Hey The Warthog Project! Just wanted to say I received my upgrade kit today, and had it installed in about 15 minutes, thanks to your awesome tutorial! Thanks very much for this, it helped immensely.
Man I have to say.....your build is amazing and something I could only dream of. I absolutely enjoy watching these videos and seeing the effort and quality you are putting into it.
@@thewarthogproject So they're douchebags perpetually on the wrong side of every door here, and they're *violent* douchebags perpetually on the wrong side of every door there. Got it.
And here in South Wales too (The Original South Wales or as it is also known as 'Old south wales as opposed to our antipodean cousin's 'New South Wales!)
Sold my old Warthog few years ago...realised my mistake, just picked up a new one and first thing I did was order the Upgrade kit after watching your informative vid. Works great! Well happy.
I just installed this same kit after watching your Video I ordered one and after it shipped to America about 2 1/2 weeks lol snail mail. I did the Install just like your Video Perfect step by step Instructions. It was very easy and just like the Video all worked fine at the End of Calibration. Thank You
Just got my slew upgrade and really appreciated this tutorial. I wanted to emphasize that the calibration step is absolutely necessary which seemed counter intuitive to me (hobby game dev who has substantial experience programming for joystick devices). Out of the box, the new slew stick would send max/min values at a fraction of its travel (imagine the deflection you had on the stock TDC) and calibrating it fixes that. This upgrade feels amazing and I regret not doing this a lot sooner. I didn't even need this for the A-10C. The way the TGP works for that module I was OK just tuning the axis in DCS. BlackShark Skhval slew however was a different story. Even with axis tuning it was always either too fast or too slow at the extremes, inaccurate. or too sensitive around the center. After install the upgrade the A-10C was even more buttery smooth, and Ka-50 was massively improved. I'm actually able to fly at low speeds and slew onto targets at the same time. This means multiple Vihkr launches are possible in the same pass, or accurately gunning at multiple ground targets that are somewhat spread out without using boresight aiming.
I ordered one on Thursday last week and it was delivered today...just installed it following your video. Thanks so much for this and for introducing me to this AMAZING upgrade. Almost 2 years later, your video is still helping people discover and install the best thing to happen to the Warthog!
I upgraded mine a couple months ago and had the same trepidation about updating the throttle firmware as you did. Glad it worked out for you, too. Simply the best mod to the Warthog next to the free push-through AB detent mod.
I just ordered this and can't wait for it. tired of the "thinkpad nub" stock slew. Finally no more constantly fishing my sensor to get the exact spot I need on the target.
Thanks for the video. Got mine up and running. Removing the old sensor was the most challenging for me even though it should have been the easiest. Some of the internal wiring was very short and I could barely give myself enough space to remove and install the new sensor. Anyways, all good. Cheers
i happened across this video a couple of weeks after I purchased a Warthog and Throttle last year. It arrived with the switch you posted here about. Utilizing your video, I was able to switch out the standard and replace it with the new included one. THANKS
Thanks for posting this video, was a great help when doing the upgrade today. Actually found out about the upgrade from this video too. Makes a huge difference in the games
@@thewarthogproject I know the feeling dude. I have my first and she is about a year old now. When she gets the zoomies going on it drives me insane. But... She is never going on the sim room that’s for sure. Lol
Glad to see you like it so much, it really it a ton better than the default slew sensor and I really dont understand why TM decided to use such a crap component for this vital piece of control in the Warthog HOTAS. It is a shame that there were only so many force sensitive variants to go around for the DeltaSim Slew Mod, I have really been enjoying mine in these past months :)
I purchased this kit from Delta Sim Electronics and I have to say that the quality of the product I received is excellent, I believe they have changed the manufacturing process and now all those 3D-printed parts are high quality plastic, probably from an injection mould. This upgrade is a must.
In the old days when i didnt have the hotas yet I used to connect an old ps3 controller to use for slewing. I remember those where some pretty good slewing times
I struggled with this. Maybe I have fat fingers, but I couldn't seem to unclip the side I could reach. Terrified of breaking something, but I got it eventually. You made it look easy
I had toyed with getting one of these. I hated that switch and was using the ministick on my vkb stick.. The hog throttles good except for this . This mods a lot cheaper than buying a new virpil throttle :) You have convinced me . Time to upgrade :)
The main problem I have with the nipple is being able to click it without massively moving the TDC in the process. Hopefully this is much better, have ordered.
