I was able to watch this and understand just fine without knowing Norwegian. I love seeing pilots from around the world training here in the United States. Always very good guests, and respectful of America. Hopefully, they get everything they need from Lockheed and the USAF.
I am Norwegian myself and i am honored and glad to have America and Americans as a ally and a partnering nation. I have a huge respect and admiration for the armed forces of the United States. Glad you enjoyd the video even if you dont understand Norwegian, but the important part is that it shows our nations collaboration for mutual benefit and world peace. i salute you sir.
damn, the F-16 didn't see a thing. and the fighter pilot of the F-16 admitted that any 4th generation generation aircraft doesn't have a fighting chance against 5th generation aircraft...
@@carpetclimber4027 F16 is not ancient,people on here way too much go after age of ACFT...the Vipers radar is very good..if any of you that Would know know the Viper pilot was not wearing his JHMC helmet,that helmet like the Eagles Drivers wear them for better weapon lock acquisitions and other things( was he carrying the aim 9x)..did not see one.and if you also noticed at the very end pure dog fight. You can see pilot talking in his oxygen mask but the video did not allow to hear what he was saying.so I am skeptical. I was stationed at Luke when we had the F15s..going to Nellis out Eagles scored hits on The F35..great avionics. Not a pure dogfighter
@@carpetclimber4027Yes indeed, there are techniques that will partially get around stealth though the stealthy aircraft will still be detected at shorter range. One technique is long wave length radar say radiating from the leading edge of the aircraft. The kind of frequencies used at the beginning of WW2. There are accuracy issues with this type of radar but it may be good enough for targeting. The other is to use very short high energy pulses that radiate at a number of frequencies some of which will find resonances. Infrared is another of course. I doubt any of these systems are in the F-16.
@@garbar7956 did you already see the comment you replied two earlier dumbass? Yak 414 is Lockheed Martin plane, and that was based off of an earlier Corsair airplane now owned by Lockheed.
Æ kjenne ett oppriktig hat, som vil vedvar hele mitt liv. Æ som følt mæ siiiick heldig å sitt i en cockbit på f-16 da æ va 7(?) bare fordi min gammelonkel va bak flymuseet. Daaaaaaaamn you!
If Ukraine conflict teach anything. Its that to avoid war you have to show strength. Only countries that seem weak are the ones invaded. Like Kuwait in the 90s, or 50s Korea.
This story combined my 6 loves American,s Norwegians American planes and the American high desert and American military aviation history and disney unit logos How luky am i to be a cameraman ... and yes i am of Norwegian ancestry John Amundsen
Norge mottok det første flyet i 2015, og de tre første landet i Norge i 2017, de ble satt i operativ bruk i 2019. Til nå har vi mottatt 37 fly (40 om de tre som skulle leveres før nyttår ble levert etter planen), hvor 10 fly er stasjonert i USA. F.o.m februar 2022 ble F16 pensjonert og F35 overtok beredskapen.
No F/A-18 pilots have ever said that, especially senior Hornet pilots who have flown the F-35. That includes senior USN, USMC, RCAF, and RAAF Hornet pilots. Even Super Hornet pilots have said that after flying the F-35C, if they never see the inside of a Super Bug again, they couldn’t care less, it’s that good. F-35 had to match or exceed the basic flight performance of both the F-16 and F/A-18 as part of the JSF program kinematic performance specs. It does that and more, especially when you compare combat-configured legacy birds with a combat-configured F-35. The performance advantage is noticeable to all the pilots, but its ability to see first and shoot first while remaining undetected are what really make it unfair.
Yeah, your right. We did try it also in F-15E SE and we can’t see the F-35 on our radar screen not even a small one. This aircraft is made for unconventional dog fight
@@gregorflopinski9016 it's the size of a bumblebee on radar, it's very difficult to track when in stealth mode. But you can hear if someone is stealing it 🤣
She's jumping up and touching the wing. Probably just playing around, same as when some people jump up and touch the top of a door frame when entering a building thats tall.
