Lilium Jet achieves full transition on wings and canards
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- Опубликовано: 24 авг 2024
- Watch as Phoenix 2, our 5th Generation Technology Demonstrator, achieves full transition from hover to wing-borne flight on both the wings and canards.
The full transition flight behaved precisely as our models predicted - representing a further validation of the flight physics computational models and technological approach that are the basis of our production aircraft, the Lilium Jet.
Flight details:
Flight Test Objective: Full Transition
Aircraft: Phoenix 2 Technology Demonstrator
Pilot: Remote
Location: ATLAS Flight test center, Spain
Propulsion: 36 electric engines 
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After researching many EVTOLs, this seems the most practical. Very excited to see this company innovating
This and Joby aircraft seem to be the most survivable eVTOL concepts to date.
@@tiutran2610 I think you are right .... BUT .... Archer and evex is doin OK
I still lean towards a static design (e.g. octocopter). But i have come around to the servo idea a fair bit. At first i was quite skeptical because of the moving part.
However the prize of having normal winged flight is nice. A multirotor can't do that it's eternally suck in a poor flight mode.
Ultimately i think the extra power needed for a static aircraft is worth it. With multirotor you are able to go in any direction instantly, winged aircraft can't.
Have you seen jetoptera and mad bat?
@@LegendLength I was and still am a bit skeptical of the tilting mechanism, but i also had this thought - there are electric servos that move huge control surfaces on big jets with much higher load and they move them a LOT during each flight. So it will probably be fine.
I just love what you're doing with Lilium. It's always great to see the progress in the videos. Can't wait to be in one of the jets!
....hope You will not die in one .....completely senseless project it needs 20 x - times STRONGER batteries, which do not exist .....
Would be great if we invest in them by buying some shares.
@@davidcharles223 I will, in the very near future
Are you a bot ? 😮 You talk like one wtf
Do you need a polits license?
This is by far the most practical 'personal flyer' I've seen.
So you have never seen an helicopter?
🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
@@nostro1940 Helicopters are way too difficult to fly. Lilum all day.
for sure and it doesn't sound like a flea market drone you bought for $10
Wow! Looks like it's achieving laminar flow over wings, that's very good see! Congrats you guys, thanks for keeping us posted on the progress!
So many questions left still:
Whether or not this could perform in high DA environments, altitude restrictions, performance and envelope?
Too much unknown. Super cool concept though
on the rear wing it looked fine, but on the front canards even @~100kts the flow looked rather turbulent.
Not over the front nacelles they weren't. Very rarely they were. GOOD DAY TO YOU SIR! I...SAID...GOOD.....DAY!
I agree, Troy! Wow, just wow!!!!😂🤪
They did not achieve laminar flow over the engine pod and forward flight, it was defeated 20/30 degrees but they are getting there
The vertical landing was stupendous…. Even if it isn’t the “first ever” 🥰🍺🍺
I agree, the landing looked perfect!
@@CrashTestDummi Yeah it doesn't look like a glider (looks can be deceiving), and if one side of those engines failed thing would perform the best dynamic rollover ever. Don't take away from the fact that this was a perfect exhibition and that he absolutely buttered the shit out of that landing.
@@CrashTestDummi It has 36 motors, so it'd probably be okay if 1 went out. I'd be interested in seeing videos of various engine failure scenario tests, if it's at all safe to do so.
@@EncrypticMethods I don't think an thrust motor failed, since they have a lot for redundancy. My worry is about the tilt motor failing which I am not sure how they have a safety or redundancy for that ? like if one failed or was stuck in one position that would be disastrous. Though I am looking forward to how they address that. But have to say I am impressed so far. Looks cool too.
Good point
Amazing! 112 mph and straight strings. Well done Lilium.
I must have missed that bit, never saw straight strings on the canards.
@@dougaltolan3017 1:28 min
@@jannikweisser Ahh, thanks, I must have blinked.
Shame that this video dosent show that as a stable, maintained state, as the title suggests.
hopefully that isn't the upper end of it's envelope.
Did we watch the same video?
Geeking out SO HARD over this video. Congrats Team Lilium!
Big congratulations for pulling off such graceful and elegant design into the light, absolutely delightful to watch, looks like a fun to fly as well. The future sky is yours.
Till it get shot out to the sky near Texas
@@outlawcustoms132 Dang, completely forgot about that, need a special "No Fly Zone In Case Of Ranchers Calling It UFO And Attempt To Shoot Down" :D (Already you gave away too much fuel for comedians :D)
Well, the future sky is theirs if only one of those craft are in operation. How will we manage those skies if there are hundreds of them zipping here, there and in and out?
