steel hardening technique which is not taught in school. Make a sharp spiral TAP
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steel hardening technique which is not taught in school. Make a sharp spiral TAP
Warning: This screw tap is only used to clean and repair dirty and deformed nuts, not intended for very hard dead iron.
I made this diy left screw hand tap to make nuts on spare parts for tie rods on trucks, which often experience damage to the nuts, so I made a DIY hand tap to speed up repairs and for the hand tap I did hardening to make it stronger and more durable.And in this technique I use salt water as a cooling medium, hardening the steel.
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When I went to Lane Technical High School in Chicago in the 1970s, two years of shop classes were mandatory. I took wood shop, electrical shop, foundry, machine shop, and forge. I and hundreds, perhaps thousands, of other boys were able to use and make metal tools and heat treat them before we were 17.
A country flourish when it's citizens armed with knowledge. Well educated workers are the back bone of industries. I watch this like magic but I am in a totally different field. But I am pretty sure that people in this field in my country aren't in the calibre to understand this.
Cool. I firmly believe that at min. everyone should have to take 4 semesters of classes in 'the trades'.
Сэр я учился в СССР 1985-88 и тоже сбивал руки на производственных практиках. Но глядя на профанацию показанную в данном ролике понимаю всю степень деградации производственного процесса. Такие ролики не для наших нервов.
The quality of your videos is outstanding, always making me learn something new!
I can tell by the looks of the machines they have not been properly cared for and the accuracy is most likely poor
Да... такой технике закалки не только в школе не учат (в школе вообще закалке не учат). Но даже в училищах такое не покажут: бросил деталь в воду - и все (правда, перед этим насыпал волшебной соли). Сколько я видел термистов, ни один так не делал. Опустив деталь в воду, они ее там болтают, чтобы остывала, а не паром, не проводящем тепло покрывалась. Спасибо хоть погрузил в воду вертикально, а то некоторые спецы в воду боком опускают, а потом удивляются, вроде точили прямую, а деталька изогнулась.
А еще, каждая сталь калится при определенной температуре, определить температуру по цвету - нужен большой опыт Судя по манере бросания детали в воду у мастера этот опыт вряд ли присутствует в наличии.
Сталь КН конечно можно калить при температуре КП но, результат непредсказуем.
(для тех, кто в танке: КН - какую нашел, КП - какая получится).
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Солёная вода, как охлаждающая жидкость при закалке, иногда применяется. У неё теплоотводящие свойства несколько выше чем у простой воды, соответственно скорость охлаждения выше, степень закалки соответственно тоже. Для каких марок сталей такое применимо, к сожалению не знаю. я слесарь а не термист.😉
@@panstakanski6116 А не надо быть термистом, чтобы оперировать простой логикой. Он насыпал соль в воду (как вы говорите, для лучшего охлаждения). Но не стал перемешивать воду деталью (при этом она значительно хуже охлаждалась). Я так и сказал: насыпал волшебной соли в надежде, что она за него работать будет.
А вообще закалка в соленой воде - вещь специфическая. И применяется в основном при закалке труб из низколегированных сталей для упрочнения трубы, работающей на разрыв. Что еще раз подтверждает, что для этого _специалиста_ соль - это волшебный порошок что-то там (но неизвестно что) улучшающий. Магия. Ну нафига метчику прочность на разрыв? Ему поверхность нужна твердая.
@@Walker7745просто солёная вода препятствует образованию паровой ванны. В термичках используют 1 кг соли на 10 литров воды.
@@Walker7745 могу только дополнить, как слесарь, что это изделие не метчик. По сути это закалённый болт с продольными прорезями. Режущие зубцы у нормального метчика должны иметь затыловку конусность. Этим наверняка и объясняются несуразности на видео. Резьба там скорее всего не получилась. Таким только ржавые гайки прогонять.
My Dad, who became a machinist, believed that a tool and die maker was the ultimate machinist's aspiration.
