The view down onto Winnat's Pass and the channel 4 ident of the cement works off towards Bradwell makes it all worth the effort. I remember hike-a-bike up to the top of Mam Tor straight afterwards too - that less worth the effort lol
Its in the 2nd hundred book. Simon always seemed to pick the steeper ones in his 1st book, or ones commonly used for hill climb events. This is way better than peaslows just down the road. I loved it.
I've been holidaying in the area and rode this on the same day as you (I actually rode it 3 times during the week as well as Winatts Pass earlier in the week). It's an awesome climb. Kudos on your effort as it's a tough climb.
my area - lived around here all my life and going out virtually every day/night since lockdown I appreciat how lucky i am - mountain biking alternating with road biking
Not sure if anyone has answered this below - but demystifying why your power ramps down when you hit a flatter section.....anyway the power equation has 2 inputs Torque and Angular Velocity (AV). Part of the AV input is RPM. So when you reach a flatter section your power will drop off because your torque drops off (the force you push with through the pedals). You are therefore undergeared for that flat section. If you pushed it into a harder gear, then your torque input would increase. However that can be a faff and undesirable sometimes. So if you don’t want to change gear and your power drops off because your torque input has tailed off, it is possible to increase the power by spinning your legs more. This can be difficult too with tired legs, but gets easier with practice. So when the climb flattens off and you can see your power dropping off and you don’t necessarily want to change gear, spin at a higher cadence say 100-110 RPM.
The Power equation if anyone is interested is Angular velocity is 2πRadians Radians can be converted into 2πRPM/minutes of angle (MoA) which the product of how fast your pedals travel round of the circle of your chain ring. So for cadence at 90 RPM = 2π90RPM/60MoA 2π90/60 = 9.42 Torque for this climb would be say, around 30-35Nm, let’s call that 32.5 eg 2π90(RPM)/60(MoA) x 32.5(Nm) = 306w So if you do the math - if your power drops off because your Torque drops because the climb flattens then increasing your RPM will also increases your power.
eg 2π100(RPM)/60(MoA) x 30(Nm) = 314Nm So if you decease the power through the pedals by 5Nm (quite a noticeable amount) but increase the cadence by 10 revolutions per minute (not that much) your power in this example increases by almost 10 watts. It’s easier to test this on the flat. Choose a gear, spin at 90RPM then drop down to an easier gear. Spin at 90 still then at 100....then at 110...you’ll get the idea.
You are amazing and so inspiring! After watching this I set out a plan to get in the saddle more often and make riding a priority. I absolutely love these videos and the post ride commentary that you provide. I have gone back and watched all of your other climbs...they are just awesome. Thanks so much for bringing such great content and your personal perspective of your riding journeys. Love it!
hahah...recovery day here after hitting it hard everyday here in August and August in Pennsylvania is no joke with heat and humidity...Keep pedaling!!!!
Great to see you do a hill near me (Sheffield)! Just dug out my power data for when I rode this about a year ago... my average was about 300w too. Unfortunately I weigh 80kg so I was somewhat slower than you were! My bottom gear of 30/25 (equal to 36/30) meant my average cadence was barely 70... think I need to gear down next time!
Nice vid Katie. We live round Matlock and always call the climb Mam Nick and the hill top to your left Mam Tor. Mam Nick is I think the name of the summit of the road climb. If you headed uphill to your left from there you’d then be climbing Mam Tor, literally Mother Tor of the mini tors around it created by all the shale land slips. Nice to see I’m not the only one with a ‘dog nose’ when climbing.
Good morning, good morning! Edale and the Peak ... a magical place on earth. Great memories of my time walking there. I’m off on another group ride tomorrow in rural south eastern Ontario ... rolling hills only for this bicycle newbie and I still won’t be touching no cows eh!
I've been doing this regularly over this spring /summer, see plenty of cyclists walking up or stopping. As you are cycling up the view over the left shoulder is down Edale valley. It's amazing.
When you say that your power drops on the flat bits, it's only because you're in the same gear as the hilly bits. If you was to drop down a few gears your power would be the same, but then you wouldn't get the respite that those flat bits give you. It's normal for that to happen! Great climb though. Even though I live in Sheffield and frequent the peaks I've only gone up a handful of times. I'll have to revisit.
