I don't know how you came up with the idea that veganism comes from western cultures. Look at India, Malaysia and Indonesia, there are plenty vegan people for houndreds of years.
white people have to pretend they invented everything to overcompensate for being so destructive. they still cling to colonialism myths, they think they are just go colonize Mars after they destroy this planet, but they forget they need people to steal from and enslave for that colonialism thing to work, and Mars is kind of without an indigenous people.
Sanerah also the mayans and Aztecs. Also the diets of the gladiators and other historic fighters lived on whole food and plant based food bc it made them stronger, less sluggish and less foggy in the brain and made them quicker and overall better warriors. Im not condoning violence..obviously lol but it is the most sustainable lifestyle and food and nutritional source humans are designed to consume. What did it for me was learning about the human body and learning about what foods are used for our design. Why would you consume something not made for our bodies and mind? Why do you think humans suffer such terrible health consequences from their diets?
The problem of what to do with the animals is one that only appears because of your hypothetical scenario of going vegan from one day to the other. Thats not going to happen, thus the animals will be "used up" and the overall amount of animals slowly reduces with falling demand. Also you skipped the whole moral question, which I can understand as this is a science channel, but it is still important to consider when you talk about unemployment. You wouldnt make the same argument for farms in 18th century USA depending on slaves to stay relevant. Something everyone should remember when talking about veganism is the exact definition: "Veganism is a way of living which seeks to exclude, *as far as is possible and practicable*, all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose." If you cant survive without killing animals, you CAN eat meat and other animal products. This is something people seem to willfully ignore while refering to the futility of suffering. The problem is not some sheep who eat grass or some farmers in africa who use their animals to stay alive, it is giant factory farms which keep and slaughter animals in the most cruel ways imagineable, to produce an underpriced product which on top of that is unhealthy. And again on top of that comes that lots of the food produced this way, just goes to waste! Making all the suffering, all the damage to the environment totally useless.
And when she said that not all vitamins and minerals can be acquired, The only one that can't be acquired without supplementation is B12. She refuses to talk about how we supplement our livestock with nutrients like B12 and refuses to talk about how we also supplement plant based milks with B12. And from an evolutionary perspective B12 comes from the dirt so its not in meat or plants, it was on the soil on our plants and water that we ate and drank thousands of years ago. She also doesn't say that doctors recommend all people, meat eating and plant based, to take B12 supplements.
Thanks for saying just what I was thinking! The world isn't going vegan overnight, so worrying about what would happen to the farm animals and related occupations is a waste of time.
This is so true lol sarcasm!! We should definitely not let these poor animals die a normal death, we should just kill them and give them painful deaths instead. Yes, what good humans we are!
@@RoxOn413 I guess you wouldn't, actually. There's no dignity and peace over the death of wild animals. The lucky ones are taken by a predator, but those who dies of sickness and starvation over the course of a harsh winter would probably happily switch places with a well fed cow or pig who gets slaughtered quick and humane. Vegans generally romanticise nature and wild life, and projects their own emotions and views on life over to animals and nature. First of all this is a symptom of a modern man and his or hers increased distance to nature and how and where our food come from.
Dani J. Roberts, The local cows and chickens cause the same environmental and health problems as every other cow and chicken in the world. You're missing the whole point of the video.
Cows are still gonna be releasing methane gas when they release waste products. Their high levels of saturated fats are still gonna heighten the chances of type 2 diabetes because it coats the cells from the sugar in the bloodstream. The fats are also going to cause blood problems, heart problems, and possible cancer issues. These issues have nothing to do with animal welfare. It's about what cows are on a component level, and there's really no way to change that.
susanna lung yes they'd still release methane it has only become such a problem because there so many of them, why are there so many of them? Because we make them reproduce over and over and over so everyone can use them and eat them. Naturally there would not be this many.
veganism did not "take root" in western culture, nor did it start there! there are whole religions and philosophies in asia (especially India) that are vegans and have existed for millennia 😒😒😒😒
Please don't steer this to religious matters... can't we enjoy the benefits that it's give us all... and who care where it came from ...I care that it's good...
I'm sure you mean buddhism because that is the only religious teach people that they shouldn't eat meat. They are vegetarian not vegan and usually only monks are vegetarian. Normal people don't need to be vegetarian everyday. Buddha who is the God people pray was relied on goat milk to live. This comment is so dumb. I can't believe people like this (too many dumb vegans). Vegan is something I like to call "First World's Problem". If you suffer from hunger like African people, I'm sure you would do anything to survive and would not think about where the food come from.
They do 'exploit' animals by drinking milk, and using it to make yoghurt and cheese. Many Hindus also don't find issue with eating some meats, usually just chicken. And monks are taught not to kill, but should eat whatever is given to them as alms, even if it's meat. The Mahayana Buddhists of Tibet regularly eat meat.
I’m vegan for the animals, environment, and health. It’s not really that big of a change, though I didn’t consume a ton of animal products before going plant based. I thought I’d be eating salads all the time but I rarely eat them, and I’m also glutenfree, yet I don’t feel limited. There are soooo many healthy, easy, delicious recipes out there to try out. I used to not care about/disliked cooking but now I love it✌️♥️🌱🌍
RUclips is a great resource for vegan cooking ideas. I do eat a large salad every day, but I also eat a wide variety of other foods on my vegan diet. My variety in my diet has expanded since I switched.
The idea that grazing animals keep biodiversity is just pure nonsense, and jobs in animal farming would go diverted to other industries like that happened in the past.
Luis GO V exactly what I was going to say... the meat dairy and leather alternatives industry would expand significantly if everyone was vegan: therefore boom! Thousands, millions of new jobs in plant based dairy, alternative meat and alternative leather (mushroom leather, cork..) industries !
4 YEARS AGO i was diagnosed with IBS (Irritable Bowel Syndrome), my doctors said it was genetic and also triggered by mental stress, my family said that it all came from inside my mind, that i had nothing. My doctors prescribed me a lot of pills and restricted a lot of foods from my normal diet stating that these foods were bad for my colon, but could still eat white sif cheese and a lot of meats, but no beans and almost all fruits were forbidden. Sometimes i felt relieved but eventually my symptoms would flare up. I struggled all of these years with this awful condition until i searched IBS in RUclips and found a lot of people that claim they found a cure for their colon problems through a vegan diet. Of course i was very skeptical at first, but after trying a vegan diet for a month and making some adjustments here and there, i can proudly say i am cured, no more stomach sounds, diarrhea, no more heartburn, nothing. Even now i eat almost everyday beans, food my doctors said to me i can not eat anymore in my life. The doctors told me i had to live my whole life taking pills and alleviating the symptoms of IBS, now I know better. Now my wife after seeing how i cured my health issues and how my body changed physically i am very lean now, hell even i have a six pack now which i never had in my life, now she only eats meat on social occasions. Nobody can tell me now a vegan diet is bad for your health or even for the world, the problem is people get very aggressive and defensive when you tell them their food choices are wrong. I hope my message helps somebody Veganism cured my colon issues and now i don't take not even 1 pill. Nobody told me nothing, all of this comes from my own experience... btw, when have you guys ever heard to eat some red meat, pork, ham or take some milk to cure any disease???
Alonso Fernandez wow this is amazing! I'm so glad that you're doing better. I was actually quite surprised to read that your doctors allowed cheese but no fruits. That pretty weird considering how troublesome lactose can be for stomach problems.
Liz B if someone's sexual preferences included rape then that would be wrong, wouldn't it? Though it's a preferences it would be wrong because it's taking away someone else's choices. Just like that, eating meat takes away an animal's choice to live. So how can this be right?
Liz B we are not superior. Just because we can conduct a few experiments, build buildings and fly around does not make us superior. We are no one to decide who lives and who dies and we are no one to justify hurting a being that doesn't deserve to be killed. Without our weapons or our machines, stranded in the wild we are no one. Without our knives we can't cut threw flesh, without our guns we can't hunt and animal, without our farms and cages we would barely get meat. In the event of a tsunami it's the animals that run to safety while it's us the "superior ones" that require some machines to warn us. This is just like any other calamity. If you live in an area where the vegetables are scarce or you have financial troubles it is understandable that you'll eat meat to survive. But to go out of your way to hurt, rape and kill an animal just for taste is cruel. We can't use us being superior as a reason to cause harm, anymore than a man can use him having superior strength to a woman as a reason to sexually assaulted her.