Indeed, biplanes had extremely good turn radius. Unfortunately for the Fokker dr1 and all other biplanes they flew at 1/11th the speed and wouldn't even be able to get guns on target before being shot down 😂
F-35's avionics suite places a sensor and sensory range indicator on your aircraft, SAM site, radar, ship, etc. That allows them to approach you from outside the azimuth of your sensors and get to within No Escape Zone of their missiles or even gun you, without you knowing what's happening. It doesn't matter if you have an AESA radar, IRST, or anything else even passive, because that's all accounted for in the pilot's helmet symbology, as well as the SA fused display on the flat panel.
How many F-35:s has Norway received? Won't the F-35 be obsolete after another 15 years more when all partner countries have received what they have been promised?
@@John.S.Patton : Ok, I prefere to be a box of rocks than an empty box or a damaged box :) factsmaps.com/pisa-worldwide-ranking-average-score-of-math-science-reading/ www.newsweek.com/nearly-1-5-americans-suffer-mental-illness-each-year-230608 Try to be realistic (do your own research and don't act as an GMO fed zombie) and ask yourself, how can F-35 be a successful after reading the history of this F(ailure)-35 project? They started 1992!!! You insinuate then that after 41 years these pieces of pure crap are not obsolete? en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Martin_F-35_Lightning_II_development You don't think the development of new radar systems such as for example the Swedish Giraffe and GlobalEye, EWS and FFI on fighter jets, UAs, hypersonic missiles etc will go faster than the F-35 can lift its fat ass??? Heard recently that USA has forbidden Israel to fly over Syria with their special built F-35s. Not because of USA suddenly respects Syrian air space, but USA is afraid of exposing the tin can to the Russian S300 system. Israel hasn't violated the Syrian air space since Russia put the S300 in Syria for almost 2 months now. USA can't take the risk. Doesn't this ring any bells???
Constantine Joseph "J-31" doesn't exist, the proper name is FC-31, that's a prototype. J-20 is only 4th generation(5th gens in NATO/Russian)fighter jets serving in PLAAF.
F-16 is not much faster.. Yeah, it is faster if you remove the fuel tank and all the weapons, but a plane without weapons and little fuel isn't worth much.
@@gaminglisjordin6329Iran 😂 says no but F14s have been implemented improvements 🎉 so Badly that Reagan says the Sovietunionen is an evil Empire 🎉🎉🎉 infact U AND SA might be cheeper with F35 since they are useless inn South Korea now infact they say it was Crap 😂😂😂 downs more like Norway could not multiple 5 to 8 mil inn 30 years since 90s top Kek BABIBI ❤❤❤
If you knew anything about it, you would know that 1. It isn't the most expensive fighter in the world, 2. Its not real crap. 3. It probably has the one of the best, if not the best chances of any fighter against any fighter.
U can't compare 4 gen to 5gen. There is a reason they are called 5gen. Radar sensors and stealth nothing that 4 gen aircraft have. Ask or watch any pilot from any country that flown 5 gen they will tell you real fast the advantage of stealth aircraft have. People might talk shit about f35 but in real combat what what you get in not talking a dogfight but real combat?
Boy what a stupid demonstration. Sending an old F16 straight and level against the F35 is equivalent to sending a Sopwith Camel against an ME109 in a WW scenario. It does not say or give any information on what Norway has bought. What we know so far is that the F35A is a hangar queen with unsustainable sustainment costs. In fact it doesn't even qualify as 5Gen because it can't super-cruise In addition F35 hasn't even reached IOT&E despite being in 20 years development. The Block 3F has limited capabilities, gun still can't shoot straight and shouldn't be fired because it can damage the fuselage, etc. If this would have been realistic e.g. against Gripen E four ship with IRST, GaN AESA, Meteor which can attack from behind in BVR, best in the world EW and counter measures - the F35 has a large chance of becoming toast.
If you are comparing an excellent and capable 4th generation fighter to a Sopwith Camel against the F-35, have you not proven the F-35 effectiveness? Stealth is not the only capability of the F-35. That is just a baseline, and all it needed to fight against the F-16. It did not even need to use its battle integration capabilities which are un matched.
I think your thoughts on the f35 are about 6 years old. Please talk to someone or do some research. It's an expensive jet, and it's hard to maintain, and there's still some bugs, but pretty much every airforce has come out and said it's been absolutely phenomenal over the last couple of years.
@@freddarau Right, this guy thinks we should just keep flying 4th Gen fighters “cuz they maneuver betteR!” Duh! Yeah buddy you can hang on to your Gripens or Mirages or whatever else your 3rd world Air Force can field and we’ll stick with modern technology.