Yes, being a toolmaker, die maker, or mold maker was a way to show to yourself and others, that “you had it”. The work tended to be more varied in scope, and challenging on nearly each day. But, the title, or card from a program, was not what made the man. Producing the products needed, and not being afraid to share what you had learned, either on your own, or with the help of others that came before you, or even the ones coming after you, that had their heads screwed on straight. The sin, is in not wanting to listen to the thoughts of others, and not to give credit to the kid, when “the boss”, complimented you for the results.
@@robertqueberg4612нужно хорошо знать свойства, технические характеристики всех металлов 🤔
that is how it was.
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Dad said the same thing! Mom’s cousin’s husband could make or do anything!
Its all quite simple, it is amount of carbon and in some alloys other variables that determine the properties. But iron and carbon make steel and amount of carbon equals how hard it will be. Mild steel (low carbon content) will remain mild steel no matter what you do - heat it to melting point and quench in royal jelly, it will still be useless as a cutting tool. You need the right material and correct treatment. Just a fast quench will leave most harder steels brittle...You need to do the next process... To ensure some toughness.
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Mild steel can be made harder by using a surfectant, probably just a 'skin' though? (tests were not particularly 'scientific' just a hardness tester)
As you say, water, even with salt does nothing at all to mild steel
@@1crazypj You can surface harden, carbonising being most used, infusing carbon into the surface.
@@martinda7446 Yep, I've case hardened stuff in the past, used Kasenit but there are a few other compounds manufactured in different countries.
Plus, the ancient 'burned' leather method of case hardening
E nada , só comentar com Diamantina ou com carbono de couro e jogar na água que fica top
Unfortunately some people had negative comments instead appreciate the man for spending his time to show us
It is always amazing to see people with such determination! I"ve watched guys from Pakistan, Philippines, Thailand and India creating things with such minimal resources that it seemed impossible to do!
Respect to all of you.
Thanks for the video!
Да эти ребята покупали за 100 долларов пакистанские АК на один бой чтобы убить советского солдата забрать советский автомат и воевать с ним до окончания ухода американцев из Афганистана.
Those videos are inspiring AF.
An expert in his field with his old lathe. It's nice to see, how save he can handle his machine. 🙂
Эксперт в своей области со своим старым токарным станком. Приятно видеть, как бережно он обращается со своим станком. 🙂
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при нагреве горелкой образуется окалина.... размер инструмента уменшится....
слова технологам спсб
Perhaps he designed it a little oversize?
@@pcka12 так не бывает
Fain lucru și-o adevărată artă prietene ,multumesc de timpul tău petrecut cu folos ptr toti.All the best for your activity,and famili.
Perfect. Now make a video on 'how to sharpen an old scissor" 5:06 😂😂
Bending its blades.
Как говорил мой знакомый разбирая после смерти владельца пакистанский АК Этот Золотой доллар так похож на настоящий. Затем плюнул и выкинул его в пропасть.
@@user-xz8cr4ti5p No idea what you are saying, It doesn't give me the option of 'translate', IDKW
Everything was blunt hahaha even the scissors ✂️
резал резьбу в шестиграннике , пока до тисочков донес гайка стала круглой - Гениально )))
Согласен кругом фейки. Хотя непонятно зачем им это надо.
Просто не показал как в кругляке нарезал
Там шестигранник сыромятина был он его пока нес как пластилин смял в круг.
@@user-hk9zw4oc6m Воно з тієї серії,що "" реставрують""😊 190 мерседес-----що ради лайків смугасті не придумають
@@user-hk9zw4oc6mне понятно зачем? Ну как же. Деньги.
Clickbait. quenching, annealing, post heat treat is basic engineering material science taught in school.
Not in the UK. All safe easy subjects for the league tables now. Drama, Media Studies etc.
Knowledge of the experience, magic hands: with these two ingredients, a man can build everything👏👏👏.