Hi, some good bits in this but also some incorrect facts. Sheep have contributed to the destruction of sapling trees and plants in Scotland along with the red deer. If the wolf came back and sheep agriculture was removed, the environment would return back to how it was before man which is better for the world in general - all in balance. I am vegan for several years now and haven't been healthier in my whole life - the only way to save the planet currently is to go vegan, as we cant sustain our growth and control our emissions for much longer. Watch What the Health and Plant Based News 'Vegan'
"the only way to save the planet currently is to go vegan" Wrong, a far better and more effective method is to choose not to have kids. It's humans that are causing climate change, not animals. We only have so many animals precisely because there are so many humans. Significantly reduce the human population and the problem is solved.
dmike3507 Haha. Would you rather never have kids, or just go vegan. Having kids is an actual human need, those who are unable to have kids go into depression and suffer. Plus,you would be depriving the world of potential by reducing the number of new minds in comparison to the old people in a society. If your thinking is correct , then that means you would think a major Epidemic will be good for the world, since that too would reduce the number of humans. Not having kids or killing the live humans to reduce the human population is a horrible idea that will cause human suffering, going vegan will not cause humans to suffer, but will even solve the food crisis and allow all humans to have a steady food source that we can maintain.
Abdelrahman Mohamed I would rather never have kids, but that's easy for me to say because I don't like kids to begin with. People completely ignore how massive of a burden children are on society. Estimates show that each kid costs about $300,000 in a lifetime including all food, healthcare, clothing, toys, daycare, etc. etc. People go into depression BECAUSE of kids, there is actual evidence to demonstrate this, but no parent would ever admit that. Having kids is only a human need to an extent, some people should still have kids in order to prevent a rapid population decrease, that would obviously be bad; I'm merely suggesting that we have fewer kids, like they do in Europe, to ensure a slow population decline, not a rapid one. Going vegan will cause both humans AND animals to suffer. A huge percent of the world's population depends upon livestock to live, they don't have the technological capacity to adapt to a different lifestyle. You obviously don't live in a third world country. It will also cause animals to suffer because what are we going to do with all those BILLIONS of domesticated animals that cannot survive in the wild? We would either need a massive amount of money to sustain them or they will all slowly starve to death. If you can find solutions to both of those problems I'd be glad to hear them, but given the shallowness of your response I find that very hard to believe. You seem to have not thought anything out.
dmike3507 dmike3507 kids are a human need, but I do agree with having fewer kids. Having fewer kids will only delay an inevitable problem, not solve it. And even with our current consumption rates the world is still going into global warming, with a lot of natural habitats being lost for livestock. The only way this can be stopped using your method, is if we kill half the human population off, and even then the population would grow back up, and will face the same problem. The reality is, even if we stop having kids as much and maintain the current population count, we would still face global disasters due to pollution from livestock in a the hundreds of years to come. So you solution is not really a solution, it just delays the disaster. Now I will answer to your 2 problems. 1. Animals eat vegetation, so for a country to have livestock, it must able to feed them, which means it has the technology to sustain huge amounts of agriculture. All countries have crops that feed the population or they import it. The fact is, livestock uses water and vegetation in much larger quantities than humans. To give you a much smaller amount of food in return. I am a medical student, and I can tell you in very simple words, that the higher you go in the food chain, the less efficient you food is. Meaning, if you were to eat the cow's food rather than the cow itself, it would be much more effective. You can search for it. So in short:going vegan, would mean the end of human starvation. 2. You really think that the whole world will do it over night???? Get real. It will happen slowly until eventually all livestock has been stopped or reduced. I think this answers both of you very shallow and poorly thought problems. P.s i live in egypt. Which is pretty close to third world country.
1. You do get every nutrient on a vegan diet, apart from B12 and D, which are not obtained from food, vegan or not. B12 comes from bacteria in soil/fresh water, and D from the sun. 2. You forgot to mention that vegan diets contain lots of beans and legumes, which are awesome. 3. You highlighted all of the very real issues caused by animal agriculture, which are of the highest importance: the environment, climate change, land use etc. And there's far more where that came from when you discuss pollution and antibiotic resistant disease. 4. The range of criticisms against veganism were fairly silly, based on the unrealistic premise that we have to all go vegan overnight, and frankly self-serving in order to make the video seem more "balanced." A cultural and employment disruption is a temporary hiccup, and one worth having to combat climate change, factory abused animals and the chronic disease epidemic. Tobacco farmers had to get new jobs because guess what? Smoking causes lung cancer. Also, the point that some land could only be used for livestock farming is ultimately irrelevant: with all the land we are wasting now, we still produce enough food to feed 10-15 billion people. So we could use far less land, produce way more food, and still feed the entire world, while leaving those areas of barren land alone. If you're going to make videos about this, do rudimentary research. This is silly. You make such bold claims like "not all nutrients can be found on a vegan diet" without even looking into what nutrients those are, and where they really come from. I appreciate the positive information about veganism - climate change and all of these other issues cannot be ignored - but there's no reason to spread mis/disinformation just to make the video more appealing to a wider audience.
Human Condition Vitamin b12 is in red meat..... and you don’t know what the word every means. You can die on a vegan diet without vitamin b12 supplements.
It's incredible how seeming intelligent people enter a primitive defensive and aggressive mode when talking about vegans when they aren't one. Why can't people talk about things objectively and scientifically, it's pathetic that people feel they have to mock vegans if they aren't one. (I'm not)
Joseph X it's because vegans make them feel uncomfortable about the choices they make. A person just being vegan makes a non vegan think about why they're not and the reality of that conflicts with who they thought they were and they become hostile. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Holly, I am so dangerous, look out, I might hug a tree! In social science there is the concept of "white fragility", when a racist person gets triggered by their own racism, its why here in the US you frequently just don't discuss racism or face the triggering. I think with being vegan is the same, you say "I am vegan" and people over-react more than if you said "I am Hitler", if people know you are vegan they do horrible things, was just on a vlog where a mom was talking about her relatives were bragging they made her infant lick chicken, like who is depraved here, a vegan mom or someone that makes infants lick chicken?
veganism is like a religion to a lot of them im surrounded by them alot and all they like to talk about is being vegan and that everyone should be. I was vegetarian for 5 years but decided to start eating meat again which i only do occasionally, my girlfriends pescetarian (eats fish but not meat) so i usually just eat like her. I have nothing against vegans, vegan food is really nice but you dont see vegetarians ramming being veggie down everyones throat do you ? As for objectively and scientifically i dont know many that do that im sorry to say.
More like meat-eating is a religion. It's against every better logic and ignores all science, just like believing in an imaginary friend, or pretending earth is flat, because a book said so. And asking people to make compassionate choices and not murder animals, really isn't "ramming being veggie down everyones throat". In fact it's really just caring for animals. It's like people who aren't racist themself, or those who oppose racism and fight against it when they see it. Going along with something you consider as injustice, like slaughtering and torturing sentinent beings for pure pleasure really isn't any better than doing it yourself. So yeah, vegans kinda have to ask others to go vegan. It's just like a person fighting racism would ask a racist to stop being a racist, isn't it? Yet you wouldn't say he is "ramming not hating black people for no logical reasons down everyone throats". It's common to react to a well funded criticism towards your lifestyle in a defensive way though. You were really trained to do so. In facte the media is making vegans look like crazy shitheads who wanna take your meat away, when they just want a little more compassionate world lmao
I have never ever regretted going vegan. It's the best choice I've ever made, my life has turned upside down and I've never been as content and happy as I am now. There is no rational reason not to go vegan! Just give it a try ❤️
"...beer, cosmetics, sugar, condoms. Finding plant based alternatives isn't impossible but it wont happen overnight. " ... we already have plant based alternatives to every single one of these things. What.
Condoms are made from latex - animal byproduct latex, not the tree, natural gum latex. Its quite tough to find vegan condoms. Only one brand here in Slovenia and probably none in most countries.
All of the "problems" in this video are based on the fact that this would happen suddenly. Fortunately if the world did go vegan or more vegan, it wouldn't be overnight.
