126: MAGA, monarchy and Welby’s woes

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  • Опубликовано: 31 дек 2024

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  • @TheSuzberry
    @TheSuzberry Месяц назад +50

    How can an organization think they are protecting themselves by implicitly condoning child abuse?

    • @knightsnight5929
      @knightsnight5929 Месяц назад +3

      Well, it seems to have worked out for the CC.

    • @tolhumexy6706
      @tolhumexy6706 Месяц назад +4

      All institutions do this; the police, the govt. Don't you read Private Eye? Lol!!!

    • @TheSuzberry
      @TheSuzberry Месяц назад

      @ My question is how is this supposed to protect the organization?

    • @johnboren8928
      @johnboren8928 Месяц назад +7

      @@TheSuzberry They hope to suppress the problem until they can retire and it becomes the next guy's problem.

    • @njp100
      @njp100 Месяц назад

      How is hate these awful people.

  • @adminimer5176
    @adminimer5176 Месяц назад +27

    Private Eye is wonderful and under the direction of Ian Hislop it has become a International great. I cant believe people here in the USA had such a problem voting for a woman of color. As for the scandal in the Church of England, I thought he said he wasnt going to resign... so ridiculous that he dragged this out. Thank you #IanHislop for giving the news and helping us laugh, I appreciate the work you and your staff do; day in, day out and year in and year out! Love from USA

    • @SmolDeBrol
      @SmolDeBrol Месяц назад

      People will vote for a woman of colour. The problem is when she's an airhead, and looks hopelessly out of depth, full of woke rubbish, incapable of explaining policies. Oh and she was also a woman of colour. But so bad a candidate that she lost against Trump. When Britain voted Thatcher, was it because they had a problem with men in power?

    • @advocate1563
      @advocate1563 Месяц назад +3

      It had nothing to do with her personal characteristics and everyrhing to do witj her policies.

    • @NoraJJones
      @NoraJJones Месяц назад

      @@advocate1563- You’re exactly right. She had no policies, no foreign policy experience, couldn’t answer a simple question, and admitted her biggest weakness is that she can’t think on her feet! Her campaign spent a BILLION DOLLARS and remains twenty million in debt. I think Americans made the correct decision. Wait and vote for the RIGHT woman who is qualified.

    • @michelejensen1527
      @michelejensen1527 Месяц назад

      BS, pure racism and misogyny kept VP Harris out.

    • @LilyWong-i6j
      @LilyWong-i6j Месяц назад

      @@adminimer5176 are

  • @TheJamesRedwood
    @TheJamesRedwood Месяц назад +16

    HI there from NZ, the health policy we don't share with USA is universal health care, pretty similar to the NHS but not quite as eviscerated. SO the medical ads are reduced to asking people to suggest to their doctor that they prescribe their drug and not a generic. We also have a national drug purchaser getting the best deal (though it can take some effort to getting some drugs approved). Prescriptions here cost NZ$5 for most medicines.

    • @RichWoods23
      @RichWoods23 Месяц назад +2

      NZ: A civilised country. If only they weren't so bloody good at rugby...

    • @TheJamesRedwood
      @TheJamesRedwood Месяц назад +2

      @@RichWoods23 Are you Irish, Rich? Or English? My commiserations🙂Thanks for the props, though the Boks have been definitely the best team for the last few years.😪

  • @jansmith286
    @jansmith286 Месяц назад +10

    Lovely to hear from Francis Wheen but such a sad reason. How can anyone have any regard for the church of England following such a shambles? They clearly feel above the law and won't challenge wrongdoing or egregious behaviour.

  • @janetbarkwith
    @janetbarkwith Месяц назад +4

    Even if Welby wasn't in the clergy at the time, surely he was obliged by law to report his knowledge of the abuse to the police. Child abuse is, after all, a crime. His resignation statement was an educational exercise in "Not my fault, gov." Weasel words, and very self-exculpatory. Welby is a vile man, as are so many involved in this scandal.

  • @Daniel-u5m6y
    @Daniel-u5m6y Месяц назад +9

    Women's Weekly 1915. "Undesirable people hanging around the children's playground are likely to be on first name terms with the teachers so it is advisable to have strangers there that they are unaccustomed to"

  • @zetectic7968
    @zetectic7968 Месяц назад +5

    All the churches accused of covering up abuse have one thing in common or rather 2: reputation of the institution is more important than an individual; conservation of power is more important than any semblance of pastoral care.
    If I were religious I would say the Devil looks after his own by putting many in positions of religious authority.

  • @wendysimpson6395
    @wendysimpson6395 Месяц назад +6

    His answer on the C4 interview on Mon that he wasn't going to resign "for THIS" was a shock as his emphasis suggests that there are many other reasons!

