Henderson V3 Case Trimmer: Unboxing, Overview, Setup, Trimming
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I’ve recently partnered with Henderson Precision and have been very impressed with their Gen 3 power case trimmer. In this video I cover unboxing, overview, setup, and trimming some 6 Dasher brass!
*Correction: All parts on this trimmer are made in the USA except the motor.
*Correction: The #4 collet has only one diameter, 0.605" (338 Lapua and similar)
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This looks awesome. The screw stop/lock nut looks like a pain in the ass. I’d love to see one with a micrometer or dial adjustment with a tensioner instead. For those of us reloading multiple calibers on single set ups.
For the money they are asking,you’d think it would have a micrometer adjustment
Give it time , someone will come up with one
That would only add to the already high cost. You can take a trip to your hardware store and make up a set of stops for a couple dollars.
For around $900, a stop screw with a jam nut is bonkers. This should absolutely have a micrometer stop. I can pick up a Giraud for over $300 cheaper and not have to assemble anything. On top of that, rather than assuming the collect is perfectly flat, for another $41, I can get a case holder for the Giraud.
*Really* failing to see the cost/value analysis here where the Henderson V3 comes out on top.
EXPENSIVE !
It really isn’t though. Think about the cost of opportunity. You save a ton of time not having to do 3 different steps. 3 seconds a case thats about 1000 cases an hour. Then on a progressive you can do about 750 an hour. In two hours you have a 3 hour range day. You can use the rest of that time to make more money, spend time with your family or shoot more.
@@AutopilotAndChillRationalizing your purchase I see.
I had been using a Wilson for my precision .308 for 10 years thinking that it was the only way to trim perfectly, even with the power adapter it was painful! Then I would have to chamfer and de-burr. I received my Henderson in late April, all I can say is WOW this thing is awesome!!
It's amazing how quick and awesome this thing trims!!!
I have a Henderson inbound, changing from a powered Wilson Sinclair trimmer. The Wilson is very consistent, but takes dramatically more time and effort compared to the Henderson. The 3 in 1 trimmer is a huge part of that, but the collet is also far faster than tapping cases in and out of the Wilson case holders. I’m still not parting with the Wilson after I get the Henderson so I can trim my 357 magnum cases, but for rifle the Henderson appears to be a game changer if you want speed, ease of use, and consistent results. Buy once, cry once.
I've been using a Wilson trimmer too and it does a great job I'll admit but it's a pain to use! Plus you have to debur afterwards. It sucks! Not to mention that I'm a quadriplegic with no use of my fingers. It takes me a lot longer to do some of the simplest steps in reloading.
This Henderson trimmer would be a game changer for me in my situation!
I have the new Gen 3 also and am extremely happy with it. Using it for 6.5cm, 22-250, and .223 so far. Changeovers are easy and consistency is best I’ve seen.
So, as a result of watching this video and Panhandle Precision, i ordered one of these and can’t wait to set it up and use it. Thank you
I tried my new Henderson for the first time yesterday. I was absolutely amazed at how nice of a job it did and how fast it does three things at once.
After watching this i will be placing an order. I've been using the Frankford for doing thousands of 5.56 cases. For high power. I won't want arthritis. I need something fast and easy on my hands. No more blisters!
For all the money I've spent on other trimmers I could have bought one of these from the start! The Henderson trimmers is just one of those tools that is IT! The very best. A true pleasure to use! Take a dial caliper to the lock nut bolts and you'll start to understand why you don't really need micrometer adjustable whatever. If you are a volume shooter, BUY THIS TOOL! You will be VERY GLAD you did in the end. Not cheap but well worth it. I've tried most of the others, don't waste your money on less than the best........
For that much money it should have a finer depth of cut adjustment, use a toothed belt, and offer at least a micrometer adjuster. Also some way of setting and forgetting several calibers.
Mine is inbound to Australia but taking ages to get through USPS international processing centre… can’t wait to have it all set up and get my trim on!
