Ranking the New Spells in Tasha's Cauldron Of Everything
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0:00 - Opening
0:40 - Intro
1:43 - Ranking System
2:51 - Cantrips
4:05 - Mind Sliver
6:22 - Tasha’s Caustic Brew
8:39 - Summoning Spells
11:50 - Tasha’s Mind Whip
15:05 - Intellect Fortress
17:26 - Spirit Shroud
19:44 - Tasha’s Otherworldly Guise
22:37 - Dream Of The Blue Veil
23:27 - Blade Of Disaster
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Mind Sliver on its own is incredible at breaking concentration. Because the damage triggers a Constitution Saving throw on the target concentrating, they immediately are penalized by that 1d4 in order to maintain the concentration.
Oh I didn’t think of that. Okay this spell is incredibly good.
True, but also in a decent amount of campaigns, from my experience, enemy casters tend to be disproportionately wizards, or at the very least, intelligent. Meaning the likelihood of getting off Mind Spike on an enemy caster isn't quite as likely as it would be on most other things.
@@briargray2355 eh I've seen plenty of sorcerers and bards running around personally, but even against a wizard, it's still a cantrip so while you're spending your action to try it, you aren't using any other resources to make an attempt at breaking the concentration
@@briargray2355 I put like 7 hexblades in the last 3 sessions of my game since they were part of a cult.
would this stack with bane? i would rule NO but i don't know how the rules as written are for stacking modifiers on something like that.
I would be interested in "Ranking the New Magic Items in Tasha's Cauldron of Everything"
Pretty sure the demonicon would top it
Same! I'm betting the pestle and spoon ranks high since it has many uses
I would be interested in a video titled "Tasha's Cauldron of Everything is a piece of shit that will inevitably split the 5e player base over what should be considered RaW with all the changes it makes - and also is pointless to buy as Jeremy Crawford's twitter account will contradict everything inside it by the end of the year."
Or maybe something saying the same thing in fewer words.
The Cauldron magic item is a bit messy. Both the Druid and Warlock can attune to the item, but only the Druid can use it as a spellcasting focus.
If they don't rate the Mighty Servant of Leuk-O "ROCKET PUNCH! out of 10", I'm going to be mildly disappointed.
Monty "Don't waste your 9th level slot on damage" Martin and Kelly "Most things are better than Witch Bolt" McLaughlin
What's that, monty boy? Can't hear you over the sound of four giant fuckoff meteors hitting the bbeg's armies and fortifications.
Wait nevermind, that spell literally only does damage, it's basically the god version of fireball, but he puts it in a different category from blade of disaster which also does only damage. I mean, i don't disagree mecessarily, meteor swarm is fucking ridiculous (in a good way), but it doesn't really mention anything about destroying buildings. Maybe i'm just stupid for not thinking that buildings have hp too.
@@bonogiamboni4830 Buildings do have hp, most everything has hp. There's rules for working it out in one of the books, I just can't remember which one (and don't care enough to find it).
@@asherandai1000 just checked, it's in the dmg. I'd say that's fair.
I feel like one of the big use cases of blade of disaster was glossed over, it doesn't care what environment you're in. Casting meteor swarm in an enclosed space or when you're engaged in a large scale battle with both sides mixed up is ussually a bad idea.
Sometimes you don't have room to become a dragon, if the enemy is a late game boss you want to cast a 9th levek spell at power word kill might not be usefull until they've fished out all they're damage already.
In those cases where you still just want damage out of your ninth level spell blade of disaster will shine, with the added bonus of effectively not being able to his from it.
I demand merch with a close-up on Kelly's face, impact font that says "Most Things are Better than Witchbolt"
YYYYYYEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!
Omg yess I'll take 2. 1 for me and one for my DM
Can I get it on a pair of boxers instead. A kind of foreshadowing for any future lady encounters? :D
I even like witch bolt and id wear the crap out of anything theyd make of this
True Strike. True strike is not better than witch bolt.
In conclusion: if the spell has the word "mind" in it - it's a must have
A good thing to keep in mind.
Indeed, food for thought.
Mind spike.
Don't mind that conclusion
That was a brainwave
Quick note: Otherworldly Guise is for WEAPON attacks, not only melee. So the High Elf Wizard can fly about using a longbow using INT as their attack/damage modifier.
Used this to boost ac, works well. Also had more movement than normal. Used it with misty step to get out of a fight with a roc
Yea the fact that you can use it to fly and boost your ranged attacks actually makes it really strong in situations where those are advantageous. I would still call it niche because you need a build for it, but it's the upper end of niche.
I have a Storm Sorcerer I'm playing in a campaign. He's only level 4 right now, but once he has access to 6th level spells, I think I want to try taking this. If I use metamagic for a quickened spell, then I can get two attacks AND a leveled spell! Plus, after casting a leveled spell Storm Sorcerers gain 10ft of flight with no chance fot Attacks of Opportunity. So I can fly in, wail on the target, cast a quickened spell for my bonus action, and fly out of melee range!
So I’m curious. I’m playing a Protector Aasimar divine soul sorcerer/watchers paladin and I was wondering if I can use this spell in tandem with the Aasimar’s wings and the divine soul sorcerer wings?
