Perfect timing on starting a Logan series! I've relied upon you to teach me how to use my Atlas lathes, and it just so happens that I just bought a Logan. Really looking forward to the series. Thanks for sharing!
Another GREAT video mrpete I about fell out of my chair when I seen you changed the head on the mill cuz I know how many times you said you hate with a passion to tram the head- but it worked! Two thumbs up
Really great project Mr. Pete. Thanks for sharing it with us. That casting came out BeaUtYful...didn't see any inclusions at all. All men have their vises, some good, some not so good...I raised my hand for the B&S! Looking forward to the dovetail measure and cutting! ~PJ
A Great start to a great video. Although dovetails are a good idea, I don't believe they are absolutely necessary. An easy way to make the gib, without tilting your milling head is to place a sacrificial piece of material, steel or whatever you have to the bed. make a cut Along one edge. Place your gib material In the groove you just made, and clamp it down, the wide side parallel with the table. now using a dovetail cutter, Cut along the edge of the material. Flip it over and make the second cut. Make sure the sharp edge of the material is down toward the table when you flip it. this is the way I have to do it, because the head on my Mill drill does not tilt. Looking forward to your next installment. I always enjoy your videos. thank you.
Woodworking, casting, machining, now if there is any welding and grinding you'll have it all in one project. Ha ha,. Then there's the angle milling. This is a great little series for showing how to make the part from A to Z. Can't wait for the second part. My angle vise is also a cheapie but it is a different style and is more ridged and a little more accurate. For the little projects I do, so far I haven't had to tile the head. My angle vise cost ~$40.00. It makes a very odd companion to my Kurt.
Man I could tell on the video that vise was out. Also looks like you a bare cutter strike on top of the jaw towards the end of the cut. Amazing work. Thanks.
Another excellent video, sir. Thank you for making them. Regarding your mistake, I think it's a good thing for students and "newbies" to see someone as experienced and skilled as yourself make a (rare) minor mistake. I remember as a high school student taking shop classes, it was quite intimidating and frustrating that each of us made mistakes and yet the teacher never seemed to and it gave us the feeling we would never be good enough. By the end of the year, though almost all of us passed the class, we still made the occasional minor error, but then one year (or often just one semester) is not an apprenticeship and nowhere near enough to master all aspects of the trade, but we would not have felt such hopelessness if we had seen the teacher make just one little mistake during the course of the year, just to show that he is human, too.
Loved it Mrpete, nice job on the casting. I need a way gard cast for my large metal shaper and need to learn how its done that way I can make some goodies myself 😊. Thanks for sharing.
There's only been one perfect man, who made no mistakes, and he was a carpenter. Another great video. I have got to lean how to cast parts like that. Could you again show the recipe, I think it was your fathers, for casting sand?
This is great. I don't have a taper attachment and I need to make a new gib for my Atlas 3996. Thanks for both, maybe a taper attachment could be made.
Lyle, surely the ally part did not need a close fitting dovetail or gib strip. It will serve no use, it just needed to be clearance on the lathe saddle dovetail. The accuracy will be in the original cross slide, or am I missing something here ? Other make taper turning attachments just have a part that bolts onto the cross slide and does not use the original dovetail at all. I eagerly await your thoughts on this.
Interestingly enough, this is exactly how I received my Sheldon 12 x 36" lathe... missing only the exact same part of the taper attachment as yours! I have to wonder why... taken off and stuck in a drawer somewhere, soon to be forever separated. I have given much thought over the years as to what I was going to do with mine... I poured over multiple old Sheldon lathe pics, but was unable to see the exact part that was missing from mine. I was told not to use steel to fabricate the missing part... only use cast iron because it will not flex under load... what do you think? I do not have a piece of cast that large. I am now watching your video with extreme interest! Thanks again... you always hit the nail on the head somehow.
No need for the dovetails in the extension piece. I have the extended cross slide pictured in that old Monty Ward cat. I believe they made a short attachment version too, bolt-on, like you’re creating. The only portion that has dovetails and gib is on the 6 inch or so where the compound sits, the rest is open and similar in clearance to the chip guard you removed.