I'm digging it man... I personally hate trimming brass I actually trim my brass much shorter just so I can get a few firings on them before I have to deal with it again. I really like the fact it's a 1 and done process... you don't have to trim then chamfer inside and out of the case mouth. It's definitely pricey but I want one... Great video as always keepem coming brother!!!
Would have liked to see how the case neck de-burr and inside chamfer looked.
I have a Giraud, but I have been eyeing the Henderson. Know a few folks that use it for their match brass. I will say it like this, if you poll the shooters at an F-Class state championship or higher-level match, it's either Giraud or Henderson trimmers in use. No one uses any other method. Just too much work to do 200+ pieces by hand, on a drill chuck or using a multi-step process via FA's or Lyman/RCBS/Hornady case prep centers. Another major factor is consistency. Everything is about the aggregate, and if you're doing trimming, chamfer, and debur any other way, then it's not going to be as consistent. Great review as always. I like that he ships it disassembled. My Giraud was bent due to UPS's poor handling. It was packed in very well, but it had been dropped right on a corner which transferred straight into the motor mount and bent it. Took me several hours to get it straightened out. The Henderson is way quieter than a Giraud too. It is so much easier to change out the cutter head too. Lord, it is a pain to swap out the head on the Giraud, and you've gotta have a separate head for each caliber or you better have a lot of patience and throw away brass. The only thing I dislike about the Henderson is the length adjust bolt. I feel like it's greatly lacking in matching quality to the rest of the tool. Giraud uses an insert similar to a die and is much easier to get adjusted for length and never moves once it's locked down. Id venture to say the variance across 500 cases is 0.001." I would like to see the consistency across 500 cases. 10 is just too small a sample set. To your point on cost, yep, if you want the best, then you'll pay. Consistency and precision carry high cost, but these things last a lifetime.
Starrett micrometer body ran through the 'cross-slide' would make this thing a dream to use. Set it up like and adjustable stop on your lathe. I don't think I'd be a fan of fiddling with the coarse thread bolt and a nut.
I'd totally buy one of these things if I didn't already build myself a case trimmer out of a 7x10 mini lathe.
Sure it needs some fiddling, but you only need to do it once per cartridge…..think about how fast you can swap between different cartridges when all you gotta do is quick thread in another bolt?
For such a nice machine, it seems almost like an afterthought.
@@SigmaBallistics Sure, you could also just turn threaded stand off for each rifle. When you wanted to reload 6 dasher, thread in the correct rod in the threaded boss.
Im just saying for the cost of this thing, a micrometer adjust doesn't seem unreasonable.
@@jonathonschram3429 I 100% agree. I own one, I haven’t gotten to use it yet. I’m not too worried about it, but I would definitely welcome a micrometer adjustment.
I had exactly the same thought the first time I saw this trimmer. On the other hand, inserting a feeler gauge between the bolt and the stop should get the initial adjustment very close.
I live in Australia and I've had a Henderson for about 2 years. Works great on my 22-250 and 243 cases. I have the no motor option and just use a cordless drill which works well.
Good plan on the No motor option
Got the first one to New Zealand 2mths ago from Todd, they've been a hit and sold a few already. Todd has produced a fabulous piece of equipment alright.
You can increase the trim by just tightening the bolt. Once you’re really close you don’t need to loosen the nut.
I just got a couple months ago and love it.
I have a Henderson Trimmer and it is awesome! Makes a painful chore actually fun! My only wish is they still haven't released a .358" cutter... I've been asking for one for well over a year! PLEASE make a .358" cutter!
Giraud and Henderson are the two top tier trimmers on the market They just index differently. Giraud list for a somewhat lower initial price, but when you add in case holders and cutters it's pretty even in the end.
If they made collets and cutters for pistol rounds, this would be universally more amazing than it already is
I like the accuracy, tool quick change and simplicity. I might have missed the price? I suggest placing a drop tray under bench with a chip separator to reduce contamination. To help productivity. All and all 👍
Gavin thanks for the video without it I'd still be trying to figure out how to hang the motor on my new GEN three. Always enjoy all of your videos and tips! I really like my Henderson trimmer but there are instructions suck.