@@virginiamoss7045 Probably the same way we manage traffic on the roads, although without traffic jams.
@@Kombivar Roads are two-dimensional; these marvels are three-dimensional, not at all the same.
That's just awesome to watch.
Been checking everyday for updates for months. Finally the waiting is worth it. Good to see you guys again.
Now all they need are impossible physics so they can scale this up.
@@stargazer7644 Let's look forward to get on that magnificent level of travelling
@@Mrasdwin It's going to take a lot more than hope and wishes to make this thing a reality.
@@stargazer7644 It is. I'd like to be the part of making this thing into reality
Congratulations! You have by far the best architecture I have seen for an electric VTOL jet. Exciting to see the steady progress you are making.
Not really a jet. Those are ducted fans.
@@cypvh74 jet seems like a descriptive enough term for an electric plane with ducted fans to me. Wouldn’t be descriptive enough if you’re talking about planes in general, but if you specify electric I feel like it works.
They are Dysons best fans......lol
@@MotorcycleWrites No it's an electric ducted fan, not a jet engine
@@kkuhn I am aware of that. I’m saying that “electric jet engine” is descriptive enough. You’re not going to get “electric jet” confused with a different kind of engine, and it does describe what’s happening (creating a jet of air with electricity).
I’m aware that it is a different kind of engine to a gas-turbine powered engine. I’m just saying that “electric jet” could only refer to an electric ducted fan, so it works as a descriptor.
This is a beautiful piece of engineering, truly the achievement of a lifetime. We're super proud of what you have accomplished! Flight durations will improve also, as batteries improve. Very exciting days ahead!
Batteries are currently at a limit. With lithium being the best chemical for batteries out there, it has a limit of charge per mass of lithium.
So unless we find a new magical element that can hold more charge.... don't get your hopes up about range. Only way to improve range is more batteries
Are you their parent to be proud of them?
@@wildwilco Aluminium, 3 times the ions of lithium and it's abundant.
@@123Andersonev yet nobody makes aluminium batteries...
its nickel cadmium, lead acid, lithium (polymer/ion).
solid metal batteries is something we allready tested, and they never have the capacity, or the power output.
@@wildwilco there's a company in Australia already on it, but yes they aren't mainstream yet, you can get aluminium button batteries already.
How efficient can this be when, even at 175Kph in level flight, the airflow over the front propulsion naceles is turbulent (stalled)? That's a massive amount of induced drag.
They were stalled because they were still thrusting down at high AOA
@@stargazer7644 At 170Kph in forward flight I would expect a much lower AOA (ie: unstalled) for efficient flight. It seemed that because they were relying on thrust vectoring for pitch control using the canard the airflow was very rarely laminar over those front engine nacelles.
@@xjet Yes, I agree. The front canards really don't seem to have much lifting surface. I don't think they're going fast enough to have much control authority with all of the nacelles pointing backward.
This design will glide about as well as the space shuttle. Also NOT A JET.
@@bradkubota6968 Regular passenger jet planes are not actually jets either, with the bypass ratio we have now a days. There's no point being pedantic about it. There's the colloquial "jet airplane" and actual "jet airplanes" and if you don't know enough about airplanes to know the difference, which is most people, it really doesn't matter what you call it anyway.
You guys are awesome! Already prepared my newly built house (GER-85375) with a roof strong enough so a Lillium Jet can land there 🥰😎
Adding a verified charger would be great, tho at first they only operate at their own Airport/Vertiport.
Sweet move, I have followed lilium for some time now and is my #1 choice just not financially in a place where I can make things like that happen.
...and I am putting a piece of sugar in the window and hope, a stork will find it ....... and so on ....Marc, - continue dreaming .....
@@helmutpohl2762 VTOL tech has been used since what the 80's so you think it's that far off when a guy can make a bathtub fly using drone tech?
@@kab3d3bmw VTOL isn't the problem... Doing it with batteries and having any sort of useful range or payload capacity on the other hand...
Wow that Jet took of brilliantly flew like a dream and landed better that a bird a totally brilliant demonstration from start to finish it was fantastic. Well done guys 😁👍
I'm thinking of all the computer simulation that it took before they even took to the sky. More than likely still very nervous who ever was flying it. Sounded awesome too.
it all looks like that till it goes horribly wrong. im referring the the flying car that was in a bond film.
Impressive with a perfect touch down. Crowd goes wild!
well done! big milestone towards the future of short range air travel
Yeah, short range is what this thing really excels in, Lol!
