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Thanks Christian! Here's a 9-hole Course Vlog along the lines of what you are asking for: ruclips.net/video/YLVhf0VdWSw/видео.html I hope you enjoy it!! Tom
Went straight to the range after watching this and in about 3 swings got a totally different feel/result. Much better, more consistent contact and ball flight. I played a lot of baseball in my youth, but never used the "shallowing" idea for golf. It really worked. Another great video.
Awesome!! I'm glad this lesson provided you with that missing link between the two motions. Great job building it into your swing so quickly and effectively!! Tom
I sincerely appreciate your kind words, Rodney, and I'm very glad to know that my instruction is resonating with you!! How interesting and sad it is that with all the advances in equipment, technology, golf course grooming, etc. the average golfer still struggles to break 100. Epic failures within the realm of “conventional” instruction, perhaps??? So many misconstrued and/or misguided teachings - such as taking the club straight back, turning the shoulders level while independently lifting the arms, shifting into and torquing against a firm trail side, actively rolling the hands through impact, etc. - have relegated generations of golfers to the vast abyss of inconsistency and chronic frustration (and chronic back/knee/hip pain as well). I’m doing my best here to clear these up one by one and put an end to this madness, and thank you for sharing your improvement. Keep up the great work!! Tom PS: By the way, since you are liking my channel's content, I think you will really enjoy and benefit from the comprehensive, structured, step-by-step learning platform for all the finer aspects of the swing (and the game in general) in my online school. Have you looked into it yet? Thousands of men and women from across the globe - including many seasoned, low-handicap, competitive players and spanning all age ranges from junior to super-senior - are now enjoying the best golf of their lives as a result, and I'm happy to let their unsolicited testimonials tell the story: saguto.golf/p/sagutogolfreviews. And here is a link to my free mini course “The Top 3 Things You Need to Be a Great Ball Striker” if you are interested in checking it out: go.saguto.golf/
After all the lessons I’ve had over ten years not one golf teacher has mentioned the butt leading the clubhead down. My difficulties continued until now. Thanks to you I can now feel the club shallowing and the butt leading the way. In fact this move forces my hips to move first. It felt though that the clubhead was never going to find the ball, but it does. Also feels like it’s coming in sideways but it squares up with the hips turning. Amazing feeling! It seems the teachers here in Australia don’t want to give too many secrets away so we have to keep going back and back again. I’ve always been told to shift my weight better, nothing about the way the club comes down. I’ve casted and topped and fatted my way to an 18 handicap. My shots are now crispy, what a difference. Love your videos 🙏
I’m writing you a tremendous thank you. I’m 53 and been playing since I was 14. It’s the only sport I’ve struggled with. I played basketball and baseball in college. I could dunk 2 handed and hit a baseball 450’. Tournament water skied in my 20’s and 30’s. Raced motorcycles. I was good at all stick and ball sports. But golf always tortured me. I was athletic enough to get by. Played to a 5 handicap but didn’t know if I was gonna shoot 73 or 83. But since coming across your channel I’m scratch easy. I got by because I could hit it a ton. Club head speed in my early 40’s was 121 so if I halfway kept it in play I’d do ok. After coming across rolling your ankle on the downswing video the athletic lightbulb went off. I’m easily scratch or better now. I even putt with my feet now making a minuscule imperceptible roll/banking move in my forward stroke. It keeps my putter square and accelerating. The physics of the strike in the full swing is unreal. You feel like you’re doing very little and the ball explodes off the club. WHat I’ve realized is by banking the right foot and keeping the inside of the heel down it drives the hips in the right direction not spinning and it forces you to use your right side to and through the strike and you hit the ball hard with the palm of the right hand like a shove just like a baseball swing. And you finish with the back of your right hand and the palm of your left facing your target. I’ve also noticed now the great ball strikers keep their heel on the ground longer. With irons Palmer and Trevino and hogan don’t release their heel from the ground until the club is at 3 o’clock or past. Other pros I’ve seen couples els are like 4 o’clock. I’m hitting absolute lasers. Sad though I’ve lost about 12 mph since my early 40’. Using this I don’t struggle with alignment anymore, use it on chips they’re all solid with zip, flop shots I set up open open the face and just bank the ankle with my body lines. All you have to do now to move the ball left or right is do what Jack said. Just aim left or right open or close the face and swing normally. It also changes your whole mindset on course management. If you get in trouble you don’t have to risk anything crazy. If I can get within sandwedge away I’m gonna put the ball 10-15 feet away and a great chance for par for example. They said hogan had a secret well I’ve discovered mine thanks to you. Bty the old guys had it going on straightening the trail leg in the back swing. That resisting and holding the flex is for the birds. I think a ton of pros were damaged with 90’s instruction. Oh bty my daughter and I entered a 2 man 2 weeks ago we shot 64 made 3 eagles took all the skins the first day. About 500$😂. She’s been playing 4 months. Again thank you. You’re a good a little unorthodox in a good way and the best online instructor I’ve ever seen. One more thing that simple move is why Trevino could take it outside and Palmer inside and it would reroute into the slot. Take a look at Miller barber that is proof in the pudding there. Use him as an example in a video on the importance of rolling the ankle. ruclips.net/video/VQ2zf4X6PIc/видео.html
Hi Christopher, I sincerely appreciate you taking the time to share your improvement in such detail. And congratulations to you and your daughter on firing a tremendous score and cleaning up on the skins!! Golf is indeed counterintuitive to those of us who excelled in other sports - particularly baseball - that is, until it is not. And the "not" part can only happen if we are truly able to understand the differences and properly harness the similarities. Sadly, "conventional" instruction never gave us that, and thus we have generations of amateur golfers - amongst them countless excellent athletes - senselessly stuck in the vast abyss of frustration and physical/psychological anguish. It doesn't have to be that way, and thankfully many good folks like yourself are discovering this and now getting on with enjoying the best golf of their lives. Thanks again for your kind words and support, keep up the fabulous work, and have fun out there with your new "golf buddy"!! Tom
I'm posting another "Thank You" to Tom for this particular video. He's posted a lot of excellent material, but this one has truly helped me rediscover my swing. Completely changed my backswing for the better, and that in turn, has improved my downswing and ball striking. Really, Tom, this one is a major-league teaching tool.
Major league?? LOL!!! I'm very glad to know that this baseball feel resonated well with you. As I've said to other former baseball players (I'm one myself), we need to understand the differences and harness the similarities between the two motions. Accomplish that and we can build a very good, consistent, powerful golf swing. Otherwise we can easily find ourselves stuck in the abyss of counter-intuitiveness. Thanks for your comment and support!! Tom
I just wanted to thank you for all the useful information I am gathering by watching your videos. I really appreciate the way you explain the golf swing. You make it fun and easy to understand. Keep up the good work.
I sincerely appreciate that and I'm very glad to know that my instruction content and style are resonating with you!! Though I must tell you that since you are liking my channel's content I firmly believe that you will really enjoy and benefit from the comprehensive, structured, step-by-step learning platform of my online school. Have you looked into it yet? Thousands of folks across the globe are now enjoying the best golf of their lives as a result, and I'm happy to let their unsolicited testimonials tell the story: saguto.golf/p/sagutogolfreviews. Thanks again for your kind words and support. Embrace the process and have fun out there!! Tom
Awesome!! 💪💪 I'm very glad to know that my instruction is resonating with you, Tony - thanks so much for sharing your improvement and keep up the great work!! Tom PS: If you've not already joined, have you considered enrolling in the online school and taking your learning - and your game - to the next level? That's where - in addition to detailed lessons and drills that take you through the entire swing step-by-step from setup to finish - you'll find diagnostic tools for identifying/resolving swing and ball flight issues when they arise, plus advanced level instruction, and much more. Thousands of men and women from across the globe - including many seasoned, low-handicap, competitive players and spanning all age ranges from junior to super-senior - are now enjoying the best golf of their lives as a result, and I'm happy to let their unsolicited testimonials tell the story: saguto.golf/p/sagutogolfreviews. And here's a link to my free mini course “The Top 3 Things You Need to Be a Great Ball Striker” if you’re interested in checking it out: go.saguto.golf/
You’re the man Tom. I went to the range and never in my life hit the ball better then I did today! Driver has always been a struggle for me. Today straight almost every drive! Thank again. Your online school is awesome I recommend it it to all.
That's awesome to hear, Kurt!! I sincerely appreciate you sharing your improvement as well as your online school testimonial!! By the way, have you joined the SagutoGolf Community Forum (which is included in your online school membership) yet and begun engaging with other golfers in the school? If you've not already done so it only takes a minute or two to enroll - just go to your “My Courses” screen and you’ll see a link to get started. Once signed in you’ll be able to access in this fun and tremendously supportive community and participate in the ongoing great dialogue on a variety of swing- and game-related topics. You can start discussions, contribute to existing threads, post accomplishments and specific swing questions, make some new friends, and just share in the common bond and banter of golfers from around the world seeking to improve their games and help others to do the same. I monitor the forum and participate as well. I really think you will enjoy it!! Thanks again for your support, keep it crispy, and have fun out there!! Tom
I sincerely appreciate your kind words, and I'm very glad to know that my instruction content and teaching style are resonating with you!! Thanks so much for referrals and support, and I look forward to seeing you soon in the school!! Tom
Glad you enjoyed the episode, Barrie, and I'm very happy to know that my instruction is resonating well with you!! Thanks for sharing your improvement and keep up the great work!! Tom
I am a fan of your swing philosophy as well as your videos which are informative and entertaining. I have recently been switching to the stack and tilt method based on your videos and believe this is the best method for amateurs. Keep up the great videos.
@rjchombre - I sincerely appreciate your kind words regarding the Stack and Tilt system as well as my instruction style and content!! By the way, have you considered enrolling in the online school and taking your learning - and your game - to the next level? That's where - in addition to detailed lessons and drills that take you through the entire swing step-by-step from setup to finish - you'll find diagnostic tools for identifying/resolving swing and ball flight issues when they arise, plus advanced level courses on shot shaping, power and distance, and much more So many folks across the globe - including many seasoned, low-handicap, competitive players - are now enjoying the best golf of their lives as a result. Here's a link if you would like to know more about the school - saguto.golf Thanks again and keep up the great work!! Tom
High level hitters in baseball actually tilt the shoulders in the downswing to get the butt of the bat travelling down the line and at the ball which produces this shallowing and then when they snap the hands the barrel goes right at the ball through the zone on the diagonal. You can see this with the baseball player in in the video. It's not well understood or taught but your video has demonstrated it perfectly here. The golf swing is the same way, you have to tilt and deliver the club, bat from a powerful position. You load, tilt and release, can help in both sports.
I'm glad you enjoyed the video, Justin! Obviously, the "tilt" in baseball is variable and reactionary depending on pitch location. In golf it is preestablished at address in relation to the static ball position. It is also not necessary - and is actually counterproductive - to try to time some kind of contrived, split-second "release" of the hands/wrists. The proper action through the zone will occur naturally if we train it and then simply allow it to happen. Thanks! Tom
I'm glad to know that my instruction is resonating well with you! By the way, here's a link to my FREE mini-course “The Top 3 Things You Need to Be a Great Ball Striker” in case you’re interested in learning about some key tenets of the swing system I teach in a more structured manner: go.saguto.golf/ Cheers! Tom
Thanks Cesar - I'm glad this lesson resonated well with you, and I'm happy to know that you are enjoying the addition of the launch monitor!! Keep up the great work!! Tom
Thanks. No need to mask reality. To the contrary, it ought to deliver some sense of comfort to see a pro flub a shot every now and then, because it definitely does happen! Cheers! Tom
The key in the backswing is to put yourself in position to make a transition into a good downswing. Watch a Tour event and you'll see a variety of backswings. Which one is "perfect"? It doesn't matter because they would not be on Tour if their downswing didn't consistently bring them to a solid impact condition. Cheers! Tom
That's awesome!! Thanks so much for sharing your improvement; I'm very glad to know that my instruction is resonating well with you. By the way, if you've not already joined have you considered enrolling in the online school and taking your learning - and your game - to the next level? That's where - in addition to detailed lessons and drills that take you through the entire swing step-by-step from setup to finish - you'll find diagnostic tools for identifying/resolving swing and ball flight issues when they arise, plus advanced level courses on shot shaping, power and distance, and much more. Thousands of folks across the globe - including many seasoned, low-handicap, competitive players - are now enjoying the best golf of their lives as a result. Here's a link if you would like to know more about the school - saguto.golf Keep up the great work!! Tom
That's awesome!! 💪💪 I appreciate knowing that my channel's instruction content is resonating well with you, and I'm very glad to learn of your dramatic handicap improvement! Thanks for sharing your progress and keep up the great work!! Tom PS: By the way, since my channel's content is performing well for you, I am quite certain you will really enjoy and benefit from the comprehensive, structured, step-by-step learning platform in my online school. Have you enrolled yet? It will put you on the fast track towards really mastering this system and taking ownership of a consistent, powerful, low-maintenance, body-friendly swing. Thousands of men and women from across the globe - including many seasoned, low-handicap, competitive players and spanning all age ranges from junior to super-senior - are now enjoying the best golf of their lives as a result, and I'm happy to let their unsolicited testimonials tell the story: saguto.golf/p/sagutogolfreviews.
Glad you enjoyed it! I'm using a Flightscope Mevo+ Pro Package, and I have it linked to my iPad. It also includes 6 golf courses for sim play and 17 virtual practice range options. Cheers! TS
Hi John, I'm using a Flightscope Mevo+ Pro Package, and I have it linked to my iPad. It also includes 6 golf courses for sim play and 17 virtual practice range options. TS
Great video. This has helped me a lot. At 3:56 you talk about the back of lead hand being “more skyward “. Many others talk about getting the club face angle matching the spine angle at P6. That requires turning the back of the lead hand more toward the ground. That created over the top swings 3:58 With the more shallow approach to the ball as you described with the back of the lead hand somewhat skyward, is continuing to rotate the body the key to getting the club face square ? Thanks!
I'm glad you enjoyed it, Michael! With regard to your question, after the proper positions/motions are ingrained I much prefer entrusting the swing to the big muscles as opposed to contrived "handsy" manipulations that must be precisely repeated each and every time. Having said that, I do my best to convey multiple “feels” or thoughts in my instruction wherever possible because we're all different physiologically and psychologically, and something that resonates effectively with one golfer may not necessarily work for another. However, no matter the variety of suggested feels/thoughts offered for a particular element of the swing, they are all directed at getting different golfers to achieve the desired positions, motions, and ball striking results. This is one reason is why the comprehensive, structured, sequential learning platform of my online school is so effective, and why thousands of folks across the globe are now enjoying the best golf of their lives as a result (and I'm happy to let their unsolicited testimonials tell the story: saguto.golf/p/sagutogolfreviews ). The lessons and drills provide the guidelines and set the boundaries, while allowing ample leeway for each individual golfer to infuse and exercise their own uniqueness. The school is where you will find the level of detail that I know you are seeking based on the precise nature of your question. Thanks, Tom
Tom: Thanks. I’ve been working on this shallowing motion/feel and it helps a lot. Many other instructors, including those from whom I have taken lessons, emphasize to “turn the knuckles down”. That motion seems unnecessary in the swing which you teach. Am I correct about that and can forget about “knuckles down”? When I try it the ball seems to go left. Thanks for the clarification.