@@zach415 I don't think any of those abilities stack with each other. Typically if an overlapping ability can stack it will say something to the effect of, "If you already have a fly speed, your fly speed increases by 30 feet." Abilities that grant darkvision commonly say this, for example. None of the abilities you mention have such a clause, which means you would use whichever one gives the best bonus if more than one was active at the same time.
Intellect Fortress
Dungeon Dudes: Giving the middle finger to Mind Flayers
Baldur's Gate 3 players: Can I learn this power?
How to make Totem Warrior Barbarians completely resistant to bs. (and Mind Flayers)
@@darkusalpha5995 And that's the thing. They undervalued this spell by calling it Niche. Specially since they just got done saying that they loved that Tasha's came with a new small grouping of spells that work off intelligence saves and Psychic damage. Not just giving another resistance to the Bear Totem Barbarian or giving advantage to likely all of it's worst saves for a better chance of succeeding but Considering this spell is now a partial counter to those very kinds of spells and even the powers of several of the new subclasses that do psychic damage as part of their effects with certain concessions made to it such as being higher level than Tasha's Mind Whip for the same upcasting function and so affects fewer people at one time but also at the benefit that it lasts a lot longer so it can potentially protect from a lot more uses of the lower level spells. Making it Concentration almost becomes a requirement at that point to be able to overcome it with any consistency for anybody that can't actually try to dispel it.
The only thing niche about it is the question of how often your going to be facing effectively psychic monsters or rival humanoids but that is really true for a lot of good spells that are slightly specific to certain enemy types such as things affecting undead or powers most useful in something like the underdark. One groups Niche is going to be another Groups Must Have.
Lots of stuff in TCE one can hope gets added to BG3. Can't get it all so I'll order things by priority My first priority (and also the easiest content to implent) is reassigning racial ability scores. My second priority is the Psionic Warrior. If we can respec her int, then Lae'zel needs this subclass.
@@oOPPHOo The racial score reassignment are sadly changes that might never happen in a video game. Even if other aspects of the book are implemented. Psionic Warrior would depend on just how far they are planning to take the subclass system so you might ask the dev's if you get the chance.
Well, Intellect fortress also gives advantage on wisdom and charisma save.
Its also good against some charisma monster, charisma save being nearly only SAVE THIS OR DIE scenario... Like Demilich trap soul.
Its niche. But what a good niche. Typically a spell only wizard should take. And 4th level spell are kinda meh and not as usefull as lv3 or lv5 spell so its a good addition anyway
Edit : its a 3rd level spell when you HAVE to take haste, fly, counterspell, dispel magic and fireball. Welp
I died at "Most things are better then witch bolt"
It is so true though.
"No! I don't want to cast Mordenkainen's Sword with a 9th level spell slot!" was good too.
Yeah, I died a second time there 😂🤣
Depends on what your definition of useful is. You would have to build into the character a bit, but the right set of feats and class abilities could do a serious bit of damage since it is a ranged attack spell. Assassinate does work so in the right circumstances with a lvl 20 build in a party with someone with haste, and having action surge oneself, you can use your 3 highest level spell slots if you manage to stealth in correctly and just completely ignore the concentration affects by recasting 3 separate times. With the Assassinate ability that is a 8d12+8d12+7d12+7d12+7d12+7d12=x lightning damage which doesn't rely on a saving throw
@@DarkAbyss-em5ly true! but then again, at level 20, people generally have better options right?
Does anyonr know if there's a good, balanced, homebrew viersion of witch bolt?
One small correction, RAW Mind Sliver won't affect grapple attempts. Mind Sliver affects saving throws, and grapple or shove attempts are ability checks.
Another "small" correction: it doesn't work with quickened spell. For a sorcerer to use Quickened spell they need to have the action still available to turn it into a bonus action. If you cast mind sliver, you have already used up your action.
@@dadadajasper wouldn’t quicken spell allow you to cast this and then another spell though? I think only ritual type spells with minute+ casting times are excluded
“Casting a quickened spell is a swift action. You can perform another action, even casting another spell, in the same round as you cast a quickened spell. A spell whose casting time is more than 1 full-round action cannot be quickened.”
@@dadadajasper I'm pretty sure that's not true
@@fleetfoxification It's actually "A spell cast with a bonus action is especially swift. You must use a bonus action on your turn to cast the spell, provided that you haven't already taken a bonus action this turn. You can't cast another spell during the same turn, except for a cantrip with a casting time of 1 action." So it's extremely clear that you cannot in fact cast a spell with your bonus action and cast a leveled spell with your action.
No idea what @dadadajasper was talking about though. There's no need to have your action available to use Quickened spell.
Edit: I realise I missed that Jo Simon was referring to Mind Sliver specifically, which would work.
@@dadadajasper You use Quickened Spell to cast Mind Sliver as bonus action, then you use your action to cast something different
"There are 9 summoning spells in this book, and they are all-" better than witch bolt?
They totally are.
