Useful chars, can you do a fammily tree of the Ayuthya dynesty, or any other Thai dynesty, if you would like too; because it will be useful to know previous Thsi monarchs. Thanks.
@@NeonAarth Thailand is a constitutional monarchy; meaning that the King has limited power. Most of it I's heled by the Parliment. It is iligal to criticize the king, or step on a Thai Bhat Mark. Furthermore, it is iligal to defame or make a derogatory remark another the total fammily.
As a Thai Aussie full credit to you for you pronounciation of thai names. Even though I speak Thai fluently reading the kings names in English is really difficult
Pronouncing Thai from Romanised spelling is no easy feat, but one thing to note is that a final L gets pronounced as N, so Mahidol is pronounced “Ma-hee-don”, etc. Incidentally it was Rama VI who came up with the Rama title in order to make it easier for westerners. The name Rama of course referring to the Ramakien, or Ramayana, epic. Ayutthaya wasn’t a dynasty, but a kingdom that controlled the other Thai kingdoms. Over the centuries it was ruled by several dynasties. Today it lies about a 2 hours’ drive North of Bangkok, and is a UNESCO World Heritage Site.
It was common in every monarchy from any nation in the past. Most of the Royal families married their cousin or even their sister (Real sister!! like born from the same womb) to keep the blood pure
The two queens were actually full sister with same mother. There was also another queen, the oldest sister who drowned and died in early twenties, 3 of them were full sisters. The last queen was born from another mother, she descended from Bunnak Clan which at the time the most powerful noble house, even more powerful than Chakri Dynasty itself.
@@guyparris4871 In Soul Of A Nation a BBC documentary on the Thai royal family, the narrator pronounces the King's name as Phumiphon which is how it was spelt on the cover of Time magazine April 3 1950. Irrespective, he is probably the last Dhamma-Raja, a king who rules generously for the benefit of his people, in line with the Dhamma, and in return is widely loved by the people he rules.
@@gluttonousmanu2725 Rama is the main divine charactor in Ramayana fron Indian literature. The title Rama is borrowed fron Brahma (ancient hindu) tradition to send message that the kings are reincarnated bodies of Rama and the people should obey him. Much similar to how European kings making people believe they were god-assigned to rule. The X is roman number as the current king is the 10th king of Chakri Dynasty.
Before the establishment of Rattanakosin Kingdom with Bangkok as the capital in 1782, the unified Thai Kingdom was ruled by many Kingdoms and Dynasties. There were also many Kingdoms, both of the Thais and and of other ethnic groups, existed on the area which became Thailand today. Some of those Kingdoms existed before the establishment of the first unified Thai Kingdom, Sukhothai Kingdom, but later were annexed into the Thai Kingdom or the neighboring Kingdoms. The Kingdoms and Dynasties which ruled the unified Thai Kingdom in the past were: 1.Sukothai Kingdom (1238 - 1438) Phra Ruang Dynasty - 9 Kings 2.Ayutthaya Kingdom (1350 - 1767) Uthong Dynasty - 3 Kings Suphannaphum Dynasty - 13 Kings (The number is disputed between 13 and 14.) Sukhothai Dynasty - 7 Kings (This Dynasty descended from Phra Ruang Dynasty.) Prasat Thong Dynasty - 4 Kings Ban Phlu Luang Dynasty - 6 Kings 3.Thonburi Kingdom (1767 - 1782) Thonburi Dynasty - 1 King.
As a random Thai student who never listens (or rarely) in history class but is good at English (Eventhough I spell something wrong in this sentence) This is quite useful. thank you !
At least Thailand has no shortage of possible heirs, unlike countries like Japan where the entire future of the dynasty rests on the shoulders of a single person.
@@penparnsailarm7094 Yes, and if Dipangkorn died, there would be a next one in the line of succession. And another one. And many more. The family tree has lots of branches. Japan's monarchy has exactly one possible heir, all other branches of the family have died out already. If that last heir dies childless, the whole dynasty dies with him.
@@renerpho it's a bit complicated here. With many branches are still around, they might need to trace back to King Rama V's family tree and see who is the next heir in line if the current line has a problem. The other problem is that most of the eldest relatives to the king are very old
Yes I know what is the true.. But "what is the true that you know!?" And none of your business to judge , and I'm sure that you are not better than him either, so stop your Big Gop and get on with your life.
This is ripe for an update. The eldest daughter has suffered a near fatal aneurism and has been in a coma for several months. She had be presumed to act a regent for the heir presumptive who would be unlikely to be able to ever assume the throne (I'll let you look up why, I don't want to go to jail). There seemed to be a brief attempt to rehabilitate the image of one of the younger sons of wife #2, but I haven't seen anything about him on the new for a few months. The king has remarried... (Again, I'll leave the details out.)
Taksin the great was the Chinese decedents, while King Rama I ancestors was the first Diplomat who visited King Louise. So King Rama I got more support from many nobles. There were also the rumors, which recorded by the foreigners who lived in Taksin the great period, said that King Taksin was claimed that he had the special power for meditation and he could fly. Also he asked the controversial question to the monk that if he could meditate so that he reached the stage of Sodaban. The monk should pay the respect to him. So, at the end of his reign, it possibly be that he might have some mental issues and was Coup by King Rama I.
IIRC, Mongkut (sp?) Is the one sent a letter to Abraham Lincoln offering male elephants to help fight the Civil War, which I believe is in the National Archives.
Yes it's TRUE and our Lovely king Rama 9 he also represented a very famous speeches in US Congress that make everyone stand up and look at Thai king as worthy king of the world. *we offered your country elephant, yes we did because of friendship. But remember elepnaht can be use in many way therefore it can be use in war or farm industry. I dont remeber the rest what our king Rama 9 said but that speech make all US political in Congress very very impress of our King Rama 9 He is the best king ever in thai royal history
The letter was to send to the President of the United States and took a LONG time to be delivered, Lincoln was simply the one to receive it when it finally arrived.
