There is a reason He really likes the Undertale game over But Kris's ((aliven't)) body was in the way, so he dropped it all in a dumpster after recking it with the car.
If I remember correctly, long before chapter 2 came out, Toby made a post of him in the fisher price car with a caption along the lines of “The last thing you see before you die.” And everyone was so confused.
Even better if you had lower than 10 HP going into the fight, meaning Susie and Lancer probably fed Kris and Ralsei's unconsious bodies Lancer cookies or something
@Abdurazaq Omotunde I thought of one weird possibility there where Kris could still be the Knight. The game (Gaster, supposedly) asks if _you, the player_ will persist. And refusing causes the Roaring. Maybe the Roaring doesn't happen because Kris can't stop it, but because the player/the soul isn't there to stop _them._ But that's just a theory. *_A GAME-_* But seriously, I don't think this is the case, but it just kinda came to mind.
When I most recently played through Chapter 1 i died to the rush right before the jail scene in the castle. The tense, panicky scene cuts out to instant darkness, and when I tell Gaster I'm not willing to go on, the mournful piano melody kicks in. I had imagined that the Darkners were shocked by the fact that they had suddenly killed a Lightner, and Susie and Ralsei started mourning, since the three of them had just started to grow together as friends. The energy instantly gives way to mourning before the timeline they're in, now doomed, begins to fade from existence.
@@indie_gamer7 I was thinking more Horrortale showing how the world changed after a neutral ending Doesn’t have to be canon Can be a fan game like horrortale
@@krei-ations Mostly it would either be the monsters would give the soul to Asgore, a monster would absorve the soul, Toriel would cry and feel worse and become depressed, and if you die, say during Asgore or true lab monsters would become quite depressed to lose such a nice human that helped so many, Undyne would maybe become sad and Alphys might blame herself even more In a geno Undyne would be considered a Hero, but would die do to DT, sans would be considered a hero to the moster that lived, mostly people would be glad you're dead
i find it really interesting that (supposedly) gaster talks to you at the game over screens. Along with that it sounds like gaster is talking directly to the player (instead of Ralsei and Susie talking to Kris [Side note, Ralsei doesn't mention Kris so he could be talking to the player, or to player and Kris at the same time]) It's also interesting that this happens only in chapter 1 it's like the menu with gaster thing too
the chapter 2 game over is different, but if you choose to give up his text appears again, implying that he's still the one in control, just hiding in the background this time
I wonder why noelle doesn't say anything on a game over.. perhaps she's frozen like a deer in headlights again Or maybe toby forgot to add that? If it was the latter, i can imagine her saying something along the lines of" "Kris..? A- are you okay? C'mon, You- you have to get up!"
Anyone gonna mention how the guy we encounter while making the vessel (Who I assume to be Gaster since the text speed is the exact same) is the one who narrates the end of the world when you say "No/Give up" here or..?
The one where Toby kills you has Undertale's Game Over screen... only for him to run over his own creation. The dev really knows how to mess with you from inside the game.
What about the dialogue if you die to noelle’s prank? She says something like “Sorry, Kris! I didn’t mean that, I was just joking!” Maybe I dreamed that up, I’ll have to play it again and test it out, see if I’m crazy
I know I know I made a mistake but I just haven’t focused on the dialogue so much. At least the dialogue where Alphys and Toriel talk about them. I’ll fix it right now.
Okay. Why does Noelle not have any dialogue when Kris dies compared to Susie/Ralsei? Why does the game gives us some agency in this Game Over state (by stating if we want to continue or give up)? Ralsei clearly says that dying is not "[Kris'] fate". As if Kris did not have any choice in this matter. This would be echoing to what Susie/the weird narrator in chapter one's intro said, as nobody can choose who they are in this world. But, this game over screen gives us some agency by giving us the choice to give up. It even depicts the consequences of said choice, as the world is being covered in darkness. Also, the name of the track playing during the showing of those consequences is "Darkness Falls". It is a funny double-entendre as "falls" could be from the verb "to fall" or from the noun "falls" (Like Niagara Falls). As we couldn't seal the fountains, they eventually ended up overflowing, thus causing them to become falls. Ralsei does not want the fountains to become unstoppable falls. The main difference between a fountain and falls is that a fountain is man-made whereas a fall is natural and made-up of several waterfalls. This all ties to the notion of the Genesis flood narrative, where a great flood swept across Earth to get rid of those who were impure. Could we infer that the Roaring is Deltarune's allegory for the Genesis flood narrative? Why does Ralsei wants to stop it, then, since it would, in theory, purge those who are impure? Is the Roaring why Ralsei wants us to recruit everyone so that they can all be in [player's name] town? So that they can be saved from the flood that will eventually come crashing down? Is [player's name] town an ark? So, by this logic, does Kris, by refusing his fate, doomed the world by letting most people in a flood? Will we have a Mother 3-like ending? Reading through all that, I sound like a madman. Well, too bad for me, I guess.
