@@scottishblacklab I was impressed, Okoii actually liked the game and wasn't doing the *wink-wink* thing like ever other person Raid ever sponsored. Still not interested when I can just play TW and a dozen other actual games, but...
The Casket of Souls is supposed to have an option for Casket Guard, of which you could only have two, but they're basically on the same level as base Necrotects, so the Casket should still be able to beat a weapon crew barring some truly terrible rolls. The Casket not dying was supposed to be pretty important, since it had a 1/3 chance to wreck everything around it when it died, if I remember right.
@@LordVader1094 because the way that total war play out will make alot of them not fun and sometime frustrating. Just look at rampage, people hate that mechanic.
@@knell18897 funnily enough; Rampage was a mechanic that on tabletop was something the player had much more control over. The way it qorks on the game is different and it is worse
@@gustavogoncalves1102 That's my favorite bit of info to tell people. It leaves them so defeated knowing the one time they stuck in a TT flavor effect, it was horribly done. Lol
I legitimately burst out laughing when TWO whole stacks of wolf riders charged that infantry formation and did absolutely zero damage. Like, holy shit, that's bad.
6:08 It's their weapon strength. Only 16 models with the same weapon strength as shielded Chosen, which have 80 models, plus they don't have much AP. They are like Trolls but with half the weapon strength and no AP.
Why not just get regular necromancers with carts? Which, by the way, is way more overpowered than it looks. They have 10 attack and 8 damage. Even still a full stack of necros can summon 240 stacks of zombies from start to end of battle. Archers are irrelevant, since they will run out of ammo fast. Infantry fight until they get exhausted and die. Heroes one shot each zombie they hit, that still take them like 20 strikes to defeat a single zombie horde. Every time you summon a new horde, all the 10 remaining zombies get healed by 80 hp.
I played the earlier part of my experience with the game thinking that the Grail Reliquae was a Bretonnian legendary lord until I found it in the Bretonian roster I saw this thing being carried by peasants in a fight against Bretonnia and I thought "lmao that's super funny" and didn't notice it wasn't the lord
Here's how I got cavalry to work, because my Repanse de Lyonesse campaign had me in a tissy until I figured out what to do. Cavalry sucks... as fighters. They're just crowd control, fast and bulky units designed to shove other not so bulky units to where you want them. Full cavalry stacks aren't as effective as having regular infantry intertwined with them. They don't have to be good, use peasant mobs if you like, all they have to do is hold the enemy. Then, have the cavalry swoop in from the sides and/or back. Once the cavalry is done charging, pull them back, rinse and repeat until an army gives up and set up again. Archers love this because cavalry has this tendency to just compact units together into dense lines, allowing bowmen to not need to aim quite so hard.
Ah the grail relique stack. The only stack that was so boring that it forced legend to break his own rule and use magic. So damn boring I wonder how many of you reading this noticed I spelled it wrong.
I think cav should have had shockwave damage and hit multiple units on the first 5 seconds of charge, they end up doing good damage but they don't act like cav and just punch through infantry formations. Seriously, two hundred plus kilo's of charging armoured animal being stopped by three ranks of meat puppets is crazy.
Aspiring champion doomstack might be worth looking into again with archaons faction Will take 100 plus turns to get the researches done but might be worth a look
Yeh, Aspiring Champions have a model count issue. They deal less damage per hit than Forsaken and there's 5 times as many Forsaken in a unit as there are Champions. They'd need to have like 120 WS to be worth using as a combat unit.
Well no matter how good or bad, you can take solace in the fact that you DID entertain. And please, keep doing it. Ideas are there to be explored, even the bad ones. The worst ones even get a price, ever heard of the Darwin Award? ;)
A perfect hammer charge not doing any damage hurts my soul. Literally the only use for green skin gobbo wolf riders I can think of is shattering broken units a job done by _literally_ anything with a speed above fast (for a dwarf)
While I do love my Goblin Wolf Riders, White Lions and Caskets of Souls I cannot deny that they are among the worst highly useful units to make doom stacks with. Caskets of Souls have incredibly powerful chaff clearing but they need protection. Goblin Wolf Riders and White Lions are support units. If you get them onto most ranged units, and keep other units from coming to help them then they'll have payed for themselves not through the damage they did but through the damage they've prevented the enemy from doing.
