This reminds me of an anime called air gear. It's set in a world where there are gangs of people who ride and do tricks with high powered electric roller blades
Using an angle grinder or even a file would be enough to shape some metal into that square, and make something that offers a durable connection between plastic arm and motor hub. It's not about what tools you can afford, it's about how creative you can be with the tools you have available. Just as a side note, having a CNC machine does not solve your problems like magic. It opens up a new box full of new problems that need solving too (tool path generation, feeds, speeds, noise, different tools and there use cases, workpiece clamping, ....)
That was awesome! Printing that square shaft separately would help with not breaking due to layer adhesion if you orient it 90 degrees so the layers are along the shaft and not perpendicular! Or just use a metal square shaft! :)
The rear mount for the motors should have a pivoting motor braket with shock or something to keep even pressure on the motor brakets so you can lean forward keeping motors on ground in any position and this will help giving flexibility.
If you did this again do it with inline aggressive skates because they have a fat soul plate, you wouldn't have to have all this framework just make a U bracket bolted through the soul plate and it would look a lot cleaner, Maybe even bore out an actual rubber skate wheel and have the outrunner inside that then you don't have a square edged wheel meaning you actually keep the flow of skates instead of being on ''rails'' because of the sq wheels also wouldn't sound so plasticky. Even still wicked concept! Edit; just finished the vid already said about the wheels so scratch that.
I wonder how fast he'd be going if he was driving with the orange mounts while wearing an orange jacket and being pulled by the orange car. Light speed, we're coming!
if you're really keen on having those mounts 3d printed then just split your design and have that mount printed flat on the printer, glue them all afterwards, the layer lines would be much stronger as you're no longer relying on the layer on layer adhesion to resist the torque
You may want to get new wheels for the hub motors if you are planning to revise this project. I recommend to get offroad/street wheels or something like cloudwheels because it will give you more surface area for when turning, while also making it alot easier to turn as opposed to the flat standard PU sleeves, al while providing better grip as you said.
Going back and forth actually decreases your range because stopping and starting is really hard on the batteries. Getting back up to speed is what kills most of your power
I don't know about new controllers, but first one did recuperation. actualy, the fact of brakes means there is recuperation still. (Tom Stanton measured 40% uphill just out of downhill)
Nice video))) the experience of using 3D printed mounts in this video showed that for the next projects you need a small cnc milling machine to make such parts from aluminum)) You can assemble a cheap cnc router using the MPCNC Primo as an example, its rigidity is enough for milling aluminum, which is ideal for your purposes ))
Love this. Seriously impressed by the integrity of your prints, even though one spindle failed. Incredible it didn't shatter like glass in the winter when you did the ice skate version. Did you consider putting the motors in front? If so, why'd you choose the back. Seems like leaning forward to go forward might be more natural and/or safer. Would allow for keeping a brake on the back too - just in case...
In the United States there is a place called Send Cut Send where you can send them a CAD model and they'll CNC the part and mail it to you. I'm sure something like that exists in Europe too. It's like the JLCPCB of CNC.
@@tomconway6808 thats so expensive unless you do em in bulk, prob better off collabing with an other youtuber with a cnc, theres quite a few edit: actually stuff made here got his cnc for free from a sponsor deal, could be possible here too
That is a very clever solution. Hub motors are the way to go it's just a pity no one makes them fit standard inline skate wheels. I had to give up inline skating as I'm getting too old and don't have the power to skate on the streets as I once did.
although it might seem dangerous, i think you could fashion a waterproof leg strap bag to replace the backpack to store the electronics and batteries, might keep center of gravity lower down too for better balance
Imagine seeing him ride this in the distance popping over the top of a field of grass. Just an upright man sliding forward at an unusually high speed. Beautiful.
Was just thinking about the motorball scenes in Battle Angel Alita the other day and thinking "why haven't electric skates become more of a thing?!" After watching this, CLEARLY, they could be. Great fun to see this come together for you.