Good video. Seeing as Bajrakitiyabha is the eldest and probably the best qualified of Rama X's children (has a Bachelor of Law, a Bachelor of Arts in International relations, a Master of Law and a Doctor of Juridical Science, holds several titles such as ambassador to Austria), to me she seems the best suited for being heir of Thailand. It just depends on how opposed they are to the prospect of a female monarch.
@@jandevries1300 how come dipangkorn have riyal blood from mothers side. His mother is a commoner. In oriental perspect he is a half blood prince like his grand father bhumibol. But in a background of absence of any ubhayakula parisuddha (bilaterally pure blooded) princes he is a presumptive heir. But not rightful any way. The rightful heir is obviously juthavachara if not he is an illegitimate son.
This is not likely to happen because Our Succession is Male-preference primogeniture, Our heir-presumptive is Dipangkorn, his youngest Son born to the Royal consort (พระวรชายา) and if he lives well into his 20s he will be make Crown Prince. While in case of his Second wife She hold the title of Mom (หม่อม) which is a generic title of a Commoner that married into the royal family, but not elevate to the royal rank. Her children hold the title "Mom Rajawongse" (หม่อมราชวงศ์: refer to as "The Honourable") which is one of the title for the descendants of the Royal family, They were striped of their title after the divorce. Except for his daughter, Sirivannavari which her grandfather bestowed her a royal, higher rank.
I agree. She should be the next Queen of Thailand since Thailand never had any Queens Regnant. Her mother is his father's cousin so her lineage is undisputedly royal (ignoring incest). Her mother is also very active to attend engagements at her capacity despite being severely ill. Same goes for the King's sisters Princess Chulabhorn and Princess Sirindhorn.
For information, in Thailand, if the princess marry a commoner, she will lose her title and status like in Japan. But since the Thai nobility had been abolished in 1942 (although it was repealed two years later, the noble titles are currently no longer granted to the individuals), I think the Thai government also need to amend the law so the princesses can marry without losing their titles.
The people who lived in what is now Thailand were not the same as the people who now live there. The descendants of the original peoples are now a minority in political, economic, social and cultural power and forced to become Thai (or rather Tai)
Yeah most of the Lao people don't live in Laos but in Thailand where they are called Isan people and their language the Isan language, which is considered a dialect of Thai, after the name of the region
Just an update on the 4th option, the current queen's age is currently 42 so might be hard for her to have children, however, the king also appointed the new royal noble consort. so the 4th option might be from the new consort instead.
Well Malaysian Monarchy also interesting to study too. Hope you enjoy your day. Nice vid, Thailand and Malaysia have their own history together for a long time
Well, in Thai we have name for the first two king. Rama the First, Phra Phutthayodfah Chulalok. I thought this is quite long and there weren't much western relation at that time, so he might not have official English name. and Rama II has a name called "Phra Phuttaleotlah Napalai". The other reason that I thought is, both name aren't their real name. I think the name had been written to have good meaning rather than using their real name. Ps. Rama I real name is Thong Duang
The points made above are all valid, and the pronunciation of L as an N at the end of a name or word especially important ..... but the pronunciation of genealogy is just that, not geneology as I think I heard....important, as that is the name of the subject being outlined.
Phra Phutthayodfa Chulalok and Phra Phutthaloetla Naphalai is the name of two Buddha statues inside the Royal Chapel of the Emerald Buddha; King Rama III build and dedicated it to the previous kings, so they are called such. The full royal ceremonial name of the first three kings are the same.
Thailand never been a colony of the Wests because we have the wise kings. The monarchy enhance stability of the Thai nation. The king founded Siam Kingdom 800 years ago and liberated the nation from occupied of Burmese troop. Without our warrior kings, Siam will be occupied by Burmese troop and became the British colony after Burma was occupied by Britain and was merged with Burma after independent. This why we love our king with gratitude.
@@Desertfox18 Quite late but Malaysian states are used to be separate sultanates or kingdoms (there are 9 of them), hence how one nation have 9 separate rulers of 9 from 13 different states (most with the title of Sultan). A king from nine of these rulers elected via Majlis Raja-Raja (some kind of a council of kings) for a term of 5 years to hold the position of Yang di-Pertuan Agong (aka King of Malaysia), the current YDPA (for short term of that position) is the Sultan of Johor which he will ascend the throne on this year 31st January
Do you mean complexity? I think we do understand how complex the topic is, and find the rules involved and the element of chance all part of the attraction.
Why did he disinherit his sons from his second wife? Did he not love his sons to keep in contact with them? Did they side with their mother in the divorce? There has to be a reason other than simply because they got a divorce. Is there some law where the heir must be from currently married monarchs in Thailand and divorces automatically bar that line?
It's very complicated. Btw, the current king is not a good guy. If you want to know about him, you need to dig a little bit deep because the bad news about thai monarch are not shown in typical thai media. You can follow Andrew Mcgreger Marshall on facebook for more about Rama x and his wives.
@@mattowensrees Actually, I also follow Somsak Jeamterasakul but he has his health problem and he wrote his status in thai many non- thai speakers don't understand him. So, I think that Marshall is the only source non-thai speakers could find. If there are any news sources please let me know. I also think that Marshall is bias.
Great exolaination, dude! As a Thai person, I really appreciate how you explained everything so nicely. I really love history too. Keey up the good work. :)
I really enjoy your channel. I'm from Sri Lanka where has very old and rich cultural heritage which is dated back to 1st century BC. Hope you will make a family tree of Sri Lankan dynasty
@@Kilimicore wowww.that is something She is smart. I think she have the potential to the the next king if this king is gone. The younger prince didnt look strong and good enough to be a king one day.
2:00 Actually There’s a another conspiracy about that story, The another story is that Taksin actually tells Rama the first to be king because he wanted to travel to the south of Thailand to become a monk so then Rama the first became king. Edit: the reason that he travelled to southern Thailand to be a monk because he want to cut ties as a king with China because he used to borrow stuff and food from China to help the people but he can’t pay China back.
