My guy, you really don't want to do that. Not saying you're an idiot that can't keep a consistent temp with a dial. But I'd much rather use something that can't possibly get hot enough to heat up the case heads. Be safe out there.
Something I've thought of recently having used an old dehydrater as my dryer now you probably don't want to eat out of what u dry cause of residual lead residues but idk how much it rlly would be I'm sure not much more than grandma's paint but yknow
I’ve been eyeing off that press for a month or so! For drying brass, I use a bucket of methylated spirits and a frying basket - no residue, and it’s dry within a minute or two. I also have a bench magnet on which I tap my brass before annealing - stops any stray tumbling media pins going into the AMP.
I would also recommend the Dillon xl750 to do your brass prep. I do my 6x47 lapua about 600 cases in about 15 mins. That is resized and primed!. Then the 419 press to seat the bullets. It use to take me a day and a half to reload 600 rounds. Now...I can do it all in about 2 hours. That is prep, resize, powder and seating. If i add in annealing, its about another 40 mins and trimming adds more.
600 in 15 minutes? Shit. I can only prep 1000 5.56 in an hour. You must really be working that handle. Sometimes I wish the machine was ambidextrous so I could switch sides.
O I use the Frankford arsenal intelidropper. It's a good unit got the money. I'll recycle the first 5 charges I've found the first 2 occasionally inconsistent. I have to turn off the AC in the reloading building when I'm doing powder because the air moving by the fan messes up the scale. I've also heard really good things about the rcbs charge master my buddy uses that one.
I don't care what it is guns, reloading gear, shooting gear or hunting gear there's always that next thing you're 100% correct on that!! LOL I tinker with the competition thing PRS and 3 gun and love shooting long range along with hunting so that means I shoot several thousand rounds a year especially in handguns and AR's so anything that saves some time is worth every penny because I like shooting much more then reloading. Definitely a pretty cool list I've tried the AMP press and it's freakin sweet and is the next thing on my buy list. Great video as always keepem coming brother!!!
I recommend the Dillon 750 with dedicated heads for each caliber and leave the dies set up. I dont seat with that press, but caseprep is crazy fast. 200 cases from setup till cleaned up in less than 30min easy.
Sir, there is no comparison between these two presses, the 750 is for volume, the zero is for precision, I can promise you not one BR shooter is reloading with a 750.
I would like a video on the autotrickler. I had been considering buying another lowish end auto charge dispenser set a bit below my desired charge and a high end scientific scale then manually trickling the last little bit myself to speed my precision loading as my current dispenser lacks the precision in the scale I would like but also often meters more than desired etc. I am always either removing excess powder from the platen or adding more etc. Takes forever. I was unaware of this product and it may not be much more in cost that what I was looking out for high end scale and auto dispenser.
My auto trickler works wonders, I am however still on version one your brass annealer and for drying, I use the wife's hair dryer... Would love an amp anealing machine.
not a top 5, just my favorites Area 419 zero press mitotoyo calipers SAC comparator set primal rights primer seater giraud trimmer Auto trickler v4 AMP Mk2 and not needed but i like numbers, sinclair concentrity gauge What are your go to brands for FL sizing dies and seating dies? I've become very partial to my SAC sizing and seating dies
A tip for doing good, but cheap for starting out reloading, for cleaning brass Rather than get a wet tumbler with steel pins I bought the steel pins only. I would decap the brass. I then used an empty plastic peanut butter jar, put in the pins, 100 rifle brass or 200 pistol brass, hot water, laundry detergent and citric acid. Put the lid on and shake for a minute, let sit for a minute repeat until the water has cooled off, about an hour. strain into a colander lined with a T-shirt. Rinse, shake the pins out of the brass into the colander. Put the brass on a towel on top of the clothes drier. Let the brass sit there while doing a week's worth of laundry for two people. It was cheap and effective. After the first round of equipment was paid off I purchased a brass tumbler and my wife now lets me use the food dehydrator.