@@hawk7825 Europe has many different communities, where this principle is not fully applied. If you say northern Europe, it's closer and I would say it's Sweden ... somewhere in countryside, not far from Goteborg, on the local road between Sjuntorp and Velanda
Man, I need a 3D printer or a CNC machine, It just looks like so much fun to be had. You, rock man, keep building and save up for a CNC machine. Start a GoFundme or something, I think you would be able to sell the stuff you make too if it were CNC cut.
Fantastiskt!! Ett par Powerslides eller liknande hade ju varit kanon för detta konceptet. Då behöver du inte oroa dig för underlaget. Tack för väldigt underhållande videos.
i went through my experimental/diy/poor phase in my 20's. things rarely every worked long term and ended up cost much more than expected. I now appreciate the R&D cost that goes into products. its entertaining now that these concepts can be paid for with you tube.
Was making basically these and selling them some years ago. Some models I made had the battery under the foot with a bigger wheel in the front and a motor in the back. Also you really don't need motors on both feet, one is plenty and more stable on hard accelerations.
So funny. We built this in Mechanical Engineer school in 2000 as well. We called it the Sk8Aid. I still have the scars from it! It was exactly the same idea.
wow, I like the idea 😍 would be cool to have the battery mounted on the rollerblade, not in the backpack, and have something like "assistant mode", so it could help on slopes, but you will still have option to ride as usual.
I think this is great! As a hockey player and trick skater in my teens, the natural motion of skates are to switch to inner and outer edges of the wheels. Like ice skates. I feel the least stable when riding the center, so this big ass flat wheel in the back seems wrong. I think there was another comment that scooter wheels might be better, so you can get the edge motion going on, and it would feel more natural and assist on long rides or commutes. Very interesting, would love to see this perfected
*@RCLifeOn* If you can put the motor on the front wheel, then it shouldn't be as possible to fall over from accelerating, because when you start to tip backwards, the motor is lifted off the ground & you stop accelerating. (and with generative breaking, that would mean the motors get even more traction against ground when breaking). And you can still break with the back of the rollerblades.
If you could attach a coil spring bucket high up or midway up the heel of the roller blade so the drive wheel is getting pushed into the ground to a certain degree. Might reduce slipping or peeling out thus increasing efficiency.
You are amazing, love your ideas. Your dry humor is Adorable..keep up ur amazing lifestyle keep creating. Thank you for making my day.and making me LAUGH 😅🤣..BLESS YOU☺
If you spin the motor while attatching the battery, there might be a reversed electricity produced by motor and cause tiny shortage to the motor controller or ESC which ruin the whole thing. It's like when you stopped the motor from spinning and the power just leak out of ESC's and run to ground of battery but it will charge the battery while you're ESC is burning down. You need a full bridge rectifier circuit and save you're ESC with 4 diode(or diote i forgot(and sorry for my bad english)).
Very brave project, friend. I wonder if they would feel less crashy if you put the drive wheel in the front. It would apply the rotational force in a way that would increase traction for the other wheels rather than reduce it.
Hey brother you might be able to cut the axles off of one of your old skateboards and adapt that as a mechanism for locking your motors from spinning but still use 3-D printing and to stop cracks you might think about putting some sort of spring-loaded suspension so that when you hit something hard the entire mechanism can flex a little bit
I suggest looking into powerslide inline skates since they have offroad tires on sale. Try exploring the bigger wheel option like 125 mm wheel set up with Metal Quality Frames
The first thought that I had was Air Gear? like as in the anime Airgear where they ride around on motorized rollerblades. I wonder if you've seen it or heard of it.
You are awesome for making this video. I'm still wearing my traditional braces too until 9/2021. Good luck with the iterations in the future if you do any.