Attrezzatura..........e sopratutto PALLE ottagonali !!! Complimenti !
I wish we could've seen the thread making in super slow mo.... That was tough to wrap my brain around. 👍🏼😁🤷🏼
Just watch at slower speed??
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Первый раз слышу что бы в школе закалку проходили😂😂
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e muito interessante quem domina essa arte de construcao de ferramenta.....ate fiz cursos mas nao consegui toda essa habilidade...
The circular form you used to cut the helical flutes gives you a negative rake. I believe if you cut below center you will reduce the negative angle.
If you mill the flutes with a ball-end cutter below center, you can create a positive rake.
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Hangi okulda öğretmemişler anlayamadım.Üstelik bu yaptığınız sıcaklık, soğutma hızı( soğutma ortamı) ve malzeme cinsinin fonksiyonlarını gözönüne almayan bir yöntem. Ölçme vs. yok. O yüzden bu şekliyle okullarda anlatılmaz. Her malzeme ve istenilen sertlik değeri için malzemenin ısıtıldığı sıcaklık, soğutma hızı (yani soğutulduğu ortamın iletkenlik derecesi hava,yağ, tuz vs) ve soğutma süresi bir faktördür.
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I liked metal work lessons in school.Our teacher did teach us that a high concentration of salt water is ideal to be used for quenching steal for hardening as the the salt prevents tiny air bubbles if were present would leave tiny weak spots on the metal.
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Buset, yang komen bule bule semua Om.
Saya kira Anda memakai mesin bubut CNC, ternyata manual tp hasilnye luar biasa Mantaapp..
Makin sukses dan terus berkarya Om.
Terimakasih banyak
Brilliant 👏 God bless you hands and mind.
You can also make "super-quench" by making brine and adding dish soap, though i cant remember how much soap to add. That makes it dissipate heat a bit faster than brine, i dont know how much though. If you know that your steel can be water hardened, you can try brine. If brine works, you can try super-quench, me thinks. But cracking or warping become an increasing risk...or guarantee...havent started yet to find out. But preheating your quench liquid can prevent thermal shock
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Никогда не слышал чтоб на воду с солью калили, а уж то что он не сделал угол наклона режущих перьев это вообще атас) Такой метчИк застрянет и ничего не нарежет!
St90? 😂 Ich seh hier keine Späne. Dieser Gewindebohrer lässt sich maximal zum nachschneiden von Gewinden benutzen.
Quem te disse que não é ensinado nas escolas ? Você faltou a essa aula de metalurgia !!!
Há graus diferentes de resfriamento para têmpera. Desde ao ar parado, ar com fluxo (para aços rápidos, por exemplo), óleo parado, óleo com agitação em diversos níveis de agitação, água parada, água em agitação em diversos níveis de agitação, e salmoura parada e salmoura em agitação (o mais severo) !!!
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Для автора ролика ваши слова это марсианский язык. Просто сделал деньги на просмотрах.
The best thing about a lathe, you can make more tools that work with the lathe. What ever you can think of, is doable.
This is quite a versatile lathe, being able to cut the helical channels!
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Yeah, I wish more people had them and knew how to use them. Would give almost anything to be able to have one myself.
@@LuggageStardate Yeah, I've actually seen shops do that for the most part. If a person has time, but not a lot of money, he could make nearly any tool he needs to make nearly any tool he needs to make any tool he needs. I think there are some occasions though when it's cheaper to just buy tools instead of making them. Some tools also require a great amount of skill and/or a great amount of knowledge of math and geometry.
@@deucedeuce1572 That's so true. There are always trade-offs. I like making tools, jigs, etc. I collect a lot of 'scrap'/'junk' for later use, and even then if I need parts (bearings, rods, connectors, etc.), the price can surpass buying a mass-produced tool.
A Mecânica é a rainha de tudo! Sou apaixonado pir Ela! Mil vidas eu tivesse mil vidas eu daria por ela!