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Holy shit that's definitely the first time across hundreds of videos I've ever seen anyone say anything to indicate playing Ya Boi Raid for more than whatever must be mandated in the boilerplate contract. They should give you more money.
My first brettonia campaign I rushed to recrut a full grail relique stack because I remembered Legend say that he thought the grail guys were one of the best stacks for brettonia but I thought he was talking about the reliques. Then after one battle I realized they were absolutely terrible and I quit playing brettonia because I thought their elite units must all be garbage if that was one of their best stacks.
I tried making an Aspiring Champions stack once my chaos campaign was rolling since I really liked their premise. They can barely take down half a stack of empire units lmao
They suffer from regular infantry Weapon Strength while having the unit size of Monstrous Infantry, Melee stats and all just aren't enough; they don't even have an impressive mass for how GIRTHY they look. Fun Fact: Despite all the bling they,ve got, AspChamps do NOT have AoE attacks AND they skip Leg Day with that pitiful 32 Speed... such lame, much cringe
I think the main problem with the cavalery is that they send hitted units to sky, they fly to back line and they have to deal with fresh units afterwards.
I've never really used cavalry as something to break enemy melee infantry crowds, especially not ones with charge defense. Cavalry imo is meant to be used to go around the back and get rid of ranged infantry units before flank or rear charging the rest of the melee. Doing this with mournfang riders has turned what would normally be defeats into victories.
LMAO! Looking at the Grail Reliquae close-up and I never realized they have a guy holding up a wooden horses head at the front... the only thing they need now is another peasant at the back with 2 coconut halves to create the appropriate sound effects ;-D And maybe someone singing "Brave Sir Robin"...
Ok so I played a skarsnick campaign (to be fair it was on like, normal difficulty so idk if it'd work on higher difficulties) but a squig eith night goblin rider doomstack under Skarsnick is amazing. I've seen them kill dragons in seconds it's like an army of land piranhas.
Damn, this may be the first time I see a raid shadow legends that actually feels like a proper commercial made by a content creator and not a pre-built script/gag script made by someone who either doesn't really play the game that much (or at all).
Yeah I'm highly disappointed by Warhammer Total War series cavalry as well, especially since in every other Total War next to archers your cav where always the most devastating units.
Maybe we need to put worst against the worst. As we've already seen, one grail reliquae can beat a casket of souls, but what about 1 unit of aspiring champions beating 12 grail reliquaes? Or goblin wolf riders?
just started recently with warhammer, so i am quite new to dommstacks and such.... did someone tried out a Luminarium Doom Stack? Before i played, a youtuber i followed said in his imperial playtrhough they go just "Pew" and thats it. tested it, and was surprised, how well they can focus down commander and single units. i think their only draw backs would be the short range, no firering arc and low ammo capacity...
Thing is with raid for me, personally I don't like them because of all of there advertisements which is fair I just get bored of them same adds. But I can say that their models are great and that's all I want to see just getting everyone maxed
Wasn’t surprised by some of these results. Also I have Raid a bit of a chance. Yeah it got some issues but it’s giving me some fun moments and yeah those models slap harder than they should. Skin walkers slap the hardest in my opinion and yes it’s because they look like beastmen (my favorite warhammer faction) also fat hippo dude. Gotta have my chunky hippo boy.
You think this is bad? Just wait until you have to fight The fay enchantress and her 19 blessed trebuchet stack. I'm just kidding. it was the most underwhelming artillery doomstack i've ever had to fight.