Would be nice to have some plug ins for the cords at the boot. That way you can put the backpack on with the cables hanging out and then just plug them in
late to the party, but one thing you could try, other than adding a second motor to balance the load for traction, would be to have the rear-mounted motor on a swivel, with a spring (or spring/damper, if you wanna be fancy) pre-loading the motor into the ground. It wouldn't help with offroading, but would ensure the motor has good contact with the ground, even when your rollerblades aren't in good, even contact with a perfectly flat surface
Sounds like a mentality stressful projects. But I fucked up 3 esc when building my e-longboard and felt like a complete moron, so great to see that I am not the only stupid person :D Love your vids
You should round out the wheels like an egg with the center flatend so you can use the edge of the skates more. I love this v9d and engineering. I just fixed my electric skateboard soldered replaced motors e s c and put metal supports in a wooden board where the board cracked.
nice to see airgear finally getting a live action adaptation.
the only thing is that it was easy it suppose to be hard...
Baterai need more smaller
These a-t's are no joke lmao
Air Gear is almost a reality
Need some school girls too
This reminds me of an anime called air gear. It's set in a world where there are gangs of people who ride and do tricks with high powered electric roller blades
see you in reddit
Okay I've actually watched it. Surprisingly good anime. And I don't watch anime I just like rollerblading lol.
a few more years and it's here boys
Sounds awesome.... Not
Little Jackalo Watch it before you knock it.
This poor guy needs a cnc machine
The quality of this guys stuff will increase instantly when he finally does get one.
Just saying the Shariff DMC looks really cool and reasonably priced for CNC.
@@stonedapegaming7745 Hopefully they will be stocked again soon.
Using an angle grinder or even a file would be enough to shape some metal into that square, and make something that offers a durable connection between plastic arm and motor hub. It's not about what tools you can afford, it's about how creative you can be with the tools you have available.
Just as a side note, having a CNC machine does not solve your problems like magic. It opens up a new box full of new problems that need solving too (tool path generation, feeds, speeds, noise, different tools and there use cases, workpiece clamping, ....)
do you have a cheap one? i think cnc´s are very expensive (30.000dollars)
I love that "All I had to do was 3-D print" is a normal sentence now
That was awesome! Printing that square shaft separately would help with not breaking due to layer adhesion if you orient it 90 degrees so the layers are along the shaft and not perpendicular! Or just use a metal square shaft! :)
Yup, that little cube is just begging to be sheared off.
A square aluminium rod would solve that weak point easily
@@MusicHunter111000 or just a deep shank carriage bolt
The rear mount for the motors should have a pivoting motor braket with shock or something to keep even pressure on the motor brakets so you can lean forward keeping motors on ground in any position and this will help giving flexibility.
Miniature coilover shocks!
Exactly! I actually saw someone draw artwork of electric skates with that exact mechanic. Makes sense!
@@ALivingFlame Afukuro, i think you are talking about his/her art
If you did this again do it with inline aggressive skates because they have a fat soul plate, you wouldn't have to have all this framework just make a U bracket bolted through the soul plate and it would look a lot cleaner, Maybe even bore out an actual rubber skate wheel and have the outrunner inside that then you don't have a square edged wheel meaning you actually keep the flow of skates instead of being on ''rails'' because of the sq wheels also wouldn't sound so plasticky. Even still wicked concept! Edit; just finished the vid already said about the wheels so scratch that.
they also have the UFS sistem and it will be a lot easyer to 3d print a hole new frame for it! he also needs to stop using flat wheels!
most important: electric motor and plastic = no
@@Blox117 absolute bs. almost everything nowadays with a electric motor is plastic or 3D printed
Sole
@@carpediemarts705 Soul?
“Pay close attention. This might be the video where I seriously hurt myself.” 😂
The commentary is a large part of why I love these videos so much.
7:01 This is something Simon says everytime "If it's orange it goes faster"
It's just really funny XD
Nice video :)
need stickers 2. peace
I wonder how fast he'd be going if he was driving with the orange mounts while wearing an orange jacket and being pulled by the orange car. Light speed, we're coming!
>Red makes it go faster
>orange is special red
>works for me
@@-NGC-6302- Red wunz go fasta.
if you're really keen on having those mounts 3d printed then just split your design and have that mount printed flat on the printer, glue them all afterwards, the layer lines would be much stronger as you're no longer relying on the layer on layer adhesion to resist the torque
That first test was scary, no helmet, no gloves & no knee pads, you are mental but very talented!
Electric roller skates has been a dream project of mine for years. Keep up the good work Simon!