Just ordered the V4 a few months ago so have a few more months before it will arrive but got the scale. Trying to cut back on time I spend reloading as well. I found that my FA intellidropper varied by ±.07, so as much as .14 variation. If I let my Intellidropper warm up for 3-4hrs. Prior to reloading, the margin of error drops to ±.04 but still almost a .1 grain variance.
I‘ve been drying all of my brass in the oven at 50*C / 122*F and it only takes about 25 minutes - I hope it’s not an issue health wise. Haven’t noticed anything with the brass. I use a seperate tray for brass that isn’t used for food.
Its one thing if it saves time or if it improves performance. I have found that most things do not make enough of a difference in real world testing to warrant the increased cost or time. If you like numbers and the best of the best just to nerd out on, by all means go for it. But there are guys using rock chuckers, mechanical and torch annealers, hand primers and hand trimmers still winning matches on the regular.
Since nobody else answered, I’ll try (as someone who owns two dillon presses (650 and 750), rcbs single stage and a turret. Progressive uses a shellplate that can hold multiple cases. Problem is, the shellplate tilts. If you want consistency, this is one of the main reasons why the single stage(and turret) is king. Turret is just a single stage with an indexing head On the dillon, the shellplate floats a bit. As in it gets pushed up during the upstroke and goes back down during the downstroke. You can clamp it down but that involves drilling and tapping the die heads. It works but you’re still left with the shellplate problem. It’s one of those problems that you’ll only realize after using it, so I hope this helps you.
It's simple, as cost goes up, quality, consistency, and often time savings occur. If you're new to the sport, buy factory ammo and get the basics down. After a year or two, when you know you're gonna stick with it, then buy a tool like the AutoTrickler which will save you lots of time. Save up. As you get better, you'll need another super secret squirrel tool. Clean brass really makes no difference. Bryan Litz and Erik Cortina have tested that theory to the hilt.
Piet, I didn't know you were a wet tumbler! Do you still wet tumble? If so I wanted to ask how you deal with the friction between the squeaky clean neck and the brass of the bullet. Do you dry lube bullets? Mandrel expand with dry lube? If you could tell me your method, reasoning and results I would appreciate it!
I have purchased most of the things you mentioned and I'm sure I won't regret doing so. Have you looked into Primal Rights CPS (Competition Primer Seater and their Prime Where Package that measures primer seating depth within 1/10,000 using their Digital Guage?
@@IMPACTSHOOTING Is the Primal Rights CPS worth the price tag? I've had pretty great success with the Perfect Seat Hand Primer from Frankford Arsenal. The depth adjustment seems super consistent and easy to use/setup. 200+ pieces are tough on the hands though.
I would also like to have the autotrickler, but only in version 2 - but unfortunately - the company blocks their sales themselves - because they always only offer the latest (best) version.... so I don't!
Oh yes; I would love to have all those toys……. I hunt mostly……. A lot actually here on our farm in South AfricA, I got a semi custom rifle, a 7 mm Mauser ( 7x57mm), custom barrel on a CZ model 557 action, I shoot Norma cases, CCI 200 primers, I reload on a Single stage LEE press, Lee dies, Anneal with a gas burner, use a mandrel on my case necks, jump of bullets is 2 mm to lands, 139 gr Hornady SST bullets at 2878 fps, Nightforce SHV scope, I get a raged 1 hole at 100 m with 3 shots, shot a few times long range gongs on the farm, furtherest was 1300 m, I use Strelock pro, waterline was about 2 inches but wind was about 18 inches. I reload with a lot of attention on my work…… guess I am just lucky to have a good rifle and don’t need to load as much as you at any one time, but love to have all those nice reloading gear Pietman. Keep those videos coming , luv the content!!!! Working now on on loads on my 577/450 Martini Henry with paper rapped lead bullets…….luv this old thing …… from 1878
There's not a man alive that can shoot the difference between a ZERO and a CoAx. For $1300, I just don't see the need. Die changes are even easier with the CoAx. Dillon 550C for volume 9mm, .223/5.56. Forster CoAx for precision rounds, powder weighed on AT v3, of course.