Artillery doomstacks, unless they're things like cygor, lizardmen, leadbelchers, what have you that can beat the shit out of things *and* shoot things from far away, are always going to be hit and miss. Brings to my mind that one NPC rogue army, the College of Pyrotechnics. While they wreck shit against slow infantry, when I encountered them on my beastmen playthrough they were laughable because beastmen are so *full speed ahead* as they are.
@3:50 That cav unit does take away about a third of the enemy's HP though. Not on the initial charge, but the charge bonus does persist for a few seconds.
I was buying tw w2 nowadays due to the fall’s sales, when i saw the mortal empires dlc for free… but after clicking on it there was the write “you must have both games to unlock this feature (tw w1 and the second)”. It’s a big amount of money to spend on both of them, for me😅. Do you have any suggestion?
I'd honestly say try and get them both, but otherwise go for the first game. Vortex campaign is alright, but I feel Mortal Empires is where the game really shines
Another one has fallen to the ruinous powers of raid shadow legends
at least the ad was sorta unique
@@scottishblacklab I was impressed, Okoii actually liked the game and wasn't doing the *wink-wink* thing like ever other person Raid ever sponsored. Still not interested when I can just play TW and a dozen other actual games, but...
@@SeventhSolar For all the hate it gets for being so heavily promoted it actually isn't bad.
@@Okoii how much are they paying you damn
@@Okoii It's ok Okoii, we want you to be able to eat and drink coffee for another month. Gotta get that Dollar Dollar bill.
The Aspiring Champion doomstack might need a revisit now that Archaons tech tree gives them every effect under the sun.
The Casket of Souls is supposed to have an option for Casket Guard, of which you could only have two, but they're basically on the same level as base Necrotects, so the Casket should still be able to beat a weapon crew barring some truly terrible rolls.
The Casket not dying was supposed to be pretty important, since it had a 1/3 chance to wreck everything around it when it died, if I remember right.
Much like Skaven artillery having a high likelihood to blow itself up, a lot of the flavour got removed.
@@LordVader1094 because the way that total war play out will make alot of them not fun and sometime frustrating. Just look at rampage, people hate that mechanic.
@@knell18897 funnily enough; Rampage was a mechanic that on tabletop was something the player had much more control over. The way it qorks on the game is different and it is worse
@@gustavogoncalves1102 That's my favorite bit of info to tell people. It leaves them so defeated knowing the one time they stuck in a TT flavor effect, it was horribly done. Lol
I legitimately burst out laughing when TWO whole stacks of wolf riders charged that infantry formation and did absolutely zero damage. Like, holy shit, that's bad.
Mfw when my tier 5 cav charges a goblin archer in the rear and doesnt even do half its health
So what you're saying is that we should play Laid Radow Shedonds
"...vegan archers wearing thigh-highs"
You had my curiosity, but now you have my attention.
I love how the mortar crews get scared, run away, then recoup morale and decide that they can go back and kill the casket without issue.
6:08 It's their weapon strength. Only 16 models with the same weapon strength as shielded Chosen, which have 80 models, plus they don't have much AP. They are like Trolls but with half the weapon strength and no AP.
They only had 12 models
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Have you ever considered 19 corpse carts with Ghorst so that each cart has its own bound zombie summon?
Why not just get regular necromancers with carts? Which, by the way, is way more overpowered than it looks. They have 10 attack and 8 damage. Even still a full stack of necros can summon 240 stacks of zombies from start to end of battle. Archers are irrelevant, since they will run out of ammo fast. Infantry fight until they get exhausted and die. Heroes one shot each zombie they hit, that still take them like 20 strikes to defeat a single zombie horde. Every time you summon a new horde, all the 10 remaining zombies get healed by 80 hp.
@@rumplstiltztinkerstein yeah shit is busted honestly lol
this aged well
I played the earlier part of my experience with the game thinking that the Grail Reliquae was a Bretonnian legendary lord until I found it in the Bretonian roster
I saw this thing being carried by peasants in a fight against Bretonnia and I thought "lmao that's super funny" and didn't notice it wasn't the lord
Here's how I got cavalry to work, because my Repanse de Lyonesse campaign had me in a tissy until I figured out what to do.
