117: A New Pod For Britain
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- Опубликовано: 9 июл 2024
- All the fallout from last week's election, what the New Boys and Girls will bring to government (and the Old New Boys And Girls too) and what bunfights the Page 94 team are looking forward to in this parliament. With Ian, Helen, Adam and Andy.
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To have lived in this country for the last 14 years and to still have voted conservative (as millions did) is, for me, truly incomprehensible and disturbing.
well. if all you watch is the BBC it's easy to be misled.
@@Anwarboy786well you would have to share credit with the Telegraph and Daily Mail too. There’s only so much a public broadcaster can do 😂
Laura Cu#tsberg, who definitely isn't biased towards the Tories 😉
It’s long term loyalty though isn’t it? People voted for them because they remember their grandpa talking about Churchill as a kid… it’s not a situation sensitive or rational decision
@@minui8758 is it though? Is that a reason to justify voting for incompetent politicians who don’t have your best interests at heart? “My family voted for this party that has torn up our future and my kid’s future but my parents and grandparents voted for them so I will too.” That’s insane.
I've been continuously enraged by tories repeatedly saying that Labour didn't win by a significant margin. Funny how less than 5% was a huge mandate for brexit. Capitalisation is deliberate.
The hypocrisy is rife :(
If Brexit was done on a constituency basis. That 5% would’ve equated to a landslide. The 2019 election proved this, as Boris effectively span it into a single issue election based on “getting Brexit done”, and temporarily turned many red wall constituencies Tory.
no one suggested a mandate just a win same with scot indie. when big questions are asked the public scientifically produce the best answer but this must be dependant on info bias, lies and corruption but the safeguard is that both sides can lie
I really enjoyed any Tory Minister leaving tbh. Was also lovely to see the Victorian Pinocchio losing his seat too.
Only 6.1% of the electorate voted for reform compared to 6.0% that previously voted for reform's previous incarnation, UKIP which says the far right vote has actually changed very little.
And 15% of the electorate voted ukip in 2015. Not much has changed. What we have learnt is that bigotry, racism and general political illiteracy is spread thinly over a wide area.
I don't think that is accurate, didn't they get about 14% of the vote?
@@greabo9544 One of the reasons why I'm glad I can cook. I would never dream of using any of the delivery sites. They also rip-off the restaurants. Money for doing nothing except fund a bank of servers.
Edit: Not sure what fast food delivery has to do with my comment about the electorate, but each to their own.
@@paddymeboy They got 14% of the vote, but in terms of the ELECTORATE they got 6.1% (not everyone voted) the difference is important as using the higher figure is a misrepresentation of the true facts.
In France the percentage of the electorate supporting a candidate is considered.
Are they thinking of releasing people early from Prison to make room for all the Tories that should be in prison? Plus the occasional Member of the HoL, like Michelle Mone.
The garbage cart has been to 10 Downing St to remove the rubbish. 😱
I'm expecting Private Eye to be the closest to a functioning opposition as we can get until Labour inevitably become their own opposition.
Intriguing comment!
The 5 independents and 4 Greens will be opposition from the left, along with rebels in the inside.
Re people saying they hate the Tories, but couldn't vote Labour. That was similar to a number of my friends still living in Brighton and Hove, during the 2010s. They couldn't vote Labour, so were going to vote Green! When I stopped laughing, they didn’t believe me when I said many of their policies are further 'left' than Labour. The residents found out that the Greens were not as warm, cuddly and competent as they thought when they ran the Council! When it cost much more to 'mow' the grass in city parks by using sheep, than a few gardeners on mowers, some balance and cost effectiveness needs to be considered.
But these people are idiots. How can you ".not vote for xxxxx"? If just tell yih that these people are morons and their political opinion means nothing. One should vote, during each election independently, on what is important and matters at that time.
Example; Churchill was considered a bit of an arse but he was great during a war. Doesn't mean you'd vote for the same person outside of war. That should apply during every election.
Labour are either the latest reincarnation of Lenin or are going to borrow Liz Truss’ copy of Maggie Thatcher’s handbook. I’ve heard them accused of being both. I’m guessing they are going to be somewhere in the middle.
When the BBC election night team announced Jeremy Corbyn’s win studio guests ‘Barons’ Kinnock and Mandelson had suddenly left the table…
I know that Private Eye do not fall into this category, but why do most people appear to have forgotten how disastrous Michael Gove was as Education Secretary? Hopefully there's a pit of Hell reserved for him where he has to learn every poem ever written by anyone, anywhere by rote for eternity (obviously with weekly competence tests).
When does accountability start - I lost 6 friends to Covid because of Sunak and Johnson.
It won't, the Labour party had the same line as the tories
@@steverooke1717 Oh do put a sock in it.
Starmer was named captain hindsight because he called for more stringent measures to prevent more cases. Which is a weird nickname to call somebody who predicts what will happen in the future, but soit.