I'm told most things are lmao
the nice thing about the new summoning spells is also that when you lose concentration on the spell the creatures dispear. so unlike conjure elemental there is no risk of them turning on your on party
I was about to comment this, makes summoning spells much less of a double edged sword for non conjuration wizards, and non sorcerers with high con and warcaster
Furthermore their casting time is an action, so they can be used in combat more fluently than most other summoning spells.
Love that fact. Too many of the summoning spells have that little downside. This way people can play the summoner they always wanted to play without fear of killing their teammates.
More importantly, the statblock is right there in the spell, so they're not colossal pains in the ass to actually use.
I don't understand people's gripe with Summon Greater Demon. It's rare that the demon will even be able to make its charisma save before it's dead and even if it does break free, it should already be next to the enemies so it would just keep attacking them. My wizard purposely drops concentration on it when it is below half health because it will still stick around for 1d6 rounds and keep attacking shit and soak damage for NO concentration.
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*MOST THINGS ARE BETTER THAN WITCH BOLT*
lol i thought the exact same thing
I want this in a t-shirt.
Also, if it just had a better range, it wouldn't be so garbage.
Most things are better than witchbolt
So change it.. duh. Like blade Ward and true strike, just give them a range of 30, now they're useful.
@@thembill8246 ehh, still would
@@thembill8246 cover exists and allies and enemies...
Just to clarify. You made a reference to the change to Booming Blade and Green-flame Blade to a Range of "Self", and how it interacts with feats. It's been clarified now that the concerns over the change interacting with War Caster was unfounded. There's a sage advice video where JC clarifies that a spell's "target" is in the description, and not affected by the "range" of the spell. Hence, Booming Blade still works just fine with War Caster. Also, he clarifies that the language of Green-flame Blade makes the jumping damage of that spell optional, meaning a caster can choose not to activate it, and still have it work with War Caster as well.
Can you still hit a target at 10' with a reach weapon?
@@kelb76 Correct, it no longer works with Spell Sniper or Distant Spell for reach weapons, as well as no longer working with Twinned Spell. However, it still works with War Caster
@@cfoscoopEqually a pole-arm master cant use a reach weapon to attack an enemy that enters their reach eg. Booming Blade cant trigger at the 10ft mark, then they move in the last 5ft and take that extra booming blade damage. They still can however choose to take that pole-arm master reaction once they are in 5ft.
i have no idea why they needed the range of 5 foot in the first place just give it the range of a melee attack and done stops the bows and all other range weapons and can still use pole arms
Tasha’s Caustic Brew + Transmute spell (Fire) = I love the smell of napalm in the morning!
This Spell is literally a sleeper for Sorcerers. And upcasting it for TWO MORE dice is still insanely valuable.
Imagine casting this at third level and the enemy fails. That's 6d4 Acid (Or a different element when you use Transmute Metamagic which is STRONG). Enemies can either give you turns of free damage which cumulatively is a major win and benefits from Empowered Metamagic. Or they can waste their action removing the effect saving your party a turn of pain.
I love it.
Edit: Spelling lol
Yeah I agree. At 3rd level that’s 6d4, which is an average of 6 • 2,5 = 15 damage, of a type that’s not commonly resisted. A Lightning Bolt spell deals 8d6 damage, an average of 8 • 3,5 = 28 damage, of a type that’s pretty common.
It would take 2 turns to do the same damage as a lightning bolt, and has the possibility of making the enemy waste actions removing it.
What lightning bolt does have on caustic brew however is it’s longer ranger, and half damage on a successful saving throw. So overall I would say that this is a pretty good spell.
@@noobhero7 And now I'm thinking of Caustic Brew on a Scribes Wizard. One that can freely alter the damage type of their spell *per casting* as long as they have a spell of the same level as the one you're casting. So, if the Scribes Wiz has something like Spirit Shroud as well and you cast Caustic Brew at 3rd level: Suddenly you could have 6d4 *Radiant* damage at the start of each of the affected targets turns. Or Necrotic. There's some nice utility with Transmuted Spell or the Scribes innate switching there.
hear me out. put spirit shroud in a ring of spell storing and give it to your monk...
🥳👏
Thanks i hate it.
My sun soul monk married a death cleric recently, with him being protector Aasimar and having a sunsword (since Tasha gave us some awesome optional features) I think he is the reason our dm hasn't thrown many undead or vampires at us :P
God forbid the person that cast spirit shroud into the ring is a cleric and also casts holy weapon on the monk too.
*Extra points if the monk took 1 level in hexblade warlock for hexblade's curse for an extra 4 or so damage per punch*
Spirit Shroud: doesn't need to make a melee attack to use. Eldritch Blast within 10ft is viable and devastating.
Yep, my Warlock just did a massive ton of damage with this combo. I think it was 35 or more damage per bolt on those rolls? It was devastating.
I'd say it's definitely a bomb once you hit level 9 and get 5th level slots with the warlock. Before that you're getting two additional points of damage per Attack on average (d8s vs d6s for Hex, assuming you hit with both of your Eldritch Blasts) and I don't think that this is worth having to work around the range limitation and the melee threat that comes with it... in this case I'd rather use the old faithful, aka Hex.
@@greyskies9 Ah right, forgot they nerfed it. I was stil using the UA version that was +1d8 per level.
