How To Fix A Bad Reloading Die
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Yes to the bushing selection video Piet.
Excellent tip, it never occurred to me to polish the chamber of a die, but it makes so much sense...I have seized cases in dies before and it makes for a bad day.
I use Brownell's 555 White. Then Red Jeweler's Rouge, and finally the Blue Jeweler's Rouge.
Good stuff! Surprised at the poor QC on that die.
me too when you see the price of these dies compared to a "entry level" dies
My thoughts exactly. Ive used a lot of cheap dies but never seen one that nasty looking.
Johnney's reloading bench had the same problem. Got cases stuck, everything. Had to send the die back to Redding.
I use flitz or JB Bore past with a bore mop, of appropriate caliber, 12ga or so and drill. Also a bore scope.
I have exactly the same issue with my Redding 6.5 PRC FL sizing die and was going to polish it too. Not impressed at all as was going to buy Hornady dies but a friend convinced me to pay more for Redding as he said they were better. Scratched up all my lovely new Norma and Bertram brass! Great vid mate, keep up the good work!
I have a Lee 223 die that was a bit rough when I got it.
I made a whip using a piece of. 25 inch brass round bar.
Slice the round bar length wise .375 to .50 deep using a cut off wheel ,or a hacksaw if its all you have. Use red or green scotchbrite .cut little strips and insert into the slots in the brass.
Run it in a pneumatic die grinder or dremmel. This is an old machinist trick.
You can lube with hornady 1 shot, or WD works fine .
This will polish your die as smooth as a babys ars, and your brass wil be silky smooth.
My Redding Dasher die is rough too, and yes I stuck a number of cases when I got it. Thought I was doing something wrong😣 Thanks for the tip!
Had the same issue with a Redding 300 Blackout sizing die. Used a chamber mop and some mothers polish to fix it.
I have used Widden, Redding, Forster, and Hornady dies, and Redding is my favorite. Hopefully, they get this corrected so it doesn't happen again.
I also polish the expander button with autosol and a cleaning patch. I put the de-capping/ expander stem in my drill and hold the patch with autosol against the expander button and give it a spin for a minute or 2. The button looks like chrome after and slides through the case necks with less resistance.
Yes this! Done the same with my Hornady expander. I feel like it gets it closer to a higher grade expander.
For sure would like to see how you select your bushings in a seperate video
Cool tip. Appreciate the vid.
Daai het perfek gewerk. Dit was lekker om jou die naweek op die baan te ontmoet. As als goed gaan skiet ek dalk eendag saam met julle ouens, of teen julle. Ek sal net eers vir so 10 jaar moet oefen.
If you want to show the inside of the die, a bore scope would be the best bet.
Would be worth getting some long dremel polishing mops.
My RCBS die had a bur in it and had to sand it down with 1000grit. Now I going follow this to polish it.
Had two Redding dies that were like this. Sad for the price 😱😂, thank you for the info and vid. Will give this a try if i come across this again 🙂. Really enjoying you're reloading online course too, thank you 🙂
Exact same thing happened to me with a brand new Redding die in 22.250. Had a rust spot right one the shoulder. Cleaned it up the same way. Poorly lubricated from the factory
Yes please re the video on selecting bushings for dies
Have always polished the inside of my dies from new as a matter of choice 😉
Just got an rcbs 223 small base die. 4th case in it, expander stripped off the rod and stuck in the case. Threads probably damaged from the factory.. switched to my Lee steel die, no issues.
Sometimes you’re not getting what you pay for
Looks great!
I use flitz and a bore mop on a cordless drill.
Freedom Sticks, nice!
I had a .280AI die from them that I had to send back. It was so rough inside that it removed material from my brass. Customer service sent me a brand new die, didn’t even bother to polish the defective one. QC seems to be a big issue with Redding lately.
You can get a cloth barrel cleaner brush attached to a drill. I do that all the time.
I like to keep a can of brake cleaner on hand specifically for clean up jobs along with WD-40 in different media.
Good work mate bushing vid would be good
I had that issue with the same Redding die in 6.5 prc. Bummer deal
Back when I commented on a build you did and you did not reply politely but this is why I subscribed to your channel as to how to do something. This is what many such as myself are on RUclips for (learning) thanks for the direction it’s needed. From time to time.
Gotta get me some of that mysterious DW 40 our buddy here's talking about. Never heard of it. 😁
I have 2 sets of dies 6mm Creed and 6.5 PRC both the same last Redding dies for me.
I think a "chores around the shop" series would be cool..
The One-Shot spray that is not case-lube, is magic
How to use Redding dies all the time. I had a few brass that became stuck. I fixed the problem by using quality Case Lube. I've had zero issues since
you should mention how much "grid" the paste has. goede video, je armen groeien lekker man, dikke staalkabels.