Very informative video. Although you missed out an interesting fact when talking about current heirs. @11:54 you show a photo of the heir presumptive to the throne, Dipangkorn Rasmijoti. What you didn’t mention was in the photo he is seen cuddling the late Air Chief Marshal of the Royal Thai Air Force, Fufu. 😂
And thus, the mystery of “Rama” is explained. I admit I don’t really think about monarchs in general, but I have no problem eating up factoids when they’re presented. I’d love a quick overview of Cambodian monarchs too! The genocide ripped through the country and educated folks were mass murdered so many who fled to countries like the US, like my parents themselves, don’t know our history as they were farmers.
@@singharpan9859 Yes, it is. Ayutthaya and Ayodhya are similar. Thai believe the king is Lord Rama avatar to solve the problems and miseries of his subjects. Ayutthaya means invincible city of Lord Rama. We received this belief from India.
Checked out your channel and watched a many of your videos which I enjoyed. I am curious though if you could possibly do a chart figuring out the lineages of Atilla? I know his origins are shrouded in mystery but would be nice if it was finally solved. Also, its a long shot but could you find out the lineages of the Leitner family 9 szent míhaly street? Thank you for all the work you put into these great detailed videos!
I do think the next King would be from the second wife's son. Yet Dipangkorn need to sail his boat carefully as his father now is 66 already. Seems the King is still looks healthy by far. Dipangkorn have enough time to build himself a good career as future king as well.
Agreed. But i think the son fr his second marriage is the best choice. But i dont understand why the new King did not reconised all his son fr his second marriage. Weird. To me the first daughter too is capable to replaced the King one day. The youngest son dont look like his normal.
@@afifahsaaid8433 There was a problem when they divorced so that ex-wife and all of her sons have moved to overseas since then. No media in Thailand mention about them like they have never existed so it's nearly 0% that any of the sons can become the next king
@@UsefulCharts No, she was, until 2014. She has since transferred back to the attorney office, the previous occupation she'd held before becoming a diplomat.
You're right. I forgot about him. I quickly referenced the Wikipedia list but they didn't include him since Swaziland was part of the British Empire for most of his reign. Imo, his reign still counts though. I probably need to do a video on the longest reigning monarchs so I can research the topic more.
@@darthsawlex8257 Louis XIV and Franz Joseph also had a regent and didn't get crowned till adulthood, and still the figures he gave included the regency period. Not to say your point isn't valid, just wanted to clarify. But what better than a video dedicated to the subject to cover all these quirks?
Probebly Prince Dipangkorn. He has Royal blood in his veins. Besides he is a male heir and upon 1000 years of tradition he has the most prominent claim to the throne. Since he is only 14 it would be considered wise to (if anything would happen to King Rama X) install princess Bairakityabha as acting regent on behalve of the then Rama XI until he is able to fulfill his duty when he is of age and able to rule the country as head of state. Please comment I'm interested in other opinions towards the matter.
Sri Lankan Royal Family Tree is much older (around 2500 years), with written sources and is related to Indian Royal Family Tree. Your chart is misleading due to this. Hope you could do something about this.
That will be VERY difficult. As stated, the four sons from the second wife are currently disowned and stripped of their titles. With the youngest son being heir presumptive, at this point, it's really anyone's guess. I would hope that they four sons would retain their titles...but with the lives they've built for themselves, they'd have to make a transition and I can only imagine that said transition will be very complicated. That's just my take on it from where I'm standing.
BTW, if you have/haven't seen the 1956 movie or the DreamWorks 1999 animated adaptation of *"The King and I",* I'd highly recommend it to anyone who might be able to guess where Useful Charts is referring to at the moment, *King Rama IV/Mongkut of Siam.*
Overall of Thailand History, from Sukhothai to Rattanakosin, to occupy the throne by royal succession or enthroned, were familiar as other kingdoms. But there is one important point Thailand likes no others, is neither empiricism nor colonialism. From this video, there are documentaries on the internet explaining why Thailand remains the only country in Southeast Asia not colonized by Europeans. Lastly, everything single internal conflicts, just only one word from the king, whole country becomes peaceful as fast as blinking eyes. FYI: generally my surname spelling is "Ittiwattana". But my surname was one of thousands royal given surname, spelling format, Chamberlain Office Announcement in 1917.
I truly understand it is very hard to pronounce thai names, I’m thai and somehow names can be very hard to say properly. You make a great vdo lol. Something here is new for me. (Because this is not what they taught us.)
There are a legend that suggest the connection of Rama I to the lineage of King Ekathotsarot, the Ayutthayan king. But the academics suggest it is mostly a later inventions to legitimize the dynasty. About the end of Taksin, there are speculation about the issue of ethnicity of Taksin, as he is a Chinese descent. Both Taksin and Rama I was served in a relatively high position in the Ayutthayan court, and both are close friend, in fact, Taksin and Rama I fought side by side to unify the country after the fall of Ayutthaya by the Burmese. But the people in the court most likely see Taksin as not suitable, or maybe not "Thai" enough to led the country as king. Plus towards the end of Taksin's reign, there are report of him being insane, may be due to PTSD; one report suggested that he ordered that all monks must bow to him, which is a breach to a Buddhist tradition, that monk is superior than the everyone, include the position of the king. At that time Rama I was sent by Taksin to conquer Cambodia, but have to retreat due to instability and insurgences around the capital. So, after defeated the rebellion, he ended up execute Taksin, and reign as king of the new dynasty. Other alternative speculation suggested that he actually abdicate and became a monk, and lived in a monastery in the southern province of Nakhorn Sri Dharmaraj (this mostly due to the fact that Taksin son was appointed as a governor of Nakhorn Sri Dharmaraj during the reign of Rama I)
I'm Thai. The 1st succession is our princess who is little sister of our king, not his children because she has the title of crown princess that received from our late king Rama IX. Btw, the royal family cannot accept woman to succeed to the throne. The king 1st heir is prince Dipankorn not anyone else. We expect that prince Dipankorn will receive the title of crown prince later when he grow up or may be new son from our new queen. This will be judged by our king, later. Those first 4 sons of our king is not count as our royal family any more. They not even have prince as their title as prince Dipankorn. . About the mystery murder case of King Rama VIII, The case closed and sentenced to death the murderers who intruded the King's bedroom. Those are the palace staff who appointed by the revolutionaries.