Not a super expensive tool, but the Redding instant indicator with a mitutoyo 0.00001" gauge is amazing (ok, the gauge was $$$). Far quicker and much more precise than caliper comparators.
and somehow you glossed over the Primal Rights competition primer seater (~$675) sitting on the shelf in the background... but the ~$50 case dryer made the list?!? LOL! okay....
Autotrickler - Absolutely a great piece of gear. Gets rid of excuses. I own one and immediately seen my ES and SD drop. To the kernel in 10 seconds still blows my mind. AMP - Annealing is a great thing to do, but is far from an exact science with way too many variables that even the AMP cant account for. I still do it the caveman way with an Annealeez. Guys have been and still do it this way and still win. Im not saying the AMP is not worth having, I just dont see the point in spending that much money for something that may or may not actually make a difference. Extreme Tumbler - Great piece of gear, but can be built if you are handy. I built my own because I do batches of 1000s of pieces of brass. FA Brass Drier - Nope, too slow, not enough capacity. The oven at 200 degree is the fastest if you need it now and wont hurt your brass. Overnight with a fan blowing on it, good enough. I do big batches, plan ahead and just air dry it. Henderson trimmer - Pricey but nice gear. Giraud is an excellent alternative. Even a drill mounted unit like a WFT2 will give good results quickly but is harder on your hands. I own the Giraud and WFT2. Zero Press - Cool yes, pricey yes, worth it, juries still out there. There are a bunch of really good presses out there, all proven to load excellent ammo. A little movement is actually not a bad thing and is proven to help make more concentric ammo. When you have guys winning loading on an old Rock Chucker or an automated 750, I think its more the prep and the shooter than the press. I use a Mec mostly now, which is rigid, zero slop, and is dead simple. One thing you missed? LabRadar. I consider this a needed tool.
the best part of reloading is keeping is doing it yourself, every step is awesome , lol you got sore hands that part of it, millennials , until you understand, it is what it is, youll just become more lazy ,
My wife laughs when she opens the oven and says oh we are cooking brass.
Go buy a food dehydrator they work amazing and even fit on your bench depending on your setup.
My guy, you really don't want to do that. Not saying you're an idiot that can't keep a consistent temp with a dial. But I'd much rather use something that can't possibly get hot enough to heat up the case heads. Be safe out there.
@kevinfabian3002 Appreciate the lookout, my oven is super-duper lol has a dehydrator setting low heat I can even do jerky if I wanted.
Something I've thought of recently having used an old dehydrater as my dryer now you probably don't want to eat out of what u dry cause of residual lead residues but idk how much it rlly would be I'm sure not much more than grandma's paint but yknow
@@youtubeadmin3158 LOL
Top 5 waste of money items in your loading room next?
No brass dryer where I live in Namibia.
Just leave the brass out in the sun.
I’ve been eyeing off that press for a month or so! For drying brass, I use a bucket of methylated spirits and a frying basket - no residue, and it’s dry within a minute or two. I also have a bench magnet on which I tap my brass before annealing - stops any stray tumbling media pins going into the AMP.
Absolutely the superTrickler is one of my most expensive items on my bench. It's stupid amazing though.
I want the AMP❤❤
I use a large counter-top oven on my reloading bench. Handy for drying brass and curing Cerakote!
Awesome video, thank you.
Great job looking forward to more 👍👍
I would also recommend the Dillon xl750 to do your brass prep. I do my 6x47 lapua about 600 cases in about 15 mins. That is resized and primed!. Then the 419 press to seat the bullets. It use to take me a day and a half to reload 600 rounds. Now...I can do it all in about 2 hours. That is prep, resize, powder and seating. If i add in annealing, its about another 40 mins and trimming adds more.
600 in 15 minutes? Shit. I can only prep 1000 5.56 in an hour. You must really be working that handle. Sometimes I wish the machine was ambidextrous so I could switch sides.
O I use the Frankford arsenal intelidropper. It's a good unit got the money. I'll recycle the first 5 charges I've found the first 2 occasionally inconsistent. I have to turn off the AC in the reloading building when I'm doing powder because the air moving by the fan messes up the scale. I've also heard really good things about the rcbs charge master my buddy uses that one.