Tom say's " Play the best golf of your life". I'm doing exactly that and having a blast. My buddies can't believe it, 77 yesterday because I practice what Tom teaches.
Fantastic round, Kenny!! (When are you going to let your buddies in on our "little secret"?.... 😎) Thanks for sharing your success and keep up the great work!! Tom
Tom haad an upright swing...swallowing out has given me a fuller shoulder swing real increased clubhead speed..will order the lag trainer..good image is Jimenez on the senior tour. Don't know where you keep getting this gems!
The "gems" are all based on the physics and geometry in which this swing system is rooted, Dennis. I'm glad they are resonating with you!! Enjoy your Lag Shot, and be sure to use this link to get your SaguroGolf discount!: www.lagshotgolf.com/sagutogolf Tom
Hi Tom , Really enjoy your instructions. Thanks. What are your thoughts about having the right palm facing the sky ( or close as possible ) at the top of the backswing ? I find a lot of positive things happen , like keeping elbows together, right elbow pointed straight to the ground and below lead arm . It also keeps the left wrist flat or slightly bowed and also stops the wrists over hinging resulting in a cupped left wrist . It also promotes left forearm rotation in the last 20% of the backswing. It sets up transition , shallowing the club , getting it more behind you . Cheers, and thanks once again .
Awesome lesson as usual Tom and your yard looks nice and private. Love the trees and your grass looks to be cut at the preferred length of 2.75. I was gonna say that you should add a quick 2 second unnecessary clip of you cutting your grass into the next video. Would be hilarious. Thanks Tom !
Hi Paul, I'm glad you had some early success with this lesson! Heel strikes can potentially result from a path that is too much in-to-out, but there are other possibilities as well so it's really not possible for me to diagnose without seeing your swing. There are entire sections of my online school dedicated to resolving common swing, contact, and ball flight issues. Have you looked into it? That's where - among many other courses and lessons covering various aspects of the game - you will find very detailed instruction and drills that take you through the entire swing step-by-step from setup to finish. Thousands of folks across the globe are now enjoying the best golf of their lives as a result. Here's a link if you would like to know more about the school - saguto.golf - and here's a link to my free mini-course “The Top 3 Things You Need to Be a Great Ball Striker” if you’re interested in checking it out: go.saguto.golf/ Tom
another great heads up for the right feels tom, thankyou, it would be even greater to see your name pop up on a few golf tourneys also ,you have more than enough talent to compete and do your stuff , 👍🙂
I sincerely appreciate that, William, but or me to get my complete game to where I can even think about competing at just the mini-tour or PGA Section levels would probably take the better part of a year of dedicated practice (yes - those guys are THAT good!). Beyond that, I thoroughly enjoy what I am doing as a PGA instructor in helping so many people enjoy the game more, and I do not wish to detract from that by falling short on the quality content and related deliverables that my members and subs have come to expect. Thanks again!! Tom
Hi Glenn - My apologies but I don't quite understand your question. Here is a recent lesson on chipping that has really helped a lot of folks with their short games: ruclips.net/video/aatbA39KtRc/видео.html And here's a link to my FREE mini course “The Top 3 Things You Need to Be a Great Ball Striker” where you can learn some key aspects of the swing system I teach in a more structured manner: go.saguto.golf/ Thanks, Tom
The essential action can be very clearly seen in your baseball video example. Notice how as the baseball players shoulders come back to parallel with the swing line he starts side bending and keeps increasing the amount to the max possible. Notice how that side bending increases the downward angle of the shoulder line much more than the angle of the hips. That point of the golf swing where shoulders come back to parallel is when the mass of the lead arm is freed to accelerate down towards the ground much faster than the hips and shoulders are turning. What the tilting of the shoulders does at that point is change the force vector of that arm mass - which is still pulling on the club head mass - to point forward toward the target instead of rotating in a circle around the feet. I see very few older recreational golfers use any side bend in their swings, perhaps because it is not stressed very much as an essential action in golf instruction. Not without some irony nearly everyone will do the side bend action ideally with their trail arm releasing straight at the target if asked to throw a golf ball with just the trail hand. That is a great drill for grooving the feel of the side bend action and straightening of trail arm towards target needed to get the mass of the lead arm and club head mass it pulls down to release towards the target. 😊
@sagutogolf Using the baseball analogy, what direction would the golf ball be coming at you from and what direction are you trying to hit it? In baseball, the ball is coming from 90-degrees from the direction you're facing and you're basically turning 90-degrees to hit the ball back in the direction from which it came. In golf, since you are bent over, from where would the ball be coming from and where would you be trying to hit it? Would the ball be rolling on the ground from down the line? Or would it be traveling up through the ground towards you?
Hi Marc, We must recognize that although there are similarities - and the shallowing move demonstrated here is certainly an important one - there are also some definite differences between the baseball and golf swing motions that should not cross over from one to the other. In baseball, the ball is indeed moving and we have to react to the varying pitch speeds, locations, and curvatures, and as a result the swing plane is constantly changing from one pitch to the next. In golf, the ball is just sitting there on the ground - or a tee - on top of "home plate", so we orient ourselves to establish a relationship with that static position, and our swing plane is preset accordingly. It's therefore very difficult to make any comparison in this regard. Tom
Great video👍 Can you do a video about keeping your head down lol. Because I played baseball I lift my head to follow the ball too early in the swing I’ m thinking others are doing the same thing? Thanks for creating these great videos 💗
I'm glad you enjoyed it, Sheila! Here's a lesson regarding keeping a steady head: ruclips.net/video/E5csidjztzg/видео.html As mentioned in the video, this was Jack Nicklaus' most important swing key. It's important to understand that the swing is a sequential orchestration. This is why it's always best to search upstream for the true cause of an issue rather than try to put a band aid on the symptom. So, for example, oftentimes when golfers believe they are lifting their head prematurely to see the ball flight, the true cause is actually something occurring out of sequence in the downswing. On the flip side, this also means that if you nail each successive variable - starting with the foundations of the setup - then you are facilitating the proper execution of the next swing element. That's how the sequential lessons and the drills of the school are designed to work. For a good starting point, here is a link to my FREE mini course “The Top 3 Things You Need to Be a Great Ball Striker” where you can learn some key aspects of the swing system I teach in a more structured manner: go.saguto.golf/ (I've recently updated it with some more of my favorite drills!) Thanks for your message - I'm glad you are enjoying my content!! Tom
Thanks - I'm glad you're enjoying my instruction content!! I'm using the FlightScope MEVO+ & Pro Package to deliver this accurate launch monitor data. If interested I’ve unlocked special discounts for SagutoGolfers who use this link (discounts below) - flightscopemevo.com/SagutoGolf - Get Your MEVO for 15% OFF Using Code SAGUTOGOLF - Get Your MEVO+ and Pro Package 10% OFF Using Code SGPRO Cheers! Tom
Thanks for the video. One ?. In the downswing to impact does the palm of the right hand remain stationary to the ball or point more toward the ground to get the left knuckles in a downward position? Thanks.
There are no contrived, timed handsy actions in this swing, Tommy. If we properly preset the hands, arms, and connections at setup, then we can simply "transport" these relationships from address to finish without the need for manipulation. Here are some channel lessons on this topic: - ruclips.net/video/Fe2kQ44azJ4/видео.html - ruclips.net/video/SunCR5uJ_ao/видео.html - ruclips.net/video/zw7Rzstq4gY/видео.html If you've not already joined, have you considered enrolling in the online school and taking your learning - and your game - to the next level? That's where - in addition to detailed lessons and drills that take you through the entire swing step-by-step from setup to finish - you'll find diagnostic tools for identifying/resolving swing and ball flight issues when they arise, plus advanced level courses on shot shaping, power and distance, and much more So many folks across the globe - including many seasoned, low-handicap, competitive players - are now enjoying the best golf of their lives as a result. Here's a link if you would like to know more about the school - saguto.golf Tom
Glad you enjoyed it, Craig! The training club is called LagShot. They have PW, 7 iron, and driver versions. Here in the US folks can get15% off when they click this link - www.lagshotgolf.com/sagutogolf - though I'm not sure whether this extends to the UK and elsewhere. It's certainly worth a try as it is a great training aid! Tom
I know it’s your superb show but may I make an offering? I found this out for myself but there is an important change in the way your wrists move! I’ve gone away from rotating the wrists to a movement that is similar to beating a rug. Or say slapping. Imagine hitting a hockey stick. You wouldn’t rotate your wrists. This not only takes a shallower and longer divot ahead of the ball but also keeps the club face square in the impact zone for longer! Plus it’s easier to shallow the club. I not only hit it further but also I have lost my left hook. Plus!!!! It helps to create forward shaft lean!! Not many trainers mention the wrists.
I appreciate you sharing that, Roger. There's only so much I can include in a YT video without getting into the "information overload zone". These channel episodes are certainly not intended to be taken as a sequential learning platform like the structured curriculum of my online school, which I strongly recommend to anyone who truly wishes to get on the proper path towards owning this swing. I do have channel content pertaining to the wrists and the "release". Here are a couple of examples that may be related to what you are conveying: - ruclips.net/video/SunCR5uJ_ao/видео.html - ruclips.net/video/zw7Rzstq4gY/видео.html Cheers! Tom
@@SagutoGolf of course, I understand you are limited to time otherwise peoples interest might expire too early. But that hand movement to me is very important and I had to mention it. I didn’t mean to tread on toes.
@Roger Miller - No "treading" felt on my end!! It's certainly a very important component; just not one that I could give appropriate time to without diluting the primary theme of this particular lesson. TS
Love your explanations and demonstrations. I’ve been doing many things wrong for so long that it doesn’t always hold up on the course although at times there is improvement. I have one question that has nagged me for many years maybe you could address- what is the need for a back swing in golf ? You compare the golf swing to a baseball swing- there’s no back swing in baseball and the ball is moving all over at up to 100 mph. In golf we are trying to hit a stationary ball. My question is why can’t the golfer just start at the top of the back swing in the proper position and swing forward just as the baseball hitter does? This would seem to eliminate the part of the golf swing where many of my troubles begin- the back swing. Also since there is a stopping point in the back swing this seems to indicate there’s no need for it in the first place. Your thoughts would be appreciated-THANKS
Hi Gregory, It's very difficult to hit a stationary object from a static position. For example, try hitting a nail into a piece of wood without first swinging the hammer back. In baseball we are reacting quickly to a moving object approaching at constantly varying pitch speeds and in different locations. It would be very difficult to time these planned inconsistencies with a backswing. With regard to the golf swing, there's no reason you can't have a slight pause at the top to gather yourself and initiate the proper firing sequence of your downswing. Thanks for your question. I'm glad you are enjoying my content!! Tom PS: By the way, here's a link to my FREE mini-course “The Top 3 Things You Need to Be a Great Ball Striker” in case you’re interested in learning about some key tenets of the swing system I teach in a more structured manner: go.saguto.golf/
HiThomas, I'm using the FlightScope MEVO+ with the Pro Package, and I have it linked to my iPad to deliver the launch monitor data. If interested I’ve unlocked special discounts for SagutoGolfers who use this link (discounts below): - Get Your MEVO for 15% OFF Using Code SAGUTOGOLF - Get Your MEVO+ and Pro Package 10% OFF Using Code SGPRO (FYI, Flightscope has been running a Fall Special recently. Some of that pricing may be temporarily lower and if so it these discounts will be automatically overridden to give you the best available price. However, if ordering please still use the referenced SagutoGolf link for their tracking purposes.) Tom
Hi Karol, The net is a DIY job. It is approximately 7’ tall and 8’ wide. We used this video as a starting point - ruclips.net/video/-p11qs4E2T0/видео.html - and then made some other minor PVC support structure modifications to suit our needs. We did not use PVC cement as this allows us to easily disassemble it if necessary. The netting we used is 10' x 10' golf cage impact net purchased from Amazon, and it differs from the screening material in the video. (By the way, if using a net like we did you probably won’t need the screw hooks that are mentioned in the video - bungees should suffice.) Also, I have a Real Feel 3x5 Country Club Elite® Golf Mat. You can visit them here - www.RealFeelGolfMats.com. If purchasing be sure to use coupon code "SAGUTOGOLF" (without the quotes and no spaces) at checkout to claim your special SagutoGolf discount on the Country Club Elite® series of mats. I hope that helps! Tom
I have recently found your videos and very much like the content. In this video you seem to be following the conventional instructors latest inspiration to shallow the club. How then, did you manage to get such fantastic results before you discovered this latest shallowing secret, or has it always been part of your swing but not highlighted?
I'm glad you are enjoying my content! With regard to your question on "shallowing", this is why I do my best to convey multiple “feels” or thoughts throughout the swing wherever possible. We're all different physiologically and psychologically, and something that resonates effectively with one golfer may not necessarily work for another. However, no matter the variety of suggested feels/thoughts offered for a particular element of the swing, they are all directed at getting different golfers to achieve the desired positions, motions, and ball striking results. This is one reason why the comprehensive, structured, step-by-step learning platform of my online school is so effective, and why thousands of men and women from across the globe - including many seasoned, low-handicap, competitive players and spanning all age ranges from junior to super-senior - are now enjoying the best golf of their lives as a result (and I'm happy to let their unsolicited testimonials tell the story: saguto.golf/p/sagutogolfreviews ). The lessons and drills provide the guidelines and set the boundaries, while allowing ample leeway for each individual golfer to infuse and exercise their own uniqueness. Thanks for your message! Tom PS: By the way, since my channel's content is connecting well with you, I think you will also like my FREE mini course - “The Top 3 Things You Need to Be a Great Ball Striker” - where you can learn some key aspects of the swing system I teach in a more structured manner. Here's a link in case you’re interested in checking it out: go.saguto.golf/
Tom- As an old ballplayer this move resonates with me like yesteryear. What I didn't see was the right elbow tucked to the hip. I'm sure these two moves are not mutually exclusive. Am I missing something here? Great stuff. Stay safe.-Russ
There's no conflict at all, Russ. It's perfectly fine and expected to have a few inches of separation between the trail elbow and the torso at the top, as long as the elbow does not fly out on us and regains its fully tucked orientation in the downswing. As I routinely mention, I do my best to convey multiple “feels” or thoughts throughout the swing wherever possible. We're all different physiologically and psychologically, and something that resonates effectively with one golfer may not necessarily work for another. However, no matter the variety of suggested feels/thoughts offered for a particular element of the swing, they are all directed at getting different golfers to achieve the desired positions, motions, and ball striking results. TS
I'm glad you enjoyed it! The Lag Shot has a very flexible shaft that is designed to provide instant feedback when the path is off. It is more than simply a weighted clubhead. Tom
Good video Tom. Also noticing how the baseball player's head doesn't move at all either, just like golf should be. As for me, lately I've been working on squeezing the elbows together at the top of down swing and only thinking about rolling the elbows/upper arms through impact. Seems to work well, especially with driver. Would you recommend that swing feeling?