The name of Siam was changed to Thailand in 1939. Actually, people of Siam or Siamese had called themselves as "Thai" which means "Free Man" since the ancient time, according to the memoir of Simon de la Loubère, French Diplomat who lived in Siam during the Ayutthaya period. There are many theories about the origin of the name "Siam" and why foreigners called this country as Siam. Many scholars had debated about the origin of the name "Siam" and said that this name may have originated from many languages, such as Pali (Suvannabhumi, "Land of Gold") or Sanskrit (Syama, "Dark"). Since the foreigners called this country as Siam, Siamese governments in the past used this name for trade and communication with other countries. The name was changed to "Thailand" or "Land of the Thais" in 1939 by the government under Nationalist Field Marshall Plaek Phibunsongkhram (1897 - 1964, Prime Minister 1938 - 1944 and 1948 - 1957) and Thailand has become the name of the country since then.
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Useful chars, can you do a fammily tree of the Ayuthya dynesty, or any other Thai dynesty, if you would like too; because it will be useful to know previous Thsi monarchs. Thanks.
@UsefulCharts Has thailand change its laws?
@@NeonAarth
Thailand is a constitutional monarchy; meaning that the King has limited power. Most of it I's heled by the Parliment. It is iligal to criticize the king, or step on a Thai Bhat Mark. Furthermore, it is iligal to defame or make a derogatory remark another the total fammily.
As a Thai Aussie full credit to you for you pronounciation of thai names. Even though I speak Thai fluently reading the kings names in English is really difficult
I have Thailand blood , my father side ,he is from kampung pokok sena alor setar Kedah ,north malaysia...his name is Abdul Halim ..ethnic Thai - yati
Siam, we read it not like "Sayyum" but "Seeyum".
Pronouncing Thai from Romanised spelling is no easy feat, but one thing to note is that a final L gets pronounced as N, so Mahidol is pronounced “Ma-hee-don”, etc. Incidentally it was Rama VI who came up with the Rama title in order to make it easier for westerners. The name Rama of course referring to the Ramakien, or Ramayana, epic.
Ayutthaya wasn’t a dynasty, but a kingdom that controlled the other Thai kingdoms. Over the centuries it was ruled by several dynasties. Today it lies about a 2 hours’ drive North of Bangkok, and is a UNESCO World Heritage Site.
It's not necessarily in correct. Thailand uses Sanskrit names so it's optional to use Sanskrit pronunciation or Thai Sanskrit pronunciation
อติรุจ True, but then it would be pronounced as Mahidola. ไม่เคยได้ยินใครออกเสียงแบบนี้นะครับ
@@WaterShowsProd Sanskrit doesn't always have an -a on the end
Agree
And the “r” is pronounced the British way and not the hard “r” the American English way. I laughed every time he said “corn” for “korn”
"I'm the king of Thailand. Meet my wife, who is my half sister, and my other wife, who is also my half sister."
It was common in every monarchy from any nation in the past. Most of the Royal families married their cousin or even their sister (Real sister!! like born from the same womb) to keep the blood pure
The two queens were actually full sister with same mother. There was also another queen, the oldest sister who drowned and died in early twenties, 3 of them were full sisters. The last queen was born from another mother, she descended from Bunnak Clan which at the time the most powerful noble house, even more powerful than Chakri Dynasty itself.
He married 5(!) of his half-sisters
Also in ancient Egypt and many old Hawaiian royal families were married within close family members. It's more common in the past than you think .
He is Aegon Targaryen
Their names are not Spanish, so Vajiralongkorn should be pronounced as Vachiralongkorn not Vahiralongkorn.
LOL
And Buhmipon
@@guyparris4871 In Soul Of A Nation a BBC documentary on the Thai royal family, the narrator pronounces the King's name as Phumiphon which is how it was spelt on the cover of Time magazine April 3 1950. Irrespective, he is probably the last Dhamma-Raja, a king who rules generously for the benefit of his people, in line with the Dhamma, and in return is widely loved by the people he rules.
Why Thailand's king is also known as Rama X
@@gluttonousmanu2725 Rama is the main divine charactor in Ramayana fron Indian literature. The title Rama is borrowed fron Brahma (ancient hindu) tradition to send message that the kings are reincarnated bodies of Rama and the people should obey him. Much similar to how European kings making people believe they were god-assigned to rule. The X is roman number as the current king is the 10th king of Chakri Dynasty.
Before the establishment of Rattanakosin Kingdom with Bangkok as the capital in 1782, the unified Thai Kingdom was ruled by many Kingdoms and Dynasties. There were also many Kingdoms, both of the Thais and and of other ethnic groups, existed on the area which became Thailand today. Some of those Kingdoms existed before the establishment of the first unified Thai Kingdom, Sukhothai Kingdom, but later were annexed into the Thai Kingdom or the neighboring Kingdoms.
The Kingdoms and Dynasties which ruled the unified Thai Kingdom in the past were:
1.Sukothai Kingdom (1238 - 1438)
Phra Ruang Dynasty - 9 Kings
2.Ayutthaya Kingdom (1350 - 1767)
Uthong Dynasty - 3 Kings
Suphannaphum Dynasty - 13 Kings
(The number is disputed between 13 and 14.)
Sukhothai Dynasty - 7 Kings
(This Dynasty descended from Phra Ruang Dynasty.)
Prasat Thong Dynasty - 4 Kings
Ban Phlu Luang Dynasty - 6 Kings
3.Thonburi Kingdom (1767 - 1782)
Thonburi Dynasty - 1 King.
As a random Thai student who never listens (or rarely) in history class but is good at English (Eventhough I spell something wrong in this sentence) This is quite useful. thank you !
I got grades 2.5 on Thai lesson
10:31
"If she's still alive by January..."
My friend, the queen is immortal. Accept that
she isn't. accept that
@@talamahmoud10 r/whoosh
@@talamahmoud10 dah.
@@talamahmoud10 she is. accept that
If she is still on the throne by May 2022 she will surpass King Bhumibols reign.
คุณศึกษามาดีมาก อธิบายได้ดี แม้แต่คนไทยบางคนที่อาจไม่รู้ประวัติศาสตร์ก็สามารถเข้าใจได้จากที่คุณอธิบาย
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My friend actually used to go to the same school as Prince Dipangkorn, and was in the same class with him.