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ты просто резал свой инструмент болтом, а потом хочешь, чтобы он резал гайку
это то же самое, что пилить дерево деревянной пилой
مشاء الله مبدع والله يا معلم 👍👍👍
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Я всегда думал, что инструмент для резки и обработки металла изготавливается из какой-нибудь прочной, инструментальной марки стали, а оно вон че оказывается. Взял любую арматурину и твори на здоровье.
Не любую,А-3
@@radionjmadilov4820 Это была ирония. Вон автор видоса, и тот повелся. Естественно, я не верю в возможность заменить сталью марки "пластелин м3" какую нибудь хирургическую сталь. Я, конечно, не спец, но, как мне кажется, задачи у этих материалов немного разные, не?
@@LandgraFF74rus я тебе больше скажу. "Сталь-пластилин-3" вообще никак не закаливается ввиду почти полного отсутствия в составе углерода
I heared about red heating tools, submerged in a melt of salt, to avoid the oxidation on the surface.
On the other hand I just don't know what quenching into an solution of water and sodium chloride would possibly do !?
By the way - Is there no tempering needed after quenching ?
Amazing skills you have sir! The lathe is the only machine that the make duplicates of itself, with the right!❤ person!
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Meu irmão,vc é super inteligente, parabéns pelo trabalho,Deus abençoe sempre,❤❤🎉🎉🎉
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Sir...that was amazing!!! Thank you❤🙏
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Thank you!!!!!
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Сначало надо купить небольшой заводик со всем оборудованием,а потом зниматься закалкой.
Agradeço muito à você por compartilhar o conhecimento! 👍🏻
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Parabéns pela habilidade
Проще было сразу нарезать резьбу резцом.
Поочитал коментарии, самые толковые на русском языке почему то
Thank you Very much.!!!!!
I was wondering about rake & a relief angle, but it certainly worked to thread that nut..nice job- creative using what is on hand.
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Господи, человек, заточи инструмент!
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Дело не только в заточке! При такой спирали угол наклона играет большую роль. Данный ролик для тех кто в мех обработки ничего не понимает!
@@nikolayk9261 Я про тот инструмент, которым он работает! =) У него резцы тупые как моя кошка, мне за них больно даже. Что-то крепче пластилина эти резцы резать не могут - они что-то ушатают: или резцедержку, или деталь или слесаря. Возможно совмещение.
Присмотритесь, все разные метчики в видео. Присутствие обмана.
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Yo los FABRICO con los vástago de los amortiguadores de automóviles.
El el templado en un viejo horno de ladrillos REFRACTARIOS.
Tu trabajo está EXCELENTE.
Saludos desde Argentina 🇦🇷🇦🇷🇦🇷
Muito obrigado 🙏👍
I love Argentina. I spent some time working in Biaha Blanca. Great people.
Wow, that is one beautiful lathe. I've never seen a drill attachment for the compound before. Nor have I seen a lathe that could cut a spiral (thread with such a high pitch.) I am envious!
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Impressive skills being used with basic equipment and providing a good job. Also some cleaver operations which could save time, such as the flats being made while still in the lathe.
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I think in school now they teach how to hem your dress or fix your high heels. Shop class'es may be done.
At 6:35 you can cleanly see he stopped short and didn't cut threads all the way through. At the end of the video when he cuts the nut in half to show you the threads is not a nut at all but a cut off piece of round stocks with internal threads. More jump cuts than a Chinese tool demo o_O
Countries which fell under domination of stronger armies had the opportunity to use military surplus materials. Those men grew to be the first and most technical pillars of the freed nations. Oppression could be of some revinue, sometimes. Oppressed nations learn to fight back with acquired knowledge.
Yeah, saltwater hardening is a thing. Also, please sharpen your cutters more often, the uneven scratches left behind in some of those cuts hurt to look at.