    • @janetbarkwith
      @janetbarkwith Месяц назад +4

      It also makes it seem as if he considered it to be trivial!

  • @njp100
    @njp100 Месяц назад +8

    Absolutely disgusting. The weasel words.

  • @SonjaMorrison-i7j
    @SonjaMorrison-i7j Месяц назад +9

    Let’s hope, in the wake of Welby’s resignation, the Church will weed out all of the bad actors that remain within their protection. 😎🇨🇦

    • @janetbarkwith
      @janetbarkwith Месяц назад +3

      Fond hope, but I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you.

    • @keithheaven176
      @keithheaven176 Месяц назад +2

      ​@@janetbarkwith I have heard people say they still think the previous Pope was wonderful, despite his defence of the institutional protection of abusers over the years

    • @SonjaMorrison-i7j
      @SonjaMorrison-i7j Месяц назад +1

      @@janetbarkwith still holding my breath for better days to come 🫢

    • @SonjaMorrison-i7j
      @SonjaMorrison-i7j Месяц назад +1

      @@keithheaven176 yes.

    • @janetbarkwith
      @janetbarkwith Месяц назад

      @@keithheaven176 There are ordinary folks in Russia who long for the return of Stalin, so I wouldn't trust the judgement of anyone on the popes tbh.

  • @JDH3666
    @JDH3666 Месяц назад +4

    And where was Charlie during all of this? He is head of the church after all. The grand Poobah should have taken the lead but then again he is a confessed adulterer! So much for that commandment

    • @neiloflongbeck5705
      @neiloflongbeck5705 Месяц назад +1

      Charles has only been the Supreme Governor of the Church of England since September 2022. This is a ceremonial head, the Arhbishop of Canterbury has the real power just like the Prime Miniister has political power.

  • @SerendipityChild
    @SerendipityChild Месяц назад +1

    Thank you for sharing

  • @LilyWong-i6j
    @LilyWong-i6j Месяц назад +7

    As an old PE subscriber I remember your coverage of the Smyth affair. It was brilliant. You are always brilliant in your reports of British affairs. But please do not lionize an orange vulgarian who is the vilest man on earth. Would you believe him when he said,”Many people told me that I am the Queen’s favorite president”? I bet you would!

  • @populuxe1
    @populuxe1 Месяц назад +6

    I for one would love it if you toured to Australia and New Zealand. I will be out front casting rose petals before Ian.

  • @howardrawson-humphries8026
    @howardrawson-humphries8026 Месяц назад +9

    May I ask a polite favour? Could you take another, more detailed look at the latest Agri Brigade article? Surely the farmers are worthy of your attention?

  • @SonjaMorrison-i7j
    @SonjaMorrison-i7j Месяц назад +10

    Elon is Trump’s new Giuliani

    • @soutteruk1
      @soutteruk1 Месяц назад

      Carlo Maria Giulini?

  • @lukepoot347
    @lukepoot347 Месяц назад +6

    Looking at the photo of Wellby makes my stomach turn.

  • @AndrewMcColl
    @AndrewMcColl Месяц назад +5

    Hey now! NZ's pharma advertising is nowhere near as wacky as what gets served up in America, and it's one ad per break, at most.

  • @Taneehl
    @Taneehl Месяц назад +2

    One also has to consider all the voter purging, gerrymandering, ballot refusal, and bomb threats and other shenanigans that helped MAGA-reps ‘win’.

  • @judycater2832
    @judycater2832 Месяц назад +2

    Oh God, please not allowing presidents to serve more than two terms. 😮 Fortunately amending our constitution is complex and I doubt it could even get through Congress let alone ratification by 2/3s of the states. And yes. Americans can’t have nice things anymore, nor do we deserve to. 😢

  • @urbanimage
    @urbanimage Месяц назад +6

    Ian was certainly doing his best to spin Charles and William coining it as somehow saving us humble folk money. Can't say I'm terribly convinced.

    • @Morinaka25
      @Morinaka25 Месяц назад +4

      You'd think he'd be a bit more critical of the Duchy, particularly as in the recent Eye 1634 'Pass The Duchy' piece about the feudal actions of the Duchy of Cornwall in the Scilly Isles. They even quoted small parts of a speech from Lord Berkeley in the Lords, who suggested the Duchys be nationalised.

    • @urbanimage
      @urbanimage Месяц назад +2

      @@Morinaka25 I wasn't surprised. It doesn't come across in the Eye, but Ian Hislop is a dyed-in-the-wool monarchist at heart.

  • @eshaibraheem4218
    @eshaibraheem4218 Месяц назад +1

    Many thanks.

  • @mandylavida
    @mandylavida Месяц назад +5

    Welby should be gaoled for his complicity. I cried all the way through this story. I hope God will NOT forgive him.