You’re right it can’t be overnight. Some guys I knew tried going vegan immediately but I think they were just trying to impress some girls. Of course they failed in a few days but because how they approached it wasn’t going to work and they weren’t really committed to that cause. I am an omnivore but if I had to go vegan I would make gradual changes in my diet over time in order to accept the changes better. Those guys failed because I made spaghetti and meatballs and chicken wings and they pounced on them two days into their challenge (which I didn’t know until they started chewing down then they began moaning that they failed).
Neil what about vitamin deficiencies like vitamin B12, and certain amino acid deficiencies (since plant proteins are nutritionally inferior in terms of amino acid content/profile)
@@LB-lb7pm b12 is produced by ubiquitous bacteria, so you're wrong. Also, there's a crap load of vegan b12 supplements out there. If you don't want to take any supplements, check out chlorella. 100% natural way of getting vegan b12.
@@doubledigga9538 Show me a way you can extract chlorella from the wild using easily available equipment ie a sieve, coffee filter. Do you find a pond and start sieving away? Or try to skim waves in the sea. It is absolute bollocks to easily obtain it. Then show me how you would go about purifying what you got with standard equipment like a saucepan. You can't f**king do it.
... "means that a vegan diet consist of JUST fruit, veggies, grains and nutts". You are being serious? "Just". This just go to show how the perception of a plant-based diet is flawed.
Lol yeah like there arnt things like bean tacos, mashed potatoes, all kinds of cereals/oatmeals with fruits, pasta, any number of vegetables, not to mention substitutes. Honestly i am more creative with my food than i ever was as a carnivore!
It’s sad that companies like bbc are supposed to report news and FACTS but because the animal product industry helps fund them the have a biased opinion just so they don’t get their funding cut.🙄
@DC 10o01 You do realize bigger countries are the ones fucking up the environment with the retarded idea of mono crop farming that has failed at every other point in history? Only a greedy moron forces farmers to grow one crop on the same farm land for years on end. It's widely known that you don't do that you kill the nutrients in the soil and get garbage crops with barely any nutrition. Why do you think American is so shitty?
The conversion to the vegan lifestyle will be a slow, gradual process, not something that will happen instantly. Most of those problems will not even exist. : )
True that! It feels like a lot of the 'arguments' carnists come up with put into a fancy video. Time and energy better spend on doing better research and stop eating animal products :)
Pointless examples shown here. It’s like saying “driving at speed is dangerous, but what would happen if we stopped travelling our car at 90mph IMMEDIATELY. It would be like driving into a brick wall and we would likely die from impact.” If the whole planet went vegan it would take a few generations, it would be very gradual. This is plenty of time to find alternatives for certain products/foods, and alternative ways to grow crops and use the land. The fact is filtering your protein through animals is massively inefficient. The animal/meat people consume eats 5 times as much plant matter as what it ultimately then produces as meat/flesh. We are taking huge huge amounts of grain/food away from starving countries to feed the livestock for meat. The facts of the matter are if we phased out animal agriculture we would - Massively slow down global warming. (Methane) Massively slow down deforestation (for grazing) Massively reduce - heart stacks/ strokes / cancer / diabetes / obesity/ MS / dementia. Massively reduce the totally unsustainable and unethical GIGANTIC levels of slaughter and cruelty that is happening every minute of every hour of every day around the world.
Where would those billions of farm animals go? If we have no use for them they would al, be killed, then you have huge piles of billions on dead animals around the globe.....
About a year ago we decided we would mostly eat vegan for various reasons, but turns out that "mostly" ended up being always because meat sort of turns my stomach now...
Faken Name, I don't think I was writing in code. Someone writes a positive comment about how a great decision has improved her life and two people reply with snarky comments belittling that decision. Seems a little overly defensive to me.
Vegan for years now.. it cured two of my hereditary heart conditions and now my mom is actually vegetarian to lessen hers. It's been great and I wouldn't go back to eating meat for anything.
Faken Name Google "vegan double cheese burger". They do exist ;) No need to enslave and kill animals, destroy the environment to eat delicious food and live a happy, healthy life!
Faken Name yo I know this comment was from a while ago but a completely plant based, scary realistic burger was created called beyond meat. It's way healthier for you and apparently it has the same taste so ya just saying there's tons of alternatives out there that are surprisingly good, there's no need to damage your health, the environment and kill animals just for the sake of taste
@@FoodieOmni We need to fix that problem aswell.Both are bad and lets first start with the ones we can fix by litteraly just changing what we eat( I know for some people it might not be possible but it is for most). Also since we make more plant food for just animals we eat that makes us use more pesticides and if we stoped producing animals the amount of pesticides would also decrease.
@@gaminggod2789 It is a myth that we use more crops to feed animals. We feed animals with the by-products from the plants used by humans. For example, soy meal is used as animal feed but soy meal is a by product of making oil for humans and factories. Soy oil is the most popular oil in the USA. No farmer will plant soy just to get soymeal. Same thing with corn.
Shes acting like everyone would go vegan overnight lol, cows arent gon be roaming around on the streets, because if people slowly transition into veganism the production rate of cow babies would go down. What is this weird logic. Strawmanning at its best EDIT: I know it's a hypothetical statement, but my point is that she's not talking about it like it is, and she's critizising veganism as a whole too.
I understand where you are coming from, I was thinking the same thing! Although she said that this would be the situation if 'the whole world turned vegan overnight'
It's a "what if" scenario. You can do that with absolutely anything - "What if [extremely unlikely scenario here]". It's not something that's going to happen, this video just shows what would change if that did happen. It can be interesting and informative, which is the purpose of this video. She even says in the video that this isn't something that's going to happen.
linasuperdina remember, humans are the reason why the population of cows is so high, we breed cows in order to get meat, cows are forced to have babies and they can't mate with male cows, the male cows serve purpose for sperm and after that serve no purpose for the meat industry since they don't make milk and there meat is not as good as the females. The cows are not only the result of inbreeding, chicken, sheep, lamb and even domesticated animals are in breed because companies make money out of them and we pay for it.
Veganism has made my life incredible. I have never been more thankful to be apart of a community that is so welcoming, kind and thoughtful. I was on a very dark path before, my life and outlook on life has completely changed. Thank you vegan community
Thijs Tharn huh? I mean as a technicality paying for those things does entail enslaving, torturing and killing animals? Is it wrong for people to point it out or is it too Politically correct for people?
Thijs Tharn what are you talking about? Majority of animals are tortured. They're caged and processed in factory farms, then brutally killed at the end of their young life at a mere 1 year old. They are kept from living their life that they are entitled to, instead are subject to forceful rape to procreate at an unnatural rate to feed an unhealthy addiction we have to meat. With regards to dairy, female cows are raped continuously to become pregnant in order to produce milk. Their young are then stolen from then almost instantly, and if they are male, they're subject to become veal, or females are subject to the same fate as their mothers. If you don't believe me maybe do some research or work on a farm. With regards to egg production, hens are given tons of hormones to speed up egg production, kept in tiny cages and debeaked without anaesthetic. If young that are born turn out to be males, they are sent to a grinder which grinds them to death. Do some research. Plants do not have a brain nor a nervous system, we cannot cage and torture plants even if we wanted to. Bit of a silly moot point, "kiddo". And with regards to ISIS and Islam, I am very much critical of Islam and it's belief system and so are many vegans (Vegan Gains also made a video on Islam). We don't agree with the slitting of throats in the name of a God that has never been proven nor believe anything should be killed whatsoever. I have read the Qur'an myself and have had many confrontations with Muslims about their views on homosexuality and non-believers. But I'm not sure where you got the correlation between being vegan and being in denial of violence within religious beliefs?
Thijs Tharn, if you don't want to give up your bacon and cheese, that's fine - the crap's still legal so it's up to you. But why respond to this positive comment about someone improving her life with such argumentative and cognitively dissonant BS? Farm animals are as intelligent and sensitive as cats and dogs. They live short painful lives and fight and cry on the way to slaughter. So yes, purchasing these products is funding torture. The first thing to ask oneself in ethical decisions is what one would want for themselves. Do unto others and all that. But you do you.
lmao and how long have you been vegan? All it's good for is the initial cleansing effect. Which anyone can do in the first place adding more produce to their diet and eating better. Or juicing/fasting. In other words the benefits of veganism are short term.