Its defo Mam Nick. Too vid as always, its weird cos the bit before it gets to 17% up passed the sign and gate always feels like the steepest and most difficult part to me. You should do deliverance on Strines or the beast of Bradwell (a few miles down the road from castleton)
CR2032 batteries. I’ve recently put a new one in my Stages power meter, my Wahoo HR monitor, my Wahoo speed sensor and my Wahoo cadence meter (on a different bike). All the same and interchangeable. They all died on me over a two week period.
Excellent effort....👍👍👍 I used to fly gliders across the valley above Bakewell (a field called Camp hill) and can vouch for the beautiful scenery especially this time of year when the heather flowers and the hills turn purple.... Question did you forget the gloves or do you not wear any? 🤔
Fav peaks climb this, just sooooo beautiful and lovely to ride, all that swishing and swooping the bends, good quality surface after the edale rise aswell! awesome! Also, its not in the original '100 Greatest' book but its in Warrens regional climbs books under 'Mam Nick' in the Midlands book...just after Winnats I think.
I really enjoy your channel. I’ve been cycling seriously since 1986 and also like to climb. This particular video has convinced me to get a power meter for my Domane as well. I also recently purchased a Wahoo Elemt Roam and use it on every ride. I live in the States and am now I senior citizen so the Watts I make on rides may not be all that important but I’ll enjoy seeing them on the computer. Keep riding, being safe, and please continue your great videos. Consider me the 50,000 and 1 subscribers waving at you and encouraging you up the next climb. Take care and thank you for your hard work at cycling and the recording of same.
👋🏻 I’m waving right back at you Katie! I’ll let you know about the power meter and it’s use as soon as get it installed and take a few rides with it. Have a great next ride!🚴♂️
Great effort. That final hairpin is a killer. Ever considered doing Wessenden Head from Meltham? 3.2km @ 8%. Surprised you've not done it as it's the other side of Sky Road!
It’s in his second book btw. I prefer this climb to winnits as it’s more varied and has better views. I recently did pea royd in Sheffield which I’d say is almost as hard as winnits. Can you do a video of Riber? That’s the hardest I’ve managed
Hi Kay Kay, saw your recent activity of 0.3km on Strava, was hoping that you were going to a nearby grocery store. Wasn't expect this !!! 🤔👍👍. Go go go.....
From my training days 40 years ago that climb is actually Mam Nick. Mam Tor is the road that had the landslide out of Castleton. The original Mam Tor climb was famous from the Tour of the Peaks many years ago. Both climbs were regularly on my training rides.
Great effort Katie, I too don’t mind I bit of mist when out riding. You mention you run a 40 on your cassette for hills?, is that some kind of custom cassette. I ride a ribble R872 with ultegra, biggest cassette I’ve seen online for it is 11-34.
I use a mountain bike cassette on my 105 bike. You might need a wolf tooth roadlink if your derailleur isn't low/long enough. This article explains it all pretty well: road.cc/content/feature/how-get-ultra-low-gearing-gravel-bike-adventures-246424
Garmin Virb software... just download it for Mac/PC. You then hunt around for ages to find the option to Import the MP4 - you then import the GPX file (exported from Strava). Finally you sync the two together. Takes a little practice; especially if you have to manually sync up which I've had to do a few times in the past. You can then mess around the gauges and save presets and everything else that takes your fancy. Ps. you need to make sure your action camera GPS option is turned on as it embeds stuff inside the MP4 file.
@@BikepackingAdventures Sounds like it would be possible to use with a Wahoo element since I'm just importing a GPX file. Now I have to figure out something interesting to do :D
Well done Katie another epic climb, don’t worry about blowing your nose and wiping on your Jersey , with them Efforts , keep up the good work 🚴♀️👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
impressive skill . Thanks for your tenacity , very encouraging... climb is a trance i think , and don't worry for your nose thing , it's exactly the same for me !
The Ribble looks great. And really strong climbing; great power. Shame about hr as I find this a really useful parameter to see (although it is very individual I know). Hilarious "snot issues"; happy its not just me. Totally agree about improving on the hills, by doing hills. If I don't do them regularly I get really bad "hill anxiety " that affects my breathing. Repetition develops confidence.
Haha…glad I’m not the only one blowing my nose and spitting my phlegm during my rides. 🤣 Amazing videos. Would love to see how you use your technology and put those videos together.