I WANT TO SEE AN F35(NO EXTRA FUEL EXTERNAL TANKS),bye"STEALTH) CHASE A MIG 31.(With their new RDS/GPS system),if only the F35 could fly as high and fast as the MIG(Over MACH 2.2)...???!!!..NOT A CHANCE.NO WAY.....ADD THE F22...IF THEY COULD FIND PILOTS WANTING TO FLY THAT HIGH,WITH THEIR O2 FLAWED SYSTEM,STILL NOT FIXED.GOOD LUCK.
You really are incredibly stupid! You know nothing about aviation. Tests are used to find out what is wrong and to correct it. Do you think they haven't corrected this problem? Pilots dont die asphixed on each flight. You are a moron!
The price of innovation in technology is that the planes indeed are not as reliable, this has plauged every fighter in history almost. And it's not limited to the f 35, the f16 had it's kinks to work out. The Russians have maybe made one truly reliable plane, etc. They are not expected to be able to fly at any time. They do not make them to be as reliable as a 737. Commercial jets are made to fly 25000-30000 hours. Fighter jets are made for 2000-6000 hours
You are clearly basing this off of very subjective terms. Personally I find it very attractive. It's sleek in it's design. So I'm not sure what you are on about
I don't speak a word of Norwegian, but I love this program.
I was able to watch this and understand just fine without knowing Norwegian. I love seeing pilots from around the world training here in the United States. Always very good guests, and respectful of America. Hopefully, they get everything they need from Lockheed and the USAF.
🥰
I didn't understand a single word.
edit: nevermind it gets better as you keep watching XD
I am Norwegian myself and i am honored and glad to have America and Americans as a ally and a partnering nation. I have a huge respect and admiration for the armed forces of the United States. Glad you enjoyd the video even if you dont understand Norwegian, but the important part is that it shows our nations collaboration for mutual benefit and world peace. i salute you sir.
Yes, except a good fighter that can do its job.
Så bra :)
damn, the F-16 didn't see a thing. and the fighter pilot of the F-16 admitted that any 4th generation generation aircraft doesn't have a fighting chance against 5th generation aircraft...
Well, the F-16 is ancient now, with a bad radar.
@@carpetclimber4027 F16 is not ancient,people on here way too much go after age of ACFT...the Vipers radar is very good..if any of you that Would know know the Viper pilot was not wearing his JHMC helmet,that helmet like the Eagles Drivers wear them for better weapon lock acquisitions and other things( was he carrying the aim 9x)..did not see one.and if you also noticed at the very end pure dog fight. You can see pilot talking in his oxygen mask but the video did not allow to hear what he was saying.so I am skeptical. I was stationed at Luke when we had the F15s..going to Nellis out Eagles scored hits on The F35..great avionics. Not a pure dogfighter
F35 is a strike fighter not a dog!
@@virgilius7036 No, it's a multirole fighter just like F-16, F/A-18 and F-15E
@@carpetclimber4027Yes indeed, there are techniques that will partially get around stealth though the stealthy aircraft will still be detected at shorter range. One technique is long wave length radar say radiating from the leading edge of the aircraft. The kind of frequencies used at the beginning of WW2. There are accuracy issues with this type of radar but it may be good enough for targeting. The other is to use very short high energy pulses that radiate at a number of frequencies some of which will find resonances. Infrared is another of course. I doubt any of these systems are in the F-16.
My dad used to fix f16 before he killed himself in 2001 he loved his job rip dad (pappa)
33:28 haha Looking back and seeing that as the Enemy must be the scariest shit ever xD
It is fun to watch a Norwegian TV program on the 62nd Fighter Squadron and Norwegian fighter pilots training in Arizona.
F35 is like the ferrari of planes
F-22
@@nikmuhamadizzat9903 de selger ikke F-22
Vel, ikke akkurat...
would love to see this with English subs
Learn yourself the Worldlanguage Norwegian!
Thank you Norway, good plane... from 🇫🇮
Shame on you RUclips, I need subtitle for this. Looks interesting to watch
? Sub is on
Shame on you who do not understand Norwegian! Learn yourself the Worldlanguage.