Glad you enjoyed it, and yes - a steady head prevails in both sports! Aaron Judge offers a perfect example of this from the baseball perspective, and I'd say he's had himself a rather decent year....😎 Preventing the elbows from separating any further than the preestablished distance between them at address is a very important swing key for a properly shallowed downswing path and consistently crispy, powerful impact. If your feel is effective for accomplishing this and is producing the desired results, then I would simply suggest that you allow your ball striking and shot shape to be your guide. Keep up the great work!! Tom
That's awesome, Tris!! Thanks so much for sharing your improvement and keep it crispy!! Tom PS: If you've not already joined, have you considered enrolling in the online school and taking your learning - and your game - to the next level? That's where - in addition to detailed lessons and drills that take you through the entire swing step-by-step from setup to finish - you'll find diagnostic tools for identifying/resolving swing and ball flight issues when they arise, plus advanced level courses on shot shaping, power and distance, and much more So many folks across the globe - including many seasoned, low-handicap, competitive players - are now enjoying the best golf of their lives as a result. Here's a link if you would like to know more about the school - saguto.golf - and here's a link to my free mini-course “The Top 3 Things You Need to Be a Great Ball Striker” if you’re interested in checking it out: go.saguto.golf/
Hi Mark, I switched to JumboMax grips earlier this year. I personally love the feel as well as how they help to keep my hands quiet through the zone. They’re not necessarily for everyone - and my fingers are a bit longer than average - so I routinely tell folks to "try before you buy." Tom
@@SagutoGolf thanks Tom. Currently using midsize grips. I was thinking of regripping one club with jumbo before going all in. I wear an xxl glove when I can find it so it’ll probably work.
Hi Tom Great video, I recommend your channel to all my friends, keep up the good work. I've watched all your video including the member ones but I am still not able to break the 150 yds with my 7 iron even with my top ball speed of 115mph. Do you think I am hitting too high with little compression?
I'm glad you enjoyed it, Chris, and I appreciate your support!! If you are compressing the ball then you will sense it in the strike. It's a pure feeling and the ball will take off like a rocket with seemingly little effort. Swing speed and efficiency of the strike - i.e.: smash factor - will translate directly to ball speed and distance. By the way, there's an entire section of my online school dedicated to resolving common swing, contact, and ball flight issues. Have you looked into it? That's where - among many other courses and lessons covering various aspects of the game - you will find very detailed instruction and drills that take you through the entire swing step-by-step from setup to finish. So many folks across the globe are now enjoying the best golf of their lives as a result. Here's a link if you would like to know more about the school - saguto.golf - and here's a link to my free mini-course “The Top 3 Things You Need to Be a Great Ball Striker” if you’re interested in checking it out: go.saguto.golf/ TS
@@SagutoGolf Thanks Tom! You won't believe we dont even have creamy mash potato at KFC UK, just plain boring old fries. Anyway, I know it wont be long until you reach 500,000 RUclips subscribers. Keep up the good work!
I've been a Saputo-golfer for a few years now (from back when you were rocking the 'Elvis' look), but it wasn't until this video that I noticed you using a ten-finger grip. Have you always used that grip, or was it just for this baseball-related video? I like a ten-finger grip; it's what I learned with. I only abandoned it when I became a 'real' golfer.
Hi Sean, I'm using a ten-finger grip on the baseball bat but not on the golf club! It may be a bit of an illusion, however, resulting from the extra-large JumboMax grips on my clubs. Thanks for your ongoing support!! Tom
The trail elbow returning to the side of the body is a large part of the shallowing. IMO One can really see it in the baseball swing. The trail leg bending down also.....which is part of the lead hip clear.
Hi Clifton, I’m using JumboMax grips. I personally love the feel as well as how they help to keep my hands quiet through the zone. They’re not necessarily for everyone - and my fingers are a bit longer than average - so I routinely tell folks to "try before you buy." Cheers! Tom
Hi Jason, I'm not sure who "Jeff" is 😎, but I’m using JumboMax Ultralite grips in extra-large. I wanted to give them a try for a few reasons, including the fact that DeChambeau uses them and we share similar swing philosophies. These grips keep my hands much quieter - which I personally prefer. Also, since my fingers don't wrap all the way around and dig into my palms, I'm not triggering any forearm tension or activating arms muscles that may otherwise have a tendency to take control of the swing. The Jumbos are not necessarily for everyone - and my fingers are a bit longer than average - so I routinely tell folks to "try before you buy." However, having a properly sized grip that feels both comfortable and secure is critically important as it is our only connection to the object that is going to deliver us blissful joy or deep anguish, yet it is perhaps also the most overlooked equipment fitting component in golf. Tom
@@SagutoGolf Tom, I feel like an idiot because I KNOW your name’s Tom (I watch your channel constantly), and the only reason I wrote “Jeff” is because it was on my mind from reading another comment on one of your videos where a guy called you “Jeff” and you responded with an identical response to what you just you wrote to me 😂 I must’ve subconsciously typed the wrong name, and can’t believe my pig-headedness!? 😅😅 My sincerest apologies! With that being said, thank you for your response! I have the XL Ultralite on my driver, but didn’t know anyone else using that sized grip so I felt out of place and thought maybe they were too large because it? I gripped my other driver with the “small” Ultralite and liked that it felt more similar to a baseball bat grip (like you, I grew up playing baseball). However, I do miss the feeling of the XL! I was pleasantly surprised to watch one of your videos and notice that you were using the same brand grips as me, but couldn’t tell which size they were from the video (hence the reason I wrote this comment). I’m so stoked to know that you & I are in the same boat, and that I’m not the only one! I 100% agree that the larger grips feel great in the hand (I’m 6’4” with XL hands)! My question to you know is that with the XL grips being as large as they are, do you have trouble fitting a full set of XL-gripped irons in your golf bag? I had trouble even getting my one driver to fit comfortably in my bag, and that was just one club? P.S.- I absolutely love your channel and love the way your tips are conveyed in how things should “feel” and thus, easy to replicate in my own swing! You’re awesome, my dude! Thanks, Tom!
I’m using JumboMax grips on all my clubs. I personally love the feel as well as how they help to keep my hands quiet through the zone. They’re not necessarily for everyone - and my fingers are a bit longer than average - so I routinely tell folks to "try before you buy." TS
Hi Tom. When I watched that baseball player I noticed his right arm at the top was almost horizontal. I think in golf they call that a flying elbow. I assume that helps him get power? Something I also noticed watching you swing was that your club head stays outside your swing plane in the follow through. I think my club head comes inside, could that be why I hook? Thanks.
We must recognize that although there are similarities - and the shallowing move demonstrated here is certainly an important one - there are also some definite differences between the baseball and golf swing motions that should not cross over to the other. A club head that is too much inside could be indicative of a hook swing. There's an entire section of my online school dedicated to resolving common swing, contact, and ball flight issues. Have you looked into it? That's where - among many other courses and lessons covering various aspects of the game - you will find very detailed instruction and drills that take you through the entire swing step-by-step from setup to finish. So many folks across the globe are now enjoying the best golf of their lives as a result. Here's a link if you would like to know more about the school - saguto.golf - and here's a link to my free mini-course “The Top 3 Things You Need to Be a Great Ball Striker” if you’re interested in checking it out: go.saguto.golf/ Cheers! Tom
I think one thing I noticed was how much hip turn you have. I think that must help in allowing you to shallow. I feel newbies often swing over the top because they don't get their hips out of the way and there is no place for their arms to go.
Actually, my hip turn is being governed by the lateral movement. One major issue that amateurs routinely struggle with is too much hip turn occurring prematurely in the downswing. The technical term is "disassociation", meaning that the lower body moves laterally towards the target while the upper body - and therefore your swing center - remain in place. That's the formula for preventing the hips from spinning out early and routing the club steeply across the ball. Here's a lesson video on this topic: ruclips.net/video/dB4ItR3guGU/видео.html So yes - hip turn is an important component, but it must be kept at bay until the proper moment. The lateral action of the lower body accomplishes this for us. TS
I went to the range last night after not having played or practiced in several weeks. Lo and behold, someone had left a KFC cup on my tee! (I'm not making this up.) I took that as a good omen. Unfortunately, I had not yet watched this video, but just working on straight arms Gorilla glued to my side, with a steady head and weight forward, I hit mostly crispy shots. Can't wait to take this out to the course!
It was definitely a sign, Frank, and I hope you left it there for the next person after dieting on your portion of crispiness..... 😎 Keep up the great work and have fun out there!! Tom PS: By the way, here's a link to my FREE mini-course “The Top 3 Things You Need to Be a Great Ball Striker” in case you’re interested in learning about some key tenets of the swing system I teach in a more structured manner: go.saguto.golf/
Yes indeed. That's the exact topic of this recent episode: ruclips.net/video/ukwnUkpWxHM/видео.html This lesson on the "magic elbow" has helped countless golfers across the globe to overcome a myriad of issues and experience great ball striking! TS
The way I finally understood 'shallowing the club' was to feel that I have 'low hands' coming into the back of the ball via the downswing. At least, I think it amounts to the same thing.
We all need to work out our own swing "feels", Stefan. That's how we go about taking ownership of our swing. The ease of recording video in today's world allows us to then confirm that a particular feel is producing the desired effect. Let your ball striking and shot shape be your guide! Tom
You don't need to You don't need to "drop it in the slot" if it's already there, Jeff. That's the theme of this lesson from my channel's archives: ruclips.net/video/0IxI_qmaF_A/видео.html With regard to the shallowness of your backswing, the swing is a tilted circle (or arc, if we wish to get technical), the circumference of which extends from the ball to above and behind our shoulders. As such, if we are going to remain on that circle/arc it requires the hands and club to take a slightly inward path - not a disconnected snatch or roll to the inside - just a natural tracing of the outer rim or circumference. Here are some lessons related to this: - ruclips.net/video/1gzcyrJ_yBw/видео.html - ruclips.net/video/WxDD63quyk8/видео.html - ruclips.net/video/ylVWSenTtOw/видео.html We create depth in this swing, and that enables us to harness the power of swinging on a circle through a seemingly effortless force known as angular momentum. Here's a link to my FREE mini-course “The Top 3 Things You Need to Be a Great Ball Striker” in case you’re interested in learning some key aspects of the swing system I teach in a more structured manner: go.saguto.golf/ Tom
@@SagutoGolf Thanks Tom for responding back. I appreciate it and I will check out these videos and your mini course. I recently found your channel and I’m loving it so far.
Glad you enjoyed it, JJ!! I have phased out in-person instruction so I can further dedicate my efforts in support of the online school. I will, however, continue the V1 Swing Video Analysis lessons as they are instrumental to the progress of my school's members, and these can be done for anyone from anywhere across the globe, school member or not. This enables me to put my eyes on a player's swing and offer some very specific observations and corrective action plans if applicable. The process involves downloading the free V1 app and then submitting two videos to me through the app - one down-the-line (captured from your stance line, not the target line) and the other face-on. You'll find more information about the V1 Analysis halfway down this page on the Saguto.Golf site: saguto.golf/p/sagutogolf And here's a link if you and your son would like to know more about the school: saguto.golf Tom
Hi Bernard, I have phased out in-person instruction so I can further dedicate my efforts in support of the online school. I will, however, continue the V1 Swing Video Analysis lessons as they are instrumental to the progress of my school's members, and these can be done for anyone from anywhere across the globe, school member or not. This enables me to put my eyes on your swing and offer some very specific observations and corrective action plans if applicable. The process involves downloading the free V1 app and then submitting two videos to me through the app - one down-the-line (captured from your stance line, not the target line) and the other face-on. You'll find more information about the V1 Analysis halfway down this page on the Saguto.Golf site: saguto.golf/p/sagutogolf And here's a link if you are not already enrolled in the school and would like to know more about it: saguto.golf Thanks! Tom
Your shanks can be the result of a variety of actions: 1) You may be too steep on the downswing and thereby exposing the hosel to the ball; 2) Conversely, your downswing path may be too in to out; 3) You may be rolling the face open or snatching the club inside with the hands in the takeaway; 4) Your wrists may not be hinging properly (which is often the case when a golfer tries to manufacture or force the hinge rather than just allowing it to happen); 5) You are setting up with the ball positioned at the heel of the club; 6) You are losing your pre-established relationship with the ball (i.e.: a deficiency in the Tilt component); 7) More... What I'm getting at is that there are a number of potential causes, and without actually seeing your swing it's impossible for me to identify the culprit behind those hosel rockets. FYI, there are entire sections of my online school dedicated to resolving common swing, contact, and ball flight issues. Have you looked into it? That's where - among many other courses and lessons covering various aspects of the game - you will find very detailed instruction and drills that take you through the entire swing step-by-step, position-by-position from setup to finish. Thousands of folks across the globe are now enjoying the best golf of their lives as a result, and I'm happy to let their unsolicited testimonials tell the story: saguto.golf/p/sagutogolfreviews. Beyond that, the Precision Impact that I’ve demonstrated in various lesson videos including this one - ruclips.net/video/hVxTSCNRroo/видео.html - is an excellent training aid that will help you to neutralize the cause and overcome this issue. I highly recommend it. If interested you can get your Precision Impact Trainer here - pureswingproducts.com/SagutoGolf In fact, they are running an extra-special offer for SagutoGolfers right now! For a limited time use code SAGUTOGOLF at checkout for $40 OFF and Free Shipping. Tom Saguto, PGA
@SagutoGolf Tom, appreciate your very detailed response. FYI, I recently started implementing the elbow more pinned to body move and have been hitting the ball so much more consistently and have dropped an average of 10 strokes to my game. Feel like I'm moving into that next level of my game and trying to get under and be consistently under 90 now!
Hey Tom, i went over to litchfield today hoping you worked here and looking for lessons. I guess you do everything virtually now? I would love to do a package of some sort with my father but the cyber stuff doesn't seem to really work for me. Im Bummed
@jbarry80, I have phased out in-person instruction so I can further dedicate my efforts in support of the online school. I will, however, continue the V1 Swing Video Analysis lessons as they are instrumental to the progress of my school's members, and these can be done for anyone from anywhere across the globe, school member or not. This enables me to put my eyes on your swing and offer some very specific observations and corrective action plan if applicable. And although these are "virtual", they are highly effective as a supplemental resource for the structured, comprehensive, sequential learning platform of the school. The process involves downloading the free V1 app and then submitting two videos to me through the app - one down-the-line (captured from your stance line, not the target line) and the other face-on. You'll find more information about the V1 Analysis halfway down this page on the Saguto.Golf site: saguto.golf/p/sagutogolf And here's a link if you are not already enrolled in the school and would like to know more about it: saguto.golf At $99 you can get an entire year's membership for less than what you would have previously paid for just a half-hour of in-person instruction. As an enrolled member you'll enjoy: - Unlimited access to comprehensive members-only systems for the full swing. - Short game courses: Chipping, Pitching, Bunker play, Putting. - Simplified, succinct, step-by-step lessons and drills designed to put you on an accelerated path towards learning everything in a well-organized, self-guided fashion. - Detailed troubleshooting diagnostic videos and fixes for a variety of common swing issues. - Power & Distance course. - Shot-Shaping Grid course. - Ball Flight Fixes course. - Indoor Training Program. - The quick-start “Get Out and Go Play” program. - A Members' Forum where you can ask specific swing-related questions, interact with others in the SagutoGolf community, and suggest new content ideas. - Access to all exclusive paid RUclips channel members-only content at no additional charge. - Discounted rate on my V1 Swing Video Analysis service. - Ongoing additions of new professional instruction content. - More! I hope you'll give the school some thought! Tom
I've always found it difficult to get the same feel with the golf club than a bat, as a former baseball player, I'm curious on your thoughts whether it helps get that feeling with the fatter grips..I noticed you're using a big grip. The hand alignment is different with a bat than a club.
