+fundhund62 Borg and McEnroe were actually friends when they were playing ... Mcenroe said he respected and admired Borg greatly and Borg made Mcenroe his best man during his wedding ... I heard its not the culture during those days of the 70s-80s to make friends on the tennis tour so its should be no surprise if players are not having much friends during those days, it was the culture then ... they felt the need maintain a distance with their competitors .. BUT nowadays its different, Nadal and Fed have ushered in a new culture of being warm and polite despite being competitive with each other, so people like Soderling being unfriendly sticks out like a sore thumb ...
They did have respect for each other. It was just an uncomfortable rivalry. Many years later after Soderling retirement, he still kept following Nadal matches and posted many congratulations on Nadal achievements. I think he was so proud as the guy who stopped Nadal run on French open.
Nadal often uses way more time than he should be allowed to in his preparation. If this started as a reaction to that, I can understand Söderling. The refs are more lenient with the biggest stars too.
Himanshu Gupta Nadal didnt ban that umpire because he gave him some time violations (in fact many referees have given him time violations) but because there was an incident in Rio i think it was 2016 when Nadal asked the umpire to change his shorts with the use of a towel but he didnt let him which was a bad call. Also he had done some mistakes in previous matches like the one against Berdych in 2010 Atp finals. Nadal never gets angry or has any tantrums on the court and is always respectful towards the crowd and his opponents so calling him a tantrum queen only makes you look ignorant and stupid. Saying that you can see why Soderling reacted this way just shows that you dislike Nadal. I mean what justified Soderling's behaviour; The fact that Nadal showed him the ball which he is obligated to do when they are about to play with new balls;
@@hippios noe that there is a watch... We all can keep the count... If someone tells you , you can not exceed the time that means you must be provided with a watch to count that otherwise, to count 1 2 3 in your mind while serving in a match with huge pressure sounds nonsense..... At first there was no watch (now they have instlaled it, which is a kore specific way & transparent) NADAL was a victim of this unfair situation as he spends already 8 seconds to perform some steps...becuase he sweats so much & he also has some unique behaviours before serving......... It is indivudual's choice & comfort level...a boy who has built up a habit which is more than a habit, it is unfair to judge him with that.... Now, after 8secs he focuses on the ball, drops it more than 5times it take much time than others & that sucks alllllllllll Nadal does not do all these to disturb others..they shoukd have remain respected about others style..... KARMA is a thing that no one can exceed even if anyone wants.. If someone is really fake & bad he would never be continuously fabulous & successful..never.. & As success is one thing that is well distributed to him it is useless to provoke gossip about that person... Which is wrong is wrong.. If someone is wrong he would get his repayment.. We do not need to be experts.....
The thing is that Nadal was not the "good" guy in this rivalry at all, neither of them were. Soderling went back to get a new racket because there were new balls. This annoyed Nadal so he decided to be smart right before serving by interrupting and showing that there were new balls. This annoyed Soderling so he decided to imitate Nadal. Nadal thought that Soderling was rude because he didn't apologize after hitting the net or saying hello sometimes, and Soderling probably though Nadal was unsportsmanlike for taking an ungodly amount of time between points and excessive celebrations. Nadal then intentionally tried to hit Soderling with the ball as seen in this video. I think Soderling was annoyed of Nadal's "nice guy" act or at least he perceived it like that. Nadal was annoyed because he wanted everyone to like him.
limy Oh so you mean to say everyone should hate a perfectly humble sportsman who has never broken a racket (Federer has btw) just because of his ocd routine?
The True essence of Sportsmen is that they just do the talking on the court through playing and Respecting your opponent. Not by insulting with words or gestures. That can come back to haunt you via Karma. And you will not succeed.
nadal just showed soderling that he is serving with new balls, but obviously soderling knew that already cause that was the reason he changed his racket. federer does the same thing also, when there are new balls, he changes his racket 1 game before he starts to serve
Not saying I agree with Soderling tugging on his pants to imitate Nadal, but I will admit he had balls for doing so. I can't imagine many (if any) other ATP players would have the stones to try and get under Nadal's skin like that.
@Justin Webster Yeah and Federer beat him later ... also next year they met at the final of French Open and Nadal destroyed him in straight sets ... meanwhile Soderling has 0 grand slams and Nadal has 15 and counting ... Soderling is just a loudmouth that cannot put his money where his mouth is
Söderling wasn't a hater. He was annoyed though that Rafa always took such a long time to prepare between points, longer than the rules allowed him to. Söderling was annoyed that Rafa got away with it too often. I love both Rafa and Söderling! Great players and characters. Robin Söderling is a really great guy privately and it's such a shame he had to end his career prematurely.