    • @R08Tam
      @R08Tam Месяц назад

      god doesn't exist

  • @jonnylumberjack6223
    @jonnylumberjack6223 Месяц назад +6

    On election day, the question "did Biden drop out" surged on search engines. That's quite informative.

  • @Maya-uq7tc
    @Maya-uq7tc Месяц назад +6

    it's all money and sycophancy

  • @RachelDavies-wn7ir
    @RachelDavies-wn7ir Месяц назад +5

    Is tax paid on the income from the Duchies of Cornwall and Lancaster?

    • @urbanimage
      @urbanimage Месяц назад +8

      Not much, it seems. Both Duchies are exempt from a number of businesses taxes. They do not pay corporation tax or capital gains tax, and inheritance tax is not paid when they are passed down the royal line of succession.

  • @daimonos418
    @daimonos418 Месяц назад

    Thank you

  • @kerryburns-k8i
    @kerryburns-k8i Месяц назад +6

    Welby will go to Hell, but he won't get near the fire for vicars.

  • @melodymacken9788
    @melodymacken9788 Месяц назад +2

    Excellent. Hope Welby called the Police on himself.

  • @alphabetaxenonzzzcat
    @alphabetaxenonzzzcat Месяц назад +2

    "Orange Man Bad - Part 2" jokes coming up from The Eye. 😉

  • @MARTINA-gc3tq
    @MARTINA-gc3tq Месяц назад

    Most legal brains fully understand why the Supreme Court said that the constitution amendments do not allow abortions. It is a matter for the state legislature.

  • @Visherex
    @Visherex Месяц назад +3

    This is my beacon in dark times 😂

  • @matttaylor308
    @matttaylor308 Месяц назад +5

    On the Duchies of Cornwall & Lancaster, it's probably also worth asking about how money paid to them is re-invested. I seem to remember that the Duchy of Cornwall has at least indicated that it doesn't invest abroad & focuses on the improvement of the properties owned, and in many cases the rents paid by both the public and public bodies are notably below market value compared to if, as Hislop says, some oligarch or foreign pension fund owned them.

  • @charlesflouvat1829
    @charlesflouvat1829 Месяц назад +2

    Were the bookies, more accurate than the polls?

  • @helenswan705
    @helenswan705 Месяц назад +4

    Yeah, I thought I respected Welby - he even featured in Big Issue!! - till I heard he aimed to suppress the child abuse 'until he retired'. Totally disgusting, but in the true tradition of the church. Except, it's not what jesus would do, is it?

    • @janetbarkwith
      @janetbarkwith Месяц назад

      "Suffer the little children to come unto me" Oh - unless they happen to be victims of my church; then they can just sod off, because I couldn't give a monkey's.

  • @Coops5361
    @Coops5361 Месяц назад +1

    c28% vote share was an emphatic win? If ths is the case then I hope you say the same with Labour in the UK.
    If not, why not?

  • @soton5teve
    @soton5teve 22 дня назад

    Petition
    Review of the Royal Duchies, Crown estate and sovereign grant
    To carry out a full and comprehensive review of the Crown estate, royal duchies and the sovereign grant. This is in light of recent reports about the large rental income made from Duchies of Lancaster and Cornwall renting land to the NHS and the armed forces.

  • @JonniePolyester
    @JonniePolyester Месяц назад +2

    I think I might be a C of E atheist too! 😂

  • @dakiblabla
    @dakiblabla Месяц назад +2

    No. It's Citizen Kane.

  • @sisiphas
    @sisiphas Месяц назад +3

    You guys are a wee bit over-privileged :)

  • @JamesMc2051
    @JamesMc2051 Месяц назад

    Trump vs Obama does have a ring to it.

  • @janeroyce6568
    @janeroyce6568 Месяц назад

    Time to watch Peter Serafinovitch doing sassy trump again.

  • @Seal0626
    @Seal0626 Месяц назад +1

    37:18 excuse me, _Rhodesia?_

    • @jimbobeire
      @jimbobeire Месяц назад +3

      Yes, very odd. Francis Wheen would have been in his early 20s when that country changed its name to Zimbabwe.

    • @BanjoLuke1
      @BanjoLuke1 Месяц назад +1

      Very odd, indeed. It grates rather to hear it described so. Zimbabwe was the correct name from April 1980 and Smyth moved there in '84.
      The only people I knew who still called it Rhodesia beyond about 1981 were former bush fighters who had come to the UK.
      Everyone else called it Zimbabwe; rightly so.
      Wheen may be confused about dates.

  • @carontownsend9890
    @carontownsend9890 Месяц назад +1

    I enjoyed this and found it interesting but even though you are clearly reining in your disdain of the "common man" and their horrible populist opinions it is still discernible.