Love the combo of KM/H and FT/MIN
Welcome to the wonderful world of aviation units. :)
I couldn't agree more....They're flying the thing in imperial knots and feet, it's right in the audio and they are in Spain for gods sake. But displaying metric Klicks on their website. In 60 years of flying the free world I have never heard ATC ask for an airspeed in Klicks or an altitude in meters. And having been around airplanes for better than 70 years I have never seen an airspeed indicator graduated in Klicks or an altimeter graduated in meters, IN THE FREE WORLD. Who landed on the moon first? There was not one metric nut or bolt on Apollo 11. LOOSE the metric system! Let the Russians have it.
That looks amazing. The takeoff and landing were smooth as butter!
Excellent flight, so hats off to Lilium! I would also like to add that the statement on your website: "Zero operating emissions" reflects an honesty that I often miss with other manufacturers of EV's who claim "zero emissions". So, well done in that area too!
Where’s the pre-order link?
@agent Red, you would not be able to afford it!!
Where it at we need it
@@peterosmond5742 is that English?
You have 2.5 MUSD lying around?💰💰💰
@@julesdomes6064 possibly
It’s a promising future. You guys rock.🎉
Rich people hovering above the chaos... ahhh the future!
Did you watch a different video to me? All I saw were canards in complete stall at 170 kph - this thing has the glide profile of a rock, and that many electric motors just means more things to go wrong. This 'aircraft' will kill people, mark my words.
@@bashkillszombies Yeah, I saw the same video you did... with the really cool airplane. I still think the future is going to be dogshit.
This is some rich dudes toy. it isn't getting past that ever
@@shaynejenkins446 But the future will have canards! Canaaards!!
Great flight and beautifully stable and controlled landing. Although titled full transition the canard always seemed to be deflected some 20 -30 degrees and did not achieve laminar flow over the engine pod in forward flight. The constant movement also seemed to indicate that this is the primary pitch control surface. Does this reduce efficiency, especially in this most power hungry phase of flight?
My overarching concern is really with the performance in high DA settings. It doesn't seem like it will perform super well in its current iteration
Yes, I concur.
Ooga booga
Nose heavy.
The tell tales were running pretty straight for a little bit there. The problem was that most of the flight was take-off and landing.
By having your control surfaces combined with your thrust, it's very clear that it gives you an incredible amount of control, and allows for a very easy transitional phase of flight where you're not quite fast enough for all lift to come from your wings. While I initially wasn't convinced by that many engines being on an aircraft (more things that can go wrong, despite the extra redundancy), I can see that your design does have it's advantages.
the fact it has a "wing" gives me sense of security: if anything went wrong just turn off them and glide
hey, this guy wasn't initially convinced. you gotta work harder to convince Mikowmer on youtube comments. come on now.
These engines being electric means orders of magnitude reduction of complexity and chance of errors.
The converse is that by combining your control surfaces with your thrust you LOSE all control (and sustentation -ie 'anti gravity' forces ) when you lose power - and you then 'plummet' like a stone (to quote black adder 'the usual procedure,then, is to accelerate at 32 feet per second per second until meeting the surface and then distribute yourself over a considerable area of the countryside") The complete flow separation over vast areas of the canard and wings would normally precede a violent roll off and loss of control,spin etc but in this case NOTHING - indicating that the whole thing is 'flying' on sheer brute force provided by the fans inside the ducts . Something like a total of 3000 horsepower is quoted (each fan being something like 100 HP - ONE of which should be about enough to fly an empty aircraft of this size at much higher speeds . An incredible feat indeed - to have so much power thrashing away but still only stagger around at miserable speeds making a godawful racket and turmoil . An amazing achievement (only possible because of those huge airbrake flaps in fact )
@@rossnolan7283 I was about to disagree with your assessment, then realised that you're correct.
However there are things preventing that failure condition (complete loss of thrust in all engines). For one, the redundency of the engines makes losing all engines at once due to engine issues highly unlikely. Secondly, there should be a redundent power supply onboard in case of main power supply failure which will mitigate that possible failure, similarly with redundent control systems.
In addition, just because the application of the principle is flawed in this scenario doesn't make it invalid. By integrating your thrust source into your control surfaces can help with control as you now have directional thrust. It's just that you shouldn't integrate your control surface into the thrust source (i.e. there should be some control surface that, even if it's the same control surface as the engine has been integrated into, still acts as a traditional control surface).
I can't wait to ride in a Lilium!! Beautiful landing!
Just amazing! Continue working the plan - its working.
Lilium Jet: f-a-n-t-a-s-t-i-c. Congratulations!!!!!!
Who would've thought of an airplane with engines that gimbal, absolutely brilliant, and revolutionary.