There are similarities but also some definite differences between the two motions, Chris. However, that shallowing component - the one emphasized in this lesson - is one that we former baseball players can understand and recreate without too much difficulty. I’m using JumboMax grips. I personally love the feel as well as how they help to keep my hands quiet through the zone. They’re not necessarily for everyone - and my fingers are a bit longer than average - so I routinely tell folks to "try before you buy." TS
I wonder why that reflex to hit over the top is so strong. It seems inherent with everyone who takes up the game. I’ve been able to control it, but it does take discipline.
It's typically related to the well-ingrained instinct to "hit at" the ball rather than swing through it, and you are correct - it takes considerable work and discipline for most folks to overcome it. Keep up the great work!! Tom
Hi Brenda, When properly deployed in sequence our hips play a role in preserving our downswing path and they can certainly provide a power boost. When prematurely rotated, all bets are off. For example, the lateral targetward action of the hips acts as a governor on the rotational component, thereby enabling the player to keep their upper torso square and their swing center intact without having to fight their body. It's also a move that you will notice with every great ball striker. (Cue up a face-on video of any Tour player, put your finger, mouse pointer, or some other reference tool on their lead hip at address, and then observe the extent to which the hips move laterally past your pointer in the downswing while - and this is key - the head and thus the swing center remains in place.) This will occur naturally if we allow it to, but unfortunately the misguided "fire the hips" notion has plagued so many amateurs with an early-onset spinout that makes them steep and across the line, or they get stuck, early extend, flip, etc. For them, the "feel" of the shoulders leading will help in overcoming this, correctly engaging their hips and fixing their path, thereby leading them to a solid, "crispy" impact condition. In general terms, I do my best to convey multiple “feels” or thoughts throughout the swing wherever possible. We're all different physiologically and psychologically, and something that resonates effectively with one golfer may not necessarily work for another. As such, it is important to understand that the lessons on this channel - while fully aligned with the swing method I teach - address a variety of topics, issues, feels, and/or common flaws/fixes from one episode to the next. They are certainly not intended to be taken as a comprehensive, step-by-step, position-by-position learning platform like the structured curriculum of my online school, which I strongly recommend to anyone who truly wishes to get on the proper path towards owning this swing as it will make for a far more efficient and enjoyable learning process rather than haphazardly trying to piece things together through my RUclips content. The lessons and drills provide the guidelines and set the boundaries, while allowing ample leeway for each individual golfer to infuse and exercise their own uniqueness. Thousands of men and women from across the globe - including many accomplished, low-handicap, competitive players and spanning all age ranges from junior to super-senior - are now enjoying the best golf of their lives as a result of the school, and their unsolicited testimonials tell the story quite well: saguto.golf/p/sagutogolfreviews. Would you like to learn some key aspects of the body-friendly, powerful, low-maintenance swing system I teach in a more structured manner? If so, then here is a link to my recently updated FREE mini course “The Top 3 Keys You Need to Be a Great Ball Striker”: go.saguto.golf/ Featuring 17 videos and 45 minutes of detailed lesson and drill content, this is a great way to gain a fundamental understanding of this system as well as an introduction to the formal instruction method that is delivering the referenced results. Thanks, Tom Saguto, PGA
Just tried this, my feeling was that the logo of my glove wipes across the inside of the ball (my side of the ball) it squares the face ridiculously cant wait to hit the course with this feeling
@@SagutoGolf I followed this technique you teach for about a year now and everything was good but the driver went off the boil. I was weight in lead foot left hip towards target and able to hook it if needed but now slices!! Would be good to have a suggestion of one of your videos best for getting back to those big draws
Oftentimes when golfers are hitting everything well except for the driver it can be attributed to one of the following: 1) They don't start with - or maintain - enough weight on the front side. In general with the longer clubs we should add a little more front weight load at address - more like 60/40 instead of the 55/45 prescribed for the other clubs. This forward weight should gradually increase to the top of the backswing (70/30) and build further on the downswing - approximately 80/20 halfway down, 90/10 impact, and 95/5 finish. 2) Their hips are not continuing their lateral slide through impact. This is common with the longer clubs as the wider stance means that the hips have a greater distance to travel. If the hips stop moving laterally towards the target on the downswing then their rotation takes over, changing the low point and rerouting the club. This can produce a variety of undesirable results including fat and thin contact, topped shots and popups, straight pulls, and “banana” slices. Here's a channel video on this topic: ruclips.net/video/dB4ItR3guGU/видео.html 3) They are not allowing the length of the club to dictate the backswing path and are getting too steep as a result. Have a look at this lesson video: ruclips.net/video/o0xscMyN3v8/видео.html The shaft length of the longer clubs encourages more of an around the body backswing as established by the shaft plane at address. It may "feel" flat as you take it back along the shaft plane for the first few feet, but as long as you maintain the "weight forward, shoulder down, and hands in" components while allowing the club to work around you, it should put you in the proper position at the top so you can attack the ball from the inside. It’s essentially the same swing with every club; just some minor setup differences and naturally occurring shaft plane changes as we graduate up in club length from short irons to woods. In fact, here is a video of Stack and Tilt co-founder Mike Bennett hitting the driver: ruclips.net/video/7fmtzyH3rsA/видео.html. It looks very similar to his iron swing, right?: ruclips.net/video/SLjwU_1Cc7o/видео.html If you search the word "drive" on this channel you'll see some related content. Upon learning this swing properly you will be harnessing the tremendous power source known as "angular momentum". This is the reason my students and online school members of all age ranges end up bombing it farther than they ever had previously. Speaking of which, if you'd really like to own this swing through your entire bag please consider enrolling in my online school as so many folks across the globe are now playing the best golf of their lives as a result. The school's intuitive curriculum greatly simplifies the entire process through succinct, step-by-step videos, plus there’s so much additional guided instruction courses and content on the many other aspects of the game. Here's a link if you'd like additional info: saguto.golf. I hope to see you there. TS
If it's problematic in terms of impact quality and curvature, then there's an entire section of my online school dedicated to resolving common swing, contact, and ball flight issues. ( saguto.golf ) Otherwise, if you are satisfied on both accounts then I suggest that you simply let your ball striking and shot shape be your guide. TS
I've been taking too much loft off the driver it's driving me crazy good strikes that don't sniff the top and the trees guess a 14° driver is the future
Sounds like a professional driver fitting session might be something for you to consider, Chad. It could be the shaft and not the driver head. In this regard you might find this episode documenting my fitting session to be eye-opening (I know it was for me!): ruclips.net/video/xp2c-oYQRVI/видео.html TS
Thank you so much tom for teaching me this video. I really appreciate it and you’re one of the best golf instructors that I’ve ever had I’ve been mashing the ball crispy, KFC mashed potatoes. I really hope you can make a video of how to hit long irons and Woods. Thank you so much
Hello again, Donaven. I believe I answered a similar question from you earlier. As mentioned in that response, it’s essentially the same swing with every club; just some minor setup differences and naturally occurring shaft plane changes as we graduate up in club length from short irons to woods. If you search the word "drive" on this channel you'll see some content related to the driver. Cheers! Tom
The majority of amateur golfers get steep at the transition or early in the downswing, Sheldon, and as such they must fight that shot-killing tendency by emphasizing a shallowing "feel" in order to ultimately match the backswing plane (as discussed in this video: ruclips.net/video/0IxI_qmaF_A/видео.html ) Tom
Yes, as long as the hip rotation is properly governed by the simultaneous lateral targetward hip action as demonstrated in this lesson: ruclips.net/video/I5XYgKopTb4/видео.html TS
Have you actually been properly instructed in the system, or are you working off of a book and/or random videos? I ask this because most golfers who learn the S&T system properly stay with it for life as it produces consistently great results for them in a most sustainable, body-friendly manner. With regard to my YT content, it is important to understand that the videos, lessons, and drills on this free channel - while fully aligned with the swing method I teach - address a variety of topics, issues, feels, and/or common flaws/fixes from one episode to the next. They are certainly not intended to be taken as a comprehensive, sequential learning platform like the structured curriculum of my online school, which I strongly recommend to anyone who truly wishes to get on the proper path towards owning this swing. So many folks across the globe are now enjoying the best golf of their lives as a result. Here's a link if you would like to learn more about the school - saguto.golf - and here's a link to my free mini-course “The Top 3 Things You Need to Be a Great Ball Striker” if you’re interested in checking it out: go.saguto.golf/ Cheers! Tom
@@SagutoGolf it really did help me from shooting over 100 to breaking 90. But at this point the reverse pivot for sure is hurting. Has to be a reason not many pros do it. I like your videos on the right elbow though!
@Rudra Patel - Actually, if one were to ask how many PGA Tour major championship winners TILTED, TURNED, and EXTENDED in the golf swing, the answer would be all of them! Stack and Tilt is a golf swing system based on data from the game’s best golf ball strikers. For this reason, someone can be embracing key Stack and Tilt elements without being aware of it. This is because there are basic requirements that must be met to hit a golf ball consistently on the center of the clubface. There are also components necessary to add power to the golf swing without sacrificing accuracy. Stack and Tilt determined, based on a study of the best golfers of all time, that they all had 3 things in common (the 3 main golf fundamentals): 1. Hit the ground in the same spot every time (consistently crispy contact) 2. Have enough power to play the golf course well (distance) 3. Be able to have a predictable curve (accuracy). A player MUST be able to do these three non-negotiables in order to truly be good at golf, and Stack and Tilt provides a road map for accomplishing them incredibly well in a low-maintenance and body-friendly manner. As far as Tour players using 100% of it, 99% of it, 97% of it, or 78% of it, it doesn't really matter because they're ALL doing it to some extent. Those 3 fundamentals never change!
Have you checked out my FREE mini-course “The Top 3 Things You Need to Be a Great Ball Striker” yet? It is a great starting point for learning some key aspects of this swing system I teach in a more structured manner: go.saguto.golf/
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swing looking good Saguto, too easy for you
Great vid! I would love to see you play some holes or maybe even 9 and explain your golf as you go, I think it would make a great video!
I concur this would be great.
Thanks Christian! Here's a 9-hole Course Vlog along the lines of what you are asking for: ruclips.net/video/YLVhf0VdWSw/видео.html
I hope you enjoy it!!
Tom
Went straight to the range after watching this and in about 3 swings got a totally different feel/result. Much better, more consistent contact and ball flight. I played a lot of baseball in my youth, but never used the "shallowing" idea for golf. It really worked. Another great video.
Awesome!! I'm glad this lesson provided you with that missing link between the two motions. Great job building it into your swing so quickly and effectively!!
Tom
Thanks!
Thank you so much, Joseph - I sincerely appreciate your support and I am very glad to know that you are enjoying my channel's content!!
Tom
YOU MADE IT CLEAR! THNKS.
LOL! I'm glad it resonated well with you!!
Tom
After twenty years of golf and old school teaching by pro golfers of the swing plane, this has made such a difference. Thank you 🙏
I sincerely appreciate your kind words, Rodney, and I'm very glad to know that my instruction is resonating with you!!
How interesting and sad it is that with all the advances in equipment, technology, golf course grooming, etc. the average golfer still struggles to break 100. Epic failures within the realm of “conventional” instruction, perhaps??? So many misconstrued and/or misguided teachings - such as taking the club straight back, turning the shoulders level while independently lifting the arms, shifting into and torquing against a firm trail side, actively rolling the hands through impact, etc. - have relegated generations of golfers to the vast abyss of inconsistency and chronic frustration (and chronic back/knee/hip pain as well). I’m doing my best here to clear these up one by one and put an end to this madness, and thank you for sharing your improvement.
Keep up the great work!!
Tom
PS: By the way, since you are liking my channel's content, I think you will really enjoy and benefit from the comprehensive, structured, step-by-step learning platform for all the finer aspects of the swing (and the game in general) in my online school. Have you looked into it yet? Thousands of men and women from across the globe - including many seasoned, low-handicap, competitive players and spanning all age ranges from junior to super-senior - are now enjoying the best golf of their lives as a result, and I'm happy to let their unsolicited testimonials tell the story: saguto.golf/p/sagutogolfreviews. And here is a link to my free mini course “The Top 3 Things You Need to Be a Great Ball Striker” if you are interested in checking it out: go.saguto.golf/
After all the lessons I’ve had over ten years not one golf teacher has mentioned the butt leading the clubhead down. My difficulties continued until now. Thanks to you I can now feel the club shallowing and the butt leading the way. In fact this move forces my hips to move first. It felt though that the clubhead was never going to find the ball, but it does. Also feels like it’s coming in sideways but it squares up with the hips turning. Amazing feeling! It seems the teachers here in Australia don’t want to give too many secrets away so we have to keep going back and back again. I’ve always been told to shift my weight better, nothing about the way the club comes down. I’ve casted and topped and fatted my way to an 18 handicap. My shots are now crispy, what a difference. Love your videos 🙏
I’m writing you a tremendous thank you. I’m 53 and been playing since I was 14. It’s the only sport I’ve struggled with. I played basketball and baseball in college. I could dunk 2 handed and hit a baseball 450’. Tournament water skied in my 20’s and 30’s. Raced motorcycles. I was good at all stick and ball sports. But golf always tortured me. I was athletic enough to get by. Played to a 5 handicap but didn’t know if I was gonna shoot 73 or 83. But since coming across your channel I’m scratch easy. I got by because I could hit it a ton. Club head speed in my early 40’s was 121 so if I halfway kept it in play I’d do ok. After coming across rolling your ankle on the downswing video the athletic lightbulb went off. I’m easily scratch or better now. I even putt with my feet now making a minuscule imperceptible roll/banking move in my forward stroke. It keeps my putter square and accelerating. The physics of the strike in the full swing is unreal. You feel like you’re doing very little and the ball explodes off the club. WHat I’ve realized is by banking the right foot and keeping the inside of the heel down it drives the hips in the right direction not spinning and it forces you to use your right side to and through the strike and you hit the ball hard with the palm of the right hand like a shove just like a baseball swing. And you finish with the back of your right hand and the palm of your left facing your target. I’ve also noticed now the great ball strikers keep their heel on the ground longer. With irons Palmer and Trevino and hogan don’t release their heel from the ground until the club is at 3 o’clock or past. Other pros I’ve seen couples els are like 4 o’clock. I’m hitting absolute lasers. Sad though I’ve lost about 12 mph since my early 40’. Using this I don’t struggle with alignment anymore, use it on chips they’re all solid with zip, flop shots I set up open open the face and just bank the ankle with my body lines. All you have to do now to move the ball left or right is do what Jack said. Just aim left or right open or close the face and swing normally. It also changes your whole mindset on course management. If you get in trouble you don’t have to risk anything crazy. If I can get within sandwedge away I’m gonna put the ball 10-15 feet away and a great chance for par for example. They said hogan had a secret well I’ve discovered mine thanks to you. Bty the old guys had it going on straightening the trail leg in the back swing. That resisting and holding the flex is for the birds. I think a ton of pros were damaged with 90’s instruction.
