I remember when Durant came out in Emerging Powers. I played that deck so much (albeit without the Weavile) that I had an excel spreadsheet for every matchup with how many turns you could win in with getting the first turn 4 mill. I had top decks like Eels, Truth, Magnezone/Yanmega, Lost Gengar, and ReshiBoar down to a science. Then I cried as the deck quickly became useless with the release of Mewtwo EX.
I only reply because I also played the hell out of Durant as well and it got me my only top cut at an event lol Durant came out in Noble Victories. Durant was actually fine after Mewtwo EX because of resistance+eviolite+special metal energy. Mewtwo needed two energy to do AT LEAST 10 damage to it, and if the opponent wasn't paying attention you could just catcher something else up. In fact, certain decklists even RAN Mewtwo just to dunk on its own popularity. What REALLY killed Durant was Darkrai EX, which is where I think EX's just started getting too crazy. Darkrai dealing 70 was a HUGE deal cause you needed to have either Eviolite or Special Metal at all times since Durant had 70HP, which of course didn't make a difference since Night Spear also did 30 to the bench. It was just too much damage to keep up with. Combined with the fact that Dark Patches made Dark decks just fast enough and every Darkrai deck was essentially Catcher-immune sealed the deal. ...and Heatmor I guess lol
@@Gatsbeau You right, I kept thinking it was EP Durant came out in, but it was NV, because that was the Eel set. Catcher was the important card I was thinking of from EP. I say Mewtwo because it made a lot of match ups harder because it speed the format up considerably. White/Green Tea decks, the ZekEels w/Mewtwo, DMT, and yes of course, Heatmor. But when you had decks shifting from set up and consistency to Drop Mewtwo with DCE and enough energy to power a small town, the deck quickly lost its power. Yes the Darkrai matchup was unplayable, but Mewtwo made the format unplayable for control decks and slower decks not named Sigilyph.
On the 190 (bravery) vs 200 (booster), the other big matchup I found was Charizard with vitality band. Them being able to take KOs with charm made a good matchup feel closer than it should have.
Great video. Been testing it on limitless tabletop. It's very dependant on what you get turn 1. Some games you'll get a mimikyu in the active, sada which you can't use and no pokemon, so you just lose. When it works it feels great, but it feels like the early non consistent first builds of roaring moon
I just started playing the tcg abit over a week ago and I started playing my version of this deck at about 400ish rating. Currently 1700 with 61% winrate. I have a different list I came up with than the ones in the video but I'm finding it very consistent. While the goal is to mill it really doesn't need to be turbo speed great tusk only. Alot of wins are just counting energy cards and bricking them with mimikyu. You can try to build 4 energy on great tusk on your bench to kill anything that stops mimikyu and you are pretty golden. I also run 4 penny because often times you can be in a situation where you have a great tusk with booster energy and dbl colorless that won't get ohko so you bounce between the 2 and keep milling/stalling
I've been wondering the same thing, especially since Artazon is in the deck. A lot of Ancient Box decks play UBs. But idk I guess T1 Tusk can attach DTE and then use Explorer to attack T1.
I won a casual match against an opponent using a similar deck with Great Tusk… I won with using Iono when we both had 3 cards left in our decks 😂 Just read the board, prize cards, and counter 🙃👍🏼
Mew ex puts it in the dirt with genome hacking. I use it with Charizard Ex deck and just load up mew once I see them play great tusk. Ancient booster doesn't help.
Not to mention, Tusk is so bulky that most decks will struggle to KO it with a single attack, at least in the first couple of turns. And something like Charizard just straight up can't OHKO it, if has any tool attached.