Cavalry sucks... as fighters. They're just crowd control, fast and bulky units designed to shove other not so bulky units to where you want them. Full cavalry stacks aren't as effective as having regular infantry intertwined with them. They don't have to be good, use peasant mobs if you like, all they have to do is hold the enemy. Then, have the cavalry swoop in from the sides and/or back. Once the cavalry is done charging, pull them back, rinse and repeat until an army gives up and set up again. Archers love this because cavalry has this tendency to just compact units together into dense lines, allowing bowmen to not need to aim quite so hard.
Ah the grail relique stack. The only stack that was so boring that it forced legend to break his own rule and use magic.
So damn boring I wonder how many of you reading this noticed I spelled it wrong.
>Aspiring Champions on this list
WELP, THAT SURE AGED WELL
I think it's time for a redo of Aspiring Champions under an Undivided LL.
I think cav should have had shockwave damage and hit multiple units on the first 5 seconds of charge, they end up doing good damage but they don't act like cav and just punch through infantry formations.
Seriously, two hundred plus kilo's of charging armoured animal being stopped by three ranks of meat puppets is crazy.
Aspiring champion doomstack might be worth looking into again with archaons faction
Will take 100 plus turns to get the researches done but might be worth a look
Never expected this video to be made
Yeh, Aspiring Champions have a model count issue. They deal less damage per hit than Forsaken and there's 5 times as many Forsaken in a unit as there are Champions.
They'd need to have like 120 WS to be worth using as a combat unit.
feels good to hear people talk about how completely underwhelming and shitty cavalry, cause i always think im playing them wrong
Well no matter how good or bad, you can take solace in the fact that you DID entertain.
And please, keep doing it. Ideas are there to be explored, even the bad ones.
The worst ones even get a price, ever heard of the Darwin Award? ;)
When you showed your favorite raid characters, I realized you definitely have a type
A perfect hammer charge not doing any damage hurts my soul. Literally the only use for green skin gobbo wolf riders I can think of is shattering broken units a job done by _literally_ anything with a speed above fast (for a dwarf)
aspiring champions doomstack right now must be BUSTED AS FUCK
Love these commentary style videos that give us a glimpse into your madness.
While I do love my Goblin Wolf Riders, White Lions and Caskets of Souls I cannot deny that they are among the worst highly useful units to make doom stacks with. Caskets of Souls have incredibly powerful chaff clearing but they need protection. Goblin Wolf Riders and White Lions are support units. If you get them onto most ranged units, and keep other units from coming to help them then they'll have payed for themselves not through the damage they did but through the damage they've prevented the enemy from doing.
now i just want to see a bad dragon doomstack
"And goblins have big and cool noses"
??? lmfao that got me
Would be really cool if you made a playlist of the songs you use in some of your videos, shit slaps
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18 Razagor herd pls
no
Hey, I am glad you took the Raid money but you shouldve made it more funny like others do it.
Holy shit that's definitely the first time across hundreds of videos I've ever seen anyone say anything to indicate playing Ya Boi Raid for more than whatever must be mandated in the boilerplate contract. They should give you more money.
Should revisit the aspiring champions doomstack again! They are such beasts now
Aspiring champion doomstack with Everchosen is now broken
My first brettonia campaign I rushed to recrut a full grail relique stack because I remembered Legend say that he thought the grail guys were one of the best stacks for brettonia but I thought he was talking about the reliques. Then after one battle I realized they were absolutely terrible and I quit playing brettonia because I thought their elite units must all be garbage if that was one of their best stacks.
That one tree guy asking for it for 4 months: LOLMAO HE DID IT!!