I don't care what it is guns, reloading gear, shooting gear or hunting gear there's always that next thing you're 100% correct on that!! LOL I tinker with the competition thing PRS and 3 gun and love shooting long range along with hunting so that means I shoot several thousand rounds a year especially in handguns and AR's so anything that saves some time is worth every penny because I like shooting much more then reloading. Definitely a pretty cool list I've tried the AMP press and it's freakin sweet and is the next thing on my buy list. Great video as always keepem coming brother!!!
I recommend the Dillon 750 with dedicated heads for each caliber and leave the dies set up. I dont seat with that press, but caseprep is crazy fast. 200 cases from setup till cleaned up in less than 30min easy.
Yes that’s what I have, great for high volume shooting
Sir, there is no comparison between these two presses, the 750 is for volume, the zero is for precision, I can promise you not one BR shooter is reloading with a 750.
Great Video as always....
Have a great day... Regards from Germany
Thank you 😊
Good choices sir. I too have all those tools, except the food dehydrator. Still using the wife’s oven.
Those are all on my list! The pooping part is true. 🤣
I would like a video on the autotrickler. I had been considering buying another lowish end auto charge dispenser set a bit below my desired charge and a high end scientific scale then manually trickling the last little bit myself to speed my precision loading as my current dispenser lacks the precision in the scale I would like but also often meters more than desired etc. I am always either removing excess powder from the platen or adding more etc. Takes forever. I was unaware of this product and it may not be much more in cost that what I was looking out for high end scale and auto dispenser.
My auto trickler works wonders, I am however still on version one your brass annealer and for drying, I use the wife's hair dryer... Would love an amp anealing machine.
Would love a dedicated video on the auto trickler! Thank you
Run a V3 and a V4, both are excellent.
Hi Piet. Great video soos altyd. Wat is jou opinie oor die Forster Co-Ax press? Is die akuraatheid op die Area419 press beter genoeg om te upgrade?
Hi Piet,,,dankie, baie gooie video,,,💪👍🇦🇺
Please do a dedicated video on the auto trickier. Thanks bud from canada
not a top 5, just my favorites
Area 419 zero press
mitotoyo calipers
SAC comparator set
primal rights primer seater
giraud trimmer
Auto trickler v4
AMP Mk2
and not needed but i like numbers, sinclair concentrity gauge
What are your go to brands for FL sizing dies and seating dies? I've become very partial to my SAC sizing and seating dies
+1 on the Autotrickler
Hey Pete, cool concept video but you missed one item. The primer press by Primal Rights its awesome I love it 😀 See you next time
A tip for doing good, but cheap for starting out reloading, for cleaning brass
Rather than get a wet tumbler with steel pins I bought the steel pins only. I would decap the brass. I then used an empty plastic peanut butter jar, put in the pins, 100 rifle brass or 200 pistol brass, hot water, laundry detergent and citric acid. Put the lid on and shake for a minute, let sit for a minute repeat until the water has cooled off, about an hour. strain into a colander lined with a T-shirt. Rinse, shake the pins out of the brass into the colander.
Put the brass on a towel on top of the clothes drier. Let the brass sit there while doing a week's worth of laundry for two people.
It was cheap and effective. After the first round of equipment was paid off I purchased a brass tumbler and my wife now lets me use the food dehydrator.
Just ordered the V4 a few months ago so have a few more months before it will arrive but got the scale. Trying to cut back on time I spend reloading as well. I found that my FA intellidropper varied by ±.07, so as much as .14 variation.
If I let my Intellidropper warm up for 3-4hrs. Prior to reloading, the margin of error drops to ±.04 but still almost a .1 grain variance.
I wouldn't hold your breath, i put my preorder in on a v4 april of 2021 and haven't heard anything
I‘ve been drying all of my brass in the oven at 50*C / 122*F and it only takes about 25 minutes - I hope it’s not an issue health wise. Haven’t noticed anything with the brass. I use a seperate tray for brass that isn’t used for food.
Its one thing if it saves time or if it improves performance. I have found that most things do not make enough of a difference in real world testing to warrant the increased cost or time. If you like numbers and the best of the best just to nerd out on, by all means go for it. But there are guys using rock chuckers, mechanical and torch annealers, hand primers and hand trimmers still winning matches on the regular.