This is massive!
The approach gave me chills. Spectacular.
I was yelling at my monitor 'tip up!' but then it went to scene 2 showing he did have plenty of time and distance and needed that speed to get over there.. Radome ok, if it has one. lol : ) 👍
Looked flawless.
A wonderful test flight...I'm happy to see the idea of a tilting wing actually work
Actually looks fantastic. Great job. Much better than those clickbait videos where the aircraft is just a glorified quad drone.
Of all the 'flying car' designs, I like this one best
This thing is not a flying car, it's an overrated drone.
🎉yesss a full transition, that’s what’s up. You go Lilium.
Wow the work you guys are doing is awe inspiring! I hope to fly one of these some day!
The laminar flow over the wing is excellent. More to do on the canards, but very, very impressive👍
the landing was smooth
Great to see the progress! Thanks for sharing
Such a pleasantly stable landing. Hope this design takes off👍
Well, it already did...
@@smitty7510 Thats good good hear👍
Nice!!! Looks like fun. The transitions look great. Very smooth and stable.
Splendid!!! I pray for the team's continued success.
Outstanding flight, guys. Bravo!
Did you watch a different video to me? All I saw were canards in complete stall at 170 kph - this thing has the glide profile of a rock, and that many electric motors just means more things to go wrong. This 'aircraft' will kill people, mark my words.
@@bashkillszombies you should've been there when Wright brothers were doing their thing, your "advice" would've been invaluable to them, mark my words, WAC !
@@bashkillszombies if it was so dangerous as you said, something would've gone wrong immediately in this video, don't all aircrafts kill people when they crash?
@@bashkillszombies thanks for your input. let us know how your electric plane is doing
@@dr.wallacebreen3859 something is obviously wrong when you see an aircraft of this size can’t aerodynamically balance at that velocity (and without a payload). In this video, the canards are trying to balance the aircraft by a brute force thrusting downward instead of its aerodynamic surfaces doing their job during cruise. Hence proving the vehicle is unstable and makes bashprompts comment somewhat valid
What an unbelievable aircraft I love it what a great soft touchdown
So used to hearing military controllers barking commands or info to pilots I was almost lulled to sleep listening to this guy gently give input to the pilot. Was a great video and I'm pleased to see this aircraft move closer to being in a sales showroom!
just love the transparency of this company a real breath of fresh air
Fresh LOL
....for some minutes ...... this distance You can go better and cheaper with a bicycle ----> ´cause of not - existing strong batteries
@@helmutpohl2762 Lithium power density has gone from 50 watt / kg to 450, in a span of only 15 years. You can see it won't be long until there are good solutions for planes.
@@LegendLength you're mixing up different cell chemistries here. In practice there has been nothing like that gain in proven, reliable, safe battery technologies.
@@chimpana By 'lithium' i'm speaking of modern batteries in general. I'm not going to list all 100 different chemistries.
Not sure what you're trying to say exactly can you expand? It's a literal fact that batteries have improved density that much over 15 years.
Congrats Lilium team for this goal!
Very impressive, and what a landing!
This is so exciting! Love it, great job 👏 And my goodness, the terrain was stunning, too!
Love it! Congratulations on another successful flight!
First class engineering. And a perfect flight. Congratulations.
I wasn't expecting how relaxing this video was going to be.
Congrats, great to see more progress!
Wishing the team all the best gong forward!! Great progress!
And all the best in turning as well!!
I'm giving it a best gong forward also.
Looks amazing, congrats on your progress! :)
Yes! So cool to be alive during the birth of many different electric aircraft. Hopefully they can make a difference for the future.
Great job, keep improving.
Kudos! All in all a miraculous achievement.
I wish this team all the best!
This is astounding! Completely Jetsons no exposed propellers. Love it!
Haha... indeed, very Jetson-like! 👍
always nice to see new companys that arnt the old guys makeing changes to things. Great job!
P.S. Very impressive how quiet the vehicle is in flight! I would love to be a passenger on this. It LOOKS like it flies like a dream, and that landing was entirely gentle! Outstanding!
this thing might be a lot... but definetivly not quiet! it is terrible loud!
@@Alex-und-Flux it's funny how people see a video and assume the soundtrack is representative of what they'd hear.
@@chimpana have you ever been near of such a vehicle?Probably not.. i have been next to them an they are very loud!
@@Alex-und-Flux I was agreeing with you!
Great stuff!
I love this aircraft - so quiet too! Very cool!
My biggest concern with this design would be glide ratio. If you have complete engine loss, you have a lot of drag on top of the wings. It seems like that would be like having massive spoilers constantly raised, which would dramatically change the wing chord.
