I CANT TAKE THIS KINDA PRESSURE
I'm only in college and every year i understand more and more why people say things like "it was better back in the day"
My fear is what about downloading updates for games? Just about every game has day 1/week 1/month 1 bug patches that we NEED forever. It makes me weary about even buying physical games. Like if I try to play a Switch game 20 years from now, will I just have to play it with all its glitches?
Anyways, great video as always. Great point about Mario Maker's user-made content being lost too. That's sad when you think about it.
Nintendo: Why does everyone hack our systems and emulate our games?
Everyone: THIS IS THE REASON WHY!!!!
But hacking and emulating existed way before this. Its a reason, but its not the reason
Even though I never really did much online stuff on WiiU other than Splatoon, it's still a real bummer to hear that there's not going to be anymore online services/connections/support for two of my favorite consoles. It may have been inevitable, especially after they closed the E-Shop, but it's still pretty sad to hear that that day is finally coming.
P.S. Just FYI, 9 billion/125,000 = 72,000
Biggest loss personally is Mario Maker. There's a pretty big community of people all trying to make sure that EVERY existing level gets cleared. It's going to be a close call by that point. Also... yeah it's just kinda sad to lose all those levels people made.
Also: the puzzle piece thing is sad. I thought it would just be the free spotpass pieces that would be gone, not ALL pieces from anyone. I am missing like... 2 pieces. Guess I gotta hope to get them in time. (though I think they're normal pieces, so I could probably get them through spending coins)
I'm not sure where he got the idea that you wouldn't be able to get puzzle pieces from anyone. That only uses StreetPass, so getting pieces from others should be safe.
While I'm not completely sure what the missing spotpass pieces refer to, I believe it just means if you never open StreetPass Mii Plaza and have the game download the puzzles that weren't in 1.0, you won't be able to receive them, but if you've EVER opened StreetPass Mii Plaza, or *especially* Puzzle Swap, you should be fine.
@@thesuperMasterSword That's what I initially thought too, thanks for clarifying. Those update ones are for new puzzles that are released, so yeah of course the spotpass ones wouldn't work.
My initial thought when he mentioned it for ALL puzzles was that streetpass will connect you to the player, but perhaps spotpass was how the actual pieces are stored, so when you streetpass them it'd connect online and check what pieces they had, but that wouldn't make sense since puzzle pieces still work offline.
The Puzzle Pieces should still work after the shutdown. As long as it's updated. They use to randomly send out spotpass piece when they introduced a new puzzle. I think that's what they were referring to. I steetpass my secondary 3DS everyday and It can get pieces for puzzles it doesn't have. From my understanding the Blue Pieces can be bought at random with coins or streetpassed. While pink ones you can only get through a streetpass. The random spotpass was for one of the pink pieces per puzzle. You should still be able to get them off someone that already has them.
I was thinking the same thing. Or hoping anyway
As if getting eshop support cut was bad enough, this is the true final nail in the coffin
p r e t e n d o
Love the Brave Little Toaster thumbnail! Those movies were my childhood.
Honestly, stuff like this just makes me wish, especially as someone who never really got to experience this stuff in its heyday, that Nintendo themselves would implement features like this into the Switch or its successor. They seemed to be popular features, so why not bring them back in a new and possibly better form? On a sidenote, I'm glad LM2 is getting ported, if only because I really want to try that games online. Hopefully I can say the same for games like Kid Icarus Uprising as well someday.
Like the switch two, give it a 3ds port. Or give it an extra add on like what the game cube has
I'm fully expecting private servers for some of the biggest games that'll be effected by this. Kinda like how you can change the ip or something to play Mariokart Wii online with a private server.
Main worry I have is they said about eventually even discontinuing pokémon bank which is like SOOO bad, it's the main way we've kept older games (outside of literally just gen 1/2 physicals) from being able to officially transfer their pokemon to the newer games, if that gets shutdown then it's like we wouldn't be able to bring over any new ones as there's no physical compatibility, the only way is to use pokemon bank.
2:21 actually, for quite a good portion of 2023, Nintendo had shut down the online services for (at least some, if not all of) their Wii U games. It's highly speculated this was due to a security vulnerability that they took a long time to getting around to fixing. So I believe this message is more in case some other new vulnerability or something else pops up, they're basically saying they're not going to bother trying to fix/patch things again.
I will miss the feeling of getting a new puzzle piece from Street Pass
Doesn't Street Pass still work?
wait does that mean INCLUDING pokemon bank and transporter? but that means that migrating pokemon is gonna be impossible for the first time since gen 2 to 3...
welp, we have till april 2024... and so does Pokemon company if they want to salvage ANY goodwill by providing an alternative means of transferring between gens 5-9, even if that means simply re-releasing them all with built in online features.
Rip 3ds and Wii U, the greats of my pre-teen years
I see your Brave Little Toaster reference in the thumbnail and you have brought despair to my day
This really suck for me as a shiny hunter in Pokemon. I use USUM to shiny hunt legendaries since that's the easiest IMO. I've been taking my time getting the legendaries since there was no rush, and in the meantime I've been shiny hunting other Pokemon in other games. Now I feel like I'm on a timer to get the legenends I want. I know I've had like 6 years to do it but still.
I just started playing pokemon x on it 😢.
To be honest, I was surprised when i went back and played monster hunter 4 last year and people were still playing online. Like alot of the series a good chunk of post story hunts cant be done without help so it will definitely hurt what some people consider to be the best in the series.
Street pass was fun for me, especially when I played Tomadochi life. I had a really big variety from people all over cause I would bring my N3ds to work and I worked at a souvenir shop.