The original slew control is a small force transducer. It outputs an x/y signal. It's the same one used in the F-15C. (I've got grip-envy over how easy it is to get into that throttle grip for repair. The real thing is a pain in the ass - the A-10 grip is nearly identical to the F-15C.) Also, be nice to the cat. :D
My initial reaction was that it's expensive for a rewired analog stick but seeing that he went through the trouble of building a custom PCB with a microcontroller, nice sinter printed parts and included shipping in the price it's really good value. Guess I better look into updating my Hog's firmware first. That force sensing option is really tempting too!
@@thewarthogproject I wound up getting one around late December and man it's a massive upgrade over the one that comes in the Hog. Cheers from Malaysia!
Please people when you put the big screws back in turn them BACKWARDS with light inwards pressure until you feel a click this means the threads are lined up then screw them in. this avoids cutting a new thread and compromising the plastic housing.
Didn't know that you can map the Mav key to the left MFCD. :O And very good Video, I will save it as an tutorial for me in case I finally upgrade my Wartog Slew Sensor. Thank you very much.
you sir caused me to spend 3 weekends building an ejection seat and a home flight sim of the A-10 lol!!! mine only has the UFC, MFDs and the warthog throttle stick/rudder pedals that function but thats ok cause i fly with VR oculus rift s anyway but i love your sim man!!
U should post some action videos of you flying sorties! We’ve seen the gear let’s see it in a mission. Great, interesting content man! Very ingenious indeed. 🤘😎
First of all deeply impressed by your work. Second as an Aussie living out of the country I really love your humour and personality "That's what she said." Are you excited over the ED announcement regarding improvements to the A10C interface?
Nice upgrade mate. I haven't checked in for awhile but the sim's coming along nicely. I have my CNC mill running now so I'll be cutting panels for the Huey to finish the upper and lower consoles. Decided against DCS BIOS now and I'll just go with Arduino Leonardo's with my custom sketch for configuration to allow for multi helicopter setup.
I haven't done this mod yet, and I'm not sure this will help with the TMW throttle hardware, but for self-tapping screws in general, I always turn them counterclockwise (or anti-clockwise, for youse European folks) until I feel a small "click", and then I screw 'er in, so to speak. That is in the interest of not stripping the threads of the hole. At any rate, THANKS for making this vid. This mod has been on my shopping list for a couple months.
Great upgrade, great video ! If you want to make slew even smoother, you can increase dead zone and reduce Axis saturation (if you assigned it as axis in a first place), which kind of equals analog slew sensitivity. Slew is gonna be a bit slower (as you set it), but less jerky too. Can even try it with the bad old slew "nipple", before committing for an upgrade purchase. However, for me Windows own Controller calibration centers the nipple better, than Thrustmaster's calibration tool shown in the video to be honest. The latter always offsets the mini stick center a bit down for me.
The internal build of the Warthog is pretty dodgy because most users don’t strip their sticks... but nearly all joysticks wiring is crappy (Saitek stuff is abysmal). The number of pinched wires I’ve found in joysticks over the years is horrifying. When I stripped the Warthog Joystick to sand the flashing off the joystick ball I hated all the crappy wiring and tidied it all up before reassembling. I use old style lacing cord to manage the wires.
The only issue I had was that it was just still 8bit precision. Which is 256 points on an axis. Decided to make an arduino and a small usb hub PCB into the throttle. Works as a charm and on 16bits (−32,768 to 32,767 points) but this upgrade requires know how on soldering and a bit of programming to do.
To be honest I can't believe there is difference at all. The arm of the sensor joystick and its angular move range are so short that I doubt if increasing resolution of a sensor would change anything. Source: been there, done that with my DIY joystick, throttles and so on.