Funny thing Is once I was playing deltarune and the soul spawned OUTSIDE the box and Lancer and Susie made me take damage for some reason And that's when I died for the first time
They don't kill Kris and Ralsei, but DOWN them. Side Note: I'd like to imagine while Kris and Ralsei were unconcious, they rebuilt the thrash machine and then took their unconcious bodies back to their SAVE point.
The fact that toby kills you with no context given is just funny
There is a reason
He really likes the Undertale game over
But Kris's ((aliven't)) body was in the way, so he dropped it all in a dumpster after recking it with the car.
If I remember correctly, long before chapter 2 came out, Toby made a post of him in the fisher price car with a caption along the lines of “The last thing you see before you die.” And everyone was so confused.
@@CaptainObliviousVgod that is literally such a toby thing to do
(also yeah, 3 months later sorry about that)
Since I'm a gaming pro, I've never seen the screen loosing to giga queen... SHE TEA BAGS THAT'S SO FUNNY AAAAAH
She's a true classic gamer
Despite her saying she only plays mobile games 😂 please 🙌
@@lyrics_m_sic isn't there a call of duty mobile game?
Me who made the duck and died 5 times until muscle memory kicked in: 😶
@@AbsolutelyAri1 the duck has the best ability tho i think ur just bad
Technically not a gameover state but it's worth noting that you get dialogue for losing against rouxls in the pirate ship battle in chapter 2
Ok but what’s the dialogue tho?
Don’t be shy
*tell us what the dialogue is*
@@angyboi7969
* It seemseth the Game hath been Overed!
* And lo! I haveth the moste Real Estate!
* CUT THE BATTLE!!!
@@bat2564 thank you
I accidentally got a tie on that game
TWICE!
Its a nice detail that Susie and Lancer dont actually kill you, just booting you back to the previous room with 10 HP.
Noelle: *Kris i remember you're snowgraves*
Even better if you had lower than 10 HP going into the fight, meaning Susie and Lancer probably fed Kris and Ralsei's unconsious bodies Lancer cookies or something
I lost against Giga Queen the first time around and I laughed so hard when she tea bagged. The sheer audacity is perfectly in character😂
2:18
Do you all realize that this is PROOF that the roaring will happen in the future if kris doesnt do anything?!?!
Of course, like Jevil said, the knight will keep making fountains until someone stops them.
@Abdurazaq Omotunde I thought of one weird possibility there where Kris could still be the Knight. The game (Gaster, supposedly) asks if _you, the player_ will persist. And refusing causes the Roaring. Maybe the Roaring doesn't happen because Kris can't stop it, but because the player/the soul isn't there to stop _them._ But that's just a theory. *_A GAME-_* But seriously, I don't think this is the case, but it just kinda came to mind.
"Ralsei is just completely bullshitting us" fans are shaking and crying right now
@jamez3673 my theory is it's inevitable and Kris knows that. Which is why he opened a fountain. TO strengthen them for the inevitable
Yeah, duh
imagine having the whole world be covered in darkness because some kid got run over by a dog in a kiddy car
Yeah.
And this is at a point when Susie doesnt know about the roaring so imagine her face
4:28 love how the Undertale game over screen was used in here
Kris: * freaking dies *
Susie: c'mon thats all you got?! Get up!
Kris: yessir yessir
Noelle: *Kris i remember you're snowgraves*
5:08 I’m sorry
Did Queen just…
TEA BAG YOU???
Yep
Yup. She does that
When I most recently played through Chapter 1 i died to the rush right before the jail scene in the castle. The tense, panicky scene cuts out to instant darkness, and when I tell Gaster I'm not willing to go on, the mournful piano melody kicks in.