Still it starts at 2d8 which is average of 9 to Hex's average of 3.5, which is a big improvement I feel
@@Chaosmancer7 I believe in RAW at 5th level - when you can first pick up Spirit Shroud - you'd get two E-Blasts with 2d8 each, compared to two E-Blasts with 1d8+1d6 for Hex each, right?
While at 9th level you'd still have two E-Blasts with 1d8+1d6, but you'd get 3d8 with Spirit Shroud 'cause its damage jumps to 2d8 when cast at 5th level.
So imho at 9th level the damage output outweighs the disadvantages... up until 8th level personally I'd rather go with Hex.
@@greyskies9 Oops, I don't know if that was another change or me just being dumb, but the damage does start at 1d8. My bad.
Mind Whip can shut down the potential for an enemy Counterspelling someone elses "big" spell as well as preventing annoying things like enemy's casting Shield, Absorb Elements and Feather Fall.
Oh yeah mind whip is anti caster gold
I honestly really like the blade of disaster, it provides something that I honestly felt was missing from the 9th level damage spells, which is surgical precision, like there are certain situations where you want to deal some heavy damage but blowing up an entire city block with meteor swarm, or turning into a giant dragon aren't really a good option, like when you're in an enclosed space or trying to be quiet, and the fact that you get to make two attacks with it each turn with each attack getting a 15% crit chance(give yourself advantage on them somehow and your enemies are gonna be a bloody smear in seconds) and then it can pass through any barrier including things like resilient sphere and walls of force make this an amazing spell for certain situations
I find it amusing that Blade of Disaster can pass through any barrier, but since it requires a melee spell attack roll, it can potentially be blocked by leather armor. 5th edition doesn't have touch AC or a touch attack, so armor always figures into an attack roll.
@@jonathanblanton9446 yeah that can come across a bit ridiculous, that's why as a DM I always roleplay that kind of stuff as my players dodging or the attack swinging wide rather than their armor stopping it
@@jonathanblanton9446 yes, but AC isn't just pure armor. AC also puts into account a character mobility and generally how hard they are to hit. That's why light and medium armors, as well as unarmored defense, use your Dexterity. You aren't always blocking an attack, you are also dodging it altogether.
I've been looking through these comments hoping to find someone disagreeing with them. I don't see how they could write it off so easily. High dmg aoe vs multi round single target dmg is not comparable, that's a role decision. I also feel like shapeshift looks much better than it is in reality. It may be that my view is tainted because I had the spell as a druid, and found out that it was a waste to use instead of foresight (which is better than everything); nevertheless, I think it is just too easy to get your concentration knocked out. First round as a dragon I was knocked out. You'd have to take war caster AND resilient con just to feel safe.
@@Evanakascorpio10 exactly, is blade of the disaster the best 9th level spell? no of course not that will always be things like wish because of the versatility of it being used to recreate any other spell, or foresight because it is the games most powerful buff, but blade of disaster is still a good spell it fills a niche that was unfilled by this point, and after actually having seen it in play it is also a really fun spell for a high level wizard because it gives them the kind of multi-turn high output single target dpt slaughter that is normally reserved for fighters
All I can picture with Tasha’s Otherworldly Guise is the Magical Girl Transformation from anime.
And Tenser's Transformation is a super saijin transformation completely with golden aura and screaming
I picture the main character of Overlord turning into a knight.
Glorious
And Blade of Disaster is basically the Ragna Blade from Slayers.
@@genostellar With the author's DnD background I'm almost sure Perfect Warrior is basically just Tenser's Transformation renamed to avoid copyright
The thing about Tasha's Caustic Brew is, yes it only deals 2d4 damage every turn, BUT you are able to hit multiple creatures.
It does also force someone to waste an action if they don't want the damage, which is nice.
@@darienb1127 Yeah, in theory that's cool. But in most cases they would rather just attack you until you drop concentration.
@@aasekristoffer assuming they can attack you, hit them with that, tanky boi moves in to attack them, now they are distracted by him and constantly taking damage until either you break concentration or they decide "run away and get acid off me" which would provoke an attack of opportunity, it is definitely a spell that requires a team though.
Plus it can cost the enemies their action to remove it
I just see it being useful for taking out a bunch of low level mooks. Like early goblins or something
Jeremy Crawford mentioned you can still use booming blade and green flame blade with war caster, you’re still targeting an enemy it just originates from your person
One thing of note about Spirit Shroud, it doesn’t require it to be melee attacks. It’s ANY attack that hits an opponent with in 10 feet, which gives a wizard that’s being corned a little extra oomf against the creatures closing in
Or a warlock spamming eldritch blast at point-blank range.
Haven't played yet, but I'm taking Tasha's Caustic Brew and Transmuted Spell metamagic with my sorcerer, purely because I like the idea of covering my enemies in globules of thunder.
Or napalm. We can commit war crimes in dnd, oh yeah!
What a quote. ''Most things are better than witch bolt.''
I'm surprised they only said most considering how poorly they look upon it. But then most people look poorly on it. Even when other things have just as many potential weaknesses or downsides. But then a lot of things get ignored in favor of beginner or solo friendly ease of use for a lot of things.