Awesome video again, Katie! Personally I don't mind, but my OCD wants me to let you know that it was acsolutely up the walls over the crooked camera angle... ;-)
Snot video, makes me smile 🙂, you are definitely not the only one. I've got less power than you (but about 20 more years), you said you are running 40 on the back, what have you got at the front? My lowest is 36/32
I am guessing you have been asked this a BILLION TIMES.... What overlay software are you using to display your power/route/time etc. THANKS Keep up the awesome VLOGs - from CANADA this is the CritMonster :)
Ha! I tried riding it on a fixie with a 42/22 gear. I'd worked out that if I could maintain 300 watts I should be able to stay above 60rpm. What I failed to take into account was that 300w at 90rpm is one thing and 300w at 60rpm is something else entirely. I did not stay above 60 rpm. I did not make it up the hill :-)
Great to see the climb, I lived in Edale for a while. I think Man Tor was the road from them Castleton side that collapsed and long time ago.
The view down onto Winnat's Pass and the channel 4 ident of the cement works off towards Bradwell makes it all worth the effort.
I remember hike-a-bike up to the top of Mam Tor straight afterwards too - that less worth the effort lol
Its in the 2nd hundred book. Simon always seemed to pick the steeper ones in his 1st book, or ones commonly used for hill climb events. This is way better than peaslows just down the road. I loved it.
I've been holidaying in the area and rode this on the same day as you (I actually rode it 3 times during the week as well as Winatts Pass earlier in the week). It's an awesome climb. Kudos on your effort as it's a tough climb.
my area - lived around here all my life and going out virtually every day/night since lockdown I appreciat how lucky i am - mountain biking alternating with road biking
Not sure if anyone has answered this below - but demystifying why your power ramps down when you hit a flatter section.....anyway the power equation has 2 inputs Torque and Angular Velocity (AV). Part of the AV input is RPM. So when you reach a flatter section your power will drop off because your torque drops off (the force you push with through the pedals). You are therefore undergeared for that flat section. If you pushed it into a harder gear, then your torque input would increase. However that can be a faff and undesirable sometimes. So if you don’t want to change gear and your power drops off because your torque input has tailed off, it is possible to increase the power by spinning your legs more. This can be difficult too with tired legs, but gets easier with practice. So when the climb flattens off and you can see your power dropping off and you don’t necessarily want to change gear, spin at a higher cadence say 100-110 RPM.
The Power equation if anyone is interested is
Angular velocity is 2πRadians
Radians can be converted into 2πRPM/minutes of angle (MoA) which the product of how fast your pedals travel round of the circle of your chain ring.
So for cadence at 90 RPM = 2π90RPM/60MoA
2π90/60 = 9.42
Torque for this climb would be say, around 30-35Nm, let’s call that 32.5
eg 2π90(RPM)/60(MoA) x 32.5(Nm)
= 306w
So if you do the math - if your power drops off because your Torque drops because the climb flattens then increasing your RPM will also increases your power.
eg 2π100(RPM)/60(MoA) x 30(Nm)
= 314Nm
So if you decease the power through the pedals by 5Nm (quite a noticeable amount) but increase the cadence by 10 revolutions per minute (not that much) your power in this example increases by almost 10 watts.
It’s easier to test this on the flat. Choose a gear, spin at 90RPM then drop down to an easier gear. Spin at 90 still then at 100....then at 110...you’ll get the idea.
You are amazing and so inspiring! After watching this I set out a plan to get in the saddle more often and make riding a priority. I absolutely love these videos and the post ride commentary that you provide. I have gone back and watched all of your other climbs...they are just awesome. Thanks so much for bringing such great content and your personal perspective of your riding journeys. Love it!
hahah...recovery day here after hitting it hard everyday here in August and August in Pennsylvania is no joke with heat and humidity...Keep pedaling!!!!
Yes we want to see how you record this! I'm between a drone or someone in front of you riding up hill as well.
Great to see you do a hill near me (Sheffield)!
Just dug out my power data for when I rode this about a year ago... my average was about 300w too. Unfortunately I weigh 80kg so I was somewhat slower than you were! My bottom gear of 30/25 (equal to 36/30) meant my average cadence was barely 70... think I need to gear down next time!
