2024 NEW HILUX 1st Drive of the Electric assisted SR5
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- Опубликовано: 26 апр 2024
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You are the most practical & honest 4x4 adventure tourer. No BS or fancy words just direct. Good on you. Greetings from an unusually sunny Auckland. Have a good ANZAC weekend mate. TC
Informative vid! Thanks Ronny!
We definitely need the heated seats in Aus! Maybe not in WA but where i live it regularly gets into the negatives.
fk no!
Loooove the heated seats in my Mustang when I lived in central Victoria during winter!
Down south WA gets plenty cold enough for heated seats
Only need heated seats in Vic, pussy state
Why not in Perth its fooking frezzing there most year.
Just another reason to keep your old 4x4
Don't be scared homie.
Lol!!!!!
If these things are still running around 25 years later like my 1kz Hilux after 400000km I’ll be very happy to get one
@@bovolino0149 Already quite a few 2015-2017 hiluxs past 400k now
i was worried about new hilux has battery electric things inside more sensitive
I absolutely agree the new trucks have more tech than my BMW. I would definitely keep the older off road vehicles less is more. Cheers from So Cal Ronny!!😊😊😊
Toyota has really dominated the hybrid market for the last 2 decades. It’s progressive to see that extending to their entry level off-road models.
Well done Ronny. I’ve been waiting for someone to have a look at the new Hilux. None of the big guys like Carexpert, drive et al have not put anything out but you know what the public want.
They may have not received one from the manufacturer yet, I have noticed recently that it has been taking longer for larger reviewing companies to get hold of a vehicle outside of controlled marketing days.
It’s kind of like manufacturers don’t want to give media long periods of free range with their vehicles anymore, I wonder if they have cut their advertising budgets to some of these companies meaning they don’t have as much control over the review 🤷♂️
You only need to look at the new Mitsubishi Triton as a recent example, CarExpert has only recently released its review of it even though it’s been available to market for a little while now and the review definitely wasn’t afraid to pick on it at all.
IMO the new Triton deserves the not so great review especially after all the media coverage about how Mitsubishi spent a lot of time in Australia learning the market audience so they can deliver a quality product and it seems they decided to stop 80% of the way in each aspect of the vehicle they delivered.
The vast majority of the sane public do not want electric cars.
@@robmotown1 no they don’t and this ain’t one. The public wants a Hilux
IMO the 48V mild-hybrid are there to keep the emission/fuel consumption numbers down, so they can keep selling these cars for years to come.
Dual systems to have dual problems would put me off BUT the Prius is now more than 20 years old so yeah, I'm sold.
Well obviously
Heated seats are an absolute godsend when doing water sports in winter.
And back pain. I did my back last year and the heated seats in my caprice were a godsend
😂
Clearly the wrong kind of water sports then 😂
@@willm687totally agree here as I said in my comment. An 8000km trip in winter around QLD and the heated seats were essential for keeping the back pain away and letting you emerge after 500km min driving every day for 14 days, fresh and relaxed.
I think that's a cooling seat for hot weather countries
Great review as always Ronny. I love the heated seats in my SR5+ though! Not a fan at all of the start stop system, or the multi terrain select.
Great review. People forget Toyota have been doing hybrid stuff for over 10 years now. The hilux will do perfectly fine. Another thing. Really good to see Toyota have an auto stop start button most companies will hide and bury the function into the system. Might have to make the upgrade now.
They've been doing mild hybrids like this for 30 years, it'll save lots of fuel around town, no brainer really.
It's not just a decade. It's been more than 20 years or more if we go with the very first Prius.
30 years now. Toyota hybrid systems are some of the most reliable engines in the world world.
you dont NEED heated seats in Perth, but they defo are nice to have for that week of cold weather we get.
looks great .... for mum to take the kids to soccer on Saturday
Toyota have been making cars using mild hybrid systems since about 2000 so they have history and experience with the technology. Definitely interested to see how this goes once they've been on the road for a while.
This is a completely different system to anything they have been using in the past but yes Toyota has a wealth of experience in the hybrid world even if this system is completely different to what they currently use.
Good review. Keen to see if we are still getting the facelift upgrade next year 🤞🏻
Not sure if people are aware but you can still order a hilux without 48v, only in the sr model though, there are two models of sr, one with steel wheels, vinyl flooring and no 48v and the other has alloy wheels, carpet and 48v.
I just picked up my steel wheel sr and absolutely love it.
Side note: the non 48v lux only comes in white as it’s more of a fleet option
Thx Ronnie. Just put an order in for the Rogue, as you say the world is moving towards hybrids, and I think this mild hybrid is the less painful way to go. The interior changes are much better, and I’m glad to see someone comment on the drive train/engine on and off road.