I purchased one this year to trim my 6 GT and 6.5 CM cases. I was using a Frankfort arsenal Case prep station previously. I still use it for the primer pockets but switch to the Henderson for case length and chamfer. I'm a PRS competitor and I run the 6 GT in my bolt gun and 6.5 in an AR platform. It was quite an investment, but it drastically reduced my Case prep time. So really, what is your time worth? Probably everyone's least favorite part of reloading is Case prep and by speeding up case trimming and chamfering Case prep has become less grueling. It is also very consistent both on case length and inside outside chamfer. And let's face it, consistency is what we are all after in the shooting sports. Definitely a great purchase.
Love my gen. 2!
Just ordered mine today
I’m in Australia so had to contact Todd to arrange freight and 240v version
Absolutely top bloke went out his way to speak with me which would have been very late in the US.
Top marks on customer service can’t wait to get it
Henderson is a class act!!!!
cheers
Got mine with the brass shaving and brass bin a week ago and love it. The bin makes it super fast…
That looks very nice
damn that is amazing, if I didn't already have a bunch of the little crow gunworks trimmers this would def be my goto
Hi I ordered the Girard Power Trimmer several months ago and they have been waiting for motors to be delivered. It looks like a great system because it cuts based on a measurement from the cutter to the case shoulder
The Henderson V3 appears to cut from a measurement from the case mouth to the case but. It would be interesting to see a comparison of the results and which gives the best accurate reload consistently
Thanks. Enjoy you channel
Dan Martin
I’m sold! Thanks for the video
I am afraid I may be as well. Wallet is gonna sting for a while.
awesome trimmer!
Yes, this thing is amazing!
I have the Gen 2. Best money I ever spent on a tool for the reloading room.
On my wishlist 👏
Good deal! Worth the wait
Hey Gavin I have recently started Reloading. I am doing it for 22-250 Rem. I was wondering if you could feature it at some point. I think it would be a Good cartridge to do as it could be shown in action on your rock chucks, and is a light recoiling and flat shooting cartridge at short > mid range. I am currently trying CFE 223 in it, and was looking for other powders that will work as getting powder is getting harder.
Thank you for the content and the knowledge that you share.
Just set mine up today for 6mm Dasher....after a bit of feel my way and adjusting the bolt and lock nut (gotta be a better way personally) it works consistently. Sure is faster than my Franklin 3 head unit....I mean waaaaay faster
I must be special, I received mine in April already assembled!
When setting the stop bolt I do not tighten the bolt very much. It only takes very little force to hold in place. This way it is easily removed to swap out to a different caliber.
Hi Gavin, do they sell different pilots as I like to trim after sizing your thoughts would be appreciated
Great video and where did you purchase the metal channels in your bench?
I like the cutter design. I'll probably pick one up to chuck into my mini drill press. Then use the Lee shell holder and lock stud from their hand trimmer set to hold the brass on the table. I was able to get less than ~.002" ES from this method and an RCBS 3 way cuter, but their design clogs up frequently when run like this. There is no way in hell I'd ever drop almost $800 on a trimmer...
What's you thought on this compared to the lyman case trim express
Needs a micrometer for length adjustment.
Literally the best thing I have in my reloading setup, worth every penny. It actually makes brass prep downright enjoyable.
Question:
Depending on case rim diameter. Will the case advance to variable lengths?
So nice 👍
This trimmer is on my list to get within the next 2 months. I'm surprised you didn't have the Brass Bin & Shaving Containment. Are there restrictions (size wise) when you mount it?
Ok so you can get an equivalent setup for less money and with the same functionality by getting the hornady hand trimmer, hornady power drill adapter, and then the RCBS 3-way cutter. This will let you get repeatable length fast and the cases will already be chamfered/de-burred. This should be around $175 I think to get setup, if you need to do an additional caliber (like .223 and .30) you would need to buy a second cutter head/pilot ($60/$16). If you already have a drill this is the way to go IMO.