@@Quandry1 Wait, what has as many flaws as Witch Bolt?
@@devin5201 True Strike?
Find traps
@@TheRobotDevil True... you know what yes, pun intended.
Not gonna lie, Blade of Disaster is actually my favorite spell currently. I've always been a sucker for spiritual weapon. This spell is just awesome to me.
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Your a month late on that Eli.
They forgot the plus 2 boost to ac with tasha’s other worldly guise which gives it more viability in my opinion
I'd like to remind as well for Spirit Shroud that this spell is, to some extent, a straight upgrade to the Chill Touch cantrip. Sure many undead have Resistance to Necrotic damage, but you could just change it to Radiant instead to make it deal even more, and for ones like Vampires which can (and do, to some extent) rely on the ability to regenerate, a spell like this can be an absolutely crippling nightmare for them.
So... yeah, this spell is more or less a straight up a fusion of Chill Touch and Spirit Guardians. That is NICE.
Came here to talk about this in some way. If hit with Spirit Shroud a creature cannot regain hit points.
Chill Touch + Hex on steroids. A hasted Paladin smiting while using this spell could potentially 1 round that Vampire Lord, especially if they crit on either one of their attacks.
tasha's caustic brew is a lot scarier on an alchemist artificer (with the alchemical savant ability) pumping out extra damage on every turn. Even when just at 2nd level, 4d4+5 damage every turn while leaving me free to cast additonal spells is pretty cash money.
My alchemist Artificer JUST hit 5th level. Time to melt shit! All monsters: "Haha... I'm in danger!"
Unfortunately, that doesn't work as well as we'd hope. Alchemical Savant, like many other damage boosting abilities (Arcane Firearm, Empowered Evocation, etc) only applies to one roll, so only one of the acid damage rolls would have the Int bonus. I wish WotC wouldn't make these abilities only apply to one roll, since it would make spells like these and Scorching Ray and others work better for blasters.
It can wreck other concentration effects.
Looking forward to all the TCoE content coverage!
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Mind sliver is the best new spell there's no arguing that. Even without quickened spell, spells that weaponize your bonus action go well with this. exp: mind sliver + storm sphere zap (tried it at my game, super cool)
Merry foodtimes to all ye dudes and dudettes!
Oh yes I’m so excited to learn all about these news spells!
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*cries in Druid*
Rangers also got not much but at least we can still dps
Tasha's Otherworldly guise sounds quite interesting for an Elf magic casters since they can use longbows (it's weapon attacks not just melee attacks). It's especially good in case they meet a monster with damage resistances to their spells
Don't forget on Otherworldy Guise, the +2 AC bump. I agree that the spell is still a little niche... but The Dudes forgot to mention that benefit. That might help to turn the tide in a clutch moment.
I'm sorry what exactly is the benefit? How is attacking with a bow better than attacking with cantrips?
@@DaDunge Sharpshooter for greater minimum damage, provided that the target's AC and resistances to piercing aren't going to make you miss or do less damage than the cantrip?
@@DaDunge As i said, in case the creature is immune or has resistance to your spells. It's also good because spells that give damage immunities are quite rare. If you give it a good look it's quite versatile.
@@worldshaking00 You're suggesting making an entire build around this spell... what do you do until you get high enough level to have it?
A quick note on the summoning spells, you said “the shepherd Druid will love them.” However, the mighty summoner ability gives 2 extra HP per hit die. But NONE of these summon spell creatures have listed hit die. So the old spells are even better in comparison for the shepherd Druid.
Yea it seems like a really bad oversight that the druid that specializes in summons doesnt synergize with the summon spells 😞
Unless they issue an errata on this, I would adjudicate this as spell level = hit dice.
Can't wait to use spirit shroud with my hexblade that uses a flame tongue sword
Kelly's comedic timing on "so maybe niche, so maybe bad, you decide" was perfect.
So, Cantrips, Mind Sliver, Mind Whip, Spirit Shroud and Otherwordly Guise. Got it. This is actually a great help because I'm writing up a Drow Bladesinger that is a champion of Eilistraee.
Summon Beast is a blast with my Kenku Swarmkeeper. If the swarm of small crows is not enough, you summon a bigger crow. And if you are really pissed, you cast Conjure Animals and summon the two giant crow parents.
It’s Crowpocalypse II: The Crowening! 😱
@@johnhall8046 It's obviously Birdemic
For tashas caustic brew, you forget that a inanimate object can’t take actions, making it perfect for mining your way through a wall to make a short cut, or dig out a trench very very quickly. It’s a high tier good in my ranking
You. I like you. My Alchemist just got more giddy for hitting 5th level :D
i know i've said it before, but that 'stache is glorious!
Otherworldly Guise would be a must have for a frontline cleric, like Tempest or War, but isn’t on their spell list. Seems like an oversight.
Right? Even just in a purely thematic sense, that's such an odd choice. It literally says you draw on the magic of the Upper or Lower Planes, which clerics technically do every day already. I don't think there are many other spells that so effectively capture the feeling of being a living representation of your deity's awesome power.