I tried making an Aspiring Champions stack once my chaos campaign was rolling since I really liked their premise. They can barely take down half a stack of empire units lmao
They suffer from regular infantry Weapon Strength while having the unit size of Monstrous Infantry, Melee stats and all just aren't enough; they don't even have an impressive mass for how GIRTHY they look.
Fun Fact: Despite all the bling they,ve got, AspChamps do NOT have AoE attacks AND they skip Leg Day with that pitiful 32 Speed... such lame, much cringe
I think the main problem with the cavalery is that they send hitted units to sky, they fly to back line and they have to deal with fresh units afterwards.
This Is just so amazingly awesome it emtered my top 10 videos on doomstacks
Loving the pink guy songs you sprinkled in there
You make the best raid shadow legends advertisement on RUclips xD they should use your clip for the actual ads that pop
love the content keep it up
"I'm not much of an elf guy"
aaand subscribed
Okoii, I unironically appreciate the fact you use Pink Guy's music in your vids :)
I've never really used cavalry as something to break enemy melee infantry crowds, especially not ones with charge defense. Cavalry imo is meant to be used to go around the back and get rid of ranged infantry units before flank or rear charging the rest of the melee. Doing this with mournfang riders has turned what would normally be defeats into victories.
Bretonia - hold my beer
@@deonbupka8907 Beer is for paesants
@@deonbupka8907 True, chivalrous Bretonnians drink Lady of the Lake's BATHWATER! 💪🏻😤
I didn't know the grail unit existed until last week. I have 2000 hours warhammer 2 experience
I subbed for the Dankula reference alone
Damn, those raid ogres ALMOST got me downloading the game
Up next, Gnoblar doomstack.
Bro, the 19 wolfrats doomstack on throt is genuinely kinda crazy, they squishy as hell but they oblitorate infantry
Best of the Worst, I do hope those hack frauds release another one soon.
I KNOW WHAT THAT IS!!!!!
LMAO! Looking at the Grail Reliquae close-up and I never realized they have a guy holding up a wooden horses head at the front... the only thing they need now is another peasant at the back with 2 coconut halves to create the appropriate sound effects ;-D
And maybe someone singing "Brave Sir Robin"...
man, didn't expect to see Count Dank in your vids. I need to watch him again, YT doesn't show me his vids because of course
5:05
Thats just really painful to witness lmao
Dank overlay was not on mzmy bingo sheet for this month. Loved ir
"aspiring champions worst doomstack" poorly aged thing
Ok so I played a skarsnick campaign (to be fair it was on like, normal difficulty so idk if it'd work on higher difficulties) but a squig eith night goblin rider doomstack under Skarsnick is amazing. I've seen them kill dragons in seconds it's like an army of land piranhas.
3:54 for me the biggest mistake of CA and mod comunity is there is no demigryph or elk (i dont count the giant ones with lips) and a lord/hero mount
Damn, this may be the first time I see a raid shadow legends that actually feels like a proper commercial made by a content creator and not a pre-built script/gag script made by someone who either doesn't really play the game that much (or at all).
0:26 it didn't have any fuckin OGRES
Yeah I'm highly disappointed by Warhammer Total War series cavalry as well, especially since in every other Total War next to archers your cav where always the most devastating units.
Cant wait to see Nurlings doomstack
Love your vids bro
this video brought me a lot of good memories. makes one with the best boomstacks too.
Someone PLEASE mod incendiary pigs into Bretonnia so that we can have a pigs vs. reliquae doomstack showdown. Fight fire with encumbered peasants!
Haha saw that Bad Dragon Logo !
Cav in other total war games are dope as hell and mandatory. How ever cav in warhammer is either too broken or why make it?
Knights of The Blazing Sun doomstack when..
@@Okoii Yeah the blazing boys finally will receive some atention.
Cant wait for total war 3 and the nurgling doomstack
3:33 charge reflect yay
Maybe we need to put worst against the worst. As we've already seen, one grail reliquae can beat a casket of souls, but what about 1 unit of aspiring champions beating 12 grail reliquaes? Or goblin wolf riders?