The benefits of veganism are life-long, as has been stated in many journals including the Academy of Nutrition & Dietetics (jandonline.org/article/S2212-2672(16)31192-3/fulltext) and this article from PNAS (www.pnas.org/content/113/15/4146.full) but yes you carry on with your anecdotal evidence
"Whole world cannot go vegan over night so yeah we bother then" lol the logic behind in this video is epic! Veganism isn't about becoming perfectly vegan over night. It's a gradual process, your intention to reduce the harm and do your best while trying out new products and veganizing your lifestyle and likes is how it goes. I am vegan and I eat more junk food than fruits, guess what bbc, plenty of junk food is vegan so are mock meat, dairy & cheese alternatives etc etc... My life is same as before going vegan, it's just the food and products I use veganized, but still based on my values, likes and dislikes. I did it over a long period of time and am glad I did. I didn't fool myself with unrealistic goals and expectations like "Whole world has to go vegan over night, even if did, predators would eat animals anyway so why bother? It's okay to continue eating animals in fact, we _must_ keep doing it, it looks like it is working out well for our profit regardless of the negative consequences" That's not how change happens. You challenge the belief and create solutions to a problem, psychology 101 duh!!
I've had cancer for the good part of 16 years. I was already vegetation my whole life. But once I tired vegan, 2 months later I went into remission and it never came back. Now I'm not saying that veganism will cure cancer, but it may be a step in the right direction. Just think on it
It does cure certain types but being vegan causes other problem like in pregnancy you will have to eat bowls of bean to get enough certain nutrients you would need for the baby inside and and that’s why cravings come in to fuel you in more and meat can satisfy you a lot more then vegetables and beans but also congrats
@@click2357 thank you for your informative input. Unfortunately in my case, because of my condition I’ll never be able to have my own biological children. A lot has changed in my case and diet since I first commented this, I’m on a much healthier and balanced path now ☺️ still cancer free though!!
2 weeks of being vegan myself! I’m at my best self I’ve ever been! Healthier, mentally healthier, energy, morally just so proud. I’ve been intentional with cooking and eating and have AMAZING meals!! Love this lifestyle!!
I've been a vegan or vegetarian for almost 25 years back before it was really even a thing! It is sooo much easier to go vegan now than when I began my journey!
Maybe he transitioned to veganism with vegetarianism. A lot of people do that. And I agree, it's a lot easier that way. I was vegetarian, and I'm on my way to moving to a plant-based diet. It's pretty easy, considering I hate milk and eggs already. Still working on that darn cheese though. It's hard though, as the only veg in the family haha.
Shreya Puthran, exactly, plus you're still benefitting the environment and everything on the way there. And it increases the likelihood of you staying vegan and continuing to benefit the environment, your health, and the animals.
God impressive. Even a few years back it was different from now. I got more and more shocked about how many products I can buy now so easily. I found vegan "chicken" nuggets yesterday 😂😂😂
Can someone list me the pros and cons of veganism? I'm on the fence about trying it and just need a no bullshit/propaganda answer on what's good and bad about it?
I don’t and I’m following all of the rules. Eating a variety of all the foods and a lot of it. Still feeling tired and sluggish and worse than when I ate meat.
1.)People wouldn't loose their jobs as more people would become farmers that grow vegetables, hence new jobs, all they would have to do is switch. 2.) Plastic doesn't come from a cow, we don't make glue that way anymore, and a bunch of other things that definitely don't need to come from a cow such as sugars, ever heard of sugar canes? Also milk, theres many alternatives, and theres alternatives for everything mentioned on that list if you do the research. We don't even need beef gelatine to make jelly anymore. 3.) The amount of money that is spent on feeding over populated animals (due to man) could be spent instead on feeding the many homeless and the poor in certain areas of the world that would solve world hunger. 4.) "Oh no what would happen to the animals if they were all released into the wild?" I'm sorry my bad, murdering, enslaving, eating and taking away their children is by far the better thing to do.(insert face palm) I rest my case XD
@@pappubenchoarmypappurocks266 Yeah, because we just have cats racoons mongoose, snakes and dogs running rampant kill animals 5 times their own size.... Where's your common sense dude. If we released these animals to the wild, they would overpopulate. Unless you live somewhere that has lions, tigers, and other big cats/predators like that, then maybe they won't overpopulate in that area, but in most places, there are no predators that would kill these farm animals. Cats are not going to kill these animals, racoons are not going to kill these animals, mongoose wont kill these animals, snakes wont kill these animals, dogs won't kill these animals. The only animal that they probably would eat is chickens, but their aren't enough animals around that would be predators to chickens.
All veganism does is rot your teeth and brains and turn you into skinny zombies who are addicted to sugar and destroys your hormones and health. You only get all the fat soluable vitamins from animal products. Veganism is a sure way to depopulation.
So why are we not looking at the more realistic version: What if we would have a gradual change into veganism? Because than all the cons seem to disappear
Zappiturtle humans are not natural meat eaters. Real meat eaters swallow their meat whole or in large chunks. They don’t chew like we and other herbivores do. We’ve learned to eat meat due to various reasons in the past . I mean I’ve seen a. I’ve seen on RUclips a video of a cow eating a chicken but that doesn’t make cows meat eaters
@@DaleBlackBass We cook our food dumbass. How the fuck.are you gonna feed poor people on only plants. It's not sustainable when your crops get destroyed and have nothing but reserves to eat you live in a privileged world
Your argument does not make any sense whatsoever. Veganism is the answer to stop animal exploitation, it never stated to end racism, discrimination and violence. I think you are talking about vegetarian countries and not vegan countries, but why would you even refer to the past. we are living in the present. We have all made mistakes in the past, look at the separation, slavery and ww2. The consumption of animal derived products will also be on that list some day.
Nathaniel Winston you forgot to mention that veganism is not about preventing all animal suffering and death, but as much as practically possible. There is a HUGE difference between killing animals unintentionally in a process of farming, and forcefeed animals in cages to get them fat to then send them to a slaughterhouse where their lives will end against their will, which is done for nothing but someone's taste pleasure. You are right about the deforestation part, a lot of rainforests are destroyed because of it. The part you are intellectually dishonest about is the fact that these crops are mainly grown for animal agriculture purposes, GMO soybeans in particular, these are grown to fatten up the animals that meat eaters would eat. And Cattleranching as well (Source: Butler, 2012 ; Mongabay)
@KebenaranBukanMilikAndaAtaupunSaya Veganism is a way of living which seeks to exclude, as far as is possible and practicable, all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose. Read what veganism is about, before you shitpost.
Seriously, BBC..? Seriously? This is so, so silly! I thought BBC did their homework, but you REALLY need to look into facts and remake this, because this video contains a LOT of misinformation.
Well i guess drought and climate change and collapse of human society. Uh, but we could have an "unemployment crisis" if we would go vegan over night.. lmao.. quality video
LunnarisLP - unfortunately this is the problem I see in most people's arguments anymore. The United States going to end if hulllary gets elected, the United States will fall if trump is elected. If you don't listen to me and me alone your whole world will crash down around you. Even if far off consequences are true telling people it like that psychologically only will put up ones defenses, quensfioning their beliefs will actually is psychologically more likely to lock them down further in their beliefs and no ones accounting for others and especially their own confirmation biases when looking at the vast ocean of information that is properly, improperly or properly twisted. I don't understand why people don't discuss and then talk about small steps, people are better with things on the short term, unfortunately looking down long term and comparing it to losing ones job, not being able to feed their kids now, pay their bills, immediate hardship as much as you scoff at whole industries dissolving overnight is a big deal and people will think about immediate issues before long term hypothetical consequences that they have no real perception of. I have my own problems in all these areas I am human but everything I look at and read especially if it's something that makes me quickly either say yeah that seems right, too quickly shows some sort of confirmation bias on myself as I'm agreeing without even looking at the opposing research. If I do the opposite and immodestly call bullshit I do the same and call myself out on it. Just in terms of communication and progress I hope we can get better because current ways are two sides of every issue being reinforced by confirmation biases, closing themselves off in social groups that reinforce these, dehumanizing the opposition (all trump supporters are racists misogynists or all Dems hate democracy and are a threat to freedom), never even giving any opposing ideas/thoughts/research/studies/opinions even a chance, and then going to war in arguments with opposing side and everyone in between only reinforcing the people on our sides deeper into our trenches by confirming their biases and pushing the opposition into their trenches by instead of talking about how neither of us know let's share info and ideas and see what comes out as we may not agree at the end but hope we both come away with something new. It seems we only want to be right, everyone knows there are issues and falling prey to our cynicism when we see they are not being fixed is easy and wanting to find a solution or something to blame is reasonable, but then only claiming that is right and not expanding and listening to others or only trying to convert everyone else to our own way of living and thinking is where we lose if. Sorry for the long post, hope you and everyone else has a good day.