Oh bty my daughter and I entered a 2 man 2 weeks ago we shot 64 made 3 eagles took all the skins the first day. About 500$😂. She’s been playing 4 months. Again thank you. You’re a good a little unorthodox in a good way and the best online instructor I’ve ever seen. One more thing that simple move is why Trevino could take it outside and Palmer inside and it would reroute into the slot. Take a look at Miller barber that is proof in the pudding there. Use him as an example in a video on the importance of rolling the ankle.
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Hi Christopher,
I sincerely appreciate you taking the time to share your improvement in such detail. And congratulations to you and your daughter on firing a tremendous score and cleaning up on the skins!!
Golf is indeed counterintuitive to those of us who excelled in other sports - particularly baseball - that is, until it is not. And the "not" part can only happen if we are truly able to understand the differences and properly harness the similarities. Sadly, "conventional" instruction never gave us that, and thus we have generations of amateur golfers - amongst them countless excellent athletes - senselessly stuck in the vast abyss of frustration and physical/psychological anguish. It doesn't have to be that way, and thankfully many good folks like yourself are discovering this and now getting on with enjoying the best golf of their lives.
Thanks again for your kind words and support, keep up the fabulous work, and have fun out there with your new "golf buddy"!!
Tom
I made an albatross yesterday!!
I'm posting another "Thank You" to Tom for this particular video. He's posted a lot of excellent material, but this one has truly helped me rediscover my swing. Completely changed my backswing for the better, and that in turn, has improved my downswing and ball striking. Really, Tom, this one is a major-league teaching tool.
Major league?? LOL!!!
I'm very glad to know that this baseball feel resonated well with you. As I've said to other former baseball players (I'm one myself), we need to understand the differences and harness the similarities between the two motions. Accomplish that and we can build a very good, consistent, powerful golf swing. Otherwise we can easily find ourselves stuck in the abyss of counter-intuitiveness.
Thanks for your comment and support!!
Tom
I just wanted to thank you for all the useful information I am gathering by watching your videos. I really appreciate the way you explain the golf swing. You make it fun and easy to understand. Keep up the good work.
I sincerely appreciate that and I'm very glad to know that my instruction content and style are resonating with you!!
Though I must tell you that since you are liking my channel's content I firmly believe that you will really enjoy and benefit from the comprehensive, structured, step-by-step learning platform of my online school. Have you looked into it yet? Thousands of folks across the globe are now enjoying the best golf of their lives as a result, and I'm happy to let their unsolicited testimonials tell the story: saguto.golf/p/sagutogolfreviews.
Thanks again for your kind words and support. Embrace the process and have fun out there!!
Tom
Thanks once again for your helpful reminders 👍
My pleasure - I'm glad you enjoyed the lesson!!
Tom
Brother your videos have helped me tremendously I appreciate you
Awesome!! 💪💪
I'm very glad to know that my instruction is resonating with you, Tony - thanks so much for sharing your improvement and keep up the great work!!
Tom
PS: If you've not already joined, have you considered enrolling in the online school and taking your learning - and your game - to the next level? That's where - in addition to detailed lessons and drills that take you through the entire swing step-by-step from setup to finish - you'll find diagnostic tools for identifying/resolving swing and ball flight issues when they arise, plus advanced level instruction, and much more. Thousands of men and women from across the globe - including many seasoned, low-handicap, competitive players and spanning all age ranges from junior to super-senior - are now enjoying the best golf of their lives as a result, and I'm happy to let their unsolicited testimonials tell the story: saguto.golf/p/sagutogolfreviews. And here's a link to my free mini course “The Top 3 Things You Need to Be a Great Ball Striker” if you’re interested in checking it out: go.saguto.golf/
You’re the man Tom. I went to the range and never in my life hit the ball better then I did today! Driver has always been a struggle for me. Today straight almost every drive! Thank again. Your online school is awesome I recommend it it to all.
That's awesome to hear, Kurt!! I sincerely appreciate you sharing your improvement as well as your online school testimonial!!
By the way, have you joined the SagutoGolf Community Forum (which is included in your online school membership) yet and begun engaging with other golfers in the school? If you've not already done so it only takes a minute or two to enroll - just go to your “My Courses” screen and you’ll see a link to get started. Once signed in you’ll be able to access in this fun and tremendously supportive community and participate in the ongoing great dialogue on a variety of swing- and game-related topics. You can start discussions, contribute to existing threads, post accomplishments and specific swing questions, make some new friends, and just share in the common bond and banter of golfers from around the world seeking to improve their games and help others to do the same. I monitor the forum and participate as well. I really think you will enjoy it!!
Thanks again for your support, keep it crispy, and have fun out there!!
Tom
Great video Tom thank you very much
Thanks Craig! Based on your last comment I thought you would enjoy this golf video featuring Mike Trout! 😎
Tom, love your videos. I tell anyone who will listen, to check out your videos on RUclips. This fall I plan on joining your online golf school.
I sincerely appreciate your kind words, and I'm very glad to know that my instruction content and teaching style are resonating with you!!
Thanks so much for referrals and support, and I look forward to seeing you soon in the school!!
Tom
Great video. Been watching your RUclips for a couple of months now and it’s helping my game a lot. Thanks Tom
Glad you enjoyed the episode, Barrie, and I'm very happy to know that my instruction is resonating well with you!!
Thanks for sharing your improvement and keep up the great work!!
Tom
I am a fan of your swing philosophy as well as your videos which are informative and entertaining. I have recently been switching to the stack and tilt method based on your videos and believe this is the best method for amateurs. Keep up the great videos.
@rjchombre - I sincerely appreciate your kind words regarding the Stack and Tilt system as well as my instruction style and content!!
By the way, have you considered enrolling in the online school and taking your learning - and your game - to the next level? That's where - in addition to detailed lessons and drills that take you through the entire swing step-by-step from setup to finish - you'll find diagnostic tools for identifying/resolving swing and ball flight issues when they arise, plus advanced level courses on shot shaping, power and distance, and much more So many folks across the globe - including many seasoned, low-handicap, competitive players - are now enjoying the best golf of their lives as a result. Here's a link if you would like to know more about the school - saguto.golf
Thanks again and keep up the great work!!
Tom
Tnx a million Tom!
My pleasure, Jincy - I hope all's well with you!!!
just home from a fourball with my buddies shaved 7 strokes off my score today you're the man 👨 Tom thanks maxi
AWESOME!!! Great job putting this into play so quickly!!!
Tom
Tom a Great Demonstration with the bat, as usual a job. Thanks
Thanks Ken - I'm glad you enjoyed it!!
Tom
Thank you TS!
My pleasure, DW!!
High level hitters in baseball actually tilt the shoulders in the downswing to get the butt of the bat travelling down the line and at the ball which produces this shallowing and then when they snap the hands the barrel goes right at the ball through the zone on the diagonal. You can see this with the baseball player in in the video. It's not well understood or taught but your video has demonstrated it perfectly here. The golf swing is the same way, you have to tilt and deliver the club, bat from a powerful position. You load, tilt and release, can help in both sports.
I'm glad you enjoyed the video, Justin!
Obviously, the "tilt" in baseball is variable and reactionary depending on pitch location. In golf it is preestablished at address in relation to the static ball position. It is also not necessary - and is actually counterproductive - to try to time some kind of contrived, split-second "release" of the hands/wrists. The proper action through the zone will occur naturally if we train it and then simply allow it to happen.
Thanks!
Tom
Nice color of the bat
Thanks. Glad you like it.
Finally have discovered the shallowing feel in the down swing. Tried it at the range, felt great, can’t wait to try it on the course! Thanks Tom!!
That's awesome, Bill! I'm very glad to know that this lesson resonated well with you.
Keep up the great work and have fun out there!!
Tom
I like this presentation style
Thanks Marshall!!
Good one Saguto! 👍
Glad you enjoyed it, Roger!!
TS
These videos are mega, thanks. Explains a lot as to why my ball striking is so inconsistent.
I'm glad to know that my instruction is resonating well with you!
By the way, here's a link to my FREE mini-course “The Top 3 Things You Need to Be a Great Ball Striker” in case you’re interested in learning about some key tenets of the swing system I teach in a more structured manner: go.saguto.golf/
Cheers!
Tom
@@SagutoGolf great, thanks. Definitely interested, in particular how to ensure my swing plane is correct and not too steep.
I hope you find it to be helpful!!
TS
Excellent Tom. Finally I understood how to shallow the club in the downswing. Nice golf setup with the launching machine. 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼⛳️
Thanks Cesar - I'm glad this lesson resonated well with you, and I'm happy to know that you are enjoying the addition of the launch monitor!!
Keep up the great work!!
Tom
Props for keeping the topped shot in the Vid.
Thanks. No need to mask reality. To the contrary, it ought to deliver some sense of comfort to see a pro flub a shot every now and then, because it definitely does happen!
Cheers!
Tom
I want some more course vlogs! Loved your first two
Glad you enjoyed them, Jason!
TS
Good video Tom..after seeing this video, I realize I need to stop trying to be perfect at the top. And..I need to make sure I hold firmly at the top
The key in the backswing is to put yourself in position to make a transition into a good downswing. Watch a Tour event and you'll see a variety of backswings. Which one is "perfect"? It doesn't matter because they would not be on Tour if their downswing didn't consistently bring them to a solid impact condition.
Cheers!
Tom
this baseball type swing is a great practice for someone of my age Tom i can do it anywhere inside in the warmth of the house thanks buddy
Thanks - I'm glad you enjoyed it!! Be careful swinging the bat - and the club - inside that warm house.... 😎
TS
Tom, you’ll never know how watching your videos has improved my game. I’m actually a pretty decent golfer now.
That's awesome!! Thanks so much for sharing your improvement; I'm very glad to know that my instruction is resonating well with you.
By the way, if you've not already joined have you considered enrolling in the online school and taking your learning - and your game - to the next level? That's where - in addition to detailed lessons and drills that take you through the entire swing step-by-step from setup to finish - you'll find diagnostic tools for identifying/resolving swing and ball flight issues when they arise, plus advanced level courses on shot shaping, power and distance, and much more. Thousands of folks across the globe - including many seasoned, low-handicap, competitive players - are now enjoying the best golf of their lives as a result. Here's a link if you would like to know more about the school - saguto.golf
Keep up the great work!!
Tom
Who is this fin guy. He has helped me shave. 8 strokes to a 3.7 handy. This fin guy is a star.
An fin star.
That's awesome!! 💪💪 I appreciate knowing that my channel's instruction content is resonating well with you, and I'm very glad to learn of your dramatic handicap improvement!
Thanks for sharing your progress and keep up the great work!!
Tom
PS: By the way, since my channel's content is performing well for you, I am quite certain you will really enjoy and benefit from the comprehensive, structured, step-by-step learning platform in my online school. Have you enrolled yet? It will put you on the fast track towards really mastering this system and taking ownership of a consistent, powerful, low-maintenance, body-friendly swing. Thousands of men and women from across the globe - including many seasoned, low-handicap, competitive players and spanning all age ranges from junior to super-senior - are now enjoying the best golf of their lives as a result, and I'm happy to let their unsolicited testimonials tell the story: saguto.golf/p/sagutogolfreviews.
Tom I was amazed to see the baseball player had the Ben Hogan Magic Elbow and had his weight all the way forward . Wonderful similarities. Emil
That "tuck" is so critical to keeping the shaft - or the bat - one plane, Emil!!
Top coach
Thanks - I appreciate that!!
Tom
Love the launch monitor data. What system are you using? Keep trying to spread this information, we all need the reminder or the new information
Glad you enjoyed it!
I'm using a Flightscope Mevo+ Pro Package, and I have it linked to my iPad. It also includes 6 golf courses for sim play and 17 virtual practice range options.
Cheers!
TS
Quick question what are using for your simulator for yard ages etc
Hi John,
I'm using a Flightscope Mevo+ Pro Package, and I have it linked to my iPad. It also includes 6 golf courses for sim play and 17 virtual practice range options.
TS
Great video. This has helped me a lot. At 3:56 you talk about the back of lead hand being “more skyward “. Many others talk about getting the club face angle matching the spine angle at P6. That requires turning the back of the lead hand more toward the ground. That created over the top swings 3:58
With the more shallow approach to the ball as you described with the back of the lead hand somewhat skyward, is continuing to rotate the body the key to getting the club face square ? Thanks!
I'm glad you enjoyed it, Michael!
With regard to your question, after the proper positions/motions are ingrained I much prefer entrusting the swing to the big muscles as opposed to contrived "handsy" manipulations that must be precisely repeated each and every time.
Having said that, I do my best to convey multiple “feels” or thoughts in my instruction wherever possible because we're all different physiologically and psychologically, and something that resonates effectively with one golfer may not necessarily work for another. However, no matter the variety of suggested feels/thoughts offered for a particular element of the swing, they are all directed at getting different golfers to achieve the desired positions, motions, and ball striking results. This is one reason is why the comprehensive, structured, sequential learning platform of my online school is so effective, and why thousands of folks across the globe are now enjoying the best golf of their lives as a result (and I'm happy to let their unsolicited testimonials tell the story: saguto.golf/p/sagutogolfreviews ). The lessons and drills provide the guidelines and set the boundaries, while allowing ample leeway for each individual golfer to infuse and exercise their own uniqueness.
The school is where you will find the level of detail that I know you are seeking based on the precise nature of your question.
Thanks,
Tom
Tom: Thanks. I’ve been working on this shallowing motion/feel and it helps a lot. Many other instructors, including those from whom I have taken lessons, emphasize to “turn the knuckles down”. That motion seems unnecessary in the swing which you teach. Am I correct about that and can forget about “knuckles down”? When I try it the ball seems to go left. Thanks for the clarification.
Tom say's " Play the best golf of your life". I'm doing exactly that and having a blast. My buddies can't believe it, 77 yesterday because I practice what Tom teaches.
Fantastic round, Kenny!!
(When are you going to let your buddies in on our "little secret"?.... 😎)
Thanks for sharing your success and keep up the great work!!
Tom
@@SagutoGolf Tom I tell them all the time but unfortunately some old dogs refuse to learn new tricks. I'll keep trying though, cheers Tom 🍻
In the meantime, Kenny, just keep beating them mercilessly!!
@@SagutoGolf HaHa Oh I certainly will. 😄
Brilliant
Thanks Dale - I'm glad you enjoyed it!!