Street pass was amazing
🙋🏻♂️ I finished all the StreetPass puzzles. I was obsessed with them. I used the StreetPass relay at McDonald’s and other places all the time to get anything I was missing. Once I even got recognized for it. Someone heard what my name was and asked if I had been into StreetPass because they tagged a Mii with my name every time they visited any of the local McDonald’s. Yep, that was me (Mii?). 😅
Not that this would ever happen, on a business standpoint it would probably wouldn't be beneficial outside of providing outstanding customer service with longtime customers, but imagine a scenario in which Nintendo creates a new update for older hardware that links the Switch/Switch Pro Online service with consoles of the past, and you have the option to pay a little more monthly if you want to utilize older hardware to play online games.
It is really too soon... But also they really really should have given us more time lol. There are many online coop games that I was planning to play with my friends and suddenly we are scrambling to see what we want to play in the final six months.
I really wish these companies would enable options for third party servers and provide tools to people to do that. Just something small, toss it out in the wild and let the fans do as they will. What does Nintendo care at that point? It wouldn't cost them a thing at least.
3DS was still getting new Nintendo-related games only like 5 years ago. Plus, there are tons of people who still play Pokemon or Mario Maker 1 or other various games with online functionality. This is definitely too soon.
What worries me is the possibility that re-downloading games we own won't be possible anymore...
You can still do that for the Wii and DSi so that should be able to be done for years to come.
It's the nintendo way of "new things out, torch all the old stuff"
Yes there is a big difference between mario maker 1 and 2. The mystery mushrooms with amiibos and alot of people made a bunch of levels involving them and alot of people including me was very disappointed when they didn’t came back in mario maker 2 which is why I rarely touch my copy anymore.
I play 1 because the online is free and 100 Mario Challenge. The endless challenge in 2 is kinda lame in my opinion because there is no definitive goal. Creating levels in 1 is also much easier because you have a touch screen and stylus
OMG ... That Magnet used to give me nightmares... The Brave Little Toaster ... Nostalgia 🤣
So much for “the switch will not replace the 3DS” huge BS…..
“the brave little toaster’s junkyard” is on the thumbnail.
Rip WiI U and 3DS this is the end of this 😢
NEW ARLO DROP
Boo Nintendo network going away.
Shout out to pretendo though
While I wasn't a wii u fan, the 3DS will always live on for my as one of my favorite things Nintendo ever did. The game library really should be saved for a potential switch 2 with how many gems it had. 3DS had a rough start but then once we got Mario Kart, Pokemon, and Smash, it was amazing until the switch came. It will be missed for me.
As someone who played streetpass plaza basically everyday since I got my 3ds, I did complete all puzzles (not region locked ones at least) a while back.
For me personally, every new development with 3ds shutdown feels bad. I know it hasn’t been in the limelight for a good many years, but the dual screen Nintendo systems were truly something unique to every other game console. Switch is great and all, but there’s something kind of special about these old handhelds. Many of my all-time favorite games were made for these systems. Call it nostalgia, but I really feel sad seeing the end.
Well with the servers being shut down, that means the netcode won't be updated anymore . . . so on the upside they'd be easier to rebuild for local matches and tournaments, but on the downside any server reliant game will effectively be lost unless someone datamined the source code before the shutdown.
I think I know exactly what Nintendo is doing here. They're trying to shut all this stuff down because they really wanna do a bunch of 3DS rereleases and remasters on Switch. They've already shown their hand by remastering a funky game like Luigi's Mansion Dark Moon. They want it to be as expensive and inconvenient as possible to access their old content so they can resell it to you.
No, they simply don't think, it's worth it to support the 3DS and WiiU anymore
This would've happened regardless of any Remasters
I get your thought process, but personally, I haven’t played my 3DS in years because I simply hate how it feels in my hands, so I would buy a lot of remakes if they ever came (shinier graphics, ideally smoother gameplay and framerate etc.). I bet there’s quite a few people who feel the same.
Bit sad to me, the 3ds was the first console i was able to get online with.
Kinda saw it coming though, when i booted up a new 2ds i bought it did just make me feel sad with how all the old features have faded away and the fact it just reminds me of my lonely youth when it all used to excite me
I kind of anticipated this. It is certainly another reason to mod you 3DS and Wii U consoles for that pretendo network. As long as I can still play things like Splatoon and Smash Bros online, I'm happy. Hopefully there's some way to keep those Mario Maker levels up, although I kind of doubt it unless some insider at Nintendo were to share where those levels are stored or something
Only thing I fear is once they do shut the servers down, they might try and release another update for both systems to try and crack down on modding more, just like shortly after eshop was killed
That Brave Little Toaster reference in the thumbnail ☠️
Truly an end of an era
If Nintendo messes with pretendo (which I’m unfortunately almost SURE they will), it will just be so dumb. They’re only hurting their most supportive fans. I’m talking like they’ve already sent a cease and desist, because it’s almost a guarantee.
P2P servers and fan networks for dead servers is such a cool thing because you know the niche rounds of games that you’ll play will be filled with a lot of sentimental gaming. I haven’t been in one of these but I’ve played in dying servers before and it’s cathartic to run into the same usernames over and over again. You don’t even need to message but you’re essentially spending time with a friend over a shared hobby, or should I say lobby lmao.
thank you for blessing us with your content! i hope and pray you are recovering my man arlo!!
Spotpass is used in FE Awakening and Fates for so much. Not just online play, but also summoning teams, and getting bonus items. Shutting the online down takes off a huge chunk of those games' functionality. It's awful
The silver lining to this is that this basically confirms the next console is on the horizon.
0:59 "Bad traffic synonym" Oh how the mind ponders what series of events could've led Arlo to look up such information