What Mcenroe said isn´t true. He had friends on the tour. Söderling was competitive and had no respect for the big names. He played them like he played any other guy. For me as a Swede this attitude is refreshing, since We are famous in tennis to be nice guys, Wilander and Edberg for example.
so what guys i like this rivalry , not everybody has to be a gentleman on this sport.... besides wtf is John Enroe saying he and borg had the most tighest rivarly in tennis history
mock this man all you want but he is the only reason your beloved federer was able to complete his career grand slam or he'd still be a 38 year old dude with a shitload of slams but no roland garros lol
Marklion Janecek yeah if nadal won then federer would have been in those list of players who have n no of grndslams 7... 14 without french open just like mcenroe and pete sampras. Thn it would have been a player with 19 slams wthout career grandslam
Can Nadal not play without all this grunting and pre-serve routine? It is really annoying to me as a viewer, I can't imagine what it would be like if I were his opponent.
lol everybody just sucks up to the champion because they are all sheeps following the flock, I root for the underdog... especially because he's a fkking MONSTER o nthe court, and underappreciated... GO SOLDERLING!!
Soderling didnt like nadal because nadal always takes too long between points, a cheater. And in rome 2009 the umpire was wrong. The ball was out, and the umpire pointed at a footstep saying the ball was in. It felt like Nadal knew about that, and yet didn't do anything to change the umpire's bad ruling. Nadal is the bad guy, not Soderling. SWEDEN FTW
@@Maaden84 Soderling didnt like nadal because nadal always takes too long between points, a cheater. And in rome 2009 the umpire was wrong. The ball was out, and the umpire pointed at a footstep saying the ball was in. It felt like Nadal knew about that, and yet didn't do anything to change the umpire's bad ruling. Nadal is the bad guy, not Soderling. SWEDEN FTW
"Soderling has not a whole lot of friends on the tour" .. says John McEnroe ROFL!!
Fundhund, please stop talking. You are only embarassing yourself.
+Rob Hoiting The run-of-the-mill arrogant RUclips comment.
Seriously?!
Go on.
+fundhund62
Borg and McEnroe were actually friends when they were playing ... Mcenroe said he respected and admired Borg greatly and Borg made Mcenroe his best man during his wedding ...
I heard its not the culture during those days of the 70s-80s to make friends on the tennis tour so its should be no surprise if players are not having much friends during those days, it was the culture then ... they felt the need maintain a distance with their competitors .. BUT nowadays its different, Nadal and Fed have ushered in a new culture of being warm and polite despite being competitive with each other, so people like Soderling being unfriendly sticks out like a sore thumb ...
everybody loved mcenroe though
They did have respect for each other. It was just an uncomfortable rivalry. Many years later after Soderling retirement, he still kept following Nadal matches and posted many congratulations on Nadal achievements. I think he was so proud as the guy who stopped Nadal run on French open.
Vamoooooooooos Rafaaaaaaa Forever ❤ Grasius for all you are giveing to this beautiful Sport
rafa the ass-scratcher is a disgrace to tennis
@@sf4450 you're incorrect.
People who disrespects Nadal often get destroyed by him afterwards. I mean look at rosol, soderling berdych and now kyrgios.
You could say the reverse though, Nadal disrespected him in 2007 Wimbledon and then received the worst loss of his career against soderling in 2009
Nadal often uses way more time than he should be allowed to in his preparation. If this started as a reaction to that, I can understand Söderling. The refs are more lenient with the biggest stars too.
Himanshu Gupta Nadal didnt ban that umpire because he gave him some time violations (in fact many referees have given him time violations) but because there was an incident in Rio i think it was 2016 when Nadal asked the umpire to change his shorts with the use of a towel but he didnt let him which was a bad call. Also he had done some mistakes in previous matches like the one against Berdych in 2010 Atp finals. Nadal never gets angry or has any tantrums on the court and is always respectful towards the crowd and his opponents so calling him a tantrum queen only makes you look ignorant and stupid. Saying that you can see why Soderling reacted this way just shows that you dislike Nadal. I mean what justified Soderling's behaviour; The fact that Nadal showed him the ball which he is obligated to do when they are about to play with new balls;
Mom's spaghetti i don’t think we will never see Nadal smashing a racket on the court and in front of everybody. Tantrum queen? That’s laughable.
@ensayofr 25 seconds. nadal always exceeds time limit
@@hippios noe that there is a watch...
We all can keep the count...
If someone tells you , you can not exceed the time that means you must be provided with a watch to count that otherwise, to count 1 2 3 in your mind while serving in a match with huge pressure sounds nonsense.....