Then your friend and me went to the same school
@@m.s.1067 Is he actually autistic?
Sam yes
In germany?
@@renebaebae0600 Nah back in Bangkok or smth
I know the role has not existed for nearly a millenium, but it would be fun to see a list of the (confirmed) High Kings of Ireland.
Oneills
At least Thailand has no shortage of possible heirs, unlike countries like Japan where the entire future of the dynasty rests on the shoulders of a single person.
Actually at the moment it is only Dipangkorn
@@penparnsailarm7094 Yes, and if Dipangkorn died, there would be a next one in the line of succession. And another one. And many more. The family tree has lots of branches.
Japan's monarchy has exactly one possible heir, all other branches of the family have died out already. If that last heir dies childless, the whole dynasty dies with him.
Thailand republic is the best.
@@renerpho it's a bit complicated here. With many branches are still around, they might need to trace back to King Rama V's family tree and see who is the next heir in line if the current line has a problem. The other problem is that most of the eldest relatives to the king are very old
@@chickkye7009 it is as good as the us Republic and it sucks
Rama X is a real royal playboy XD
Grow up and live in the real world , lmao 🤣
@@ghopsaosila5054 it is a true fact
Yes I know what is the true.. But "what is the true that you know!?"
And none of your business to judge , and I'm sure that you are not better than him either, so stop your Big Gop and get on with your life.
How about you go and get on with your life instead, and stop writing comments on a 1 year old post, dum dum.
@@Lord_Raymund she's one of the bilnd royal supporters, you don't have to take what she says serious
Okay. This was recommended to me by RUclips, while the Thai monarchy is threatened by civil unrest.
This is ripe for an update. The eldest daughter has suffered a near fatal aneurism and has been in a coma for several months. She had be presumed to act a regent for the heir presumptive who would be unlikely to be able to ever assume the throne (I'll let you look up why, I don't want to go to jail). There seemed to be a brief attempt to rehabilitate the image of one of the younger sons of wife #2, but I haven't seen anything about him on the new for a few months. The king has remarried... (Again, I'll leave the details out.)
So King Rama I was a sort of Tywin Lannister
Yes
😂😂indeed
Taksin the great was the Chinese decedents, while King Rama I ancestors was the first Diplomat who visited King Louise. So King Rama I got more support from many nobles.
There were also the rumors, which recorded by the foreigners who lived in Taksin the great period, said that King Taksin was claimed that he had the special power for meditation and he could fly.
Also he asked the controversial question to the monk that if he could meditate so that he reached the stage of Sodaban. The monk should pay the respect to him.
So, at the end of his reign, it possibly be that he might have some mental issues and was Coup by King Rama I.
@@lingostarr6635 No, Rama I didn't have the Chinese descendents. Otherwise, he got the Mon descendants.
@@IssuiMatsuII ancestry and descendance are different things entirely
IIRC, Mongkut (sp?) Is the one sent a letter to Abraham Lincoln offering male elephants to help fight the Civil War, which I believe is in the National Archives.
Yes it's TRUE and our Lovely king Rama 9 he also represented a very famous speeches in US Congress that make everyone stand up and look at Thai king as worthy king of the world.
*we offered your country elephant, yes we did because of friendship. But remember elepnaht can be use in many way therefore it can be use in war or farm industry. I dont remeber the rest what our king Rama 9 said but that speech make all US political in Congress very very impress of our King Rama 9
He is the best king ever in thai royal history
I love king Rama 9 he do hard work for us (I'm Thai)
The letter was to send to the President of the United States and took a LONG time to be delivered, Lincoln was simply the one to receive it when it finally arrived.
Would love to see a video about the Malaysian royal family tree with all 9 monarchs and the rotation system of Yang Di-Pertuan Agong!
Good video. Seeing as Bajrakitiyabha is the eldest and probably the best qualified of Rama X's children (has a Bachelor of Law, a Bachelor of Arts in International relations, a Master of Law and a Doctor of Juridical Science, holds several titles such as ambassador to Austria), to me she seems the best suited for being heir of Thailand. It just depends on how opposed they are to the prospect of a female monarch.
@@jandevries1300 how come dipangkorn have riyal blood from mothers side. His mother is a commoner. In oriental perspect he is a half blood prince like his grand father bhumibol. But in a background of absence of any ubhayakula parisuddha (bilaterally pure blooded) princes he is a presumptive heir. But not rightful any way. The rightful heir is obviously juthavachara if not he is an illegitimate son.
Female monarch is possible however unlikely
This is not likely to happen because Our Succession is Male-preference primogeniture, Our heir-presumptive is Dipangkorn, his youngest Son born to the Royal consort (พระวรชายา) and if he lives well into his 20s he will be make Crown Prince. While in case of his Second wife She hold the title of Mom (หม่อม) which is a generic title of a Commoner that married into the royal family, but not elevate to the royal rank. Her children hold the title "Mom Rajawongse" (หม่อมราชวงศ์: refer to as "The Honourable") which is one of the title for the descendants of the Royal family, They were striped of their title after the divorce. Except for his daughter, Sirivannavari which her grandfather bestowed her a royal, higher rank.
I agree. She should be the next Queen of Thailand since Thailand never had any Queens Regnant. Her mother is his father's cousin so her lineage is undisputedly royal (ignoring incest). Her mother is also very active to attend engagements at her capacity despite being severely ill. Same goes for the King's sisters Princess Chulabhorn and Princess Sirindhorn.
His sister Princess Sirindhorn still holds the title Crown Princess, and the law of succession was changed in 1974 to allow female succession.
I love it when you connect events and Monarchs over time. You should make them for India (besides Mughal) and other regions as well.
For information, in Thailand, if the princess marry a commoner, she will lose her title and status like in Japan. But since the Thai nobility had been abolished in 1942 (although it was repealed two years later, the noble titles are currently no longer granted to the individuals), I think the Thai government also need to amend the law so the princesses can marry without losing their titles.