Commenting before watching: Not that I like Snorlax, but you gotta convince me, this isn't just boneless (i.e. worse) Snorlax. Edit: Boneless Snorlax, but fun
tl;dr Both decks rely on stalling to a degree, Snorlax does it better. James basically came to the conclusion that you need to stall your opponent's attacks to win, because otherwise you only get to mill 24 cards, before they take all of their prizes, which is not enough to fulfill the win condition of deckout. Snorlax stalls more reliably, the deckout just takes longer. So Snorlax effectively does the same thing slower, but more reliably. e.g. James said, Mill should have a good matchup against Charizard, Snorlax has a 79% win rate against Charizard, effectively unlosable for Snorlax, so what's the point?@@sounefo
It is not better or worse. It is a different deck. Snorlax is a passive deck, this deck is actually pretty aggressive and wants to move fast (most of the time). Snorlax struggles against Lost Box decks, while this deck destroys them. Both are really good into Charizard, but Snorlax is better against Lugia. And against one another, I would say it's a 50/50, depending on the Tusk player not staring with something like a radiant Greninja or a Pidgeot V.
I remember when Durant came out in Emerging Powers. I played that deck so much (albeit without the Weavile) that I had an excel spreadsheet for every matchup with how many turns you could win in with getting the first turn 4 mill. I had top decks like Eels, Truth, Magnezone/Yanmega, Lost Gengar, and ReshiBoar down to a science. Then I cried as the deck quickly became useless with the release of Mewtwo EX.
I only reply because I also played the hell out of Durant as well and it got me my only top cut at an event lol
Durant came out in Noble Victories.
Durant was actually fine after Mewtwo EX because of resistance+eviolite+special metal energy. Mewtwo needed two energy to do AT LEAST 10 damage to it, and if the opponent wasn't paying attention you could just catcher something else up. In fact, certain decklists even RAN Mewtwo just to dunk on its own popularity.
What REALLY killed Durant was Darkrai EX, which is where I think EX's just started getting too crazy. Darkrai dealing 70 was a HUGE deal cause you needed to have either Eviolite or Special Metal at all times since Durant had 70HP, which of course didn't make a difference since Night Spear also did 30 to the bench. It was just too much damage to keep up with. Combined with the fact that Dark Patches made Dark decks just fast enough and every Darkrai deck was essentially Catcher-immune sealed the deal.
...and Heatmor I guess lol
@@Gatsbeau You right, I kept thinking it was EP Durant came out in, but it was NV, because that was the Eel set. Catcher was the important card I was thinking of from EP.
I say Mewtwo because it made a lot of match ups harder because it speed the format up considerably. White/Green Tea decks, the ZekEels w/Mewtwo, DMT, and yes of course, Heatmor. But when you had decks shifting from set up and consistency to Drop Mewtwo with DCE and enough energy to power a small town, the deck quickly lost its power.
Yes the Darkrai matchup was unplayable, but Mewtwo made the format unplayable for control decks and slower decks not named Sigilyph.
On the 190 (bravery) vs 200 (booster), the other big matchup I found was Charizard with vitality band. Them being able to take KOs with charm made a good matchup feel closer than it should have.
Some of the best quality content out there. Keep it up James!
Nice video! Also, haven’t stopped by your channel recently, and was extremely surprised and happy to see the quality go way up!
Agreed, the editing on this went off
Awesome vid, James! Can't wait to play this deck and mill everything!!
Keep up the great work James! Great video!
Elephants are my little sister's favorite animal
Man your videos are goated like seriously you can't miss
im a huge believer in the tusk!! discard top 4 for life baby
Great video. Been testing it on limitless tabletop. It's very dependant on what you get turn 1. Some games you'll get a mimikyu in the active, sada which you can't use and no pokemon, so you just lose.
When it works it feels great, but it feels like the early non consistent first builds of roaring moon
Nice video like always ! Charizard with vitality band also do 190, if you dont play Vacuum it can be very dangerous
I hope this remains as the year's goofy stall/mill/control deck
2 different Eri pronunciations within 2 seconds got me trippin 10:04
Fun fact, you can play sadas vitality with no cards in deck! The requirement is attaching energy, then drawing cards (as a bonus)!