If you have the ability to make an adapter, a Cotton Bore Mop would be better than a regular Dremel buff form the risk of collet nut contacting inside the die aspect given that bore mops are significantly longer than a regular Dremel buff wheel. The problem though is even the #6 thread size is too big to fit a Dremel collet since the biggest collet that I'm aware of is 1/8" (.125") where as a #6 thread has an OD of .138" (which you "might" be able to get locked into an 1/8" collet but I cant say for sure as I've never tried) and if its a #8 thread, then even worse at .164"
Great, i will try to polish my die too. You think tumbling the die with corncob will also do the job?
This is why I don't use Redding anymore!!!!! Wilson stainless steel bushing dies work way better!!
Take your dies apart an place them in your corn cob media tumbler every so often. It cleans them inside and out wonderfully. and removes all the lube.
Could you do a video showing how to thread and ream out a die blank? Now that you have shown willingness to finish the dies, the manufacturers may decide to cut more corners and charge the same money for them.
interesting..never had an issue with my RCBS dies..now that I have purchased a 22CM high end die set, I'm having issues.
My Redding 223 die makes fairly deep gouges in the case neck
So the next question.. was the overburden you had to polish off because they undersized or oversized that die when they milled it? Will find out if it chambers, or a guy could always measure.
Put a little painters tape over the chuck.
I think Johnnys Reloading Bench had a similar issue with a 6.5 PRC die. It may have been Redding as well.
It was Redding looks like they have some endcontrol Problem
WD-40, Autosol and Breakcleaner.
The holy trinity of garage life
Have you considered using a ball hone? Maybe 600 or 800 grit?
If you have a piece of brass stuck in your die you just need to pull up the Decapping pin out of the way. And then clamp your die in a Vice and drill with a .201 drill and tap it with a 1/4-20 tap. Then select a socket that goes around the outside of the case but rests on the die and put your bolt through the center of it with a washer and start tightening the bolt up and it will remove the brass case quite easily. Then of course you will have to remove the decamping pin from the piece of brass. No need to hammer it out at your friends house.
You, my friend, NEED a miniature lathe! 😁
Yes please doa bushing video
Got the exact same issue for the same die, redding type S 6.5 PRC. Is this rough surface because of bad craftsmanship or all redding dies are like this rough? Thanks
I think you should make a video about how to select bushing size. I learned the hard way. I was watching some of Erik Cortina’s Believe The Target podcast, and decided too turn my necks down. Oops, then I didn’t ensure I had a small enough bushing first.
Rule of thumb for me has been 2 thousands under bullet diameter. The short action customs bushings have worked well here. I've heard tell of some magnum rounds performing well with more neck tension but lack the magnum primers to test that now for a while.
@@foonus406 problem is you have to factor the case wall thickness. I had been using .0145 neck thickness and had the appropriate bushing. When I turned my necks down to .010, that bushing was no longer small enough to shape the neck. I think a dedicated video could help save people some problems.
@@jasonrad9332 Yeah, had same. Forgot to measure neck thickness to start, then turned down and remembered needed to measure. Turned into a win when buying bushings. 😅
Redding should do quality control. My 6.5 PRC was awful. Use anyone else’s
I messed up a die by sizing my cases, trimming them down, then accidentally dropping one on the concrete floor and resizing it. It seems like a bit of brass managed to get into the chamber of the die and the next few cases really pressed it in, now the last 50 cases i did have 2 scratches the exact same distance apart on every single case. I was wondering what the strongest metal pick i can use to try and scrape the brass out without damaging the die? Any ideas ??
Throw away the Redding and buy Le Wilson 😁😁. I did that.
Much easier using a drill , nylon brush and metal pollish... or just buy a custom die from Jurgens Nezar... in SA.
Nobody has DW40
Does Redding fix them, or say they are fine?
Hi Piet,
Net gisteraand gesukkel om 22-250 se keel skoon te kry en gedink ek het van hierdie stokkies nodig. Ek kry vir een of ander rede nie jou link oop nie....kry net 'n blank screen. Help 'n ou uit asb man👏
I have never bought Redding and after watching this I never will.
Will avoid the die maker, especially reading the comments. Sending a picture to Redding, may have yielded some useful results.
Redding makes so of the best dies avery make has sent bad dies out it happens that would not stop me from buying Redding again and again..
This makes me not feel bad paying the high price for the Short Action Customs dies.
Piet, you could use one of those swabs for ya covid test LOL.
I polish every new die I get.
Even with that, I had to get a normal die to run my "once fired" .308 brass through before using the full length die.