I wonder if this is as good as the ARC Ballistics trimmers, any chance you can do a comparison?
Does the collet scratch the inside of the case neck?
Dammit Gavin... I just finished paying on my AutoTrickler v3. Now I NEED to have one of these bad boys! Your videos are getting expensive for me... Lol
Is it powerful enough to do the case trim for a 223 necked up to 300 Blackout?
Impressive
is it possible to make 7.52 x 39 on this trimmer?
What do I use for trimming 223/5.56 into 300blk. Or better yet 6.5creedmoor into 8.6blk
Length adjustment seems kinda crude for such a nice machine.
When is the v4 cutter head coming out? Neck turn ?
Will this trimmer do neckless calibers like 45-70 ?
Adjust with a feeler gauge?
Damn this video came right at the time I’m hesitating about Henderson or Giraud. But anyone know any website other than Henderson itself sells it?
I really liked their gen 1 design where it indexed off the shoulder. Can you ask why they discontinued that one? Seems like a faster way to trim through a pile of brass.
I also liked the Gen 1 because the RPM's of the motor were adjustable too.
Would think that the easiest way to set your trim length would be to use the appropriate size feeler gauge between the bolt and the carriage.
Can you trim pistols brass with the Henderson trimmer
You would think at that price there would be a click adjustable depth setting. At least something that has graduations on it.
I would be interested in this if you could also do neck turning. Looks awesome though.
I've been waiting for Todd to come out with .17 and .20 caliber cutting heads. I reached out to him last fall and he said that they were being worked on. Gavin, do you know if I can replace the pilot and adjust the blades on an existing cutting head to accommodate those two calibers? I do a lot of prairie dog shooting and therefore a lot of brass prep in those two calibers. I really would like to be able to use this machine for those calibers. Thanks in advance! Joe
They have 20 cal now if your still looking picked one up the other day not sure about the 17
Do they have a set up for 300 AAC?
Couple of questions:
Are collect and cutter for 6.5x284Norma?
Dealers in Europe?
Thanks.
I really do appreciate all the work you do on rifle reloading, but those of us looking to get going with pistol calibers as well when components become available would like to see more on reloading those cartridges.
Probably not soon, if ever. Aside from chamfering inside and outside the neck, very little of the precision required for benchrest, bolt action, long distance shooting consistency is needed for pistols. You're better off looking into .223 reloading hardware for sport / 3-gun / 2-gun shooting where the focus is on maximum semi-auto feed reliability from the loads and simply hitting the target as opposed to hitting the same spot on the target several hundred yards (or more) downrange.
I got one.. really not sure how I live without for so long. Can't wait till they make pistol pilots
Awesome
@@Skilpadjie1 um.. not even a little bit... pistol or straight wall cases stretch as well just not as much as bottleneck cases. Iv never in all my time reloading had a case shrink.. furthermore wanting all your cases the same length after purchase is in my mind most important for your die setup... ask any pistol shooting competitors
@@Skilpadjie1 no disrespect intended man but you blew my mind. Please explain to me an instance where you cases got smaller.. also shooting 45 70 government and other straight wall rifle calibers also must be trimmed every once in a while as well
why have you never featured the Giraurd trimmer? its pretty much been one of the best if not THE best trimmer on the market for a long time
Why not neck turning also??
Have one works good , one downside is it's limited to calibers , adjustment bolt sucks for the money we paid , customer service is good, micrometer for fine adjustments would be great ! Also you better get seporste cutters for ur different brass , as it is pain in the ass to adjusts cutters urself one hair adjustment would make huge difference in cutting ,
The only thing surprising in a NC instead NF adjustment
I hate it when I see a great piece of reloading equipment. I always want it and usually end up getting one and end up always happily broke. Little Crow your days are numbered.