Nothing will happen to "the world" itself. It will just keep doing it's thing. With or without us. We're not ending the world, just our species... Prematurely :P
I'm furious. I want my license fee back; I definitely won't be renewing it. The BBC is publicly funded, it should not be allowed to spread misinformation like this.
Here here! It's no secret the BBC are anti-vegan, they're so STUPID! The irony is that they're HELPING veganism by pissing everyone off so much, the meat-eaters too by patronising us all! :D
Enoby Dark'ness Dementia Raven Way say that to millions of healthy vegans in world... including top athletes in the NBA, NFL and many other leagues and individual sports...
Well, I became a vegan and feel way better now! Even though the first month was not easy, now it is a normal diet for me. When I see meat it's like plastic bag or some other object you can't eat for me. It's just not food where's the problem with that? I was the one who always said "I could never go vegan"- haha here I am💁🏽 I should have gone vegan many years ago the advantages are too good to miss right now. I love it! #veganissexy
Shakawkaw000 You believe that its morally OK to eat animals. You have been indoctrinated. Like you I grew up believing it is healthy and necessary to eat the corpses of dead animals when in reality it is unhealthy and unnecessary.
Becoming a vegan was the best thing that happened to me! I live healthier, feel less guilty in general and I appreciate food more than before. I would recommend it to everyone and I think that veganism causes nothing but good things (as long as the society has got the time to adjust itself to it of course)
Farmland returning to native forest??? Farmers will not just leave their land to 'return to nature'! They will use every inch of that land to generate revenue. That is the nature of intensive agriculture.
41DegreesSouth its also preventing them from going into bankruptcy, lets just let people go poor because their area of work is deemed immoral by like 1% of the total population
41DegreesSouth The problem is that agriculture is the thing that is killing one of the Earth's lung: The Amazonian forest. Vegans ignore this. It's not pastures, with its cows, sheep or pigs, it's agriculture. What is happening is that farmers are cutting down the trees and burning the soil, to prepare it for havest, but once the soil is burned the trees cannot grow back (that is a fact), because the soil becomes too dry and poor in nutrients for trees to take root. If the whole world turned vegan, even if it was slowly, you could kiss goodbye to the Amazonian forest, because the agriculture problem would intensify and then the planet would be doomed, because the Earth would only have one lung left: the Borealis Forest and the amount of CO² we are releasing (even without husbandry) is too great to handle for only the Borealis. The ocean is already near max capicity of how much it can stock in CO² and methane. Veganism is not a long term answer, eco-energy is our shot at reducing the load we put onto our forests. After we have eco-energy, then we can pour our money into educating the world on a balanced diet (which does not need to include milk at all, that is a scam by corporations). Rn, corporate greed dictates our diets and energy, but we have to fight that to get a chance at savin the planet we call home.
Mack & Marley it’s actually all bulls hot though, if you have B12 in your diet which allows your brain to function properly, which clearly you are deficient in
Swanny94 dude it is so easy to supplement b12 as a vegan. You know clean b12? B12 that doesn't clog your arteries or give you diabetes and all that. You should do some research
I just became a vegan last week and it cleared up all my acne, destroyed all my hemorrhoids, got rid of my migraines, and cured my rosacea. Thank you vegan community, for showing me the way to a happier, healthier life!
I like eating cows as much as the next person, but I think vegans have a great point about reducing cow consumption in particular because of the reasons listed above in the video. They require so much land, water, and other resources. There are nutrients that we have a difficult time getting without consuming animal products, so I don't think it realistic to expect ALL humans to be able to make the switch. Personally, I think we (westerners, anyway) out to incorporate eating more insects, since they'd be far less resource intensive to farm.
We can get all the nutriants we need from a plant based diet I don't think you know what nutriants are I think you meant vitamins if so yes we can't get B12 in a plant based diet but it's not hard to get
Will Nottel this why I hunt my food and vegans at my school get pissed off I hunt one deer a year 4 to 5 wild hogs And 2 wild Turkeys And a shit ton of vegetables and I ain't even fat or obese I don't contribute to any of that shit that goes on in slaughter houses I'm on their side
cows suffer every day of their lives they can smell they own blood for ass long as they live with no windows they get sick and have no mercey me and you wouldn't wana be there
you forgot about the very intense cruelty. If we were plants we would feel hardly anything while dying and if we were humans after we would have no problems eating plants but if we were animals and sufferd every day of our lives we would become different humans even if this is the last thing you care about you will change your diet in a second. Iv seen people that are homeless bein more giving and open hearted than people well of because of they experience what difficulty is. This is the effect of karma and reincarnation if you like killing a cow to enjoy you will get a body to be slaughted next or maybe that of a tiger who allways have to struggle a lot to get food
you think the wild is like a disney film where all the animals get together and sing songs? No, the wild is a brutal place, where animals face slow painful deaths from famine, disease, injury and from being eaten alive.
Thanks for posting this! I've been vegan for 5 1/2 years for ethical and environmental reasons, and some of the benefits of the world going vegan were stunning even to me. I think those benefits would far outweigh any potential negatives that could occur; after all, if we keep pumping greenhouse emissions into the air, none of the other factors will matter much when the planet is practically uninhabitable.
Going on 3 weeks with no animal derived products, eating only starches, grains, fruits, vegetables - I feel awsome! Losing belly fat, saving money, and I have more energy!
Given that global veganism would be a gradual change, most of the negatives in this video would be dealt with appropriately, as there will be a lot of time to discuss how to solve the problems.
Sparrow flight Depends on the person's mind and how much will they have to do something, I went Vegetarian overnight after doing my research and here I am in the present Vegan.
Sparrow flight It's a start honestly for those interested in going Vegan and are not comfortable with the drastic change I'd say Vegetarian diet is what you should start with.
It is the most vegan vegetarian friendly place in the world! Only 30% of the meat eaters there eat it on a regular basis. Culturally it is very vegetarian/ vegan. In fact my father asked in a few restaurants for a meat curry and we were laughed at and told that the establishment was a vegetarian restaurant! haha ...I couldn't think of many places like that, which I have been to, except maybe Taiwan!.. but whatever, just my 2 cents...
Used to be vegan, then went to being vegetarian and back to being an omnivore, best decision I made for both physical and mental health! No restriction to what I can eat. Not for everyone.
I'm not a vegan, but I don't object to veganism. In fact, I understand it perfectly. What I do NOT understand or condone, however, is the arrogance of people who try to shove their lifestyle or their belief system down my throat. I never thought I'd say that, but I believe some vegans are even worse in that regard than both religious fanatics or atheist activists. Wether it's a passive-aggressive "you know you're killing the planet, right?" or a phony, falsely concerned "these burgers will kill you" or, even worse, a self-righteous "at least I'm doing the right thing", a lot of vegans, a freaking LOT of vegans have an infuriatingly arrogant attitude to others. Now, don't get me wrong, I will not call vegans a "cult", or anything like that. But, unless some members of the vegan community start to understand that the WAY they convey their message is the real reason why people are annoyed with said message and come to hate vegans as a whole, I don't think people will stop calling them a cult.
You know I think there's a difference between 'shoving their belief systems down your throat' and simply trying to educate people on the serious health, ethical and environmental issues eating meat causes... there's always some people who are preachy and judgemental I definitely agree! But as a fellow meat eater I have to say I see more meat eaters bashing vegans than vegans do to them:/
Olga Rose you’re probably right, this is my viewpoint from this side of the fence. And I agree, plenty of people are perfectly respectful and won’t try to « convert » you... it’s the ones that do that get on my nerves.
lethe56 yeah I'm from the northern side of the U.K. so everyone seems to be heavily into meat, maybe that's why vegans get a lot of stick over here! But other places I'm sure it's a lot worse!
I am a vegan. Been almost a year now. Before I was vegetarian for 3 years. Never rejected anything. I did it for the animals, for the planet and for myself! Feel great with it. Don't be afraid to try.