This deck stomps lost box really hard
I just started playing the tcg abit over a week ago and I started playing my version of this deck at about 400ish rating. Currently 1700 with 61% winrate. I have a different list I came up with than the ones in the video but I'm finding it very consistent. While the goal is to mill it really doesn't need to be turbo speed great tusk only. Alot of wins are just counting energy cards and bricking them with mimikyu. You can try to build 4 energy on great tusk on your bench to kill anything that stops mimikyu and you are pretty golden. I also run 4 penny because often times you can be in a situation where you have a great tusk with booster energy and dbl colorless that won't get ohko so you bounce between the 2 and keep milling/stalling
Best video for the best deck after rotation
Im gonna play this deck to our upcoming regionals here in the Philippines.
Amazing vid and vid quality learned a lot thanks. :)
When will you cook a new Gard ex deck? I really want to see if you'll try raging bolt ex with it.
I too feel this deck has potential
Great vid James
Is splitting the nest balls to a 2-2 nest/ UB line dumb? Do we not want to make sure we can get an energy in the discard t1 for sada?
I've been wondering the same thing, especially since Artazon is in the deck. A lot of Ancient Box decks play UBs. But idk I guess T1 Tusk can attach DTE and then use Explorer to attack T1.
What the ditto in the first deck for
I won a casual match against an opponent using a similar deck with Great Tusk… I won with using Iono when we both had 3 cards left in our decks 😂 Just read the board, prize cards, and counter 🙃👍🏼
What do you think the best is going into post rotation?
Can’t you only use pidgeot v’s ability once per turn?
dont think u need to draw cards to play the supporter so its fine
Loved the video! Do you pretend doing a lugia one?
I was playing gardevoir and I barely won against great Tusk.
Wugtrio is fun to play but ive got terrible luck with coinflips
Mew ex puts it in the dirt with genome hacking. I use it with Charizard Ex deck and just load up mew once I see them play great tusk. Ancient booster doesn't help.
Great video !
Maybe a chi yu ex could work
Would rather run Whiscash for greater mill potential.
This vid was sick
6 great tusks?
Bro why’d you quit twitch streaming
Bro come back
when temp forces comes out(tommorow :) )
you only mill 20 because your opponent taking 6th prizes wins games.
you mill before they attack for the first time(ideally)
Also most decks need set up and you can mill their key cards like rare candy
Not to mention, Tusk is so bulky that most decks will struggle to KO it with a single attack, at least in the first couple of turns. And something like Charizard just straight up can't OHKO it, if has any tool attached.
The genius
Commenting before watching: Not that I like Snorlax, but you gotta convince me, this isn't just boneless (i.e. worse) Snorlax.
Edit: Boneless Snorlax, but fun
how is this worse than snorlax? and even better, how is this worse than hornless snorlax?
tl;dr Both decks rely on stalling to a degree, Snorlax does it better.
James basically came to the conclusion that you need to stall your opponent's attacks to win, because otherwise you only get to mill 24 cards, before they take all of their prizes, which is not enough to fulfill the win condition of deckout. Snorlax stalls more reliably, the deckout just takes longer. So Snorlax effectively does the same thing slower, but more reliably.
e.g. James said, Mill should have a good matchup against Charizard, Snorlax has a 79% win rate against Charizard, effectively unlosable for Snorlax, so what's the point?@@sounefo
It is not better or worse. It is a different deck. Snorlax is a passive deck, this deck is actually pretty aggressive and wants to move fast (most of the time). Snorlax struggles against Lost Box decks, while this deck destroys them. Both are really good into Charizard, but Snorlax is better against Lugia. And against one another, I would say it's a 50/50, depending on the Tusk player not staring with something like a radiant Greninja or a Pidgeot V.
@@gabrielcastillo9745 I've been looking for a fun deck that can beat lost box so might have to try this
i cant get this deck to work. wugtrio was so so much better
milling should be banned it's so stupid
Why is it stupid?
@@CodeMasterMike it's really cheap
@@masonkline2644you can play only Charizard ex