This thing is crying out for a micrometer adjuster or somewhere to put gauges.
Trimming is even quicker if you just let the trimmed cases drop out of the collet into a box attached below.
What are people doing to get their sized brass to fit over the pilots? My sized brass comes nowhere close to fitting over the pilots for a given caliber. For instance, my sized 6.5 Creedmoor is nowhere near .264 even after running an expander mandrel in the cases so I’ve had to turn down the pilots to fit my sized brass in all calibers I’m trimming in my Henderson. I can’t be the only one here with this issue.
👍💡
Couple of brass questions- Was it sized? Was it expanded? Prior to trim....
@@xxxterpxxx You might need to expand/size to get proper clearance on the mandrel at the cutting head is what I was getting at. Thanks for the input Terp.....
Please review WCT
Worlds Cheapest Trimmers
I am curious in a head to head challenge of this trimmer vs Giraud, which would prevail or if they are both equally good and it is strictly preference.
There is a video on RUclips comparing the two.
@@jaybigboy34 thank you, I will have to look it up.
brass shavings still just fall and pile up; too bad they can’t be handled like spent primers on a forster press. I’ve had a million brass slivers in my fingers from picking those up and disposing of them. Can’t they somehow be caught in a drip bowl?
Good video, but you didn’t mention you could buy the non-motorized version for almost half the price….
its great but i still have to chamfer non trimmed cases
Can you use us on a 65 creed more?
Yes indeed
@@Ultimatereloader thanks
Thanks but I’ll stick with the Giraud Power Trimmer. It’s Less and actually the best out there
I always want the shit I see on this channel until I realize I have Champaign taste on a beer budget.
Did I hear DC motor?
Ill take my RCBS trim pro with 3 way cutters it 1/4 the cost and I'm not that LAZY
Like the accuracy…but yeah,that’s pricey
The case length adjustment bolt and jam nut looks cumbersome and not as well designed as the rest of the unit.
If I didnt like ya I say I hate ya..LOL
Everytime you show us some thing great..Like my GIRAUD Power case trimmer..Then here you come with something else great.THANKS..Youre killing my bank account Gavin...LOL
Some please answer me!!!
Been watching this channel for a bit now....what the hell is this guy's actual name?
For the life of me, I cannot understand what he says in his intro, "Gavin ____ here with another video...", and his channel name is "GavinToobe". Is Toobe his last name or a play on the word 'tube' (like RUclips)?
$800 for a case trimmer??
We dont all have corporate sponsors
Nice tool but .... Sorry, I'll stick with my Frankford Arsenal Precision Case Trimmer. At $60 it trims to within .002 also and in use it's a lot more constant than that. It doesn't chamfer and deburr but for $450 the Henderson better, I'll leave that duty to my $70 Hornady Case Prep Duo or just my $8 Lyman Tool. Only takes 2 sec / case. Why don't you do a "Bang for the Buck" video ? Start to finish. A used press, a scale and dies picked up at a gun show, hit the Lee counter for trimming and accessories. Load for 308 or 6.5 Creedmoor just for giggles. Help out the new guy just wanting to start reloading, let's see just how cheaply you can turn out a round of quality ammo like you were just starting out. IMHO that would be great. I did that for my nephew and got him into reloading 9mm and 223 with a Lyman Spartan Press, a RCBS 5-10 Scale, dies bought at a gun show for $45 for both and the most expansive part, a $30 Lee Auto Prime XR. A few Lee trimmers and a chamfer tool and he was in business for just over $125 and his new Savage Axis ll in 223 and his AR both shoot sub-moa at 100 yards with his handloads.
As others have mentioned $700-$800 and it doesn’t even have a micrometer adjustment for trimling? Lame.
What the Supreme Court did today was awesome!
Sweet trimmer, but $439.00 for something that I can do with a 6.09 tool...no thanks
450$ ..yeah.. not for the normal reloader
$750. $450 is the non-motor version of it.