SWeeeet.😎👍👍 hmm or maybe sour 😢 Just showed the wife a few of your videos and then I PROBABLY made the mistake of showing her the plans etc, since I have a laser cutter I thought hmm. We also have a spare room...... I think mentioning all three in one conversation was the kicker. BOO HISS but I wants one!
Idk if your taking requests but a tutorial on how to bind toggle switches using lua because i cant seem to do it on the f16 it always greys out all my controls except keyboard
I gave up on LUA Editing a long time ago for the same reason! You should look into using Gadroc's Helios Software- I use it to run all the switches in my cockpit without having to change anything within DCS. And when i jump in a different aircraft all i need to do is click one button in helios and everything works! Have a look for a CaptZeen profile- i dont thin he has the F16 working yet but no doubt he will soon.
Took a couple of months to get to me, only because the first was lost in the post. The seller was fantastic, thankfully he took my word for it and shipped a replacement out with the next run. About 2 weeks after that it arrived in Australia. He uses normal post, no express options available internationally due to cost.
What faith. Reassembling before running a test.
No one talking about how this man got a master caution in game for an IRL switch wiring issue (18:09) this is peak gameplay
Hey The Warthog Project!
Just wanted to say I received my upgrade kit today, and had it installed in about 15 minutes, thanks to your awesome tutorial!
Thanks very much for this, it helped immensely.
Glad I could help!
I love how a video about replacing a switch is just as interesting as one about a whole panel!
Man I have to say.....your build is amazing and something I could only dream of. I absolutely enjoy watching these videos and seeing the effort and quality you are putting into it.
Thanks!
i did mine about 2 years ago, its a fantastic upgrade.
Cats are always on the wrong side of a door. Great video - thanks!! Just purchased mine ... June back in stock with 6 wks delivery est.
I see Aussie cats are no different than here in the States.
Domestic house cats are much more aggressive and violent down here as they have evolved to survive drop bear attacks.
@@thewarthogproject So they're douchebags perpetually on the wrong side of every door here, and they're *violent* douchebags perpetually on the wrong side of every door there. Got it.
@@thewarthogproject DROP BEARS!!!!!
And here in South Wales too (The Original South Wales or as it is also known as 'Old south wales as opposed to our antipodean cousin's 'New South Wales!)
Sold my old Warthog few years ago...realised my mistake, just picked up a new one and first thing I did was order the Upgrade kit after watching your informative vid. Works great! Well happy.
I just installed this same kit after watching your Video I ordered one and after it shipped to America about 2 1/2 weeks lol snail mail. I did the Install just like your Video Perfect step by step Instructions. It was very easy and just like the Video all worked fine at the End of Calibration. Thank You
Just got my slew upgrade and really appreciated this tutorial. I wanted to emphasize that the calibration step is absolutely necessary which seemed counter intuitive to me (hobby game dev who has substantial experience programming for joystick devices). Out of the box, the new slew stick would send max/min values at a fraction of its travel (imagine the deflection you had on the stock TDC) and calibrating it fixes that.
This upgrade feels amazing and I regret not doing this a lot sooner. I didn't even need this for the A-10C. The way the TGP works for that module I was OK just tuning the axis in DCS. BlackShark Skhval slew however was a different story. Even with axis tuning it was always either too fast or too slow at the extremes, inaccurate. or too sensitive around the center. After install the upgrade the A-10C was even more buttery smooth, and Ka-50 was massively improved. I'm actually able to fly at low speeds and slew onto targets at the same time. This means multiple Vihkr launches are possible in the same pass, or accurately gunning at multiple ground targets that are somewhat spread out without using boresight aiming.
I ordered one on Thursday last week and it was delivered today...just installed it following your video. Thanks so much for this and for introducing me to this AMAZING upgrade. Almost 2 years later, your video is still helping people discover and install the best thing to happen to the Warthog!
Cheers. Have fun!
Outstanding videos mate. Love the brief cat interjection. Keep up the good work!
Scott Bretland yep, good to cool off my brain after all that Information.
Typical cat, hates to be left out of anything!
I upgraded mine a couple months ago and had the same trepidation about updating the throttle firmware as you did. Glad it worked out for you, too. Simply the best mod to the Warthog next to the free push-through AB detent mod.