TS
I'm sharing this with my softball buddies. I'm also telling them, Young Kershaw has a great golf tip.
Thanks Erick! Glad you enjoyed it, and I hope the same goes for your softball teammates!!
TS
Tom haad an upright swing...swallowing out has given me a fuller shoulder swing
real increased clubhead speed..will order the lag trainer..good image is Jimenez on the senior tour. Don't know where you keep getting this gems!
The "gems" are all based on the physics and geometry in which this swing system is rooted, Dennis. I'm glad they are resonating with you!!
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Tom
Hi Tom ,
Really enjoy your instructions. Thanks.
What are your thoughts about having the right palm facing the sky ( or close as possible ) at the top of the backswing ? I find a lot of positive things happen , like keeping elbows together, right elbow pointed straight to the ground and below lead arm . It also keeps the left wrist flat or slightly bowed and also stops the wrists over hinging resulting in a cupped left wrist . It also promotes left forearm rotation in the last 20% of the backswing. It sets up transition , shallowing the club , getting it more behind you .
Cheers, and thanks once again .
Hi Tommy,
That is certainly one of the "feels" that I teach for the reasons you cited.
Thanks for sharing and keep up the great work!!
Tom
Awesome lesson as usual Tom and your yard looks nice and private. Love the trees and your grass looks to be cut at the preferred length of 2.75. I was gonna say that you should add a quick 2 second unnecessary clip of you cutting your grass into the next video. Would be hilarious. Thanks Tom !
LOL! Thanks Warren - I'll take that under advisement.....😆
TS
👍I tried this out at the range today worked really well with most of my irons, kept hitting heel with 5 iron. Any tips would be really appreciated
Hi Paul,
I'm glad you had some early success with this lesson!
Heel strikes can potentially result from a path that is too much in-to-out, but there are other possibilities as well so it's really not possible for me to diagnose without seeing your swing.
There are entire sections of my online school dedicated to resolving common swing, contact, and ball flight issues. Have you looked into it? That's where - among many other courses and lessons covering various aspects of the game - you will find very detailed instruction and drills that take you through the entire swing step-by-step from setup to finish. Thousands of folks across the globe are now enjoying the best golf of their lives as a result. Here's a link if you would like to know more about the school - saguto.golf - and here's a link to my free mini-course “The Top 3 Things You Need to Be a Great Ball Striker” if you’re interested in checking it out: go.saguto.golf/
Tom
another great heads up for the right feels tom, thankyou, it would be
even greater to see your name pop up on a few golf tourneys also
,you have more than enough talent to compete and do your stuff ,
👍🙂
I sincerely appreciate that, William, but or me to get my complete game to where I can even think about competing at just the mini-tour or PGA Section levels would probably take the better part of a year of dedicated practice (yes - those guys are THAT good!). Beyond that, I thoroughly enjoy what I am doing as a PGA instructor in helping so many people enjoy the game more, and I do not wish to detract from that by falling short on the quality content and related deliverables that my members and subs have come to expect.
Thanks again!!
Tom
Hey Tom on the chips where do you put the worthless like left hand or under on your back of the hand?
Hi Glenn - My apologies but I don't quite understand your question.
Here is a recent lesson on chipping that has really helped a lot of folks with their short games: ruclips.net/video/aatbA39KtRc/видео.html
And here's a link to my FREE mini course “The Top 3 Things You Need to Be a Great Ball Striker” where you can learn some key aspects of the swing system I teach in a more structured manner: go.saguto.golf/
Thanks,
Tom
The essential action can be very clearly seen in your baseball video example. Notice how as the baseball players shoulders come back to parallel with the swing line he starts side bending and keeps increasing the amount to the max possible. Notice how that side bending increases the downward angle of the shoulder line much more than the angle of the hips.
That point of the golf swing where shoulders come back to parallel is when the mass of the lead arm is freed to accelerate down towards the ground much faster than the hips and shoulders are turning. What the tilting of the shoulders does at that point is change the force vector of that arm mass - which is still pulling on the club head mass - to point forward toward the target instead of rotating in a circle around the feet.
I see very few older recreational golfers use any side bend in their swings, perhaps because it is not stressed very much as an essential action in golf instruction. Not without some irony nearly everyone will do the side bend action ideally with their trail arm releasing straight at the target if asked to throw a golf ball with just the trail hand. That is a great drill for grooving the feel of the side bend action and straightening of trail arm towards target needed to get the mass of the lead arm and club head mass it pulls down to release towards the target. 😊
@sagutogolf Using the baseball analogy, what direction would the golf ball be coming at you from and what direction are you trying to hit it? In baseball, the ball is coming from 90-degrees from the direction you're facing and you're basically turning 90-degrees to hit the ball back in the direction from which it came. In golf, since you are bent over, from where would the ball be coming from and where would you be trying to hit it? Would the ball be rolling on the ground from down the line? Or would it be traveling up through the ground towards you?
Hi Marc,
We must recognize that although there are similarities - and the shallowing move demonstrated here is certainly an important one - there are also some definite differences between the baseball and golf swing motions that should not cross over from one to the other. In baseball, the ball is indeed moving and we have to react to the varying pitch speeds, locations, and curvatures, and as a result the swing plane is constantly changing from one pitch to the next. In golf, the ball is just sitting there on the ground - or a tee - on top of "home plate", so we orient ourselves to establish a relationship with that static position, and our swing plane is preset accordingly. It's therefore very difficult to make any comparison in this regard.
Tom
There go Saguto hitting that 60 degree lob wedge 179 yards in the intro!!!!!!! Haha you're the man 😆
LOL! I think it burned up on atmospheric reentry, James.... 😎
Looking to buy the lag shot
Great!! You can get 15% off your Lag Shot by using this link: www.lagshotgolf.com/sagutogolf
I hope you enjoy it as much as I do!
Tom
Great video👍 Can you do a video about keeping your head down lol. Because I played baseball I lift my head to follow the ball too early in the swing I’ m thinking others are doing the same thing? Thanks for creating these great videos 💗
I'm glad you enjoyed it, Sheila!
Here's a lesson regarding keeping a steady head: ruclips.net/video/E5csidjztzg/видео.html As mentioned in the video, this was Jack Nicklaus' most important swing key.
It's important to understand that the swing is a sequential orchestration. This is why it's always best to search upstream for the true cause of an issue rather than try to put a band aid on the symptom. So, for example, oftentimes when golfers believe they are lifting their head prematurely to see the ball flight, the true cause is actually something occurring out of sequence in the downswing. On the flip side, this also means that if you nail each successive variable - starting with the foundations of the setup - then you are facilitating the proper execution of the next swing element. That's how the sequential lessons and the drills of the school are designed to work.
For a good starting point, here is a link to my FREE mini course “The Top 3 Things You Need to Be a Great Ball Striker” where you can learn some key aspects of the swing system I teach in a more structured manner: go.saguto.golf/ (I've recently updated it with some more of my favorite drills!)
Thanks for your message - I'm glad you are enjoying my content!!
Tom
@@SagutoGolf Thanks so much💗
It’s like you’re watched my swing in this video. Thanks!
LOL! You've definitely got plenty of company, Scotty. Glad you enjoyed the lesson!!
Tom
Hi, love these vids, can I ask what golf simulator system do you use to show your stats
Thanks - I'm glad you're enjoying my instruction content!!
I'm using the FlightScope MEVO+ & Pro Package to deliver this accurate launch monitor data. If interested I’ve unlocked special discounts for SagutoGolfers who use this link (discounts below) - flightscopemevo.com/SagutoGolf
- Get Your MEVO for 15% OFF Using Code SAGUTOGOLF
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Cheers!
Tom
Thanks for the video. One ?. In the downswing to impact does the palm of the right hand remain stationary to the ball or point more toward the ground to get the left knuckles in a downward position? Thanks.
There are no contrived, timed handsy actions in this swing, Tommy. If we properly preset the hands, arms, and connections at setup, then we can simply "transport" these relationships from address to finish without the need for manipulation.
Here are some channel lessons on this topic:
- ruclips.net/video/Fe2kQ44azJ4/видео.html
- ruclips.net/video/SunCR5uJ_ao/видео.html
- ruclips.net/video/zw7Rzstq4gY/видео.html
If you've not already joined, have you considered enrolling in the online school and taking your learning - and your game - to the next level? That's where - in addition to detailed lessons and drills that take you through the entire swing step-by-step from setup to finish - you'll find diagnostic tools for identifying/resolving swing and ball flight issues when they arise, plus advanced level courses on shot shaping, power and distance, and much more So many folks across the globe - including many seasoned, low-handicap, competitive players - are now enjoying the best golf of their lives as a result. Here's a link if you would like to know more about the school - saguto.golf
Tom
Great lesson, what's the training club called ? I'm in the UK. Thanks
Glad you enjoyed it, Craig!
The training club is called LagShot. They have PW, 7 iron, and driver versions. Here in the US folks can get15% off when they click this link - www.lagshotgolf.com/sagutogolf - though I'm not sure whether this extends to the UK and elsewhere. It's certainly worth a try as it is a great training aid!
Tom
Hey Tom, it seems to me the Pump drill would really help to teach the shallowing movement by working the swing in that area.
Yes - I do use a variation of that with students as needed, and you may also see it in some of my lesson videos.
Cheers!
Tom
I know it’s your superb show but may I make an offering?
I found this out for myself but there is an important change in the way your wrists move!
I’ve gone away from rotating the wrists to a movement that is similar to beating a rug. Or say slapping. Imagine hitting a hockey stick. You wouldn’t rotate your wrists.
This not only takes a shallower and longer divot ahead of the ball but also keeps the club face square in the impact zone for longer!
Plus it’s easier to shallow the club.
I not only hit it further but also I have lost my left hook.
Plus!!!! It helps to create forward shaft lean!!
Not many trainers mention the wrists.
I appreciate you sharing that, Roger.
There's only so much I can include in a YT video without getting into the "information overload zone". These channel episodes are certainly not intended to be taken as a sequential learning platform like the structured curriculum of my online school, which I strongly recommend to anyone who truly wishes to get on the proper path towards owning this swing.
I do have channel content pertaining to the wrists and the "release". Here are a couple of examples that may be related to what you are conveying:
- ruclips.net/video/SunCR5uJ_ao/видео.html
- ruclips.net/video/zw7Rzstq4gY/видео.html
Cheers!
Tom
@@SagutoGolf of course, I understand you are limited to time otherwise peoples interest might expire too early.
But that hand movement to me is very important and I had to mention it. I didn’t mean to tread on toes.
@Roger Miller - No "treading" felt on my end!! It's certainly a very important component; just not one that I could give appropriate time to without diluting the primary theme of this particular lesson.
TS
Love your explanations and demonstrations. I’ve been doing many things wrong for so long that it doesn’t always hold up on the course although at times there is improvement. I have one question that has nagged me for many years maybe you could address- what is the need for a back swing in golf ? You compare the golf swing to a baseball swing- there’s no back swing in baseball and the ball is moving all over at up to 100 mph. In golf we are trying to hit a stationary ball. My question is why can’t the golfer just start at the top of the back swing in the proper position and swing forward just as the baseball hitter does? This would seem to eliminate the part of the golf swing where many of my troubles begin- the back swing. Also since there is a stopping point in the back swing this seems to indicate there’s no need for it in the first place. Your thoughts would be appreciated-THANKS
Hi Gregory,
It's very difficult to hit a stationary object from a static position. For example, try hitting a nail into a piece of wood without first swinging the hammer back. In baseball we are reacting quickly to a moving object approaching at constantly varying pitch speeds and in different locations. It would be very difficult to time these planned inconsistencies with a backswing.
With regard to the golf swing, there's no reason you can't have a slight pause at the top to gather yourself and initiate the proper firing sequence of your downswing.
Thanks for your question. I'm glad you are enjoying my content!!
Tom
PS: By the way, here's a link to my FREE mini-course “The Top 3 Things You Need to Be a Great Ball Striker” in case you’re interested in learning about some key tenets of the swing system I teach in a more structured manner: go.saguto.golf/
Just curious, what are you using to analyze your shot, distance, ball flight, etc.?
HiThomas,
I'm using the FlightScope MEVO+ with the Pro Package, and I have it linked to my iPad to deliver the launch monitor data. If interested I’ve unlocked special discounts for SagutoGolfers who use this link (discounts below):
- Get Your MEVO for 15% OFF Using Code SAGUTOGOLF
- Get Your MEVO+ and Pro Package 10% OFF Using Code SGPRO
(FYI, Flightscope has been running a Fall Special recently. Some of that pricing may be temporarily lower and if so it these discounts will be automatically overridden to give you the best available price. However, if ordering please still use the referenced SagutoGolf link for their tracking purposes.)
Tom
@@SagutoGolf Thank you. I am very much enjoying your videos (as well as your passion for "crispy" strikes. :)
Thanks Thomas!!
Been looking at nets to practice....really like the one you use. Can you tell me where I can purchase one like yours... seems nice & sturdy. Thx
Hi Karol,
The net is a DIY job. It is approximately 7’ tall and 8’ wide. We used this video as a starting point - ruclips.net/video/-p11qs4E2T0/видео.html - and then made some other minor PVC support structure modifications to suit our needs. We did not use PVC cement as this allows us to easily disassemble it if necessary. The netting we used is 10' x 10' golf cage impact net purchased from Amazon, and it differs from the screening material in the video. (By the way, if using a net like we did you probably won’t need the screw hooks that are mentioned in the video - bungees should suffice.)
Also, I have a Real Feel 3x5 Country Club Elite® Golf Mat. You can visit them here - www.RealFeelGolfMats.com. If purchasing be sure to use coupon code "SAGUTOGOLF" (without the quotes and no spaces) at checkout to claim your special SagutoGolf discount on the Country Club Elite® series of mats.
I hope that helps!
Tom
I have recently found your videos and very much like the content. In this video you seem to be following the conventional instructors latest inspiration to shallow the club. How then, did you manage to get such fantastic results before you discovered this latest shallowing secret, or has it always been part of your swing but not highlighted?
I'm glad you are enjoying my content!
With regard to your question on "shallowing", this is why I do my best to convey multiple “feels” or thoughts throughout the swing wherever possible. We're all different physiologically and psychologically, and something that resonates effectively with one golfer may not necessarily work for another. However, no matter the variety of suggested feels/thoughts offered for a particular element of the swing, they are all directed at getting different golfers to achieve the desired positions, motions, and ball striking results. This is one reason why the comprehensive, structured, step-by-step learning platform of my online school is so effective, and why thousands of men and women from across the globe - including many seasoned, low-handicap, competitive players and spanning all age ranges from junior to super-senior - are now enjoying the best golf of their lives as a result (and I'm happy to let their unsolicited testimonials tell the story: saguto.golf/p/sagutogolfreviews ). The lessons and drills provide the guidelines and set the boundaries, while allowing ample leeway for each individual golfer to infuse and exercise their own uniqueness.
Thanks for your message!