It's obviously that the world won't come vegan overnight. It's a process like any other. So, if someday the most people became vegan, the system will already be adaptaded to sustain it. We already have alternatives to most of products that were quoted, we just need to increase the production.
Oh, and those cultures that keep the animal culture for tradition don't explore, torture and kill the animals like the meat industry. One thing is completely different from the other.
I'm twelve and the only vegetarian in my family. I want to become vegan but it will be very hard for my family to provide for my lifestyle aswell as theirs, not to mention expensive, so for now I am remaining vegetarian until I move out and get my own food, so I can ease into veganism. Even just being vegetarian has given me so many great results!
Rice, beans, potatoes. :) You can do it with little money easily. My boyfriend spends 60 euro on money per month, and surely he is eating more than you would. It is all possible. :) Talk to you parents if they can take you shopping so you can pick foods for yourself. Go for seasonal veggies and fruits to make it cheaper. Whole foods, not processed vegan stuff, they are expensive indeed but also less healthy. From what I remember when I was 12 I was able to cook myself meals totally. So even if your parents don't want to spend extra time to prepare meals for you, you can do it yourself. Also, they possibly can't force you to eat animal products. Remember - it is your health, your life. Being vegan at such a young age will give so much in the future. Listen to your heart, you are a lovely being. :)
i was in the same situation, but i realized its really not that much harder to just... not eat the yogurt. or the eggs. or the cheese. i should also add that my parents don’t buy anything “extra” for me (besides like almond milk) , because i eat staples we already had or were very cheap like oats, bananas, berries, beans, rice, spinach, etc.
Please check into what plants actually do to your body hunny. I was a vegan and it really hurt my health. By the time you’re 20 you could have some major problems!! No one is talking about the health problems that come down the line. Most plants are man made at this point check out ex vegan videos and the carnivore diet before deciding to eat only plants!! Just get all the facts esp if you’re only 12!!
The only vegan food that's more expensive are the processed things like cheese and chocolate, but things like that twice a month won't do any harm to the bank account. Things like that you can make yourself at him - Vegan chocolate mousse can be made with cocoa, blended dates and banana and added chopped nuts. Vegan cheese takes more work, but it's very nice. It's made with pecans, garlic, lemon, chives, and other things I can't remember right now, but it's worth looking up the recipe online.
Maybe you already are vegan by now. Just make sure you are supplementing with B12 and vitamin D especially in the winter months and eat a rainbow diet. Congrats anyway for leaning toward a vegan life style.
I’m glad to see a video that actually states the facts and shows the effects of veganism instead of just bashing it. As for the problems mentioned, health is not an issue as long as you eat enough and you fix any gut problems that have come up from years of a bad diet and you can get ALL your nutrients on a plant-based diet easily. Vitamin D and B-12 are the only two that people should focus on and that’s resolved with sunlight (v-D), supplements (both), or fortified food (both). Arid farm land can be transformed into fertile farm land through desert farming (which BBC actually already has an article on... 🤔), and the rest of the points are so easily resolve by the fact that this is a gradual shift, not an abrupt one as shown in the video. Because so much of the world is uneducated or refusing to go vegan, there is plenty of time to lower animal production, killing, and abuse phasing out animal-based products and allowing the growth of plant-based products (meat->mock meat, gelatin-> pectin, leather -> cactus leather, so on and so forth). It’s time to go vegan everyone; your health, the environment, and the animals are at serious risk. And there is no way the message will propagate fast enough to suddenly turn the world vegan so there is no excuse for you to make the change. Save the world 🌎🐮🐣🌱❤️
I dont think it's necessary for everyone to go vegan, but everyone should at least make an effort to cut down on their meat and dairy consumption You can still eat it, but just don't do it in excess because it's not good for you or for our planet
MelanAphrodite your statemeant is good to an extent but it would be better just to stop eating meat all together the whole process of meat is just a sick disgusting industry that no one should support
Because when you pay for meat your paying the slaughterhouse, also the fact that most people know how the animals are treated and they still buy meat is supporting it even more if you didn't support it then you would stop eating meat
Hey, it's Mady! I haven't run across any of the BBC Earth videos with her in a while. One of the problems I've run into before when my diet shifted to eating almost nothing but plant based foods, was that I needed to eat three to almost five times as much food to feel full and satisfied, where with meat, even just a few ounces can curb my cravings in a hurry. With the plant based diet, I was eating myself out of house and home in under a week because I was always hungry, and my groceries per week went from $20-$30 dollars for just myself up to or over $60 because of having to not only buy more, but that many vegan products are also WAY more expensive. I was also tired all of the time, and lacked energy to do much of anything.
I imagine there's an art to eating a vegan based diet. For example, in feudal Japan, a typical meal for a peasant might be millet mixed with rice, a pickled plum, vegetables like edamame, and of course fish when they could get it. It had to be filling enough to last through a long, hard day, but with minimal cost.
What were, or rather weren’t you eating? 😳 Sure, you can fill up on salad and steamed veggies but not get rough calories 🥗 Grains, Legumes, some nuts & seeds and maybe a bit of extra plant fat/oil to increase caloric density 😉 🌱🖖🏼
Have a look at the documentary Cowspiracy and Forks Over Knives, both are on Nexflix and are full of fantastic impartial information and facts on why a plant based diet is a great way to live.
People can be vegan for different reasons some are because the environmental impact and others for health reasons but the most common you'll hear is to reduce animal suffering as far as possible. So benefits could be a healthier diet or knowing that you significantly reduce your carbon footprint or knowing that you can eat great food and live a healthy life without unnecessarily harming animals
+Ashikur Rahman Our philosophy is that as there is no single nutrient that cannot be supplied on a vegan diet, eating animals creates needless suffering and death, also as it is a needless industry, it is needlessly destroying the planet and dairy and meat are the biggest contributors of saturated fat in people's diet, and saturated fat is a nutrient you should limit, which is what most people dont do, and its why a lot of people die of heart disease and diabetes.
I would love to reduce my dependency on animals. I eat meat and use animal byproducts every day and when you really think about how many animals I rely on each day it’s shocking! The environmental affect is another motivator for me. I am very seriously considering a move into a vegan lifestyle.
Why do we need to totally be vegan? What is wrong with balance? Human evolved to be omnivores, mostly eating plant based but have a meat feast once in a while. If you are vegan because of the animals cruelty, I understand and respect that. However, it is not all black and white, most farm animals have been breed by human to be like they are, for example a chicken would not survive more than a week in the wild. So what would happen, you let them all die. Anyhow, I have thought about this a lot and for the planet and animal welfare I have decided to become mostly plant based but I eat meat and animal products on occasions. My rules are simple at home or at work plant based, outside if I go to friends house or restaurant I eat what is on offer, that way I don't cause offense, I feel healthy, and the planet is better off. Also I saw a study recently that compared the impact of vegan and vegetarian on the environment and there is really not much different. Anyway I think people should eat less animal products and the vegan movement is doing a great job at spreading the idea ( even my 70 year mum is now trying Android o cut down on meat) forcing companies to develop better produces and giving people more choices. At the end of the day it is a really person choice I respect the vegan, vegetarian, farmers( if they are ethical, try to do their best and respect their animals).
Here to Annoy you . Explain. Because the animal only has protein in its muscles because it has eating protein. An animal can't just invent it's own protein. So ur eating the animal the get what the animal got from plants. So it can't be healthier than the plant form surly ?
I do it for my health and it's pretty great feeling. I like it and recommend it. Plus if you like cooking it's really fun to cook vegan because you have to think a lot more and I like a challenge.
I've been vegan for 4 months which is not a long time but I've never felt better! you know, you align yourself with your morals. I've always loved animals but somehow ate them bc society told me to do it. but now it makes much more sense not to eat them. and especially dairy. cow's milk is made for baby cows and not for humans. it's just so bizarre if you really think about it. humans drink milk from cows?! makes zero sense. I think you should watch 101 reasons to go vegan OR Gary Yourofsky's speech. hope these will help you! wish the best for you if you'll try a plant-based diet later on! 💕
I've worked on farms and I tried living vegan for about two years. My conclusion from my experiences is that what most vegans think farming is like and what farming is actually like really don't resemble each other very much, therefore I honestly cannot see the movement having any appreciable impact on agriculture or going beyond being anything but a personal decision. Can't change a system you don't understand and don't want to understand. Ultimately I can't see myself ever picking it up again. I'm going to remain an omnivore and work on growing my own food.