@@lovemusikk it is but nothing shows up
@@Camouflage27 lol
@Jonathan Keegan Did you find subtitles or did you hack your girlfriends Instaxxx?
08:20" - is that Rocco Siffredi???? I didn't know he was in the Norwegian Air Force. Or was he just filming Rocco Ravishes Oslo? :)
En Perfekt video.
good vidoe
Pretty awesome video, especially towards latter 1/3. F16 can’t see f-35, it just creeps up and kills them.
Do you have an English version subtitles?
Learn yourself the Worldlanguage Norwegian!
Niks ;)
Really cool to see Norway fielding F-35s, maybe Finland is next
It is yak-141
@@garbar7956 Yak-141 wouldn't stand a chance buddy.
@@garbar7956 did you already see the comment you replied two earlier dumbass? Yak 414 is Lockheed Martin plane, and that was based off of an earlier Corsair airplane now owned by Lockheed.
Finnes det en video der F35 går opp mot Grippen, i trening?
Æ kjenne ett oppriktig hat, som vil vedvar hele mitt liv.
Æ som følt mæ siiiick heldig å sitt i en cockbit på f-16 da æ va 7(?) bare fordi min gammelonkel va bak flymuseet. Daaaaaaaamn you!
finnes denne episoden med engelsk tekst på nett?
F35 is Finlandia nex plane
air craft is for this nexte generation
hate war, but looove aviation
Whole point in this investment is to AVOID war
If Ukraine conflict teach anything. Its that to avoid war you have to show strength. Only countries that seem weak are the ones invaded. Like Kuwait in the 90s, or 50s Korea.
This story combined my 6 loves American,s Norwegians American planes and the American high desert and American military aviation history and disney unit logos How luky am i to be a cameraman ... and yes i am of Norwegian ancestry John Amundsen
Rocco Sidfredi?
Eg ville bli pilot! Det er så så elegant og bra! Er det no for seint? Nei!
I agree with everything that was said.
Greg, i thought your snark did not deserve to die unrecognized. Here's belated props.
Super fain
my dream is to one day fly an f-35
Me to
and 7th love F16 's ...lol
F-30 FAM
Rocco Siffredi became a fighter jet pilot!
Jeg fikk beskjed om at jeg ikke kunne bli jagerpilot, men har så sinnsykt stor respekt for de som er det.
Unnskyld for at jeg spør, men hvorfor?
@@CptMitchu de sa det på sesjon. Ikke godt nok syn. Ble ikke lei meg altså.
20:27 "Miljløet De Grønne Commander's cup - Most Fit Squadron"
Spennende!
❤
1:42 "Oh my Gud"
Oh mai gudd sa han
put the subs man !!!
Det kjørte over huset mitt igår kveld og jeg merka ikke det jeg sovde som en stein
Stealth?
Maroc next 🇲🇦👑
31:20 damn..
Anyway to get this in English
Learn yourself the Worldlanguage Norwegian!
@@Camouflage27 i will get right on that.
@@scottyford4224 Very good :-)
Litt kult at jeg var bak F-35 og F-16 hele tiden, men de så meg aldri :)
I did not see you
@@pellebergstroem2516 hjemmelaget iron man rustning :)
@@klab3929 Du er sååå flink da ;) Din skøyer!
siden når fikk norge f35s?
Norge mottok det første flyet i 2015, og de tre første landet i Norge i 2017, de ble satt i operativ bruk i 2019. Til nå har vi mottatt 37 fly (40 om de tre som skulle leveres før nyttår ble levert etter planen), hvor 10 fly er stasjonert i USA. F.o.m februar 2022 ble F16 pensjonert og F35 overtok beredskapen.
Takk før at du leger ut kan du lege ut di nye video pils 😁😁
Johan Strand mmm pils
What abot and f18 super hornet Vs f35 some pilots say they prefer f18
Keyword "some".
PcWizard F-35 would see the F-18 on the radar Mills away before the F-18 even those.
No F/A-18 pilots have ever said that, especially senior Hornet pilots who have flown the F-35. That includes senior USN, USMC, RCAF, and RAAF Hornet pilots. Even Super Hornet pilots have said that after flying the F-35C, if they never see the inside of a Super Bug again, they couldn’t care less, it’s that good. F-35 had to match or exceed the basic flight performance of both the F-16 and F/A-18 as part of the JSF program kinematic performance specs. It does that and more, especially when you compare combat-configured legacy birds with a combat-configured F-35. The performance advantage is noticeable to all the pilots, but its ability to see first and shoot first while remaining undetected are what really make it unfair.