I wish the Hog needed an AB detent!
I just ordered this and can't wait for it. tired of the "thinkpad nub" stock slew. Finally no more constantly fishing my sensor to get the exact spot I need on the target.
Just followed your guide. Ten minutes. No drama. Thanks for posting :)
3:09 LOL :D how Aussie was that "That can get F*ed off"
I have been running this upgrade for near a year, always found it works well at far superior.
Thanks for the video. Got mine up and running. Removing the old sensor was the most challenging for me even though it should have been the easiest. Some of the internal wiring was very short and I could barely give myself enough space to remove and install the new sensor. Anyways, all good. Cheers
Stopping in to say thank you for this video. I got this and a pinky switch from these guys and knocked it out. So much better! Thank you
Mine was delivered today, I just installed it and it is amazing. What an incredible difference. It took a few weeks to arrive but well worth it.
Yes, this is a must have upgrade for the Warthog. So much better, before the upgrade I barely used the … mouse … nipple … thing.
I followed your instructions step by step and now I have a real slew and not a friggin nipple! Thank you!
#freethenipple
That’s a perfect name for it
Excellent video. If my college professors were as good as your "how to" instructions, I would have been further down the road...LOL
The only thing missing Is a phisical HUD
Cheers Mate! Just ordered a replacement.
Thanky you! I had a successful installation thanks to you! Loved raging at the cat moment too!
i happened across this video a couple of weeks after I purchased a Warthog and Throttle last year. It arrived with the switch you posted here about. Utilizing your video, I was able to switch out the standard and replace it with the new included one. THANKS
Thanks for posting this video, was a great help when doing the upgrade today. Actually found out about the upgrade from this video too. Makes a huge difference in the games
My throttle has the same slew button you had. I located the website with the upgraded button. As of now, this item is on backorder. Drats!
It took just over 2 weeks to get mine (Gold Coast - Queensland). Total was 52.99 GBP which ended up being AUS $97.60 on conversion. Well worth it.
Great video like always. But I really loved the yelling at the Cat! Priceless!
Haha glad you liked it mate. Unfortunately the cat is no longer with us, but this memory of how annoying he was will live on forever!
@@thewarthogproject I know the feeling dude. I have my first and she is about a year old now. When she gets the zoomies going on it drives me insane. But... She is never going on the sim room that’s for sure. Lol
Thank you, fellow Aussie here, followed your instructions for the install, smooth as, much obliged!
I’ve just ordered this. Thanks for you comprehensive instructions, they should make the job much easier
In for the "that's what she said" jokes! Awesome upgrade and thanks for the detailed installation and review!
Thanks I couldn`t of replaced it without your video, nice cockpit !!
Glad to see you like it so much, it really it a ton better than the default slew sensor and I really dont understand why TM decided to use such a crap component for this vital piece of control in the Warthog HOTAS. It is a shame that there were only so many force sensitive variants to go around for the DeltaSim Slew Mod, I have really been enjoying mine in these past months :)
Many Thanks for making us aware of this modification and how to do the job too!
Man you have such an awesome setup it goes so above and beyond. I tip my hat to ya.
I purchased this kit from Delta Sim Electronics and I have to say that the quality of the product I received is excellent, I believe they have changed the manufacturing process and now all those 3D-printed parts are high quality plastic, probably from an injection mould. This upgrade is a must.
11:58 LOL "Gently side that in" up in the top left *That's what she said XD
Nice, thx for the video on this product. Definitely need that thing on my Warthog.
Thanks for the guide mate
Thanks for the video. Just ordered my kit...can't wait!
Absolutely amazing cockpit you've got there.
Ordered mine! Can't wait! :)
In the old days when i didnt have the hotas yet I used to connect an old ps3 controller to use for slewing. I remember those where some pretty good slewing times
I struggled with this. Maybe I have fat fingers, but I couldn't seem to unclip the side I could reach. Terrified of breaking something, but I got it eventually. You made it look easy
Thank you. I have owned two warthog hotas and thought that they were broken due to that slew switch due to everything else being so smooth.
Thanks. Very helpful indeed. I finally replaced the little bugger.