Yes we are. You know what would happen to a herbivore if it only ate meat? It would get an intestinal obstruction and die a painful death. Why can humans eat meat without and worry of obstructions if we are supposedly herbivores?
That is not true. Humans CAN eat and digest raw meat, or dishes like Carpaccio wouldn't exist. They are made possible because of modern agriculture, that prevents the animals of getting parasites of all sorts. Also, animals like chickens tend to be infested with Campylobacter and therefore shouldn't be eaten raw - it is not the fact that the meat is raw that we shouldn't eat it, it is simply because of the bacteria. Eating raw meat from a wild animal also wouldn't be a good idea, because it can be infested with parasites (that's the reason it is recommended to always cook meats like venison completely), and humans simply don't have strong enough stomach acid. Because of that, dogs f.e. are able to still eat spoiled meat, or even birds of prey: They can feed on roadkills that have been laying outside in the sun for days without getting sick. Saying that humans cannot digest raw meat is imho false.
ill be a vegan because im and we are natural herbivores thats a fact and they won't be any side affects if we adapt to people becoming vegan. unemployment wont be an issue if we adapt more jobs will be created
Okay where to start. 1. A lot of non arid land is not suitable for arable farming, I live in Wales, the majority of our land is unsuitable or marginal for commercial arable farming due to weather, the soil quality or fragility, access for machinery and restrictions due to other land users. The advantage of pastoral farming is that it can use land that cannot grow crops in a useful way. 2. If we are trying to reduce farming’s negative impact on the environment then things like leaving land fallow or growing crops that enrich the soil will become increasingly important. Grazing this land and/or feeding these often unappetising to human crops to animals makes doing these things commercially viable and benefits the land further. 3. Animal feed is often traditionally produced from waste products from other food production. Windfall fruit, byproducts of brewing or cheese making, sugar beet after processing, and much more. 4. Many cultures revolve around pastoral food production both nomadic and settled. Removing this element would destroy these cultures. 5. Plants are not permanent carbon sinks, that carbon will be cycled back into the atmosphere as they rot, unless you intend to sequester that material somehow. Growing crop plants without animal fertiliser would in fact require increased use of fossil fuel derived products or greatly reduced yields. 6. Commercial food production causes animal death. Animals are killed at every stage and your food contains animal products. Take for example flour, flour is allowed to contain a certain amount of bits of insect and rodent per volume, now that isn’t because they can’t be bothered not to it’s because a certain amount is inevitable. There are problems with meat production mainly because of industrial factory farming. Reduce your meat intake, buy traditionally reared ethical meat, try mutton, it’s nice, it’s cheap and it’s almost impossible to be reared in a way that would cause you ethical concerns.
From what I've heard is that Scotland was once forested till all the trees were cut down and natural predators like wolfs were killed off. So the deer population. Became a lot higher reaulting in them eating the young tree saplings. So the forests never grew back.
I would not be a vegan to save the planet, because rotation grazing (using cows & livestock to mimic large herds of grazing animals like wildebeest) and eliminating factory farming would be the best way to increase quality of meat, give the animals better lives, and make the whole process more sustainable. Then the portion of land used for monocultured “feed” could go back to wilderness. Feed is in quotations because the nutrient density from commercial agriculture is barely there, and killing the soil. And then we wonder why GMOs are a thing…
I used to be a meat eater. I really am trying to go completely vegan, eliminating my animal fat consumption. before, I had issues with energy and motivating myself to do ANYTHING... but now, I can do whatever I want within a minute because I have so much energy and I just want to start waking up to do stuff, I even started cleaning my house for no reason, it’s just so good! :)
it's not weird, it's actually just based on the person, I might feel better but some other person could feel shitty by going vegan. So if you're feeling good, keep living your life. You do you boo :D
You missed quite allot of environmental effects. "Cow belches" is just one part. There is Deforestation, ocean dead zones, water and grain consumption, deseartification, transportation involved for moving meat around. Take into account all of these and you get the world watch report of Animal Agro being responsible for 51% of GHG production. Also if your grazing animals on arid land that has hardly any water, where does the water and food come from for the animals that are grazing there?
Vetostream wrongy Joke’s on you, deforestation also happens for more fields to be cleared up for your all time favorite veggies to be grown, not just meat farms.
I swear I'm hearing her say that "plants CAN'T supply all the vitamins and minerals that our bodies need" right after she said half a million people are vegan. I realize this is a 5 year old video at this point, so maybe credible information wasn't available when it was posted or maybe I'm mishearing her, but if 500,000 people are vegan already and aren't dead then they probably don't need anything that's missing from their diet. Speaking in 2023 though, it's very possible to have any life style you want without animal products.
I don't know how you came up with the idea that veganism comes from western cultures. Look at India, Malaysia and Indonesia, there are plenty vegan people for houndreds of years.
white people have to pretend they invented everything to overcompensate for being so destructive. they still cling to colonialism myths, they think they are just go colonize Mars after they destroy this planet, but they forget they need people to steal from and enslave for that colonialism thing to work, and Mars is kind of without an indigenous people.
They are vegetarians not vegans ;)
gisforgary No need to be racist, Western civilization isn't just white people.
Sanerah also the mayans and Aztecs. Also the diets of the gladiators and other historic fighters lived on whole food and plant based food bc it made them stronger, less sluggish and less foggy in the brain and made them quicker and overall better warriors. Im not condoning violence..obviously lol but it is the most sustainable lifestyle and food and nutritional source humans are designed to consume. What did it for me was learning about the human body and learning about what foods are used for our design. Why would you consume something not made for our bodies and mind? Why do you think humans suffer such terrible health consequences from their diets?
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Where do you find this stuff, it's pretty funny :D
The problem of what to do with the animals is one that only appears because of your hypothetical scenario of going vegan from one day to the other. Thats not going to happen, thus the animals will be "used up" and the overall amount of animals slowly reduces with falling demand.
Also you skipped the whole moral question, which I can understand as this is a science channel, but it is still important to consider when you talk about unemployment.
You wouldnt make the same argument for farms in 18th century USA depending on slaves to stay relevant.
Something everyone should remember when talking about veganism is the exact definition:
"Veganism is a way of living which seeks to exclude, *as far as is possible and practicable*, all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose."
If you cant survive without killing animals, you CAN eat meat and other animal products. This is something people seem to willfully ignore while refering to the futility of suffering.
The problem is not some sheep who eat grass or some farmers in africa who use their animals to stay alive, it is giant factory farms which keep and slaughter animals in the most cruel ways imagineable, to produce an underpriced product which on top of that is unhealthy. And again on top of that comes that lots of the food produced this way, just goes to waste! Making all the suffering, all the damage to the environment totally useless.
Alex GoesNuts A million times yes!!!!
If you talk about science, you should never skip the moral question because philosophy/ethics is also a science.
And when she said that not all vitamins and minerals can be acquired, The only one that can't be acquired without supplementation is B12. She refuses to talk about how we supplement our livestock with nutrients like B12 and refuses to talk about how we also supplement plant based milks with B12. And from an evolutionary perspective B12 comes from the dirt so its not in meat or plants, it was on the soil on our plants and water that we ate and drank thousands of years ago. She also doesn't say that doctors recommend all people, meat eating and plant based, to take B12 supplements.
Thanks for saying just what I was thinking! The world isn't going vegan overnight, so worrying about what would happen to the farm animals and related occupations is a waste of time.
YES! thank you! :)
Those poor animals dying in the wild. Good thing we have death factories so that doesn't happen.
The sarcasm is real :V
I'd rather die wild than live on one of that closed milking and DEATH walls :P
@@RoxOn413 same!
This is so true lol sarcasm!! We should definitely not let these poor animals die a normal death, we should just kill them and give them painful deaths instead. Yes, what good humans we are!
Death in wild ......Is much more different than dying in capture
@@RoxOn413 I guess you wouldn't, actually. There's no dignity and peace over the death of wild animals. The lucky ones are taken by a predator, but those who dies of sickness and starvation over the course of a harsh winter would probably happily switch places with a well fed cow or pig who gets slaughtered quick and humane. Vegans generally romanticise nature and wild life, and projects their own emotions and views on life over to animals and nature. First of all this is a symptom of a modern man and his or hers increased distance to nature and how and where our food come from.