Nice vid Katie. We live round Matlock and always call the climb Mam Nick and the hill top to your left Mam Tor. Mam Nick is I think the name of the summit of the road climb. If you headed uphill to your left from there you’d then be climbing Mam Tor, literally Mother Tor of the mini tors around it created by all the shale land slips. Nice to see I’m not the only one with a ‘dog nose’ when climbing.
Haha hello fellow dog nose
Good morning, good morning! Edale and the Peak ... a magical place on earth. Great memories of my time walking there. I’m off on another group ride tomorrow in rural south eastern Ontario ... rolling hills only for this bicycle newbie and I still won’t be touching no cows eh!
I've been doing this regularly over this spring /summer, see plenty of cyclists walking up or stopping. As you are cycling up the view over the left shoulder is down Edale valley. It's amazing.
When you say that your power drops on the flat bits, it's only because you're in the same gear as the hilly bits. If you was to drop down a few gears your power would be the same, but then you wouldn't get the respite that those flat bits give you. It's normal for that to happen!
Great climb though. Even though I live in Sheffield and frequent the peaks I've only gone up a handful of times. I'll have to revisit.
Amazing effort, what a gal...! Well done, KK.
Awesome climb!! Loved hiking up the Pennine Way out of Edale many years ago when I lived in Manchester! Well done!!
I'm doing this climb as part of a 40 mile mountain bike ride around the Peaks. Thank god i'm using an ebike 😂
I did it today. Just check the strava time and you well and truly beat me! Attempt #1
Its defo Mam Nick. Too vid as always, its weird cos the bit before it gets to 17% up passed the sign and gate always feels like the steepest and most difficult part to me.
You should do deliverance on Strines or the beast of Bradwell (a few miles down the road from castleton)
CR2032 batteries. I’ve recently put a new one in my Stages power meter, my Wahoo HR monitor, my Wahoo speed sensor and my Wahoo cadence meter (on a different bike). All the same and interchangeable. They all died on me over a two week period.
That was quick Katie, only saw this on Strava this morning, video posted already, congrats, nice climb, pity about the fog, cheers Alan.
Shivering Mountain, named by the Romans. The road has been destroyed by landslips so many times the authorities gave up and re routed it.
Thought that was the A625 - the road from Edale to Mam Tor still very much in daily use.
@@philthewriter I was just laying a little background for people unfamiliar with the area.
Excellent effort....👍👍👍 I used to fly gliders across the valley above Bakewell (a field called Camp hill) and can vouch for the beautiful scenery especially this time of year when the heather flowers and the hills turn purple....
Question did you forget the gloves or do you not wear any? 🤔
Only just discovered your channel Katie. Great stuff, thank you.
Awww thanks so much :)
Believe me kook am in California and I still appreciate the beauty of your scenery that fog is simply beautiful. Jc
Ahh so glad Julio, how is the weather there now? I neeeeeed to get back out to California when we are allowed!
Katie Kookaburra just got done with a heat wave and getting ready for a other this weekend so me and the wife do mini rides. But it’s all good. Jc
Fav peaks climb this, just sooooo beautiful and lovely to ride, all that swishing and swooping the bends, good quality surface after the edale rise aswell! awesome!
Also, its not in the original '100 Greatest' book but its in Warrens regional climbs books under 'Mam Nick' in the Midlands book...just after Winnats I think.
Congratulations on your PB Katie. Nice fluid climbing. ❤️
Did this today, had to stop twice, but lovely views. Still not happy to defend although we did Winnatts downwards, but only at 13kph.
Go baby go , were right behind you !
You earn respect .
Take out the alcohol and the athlete
surfaces.
Great effort KK.
Yay! Good job! Behind the scenes video would be amazing!
I really enjoy your channel. I’ve been cycling seriously since 1986 and also like to climb. This particular video has convinced me to get a power meter for my Domane as well. I also recently purchased a Wahoo Elemt Roam and use it on every ride. I live in the States and am now I senior citizen so the Watts I make on rides may not be all that important but I’ll enjoy seeing them on the computer. Keep riding, being safe, and please continue your great videos. Consider me the 50,000 and 1 subscribers waving at you and encouraging you up the next climb. Take care and thank you for your hard work at cycling and the recording of same.
Thank you Michael!!! I'm sending a virtual wave to the States :) Let me know how you get on with the power metre! They are just so good!