I just discover what Bad Dragon was thanks tho this video, a great legacy
The tree kin doom stacks are amazing when you get 30 of them with no upkeep and can recruit 2 full armies a turn 😂
remake the aspiring champion's doomstack video, they got buffed and i wanna see the new memes about them not being shit
I usually skip when RUclipsrs say "raid shadow legends" but the fact you didn't say the basic bitch lines. That i liked.
>"I sure hope they fix this (cavalry) in 3 [...]"
Boy, that didn't age well, did it?
18 Zoats with drycha and a wood elf treesinger with lore of life?
@4:23 i thought i was the only one who noticed 🤣
Imagine giving a 3080ti only to be called "some unnamed channel supporter"
The supporter was Raid and i bought the 3080ti from the ad sponsorship.
0:26 didn't have any fucking OGRES
Oh my god please god no not the goblin "doom stack"
just started recently with warhammer, so i am quite new to dommstacks and such.... did someone tried out a Luminarium Doom Stack? Before i played, a youtuber i followed said in his imperial playtrhough they go just "Pew" and thats it.
tested it, and was surprised, how well they can focus down commander and single units. i think their only draw backs would be the short range, no firering arc and low ammo capacity...
Treeman doomstacks works pretty well (on hard campaign, and not compared to some other doomstacks), treeman archer mod makes it more fun
then again im still playing wh2 could be that
Thing is with raid for me, personally I don't like them because of all of there advertisements which is fair I just get bored of them same adds. But I can say that their models are great and that's all I want to see just getting everyone maxed
Just finished watching a Dank vid then come to this and see the ghost of Dank's past, haunting.
Wasn’t surprised by some of these results.
Also I have Raid a bit of a chance. Yeah it got some issues but it’s giving me some fun moments and yeah those models slap harder than they should. Skin walkers slap the hardest in my opinion and yes it’s because they look like beastmen (my favorite warhammer faction) also fat hippo dude. Gotta have my chunky hippo boy.
What's a Grail Relique?
What game is the "Listen to me you knife-eared" thingy from? Looks interesting.
It isn't a game, it is from a Warhammer parody called Ravandils Quest.
Interesting graphics settings for a 3080ti
I'm on a 2070 Super with higher presets. Curious to why you set your graphics this way...
Recording quality, would be my guess. You could have a lesser processor with higher presets if you don't need to bother with high fidelity recordings.
Yeah that was pretty expected on the number 1 slot.
Aspiring champions need magical area damage for them to be good.
So now that champions of chaos has come out, Would you completely reconsider your champions doom stack
What was that game where the dwarf said knife eared piece of shit?
I built a grail relique once
You think this is bad? Just wait until you have to fight The fay enchantress and her 19 blessed trebuchet stack.
I'm just kidding. it was the most underwhelming artillery doomstack i've ever had to fight.
Artillery doomstacks, unless they're things like cygor, lizardmen, leadbelchers, what have you that can beat the shit out of things *and* shoot things from far away, are always going to be hit and miss. Brings to my mind that one NPC rogue army, the College of Pyrotechnics. While they wreck shit against slow infantry, when I encountered them on my beastmen playthrough they were laughable because beastmen are so *full speed ahead* as they are.
Freddie Dredd, nice.
@3:50 That cav unit does take away about a third of the enemy's HP though. Not on the initial charge, but the charge bonus does persist for a few seconds.
The ogre comment killed me lol
I was buying tw w2 nowadays due to the fall’s sales, when i saw the mortal empires dlc for free… but after clicking on it there was the write “you must have both games to unlock this feature (tw w1 and the second)”. It’s a big amount of money to spend on both of them, for me😅. Do you have any suggestion?
I'd honestly say try and get them both, but otherwise go for the first game. Vortex campaign is alright, but I feel Mortal Empires is where the game really shines
Really good vid