At first there was no watch (now they have instlaled it, which is a kore specific way & transparent) NADAL was a victim of this unfair situation as he spends already 8 seconds to perform some steps...becuase he sweats so much & he also has some unique behaviours before serving.........
It is indivudual's choice & comfort level...a boy who has built up a habit which is more than a habit, it is unfair to judge him with that....
Now, after 8secs he focuses on the ball, drops it more than 5times it take much time than others & that sucks alllllllllll
Nadal does not do all these to disturb others..they shoukd have remain respected about others style.....
KARMA is a thing that no one can exceed even if anyone wants..
If someone is really fake & bad he would never be continuously fabulous & successful..never..
& As success is one thing that is well distributed to him it is useless to provoke gossip about that person...
Which is wrong is wrong..
If someone is wrong he would get his repayment..
We do not need to be experts.....
@ensayofr lol, are you joking. Read the rules billy
The thing is that Nadal was not the "good" guy in this rivalry at all, neither of them were. Soderling went back to get a new racket because there were new balls. This annoyed Nadal so he decided to be smart right before serving by interrupting and showing that there were new balls. This annoyed Soderling so he decided to imitate Nadal. Nadal thought that Soderling was rude because he didn't apologize after hitting the net or saying hello sometimes, and Soderling probably though Nadal was unsportsmanlike for taking an ungodly amount of time between points and excessive celebrations. Nadal then intentionally tried to hit Soderling with the ball as seen in this video. I think Soderling was annoyed of Nadal's "nice guy" act or at least he perceived it like that. Nadal was annoyed because he wanted everyone to like him.
Finally, someone with a common sense. Nadal is the biggest hypocrite in the history of the sport.
That is the biggest pile of shit of an opinion I've seen for a while, wow
I approve of the both comments stated up there. 👍
Commentators are making such a big fuss. They sound like WWF commentators.
whats wrong with touching your ass?
limy Oh so you mean to say everyone should hate a perfectly humble sportsman who has never broken a racket (Federer has btw) just because of his ocd routine?
The True essence of Sportsmen is that they just do the talking on the court through playing and Respecting your opponent. Not by insulting with words or gestures.
That can come back to haunt you via Karma. And you will not succeed.
Rafa does none of those things, guess the karma is attacking his growing bald spot
@@Maaden84 he's in his Agassi mode dude, chill out
@@Maaden84 you must feel stupid now
Federer fans love Soderling
The reverse can be said as well that only Nadal fans hate Söderling.
nadal just showed soderling that he is serving with new balls, but obviously soderling knew that already cause that was the reason he changed his racket. federer does the same thing also, when there are new balls, he changes his racket 1 game before he starts to serve
yeah, Nadal was trying to be cute because Soderling was aggravating him, (because Nadal is a sensitve guy) so Robin fired back at him.
Soderling gave federer a chance to win fo
Not saying I agree with Soderling tugging on his pants to imitate Nadal, but I will admit he had balls for doing so. I can't imagine many (if any) other ATP players would have the stones to try and get under Nadal's skin like that.
What differs Nadal and Soderling if we speak just about sport? 20 Grand Slams.
21
22
And a whole lot of dope
Soderling really hates Rafa
Soderling is a cunt. End of the story
No, i didn`t address my comment to anyone. I was making an objective statement about Soderling. Nothing else bro
Why ? Not understand this hate.
Abel Mouriño so is rosol
@Cyril Dorricott Except they are the worst kind of fans.Soderling gets hate from me as well,djoker fan.
It's okay, Rafa has 14 grand slams and is superior to Soderling in every way.
soderling wins this match. advantage soderling
Don X < pusseling went down in the 2010 French Open and no one remembers his name any longer
Don X < couldn't agree more
rubiks mentor 15 now
@Justin Webster Yeah and Federer beat him later ... also next year they met at the final of French Open and Nadal destroyed him in straight sets ... meanwhile Soderling has 0 grand slams and Nadal has 15 and counting ... Soderling is just a loudmouth that cannot put his money where his mouth is
Söderling wasn't a hater. He was annoyed though that Rafa always took such a long time to prepare between points, longer than the rules allowed him to. Söderling was annoyed that Rafa got away with it too often.
I love both Rafa and Söderling! Great players and characters. Robin Söderling is a really great guy privately and it's such a shame he had to end his career prematurely.
They must have put aside there differences cause Söderling has recently said nice things about nadal
He didnt say anything bad back then, only rafa did cause söderling didnt allow him to enter the court last. Big baby rafa
@@Maaden84 the sources? i didn't remember that, prove your words dumbass
21 Grand Slam for Nadal... Soderling stil a grand slam virgin...
22
Warm
What Mcenroe said isn´t true. He had friends on the tour. Söderling was competitive and had no respect for the big names. He played them like he played any other guy. For me as a Swede this attitude is refreshing, since We are famous in tennis to be nice guys, Wilander and Edberg for example.