+Wayne. I wrote and told Lyle that I thought a good fit on the ally part was not needed as a lot of other taper attachments just have a bolt on part to pull / push the cross slide. He has replied it is needed for rigidity purposes. I would not have thought so as the rear guide bar is so thin compared to other makes.
The original piece was one casting, but Mr. Pete's piece is an extension on the factory cross-slide that's going to rely on two small bolts to connect the two. I think the rigidity and support the extra dove tail provides will greatly reduce the stress on the two small bolts. Also help keep the two pieces aligned with each other.
Mr Pete, I was wondering. Could you have used your Dovetail cutter on the gibb. If yes, how would you have set it up. I like the video. I always learn something new watching you in the shop. Many thanks!
I have one of those tilting import vises too. Like a lot of Chinese stuff, you can't assume much of anything about it. I spent a Saturday and "fixed" the vise so that you could actually do some reasonably decent hobby work with it.
I'm curious why you needed to extend the dovetail into the extension piece that you cast? Wouldn't the Cross-slide provide the necessary rigidity needed?
Mister Pete, my Logan Model 200 came with the cross slide extension, but the taper attachment was long gone. I'd give it to you if you wanted it, or maybe one of your viewers might want it. I've taken up the space with a digital scale.
It's under 12" long, so it would fit in a medium Priority Mail box. Shouldn't be more than $15 or so. How do we take this offline? I don't think RUclips has a way to send private messages, and I'm wary of sending contact info in the clear.
fair weather foundry? Always felt that cold winter evenings were the nicest for doing foundry work. Granted, working cold sand wasn't so nice, but working around a hot furnace while wearing gloves, apron, face shield isn't very nice in hot weather either.
Just a thought, but I would have simply bolted the connector rigidly to the cross slide and removed the lead screw, for taper turning. What yave I missed?
The great and all mighty tubalcain I'm in trouble I have a set of 0 to 6 in mics starrett there all froze and some a little rusted more than others how do I get them working agian? Please help
mrpete222 thank you so much for responding and I love your videos just put that out there what do you mean by solvent like trans mission fluid I'm sorry like I said I'm new to this stuff
Just like there are Ford people and Chevy people, years ago there were Monkey-Wards people and Sears people. My family was a monkey-ward family, Powr-kraft tools instead of Craftsman. But we had an Atlas lathe, not a Logan, so not that loyal I guess.
did you had to stay after school clean up. was the teacher was going to throw you out of the class too. wonder if the teacher is going to take off marks for not the right tools used too. maybe a note send home with have his parents to read. the good old day's
G'day Kevin here from Australia.
Mr pete thoughly enjoying this series. You never ceases to amaze me in what you can do .
Keep the videos coming. 🤠
Sir, always a pleasure to watch one of your vids and refreshing not to hear someones idea of "nice" music in the background.
Thank you for noticing that I do not play bad music to annoy people and annoy myself
How about some nice rap music?
Perfect timing on starting a Logan series! I've relied upon you to teach me how to use my Atlas lathes, and it just so happens that I just bought a Logan. Really looking forward to the series. Thanks for sharing!
Wow! Never did I think I would live to see the day mr Pete would tilt the head of the bp. Great job !!!!!
Another GREAT video mrpete I about fell out of my chair when I seen you changed the head on the mill cuz I know how many times you said you hate with a passion to tram the head- but it worked! Two thumbs up
Really great project Mr. Pete. Thanks for sharing it with us. That casting came out BeaUtYful...didn't see any inclusions at all. All men have their vises, some good, some not so good...I raised my hand for the B&S! Looking forward to the dovetail measure and cutting! ~PJ
A Great start to a great video. Although dovetails are a good idea, I don't believe they are absolutely necessary. An easy way to make the gib, without tilting your milling head is to place a sacrificial piece of material, steel or whatever you have to the bed. make a cut Along one edge. Place your gib material In the groove you just made, and clamp it down, the wide side parallel with the table. now using a dovetail cutter, Cut along the edge of the material. Flip it over and make the second cut. Make sure the sharp edge of the material is down toward the table when you flip it. this is the way I have to do it, because the head on my Mill drill does not tilt.
Looking forward to your next installment. I always enjoy your videos. thank you.