  • @AlfriedKrupp-jr2bd
    @AlfriedKrupp-jr2bd Месяц назад

    Ian Hislop hit the nail on the head on the issue of the lands of the Duchy, wasn't a big surprise to me either.

  • @jainjain1258
    @jainjain1258 Месяц назад +1

    You don’t have a clue. Politics of Contempt. Yeah you think you’re hilarious you are but not in the way you think. Smug & Wrong.

  • @joseph_donovan
    @joseph_donovan Месяц назад

    Jesus wept!

    • @carolthomas8528
      @carolthomas8528 Месяц назад

      You fail to let us know what Jesus is weeping about .

  • @alphabetaxenonzzzcat
    @alphabetaxenonzzzcat Месяц назад

    So - The Eye is commentating on Big Pharma now, but are overlooking a certain recent addition to the Big Pharma outlet?

    • @Bloodlyshiva
      @Bloodlyshiva Месяц назад +1

      ????

    • @alphabetaxenonzzzcat
      @alphabetaxenonzzzcat Месяц назад +2

      @@Bloodlyshiva The one that the late BBC radio present Lisa Shaw took. I find it interesting that The Eye commented on the MMR one during the 2000s - but seems blind to this situation.

    • @jimpaddy79
      @jimpaddy79 Месяц назад +5

      @@alphabetaxenonzzzcatI still don’t understand what your talking about.

    • @GenoAtkins
      @GenoAtkins Месяц назад +1

      @@jimpaddy79he’s a vaccine skeptic and hasn’t realised that the Eye renounced its position on the MMR vaccine after Andrew Wakefield was exposed as a fraud.

    • @keithsquawk
      @keithsquawk Месяц назад

      @@alphabetaxenonzzzcat what 'situation'?
      Many, many basic meds can cause bad reactions in a very few people.
      How many people died during Covid from quack medicine and standard anti-vax rubbish?
      I bet you believe the MMR rubbish, too.

  • @dot2562
    @dot2562 Месяц назад

    Banter curry

  • @rathnaitmullen8541
    @rathnaitmullen8541 Месяц назад

    Good riddance! 0:14

  • @michaeljefferson4186
    @michaeljefferson4186 Месяц назад

    Crown Estate: can't be George I in 1706 - Queen Anne. On checking it's 1760 ... and Geo. III.

  • @benwilson6145
    @benwilson6145 Месяц назад

    george bush la bussiere

  • @gerarddearie-zd2gb
    @gerarddearie-zd2gb Месяц назад +7

    Abortion to most people is quite a distant issue, the economy is not.

    • @moodyonroody5313
      @moodyonroody5313 Месяц назад

      Also what about all this harmful gender nonsense experimented on actual born children?

    • @MaisieSqueak
      @MaisieSqueak Месяц назад +17

      So lets just ignore the very serious, but Irrelevant to YOU, issue and concentrate on ourselves... A true right wing supporter.

    • @auroraalpha34
      @auroraalpha34 Месяц назад

      Jokes on them, Harris had an 85 page dossier on her economic plans. Trump has broad populist tariffs that everyone with a basic education knows will dramatically increase costs for average people

    • @SN-sz7kw
      @SN-sz7kw Месяц назад +10

      Ignorant isn’t strong enough to describe that comment. Cruel, callous, or perhaps just the mindset of someone who supports rape & votes easily for an abuser & rapist.

    • @leeshapon
      @leeshapon Месяц назад +10

      If by “most people” you mean men, then sure. For women it’s-for obvious reasons-quite relevant

  • @humphrey4976
    @humphrey4976 Месяц назад

    The ladies assessment of rogan podcasts and American media is totally wrong

  • @leeshapon
    @leeshapon Месяц назад

    3:25 she didn’t do ‘that bad’? 15 million democrats stayed home lol

  • @frederickobengcudjoe140
    @frederickobengcudjoe140 Месяц назад +3

    Appalling that you call countries that have gained their independence as colonies.
    Why would you even use such words?... Disgusting

    • @Pippins666
      @Pippins666 Месяц назад

      Then don't follow a satirical magazine

    • @frederickobengcudjoe140
      @frederickobengcudjoe140 Месяц назад

      Hiding behind satire? ..... Such obvious reasoning.

    • @Pippins666
      @Pippins666 Месяц назад

      @@frederickobengcudjoe140 if you think a throw away line about "the colonies" is disgusting, then you had best stop watching television or the Internet because you will be seriously disgusted, Tunbridge Wells or not

    • @frederickobengcudjoe140
      @frederickobengcudjoe140 Месяц назад

      Throw away line? We'll that's exactly my bone of contention.. Making it seem normal just because everyone says, whether on TV or wherever doesn't make it seem right.
      Those countries are not colonies... Period. Whichever forum it is said at won't make it right.