Does this mean you can just take off with a F-35 and never get noticed? lol
No, you can see them on radar, especially with the landing gear out. All the stealth is meant to do is make the radar crosssection smaller
@@gregorflopinski9016 It's a joke :/ the hall is shaped to absorb or not reflect radar waves in the same direction.
Yeah, your right. We did try it also in F-15E SE and we can’t see the F-35 on our radar screen not even a small one. This aircraft is made for unconventional dog fight
@@gregorflopinski9016 it's the size of a bumblebee on radar, it's very difficult to track when in stealth mode. But you can hear if someone is stealing it 🤣
Norge må forsvare seg, det er ikke spørsmål om at det var et riktig valg.
Og hvem er er du som har laget denne vieon? Og hvilken rolle har du av denne videoen?
vi har tjent med å valgt med å valgt 39 JAS Gripen
Sorry, men nei lol
så du vil heller betale 50% av prisen for 10% av kapasiteten?
42:13 What is she doing ?????
She's jumping up and touching the wing. Probably just playing around, same as when some people jump up and touch the top of a door frame when entering a building thats tall.
The biggest problem with the F35 for Norway is that they have only one airbase. In case of war that will be the first target.
They have more then one
where do you even get that information? We have way more than one where the F35 can land my man
We have bodø and Ørland atm. soon Evenes. and many other bases where they can land and park.
rygge has the ability for multiple f 35s aswell, that they centralized them during peace times for training doesn't mean they can't use other bases
We have wayy more than one airbase though..
The entire country is covered with airbases lol
fokker dr1 would out turn every modern fighter
ok?
It's pretty cool tbh...
Indeed, biplanes had extremely good turn radius. Unfortunately for the Fokker dr1 and all other biplanes they flew at 1/11th the speed and wouldn't even be able to get guns on target before being shot down 😂
And the award for Most Awkward Host Ever goes to...
Agre. But like 90% of Norwegians are like that
@@3vak960 not true
Operation oxcart
Someone english cc this
Learn yourself the Worldlanguage Norwegian!
Er det mulig å få det tekstet? ops, nei, det er fra TvNorge... Tommel ned..
F17 dont see F35
F-35's avionics suite places a sensor and sensory range indicator on your aircraft, SAM site, radar, ship, etc. That allows them to approach you from outside the azimuth of your sensors and get to within No Escape Zone of their missiles or even gun you, without you knowing what's happening. It doesn't matter if you have an AESA radar, IRST, or anything else even passive, because that's all accounted for in the pilot's helmet symbology, as well as the SA fused display on the flat panel.
@@LRRPFco52 I don't think of any other aircraft that has taken sensor fusion to the same level as the F-35
@@LRRPFco52
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@@LRRPFco52 Poor little rooskies.
How many F-35:s has Norway received?
Won't the F-35 be obsolete after another 15 years more when all partner countries have received what they have been promised?
if you think the f35 will be obsolete in 15 year's you are fucking dumb as a box of rock's
No.
@@John.S.Patton : Ok, I prefere to be a box of rocks than an empty box or a damaged box :)
factsmaps.com/pisa-worldwide-ranking-average-score-of-math-science-reading/
www.newsweek.com/nearly-1-5-americans-suffer-mental-illness-each-year-230608
Try to be realistic (do your own research and don't act as an GMO fed zombie) and ask yourself, how can F-35 be a successful after reading the history of this F(ailure)-35 project?
They started 1992!!! You insinuate then that after 41 years these pieces of pure crap are not obsolete?
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Martin_F-35_Lightning_II_development
You don't think the development of new radar systems such as for example the Swedish Giraffe and GlobalEye, EWS and FFI on fighter jets, UAs, hypersonic missiles etc will go faster than the F-35 can lift its fat ass???
Heard recently that USA has forbidden Israel to fly over Syria with their special built F-35s. Not because of USA suddenly respects Syrian air space, but USA is afraid of exposing the tin can to the Russian S300 system. Israel hasn't violated the Syrian air space since Russia put the S300 in Syria for almost 2 months now. USA can't take the risk. Doesn't this ring any bells???