Tom
PS: By the way, since my channel's content is connecting well with you, I think you will also like my FREE mini course - “The Top 3 Things You Need to Be a Great Ball Striker” - where you can learn some key aspects of the swing system I teach in a more structured manner. Here's a link in case you’re interested in checking it out: go.saguto.golf/
Tom- As an old ballplayer this move resonates with me like yesteryear. What I didn't see was the right elbow tucked to the hip. I'm sure these two moves are not mutually exclusive. Am I missing something here? Great stuff. Stay safe.-Russ
There's no conflict at all, Russ. It's perfectly fine and expected to have a few inches of separation between the trail elbow and the torso at the top, as long as the elbow does not fly out on us and regains its fully tucked orientation in the downswing.
As I routinely mention, I do my best to convey multiple “feels” or thoughts throughout the swing wherever possible. We're all different physiologically and psychologically, and something that resonates effectively with one golfer may not necessarily work for another. However, no matter the variety of suggested feels/thoughts offered for a particular element of the swing, they are all directed at getting different golfers to achieve the desired positions, motions, and ball striking results.
TS
You could always be Paul Rudd's golf stunt double !! What a perk .
Could I put a weight on my club to train instead of using the lag club? Nice video
I'm glad you enjoyed it!
The Lag Shot has a very flexible shaft that is designed to provide instant feedback when the path is off. It is more than simply a weighted clubhead.
Tom
@@SagutoGolf I think I will get one
Good video Tom. Also noticing how the baseball player's head doesn't move at all either, just like golf should be. As for me, lately I've been working on squeezing the elbows together at the top of down swing and only thinking about rolling the elbows/upper arms through impact. Seems to work well, especially with driver. Would you recommend that swing feeling?
Glad you enjoyed it, and yes - a steady head prevails in both sports! Aaron Judge offers a perfect example of this from the baseball perspective, and I'd say he's had himself a rather decent year....😎
Preventing the elbows from separating any further than the preestablished distance between them at address is a very important swing key for a properly shallowed downswing path and consistently crispy, powerful impact. If your feel is effective for accomplishing this and is producing the desired results, then I would simply suggest that you allow your ball striking and shot shape to be your guide.
Keep up the great work!!
Tom
Thanks Tom , been following you a few weeks now and been using your techniques …. Works brilliantly! … thanks man …. Crispy kfc !! 👍
That's awesome, Tris!! Thanks so much for sharing your improvement and keep it crispy!!
Tom
PS: If you've not already joined, have you considered enrolling in the online school and taking your learning - and your game - to the next level? That's where - in addition to detailed lessons and drills that take you through the entire swing step-by-step from setup to finish - you'll find diagnostic tools for identifying/resolving swing and ball flight issues when they arise, plus advanced level courses on shot shaping, power and distance, and much more So many folks across the globe - including many seasoned, low-handicap, competitive players - are now enjoying the best golf of their lives as a result. Here's a link if you would like to know more about the school - saguto.golf - and here's a link to my free mini-course “The Top 3 Things You Need to Be a Great Ball Striker” if you’re interested in checking it out: go.saguto.golf/
Hey Tom, are you playing jumbo grips? Do you have an opinion or any previous videos on grip size?
Hi Mark,
I switched to JumboMax grips earlier this year. I personally love the feel as well as how they help to keep my hands quiet through the zone. They’re not necessarily for everyone - and my fingers are a bit longer than average - so I routinely tell folks to "try before you buy."
Tom
@@SagutoGolf thanks Tom. Currently using midsize grips. I was thinking of regripping one club with jumbo before going all in. I wear an xxl glove when I can find it so it’ll probably work.
I agree that's the best way to go about testing the Jumbos, Mark.
Hi Tom
Great video, I recommend your channel to all my friends, keep up the good work.
I've watched all your video including the member ones but I am still not able to break the 150 yds with my 7 iron even with my top ball speed of 115mph.
Do you think I am hitting too high with little compression?
I'm glad you enjoyed it, Chris, and I appreciate your support!!
If you are compressing the ball then you will sense it in the strike. It's a pure feeling and the ball will take off like a rocket with seemingly little effort. Swing speed and efficiency of the strike - i.e.: smash factor - will translate directly to ball speed and distance.
By the way, there's an entire section of my online school dedicated to resolving common swing, contact, and ball flight issues. Have you looked into it? That's where - among many other courses and lessons covering various aspects of the game - you will find very detailed instruction and drills that take you through the entire swing step-by-step from setup to finish. So many folks across the globe are now enjoying the best golf of their lives as a result. Here's a link if you would like to know more about the school - saguto.golf - and here's a link to my free mini-course “The Top 3 Things You Need to Be a Great Ball Striker” if you’re interested in checking it out: go.saguto.golf/
TS
@@SagutoGolf Thanks Tom!
You won't believe we dont even have creamy mash potato at KFC UK, just plain boring old fries.
Anyway, I know it wont be long until you reach 500,000 RUclips subscribers. Keep up the good work!
I didn't know that, Chris. How disappointing to not have the buttery mashed potatoes option......
Thanks for your support!!
I've been a Saputo-golfer for a few years now (from back when you were rocking the 'Elvis' look), but it wasn't until this video that I noticed you using a ten-finger grip. Have you always used that grip, or was it just for this baseball-related video? I like a ten-finger grip; it's what I learned with. I only abandoned it when I became a 'real' golfer.
Hi Sean,
I'm using a ten-finger grip on the baseball bat but not on the golf club! It may be a bit of an illusion, however, resulting from the extra-large JumboMax grips on my clubs.
Thanks for your ongoing support!!
Tom
The trail elbow returning to the side of the body is a large part of the shallowing. IMO One can really see it in the baseball swing.
The trail leg bending down also.....which is part of the lead hip clear.
Indeed it is, and you may also see it well in this video featuring Mr. Hogan's "Magic Elbow": ruclips.net/video/iL9WmQ7KsmE/видео.html
Cheers!
TS
May I ask about your golf grips? Are they oversized? If so, what is the reasoning? Thank you in advance.
Hi Clifton,
I’m using JumboMax grips. I personally love the feel as well as how they help to keep my hands quiet through the zone. They’re not necessarily for everyone - and my fingers are a bit longer than average - so I routinely tell folks to "try before you buy."
Cheers!
Tom
What size jumbo max grips do you use on your irons, Jeff? Is that the “small” size Jumbo Max?
Hi Jason,
I'm not sure who "Jeff" is 😎, but I’m using JumboMax Ultralite grips in extra-large. I wanted to give them a try for a few reasons, including the fact that DeChambeau uses them and we share similar swing philosophies. These grips keep my hands much quieter - which I personally prefer. Also, since my fingers don't wrap all the way around and dig into my palms, I'm not triggering any forearm tension or activating arms muscles that may otherwise have a tendency to take control of the swing.
The Jumbos are not necessarily for everyone - and my fingers are a bit longer than average - so I routinely tell folks to "try before you buy." However, having a properly sized grip that feels both comfortable and secure is critically important as it is our only connection to the object that is going to deliver us blissful joy or deep anguish, yet it is perhaps also the most overlooked equipment fitting component in golf.
Tom
@@SagutoGolf Tom, I feel like an idiot because I KNOW your name’s Tom (I watch your channel constantly), and the only reason I wrote “Jeff” is because it was on my mind from reading another comment on one of your videos where a guy called you “Jeff” and you responded with an identical response to what you just you wrote to me 😂 I must’ve subconsciously typed the wrong name, and can’t believe my pig-headedness!? 😅😅 My sincerest apologies!
With that being said, thank you for your response! I have the XL Ultralite on my driver, but didn’t know anyone else using that sized grip so I felt out of place and thought maybe they were too large because it? I gripped my other driver with the “small” Ultralite and liked that it felt more similar to a baseball bat grip (like you, I grew up playing baseball). However, I do miss the feeling of the XL! I was pleasantly surprised to watch one of your videos and notice that you were using the same brand grips as me, but couldn’t tell which size they were from the video (hence the reason I wrote this comment). I’m so stoked to know that you & I are in the same boat, and that I’m not the only one! I 100% agree that the larger grips feel great in the hand (I’m 6’4” with XL hands)! My question to you know is that with the XL grips being as large as they are, do you have trouble fitting a full set of XL-gripped irons in your golf bag? I had trouble even getting my one driver to fit comfortably in my bag, and that was just one club?
P.S.- I absolutely love your channel and love the way your tips are conveyed in how things should “feel” and thus, easy to replicate in my own swing! You’re awesome, my dude! Thanks, Tom!
What size grip is on that club you are using? And are all your clubs fitted with that size grip?
I’m using JumboMax grips on all my clubs. I personally love the feel as well as how they help to keep my hands quiet through the zone. They’re not necessarily for everyone - and my fingers are a bit longer than average - so I routinely tell folks to "try before you buy."
TS
Hi Tom. When I watched that baseball player I noticed his right arm at the top was almost horizontal. I think in golf they call that a flying elbow. I assume that helps him get power? Something I also noticed watching you swing was that your club head stays outside your swing plane in the follow through. I think my club head comes inside, could that be why I hook? Thanks.
We must recognize that although there are similarities - and the shallowing move demonstrated here is certainly an important one - there are also some definite differences between the baseball and golf swing motions that should not cross over to the other.
A club head that is too much inside could be indicative of a hook swing. There's an entire section of my online school dedicated to resolving common swing, contact, and ball flight issues. Have you looked into it? That's where - among many other courses and lessons covering various aspects of the game - you will find very detailed instruction and drills that take you through the entire swing step-by-step from setup to finish. So many folks across the globe are now enjoying the best golf of their lives as a result. Here's a link if you would like to know more about the school - saguto.golf - and here's a link to my free mini-course “The Top 3 Things You Need to Be a Great Ball Striker” if you’re interested in checking it out: go.saguto.golf/
Cheers!
Tom
I think one thing I noticed was how much hip turn you have. I think that must help in allowing you to shallow. I feel newbies often swing over the top because they don't get their hips out of the way and there is no place for their arms to go.
Actually, my hip turn is being governed by the lateral movement. One major issue that amateurs routinely struggle with is too much hip turn occurring prematurely in the downswing. The technical term is "disassociation", meaning that the lower body moves laterally towards the target while the upper body - and therefore your swing center - remain in place. That's the formula for preventing the hips from spinning out early and routing the club steeply across the ball. Here's a lesson video on this topic: ruclips.net/video/dB4ItR3guGU/видео.html
So yes - hip turn is an important component, but it must be kept at bay until the proper moment. The lateral action of the lower body accomplishes this for us.
TS
Loving my baby draw with my new Saguto swing. ⛳🏌🏾
Awesome!! Keep up the great work and enjoy that crispy ball flight, John!!
Thanks for sharing your success!!
Tom
I went to the range last night after not having played or practiced in several weeks. Lo and behold, someone had left a KFC cup on my tee! (I'm not making this up.) I took that as a good omen. Unfortunately, I had not yet watched this video, but just working on straight arms Gorilla glued to my side, with a steady head and weight forward, I hit mostly crispy shots. Can't wait to take this out to the course!
It was definitely a sign, Frank, and I hope you left it there for the next person after dieting on your portion of crispiness..... 😎
Keep up the great work and have fun out there!!
Tom
PS: By the way, here's a link to my FREE mini-course “The Top 3 Things You Need to Be a Great Ball Striker” in case you’re interested in learning about some key tenets of the swing system I teach in a more structured manner: go.saguto.golf/
Right elbow is key. Think tucked and shallow happens naturally.
Yes indeed. That's the exact topic of this recent episode: ruclips.net/video/ukwnUkpWxHM/видео.html
This lesson on the "magic elbow" has helped countless golfers across the globe to overcome a myriad of issues and experience great ball striking!
TS
like the old whippy tempo master!
Yes, Chris, but with the added capability of being able to actually hit balls and get instant feedback from the contact and ball flight!!
Tom
The way I finally understood 'shallowing the club' was to feel that I have 'low hands' coming into the back of the ball via the downswing. At least, I think it amounts to the same thing.
We all need to work out our own swing "feels", Stefan. That's how we go about taking ownership of our swing. The ease of recording video in today's world allows us to then confirm that a particular feel is producing the desired effect.
Let your ball striking and shot shape be your guide!
Tom
What club are you. Using
That was a 7 iron, Jerome.
Does the downswing change at all if you already have a shallow backswing?
You don't need to You don't need to "drop it in the slot" if it's already there, Jeff. That's the theme of this lesson from my channel's archives: ruclips.net/video/0IxI_qmaF_A/видео.html
With regard to the shallowness of your backswing, the swing is a tilted circle (or arc, if we wish to get technical), the circumference of which extends from the ball to above and behind our shoulders. As such, if we are going to remain on that circle/arc it requires the hands and club to take a slightly inward path - not a disconnected snatch or roll to the inside - just a natural tracing of the outer rim or circumference. Here are some lessons related to this:
- ruclips.net/video/1gzcyrJ_yBw/видео.html
- ruclips.net/video/WxDD63quyk8/видео.html
- ruclips.net/video/ylVWSenTtOw/видео.html
We create depth in this swing, and that enables us to harness the power of swinging on a circle through a seemingly effortless force known as angular momentum.
Here's a link to my FREE mini-course “The Top 3 Things You Need to Be a Great Ball Striker” in case you’re interested in learning some key aspects of the swing system I teach in a more structured manner: go.saguto.golf/
Tom
@@SagutoGolf Thanks Tom for responding back. I appreciate it and I will check out these videos and your mini course. I recently found your channel and I’m loving it so far.
Great lesson!! What will it cost to fly you out and give my son lessons?
Glad you enjoyed it, JJ!!
I have phased out in-person instruction so I can further dedicate my efforts in support of the online school. I will, however, continue the V1 Swing Video Analysis lessons as they are instrumental to the progress of my school's members, and these can be done for anyone from anywhere across the globe, school member or not. This enables me to put my eyes on a player's swing and offer some very specific observations and corrective action plans if applicable. The process involves downloading the free V1 app and then submitting two videos to me through the app - one down-the-line (captured from your stance line, not the target line) and the other face-on. You'll find more information about the V1 Analysis halfway down this page on the Saguto.Golf site: saguto.golf/p/sagutogolf
And here's a link if you and your son would like to know more about the school: saguto.golf
Tom
I live in Sumter, SC, how do I get in touch with you for a lesson?
Hi Bernard,
I have phased out in-person instruction so I can further dedicate my efforts in support of the online school. I will, however, continue the V1 Swing Video Analysis lessons as they are instrumental to the progress of my school's members, and these can be done for anyone from anywhere across the globe, school member or not. This enables me to put my eyes on your swing and offer some very specific observations and corrective action plans if applicable. The process involves downloading the free V1 app and then submitting two videos to me through the app - one down-the-line (captured from your stance line, not the target line) and the other face-on. You'll find more information about the V1 Analysis halfway down this page on the Saguto.Golf site: saguto.golf/p/sagutogolf
And here's a link if you are not already enrolled in the school and would like to know more about it: saguto.golf
Thanks!
Tom
How do i avoid feeling like im going to shank it if the button of my club is first going towards the ball? What is causing the shank?