You may want to get new wheels for the hub motors if you are planning to revise this project. I recommend to get offroad/street wheels or something like cloudwheels because it will give you more surface area for when turning, while also making it alot easier to turn as opposed to the flat standard PU sleeves, al while providing better grip as you said.
Going back and forth actually decreases your range because stopping and starting is really hard on the batteries. Getting back up to speed is what kills most of your power
I don't know about new controllers,
but first one did recuperation.
actualy, the fact of brakes means there is recuperation still.
(Tom Stanton measured 40% uphill just out of downhill)
ITS A GOOD REAL WORLD TEST. THESE AREN'T HIGHWAY MILES. THINK PLEASE.
That's an even better test. Most cases you'd be using this would be in the city where you'd be constantly slowing and braking.
Thanks! I can relive my mis-spent youth through your adventures. (You are way better at it than I ever was!)
Nice video))) the experience of using 3D printed mounts in this video showed that for the next projects you need a small cnc milling machine to make such parts from aluminum)) You can assemble a cheap cnc router using the MPCNC Primo as an example, its rigidity is enough for milling aluminum, which is ideal for your purposes ))
As a long time Inline Skater and Avid Ebiker, I Support This!!!!! Keep the innovations flowing brother.
I love that Simon just tries to bring to life all of those stupid ideas that we all had while being children :D
I think this is the best air gear setup I've seen yet. I really want to copy this.
Love this. Seriously impressed by the integrity of your prints, even though one spindle failed. Incredible it didn't shatter like glass in the winter when you did the ice skate version.
Did you consider putting the motors in front? If so, why'd you choose the back. Seems like leaning forward to go forward might be more natural and/or safer. Would allow for keeping a brake on the back too - just in case...
I felt your pain seeing how many controllers you had to go through to figure out the problem. Loved seeing your success as well. Keep it up!
Dude, love your accurate world map in the background! Great project!
Please, reach out to a company that sells metal CNC's. Maybe they'll give you one.
Great video as always.
In the United States there is a place called Send Cut Send where you can send them a CAD model and they'll CNC the part and mail it to you. I'm sure something like that exists in Europe too. It's like the JLCPCB of CNC.
He could just use the 3D-printed part as a form for a mold and then cast it in his garden. See here: ruclips.net/video/HVgPM1ojyLw/видео.html
@@Tiger-vt3cs That could also work. Does he have a forge?
@@tomconway6808 thats so expensive unless you do em in bulk, prob better off collabing with an other youtuber with a cnc, theres quite a few
edit: actually stuff made here got his cnc for free from a sponsor deal, could be possible here too
You can also contact Sorcotec CNC from Germany
you are the man I imagine when I think of volvo drivers. awesome project.
That is a very clever solution. Hub motors are the way to go it's just a pity no one makes them fit standard inline skate wheels. I had to give up inline skating as I'm getting too old and don't have the power to skate on the streets as I once did.
although it might seem dangerous, i think you could fashion a waterproof leg strap bag to replace the backpack to store the electronics and batteries, might keep center of gravity lower down too for better balance
Did you not see the size of those batteries?
All my jet grind radio dreams are coming closer to a reality!
This man gonna manifest Air Gear into reality all by himself
can't wait for ATs to become real
True lol
Sleeping Forest unite!
Imagine seeing him ride this in the distance popping over the top of a field of grass. Just an upright man sliding forward at an unusually high speed. Beautiful.
Was just thinking about the motorball scenes in Battle Angel Alita the other day and thinking "why haven't electric skates become more of a thing?!" After watching this, CLEARLY, they could be. Great fun to see this come together for you.
Dang, Simon must really trust the public with leaving his camera out there
It’s Europe, honest peoples.
@@hawk7825 Europe has many different communities, where this principle is not fully applied. If you say northern Europe, it's closer and I would say it's Sweden ... somewhere in countryside, not far from Goteborg, on the local road between Sjuntorp and Velanda
This GUY is GREAT HE should have his own show some where on tv or the would stage .BUT HE ALL READY IS ....WELL DONE SIR.. .