Now this is the kind of stuff I subscribed for Lyle. I am sure this has been condensed considerably but I like it plenty, with mistakes herein!
That is a really nice casting. You never fail to impress.
Great job mrpete. Looking forward to the next part. Thanks for sharing. regards from the UK
It’s great to get a smile and learn something, great work, David from Iowa
Woodworking, casting, machining, now if there is any welding and grinding you'll have it all in one project. Ha ha,. Then there's the angle milling. This is a great little series for showing how to make the part from A to Z. Can't wait for the second part.
My angle vise is also a cheapie but it is a different style and is more ridged and a little more accurate. For the little projects I do, so far I haven't had to tile the head. My angle vise cost ~$40.00. It makes a very odd companion to my Kurt.
Great Saturday morning viewing, and a very worthy project! Looking forward to part 2. Thanks, Mr. Pete! :-)
Man I could tell on the video that vise was out. Also looks like you a bare cutter strike on top of the jaw towards the end of the cut. Amazing work. Thanks.
Mr. Pete's been a maker since before there were makers.
Another excellent video, sir. Thank you for making them. Regarding your mistake, I think it's a good thing for students and "newbies" to see someone as experienced and skilled as yourself make a (rare) minor mistake. I remember as a high school student taking shop classes, it was quite intimidating and frustrating that each of us made mistakes and yet the teacher never seemed to and it gave us the feeling we would never be good enough. By the end of the year, though almost all of us passed the class, we still made the occasional minor error, but then one year (or often just one semester) is not an apprenticeship and nowhere near enough to master all aspects of the trade, but we would not have felt such hopelessness if we had seen the teacher make just one little mistake during the course of the year, just to show that he is human, too.
Wonderful video Mr. Pete, thanks
Loved it Mrpete, nice job on the casting. I need a way gard cast for my large metal shaper and need to learn how its done that way I can make some goodies myself 😊. Thanks for sharing.
As Always. An Awesome video. Cheers for sharing. From Australia
There's only been one perfect man, who made no mistakes, and he was a carpenter. Another great video. I have got to lean how to cast parts like that. Could you again show the recipe, I think it was your fathers, for casting sand?
This is great. I don't have a taper attachment and I need to make a new gib for my Atlas 3996. Thanks for both, maybe a taper attachment could be made.
Lyle, surely the ally part did not need a close fitting dovetail or gib strip. It will serve no use, it just needed to be clearance on the lathe saddle dovetail. The accuracy will be in the original cross slide, or am I missing something here ? Other make taper turning attachments just have a part that bolts onto the cross slide and does not use the original dovetail at all. I eagerly await your thoughts on this.
+Dave Ticehurst needs great rigidity during use. Necessitates a good fit
Interestingly enough, this is exactly how I received my Sheldon 12 x 36" lathe... missing only the exact same part of the taper attachment as yours! I have to wonder why... taken off and stuck in a drawer somewhere, soon to be forever separated. I have given much thought over the years as to what I was going to do with mine... I poured over multiple old Sheldon lathe pics, but was unable to see the exact part that was missing from mine. I was told not to use steel to fabricate the missing part... only use cast iron because it will not flex under load... what do you think? I do not have a piece of cast that large. I am now watching your video with extreme interest! Thanks again... you always hit the nail on the head somehow.
Don't ever change Mr Pete
When your done using I wonder if you'd be interested selling the taper attachment? I look forward to your class on the Logan lathe!
fantastic! love it! thank you, mr. pete!!
Nice project. I need the same part for my logan. LOL.
One of the reasons I bought my Logan lathe was that it came with a taper attachment, 4 jaw chuck, and a steady rest.
Thanks Randy
Thank you sir for your time to teach
No need for the dovetails in the extension piece. I have the extended cross slide pictured in that old Monty Ward cat. I believe they made a short attachment version too, bolt-on, like you’re creating. The only portion that has dovetails and gib is on the 6 inch or so where the compound sits, the rest is open and similar in clearance to the chip guard you removed.
+Wayne. I wrote and told Lyle that I thought a good fit on the ally part was not needed as a lot of other taper attachments just have a bolt on part to pull / push the cross slide. He has replied it is needed for rigidity purposes. I would not have thought so as the rear guide bar is so thin compared to other makes.