Constantine Joseph
"J-31" doesn't exist, the proper name is FC-31, that's a prototype.
J-20 is only 4th generation(5th gens in NATO/Russian)fighter jets serving in PLAAF.
You, must be one of the dumbest ppl on the planet.
Jeg had set mange F 35 som flyr
Det var en vag setning. Hva mener du? Dårlig norsk....
SU-35😂😂😂
What the hell language are they speaking? Very hard to understand.
Norwegian
English ofc. dumb dumb
Learn the worldlanguage Norwegian :-)
This is Norwegian planes. Norwegian film. Norwegian air force and Norwegian language for Norwegians to understand.
@@rubricen What?
ruclips.net/video/5ubTYjyhOP4/видео.html
F35 VS SU34
ruclips.net/video/5ubTYjyhOP4/видео.html
Ok.
Enyone Else Who think the f18 os good enuth
LOL russian paid troll
kondolerer
Can we send someone who doesnt speak Solberg English? It hurts my ears.
🤣
I disagree
F16 er så mye vakrere å se på, men jaja
Enig f-16 er så mye finer
Tja. Synes denne ser "litt" mer bad Ass ut.
Why not simply outrun the F-35 when in close combat?
F-16 is much faster.
I guess its never ment you should come close to the f35. If that should happend the f35 is dead...
lol
F-16 is not much faster.. Yeah, it is faster if you remove the fuel tank and all the weapons, but a plane without weapons and little fuel isn't worth much.
Why not by a igloo on Greenland or fantasy figurines. Bc it does not help the defense of our home and loved ones
Sure, but the missile is much much faster
Skrot F-35.
nei
F-16 hva mye bedre
@@rice517 hAR DU SYNDROM ELLER?
@@gaminglisjordin6329Iran 😂 says no but F14s have been implemented improvements 🎉 so Badly that Reagan says the Sovietunionen is an evil Empire 🎉🎉🎉 infact U AND SA might be cheeper with F35 since they are useless inn South Korea now infact they say it was Crap 😂😂😂 downs more like Norway could not multiple 5 to 8 mil inn 30 years since 90s top Kek BABIBI ❤❤❤
SU-35 😂😂😂 ANYONE😮😮😮
Can't understand this at all.
It's Norwegian
You do know that the world have thousands of languages right?
Good
@@username90291its Russian SU-35
DONT WORRIE ITS AN SU-35 🎉🎉🎉 LONG TIME LONG LIVE KEKISTAN❤❤❤
It is yak-141🇷🇺
The Yak-141 is a copy of the american Convair Model 200.
Lockheed Martin worked with russia to build the yak-141
How do you know Russians are concerned about the F-35? It's magic, every time one is mentioned a Russian appears. . 🇺🇸🤟
No, but partly it is
@@Camouflage27 obviously not all of it, but I remember watching a video talking about how Lockheed helped russia on building the yak-141
F22 er bedre F35
Jeg har sett på youtube F22 flyr litt raskere har bedre evner å ta triks i lufta.
@@halfpricewizard F-22 Er faktisk bedre enn F-35 Selv om den ble laget i 80-tallet.
@@torchedegg det jo derfor lockheed ikke vil exportere F22
@@Knox-yk1cc Jepp, de vil ikke at russland og deres allierte til å få tak i F-22 serien.
Men F-35 har mer avanserte funksjoner da, som STOVL Og VTOL.
Jesus is muslim?
Norway bought the most expensive fighter in the world . Is it a real crap , as said ? Does it stand a chance against other fighters ?
If you knew anything about it, you would know that 1. It isn't the most expensive fighter in the world, 2. Its not real crap. 3. It probably has the one of the best, if not the best chances of any fighter against any fighter.
Typhoon is the most expensive, slightly before Rafale, more than 110 millions euros. F35 98 millions dollars (86 millions euros)
U can't compare 4 gen to 5gen. There is a reason they are called 5gen. Radar sensors and stealth nothing that 4 gen aircraft have. Ask or watch any pilot from any country that flown 5 gen they will tell you real fast the advantage of stealth aircraft have. People might talk shit about f35 but in real combat what what you get in not talking a dogfight but real combat?