👋🏻 I’m waving right back at you Katie! I’ll let you know about the power meter and it’s use as soon as get it installed and take a few rides with it. Have a great next ride!🚴♂️
Great, strong, brave Katie👍👍
Thanks for sharing, it looks an awesome climb and your passion for cycling really jumps out from the video. Mike
Great video again cant believe your wkg! Do you tend to go up a gear or two when you stand or stay in the same gear?
great effort! too bad on missing the heart rate data but if you had to have only one you had to go with power since you are a power girl!!
Good effort! Nice and smooth on the pedals. Climbed it last night as the sun was setting, sheep all over the road going down Wynnats 🐑 😧
Well done KK. Can I ask though ..... had you a rear light ? It was very misty.
Great effort. That final hairpin is a killer. Ever considered doing Wessenden Head from Meltham? 3.2km @ 8%. Surprised you've not done it as it's the other side of Sky Road!
At 13:00 and on, only another cyclist could understand why and how you do it. Brilliant climb and fantastic power! BZ!
inspired, I am off to do that now next week. Awesome effort.
Always ride safe and moree blessing to ride come
how good are road tires from Michelin power competition, tubular
Fantastic effort and very inspiring 👍
It’s in his second book btw. I prefer this climb to winnits as it’s more varied and has better views. I recently did pea royd in Sheffield which I’d say is almost as hard as winnits. Can you do a video of Riber? That’s the hardest I’ve managed
Nice effort Katie. I love how you make climbing, i.e. suffering :), seem so fun!
How do you find your Power readings on the road compared to Zwift? Thanks, good effort again!
Hi Kay Kay, saw your recent activity of 0.3km on Strava, was hoping that you were going to a nearby grocery store. Wasn't expect this !!! 🤔👍👍. Go go go.....
From my training days 40 years ago that climb is actually Mam Nick. Mam Tor is the road that had the landslide out of Castleton. The original Mam Tor climb was famous from the Tour of the Peaks many years ago. Both climbs were regularly on my training rides.
That's fascinating, can you still make out where the old mam tor road was?
Awesome Katie great climb ...
This is official climb number 126. I did it last week. You smashed my time!
Great effort Katie, I too don’t mind I bit of mist when out riding. You mention you run a 40 on your cassette for hills?, is that some kind of custom cassette. I ride a ribble R872 with ultegra, biggest cassette I’ve seen online for it is 11-34.
I use a mountain bike cassette on my 105 bike. You might need a wolf tooth roadlink if your derailleur isn't low/long enough.
This article explains it all pretty well: road.cc/content/feature/how-get-ultra-low-gearing-gravel-bike-adventures-246424
Alan James cheers Alan, I’ve just read the article. Does the wolf tooth roadlink replace the rear mech hanger.
@@favnvs1 No, it attaches to the hanger and the derailleur attaches to the wolf tooth.
I didn't actually need one as I had a GS derailleur already.
Alan James cheers, thanks for the info 👍🏻
My second attempt at it today and it was like Chamonix at the top - cars/ sledges etc! Still hard work with an 11-30 for me. 11-34 coming this week 😁
Good effort, and shout out to the cameraman/woman/person.
Was it Willy Hands Dave? ;-)
Great job on that climb... several times I was thinking I would’ve tapped out here... there... then there... 😆 🙌🏽
There's some lovely rides up at Edale
Awesome effort Katie that car towards the end came up a bit sharpish
Would love to see how you film these, the camerawork is very good.
1 road I have ridden to Castleton :) good ride
I know you've probably been asked a million times, but how are you getting the telemetric data in the video? Nice effort on the climb too!
Garmin Virb software... just download it for Mac/PC. You then hunt around for ages to find the option to Import the MP4 - you then import the GPX file (exported from Strava). Finally you sync the two together. Takes a little practice; especially if you have to manually sync up which I've had to do a few times in the past. You can then mess around the gauges and save presets and everything else that takes your fancy. Ps. you need to make sure your action camera GPS option is turned on as it embeds stuff inside the MP4 file.
@@BikepackingAdventures Sounds like it would be possible to use with a Wahoo element since I'm just importing a GPX file. Now I have to figure out something interesting to do :D
@@jamisonr it works with the Wahoo element and no doubt the bolt will be fine too!