If you get square metal (sometimes called "key stock") you might be able so make it slip in for the motor mount
The whole mount needs to be metal...
@@SolarizeYourLife agreed. But if his main machine's are 3D printers, it might help at least
Man, I need a 3D printer or a CNC machine, It just looks like so much fun to be had. You, rock man, keep building and save up for a CNC machine. Start a GoFundme or something, I think you would be able to sell the stuff you make too if it were CNC cut.
Fantastic build! Definitely needs metal brackets, looks like a lot of fun though!
Fantastiskt!! Ett par Powerslides eller liknande hade ju varit kanon för detta konceptet.
Då behöver du inte oroa dig för underlaget. Tack för väldigt underhållande videos.
Love the idea for the next video man! That's how things should progress. All is good! Good luck to you. Can't wait!
Why not printing a "tire" interface for the hub motor? And making it round, like a motorbike tire, it would allow you to lean left and right!
Honestly I've wanted to do this for years, thx for making it so approachable!
Do You remember airGear?😯
i went through my experimental/diy/poor phase in my 20's. things rarely every worked long term and ended up cost much more than expected. I now appreciate the R&D cost that goes into products. its entertaining now that these concepts can be paid for with you tube.
Hoverboard wheels with their hub motors would rock for an offroad one ;-D
2:52 “starting to become my favorite printer”………I still haven’t even seen one of these things in the flesh yet?!
I subscribed because you showed your prose and failures. Also I love the editing. Good stuff!
Kinda like the blades from the anime 'Air Gear'.
As always, great vid!
Hell yeah all ways love the vids Simon
im 50 i now esk8. riding those in the rain deserves a sub!! Subbed
This has some serious Air Gear/ Jet Set Radio vibes!
Was making basically these and selling them some years ago. Some models I made had the battery under the foot with a bigger wheel in the front and a motor in the back. Also you really don't need motors on both feet, one is plenty and more stable on hard accelerations.
This is so awesome, a spring-assisted shock in the back could help with stress.
why need spring when you have... leg? yeah leg.
So funny. We built this in Mechanical Engineer school in 2000 as well. We called it the Sk8Aid. I still have the scars from it! It was exactly the same idea.
wow, I like the idea 😍
would be cool to have the battery mounted on the rollerblade, not in the backpack, and have something like "assistant mode", so it could help on slopes, but you will still have option to ride as usual.
Looking like a new avengers superhero. Nice vid!
Super keen to see those off road roller blades 👍
this guy is one eureka away from building air trecks, love it would buy it
*@RCLifeOn* 4:35 I really like that cool helmet you're using when testing new experimental tech... :/
I think this is great! As a hockey player and trick skater in my teens, the natural motion of skates are to switch to inner and outer edges of the wheels. Like ice skates. I feel the least stable when riding the center, so this big ass flat wheel in the back seems wrong.
I think there was another comment that scooter wheels might be better, so you can get the edge motion going on, and it would feel more natural and assist on long rides or commutes.
Very interesting, would love to see this perfected
You have created the skates from Air Gear!!!! AWESOME
*@RCLifeOn*
If you can put the motor on the front wheel, then it shouldn't be as possible to fall over from accelerating, because when you start to tip backwards, the motor is lifted off the ground & you stop accelerating. (and with generative breaking, that would mean the motors get even more traction against ground when breaking).
And you can still break with the back of the rollerblades.
Now they are orange so they 'll be faster. Awesome dude!
This is like that roller blade concept in Ready Player One. Good concept
I think you have something special and new for the PEV world 🙏🏼
If you could attach a coil spring bucket high up or midway up the heel of the roller blade so the drive wheel is getting pushed into the ground to a certain degree. Might reduce slipping or peeling out thus increasing efficiency.