I had toyed with getting one of these. I hated that switch and was using the ministick on my vkb stick.. The hog throttles good except for this . This mods a lot cheaper than buying a new virpil throttle :) You have convinced me . Time to upgrade :)
You sir. Are a fucking genius. I love your work and the a10. Ive always wanted to build a full cockpit. But I dknt have that kind of money or skill.
The main problem I have with the nipple is being able to click it without massively moving the TDC in the process. Hopefully this is much better, have ordered.
The original slew control is a small force transducer. It outputs an x/y signal. It's the same one used in the F-15C. (I've got grip-envy over how easy it is to get into that throttle grip for repair. The real thing is a pain in the ass - the A-10 grip is nearly identical to the F-15C.) Also, be nice to the cat. :D
Deltasim actually make a proper force transducer replacement as well- although its much more expensive.
My initial reaction was that it's expensive for a rewired analog stick but seeing that he went through the trouble of building a custom PCB with a microcontroller, nice sinter printed parts and included shipping in the price it's really good value. Guess I better look into updating my Hog's firmware first.
That force sensing option is really tempting too!
Yeah i forgot to mention the force sensing option! I might pick one up when they are available!
@@thewarthogproject I wound up getting one around late December and man it's a massive upgrade over the one that comes in the Hog. Cheers from Malaysia!
Amazing sim rig you have there! WOW!
thank you for this video. I have freed the NIP!!
You talk to your cat like I talk to mine lol.
This is amazing! I am definitely getting this! Thanks for showing it!
Nice! I am ordereing myself one of these! Thanks for showing it!
Beautiful setup, I've noticed you've not uploaded for 3 months hope your ok..💚
Please people when you put the big screws back in turn them BACKWARDS with light inwards pressure until you feel a click this means the threads are lined up then screw them in. this avoids cutting a new thread and compromising the plastic housing.
Must be good 2 month wait. Thanks for sharing 🙃🙃👍👍
Forgot to say... I ended up preordering myself one of these so thanks for the tip. Got to wait until November though... must be popular.
did you get it yet?
halfway through your video I ordered one.
Didn't know that you can map the Mav key to the left MFCD. :O And very good Video, I will save it as an tutorial for me in case I finally upgrade my Wartog Slew Sensor. Thank you very much.
Beautiful cockpit! Green with envy!
Done this today and everything went perfectly well :)
11:04.
Completely relatable...
I'm LOL at your Cat! :) Nice Vid. Something I've wanted to do to mine as well but this makes it look like it's actually doable!
Thanks for what you doing
Thanks for this video. I just ordered myself one as well, along with the pinky switch replacement :-)
you sir caused me to spend 3 weekends building an ejection seat and a home flight sim of the A-10 lol!!! mine only has the UFC, MFDs and the warthog throttle stick/rudder pedals that function but thats ok cause i fly with VR oculus rift s anyway but i love your sim man!!
U should post some action videos of you flying sorties! We’ve seen the gear let’s see it in a mission. Great, interesting content man! Very ingenious indeed. 🤘😎
Workng on it!
Wow this is awesome! Looks like I'll be adding this to my to-do list haha. Great video! (Awsome simpit btw)
First of all deeply impressed by your work.
Second as an Aussie living out of the country I really love your humour and personality "That's what she said."
Are you excited over the ED announcement regarding improvements to the A10C interface?
lol
Quite interesting project.
Nice upgrade mate. I haven't checked in for awhile but the sim's coming along nicely. I have my CNC mill running now so I'll be cutting panels for the Huey to finish the upper and lower consoles. Decided against DCS BIOS now and I'll just go with Arduino Leonardo's with my custom sketch for configuration to allow for multi helicopter setup.
just installed mine, thanks for your vid
an in the moment your cat called, i turned over to let mine in, wich wasnt there :) good audio man :)
1:00 - Wait, so it's not just me? *Thank* you!
I haven't done this mod yet, and I'm not sure this will help with the TMW throttle hardware, but for self-tapping screws in general, I always turn them counterclockwise (or anti-clockwise, for youse European folks) until I feel a small "click", and then I screw 'er in, so to speak. That is in the interest of not stripping the threads of the hole. At any rate, THANKS for making this vid. This mod has been on my shopping list for a couple months.