The people who lived in what is now Thailand were not the same as the people who now live there. The descendants of the original peoples are now a minority in political, economic, social and cultural power and forced to become Thai (or rather Tai)
Finally someone mention this. The King line are not originated from that land. They are conquerer
Yeah most of the Lao people don't live in Laos but in Thailand where they are called Isan people and their language the Isan language, which is considered a dialect of Thai, after the name of the region
Just an update on the 4th option, the current queen's age is currently 42 so might be hard for her to have children, however, the king also appointed the new royal noble consort. so the 4th option might be from the new consort instead.
Imagine just appointing yourself new girlfriends at will😂 not sure how that would go over with my partner..
Also in ancient Egypt and many old Hawaiian royal families were married within close family members. It's more common in the past than you think .
Well Malaysian Monarchy also interesting to study too. Hope you enjoy your day. Nice vid, Thailand and Malaysia have their own history together for a long time
mentioned about the Melakan dynasty just enough
@@aimanzaidi9478 I hope he make a Kelantan dynasty too
@chula former queen hahaha
@chula yes,Queen Elizabeth Isn Malaysia Queen Anymore
Well,He Should Make Brunei Monarchy Tree.Brunei Has Existed Since Around 1300
Well, in Thai we have name for the first two king. Rama the First, Phra Phutthayodfah Chulalok. I thought this is quite long and there weren't much western relation at that time, so he might not have official English name. and Rama II has a name called "Phra Phuttaleotlah Napalai". The other reason that I thought is, both name aren't their real name. I think the name had been written to have good meaning rather than using their real name.
Ps. Rama I real name is Thong Duang
The points made above are all valid, and the pronunciation of L as an N at the end of a name or word especially important ..... but the pronunciation of genealogy is just that, not geneology as I think I heard....important, as that is the name of the subject being outlined.
Phra Phutthayodfa Chulalok and Phra Phutthaloetla Naphalai is the name of two Buddha statues inside the Royal Chapel of the Emerald Buddha; King Rama III build and dedicated it to the previous kings, so they are called such.
The full royal ceremonial name of the first three kings are the same.
@@Nous98 Thanks for the information
They are posthumous names.
It is awesome that Monarchies still exist and some are very powerful.
But this is not good for Thailand...
@@winnamza Definitely not good for Thailand, particularly the new king. He's a nightmare.
Thailand never been a colony of the Wests because we have the wise kings. The monarchy enhance stability of the Thai nation. The king founded Siam Kingdom 800 years ago and liberated the nation from occupied of Burmese troop. Without our warrior kings, Siam will be occupied by Burmese troop and became the British colony after Burma was occupied by Britain and was merged with Burma after independent. This why we love our king
with gratitude.
@@panidadamapong9521 *had
@@panidadamapong9521No, without Thai conscripted warriors, we won't be here.
I love monarchy studies and my fav SEA monarch is Thailand and Malaysia's other than the Brunei's. Keep up the remarkable work 👍
Fun fact Malaysian has nine King
@@amirflorant3672 ehhhhh! Whaat? Give me info.
@@Desertfox18 Quite late but Malaysian states are used to be separate sultanates or kingdoms (there are 9 of them), hence how one nation have 9 separate rulers of 9 from 13 different states (most with the title of Sultan). A king from nine of these rulers elected via Majlis Raja-Raja (some kind of a council of kings) for a term of 5 years to hold the position of Yang di-Pertuan Agong (aka King of Malaysia), the current YDPA (for short term of that position) is the Sultan of Johor which he will ascend the throne on this year 31st January
I DONT THINK PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THE COMPLICITY OF HIS VIDEOS ...
BUT HE MAKES IT LOOK SO SIMPLISTIC...
Do you mean complexity?
I think we do understand how complex the topic is, and find the rules involved and the element of chance all part of the attraction.
whatever you say, shaq
Thanks for mentioning who's had the longest reign in history, I was curious as soon as you mentioned it! ☺️
Why did he disinherit his sons from his second wife? Did he not love his sons to keep in contact with them? Did they side with their mother in the divorce? There has to be a reason other than simply because they got a divorce. Is there some law where the heir must be from currently married monarchs in Thailand and divorces automatically bar that line?
It's very complicated. Btw, the current king is not a good guy. If you want to know about him, you need to dig a little bit deep because the bad news about thai monarch are not shown in typical thai media. You can follow Andrew Mcgreger Marshall on facebook for more about Rama x and his wives.
@@krittamethtowthirakul8068 Certainly check other sources but Marshall is too biased and has been away from Thailand too long to be relevant
@@mattowensrees Actually, I also follow Somsak Jeamterasakul but he has his health problem and he wrote his status in thai many non- thai speakers don't understand him. So, I think that Marshall is the only source non-thai speakers could find. If there are any news sources please let me know. I also think that Marshall is bias.
Basically he is scared that his dad would displaced him in favour of his sons, due to his improper behaviour.
I saw on Wiki that the 2nd Wife commited adultery
I know it's been a few episodes now, but loving the opening.
im thai and all your research on the channel are always top notch
Great exolaination, dude! As a Thai person, I really appreciate how you explained everything so nicely. I really love history too. Keey up the good work. :)
Liked instantly when u said Rama 1 steal the throne from King Taksin.
Damn his theif bloodline xD
I really enjoy your channel. I'm from Sri Lanka where has very old and rich cultural heritage which is dated back to 1st century BC. Hope you will make a family tree of Sri Lankan dynasty
I most definitely will. I lived in Sri Lanka for 8 years so it has a special place in my heart.
@@UsefulCharts wow.. 8 years.. good to know that.
Literally just based on the photo, Bajrakitiyabha looks very capable and intelligent.
She is
but why does she have the Austrian flag behind herself on the photo?
@@BiglerSakura She was an ambassador to Austria
@@Kilimicore wowww.that is something
She is smart. I think she have the potential to the the next king if this king is gone. The younger prince didnt look strong and good enough to be a king one day.
I am Thai and I like this video very much
Good
2:00 Actually There’s a another conspiracy about that story, The another story is that Taksin actually tells Rama the first to be king because he wanted to travel to the south of Thailand to become a monk so then Rama the first became king.