I would be really interested to see wind tunnel results of the wing with engines off.
Some top tier engineering behind that. Impressive.
Looks super stable, genius work!!
Would be great to see the current consumption and battery capacity + range calculations
This is first and foremost a marketing video lol
Five minutes at 100km/h is about an 8km range. lol
Only the parts that are impressive is presented.
Amazing flight demonstration! Really looking forward to production model in flight test
As a fixed wing pilot, I find it just mesmerizing to watch. I cannot get over how quickly it slows down from flight speed. Full 90 degree flaps while thrust vectoring is crazy effective!
Great job, this is almost Star Trek level.
It was unfortunate that the hundreds of remora fish mistakenly thought this amazing vehicle was a shark.
They sure hung on for dear life as they were blowing around in the wind though.
Congratulations on your wonderful invention.
That is the most amazing and exciting plane I've seen in my life. Great job. Congratulations!
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
since the weather for this flights is always early morning with no winds and no clouds, this 5th demos shows, that this is still in an extrem early stage.
Absolutely amazing as long as you only want to fly to things that are in walking distance.
You have to walk before you run. This won’t be where they are in 5-10-20 years.
I’m just shocked it’s taken so long to integrate motors into a machine rather than strap them on.
Congratulations to you all.✈️⭐
Unlike many others, this looks like a solid concept and design. Glad to see it test flying
that's not a concept/design. Concepts and designs are nice 3D graphic randers by modern day snake oil salesmen.
That in the video? Looks like a fully working prototype!
Now... I got to Google wtf I just watched and if it's actually effective at what it aims.... wth does it aim?
@@ThatGoat No. Good products need prototypes, prototypes need designs and designs need concepts. They may start with renders (not randers) but every good product will have to start with a good concept. This is indeed a promising prototype, the team behind it look professional, but the concept and design also seem to be good, unlike many others I have seen.
@@sudosu4133 oh well 30 seconds of googling put this into the EV trash can.... I really liked the thing before learning it's another EV revolution gong pile.
Energy density per kg way too low for any practical use.
Part of me excited. Part of me is thinking it's 2023 and we're still using fans as propulsion.
Congrats, Lillium! I’m an investor and it makes me happy to see the progress you are making! Keep on keepin’ on! 🍀🤞🏻
......climbing into a jetson flying home, ordering a black fly. 😂
Seems much quieter than drone type with their propellers. Is it so and how is this noise reduction achieved?
Very interesting video with the amazing progress! Could you add battery status or at least rate of discharge to see the difference between hover and forward flight.
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If they did that it might scare off investors. Lol. These companies never give out the info that actually matters.
This thing, with a ballistic parachute, is good to go to market right now.
Amazing. Love it. I'd bulge out the top area where the motors are. Maximize lift. My fav concept right now. Love you guys.
Very nice and quick take off and landing! The acceleration to maximum speed was very impressive and astounding!
The master piece! 🎊 🎉 Congratulations
FTE Dude was super smooth and concise
Interesting design, very
Smooth flight, and landing.
Test pilots job is so cool.
Keep us updated, nice1. 👍
That was so awesome 😎✌️
Go TEAM LILIUM..The world leaders in the future of air mobility...🌏🛸💚
Lilium you’re going to rule the skies!
I just love the sound of the radio talk
Impressive! This jet is better suited for inter-city/suburb commutes rather than intra-city short trips. Volocopter is better suited for shorter trips within cities.
great progress guys...congrats to the team
Ok, what's the downside? Range? Flight duration? Payload? Recharge time? How do the electronics/engines do flying through rain? You have to start somewhere and they're certainly doing it here for sure but I went to their site and couldn't get any of the above information.
That beautiful take off, transitions and landing do make you forget about how expensive those 36 engines must be in both upfront cost and maintenance.
Generally speaking, electric motors need little to no maintenance. At least when compared to gas turbine engines.
I love Lithium. Great stuff that makes you forget about everything.
looks really clean! good job team !
Beautiful flying sculpture. I’m ready to order mine!
You must be rich!
Its ugly and is gonna kill people. But its never goin past just being a rich dudes toy. So no you wont be ordering one.
thanks for keeping us posted on the progress
Now THAT looked just like perfectly-controlled flight to me. Cheers.
This is really impressive! Good on you guys
The flight controls are the rotation and thrust of each four ducted fans groups. Any redundancy with these controls?
They made that landing look easy! 😳
Congrats 🎉 that was awesome! Now 👏 please 👏 don’t 👏 stop 👏 iterating 👏
Specs? Cruising speed? Range, duration? Payload?