Just picked up my 24v rogue loving it you won't be disappointed.
Well done mate, great review
Awesome review. I've been waiting for my Rouge for a while now. Looking forward to going camping .
this looks really nice, a bit of a mix of the 2018 and 2023 grill wise
I recently hired a plug in hybrid wrangler during a trip to the USA. You can purchase a power bank adapter which plugs into the charger terminal and you can use it for camping power. However, I don't think they will bringing out the hybrid wrangler in oz anytime soon.
And in Australia you don't need heated seats? Come on Ronny we don't all live in WA. It's usually -3 to 3 degrees in the outer skirts of Sydney and that's not nowhere near as cold as it gets in other parts.
-3 haha boo hoo
@@HerbalTee29 huh
@@je2338 -3 ain’t cold bro
@@HerbalTee29 -3 is pretty cold. It's definitely cold enough to turn on heated seats. An hour drive from Sydney I've camped in -7. Ronny said heated seats are useless in Australia, but they definitely aren't. I'm not crying over -3. I was just in America where it was -14, but honestly I feel no difference between -7 and -14 it's still cold. I'm assuming if it was -3 you'd turn on your heater big boy.
@@HerbalTee29 is ice cold? Place ice on your tongue for a few minutes and get back to me
Well done on another honest review, heated seats just feel weird
Like to see a 2000km town and country fuel test, just to see if it’s not a lot of nothing.
Sales rep just told me today that basically 48v system saves 0.5l/100km and has better response. 0.5l adds up over which seems worth it.
Regardless in New Zealand it seems unless u want a manual, all autos are now 48v hybrids.
Plus stop start probably will be great in Auckland traffic. Will save a ton of fuel sitting at the lights and while also be in complete silence. Im sold imo.
I use my heated seats all winter and would always tick that box when buying a car. I live SW of Perth so it is colder. As for the fuel saving. As soon as the owner swaps the tyres for a set of bigger heavier all terrains the savings are more than gone.
I love how little space they put in the engine bays of these new cars
Nice looking vehicle in that color, would look even cleaner without the sideskirts
Whats the fuel consumption figures? I bought 2023 hilux sr tonsee if I can live with the 2.8/auto before buying another 70 (so far so good), im getting 9.1/100 thats a dual cab with a rural hd tray, hd dog cage, bar and full length side rails. Still running the std tyres. So id be keen to know what advantage the generator system has. Great reviews
I like the front end look
Good to see manufacturers improvising with technology as i dont see an EV option working for people who want to go off road and long distance touring
I am pretty sure just a straight up diesel engine works just fine
They will just stop you from touring all together come on man
Another great review, the instant torque by the generator is amazing, plus bit of fuel saving, can you please get hold of tank 500 and do a review
Excellent review Ronny.
I must say what was Toyota thinking, apart from a marketing point of view, in regards to that AC point with only 100 watts, which will be useless, because it’s only going to give a maximum output current of less than half an amp, 455mA. Also being inside the centre console will make it difficult to get to, when you have your stuff in it.
Stop/start button and heated seats are standard on my 2021 hilux in Europe
Nice video Ronny.
48v like a new prado, but hilux still have "normal" intercooler. 🤷♂️
Next gen update, it will come with N90
What are you guys talking about?
Any chance you doing a video on Navara Warrior review. That would be helpful as your reviews being more useful and instructive than other regular car reviews
I want manufacturers to offer either the ability to tap into the 48v system to use for camping or to do like Ford has done for the f150. Full hybrid that has a built in 7.2kw generator. Wouldn't need that much personally but a 4-5kw that could power the AC on my trailer would be phenomenal! Hopefully by the time I'm ready to buy a new rig in 5+ years.
How does the hybrid work exactly? Does it charge only on lifting off accelerator? Or is it sapping power in straight line if battery isn’t charged?
Awesome review. Good insight on what we can expect from the new 250 with the ‘hybrid’ system. Have to disagree though mate, heated seats definitely have a place in Australia in winter 🤩
May as well bring out a decent petrol motor option with all the diesel emissions rules
I do want one. I'm sure there is more issues with the more tech, but I'm not in the bush everyday either...
For all the reviews on RUclips, I trust Ronny's opinions more than most other's facts...
The new grill/bumper looks better than the old one.
Hilux and Prado are the king of the road
The term for vehicles like this is mild hybrid. Unlike a full hybeid it cant move the vehicle off from a stop without starting the engine, but it can chip in a bit with power and do regen breaking, unlike a stop start system.
On running loads at 12v, a perk of getting it via dc system is that you get full power at idle (or just in ready mode.) My rx400h can do more than 2kW.
did they put carpet in the sr or have they made the sr5 look like a pov pack?