Soderling è un ottimo giocatore, forse un po' geloso dei successi di Nadal. Credo che nelle giornate buone Soderling potesse battere chiunque
so what guys i like this rivalry , not everybody has to be a gentleman on this sport.... besides wtf is John Enroe saying he and borg had the most tighest rivarly in tennis history
Don't make Soderling mad. He will beat you at the FO even Nadal.
NADAL IS TOO GOOD, eh? that's why soderling gets mad, like most of them, NADAL has NO mercy
He really is not
Who is Soderling? Lol
mock this man all you want but he is the only reason your beloved federer was able to complete his career grand slam or he'd still be a 38 year old dude with a shitload of slams but no roland garros lol
Not enough people acknowledge this
Cry
I miss Robinhood!
Glad Soderling won.
Marklion Janecek yeah if nadal won then federer would have been in those list of players who have n no of grndslams 7... 14 without french open just like mcenroe and pete sampras. Thn it would have been a player with 19 slams wthout career grandslam
Sitaram Emani 😂 was really lucky for him that nadal loss
Who is Soderling?
@GTS here you're again f***er
@GTS lol, Soderling beat nadal when nadal was on PEDS
soderlingh must be federer s best friend atleat
Yeah until 2009. Soderling dumped Federer out in 2010 and reached the Roland Garros final
soderling is based
It is not true that Soderling does not have a lot of friends on the tour.
Can Nadal not play without all this grunting and pre-serve routine? It is really annoying to me as a viewer, I can't imagine what it would be like if I were his opponent.
Soderling. BatSh##
lol everybody just sucks up to the champion because they are all sheeps following the flock, I root for the underdog... especially because he's a fkking MONSTER o nthe court, and underappreciated... GO SOLDERLING!!
Igor had 9 dollars in his hand.
If Igor gave 3 dollars for every pixel in this video, how many dollars would Igor have Remaining
1 dollar 25 cent?
santomkd math?
This is a tennis video.
People over here be disrespecting Söderling saying he disrespected Nadal.
Awnser is very simple.soderling was the reason for Federer completing career slam which always is reason for which Federer is put greater than Nadal
Federer was always greater
I would say Nadal got his revenge. Nadal 15 grand slams Soderling 0 and washed up off the tour well before 30
John Iii medical conditions, very ignorant remark to make kid.
16 Grand slams
Alexander 17 grand slams
Alexander 17
Akash Gupta where’s the 18???? Lol lost to Novak again!
@RafaNadal: you can have all the titles of the world, but if you don't respect the unwritten rules of fairplay, you will never be the greatest
Except he has the best fair play,he never disrespects his opponents and praises them the most...
@@aleksamilosevic8792 99% would disagree with you
@@robinhozinho7853 Him hugging delpo after the loss at wimbledon,him acnkowelding how good djoker was at doha 2016 etc.
@@aleksamilosevic8792 sometimes there are exceptions
@@aleksamilosevic8792 lol, you are joking right?
Soderling didnt like nadal because nadal always takes too long between points, a cheater. And in rome 2009 the umpire was wrong. The ball was out, and the umpire pointed at a footstep saying the ball was in. It felt like Nadal knew about that, and yet didn't do anything to change the umpire's bad ruling.
Nadal is the bad guy, not Soderling. SWEDEN FTW
Soderling, unlike Nadal, will never be and has never been a great player because he only knows how to respect the opponent when he wins.
soderling is a disgrace. karma got him ;)
Not at all, but nice try
Hey, that's my namesake you're talking about!
But to be frank, he did act like a douche.
Here, I hate Nadal too.
And whats about Soderling now? the worst shet in the world
limy You right but the personality of Soderling was the worst in tennis
You really dont know anything, but nice try
So Nadal beats him at Rome that year only dropping a game, loses to him at the French and people blame it on injury. Hmmm?
He always blame injury when he lose, the pussy of the tennis, rafa the assgrabber
@@Maaden84 Soderling didnt like nadal because nadal always takes too long between points, a cheater. And in rome 2009 the umpire was wrong. The ball was out, and the umpire pointed at a footstep saying the ball was in. It felt like Nadal knew about that, and yet didn't do anything to change the umpire's bad ruling.
Nadal is the bad guy, not Soderling. SWEDEN FTW
Well, Söderling went on to develop chronic mono that killed his career. So I️ guess you could say that karma did him justice ;)
you are discusting
Thats the way a guy convicted for rape would reason, well done keegan, dont bend over in the showers when you serve
Nadal bump to Rosol. and lost. arrogant gamesmanship cheater