TURKEY AZERBAIJAN
Boy what a stupid demonstration. Sending an old F16 straight and level against the F35 is equivalent to sending a Sopwith Camel against an ME109 in a WW scenario. It does not say or give any information on what Norway has bought. What we know so far is that the F35A is a hangar queen with unsustainable sustainment costs. In fact it doesn't even qualify as 5Gen because it can't super-cruise In addition F35 hasn't even reached IOT&E despite being in 20 years development. The Block 3F has limited capabilities, gun still can't shoot straight and shouldn't be fired because it can damage the fuselage, etc. If this would have been realistic e.g. against Gripen E four ship with IRST, GaN AESA, Meteor which can attack from behind in BVR, best in the world EW and counter measures - the F35 has a large chance of becoming toast.
If you are comparing an excellent and capable 4th generation fighter to a Sopwith Camel against the F-35, have you not proven the F-35 effectiveness? Stealth is not the only capability of the F-35. That is just a baseline, and all it needed to fight against the F-16. It did not even need to use its battle integration capabilities which are un matched.
@@kcav1255 what are u smokin? Get u r references straight man!
I think your thoughts on the f35 are about 6 years old. Please talk to someone or do some research. It's an expensive jet, and it's hard to maintain, and there's still some bugs, but pretty much every airforce has come out and said it's been absolutely phenomenal over the last couple of years.
This comment looks stupid as hell nowadays. now the F-35 is cheaper to produce then the F-16 and to maintain.
@@freddarau Right, this guy thinks we should just keep flying 4th Gen fighters “cuz they maneuver betteR!” Duh! Yeah buddy you can hang on to your Gripens or Mirages or whatever else your 3rd world Air Force can field and we’ll stick with modern technology.
I WANT TO SEE AN F35(NO EXTRA FUEL EXTERNAL TANKS),bye"STEALTH) CHASE A MIG 31.(With their new RDS/GPS system),if only the F35 could fly as high and fast as the MIG(Over MACH 2.2)...???!!!..NOT A CHANCE.NO WAY.....ADD THE F22...IF THEY COULD FIND PILOTS WANTING TO FLY THAT HIGH,WITH THEIR O2 FLAWED SYSTEM,STILL NOT FIXED.GOOD LUCK.
An F35 detect and fire the Mig more than 130km away. So high and speed are no more relevant in modern air warfare. You dont understand nothing!
That Oxygen problem has been fixed.
The Fulcrum is y'all's only hope there, my friend.....
You really are incredibly stupid! You know nothing about aviation. Tests are used to find out what is wrong and to correct it. Do you think they haven't corrected this problem? Pilots dont die asphixed on each flight. You are a moron!
Mig-31 can only pull 5 G and it has high radar signature, defenseless against F-35
Skikkelig god, gammeldags propaganda.
Det sier typiske falske troll som deg. Dette er tvn for en del år siden. Insider.
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TRYNE DITT ER PROPEGANDA JÆVLA TAPER
@@lovemusikkSU-35 😂😂😂😂
Propaganda for tech from the 80th. Old and mostly grounded.
If you have weapons like that, you better just have friends sourounding you.
@Phil Collins
Aha, a clairvoyant.
But like all clairvoyants, he is wrong.
I've already flown SEJs as he probably peed in his pants.
@@n.r.2258 u mad? stay mad LOOOL
Radar signature reduction is not propaganda, makes me wonder if you know anything at all about this.
The price of innovation in technology is that the planes indeed are not as reliable, this has plauged every fighter in history almost. And it's not limited to the f 35, the f16 had it's kinks to work out. The Russians have maybe made one truly reliable plane, etc. They are not expected to be able to fly at any time. They do not make them to be as reliable as a 737. Commercial jets are made to fly 25000-30000 hours. Fighter jets are made for 2000-6000 hours
@@elementalgolem5498
….. if they fly 2000-6000 h
DRA ÅT H-E NORGE!
You really need those shades to hide the fact that you're flying the the ugliest aircraft in the history of aviation.
tosk
Never seen the Aircraft it beat? The Boeing X-32.
@@Harldin He he he he he he he
I wont say the ugliest aircraft’s in the world seen saap gripen lol
You are clearly basing this off of very subjective terms. Personally I find it very attractive. It's sleek in it's design. So I'm not sure what you are on about