@@jamisonr it works with the Wahoo element and no doubt the bolt will be fine too!
Try Bank rd/Rutland St in Matlock.
Proper tough.
How cassette size you using?
Katie awake to new PB every day! Nearly 60000 followers now!
Crazy numbers! Respect!
Well done Katie another epic climb, don’t worry about blowing your nose and wiping on your Jersey , with them Efforts , keep up the good work 🚴♀️👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Did this climb by mistake heading back to Castleton. Missed a turn in Edale for the off road route up to hollings cross
I've only ever descended it after climbing Winnats. I'll have to do it the other way round just to see if I can beat you @KatieKookaburra ;)
DO IT!!!!!! :)
Waiting for a nice day with a following wind @KatieKookaburra
Waiting for the video where ‘oyster’ snot sticks in your hair. My old coach did it all the time.
Well done Katie
impressive skill . Thanks for your tenacity , very encouraging... climb is a trance i think , and don't worry for your nose thing , it's exactly the same for me !
The Ribble looks great. And really strong climbing; great power. Shame about hr as I find this a really useful parameter to see (although it is very individual I know). Hilarious "snot issues"; happy its not just me. Totally agree about improving on the hills, by doing hills. If I don't do them regularly I get really bad "hill anxiety " that affects my breathing. Repetition develops confidence.
I seen 400w a few times LOVE THAT gooo on girl amazing !!! :]
Great nose action....really impressive ride. It is a v steep hill!
How do you film all your hill climbs, motorcycles or a car ...or a very strong rider in front of you
Will do a video for sure
Haha…glad I’m not the only one blowing my nose and spitting my phlegm during my rides. 🤣 Amazing videos. Would love to see how you use your technology and put those videos together.
Funny how the regional accent comes out at the end of the climb.
"What's he on abaht?"
Lol! Different country, the US but my daughter does the same when she's tired. That country girl comes out!🤣
What kind of mic is that?
Great stuff once again 💪
Have you thought about entering some hill climb events?
Awesome video again, Katie! Personally I don't mind, but my OCD wants me to let you know that it was acsolutely up the walls over the crooked camera angle... ;-)
Snot video, makes me smile 🙂, you are definitely not the only one. I've got less power than you (but about 20 more years), you said you are running 40 on the back, what have you got at the front? My lowest is 36/32
I have a 34 front and 40 back :)
@@KatieKookaburra Thanks Katie, good info, from a rider that is stronger than me, it shows how useful the extra low gears are.
You know you are British when you like misty weather. :D
I need to finds hills around this flat land I live on.
Put a small back wheel on !
@@plusbonus1165 , it *might* simulate gravity if the wheel is lower, and then I can drag my ass. But that sounds like a pain...in the ass. lol
I have only gone down that road.
Was thinking what a 0.3kms ride would make a difference. It certainly did after watching this video.
Doing time trials will improve your flat speed. That is why they are called the ‘Race of Truth’. Put clip on tri bars on your road bike to start.
U look so smooth great cadence looking amazing skinny K x
I am guessing you have been asked this a BILLION TIMES.... What overlay software are you using to display your power/route/time etc. THANKS Keep up the awesome VLOGs - from CANADA this is the CritMonster :)
Scares the crap out of me in a car, some really odd cambers. Beautiful views though, always fancied it on a bike.
That saddle dancing it's way to the tippy top
Good effort but I'd have had some lights on especially at the rear.
A little bit pinchy in places! Love it! LOL
I would love to see a behind the scenes video.
I don't feel so bad about having to push my fixie most of the way up this climb now 😂
Ha! I tried riding it on a fixie with a 42/22 gear. I'd worked out that if I could maintain 300 watts I should be able to stay above 60rpm. What I failed to take into account was that 300w at 90rpm is one thing and 300w at 60rpm is something else entirely. I did not stay above 60 rpm. I did not make it up the hill :-)
Back to what you do best........
When you rode back down did your voice go ??
I found my does in those conditions .
Mo.......................
I enjoy the hill climb part of my ride.
Brilliant 😀👍👏👏
Got yer MAAP top on!
Great ride.....
Would defo love more content on how you vlog, including these effort vids etc :) not sure everyone else would be as interested though, ha...
Mam Tor is the top - Mam Nick is the climb up to Mam Tor