Labour didn't oppose the weak things the tories did do, to not cause strife & be supportive of the medical establishment. A bit like not making oppositional hay out of the Ukrainian war.
And accountability should definitely start with the claw-back of the PPE billions, something that i've read Labour wants to do & that is a great big effing difference.
Only weakminded ignorant unthinking bleeeeeeeeeeebs keep repeating the lie that all the parties are all the same, instructed as they are by their bot-bosses to suppress the vote through apathy for their millionaire donors.
@@steverooke1717 But Labour weren't in government, dear.
@@SuezWSuezW yes, I know that👍 why point is there won't be any accountability under the tories🙂
Did labour support eat out to help out?
Like him or loathe him, Stephen Fling would have been a serious loss to the house
I'd forgotten what it felt like to have a govt that seems like it actually wants to try and make things better. I have my doubts about how much they can achieve, but even for them to have that ambition - it feels good.
Loved watching Jacob Rees-Mogg & Thérèse Coffey lose their seats, but the highlight of the night for me was Liam Fox. I was a little sorry that our boundaries were redrawn, so my vote didn't count against him, but he's gone 🎉
Was shocked by the lack of coverage around Tunbridge Wells, my constituency. I am a Labour member and voted Lib Dem through gritted teeth. And lo we ousted the Tories. Also no discussion on tactical success, which is why the Lib Dem’s have many seats
Love the podcast. Thank you for the upload
Another expert appointment - Peter Hendy. Expect a pragmatic approach to rail reform, and a potential revisiting of hs2 between Birmingham and Crewe.
Really? I had lost all hope about HS2. Starmer wasn't a fan and Sunak sold off the land and there's no money for anything! I thought HS2 was dead! Please tell me I'm wrong!
@@adrianthoroughgood1191 I don't think the land has been sold off yet. Not sure about Starmer, but all the regional mayors say the section from Birmingham to Crewe is vital, as does Hendy and anyone else who understands the problems HS2 was resolving. Stopping HS2 south of the biggest bottleneck (Stafford) is a reflection of Sunak's short-termism.
@@adrianthoroughgood1191 still lots of HS2 work going on around Birmingham
@@MiniLifeCrisis Sunak only cancelled the parts beyond Birmingham
I love the comedy candidates - the best of British politics
I’d be interested how the 22yr old MP gets on
Wish my constituency had a fun candidate, the only non major party was an indy running on "ending the trans agenda" whatever that means
I'm surprised Downing Street was fit to move into for its new residents.
I'd have thought that they would have needed to send in Rentakill, one of those companies that cleans buildings after a mass murder, and a bloody Exorcist to get rid of the ghosts of Maggie Thatcher and Enoch Powell.
The biggest missed opportunity of the evening was when Truss went missing before her loss was announced and they seemed to be trying to find her... all I wanted was to hear someoneone in the hall to shout "Check the Fridge!"
😂😂😂 nice one 👍
Re Emily Thornberry. I'm really disappointed that she didn't get a position. She's one of the long serving stalwarts of the current Labour party, she is very able and dedicated and should surely have been given a position. I'm guessing that the spat she had with Sir Kier blotted her copy book😮
Thornberry is irrevocably tainted, in centrist Labour eyes, by her association with Corbyn's shadow cabinet.
Just watched the full Andrew Bridgen song, it's in a class of its own...
That... That was incredible, i cant belive i missed that.
Words cannot to it justice.
Oh dear😂😂😂
If I had to pick one moment it would have to be the demise of Jacob Rees-Mogg and him desperately quoting "Chitty Chitty Bang Bang" as he tried to dodge the media.
One issue to watch is Gaza. The West Midlands MPs, all stalwarts of the Labour right, lost huge percentages of their votes and are all now in marginal seats. Wes Streeting’s less than 600 vote victory can be largely attributed to the same issue. JonAshworth’s loss ditto. Will Labour Friends of Israel, which must have expected to have virtually all of the new intake sign up with them, ever publish a ‘parliamentary supporters’ list again? Is Emily Thornbury carrying the can for the ‘kill-em-all’ policy before Sir Keir u-turned? I don’t expect the party to suddenly become humanitarians, but they will have to tread much more carefully than they did pre-election.
I really hope they listen to this message. But the next election will be 5 years away, and hopefully by then the Gaza crisis will be long in the past.
@@adrianthoroughgood1191 In one form or another, the Gaza issue has been going on for decades. In one form or another, it'll still be there in 2029.
Farage is like Corbyn, very good for rallies. Parliament has protocols and arcane but necessary structures, which will shackle him.
Are we all going to get a free sample of gold wallpaper? If not, why not?
Just listened to that song by Andrew Bridgen... Holy hell that was amazing. Absolute insanity.
Drax??? A Bond villain was an MP?
A template for a Bond villain perhaps?
@@hilarykirkby4771 was he the one still living off slave-trading cash?