I had imagined that the Darkners were shocked by the fact that they had suddenly killed a Lightner, and Susie and Ralsei started mourning, since the three of them had just started to grow together as friends. The energy instantly gives way to mourning before the timeline they're in, now doomed, begins to fade from existence.
I honestly wish there was something that could show us how things would turn out if Kris or Frisk died in different areas of their games
@@krei-ations We have a small glipse of what happens after toriel kills us, shock
@@indie_gamer7 I was thinking more
Horrortale showing how the world changed after a neutral ending
Doesn’t have to be canon
Can be a fan game like horrortale
@@krei-ations Mostly it would either be the monsters would give the soul to Asgore, a monster would absorve the soul, Toriel would cry and feel worse and become depressed, and if you die, say during Asgore or true lab monsters would become quite depressed to lose such a nice human that helped so many, Undyne would maybe become sad and Alphys might blame herself even more
In a geno Undyne would be considered a Hero, but would die do to DT, sans would be considered a hero to the moster that lived, mostly people would be glad you're dead
@@krei-ations multiple possibilities
i find it really interesting that (supposedly) gaster talks to you at the game over screens. Along with that it sounds like gaster is talking directly to the player (instead of Ralsei and Susie talking to Kris [Side note, Ralsei doesn't mention Kris so he could be talking to the player, or to player and Kris at the same time]) It's also interesting that this happens only in chapter 1 it's like the menu with gaster thing too
Nah it's actually ness from earthbound talking those things
A sprout mole. Gross.
the chapter 2 game over is different, but if you choose to give up his text appears again, implying that he's still the one in control, just hiding in the background this time
don’t forget that if you give up or don’t persist depending on your chapter the song darkness falls will play which starts with gasters theme
...Ralsei doesn't namedrop Kris. Alright, thanks Toby.
Lol
I wonder why noelle doesn't say anything on a game over.. perhaps she's frozen like a deer in headlights again
Or maybe toby forgot to add that?
If it was the latter, i can imagine her saying something along the lines of"
"Kris..? A- are you okay?
C'mon, You- you have to get up!"
"O-Oh, it... this is a prank... r-right?"
"Kris... y-you can get up now.... this isn't f-funny."
@@Zer0_Soul *"Kris.....?"*
@sona_the_persona "Get up you fat little cu-"
British Noelle real
hahaha......... "frozen"
I love how ralsei just melts when he dies
Cause he is from the dark world, That's so obvious.
honestly, it was nostalgic to hear determination in deltarune
When having a skill issue actually gives you content
I love that there's interesting stuff even when you can't get past a certain point without dying
I love how Giga Queen's fight and gameover are Super Punch-Out!! references.
5:07 bro did the peace sign
Chapter 2: You can do it! Try again
Chapter 1: thats cool didn't ask
Anyone gonna mention how the guy we encounter while making the vessel (Who I assume to be Gaster since the text speed is the exact same) is the one who narrates the end of the world when you say "No/Give up" here or..?
He also narrarates save file editing pre-finishing chapter 1.
The one where Toby kills you has Undertale's Game Over screen... only for him to run over his own creation. The dev really knows how to mess with you from inside the game.
05:16 I lost to Giga Queen so many times I think I saw this screen at least twenty times lol
i like how giga queen teabags after defeating us
Message to future self: 2:36
What about the dialogue if you die to noelle’s prank? She says something like “Sorry, Kris! I didn’t mean that, I was just joking!”
Maybe I dreamed that up, I’ll have to play it again and test it out, see if I’m crazy
Wait what
maybe you were talking about an animation where you die at Noelle's prank and she says things
@@Misha-100 yeah, I double checked, I got punked by my memory, it was just a fan animation lol
It was a fan made video
@@gollywog7430 then can you tell me who made it?
2:29 I love how Ralsei just watches Kris when they burn themself and doesn't notice anything before Kris died.
kris isnt a she
you mean "they"?
It's they.
I know I know I made a mistake but I just haven’t focused on the dialogue so much. At least the dialogue where Alphys and Toriel talk about them. I’ll fix it right now.
Queen plays halo confirmed
Ralsei's mentioning "you" in chapter 2. He's the only one who knows about key inputs, soul, etc. He can travel to other dark worlds... that scares me
Okay.