Idk, all I'm saying is, I'd allow it at my table.
It's even more weird when you see it was in the cleric spell list in UA, probably they didn't want to give an extra attack to clerics
Just like tenser's transformation would be a must have for hexblades but is wizard only.
@@nicolobertoncello4743 Yeah, I had to check I was reading it right. I don't really think it is worth it for most Arcane casters, but for a Cleric it is a really solid choice that actually has benefits.
@@DaDunge tensers transformation being an iconic wizard spell makes sense, but sorcerers got hugely nerfed because they used to have the exact same spell list as a wizard if the spell didnt affect spellbooks or something. Its makes sense why tensers wasnt a warlock thing in earlier editions because everything warlocks could do they could do at will, so its kinda a hold over. But otherworldly guise has no holdover lore bs
Shadow Sorcerers are thankful this Xmas season!
Quicked Spell, Mind Sliver, Tasha's Mind Whip, and Synaptic Static, all make the Hound of Ill Omen even scarier!
Wanted to say that while there are a lot of d&d advice and guide channels out there but I find you “dudes” to be the most clear and organized, thorough, and enjoyable listen.
Blade of disaster seems like a great single target spell that allows you to continue to cast spells cause you aren’t a dragon during it. Also it’s a bonus action, so no long wind up time. It seems to me like an upgraded version of crown of stars almost.
Kelly your shirts are always on point my dude.
Blade of Disaster: Casted as a Bonus Action. Swings on an enemy each turn twice on the turn it is casted. Can swing again as a bonus action on subsequent turns meaning you can keep casting Non-Concentration Spells. Has a 15% chance to crit. Gets 8 more d12 on a crit, meaning those dice are also doubled when calculating damage (24d12 total dice rolled because it's a crit for an average of 120 damage). Deals FORCE damage.
This is a boss killer spell and as someone who plays ALOT of Sorcerer because of how versatile Metamagic is, this is easily my favorite Level9 spell all time now lol.
Caustic Brew feels like it could be a tentpole spell for someone who really wants to go all-in on an Acid caster. Something like a Black or Copper Draconic Sorcerer with Acid Elemental Adept. 2d4 is not a lot of damage, but the fact that it's multiple dice synergizes reasonably well with Elemental Adept, and the Elemental Affinity for Draconic Sorcerer helps raise the base damage.
Actually, with the new sorcerer metamagic, you can change the damage to lightning and it's still better than witch's bolt.
I also think that it is a great spell to upcast, it's the only spell so far that has it's damage multiplied by the spell slot level. For instance a 1st lvl slot gets 2d4, 2nd lvl gets 4d4, 3rd gets 6d4, then 8d4 so on and so forth
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Love how you have the video organized by spell, very useful!
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Something that one should remember about the new summoning spells: The "Summon Greater Demon" spell required you to keep your concentration on the spell or otherwise the summoned creature would turn hostile agianst your party. It could even happen without you taking damage, because the demon got to roll a charisma saving throw every turn. These new summon spells don't have that problem. The creatures disappear if you loose your concentration, but they don't become an actual problem for your party. Added to that, if you're playing a conjuration wizard, at 10th level you gain the ability, that your concentration on conjuration spells can't be broken by taking damage. So there you go, summon your trusty elementals, golems and fiends as much as you like. Perfectly save and a very effective way of using your concentration.
I like to call these spells the "It's always sunny in philadelphia" summons.
An uncontrolled summon greater demon does not turn hostile to your party. It "spends its turns pursuing and attacking the nearest non-demons to the best of its ability." This nearest non-demon should just be the enemy whose face the demon was already wailing on. It's god if the demon breaks free, that way you don't have to concentrate on the spell anymore and you still have a meat shield and dps for your team for 1d6 rounds which is plenty of time for it to get killed by the enemy before it would ever become a problem for your allies.
@@ATinyWaffle Yes, but it also mean that your allies can't be anywhere near the demon or risk getting attacked by it. If you throw the demon far away in the backlines it's a useful distraction, but I still think that the new summon spells are safer and in general better, especially considering the summon spells have a very wide variety of things they can be used for with each summon having at least three forms, etc.
Booming/Greenflame Blades are MUST HAVE for melee characters with access to them.
You need to balance dmg potential with extra attacks.
@@kelb76, not an issue for Rogues, Bladesingers, and many of the levels of Eldritch Knight.
Definetly must have for everyone without multiattack.
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You didn't mention that Spirit Shroud also prevents a target from regaining hit points until the start of your next turn when they are damaged by it. A niche feature, sure, but the spell is already great, and then you just get that anti-heal as a free bonus.
Also, I think it is worth mentioning that the Summon Undead spell is affected by a necromancy wizard's Undead Thralls feature, so that's nice.
As the necromancy enthusiast that I am, I really like that spell. Been wanting a spell like that.
Thanks for the awesome content! Taking the time over Thanksgiving to catch up on SoD :)
Tasha's Otherworldly Guise is incredible. Being able to fly plus immunity to radiant/necrotic damage, extra attack, plus 2 to AC, and its a concentration spell that allows you to cast other spells? A flying sorcerer that can rain down havoc on the battle field is amazing.