You are amazing, love your ideas. Your dry humor is Adorable..keep up ur amazing lifestyle keep creating. Thank you for making my day.and making me LAUGH 😅🤣..BLESS YOU☺
If you spin the motor while attatching the battery, there might be a reversed electricity produced by motor and cause tiny shortage to the motor controller or ESC which ruin the whole thing. It's like when you stopped the motor from spinning and the power just leak out of ESC's and run to ground of battery but it will charge the battery while you're ESC is burning down. You need a full bridge rectifier circuit and save you're ESC with 4 diode(or diote i forgot(and sorry for my bad english)).
8:43 that momentary pause, of "dude, seriously?"
YOU ARE AWSOME BRO!!! 😀😀😀 LOVE YOUR PROJECTS DUDES, KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK MATE 😊😊😊 KIND REGARDS FROM N.Z.
I think these definitely need a more spherical tires for better handling as well.
Looks amazing thouugh.
Very brave project, friend. I wonder if they would feel less crashy if you put the drive wheel in the front. It would apply the rotational force in a way that would increase traction for the other wheels rather than reduce it.
Square shaft part in metal, bolt that hub to the printed part, that also means you can later replace the printed part with simple sheet metal.
Hey brother you might be able to cut the axles off of one of your old skateboards and adapt that as a mechanism for locking your motors from spinning but still use 3-D printing and to stop cracks you might think about putting some sort of spring-loaded suspension so that when you hit something hard the entire mechanism can flex a little bit
By far my favorite channel on youtube :-)
I suggest looking into powerslide inline skates since they have offroad tires on sale. Try exploring the bigger wheel option like 125 mm wheel set up with Metal Quality Frames
cool stuff, I'm looking forward to the next design
Hey I remember youuuuu!!
Yeah yeah the Ice Skates!!!
That's was awesome bruv!
Kudos man
Unintentionally funny guys are the best XD
The first thought that I had was Air Gear? like as in the anime Airgear where they ride around on motorized rollerblades. I wonder if you've seen it or heard of it.
Your editing is very good 👍👍👍😚
Pretty kool you can do all this from your home. Electric self propelled water ski's lol that would be pretty kool, or a wake board.
Brooo, we are going to need a parts list. I want to make one myself 🙌🏾
You are awesome for making this video. I'm still wearing my traditional braces too until 9/2021. Good luck with the iterations in the future if you do any.
Dude I hope you get bigger, Your videos have some of the best content
Your effort is recognized
Please put some of these on one of those rollerskate suits for downhill.
Thanks for creating this Air gears AT's is gonna be the future
Would be nice to have some plug ins for the cords at the boot. That way you can put the backpack on with the cables hanging out and then just plug them in
I can not believe you got that to work. I am so impressed. That is so fucking cool 😎
We did that once with a flexshaft drive and a big chainsaw motor. My friend the test pilot went to the hospital after he crashed. Extreme speed wobble
late to the party, but one thing you could try, other than adding a second motor to balance the load for traction, would be to have the rear-mounted motor on a swivel, with a spring (or spring/damper, if you wanna be fancy) pre-loading the motor into the ground.
It wouldn't help with offroading, but would ensure the motor has good contact with the ground, even when your rollerblades aren't in good, even contact with a perfectly flat surface
Sounds like a mentality stressful projects. But I fucked up 3 esc when building my e-longboard and felt like a complete moron, so great to see that I am not the only stupid person :D
Love your vids
Awesome video, if you had put Air Gear soundtranck on the background it'd have been amazing keep up the good work
Rollerblading on wet ground is rough. You are brave.
watching this video reminds of the anime "air gear" maybe this is the new era of roller blades
Try adding suspension to the back of skates to allow you to safely go over bumps and at the same time give you some soon to bend foot or ankle
8:42 geez that guy looked like he was millimeters away from smoking you.
1% inspiration, 99% perspiration. - Thomas Edison. Great work, my friend!
Cant wait to see the offroad version👌 Nice job
You should round out the wheels like an egg with the center flatend so you can use the edge of the skates more. I love this v9d and engineering. I just fixed my electric skateboard soldered replaced motors e s c and put metal supports in a wooden board where the board cracked.
Does anyone remember that old anime air gear. The whole plot was literally this. I can't Wait to see how much he can develop this
You read my mind
I like the idea of off road tires 👍❣️