Ha, why would it be anti-clockwise in Europe?
Everyone speaks americanized english anyways, except for the tea drinkers ofcourse.
@@nonegone7170 You mean us Brit's? yes we have fought Americanization for a generation, but for anyone 20 or under it's too late lol.
Great upgrade, great video ! If you want to make slew even smoother, you can increase dead zone and reduce Axis saturation (if you assigned it as axis in a first place), which kind of equals analog slew sensitivity. Slew is gonna be a bit slower (as you set it), but less jerky too. Can even try it with the bad old slew "nipple", before committing for an upgrade purchase. However, for me Windows own Controller calibration centers the nipple better, than Thrustmaster's calibration tool shown in the video to be honest. The latter always offsets the mini stick center a bit down for me.
The internal build of the Warthog is pretty dodgy because most users don’t strip their sticks... but nearly all joysticks wiring is crappy (Saitek stuff is abysmal). The number of pinched wires I’ve found in joysticks over the years is horrifying. When I stripped the Warthog Joystick to sand the flashing off the joystick ball I hated all the crappy wiring and tidied it all up before reassembling. I use old style lacing cord to manage the wires.
You should see the inside of the Cougar MFD's! Wowsers they are bad quality.
so we connect the wire to the existing cat and we are good to go. Got it. Hope my cat will apreciate the upgrade.
And with the Hornet we have cat launch now ...
Thanks for this video, I just ordered this kit. The slew control on the warthog was never usable for me, hopefully this will fix that.
rogue109 it will, it’s a pleasure to use now
been wanting one of these for some time, but my ch stuff just refuses to die.
The only issue I had was that it was just still 8bit precision. Which is 256 points on an axis. Decided to make an arduino and a small usb hub PCB into the throttle. Works as a charm and on 16bits (−32,768 to 32,767 points) but this upgrade requires know how on soldering and a bit of programming to do.
Wow- tidy solution placing a USB hub and arduino inside the throttle!
To be honest I can't believe there is difference at all. The arm of the sensor joystick and its angular move range are so short that I doubt if increasing resolution of a sensor would change anything.
Source: been there, done that with my DIY joystick, throttles and so on.
thanks! just purchased one from deltasim - i hope you get a cut :)
Sold
Thanks for this vid. As a result I have done this upgrade and it was easy as! Legend.
Instructions unclear : I connected the wires to the cat
"Slew left, cat! Slew left! ...and depress!"
"Meow!"
@@tomaszwota1465 yeah, didn't work that well for me either, except in the f-14 but that's a given ^^
Only thing missing now is a physical hud, and a physical windshield :p
And a fuselage. And wings. And two TF34s. And 46.3 million dollars!
That looks like a great upgrade and thanks for the informative video
Man this is awesome...I wan't to play with this
The cat ... LOL
SWeeeet.😎👍👍
hmm or maybe sour 😢 Just showed the wife a few of your videos and then I PROBABLY made the mistake of showing her the plans etc, since I have a laser cutter I thought hmm. We also have a spare room...... I think mentioning all three in one conversation was the kicker.
BOO HISS but I wants one!
Idk if your taking requests but a tutorial on how to bind toggle switches using lua because i cant seem to do it on the f16 it always greys out all my controls except keyboard
I gave up on LUA Editing a long time ago for the same reason! You should look into using Gadroc's Helios Software- I use it to run all the switches in my cockpit without having to change anything within DCS. And when i jump in a different aircraft all i need to do is click one button in helios and everything works! Have a look for a CaptZeen profile- i dont thin he has the F16 working yet but no doubt he will soon.
You know, It seems perfectly reasonable and sensible, but it never once occurred to me that fighter jets would have side view mirrors.
Thanks for this
What timing! Mine is ‘out for delivery’ as I’m typing this. Long overdue
Took a couple of months to get to me, only because the first was lost in the post. The seller was fantastic, thankfully he took my word for it and shipped a replacement out with the next run. About 2 weeks after that it arrived in Australia. He uses normal post, no express options available internationally due to cost.