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It is, after all, hard water……
I love honing my sharpening skills :)
I've got so many drill bits from people who don't know or care to sharpen them. Also, knives, scissors, etc., I'll often take a bunch and sit down and sharpen them either for my own use, give them as gifts, or donate them. I hate watching someone I may be working with struggle with a dull tool.
Taladrina, aceite o agua para el enfriamiento de las herramientas de corte, para que el ángulo de corte les dure más, exelente tutorial, saludos cordiales desde Valencia Venezuela
Oke thanks 🙏👍
А зачем всё это? Твердость не проверенна ни по раквелу ( брюнелю) Я понимаю что сейчас инструмент ( хороший) найти тяжело, но всё - же.
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взять быстрорез отожженный как пример р6м5,нарезать канавок-резьб и закалить в соляном растворе.толку хрен да маненько то закалится же-быстрорез как никак и вуаля-из говна и палок получаем метчки непонятного качества с непонятной твердость и непонятными характеристиками точности)
Ухочес- где стружка от метчика самодельного?
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Que maravilha de técnica
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Que tipo de produto e este? Que vc está utilizando pra fazer esta temperar?
Oiga.... hem, el templado si se enseña en escuelas destinadas a eso. Digo, una escuela de abogacia claramente no va a enseñar Tratamientos Termicos.
Partir de un metal base con buena templabilidad, claramente es el camino conveniente. Lo interesante seria hacerlo a partir de un acero Sae 1020 o un F24.
De todos modos, excelente video. Me gusto el accesorio para hacer el dado del macho de roscar. Saludos.
За семсот рублей я купил целый набор метчиков. Их не нужно делать на токарнике из хрен пойми какой железяки. Это расходник - его нужно просто купить.
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Loss the Flip-Flops while working!!!! Danger to the TOES!
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Not sure what school you went to, but it certainly is taught in school here, or at least was when I was there, but water quench is a bit harsh and can cause the metal to be brittle, we prefer oil quench
I was taught that in 11th grade over 60 years ago. Salty water is better than pure water, but can still cause brittleness as it cools off too quickly. Oil is always better, even old used dirty oil.
@@gadgetroyster I once read the two processes can be used together to achieve better results, but I don't remember the details. Heat and water first, then heat and oil, or viceversa
It depends on the steel, and you definitely need to know the alloy. Oil, water and salt water all have different cooling rates. Salt water is a faster quench than plain water, and can crack or shatter some steels where water would produce a good result.
The key thing I learned in school is that it *can* be done, along with "look up the details when you need to do it".
@@gadgetroyster It's actually an 'old wives tale'.
Any surfectant works far better (dish soap)
I remember seeing the tests done with salt water compared to soapy water, the soapy water allowed even mild steel to become significantly harder (although still only around 40 ~ 45 Rockwell C)
The quench isn't what makes a metal too brittle or not brittle enough, it's the tempering after quenching that controls how brittle it is. Apparently your school missed basic metallurgy, which isn't surprising since most don't teach it at all.
Claims special knowledge about something schools fail to teach - comes to work in flip flops.... that sounds like a real winner!
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It's not special knowledge, it's just that brine quenching isn't often taught because of the fact that it can be harsh on some metals and cause them to crack due to the faster cooling times compared to water quenching or oil quenching.
Ковчег строил любитель небось босиком
Just be happy you can afford proper footwear.
Pak, Saya Pernah Beli Pahat HSS, Tapi Pas Saya Asah Ko, Terasa Lunak Yaa (mungkin Palsu), Dan Umur Pemakaiannya Juga Ga Lama,
Apakah Pahat HSS Itu Bisa Di Buat Lebih Keras Lagi, Seperti Perlakuan Panas Pada Video Di Atas,
Mohon Petunjuknya, Terimaksih
Was a pleasure to watch your skills. Thank You for sharing.
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Cool work thanks 👍
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Some knows this music? For some reason I find it fascinating.
Teary Eyes Dangle. Musical Beats.