The original piece was one casting, but Mr. Pete's piece is an extension on the factory cross-slide that's going to rely on two small bolts to connect the two. I think the rigidity and support the extra dove tail provides will greatly reduce the stress on the two small bolts. Also help keep the two pieces aligned with each other.
Mr Pete, I was wondering. Could you have used your Dovetail cutter on the gibb. If yes, how would you have set it up. I like the video. I always learn something new watching you in the shop. Many thanks!
I am waiting for the 2nd part of video. Dear Sir I have an Emco Compact-8 and I like your opinion about this lathe. Thanks in advance.
Thanks for sharing sir....
DoveTails? Woo-Oo!
I have one of those tilting import vises too. Like a lot of Chinese stuff, you can't assume much of anything about it. I spent a Saturday and "fixed" the vise so that you could actually do some reasonably decent hobby work with it.
THANK YOU...for sharing.
And, BTW Dr Pete, that is a beautiful casting! Is cylinder head or engine block aluminum suitable?
Keep em coming
I'm curious why you needed to extend the dovetail into the extension piece that you cast? Wouldn't the Cross-slide provide the necessary rigidity needed?
Have you thought about selling those castings, to people who need the same part?
BedsitBob Me too!
me also
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Mister Pete, my Logan Model 200 came with the cross slide extension, but the taper attachment was long gone. I'd give it to you if you wanted it, or maybe one of your viewers might want it. I've taken up the space with a digital scale.
Jon Bryan I have the taper without the cross slide extension. What do you want $$$ for the extension? I have a 10 inch model 200 Logan.
It's not doing me any good. Pay the cost to ship it to you and it's yours. I'm just not sure how to make the arrangements.
Based on it’s size one can send it priority mail thru the post office. I can send you a money order or cash for shipping. I live in California.
It's under 12" long, so it would fit in a medium Priority Mail box. Shouldn't be more than $15 or so. How do we take this offline? I don't think RUclips has a way to send private messages, and I'm wary of sending contact info in the clear.
Facebook are you there?
fair weather foundry? Always felt that cold winter evenings were the nicest for doing foundry work. Granted, working cold sand wasn't so nice, but working around a hot furnace while wearing gloves, apron, face shield isn't very nice in hot weather either.
Just a thought, but I would have simply bolted the connector rigidly to the cross slide and removed the lead screw, for taper turning. What yave I missed?
Very impressive work with casting. Why can't the extension stay in lace like on a SB?
Jim
I guess it could
thank you mr pete
Lyle,
Do you need to remove the cross slide nut every time you want to use that taper attachment?
yes
I an missing the part you have on my 12x32 lol
That aluminum rings just about like a bell, but I guess if you could make bells of it someone would have already, though.
"I'd rather be dead than tilt the head", says Mr Jan Peterson of Cody Wyoming.
+princebatswater do you know Jan??
No Mr Pete. It's a quote from one of your earlier videos. You should get it on a T shirt!
The great and all mighty tubalcain I'm in trouble I have a set of 0 to 6 in mics starrett there all froze and some a little rusted more than others how do I get them working agian? Please help
+Captain Floyd soak for a month in solvent
mrpete222 thank you so much for responding and I love your videos just put that out there what do you mean by solvent like trans mission fluid I'm sorry like I said I'm new to this stuff
"Watch all 875 shop videos?"
I don't think you know what you're asking. I'd never have the time.
You _make_ time for Mr. Pete!
Are the end mills resharpenable?
Yes, but not an easy task.
Hand raised!!!
Gib: You can't cut something longer!
It is hard to put the metal back on.
No wd-40 while milling the aluminum, eh? I see you also like to live dangerously!
Just like there are Ford people and Chevy people, years ago there were Monkey-Wards people and Sears people. My family was a monkey-ward family, Powr-kraft tools instead of Craftsman. But we had an Atlas lathe, not a Logan, so not that loyal I guess.
did you had to stay after school clean up. was the teacher was going to throw you out of the class too. wonder if the teacher is going to take off marks for not the right tools used too. maybe a note send home with have his parents to read.
the good old day's