Way worse than a Bond villan. A genuine slave owning family offspring, still living on the profits (allegedly).
One of the extremely wealth that needs taxing heavily on owned assets.
Ian Fleming hated his father and also the architect Goldfinger
@@user-sd3ik9rt6d Interesting, thanks!
A *big* part of Mogg losing his seat is that the catchment area for Bristol now covers Keynsham, so a cultural shift is happening where increasing numbers of people from the larger city now live in the surrounding region, and bring their voting tendency with them.
It probably didn't hurt that Dan Norris was the old Wansdyke MP so he had a degree of "brand recognition".
@@cheekychappy1234 No doubt. But the rural landowner/farmer vote that has returned Mogg so strongly is changing as Bristol's prices push workers into North Somerset, South Gloucestershire, etc.
Feel like the peerage for Hilary Cass could end up being a mistake, it's not reported on by our media ofc but the Cass report isn't as masterfully put together as the MSM likes to pretend. It's received a lot of criticism from academics in the same field. Although it's not like the Tories or Labour give a shit.
The whole report has been thoroughly discredited by pretty much every other medical organisation outside of the UK, and the fact that Badenoch boasted on Twitter that it would never have happened unless the Tories stuffed all the government agencies with transphobes should be indication enough that this is another culture war issue that Labour decided they would align with Tories on.
I was quite surprised by my area result. We had ex transport secretary Chris Grayling in Epsom (although he didnt rerun). It has been tory every election since the seat was created and the lib dem won.
But a peerage…….. he must have some deeeeeeeep shit to have been preferred so frequently despite his lack of obvious talent. Failure after epic inglorious failure.
building houses is not the problem its the owners that are
Is correcting the listing of the houses of Parliament towards those over full government benches what is meant by levelling up?
Oh, same shoot, different day. Have we had a single labour `promise` that hasn't been disproven or reneged upon?
timpson a great post for prison rehab
10 years eh?
I look forward to the changing of the guard,
not only in Whitehall, but also at the Eye, over that time.
mind. I don't know how HIGNFY will do without Ian and Paul
as the real anchors of that show.
the Eye I'm sure will be just fine...if no media conglomerate
or some too-rich-to-be-smart billionaire doesn't buy it and
"shape it to his vision".
I hope it will be able to resist the lure of cold hard cash.
before i die may i speak the truth. this world sucks
That Andrew Bridgen music video is really something special, what an utter narcissist lol
Voted for Labour. And the poor will suffer.
Ah, Helen has shone the light on Worcestershire Parkway. I used it for the first time last month and did wonder what was its raison d'etre as it's a rather large station and equally large car park in the middle of fields. Lovely view of the Malverns whilst waiting for the 09:21 train to Paddington which was 12 mins late.
freshers week in gov
That "mighty" Andrew Bridgen song is truly awful, but I have heard a post-election song that I found on RUclips. Roll Call Of The Ex-Tories as the name says lists all the Conservatives who lost their seat (2 versions)
I would like private eye to caste its beady eye over the israel gaza conflict, but perhaps that would be x certificate
Interesting how this lot too hardly mention the Green Party.
Liz Truss is a 'popular conservative' apparently.
Keir starmer the new mr blobby.
:OOOOOOOO
Expertise is....... one way to describe Hillary Cass.....
Aaaa reeepppelllent liiitlle man, reeeeepuuulsive
Looks like someone from the League of Gentlemen
Anyone but sunak😅
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PE is becoming as banal as their targets.
Have you got some good news for me?
I can't listen to this self congratulatory tripe anymore.
Not a very popular channel.
8:31 maybe she wasn’t a total graceless loser when this was recorded, but she’s been going around whinging on TV about how _actually_ it’s the voters who are wrong lol (&said she voted for a ceasefire in november which is just a bold faced lie)
Been asleep, has Michael Gove been arrested yet?
Terrible take in regards to Cass. The report is widely regarded as Incompetently and misleadingly produced by serious academics in the field.
Private Eye determined to make the same mistake again with trans people that it made mocking the gay rights movement in the 1970s …
Which is why the WORDING in the Labour manifesto is important.
It's something like; we will implement any _scientific_ recommendations.
Legalese...
@@LeafHuntressreally? You think they are only pretending to support Cass?
Joke FINISHED union 👎🏻🇬🇧
🏴☮️🇪🇺
15 mins in I can't even listen to this unintelligent un informed drival anymore. Shocked actually to not get something better from Hislop! Maybe he saves that for HIGNFY?
Drivel
same
Spelling, Mike: drivel.
@@eshaibraheem4218 Come on, he's more used to writing in Cyrillic.
So, the first 15 minutes focus on which moments of the election results were the panellists' favourites. What about it is 'unintelligent' or 'uninformed', and how would you have done it better? Perhaps you're just a troll?
Why can’t I buy private eye in Australia?
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