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To my knowledge, only carbon steel and high speed steel is used to make drills & Taps.
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see my comments. this video is mostly stuff that gets people disappointed if they try it.
That was brilliant keep up the good work!
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Parabéns brilhante ideia de im bom torneiro
Muito obrigado 🙏👍👍
I expect most people are here to see how the heck you harden a piece of rebar.
Suspect*
Rebar is pretty durned hard to begin with
rebar is made up of all kinds of junk steel and iron and is unuseable for shop projects of any value.
@@shawn7233 It's not hard at all. It's made to be bent into shapes with hand tools.
Kuli Technique = Cool Tech 💪
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They have machines that spit these taps out 24/7. The old lathes are good for custom jobs. Or for assin about in a backyard shed or in a 3rd world country.
сталь вообще то на искру проверяют, а так ничего нового, наставники раньше были хорошие и школа настоящая ... ещё бы вертикально в жидкость опускать и нормализовать чуток
Un professionista al lavoro👏
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Mind blown @ using a bolt head as a cutting tool
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와우, 대단합니다 👍👍👍
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Muito bom excelente explicação
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Hahaaa justru yg menarik cara pembuatan alat tabnya.. Tapi bagaimana jika garam dicampur dgn oli sebagai pengeras, mngkin lebih kuat ya.. 👍🙏
Clickbait thumbnail. He never used rebar
Делают непонятно из чего, потом продают на алиэкспрессе.
В качестве заготовки подошел бы старый советский круглый напильник. Именно старый советский, он весь из углеродистой стали (типа у11, у13), а не науглероженный по поверхности
Salty water is used for low carbon steels, a ST90 is high carbon one, to be oil quenched and tempered.
You're a good machinist, but need to improve in heat treatments.
Before inventing a heat treatment, google the grade and read the steel specs.
What struck me here, was chucking in the water ,and just leaving it at that angle, you will create a likely fracture line where the steel enters the water. Should be moved gently up and down... and then tempered afterwards TOO! Don't expect it to last very long fella...
Exceeded my skills at about the 2 minute mark.
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Agua y sal, no lo sabía, también comento que no soy de esa rama pero está bien aprender.
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Apparently, protecting your feet was not taught in school either.
According to the pros from Pakistan youtube videos you need to reach a certain amount of experience to deserve safety sandals.
Oh wow, throwing hot metal into water. Why never thought of this anyone?
Congrat from Mexico. Great work my friend
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Из токарного станка сделал фрезерный и строгальный,красава
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Well done. Awesome.
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Have you tried making tempering with aloe vera?
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It's nicely machined - everything good until the steel was quenched. Where was the tempering stage? The result is rock-hard yet brittle carbon steel, liable to shatter under load, or even dropped. Even sticking it in a domestic oven at 240C for an hour would have helped to impart some basic tempering and reduce the effects of that brutal quenching.
You don't temper harden Steel. The reason it is hard is the quenching which cools the outer layers so quickly it places huge pressure on the internal crystalline lattice, this in turn pushes outward...(Look up prince Rupert drops,) That out ward pressure and the combination of the salt penetrating the top layers is what makes it hard. Tempering would remove that outward pressure making it just tear the top layers off.
@@ntal5859 ST90 is 0.7% C/1.3% Mn/1.3% Si structural high carbon steel.
Quenching ST90 steel creates martensite which is extremely hard but brittle. Unless there's something unique (like 13% Mn Hadfield steel being quenched), that brittleness needs reducing by tempering.
Parabéns ótimo trabalho
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Shouldn't the tip be slightly conical? And without any relief on the threads, this tool must have very high friction.
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Nice video, thanks :)
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This video is helpful. Thanks 😍
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Tu é bom mesmo.
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Pelo menos no torno, porque tempera de materiais aí já não sei, você mostrou tempera com água e sal , salmoura, funciona sim , mas não mostrou o revenimento.
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The only thing you make out of rebar is more rebar.