If you are talking local matches I'm sure you are correct, on the national level, can you name one competitor?
@@fcrum I'm talking PRS. Not F Class and bench shooting sports.
Air fryer works fantastic to dry brass
My 3 most expensive tools are all under 300 dollars and they are my scale,micrometer, and press..
When can we buy the ACC Elite?
What was your reason to go with a turret reloading versus a progressive one ? Wouldn’t it make load time faster ?
Since nobody else answered, I’ll try (as someone who owns two dillon presses (650 and 750), rcbs single stage and a turret.
Progressive uses a shellplate that can hold multiple cases. Problem is, the shellplate tilts. If you want consistency, this is one of the main reasons why the single stage(and turret) is king. Turret is just a single stage with an indexing head
On the dillon, the shellplate floats a bit. As in it gets pushed up during the upstroke and goes back down during the downstroke. You can clamp it down but that involves drilling and tapping the die heads. It works but you’re still left with the shellplate problem.
It’s one of those problems that you’ll only realize after using it, so I hope this helps you.
I've heard the Forster products co-ax press is the best as far as reloading goes, that turret press is more of a Gucci press I guess?
Yeah I reload with a spoon and beam scales
Very helpful. Just add primers. :)
It's simple, as cost goes up, quality, consistency, and often time savings occur. If you're new to the sport, buy factory ammo and get the basics down. After a year or two, when you know you're gonna stick with it, then buy a tool like the AutoTrickler which will save you lots of time. Save up. As you get better, you'll need another super secret squirrel tool. Clean brass really makes no difference. Bryan Litz and Erik Cortina have tested that theory to the hilt.
How do I figure the price on web site to us ?
Lief jou videos buddy! 📹 Ek, soos al die anders bra's wat jou stuff kyk, se vrouens gaan ons moer as ons dit koop! 😂😂😂
Link for clean brass Piet?
Area419 press
Autotrickler v4
AMP Mark4
Giraud case trimmer
Labradar
Piet, I didn't know you were a wet tumbler! Do you still wet tumble? If so I wanted to ask how you deal with the friction between the squeaky clean neck and the brass of the bullet. Do you dry lube bullets? Mandrel expand with dry lube? If you could tell me your method, reasoning and results I would appreciate it!
Any new on the stock x
Fly the flag 🏴☠️
Now you need the CPS Primal Rights Priming Tool to add to this list!
Its on the wall behind me, should have been in the list though
🤣🤣🤣 I just finished pooping as you said it!🤣🤣🤣
HHahahahhaa 💩
I have purchased most of the things you mentioned and I'm sure I won't regret doing so. Have you looked into Primal Rights CPS (Competition Primer Seater and their Prime Where Package that measures primer seating depth within 1/10,000 using their Digital Guage?
Ive got that too, on the wall behind me. Actually needed to list that in the video, mistake on my part 🤦🏼♂️
The cps is literally on the wall behind the guy the entire video lol
@@IMPACTSHOOTING Is the Primal Rights CPS worth the price tag? I've had pretty great success with the Perfect Seat Hand Primer from Frankford Arsenal. The depth adjustment seems super consistent and easy to use/setup. 200+ pieces are tough on the hands though.
@@TheOptimi5t cps is LEGIT!!! Especially when loading volume!
@@IMPACTSHOOTING Nice!! Looks like I will have to add it to the lineup. And here I thought my dream reloading setup was complete...
I would also like to have the autotrickler, but only in version 2 - but unfortunately - the company blocks their sales themselves - because they always only offer the latest (best) version.... so I don't!
1) Instead of a glorified food dehydrator, I just got a food dehydrator. Does the exact same thing but only costs a fraction.
2) Präzipress ftw!