I believe that just like the facelift 79, Toyota didn’t give anyone access so ARB and others have yet to design a bull bar to suit
Hoping this gennie thingy is using the same serpentine belt as the other accessories, and guessing it assists the crank, with torque fill and stop/start. Not a bad idea, Toymota.
How did you golf the rear seats up?
Will happily keep my ‘22 Hilux Rogue.
Does the Atrac goes off when we switch on rear locker as previous models?
Can't have both running at the same time, with a rear locker.
360 cameras , well I hope Toyota has improved the clarity of the image. Our Prado 21 VX model has cameras and it’s clarity is very soft. Even Chinese systems are way clearer.
Thanks for the review. With the way that manufacturers are going towards PHEV and Hybrid's its a shame they don't incorporate ways of connecting to these massive battery systems for camping in the ever expanding overlanding segment of the market.
The only ones I know of who do this are Jeep with the AUX switch system as an option. So no need for relays or anything as you can plug directly into 1 of 5 of the connections (4 switched, 1 accessories).
Happy to keep driving my 2008 SR Hilux with 390,000kms 🤓
Keep up the injector replacements and it should go 500 plus
Agreed my 08 SR5 with 220 000km is worth 5k more now than what I paid for it 6 years ago😂
Hi Ronnie what is the price difference mate, and does it justify assuming it costs more?
I have the 2022 SR5+ (so has the leather and heated seats). Mine doesn't have the 360 degree cam but 2023 model did. Differences to me are:
* Qi Charger (that would be handy)
* Phone slot (why bother when you have a Qi charger)
* MTS (you loose a cup holder in this and phone holder space though)
* Blacked out exterior (meh, looks nicer but no function)
* Tail gate gas struts (I added tail gate and bonnet gas struts though)
* 48V system obviously
Very disappointed they didn't upgrade the entertainment unit. I hate it. So buggy.
Is the power Gen on it's own belt❓ Premature belt wear🤔
Hi bud, is that with just stock standard suspension?
Ive got the new hilux arriving later this month
This “NEW” Hilux looks good… for 5-7 years ago, sure and is great Ute, No word about it. But holy hell I wish we got some of them other models that the Americans have!! Like how good for the 4Runner be in Australia! 😁
The market gets what the market wants. The vast majority are brain dead, hence why Toyota's sell very well in Australia.
@@jarrod1687 who do you think makes the 4runner?
Hi Ronny,
I m getting my hilux in a couple of days .The vehicle sold here in india is regular 4x4 AT high .
Is there a way Toyota could modify this unit similar to the one you review on this video once this unit becomes available here?
It’s interesting as the new Prado uses the new 48volt system with the 2.8lt diesel so I would assume it will be the same as the Hilux, more responsive and not more power which I think will be a good thing. Tossing up whether to wait for a new Prado Altitude or get the Lexus GX550. Would love to see you compare the 2 in the future. Would be a massive vid. 😀👍👍☝️
Do we know if this 48v system an add on? I looks like it could be a plug and play.
It would be awesome to tap into the 48V for running a 48V winch
Or a 48v inverter
Will it affect GVM and weight ican carry?
Interesting the battery charges under brakes, like regenerative braking in electric cars. I wonder how this would affect trailer sway and electric braking systems? And how long before someone puts a regen braking system in a caravan?
Not under braking, it's basically stronger engine braking, so probably won't notice it towing.
In the event of a battery problem how do you jump start it or use it ta jump start another vehicle with no 12 volts direct off battery.
Seems like a lot of effort for little gain. While I imagine it's very cost effective for Toyota Australia to have the same engine in every off road and commercial vehicle, it's not something that I would buy, I believe I'll be keeping my V6 Hilux forever at this rate.
Pure diesel is the way to go...
That's the scope of the video? I could have read the brochure.
with the extra weight it needs to carry, does it make it more fuel efficient?
yes,
come on, that’s been tested for multiple years already.
How heavy do you think a small lithium battery is lol.
The battery under the rear seat was about the size of a football, that wont weight much at all
Im spewing my new rogue 48volt dosent come with that front grill and back black bumper instead i got grey still love it to bits though
Means it traffic Situation engine is off but aircondition still running?
My 2017 has enough factory fitted electronic stuff I don't reckon I want any more.