If you just want to fly, cast Fly for a 3rd level slot instead of using your 6th level spell.
I love the moments where you guys go off script and improvise, it feels very free and entertaining. Great spell rankings by the way!
Making my way through the Dungeons of Drakkenheim at the moment, I love it so much!!!
You guys are amazing players/DM, it's given me a lot of inspiration for my own game
Oh yeah all the new spells! Can't wait to see your opinions on these!
I used spirit shroud on a bladesinger in a one shot last week, and it was amazing!
You guys are getting much better at this! Great video as always.
I just wanna drop y'all a line and say I love your videos. You guys lay things out so clear and leave it open for interpretation. I appreciate the effort and hope all is well!
Tashas otherworldly guide adding that +2 to AC makes it a much better spell. A bladesinger wizard with their dex and int into their armor class adding 2 more to their AC since they can't wield a shield makes them significantly tankier, couple that with a fly speed and they are a terror. The options on their own are not great, but together I think it's a must have for a melee caster
You guys forgot about the +2 to ac Otherworldly Guise gives you.
It's not exactly a big deal.
@@DaDunge +2 to ac on top of everything else is a pretty big deal.
@@ShirotoraGodsbane On top of what? a couple of resistances and a fly speed?
@@DaDunge Resistances, a condition immunity, a fly speed, a (possible) bonus to attack and extra attack. Everything it does combines for a potentially powerful combination for certain classes. I've been using it with my warlock, and I can say from experience, it's a potent spell.
@@DaDunge Its not resistance, you gain immunities to the relevant damage types.
Thank you, Kelly, I blew coffee out my nose onto my tablet, with that close up!
love all the tasha's content dudes! love the channel and looking forward to getting some of this new content into the game at our table, much aided by your great instruction and review videos!
i think you under rated Tasha's caustic brew 1st lvl its either does damage every turn or make them lose there action to stop it and the fact you can get more then one person is great
right, plus most people get a lot of 1st level spells, so even if you choose it and its a bit of a flop, its not a huge deal. but yeah, consistent damage or taking up a creature's full action at early levels is actually pretty huge. Plus at low levels, 2d4 really isn't that bad (~9 damage)
@@CalculusPhysics ~5, max 8. Maybe you were thinking 2d8?
Imo it also seems good to upcast, it's 2d4 per level, meaning a 2nd level casting deals more damage than flaming sphere, and is on par with spiritual weapon or moonbeam. Which is great considering this can also hit multiple creatures and requires no extra actions from you afterwards
I feel compelled to write a short story about the pixies and t-rexes strategy from a pixie's perspective. It would be an extremely dark psychological horror.
It's very satisfying when I go to one of your videos to see if you've brought up the one specific point I'm curious about, and it's pretty much always there. In this case, it was Quicken Mind Sliver.
Probably it has already been written somewhere in the comments but: the party caster casts Intellect Fortress on the Totem Bearbarian. Now he resists to every kind of damage and he is weak only on Dex ST. Nice tank.
Well he does get advantage on dex saves so he is not completly useless against dex based savning throws
My favorite spell in the book was the unranked one.
I understand their logic, but Dream of the Blue Veil is just so evocative to me
Yeah trick your DM into allowing you to go to ravnica, the the entire MTG universe is open to you.
@@DaDunge Trick them?! Heck, I'll do that in my game of my own volition!
@@theyonlycomeoutwhenitsquiet Just remember that after the war of the spark items from other worlds are a dime a dozen on Ravnica.
I gave spirit shroud to my warlock with eldritch blast at high levels it’s crazy
Note it works only on targets within 10 ft.
26:25 "You decide!!!". This is why I would watch these guys even if they weren't geeking out about D&D. Thanks Kelly and Monty for your late nights doing deep reads on the new book!
I love how Tasha's book gave many things for sorcerers. They deserved!
Mind Sliver and Tasha's Mind Whip are great spells to *give* to Mind Flayers.
All these new spells and I just want Monty's hoodie.
It does look really comfortable.
Honestly, I LOVE Blade of Disaster. Both thematically, and tactically. I had an eldritch blast sniper Warlock, who could do some great crowd control and long distance fighting. In almost every boss fight, being able to drop the Blade of Disaster and then stand there and go to town on an enemy who just got held by Hold Monster? I don't know I've ever done anywhere near that much damage in one turn before as four crit eldritch blasts+two crits from Blade of Disaster for three turns! It was also used at one point when a mini boss tried to ambush my Warlock behind the party, and between knocking them back with eldritch blasts +blade of disaster tearing him apart was able to solo the mini boss before moving to help the party!
loving this channel man
tasha's caustic brew: as it stands, the closest competition to it is witch bolt, which gives a guaranteed 1d12 lightning if the first attack was a hit. But with this spell you can hit (realistically) 2-3 creatures most of the time. The damage output compared to other 1st level spells is huge , so when playing a level 1 or 2 character it is a very good spell actually. I get why you guys rate it as niche though, because once you get third level spells and a second attack on your cantrip the 1st level spells become fairly useless.
Obligatory Happy Alchemist Noises though. Thats some very efficient damage per round if upscaled.