Edit: the reason that he travelled to southern Thailand to be a monk because he want to cut ties as a king with China because he used to borrow stuff and food from China to help the people but he can’t pay China back.
Yeah, I heard of that one as well. King Taksin steps down and lives a long life as a monk
no it’s impossible , his children latter tried to regain the power without any signs of him
Taksin killed by Rama I and Thaksin got disposed & exiled by Rama IX. How convenient
@Rob Scovell Thai king is Khmer ethnic and king taksin and thaksin shinavatra is tai from China
@@shovuthmen5478 King I is Mon, Tai and Chinese. Not Khmer.
Very informative video. Although you missed out an interesting fact when talking about current heirs. @11:54 you show a photo of the heir presumptive to the throne, Dipangkorn Rasmijoti. What you didn’t mention was in the photo he is seen cuddling the late Air Chief Marshal of the Royal Thai Air Force, Fufu. 😂
You said that half of Rama V's wives are his half sisters that means some of his kids are inbred because their parents are half siblings
Thank you so much for your broadcasting of this programming !
And thus, the mystery of “Rama” is explained. I admit I don’t really think about monarchs in general, but I have no problem eating up factoids when they’re presented. I’d love a quick overview of Cambodian monarchs too! The genocide ripped through the country and educated folks were mass murdered so many who fled to countries like the US, like my parents themselves, don’t know our history as they were farmers.
Thank you so much for your reporting today !
About the Kingdom of Lane Xang (or Laos in the present day)?
Didn't know about the line of Hugo! He's a really good singer BTW
His father has Blueblood
As a Thai, thanks for sharing this video
I am so obsessed with history, and thank you for doing this. If it is possible, Please do Ayutthaya..:)
Ayutthaya sounds a lot like "ayodhya" or "ayudhya", the city of Lord Rama. Is this connected?
@@singharpan9859 Yes, it is. Ayutthaya and Ayodhya are similar. Thai believe the king is Lord Rama avatar to solve the problems and miseries of his subjects. Ayutthaya means invincible city of Lord Rama. We received this belief from India.
6:35 they never got thailand
Bill Wurtz content. Yeah
As always fascinating, thank you for your hard work.
Am I the only one who's curious about monarchy around the world but too lazy to read them. This kind of videos are amazing. Thanks for it! 😺
I'd love to see the Cambodian kings, it would tie in with the rest of the Indochina area!
Including Vietnam too lmao?
Which program do you use to make these charts? Seems like a useful way to keep notes while studying.
Checked out your channel and watched a many of your videos which I enjoyed. I am curious though if you could possibly do a chart figuring out the lineages of Atilla? I know his origins are shrouded in mystery but would be nice if it was finally solved. Also, its a long shot but could you find out the lineages of the Leitner family 9 szent míhaly street? Thank you for all the work you put into these great detailed videos!
I absolutely love your videos and your explanations!
I do think the next King would be from the second wife's son. Yet Dipangkorn need to sail his boat carefully as his father now is 66 already.
Seems the King is still looks healthy by far. Dipangkorn have enough time to build himself a good career as future king as well.
Agreed. But i think the son fr his second marriage is the best choice. But i dont understand why the new King did not reconised all his son fr his second marriage. Weird. To me the first daughter too is capable to replaced the King one day. The youngest son dont look like his normal.
@@afifahsaaid8433 There was a problem when they divorced so that ex-wife and all of her sons have moved to overseas since then. No media in Thailand mention about them like they have never existed so it's nearly 0% that any of the sons can become the next king
@@tameaw except the daughter Sirivannavari... why
@@jays.929 I don't know. His favourite, may be?
11:34 why is the Austrian flag there?
She's currently the Thai ambassador to Austria.
@@UsefulCharts No, she was, until 2014. She has since transferred back to the attorney office, the previous occupation she'd held before becoming a diplomat.
I WAS WAITING FOR THIS! THANK YOU SO MUCH!
The longest reigning monarch is actually King Sobhuza II of Eswatini who ruled for almost 83 years.
You're right. I forgot about him. I quickly referenced the Wikipedia list but they didn't include him since Swaziland was part of the British Empire for most of his reign. Imo, his reign still counts though. I probably need to do a video on the longest reigning monarchs so I can research the topic more.
Baring in mind he had his coronation in 1921 and died in 1982, the math doesn't add up.
@@darthsawlex8257 Louis XIV and Franz Joseph also had a regent and didn't get crowned till adulthood, and still the figures he gave included the regency period. Not to say your point isn't valid, just wanted to clarify. But what better than a video dedicated to the subject to cover all these quirks?
Coronation in 1921 but king from 1899.
@@UsefulCharts Was he really King though if he wasn't coronated. And if he was, why doesn't Wikipedia show him?
The Thai Ayutthaya Dynasties also interesting, you could do that after you run out of the diagram
I do wonder about the family dynamics in that particular royal family.
Thailand's royal fam got some DRAMA
Not only that but full of lies and distortions too.
Is it possible if you make a video about Malaysia's royal family tree?
The information is pretty accurate.
Good job.
Do the whole Thai royal family tree please
To have an idea of what may happen in the future, let's say that the current King is the thai version of Caligula.
Probebly Prince Dipangkorn. He has Royal blood in his veins. Besides he is a male heir and upon 1000 years of tradition he has the most prominent claim to the throne. Since he is only 14 it would be considered wise to (if anything would happen to King Rama X) install princess Bairakityabha as acting regent on behalve of the then Rama XI until he is able to fulfill his duty when he is of age and able to rule the country as head of state. Please comment I'm interested in other opinions towards the matter.
I believe that this is the most likely case
How does he have more royal blood than any of Rama X's 4 other sons?
Can you please do the Vietnam Monarchy
Quite complicated but worth a try.
Sri Lankan Royal Family Tree is much older (around 2500 years), with written sources and is related to Indian Royal Family Tree. Your chart is misleading due to this. Hope you could do something about this.
LONG LIVE THE KING and LONG LIVE THE FUTURE KING Dipi.
The eldest should rule so that queen Elizabeth definitely wins the longest reigning monarch prize
I think the best option for the heir to the Thai throne is to take a page out of the UK's book and go for non gender preference primogeniture.