Otherwise I would get stuck cases.
Why didn't you contact Redding and have it replaced??
100 Dollars+ die. 10/10 I would not move a finger to smoothen up the working surface in it. That thing would go straight back to where it cam from with me.
In the US perhaps, not in South Africa when I need ammo tomorrow 🎯
@@IMPACTSHOOTING Point taken..
I would send it back.
If your Dremel won't reach, Get some wooden doweling, cut it long enough and a slot in the end. Put a soft rag in the slot. Use a drill, it will do.The dowel wont mark the die. I would have sent the die back. Ps, Use case lube. LOL Don't be a die snob. Use Lee dies, they are good.
What is the difference between the bushing die and the FL die?
FL die sizes the case body down within CIP or SAMMI spec and sizes the neck down to whatever is set by the die manufacturer.
FL Bushing die aslo sizes the case body down within CIP or SAMMI spec, but the neck sizing is controlled by the user, with the use of interchangeable bushings.
There is a few ways to work out which bushing you need. Hopefully helped, hope you have a great day 🙂
For the price theses would be goung right back to redding.
Sadly I suspect we will be seeing alot more of this type thing
I'm guessing it is too timely and costly to ship it back to redding. Removing any of the inside unless you have verified it is undersized could create more issues and quite possibly making the cartridge harder to chamber in your rifle.
I'll just add I am no expert and I know you are taking precautions not to remove metal other than the raised surface just don't know if its a good move for anyone not needing it to make loads for next day competitions or hunting as I can almost guarantee it will likely void the warranty. Great video and I always try to check out your content brother. Thanks for the informative videos.
It’s only polishing the metal, it’s not milling or removing any noticeable amour of steel. There is way to much BS on RUclips about reloading and cleaning rifles that people that don’t know buy. ( and I seriously don’t mean you in particular)A light polish will remove a minuscule…… resize tour fired case, now make a chamber cast of your rifles chamber. Measure your sized case body along the length of it in different places, then measure your chamber casting……. Be ready to see that there is liberal amount for polishing!
Has Redding quality gone bad these days😐. I have 2 Type-s dies, those are smooth inside.
I see a dentist in the making 😅
thats why theyre called a "cryphone" LOL
Redding will repair or replace no charge
@@rickoshea8138 Yes, I'm in the US. Unfortunate situation. Based on my customer service, I'd still think with emailed pics, they'd send a replacement asap and ensure it was manufactured to Piet's satisfaction
@@derekmcmurry I got no help with my problem, just asked if I could use the cases in my gun, crap customer service
Reloading gear is catching more “ fish” than good bait……..
Interesting that a dremel with metal polish is OK for a sizing die, but it will instantly ruin the hardened pins and surfaces inside a firearm. smh...
Hopefully Redding also made it right.
Imagine spending all that money on a die that doesn't even work. Might as well just buy Lee. At least they work.
For a Redding die that’s quite disappointing
wird flex with the iPhone 14 Pro comment hahahaha
Pretty sure I dissed it?
then I question myself about the quality of expensive brands.....
Polishing is still removing metal, just very little at a time.
not really the die material is very hard,... you would have to air gauge to pickup minute amounts of material lost...I use steel wool 0000 on a mandrel and with oil
@@planeiron241
A scratch or pit is below the "normal" surface area of the particular object you are polishing. Tool marks are either ridges or scratches. To make the surface smooth, you are removing the ridges, no matter how small that ridge is, it is still metal being removed by polishing.
Just resize your case, now make a chamber casting , measure along the length of your case at different spots ,then measure the same on the casting, Light will come on when you see that there is plenty room for polishing….. 0,034 of a thousands of a inch ( one micron) is not going to matter
$20 die in $1200 press? Wouldn't it make sense to step up in die quality at this point in your journey? SAC makes a good bushing die for a reasonable cost, Warner Tool if you want the best.
Piet, you're the one who laughs out loud at the intrusive thoughts in his own melon. Don't tar us all with the same brush lol.
😂😂😂😂
@@IMPACTSHOOTING "Ach, du Schlingel!" as my German friend refers to me, seems appropriate for you too Piet. (Nearest I could work out in Afrikaans is "skelm")
@@IMPACTSHOOTING also what drone are you or your brother running? I got to play with a Mavic 3 Pro on Monday for a short while doing my drone pilot test for sub 7kg drone license and while the package options go from 3k to 5+k AUD, it was like getting out of a Fiat 500 and strapping into an Audi RS4!
This is RIDICULOUS.
This should not happen with Redding dies given what they charge for them!
Reloading gear catch more fish than good bait, lol
put electical tape on the chuck