The manual too has that system?
the 48v system is just one more thing to go wrong, and if its driving the main aux belt then it could snap it, think how much extra tension is required on the belt. also for us colder countries that location is where the “heat up” pump goes, so presume that is going to be binned off in favour of this. also no water to air cooler? glad I have a 2023 hilux :) 😅
Does anyone know the kerb weight and GCM of the 48v models? Toyota have left that info off their spec sheet.
carsales have twin cab tubs at 2200kg, twin cab cab chassis with no tray at 2000kg.
claimed numbers and real world is always different tho,
still light if an amarok/ranger in around 2400kg and a grenadier is 2800kg
carry around 1000kg, if towing a heavy trailer/caravan with a towball weight of 300kg then the ute payload drops to 700kg, roughly
minus the weight of 2 adults and two kids, 250kg, the payload becomes 450kg
I wonder how much the 48v system will cost to replace, and how will it handle mud
My guess is they'll do something similar as they do with their hybrid systems and have a 7 year warranty. As for cost, well everything powertrain wise from Toyota is expensive haha.
As for mud, most hilux drivers won't be flogging these things from new through big bog holes would be my assumption
48v has long been adapted by german cars
half the price of the original price.
But no alternator, starter to replace
@@user-vz2lv2hr7g mild hybrid 48v isnt new tech. Its been applied since 10 years ago in audi or Mercedes systems. So why now we screams about 48v hybrid mild like its a new tech unproven
Looks like lots more stuff to break, how will you fix it out in the wops?
I was curious if this sr5 has full disc brakes like the rogue?
Will there still be manual options in these new models?
Yes, however the 48V system isn't available for any of the manual models
Ta...good news!
Nice review. Say the 48V system failed in the middle of a remote location, would the Engine still start??
You can say the same about a 12 V system.
@@user-vx7vi3vq1c I think I read somewhere, that if the 48V motor/generator fails, a good old classic starter will take over to start the Engine and get you home safely. But not sure about that.
yeah it has a normal 12V battery and starter motor as well as the 48V system
There’s still so much potential in hybrid systems. Reminder that a 2018 hybrid hypercar is a minute faster around the Nurburgring than a 2024 ev hypercar…
Stop start button is standard on my 2021 hilux in Europe
Why is it called a 2.8 d4d? Is it an Australian version? Thought the D4d was only available in the old hilux with the new models being gd6's.
Good to know how much a new battery would cost and whether warranty applies to it?
My 60 is a 24v model and I have to say, a 24v winch, air compressor, spotties are great. They draw half the amps a 12v system does. If the automotive industry move toward 48v we wont have to run stupidly thick cables for high current and voltage loss. If we look at locomotive applications, the diesel is used as a generator to power DC traction motors and power systems. I was wondering how and when this technology would end up in automotive applications, I was curious if semis would ever end up going the way of diesel loco power trains but it's probably too expensive and over complicated. In the Hilux, it's just used for what looks like easing the load on the engine to drive ancilleries and mechanical power is still all diesel.
Good review. Looking for a review from new generation triton.
Have Toyota fixed the DAC control? It was woeful on our 120 Prado and just as bad on our 2015 model.
The 360 camera, Parking Sensors have been standard on SR5 for a while, its not new to the 24 model.
My sr5 48v doesn’t have the 360 cam I think it’s only if you have a tub
It started in 2023.
@@joshuaschubert6276 only if you have the tub tho?
@@liamleporati3320 From what I heard only the tub models which is weird considering the tray version comes with a backup camera. I think.
My 2023 sr5 came with 360 cameras. Rear cross traffic alert including sos button.
@@joshuaschubert6276 yeah that’s what I was thinking I have the tray and have the rear camera as well.
Good to see some of features have been improved by toyota.
Thanks Ronny - hate chrome so love the chrome deletes and gorgeous indigo blue duco - Hilux/Landcruiser are the industry benchmark - Ford are crap but the new Triton is promising.
Fuel consumption?
ground clearance and suplicity should be the focus.
Why on earth would ground clearance be a focus?
Gee Ronnie, are you trying to take on Carsales, any trips lined up?
Personally I think it’s time for Toyota to offer more customisation in their hybrid systems.
Users have different needs. Some want small battery, some could use a bigger battery, etc. It is possible within a reasonable range.
For some people, even a slow charging PHEV would make sense. For sure it would make for me.
Great engine and drive train, beyond that the Hilux is just disapointing.
how much more efficient is it on 4x4 routes?
48v hybrid, 2000s interior, offroad capability better than nothing. Can’t wait to upgrade!
It’s the Toyota way
When is the new Triton video coming out man! Been waiting for months. But oh well just ordered the GLX model couple days ago, guess I test it for myself
Looks like it still has a large 12v battery, why? Does it still have a traditional starter motor?
Yes it does.
@@gregorytrowland4377 seems redundant if the 48v motor / generator can and does start the engine.
@@steveallen1340 The car will only start using the 48v starter/generator to start in ideal conditions - dependent on engine oil temp, 12v load, a/c load, 48v battery charge
How come the hilux has the D4D badge instead of GD6 on the door?