Blade of disaster being a Bonus action is something that wasn’t discussed. I think it is the best at what it does, which is single target damage. Especially if you have Advantage. With advantage this spell does an expected 160 points of damage to a target, that will almost never be resisted, in just two rounds. Leaving you free to use your action to do any number of other wonderful things. Not insane for a 9th level spell but certainly respectable. I do think Monty has a point that damage likely isn’t what you want to be doing with your high level spells. But if it is? It’s this or Meteor Swarm, and I don’t think the choice is super obvious.
I fully agree with you. Meteor Swarm is an amazing spell, but it's a one-trick pony, and it is best against hordes of enemies - which is typically not what you're fighting in the endgame. Also there are definitely limitations, such as hitting allies or allied structures - and if your DM is stingy they might even impose sanctions when fighting in caverns, narrow spaces, etc. - I know that I would. And as you already pointed out, the Blade will most likely outdamage Meteor Swarm after two rounds against a single enemy. I think calling this 'bad' really doesn't do it justice.
Blade of Disaster would be amazing in the hands of a Conj Wiz. You mention Meteor Swarm or True Polymorphing into a dragon, both require space which could limit their uses. BoD can always be useable.
Since Caustic brew scales up really nicely with upcasting, there is a fun challenge to user: "what is the higest upcast i can use that the enemy wont bother to deal with"
Spirit shroud is good for a rogue.
"Allow me to deal all these d6s, plus..."
There was no mention of the +2 AC on Tasha's Otherworldly Guise in your breakdown of what it gives, or the summary of it at the end. Given that addition, does that +2 AC improve the consideration at all since it's basically a free extra shield worth of AC? Or does this not stack with other +AC effects and so won't happen very often at this level?
Love the spells in this book. You guys should make a video talking about other spells from 3e and older editions that aren't in 5e.
As always, thank you for this guide :) I am trying to quickly binge through them as I am preparing for a D&D 5E campaign with a new, random group of people :P
Speaking of Shepherd Druids, how would you adjudicate their +hp per hit die on their summons with the new spells?
Unfortunately the new summons don't have hit die, so RAW they can't benefit from Shepherd class feature.
@@PineapplePlatypus It will be patched
@@WexMajor82 Did the Dev's say that? Because it seems like something they could have patched before they went to print. They are also going to have to patch a lot more than just the 3 spells that Summon Undead for Necromancers is affected too. and I'm sure there are others in some way that I'm not remembering somewhere.
@@Quandry1 It will be some Sage Advice most likely.
@@WexMajor82 Do you know that for a fact or are you talking out of your ass?
"Most things are better than Witch Bolt."
Me, the one guy who actually likes Witch Bolt: 😳
I like Witch Bolt on Warlocks. It's very efficient, and viable until at least level 11 when Eldritch Blast gets its 3rd attack. After that, just cast it for 5d12 and let it drop.
Can't wait for you to review the new ranger stuff in this book!
I have a rogue AT that buoys using lightning lure, and I started a sorcerer who has mind sliver. Hope to have fun adjusting dice! Thanks, Dudes!
the "drama" about summoning spells is kinda bs. The onus on having the stats for what you conjure is on the player, its not that hard. You don't have the stats? then you can't summon it. The spells are are really clear about the challenge rating on what you summon and it encourages the player to actually look into what they want to summon.
The big problem is that the books also say "Your DM has the creature's stats"
And if you're a more casual player you're probably not gonna own a Monster Manual
The drama isn't really about the stats of the creature, it about how most summon spells let you completely fuck with the action economy, giving you like 6 to 8 creatues worth of attack on your turn. Even if they are weak, trust me, it won't matter. They are still going to DESTORY the encounter.
@@All4Tanuki You can google just about any creature and gets its stat block
"There was all that Drama about whether the GM gets to chose the Monsters or the Players do" Yeah welcome to 5th Edition, where they can't formulate something unambiguously to save their life despite the fact that they literally had over 40 years to learn the pitfalls. How can you formulate a summon spell without clearly stating who chooses the summon? It's ridiculous.
Would love to see a video ranking the new subclasses, a lot of them seem super interesting!
A quick note about the Booming Blade and Green-Flame Blade cantrips is that the range was updated to self in Tasha's. Meaning they can officially be used with reach weapons like glaives, halberds, whips, etc. to make an attack at 10 ft instead of the original 5 ft range from SCA. Most DMs ruled this anyways, but it's nice to see this made canon.
FYI. Anything you make on HeroForge becomes their intellectual property as per their TOS. Some people might not care but it's worth considering.
Thank you, really nice and informative :)!
I agree on your thoughts that Blade of disaster is a very niche spell, however as a DM I think I'd change the casting time of it to an action so that first turn you can get up to 4 attacks with it and then get those subsequent rounds with the bonus action while your still free to cast other spells. I think this alone makes it a lot better because if you can give yourself or an ally can give you adv on that first turn you can really fish for crits and make use of that extra crit damage.
I personally love blade of disaster, and I would probably pick it over many of the other 9th level spells, not because I think it's better than them, but because it can fit a theme I would want a character to have.