Why does Noelle not have any dialogue when Kris dies compared to Susie/Ralsei?
Why does the game gives us some agency in this Game Over state (by stating if we want to continue or give up)?
Ralsei clearly says that dying is not "[Kris'] fate". As if Kris did not have any choice in this matter. This would be echoing to what Susie/the weird narrator in chapter one's intro said, as nobody can choose who they are in this world.
But, this game over screen gives us some agency by giving us the choice to give up.
It even depicts the consequences of said choice, as the world is being covered in darkness.
Also, the name of the track playing during the showing of those consequences is "Darkness Falls".
It is a funny double-entendre as "falls" could be from the verb "to fall" or from the noun "falls" (Like Niagara Falls).
As we couldn't seal the fountains, they eventually ended up overflowing, thus causing them to become falls. Ralsei does not want the fountains to become unstoppable falls.
The main difference between a fountain and falls is that a fountain is man-made whereas a fall is natural and made-up of several waterfalls.
This all ties to the notion of the Genesis flood narrative, where a great flood swept across Earth to get rid of those who were impure.
Could we infer that the Roaring is Deltarune's allegory for the Genesis flood narrative?
Why does Ralsei wants to stop it, then, since it would, in theory, purge those who are impure?
Is the Roaring why Ralsei wants us to recruit everyone so that they can all be in [player's name] town? So that they can be saved from the flood that will eventually come crashing down? Is [player's name] town an ark?
So, by this logic, does Kris, by refusing his fate, doomed the world by letting most people in a flood?
Will we have a Mother 3-like ending?
Reading through all that, I sound like a madman.
Well, too bad for me, I guess.
You have a cool way of thinking, I like it)
christian deltarune lore
okay but seriously, this is interesting and while it doesn't seem like it'll happen, it's a very cool way of perceiving it
kris is not male nor female
Funny thing Is once I was playing deltarune and the soul spawned OUTSIDE the box and Lancer and Susie made me take damage for some reason
And that's when I died for the first time
I love it when people put obscure Easter eggs like the beginning segment of the video in their games
i like how queen was just teabagging
i love how noelle is just shocked when you died
love how she's does that teabag, that's so in her style
Wish Noelle would say something
4:30
This is such an iconic song.
The theme of undyne the undying and sans
@@MusuemBucket battle against a true hero and megalovania are memorable songs
BUT DETERMINATION IS ONE OF THE MOST MEMORABLE GAME OVER SONGS
How come you dont get a broken heart when Susie defeats you?
She doesn't actually wanna kill you, so I guess it's like when an enemy runs away.
Because she doesn't kill you
Actually if you give up you will be softlocked on black screen until you restart the game
I had no idea dialogue changed based on who was in the party wtf
are the chapter 1 gameover screens still the same now that chapter 2 is out?
Yes
these game over screens are really making me think that the song is from undertale lol
I'm not sure but I belive tasque manager has a death scene to
Im just stuck in the arcade game on chapter 2, plus im on mobile
did you beat it?
@@corn3539 I did some practice with the giga queen(since it has healing) and then i finally beat it today(on another save file)
fun fact the toby gameover screen isnt the deltaune one, its the one from undertale
Just realized in the fight of giga queen the Mecha has 4 parts
Legs = Ralsei
Arms = Susie
Armor = Kris
Head = player??
Ive never seen lancer and susie ones, theyre sooo funny😭
What if you retire in GIGA QUEEN fight?
I'm pretty sure it takes you back to the main menu.
"Then the world was covered in darkness" or most likely it counts as the give up option.
Nope, retiring on GIGA QUEEN fight It takes you back to the last save before the GIGA QUEEN fight
@Kirby lover 4:55
did the Queen just teabagged Kris at 5:08??
Bruh moment
4:28 is just funyy
Susie dialogue is the best
SHE T BAGING???!?!?!?
TP 0% = *TRACK LOST*
Where is retire for giga queen?
Susie and Lancer laugh at you for dying to them? Rude
They don't kill Kris and Ralsei, but DOWN them.
Side Note: I'd like to imagine while Kris and Ralsei were unconcious, they rebuilt the thrash machine and then took their unconcious bodies back to their SAVE point.
monsters can be downed but humans can't be downed
Actually Kris CAN be downed.
2:31
1:35