Queen Elizabeth The Great did surpass King Bhumibol The Great as the 2nd longest reigning monarch, and passed away peacefully on 8th September 2022
Good information. And i hope, you also can make royal Malay family tree, which is related to Malaysia, Brunei and Indonesia.
How do you make these charts? They're very in detail
I think Thailand needs to do something or they might have a war or succession crisis after Vajiralongkorn is gone.
That will be VERY difficult. As stated, the four sons from the second wife are currently disowned and stripped of their titles. With the youngest son being heir presumptive, at this point, it's really anyone's guess. I would hope that they four sons would retain their titles...but with the lives they've built for themselves, they'd have to make a transition and I can only imagine that said transition will be very complicated. That's just my take on it from where I'm standing.
Now there is a protest to make the king to be under the law. But the military straight up spanked a emergency law to dismiss the protester
BTW, if you have/haven't seen the 1956 movie or the DreamWorks 1999 animated adaptation of *"The King and I",* I'd highly recommend it to anyone who might be able to guess where Useful Charts is referring to at the moment, *King Rama IV/Mongkut of Siam.*
you nice keep going~~ (from a thai person)
Where can I watch Malaysian Royal Family Tree? Thank you in advance.
Can you also talk about the Vietnamese royal family and who it could be today?
The correctness of the information provided is very impressive. I confirm.
Thanks for the sharing I know nothing about the history of the Thai kingdom
I kinda want to see the lineage back to Ayutthaya or Sukhotai, but this is good too.
Nepal is one of those few countries who have been still holding their independent pride
Right... Only 5 countries in Asia
Japan China SouthKorea Napal and Thailand
And now Elizabeth is surpassed Rama IX
Overall of Thailand History, from Sukhothai to Rattanakosin, to occupy the throne by royal succession or enthroned, were familiar as other kingdoms. But there is one important point Thailand likes no others, is neither empiricism nor colonialism.
From this video, there are documentaries on the internet explaining why Thailand remains the only country in Southeast Asia not colonized by Europeans.
Lastly, everything single internal conflicts, just only one word from the king, whole country becomes peaceful as fast as blinking eyes.
FYI: generally my surname spelling is "Ittiwattana". But my surname was one of thousands royal given surname, spelling format, Chamberlain Office Announcement in 1917.
Soo amazing! Thanks for the video!
I truly understand it is very hard to pronounce thai names, I’m thai and somehow names can be very hard to say properly. You make a great vdo lol. Something here is new for me. (Because this is not what they taught us.)
Can you explain Pakubuwono Dinasty From Java Kingdom or Kraton Kasunanan Surakarta Hadiningrat? Thank you..
There are a legend that suggest the connection of Rama I to the lineage of King Ekathotsarot, the Ayutthayan king.
But the academics suggest it is mostly a later inventions to legitimize the dynasty.
About the end of Taksin, there are speculation about the issue of ethnicity of Taksin, as he is a Chinese descent.
Both Taksin and Rama I was served in a relatively high position in the Ayutthayan court, and both are close friend,
in fact, Taksin and Rama I fought side by side to unify the country after the fall of Ayutthaya by the Burmese.
But the people in the court most likely see Taksin as not suitable, or maybe not "Thai" enough to led the country as king.
Plus towards the end of Taksin's reign, there are report of him being insane, may be due to PTSD; one report suggested that he ordered that all monks must bow to him, which is a breach to a Buddhist tradition, that monk is superior than the everyone, include the position of the king.
At that time Rama I was sent by Taksin to conquer Cambodia, but have to retreat due to instability and insurgences around the capital. So, after defeated the rebellion, he ended up execute Taksin, and reign as king of the new dynasty.
Other alternative speculation suggested that he actually abdicate and became a monk, and lived in a monastery in the southern province of Nakhorn Sri Dharmaraj (this mostly due to the fact that Taksin son was appointed as a governor of Nakhorn Sri Dharmaraj during the reign of Rama I)
We love Chakri Dinasty 🙏🙏🙏❤️❤️❤️🇹🇭
can you do the Lao royal family tree?
possible accidental thrown coup 9:51
thank you form thailand
Who can tell me where to learn about the ancient kings. Like the broken sword king?
I'm Thai.
The 1st succession is our princess who is little sister of our king, not his children because she has the title of crown princess that received from our late king Rama IX. Btw, the royal family cannot accept woman to succeed to the throne.
The king 1st heir is prince Dipankorn not anyone else. We expect that prince Dipankorn will receive the title of crown prince later when he grow up or may be new son from our new queen. This will be judged by our king, later.
Those first 4 sons of our king is not count as our royal family any more. They not even have prince as their title as prince Dipankorn.
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About the mystery murder case of King Rama VIII, The case closed and sentenced to death the murderers who intruded the King's bedroom. Those are the palace staff who appointed by the revolutionaries.
Why the 4 sons do not count as Prince and Royal family again? Are they not from Vajiralongkorn's blood? How a father can do this to his sons?
So basically, Rama V had 77 children?
Yep
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The name of Siam was changed to Thailand in 1939. Actually, people of Siam or Siamese had called themselves as "Thai" which means "Free Man" since the ancient time, according to the memoir of Simon de la Loubère, French Diplomat who lived in Siam during the Ayutthaya period. There are many theories about the origin of the name "Siam" and why foreigners called this country as Siam. Many scholars had debated about the origin of the name "Siam" and said that this name may have originated from many languages, such as Pali (Suvannabhumi, "Land of Gold") or Sanskrit (Syama, "Dark"). Since the foreigners called this country as Siam, Siamese governments in the past used this name for trade and communication with other countries. The name was changed to "Thailand" or "Land of the Thais" in 1939 by the government under Nationalist Field Marshall Plaek Phibunsongkhram (1897 - 1964, Prime Minister 1938 - 1944 and 1948 - 1957) and Thailand has become the name of the country since then.
There was no Ayutthaya Dynasty. Ayutthaya was ruled by 5 dynasties, namely, Uthong, Suphannaphum, Sukhothai, Prasat Thong, and Ban Phlu Luang.