Your shanks can be the result of a variety of actions: 1) You may be too steep on the downswing and thereby exposing the hosel to the ball; 2) Conversely, your downswing path may be too in to out; 3) You may be rolling the face open or snatching the club inside with the hands in the takeaway; 4) Your wrists may not be hinging properly (which is often the case when a golfer tries to manufacture or force the hinge rather than just allowing it to happen); 5) You are setting up with the ball positioned at the heel of the club; 6) You are losing your pre-established relationship with the ball (i.e.: a deficiency in the Tilt component); 7) More... What I'm getting at is that there are a number of potential causes, and without actually seeing your swing it's impossible for me to identify the culprit behind those hosel rockets.
FYI, there are entire sections of my online school dedicated to resolving common swing, contact, and ball flight issues. Have you looked into it? That's where - among many other courses and lessons covering various aspects of the game - you will find very detailed instruction and drills that take you through the entire swing step-by-step, position-by-position from setup to finish. Thousands of folks across the globe are now enjoying the best golf of their lives as a result, and I'm happy to let their unsolicited testimonials tell the story: saguto.golf/p/sagutogolfreviews.
Beyond that, the Precision Impact that I’ve demonstrated in various lesson videos including this one - ruclips.net/video/hVxTSCNRroo/видео.html - is an excellent training aid that will help you to neutralize the cause and overcome this issue. I highly recommend it. If interested you can get your Precision Impact Trainer here - pureswingproducts.com/SagutoGolf In fact, they are running an extra-special offer for SagutoGolfers right now! For a limited time use code SAGUTOGOLF at checkout for $40 OFF and Free Shipping.
Tom Saguto, PGA
@SagutoGolf Tom, appreciate your very detailed response. FYI, I recently started implementing the elbow more pinned to body move and have been hitting the ball so much more consistently and have dropped an average of 10 strokes to my game. Feel like I'm moving into that next level of my game and trying to get under and be consistently under 90 now!
Hey Tom, i went over to litchfield today hoping you worked here and looking for lessons. I guess you do everything virtually now? I would love to do a package of some sort with my father but the cyber stuff doesn't seem to really work for me. Im
Bummed
@jbarry80,
I have phased out in-person instruction so I can further dedicate my efforts in support of the online school. I will, however, continue the V1 Swing Video Analysis lessons as they are instrumental to the progress of my school's members, and these can be done for anyone from anywhere across the globe, school member or not. This enables me to put my eyes on your swing and offer some very specific observations and corrective action plan if applicable. And although these are "virtual", they are highly effective as a supplemental resource for the structured, comprehensive, sequential learning platform of the school. The process involves downloading the free V1 app and then submitting two videos to me through the app - one down-the-line (captured from your stance line, not the target line) and the other face-on. You'll find more information about the V1 Analysis halfway down this page on the Saguto.Golf site: saguto.golf/p/sagutogolf
And here's a link if you are not already enrolled in the school and would like to know more about it: saguto.golf At $99 you can get an entire year's membership for less than what you would have previously paid for just a half-hour of in-person instruction. As an enrolled member you'll enjoy:
- Unlimited access to comprehensive members-only systems for the full swing.
- Short game courses: Chipping, Pitching, Bunker play, Putting.
- Simplified, succinct, step-by-step lessons and drills designed to put you on an accelerated path towards learning everything in a well-organized, self-guided fashion.
- Detailed troubleshooting diagnostic videos and fixes for a variety of common swing issues.
- Power & Distance course.
- Shot-Shaping Grid course.
- Ball Flight Fixes course.
- Indoor Training Program.
- The quick-start “Get Out and Go Play” program.
- A Members' Forum where you can ask specific swing-related questions, interact with others in the SagutoGolf community, and suggest new content ideas.
- Access to all exclusive paid RUclips channel members-only content at no additional charge.
- Discounted rate on my V1 Swing Video Analysis service.
- Ongoing additions of new professional instruction content.
- More!
I hope you'll give the school some thought!
Tom
I've always found it difficult to get the same feel with the golf club than a bat, as a former baseball player, I'm curious on your thoughts whether it helps get that feeling with the fatter grips..I noticed you're using a big grip. The hand alignment is different with a bat than a club.
There are similarities but also some definite differences between the two motions, Chris. However, that shallowing component - the one emphasized in this lesson - is one that we former baseball players can understand and recreate without too much difficulty.
I’m using JumboMax grips. I personally love the feel as well as how they help to keep my hands quiet through the zone. They’re not necessarily for everyone - and my fingers are a bit longer than average - so I routinely tell folks to "try before you buy."
TS
I wonder why that reflex to hit over the top is so strong. It seems inherent with everyone who takes up the game. I’ve been able to control it, but it does take discipline.
It's typically related to the well-ingrained instinct to "hit at" the ball rather than swing through it, and you are correct - it takes considerable work and discipline for most folks to overcome it.
Keep up the great work!!
Tom
Your other video said your shoulders start the down swing ,???
Hi Brenda,
When properly deployed in sequence our hips play a role in preserving our downswing path and they can certainly provide a power boost. When prematurely rotated, all bets are off. For example, the lateral targetward action of the hips acts as a governor on the rotational component, thereby enabling the player to keep their upper torso square and their swing center intact without having to fight their body. It's also a move that you will notice with every great ball striker. (Cue up a face-on video of any Tour player, put your finger, mouse pointer, or some other reference tool on their lead hip at address, and then observe the extent to which the hips move laterally past your pointer in the downswing while - and this is key - the head and thus the swing center remains in place.) This will occur naturally if we allow it to, but unfortunately the misguided "fire the hips" notion has plagued so many amateurs with an early-onset spinout that makes them steep and across the line, or they get stuck, early extend, flip, etc. For them, the "feel" of the shoulders leading will help in overcoming this, correctly engaging their hips and fixing their path, thereby leading them to a solid, "crispy" impact condition.
In general terms, I do my best to convey multiple “feels” or thoughts throughout the swing wherever possible. We're all different physiologically and psychologically, and something that resonates effectively with one golfer may not necessarily work for another. As such, it is important to understand that the lessons on this channel - while fully aligned with the swing method I teach - address a variety of topics, issues, feels, and/or common flaws/fixes from one episode to the next. They are certainly not intended to be taken as a comprehensive, step-by-step, position-by-position learning platform like the structured curriculum of my online school, which I strongly recommend to anyone who truly wishes to get on the proper path towards owning this swing as it will make for a far more efficient and enjoyable learning process rather than haphazardly trying to piece things together through my RUclips content. The lessons and drills provide the guidelines and set the boundaries, while allowing ample leeway for each individual golfer to infuse and exercise their own uniqueness. Thousands of men and women from across the globe - including many accomplished, low-handicap, competitive players and spanning all age ranges from junior to super-senior - are now enjoying the best golf of their lives as a result of the school, and their unsolicited testimonials tell the story quite well: saguto.golf/p/sagutogolfreviews.
Would you like to learn some key aspects of the body-friendly, powerful, low-maintenance swing system I teach in a more structured manner? If so, then here is a link to my recently updated FREE mini course “The Top 3 Keys You Need to Be a Great Ball Striker”: go.saguto.golf/ Featuring 17 videos and 45 minutes of detailed lesson and drill content, this is a great way to gain a fundamental understanding of this system as well as an introduction to the formal instruction method that is delivering the referenced results.
Thanks,
Tom Saguto, PGA
Just tried this, my feeling was that the logo of my glove wipes across the inside of the ball (my side of the ball) it squares the face ridiculously cant wait to hit the course with this feeling
That's a good feel, Craig. I hope it translates into a steady diet of crispy shots for you!!
Tom
@@SagutoGolf works great until driver though 😫
@@SagutoGolf I followed this technique you teach for about a year now and everything was good but the driver went off the boil. I was weight in lead foot left hip towards target and able to hook it if needed but now slices!! Would be good to have a suggestion of one of your videos best for getting back to those big draws
Oftentimes when golfers are hitting everything well except for the driver it can be attributed to one of the following:
1) They don't start with - or maintain - enough weight on the front side. In general with the longer clubs we should add a little more front weight load at address - more like 60/40 instead of the 55/45 prescribed for the other clubs. This forward weight should gradually increase to the top of the backswing (70/30) and build further on the downswing - approximately 80/20 halfway down, 90/10 impact, and 95/5 finish.
2) Their hips are not continuing their lateral slide through impact. This is common with the longer clubs as the wider stance means that the hips have a greater distance to travel. If the hips stop moving laterally towards the target on the downswing then their rotation takes over, changing the low point and rerouting the club. This can produce a variety of undesirable results including fat and thin contact, topped shots and popups, straight pulls, and “banana” slices. Here's a channel video on this topic: ruclips.net/video/dB4ItR3guGU/видео.html
3) They are not allowing the length of the club to dictate the backswing path and are getting too steep as a result. Have a look at this lesson video: ruclips.net/video/o0xscMyN3v8/видео.html The shaft length of the longer clubs encourages more of an around the body backswing as established by the shaft plane at address. It may "feel" flat as you take it back along the shaft plane for the first few feet, but as long as you maintain the "weight forward, shoulder down, and hands in" components while allowing the club to work around you, it should put you in the proper position at the top so you can attack the ball from the inside.
It’s essentially the same swing with every club; just some minor setup differences and naturally occurring shaft plane changes as we graduate up in club length from short irons to woods. In fact, here is a video of Stack and Tilt co-founder Mike Bennett hitting the driver: ruclips.net/video/7fmtzyH3rsA/видео.html. It looks very similar to his iron swing, right?: ruclips.net/video/SLjwU_1Cc7o/видео.html If you search the word "drive" on this channel you'll see some related content. Upon learning this swing properly you will be harnessing the tremendous power source known as "angular momentum". This is the reason my students and online school members of all age ranges end up bombing it farther than they ever had previously.
Speaking of which, if you'd really like to own this swing through your entire bag please consider enrolling in my online school as so many folks across the globe are now playing the best golf of their lives as a result. The school's intuitive curriculum greatly simplifies the entire process through succinct, step-by-step videos, plus there’s so much additional guided instruction courses and content on the many other aspects of the game. Here's a link if you'd like additional info: saguto.golf. I hope to see you there.
TS
@@SagutoGolf thanks for your time to reply I’ll put this to good use. And look toward your online school when home life chills a little
What if you are too shallow “picker” with basically a 0 +-1 with a club path 5-8 in to out
If it's problematic in terms of impact quality and curvature, then there's an entire section of my online school dedicated to resolving common swing, contact, and ball flight issues. ( saguto.golf ) Otherwise, if you are satisfied on both accounts then I suggest that you simply let your ball striking and shot shape be your guide.
TS
I've been taking too much loft off the driver it's driving me crazy good strikes that don't sniff the top and the trees guess a 14° driver is the future
Sounds like a professional driver fitting session might be something for you to consider, Chad. It could be the shaft and not the driver head. In this regard you might find this episode documenting my fitting session to be eye-opening (I know it was for me!): ruclips.net/video/xp2c-oYQRVI/видео.html
TS
Thank you so much tom for teaching me this video. I really appreciate it and you’re one of the best golf instructors that I’ve ever had I’ve been mashing the ball crispy, KFC mashed potatoes. I really hope you can make a video of how to hit long irons and Woods. Thank you so much
Hello again, Donaven.
I believe I answered a similar question from you earlier. As mentioned in that response, it’s essentially the same swing with every club; just some minor setup differences and naturally occurring shaft plane changes as we graduate up in club length from short irons to woods. If you search the word "drive" on this channel you'll see some content related to the driver.
Cheers!
Tom
Ok thank you so much
My pleasure!
Doesn't shallowing the club move the swing plane?
The majority of amateur golfers get steep at the transition or early in the downswing, Sheldon, and as such they must fight that shot-killing tendency by emphasizing a shallowing "feel" in order to ultimately match the backswing plane (as discussed in this video: ruclips.net/video/0IxI_qmaF_A/видео.html )
Tom
@@SagutoGolf thanks, the video you linked is exactly the video that I am working on emulating. So this makes sense. I enjoy all your instruction .
@Sheldon Muninger - Awesome! I'm glad that linked video resonated well with you!
TS !
JL!!
(Glad you enjoyed it!!)
Love ya stuff but I think it’s better to hav the cub an timing in front if ya body
Not quite sure what that means, Matthew. This swing system is not built on timing, which is why it produces such consistent results.
Cheers!
Tom
As hips open right shoulder drops down and under in downswing.
Yes, as long as the hip rotation is properly governed by the simultaneous lateral targetward hip action as demonstrated in this lesson: ruclips.net/video/I5XYgKopTb4/видео.html
TS
Stack and tilt helped me a lot when I couldn’t break 100 but then severely stagnated my golf game and now I’m suffering
Have you actually been properly instructed in the system, or are you working off of a book and/or random videos? I ask this because most golfers who learn the S&T system properly stay with it for life as it produces consistently great results for them in a most sustainable, body-friendly manner.
With regard to my YT content, it is important to understand that the videos, lessons, and drills on this free channel - while fully aligned with the swing method I teach - address a variety of topics, issues, feels, and/or common flaws/fixes from one episode to the next. They are certainly not intended to be taken as a comprehensive, sequential learning platform like the structured curriculum of my online school, which I strongly recommend to anyone who truly wishes to get on the proper path towards owning this swing. So many folks across the globe are now enjoying the best golf of their lives as a result. Here's a link if you would like to learn more about the school - saguto.golf - and here's a link to my free mini-course “The Top 3 Things You Need to Be a Great Ball Striker” if you’re interested in checking it out: go.saguto.golf/
Cheers!
Tom
@@SagutoGolf it really did help me from shooting over 100 to breaking 90. But at this point the reverse pivot for sure is hurting. Has to be a reason not many pros do it. I like your videos on the right elbow though!
@Rudra Patel - Actually, if one were to ask how many PGA Tour major championship winners TILTED, TURNED, and EXTENDED in the golf swing, the answer would be all of them! Stack and Tilt is a golf swing system based on data from the game’s best golf ball strikers. For this reason, someone can be embracing key Stack and Tilt elements without being aware of it. This is because there are basic requirements that must be met to hit a golf ball consistently on the center of the clubface. There are also components necessary to add power to the golf swing without sacrificing accuracy. Stack and Tilt determined, based on a study of the best golfers of all time, that they all had 3 things in common (the 3 main golf fundamentals): 1. Hit the ground in the same spot every time (consistently crispy contact) 2. Have enough power to play the golf course well (distance) 3. Be able to have a predictable curve (accuracy). A player MUST be able to do these three non-negotiables in order to truly be good at golf, and Stack and Tilt provides a road map for accomplishing them incredibly well in a low-maintenance and body-friendly manner. As far as Tour players using 100% of it, 99% of it, 97% of it, or 78% of it, it doesn't really matter because they're ALL doing it to some extent. Those 3 fundamentals never change!
I’m struggling in this rn
Have you checked out my FREE mini-course “The Top 3 Things You Need to Be a Great Ball Striker” yet? It is a great starting point for learning some key aspects of this swing system I teach in a more structured manner: go.saguto.golf/