Oh yes; I would love to have all those toys……. I hunt mostly……. A lot actually here on our farm in South AfricA, I got a semi custom rifle, a 7 mm Mauser ( 7x57mm), custom barrel on a CZ model 557 action, I shoot Norma cases, CCI 200 primers, I reload on a Single stage LEE press, Lee dies, Anneal with a gas burner, use a mandrel on my case necks, jump of bullets is 2 mm to lands, 139 gr Hornady SST bullets at 2878 fps, Nightforce SHV scope, I get a raged 1 hole at 100 m with 3 shots, shot a few times long range gongs on the farm, furtherest was 1300 m, I use Strelock pro, waterline was about 2 inches but wind was about 18 inches. I reload with a lot of attention on my work…… guess I am just lucky to have a good rifle and don’t need to load as much as you at any one time, but love to have all those nice reloading gear Pietman. Keep those videos coming , luv the content!!!!
Working now on on loads on my 577/450 Martini Henry with paper rapped lead bullets…….luv this old thing …… from 1878
Yup, there's always the "next thing " truth!
There's not a man alive that can shoot the difference between a ZERO and a CoAx. For $1300, I just don't see the need. Die changes are even easier with the CoAx. Dillon 550C for volume 9mm, .223/5.56. Forster CoAx for precision rounds, powder weighed on AT v3, of course.
Not a super expensive tool, but the Redding instant indicator with a mitutoyo 0.00001" gauge is amazing (ok, the gauge was $$$). Far quicker and much more precise than caliper comparators.
I dunk my wet brass in ethyl alcohol (camp stove fuel). Dries in a few minutes and never any water spots.
Awww I’m not sure you know what budget really is! For us Country Boys
Brass in a pillowcase on the shoe rack in the clothes dryer for me.
I take 2 days to do 100 rounds . I'm happy.
and somehow you glossed over the Primal Rights competition primer seater (~$675) sitting on the shelf in the background... but the ~$50 case dryer made the list?!? LOL! okay....
OHH Love the line "It's sucking the life out your bank account" Wife already asked me so how much is all of this going to cost... wink wink.
Autotrickler - Absolutely a great piece of gear. Gets rid of excuses. I own one and immediately seen my ES and SD drop. To the kernel in 10 seconds still blows my mind.
AMP - Annealing is a great thing to do, but is far from an exact science with way too many variables that even the AMP cant account for. I still do it the caveman way with an Annealeez. Guys have been and still do it this way and still win. Im not saying the AMP is not worth having, I just dont see the point in spending that much money for something that may or may not actually make a difference.
Extreme Tumbler - Great piece of gear, but can be built if you are handy. I built my own because I do batches of 1000s of pieces of brass.
FA Brass Drier - Nope, too slow, not enough capacity. The oven at 200 degree is the fastest if you need it now and wont hurt your brass. Overnight with a fan blowing on it, good enough. I do big batches, plan ahead and just air dry it.
Henderson trimmer - Pricey but nice gear. Giraud is an excellent alternative. Even a drill mounted unit like a WFT2 will give good results quickly but is harder on your hands. I own the Giraud and WFT2.
Zero Press - Cool yes, pricey yes, worth it, juries still out there. There are a bunch of really good presses out there, all proven to load excellent ammo. A little movement is actually not a bad thing and is proven to help make more concentric ammo. When you have guys winning loading on an old Rock Chucker or an automated 750, I think its more the prep and the shooter than the press. I use a Mec mostly now, which is rigid, zero slop, and is dead simple.
One thing you missed? LabRadar. I consider this a needed tool.
It's people like this can still get it done and right
Hey Piet what’s the news, met jou gewere wat die polisie het
Daars n video opdad hoor ek!
Understanding wife….. priceless.
Dam I forgot I was shitting. Stood up after the video and dropped a nug
Prometheus?
First
I see you!
Can you make a video please how we can practice for hunting on a shooting range
I was pooping
Just use Chinese amo just saying lol
Trop de baratin, pensez-vous que certains ne parlent pas votre patoi ,?bon 80 %c'est notre top model qui baraguine😂😂😂
the best part of reloading is keeping is doing it yourself, every step is awesome , lol you got sore hands that part of it, millennials , until you understand, it is what it is, youll just become more lazy ,
You lost me at wet tumbling. 🤦🏼♂️
Bla, bla bla
Lets pray that the more indecent plakkers are nit subscribed to your channel and target you for your stuff.