"Oh no what will happen to the animals if everyone goes vegan" oh so suddenly you care about animals??
Abster306 she never mentioned her fear of waste just fear of them dying naturally in the wild, but the chicken in Hawaii will be fine.
Dani J.Roberts You keep saying that but, no, I will stay vegan thanks :)
Dani J. Roberts, The local cows and chickens cause the same environmental and health problems as every other cow and chicken in the world. You're missing the whole point of the video.
Cows are still gonna be releasing methane gas when they release waste products. Their high levels of saturated fats are still gonna heighten the chances of type 2 diabetes because it coats the cells from the sugar in the bloodstream. The fats are also going to cause blood problems, heart problems, and possible cancer issues. These issues have nothing to do with animal welfare. It's about what cows are on a component level, and there's really no way to change that.
susanna lung yes they'd still release methane it has only become such a problem because there so many of them, why are there so many of them? Because we make them reproduce over and over and over so everyone can use them and eat them. Naturally there would not be this many.
veganism did not "take root" in western culture, nor did it start there! there are whole religions and philosophies in asia (especially India) that are vegans and have existed for millennia 😒😒😒😒
jurassicperk86 dude she was just trying to say that it's hear now. She never claimed we invented it. She meant it's finally taking a hold of the west
Please don't steer this to religious matters... can't we enjoy the benefits that it's give us all... and who care where it came from ...I care that it's good...
I'm sure you mean buddhism because that is the only religious teach people that they shouldn't eat meat. They are vegetarian not vegan and usually only monks are vegetarian. Normal people don't need to be vegetarian everyday. Buddha who is the God people pray was relied on goat milk to live. This comment is so dumb. I can't believe people like this (too many dumb vegans). Vegan is something I like to call "First World's Problem". If you suffer from hunger like African people, I'm sure you would do anything to survive and would not think about where the food come from.
Rose Michaelis You're talking about Hinduism...
They do 'exploit' animals by drinking milk, and using it to make yoghurt and cheese. Many Hindus also don't find issue with eating some meats, usually just chicken. And monks are taught not to kill, but should eat whatever is given to them as alms, even if it's meat. The Mahayana Buddhists of Tibet regularly eat meat.
I’m vegan for the animals, environment, and health. It’s not really that big of a change, though I didn’t consume a ton of animal products before going plant based. I thought I’d be eating salads all the time but I rarely eat them, and I’m also glutenfree, yet I don’t feel limited. There are soooo many healthy, easy, delicious recipes out there to try out. I used to not care about/disliked cooking but now I love it✌️♥️🌱🌍
RUclips is a great resource for vegan cooking ideas. I do eat a large salad every day, but I also eat a wide variety of other foods on my vegan diet. My variety in my diet has expanded since I switched.
Plants are living beings also.
The idea that grazing animals keep biodiversity is just pure nonsense, and jobs in animal farming would go diverted to other industries like that happened in the past.
Luis GO V exactly what I was going to say... the meat dairy and leather alternatives industry would expand significantly if everyone was vegan: therefore boom! Thousands, millions of new jobs in plant based dairy, alternative meat and alternative leather (mushroom leather, cork..) industries !
Naturally deer graze the land, not domestic sheep.
Stop making sense. The Internet isn't for that 🙄
4 YEARS AGO i was diagnosed with IBS (Irritable Bowel Syndrome), my doctors said it was genetic and also triggered by mental stress, my family said that it all came from inside my mind, that i had nothing. My doctors prescribed me a lot of pills and restricted a lot of foods from my normal diet stating that these foods were bad for my colon, but could still eat white sif cheese and a lot of meats, but no beans and almost all fruits were forbidden.
Sometimes i felt relieved but eventually my symptoms would flare up. I struggled all of these years with this awful condition until i searched IBS in RUclips and found a lot of people that claim they found a cure for their colon problems through a vegan diet.
Of course i was very skeptical at first, but after trying a vegan diet for a month and making some adjustments here and there, i can proudly say i am cured, no more stomach sounds, diarrhea, no more heartburn, nothing. Even now i eat almost everyday beans, food my doctors said to me i can not eat anymore in my life. The doctors told me i had to live my whole life taking pills and alleviating the symptoms of IBS, now I know better. Now my wife after seeing how i cured my health issues and how my body changed physically i am very lean now, hell even i have a six pack now which i never had in my life, now she only eats meat on social occasions.
Nobody can tell me now a vegan diet is bad for your health or even for the world, the problem is people get very aggressive and defensive when you tell them their food choices are wrong.
I hope my message helps somebody
Veganism cured my colon issues and now i don't take not even 1 pill. Nobody told me nothing, all of this comes from my own experience...
btw, when have you guys ever heard to eat some red meat, pork, ham or take some milk to cure any disease???
Alonso Fernandez wow this is amazing! I'm so glad that you're doing better. I was actually quite surprised to read that your doctors allowed cheese but no fruits. That pretty weird considering how troublesome lactose can be for stomach problems.
Alonso Fernandez im not hating but u said u were on the interne ad some peaple say they found the cure then u said with ur own experienc xD.
Liz B whatever works out for each? What about the animals? How does it work for them? Who are we to decide they should be food?
Liz B if someone's sexual preferences included rape then that would be wrong, wouldn't it?
Though it's a preferences it would be wrong because it's taking away someone else's choices.
Just like that, eating meat takes away an animal's choice to live. So how can this be right?
Liz B we are not superior. Just because we can conduct a few experiments, build buildings and fly around does not make us superior. We are no one to decide who lives and who dies and we are no one to justify hurting a being that doesn't deserve to be killed.
Without our weapons or our machines, stranded in the wild we are no one. Without our knives we can't cut threw flesh, without our guns we can't hunt and animal, without our farms and cages we would barely get meat.
In the event of a tsunami it's the animals that run to safety while it's us the "superior ones" that require some machines to warn us. This is just like any other calamity.
If you live in an area where the vegetables are scarce or you have financial troubles it is understandable that you'll eat meat to survive. But to go out of your way to hurt, rape and kill an animal just for taste is cruel. We can't use us being superior as a reason to cause harm, anymore than a man can use him having superior strength to a woman as a reason to sexually assaulted her.
Hi, some good bits in this but also some incorrect facts. Sheep have contributed to the destruction of sapling trees and plants in Scotland along with the red deer. If the wolf came back and sheep agriculture was removed, the environment would return back to how it was before man which is better for the world in general - all in balance. I am vegan for several years now and haven't been healthier in my whole life - the only way to save the planet currently is to go vegan, as we cant sustain our growth and control our emissions for much longer. Watch What the Health and Plant Based News 'Vegan'
"the only way to save the planet currently is to go vegan" Wrong, a far better and more effective method is to choose not to have kids. It's humans that are causing climate change, not animals. We only have so many animals precisely because there are so many humans. Significantly reduce the human population and the problem is solved.
dmike3507 Haha. Would you rather never have kids, or just go vegan. Having kids is an actual human need, those who are unable to have kids go into depression and suffer.
Plus,you would be depriving the world of potential by reducing the number of new minds in comparison to the old people in a society.
If your thinking is correct , then that means you would think a major Epidemic will be good for the world, since that too would reduce the number of humans.
Not having kids or killing the live humans to reduce the human population is a horrible idea that will cause human suffering, going vegan will not cause humans to suffer, but will even solve the food crisis and allow all humans to have a steady food source that we can maintain.
Abdelrahman Mohamed
I would rather never have kids, but that's easy for me to say because I don't like kids to begin with. People completely ignore how massive of a burden children are on society. Estimates show that each kid costs about $300,000 in a lifetime including all food, healthcare, clothing, toys, daycare, etc. etc. People go into depression BECAUSE of kids, there is actual evidence to demonstrate this, but no parent would ever admit that. Having kids is only a human need to an extent, some people should still have kids in order to prevent a rapid population decrease, that would obviously be bad; I'm merely suggesting that we have fewer kids, like they do in Europe, to ensure a slow population decline, not a rapid one.
Going vegan will cause both humans AND animals to suffer. A huge percent of the world's population depends upon livestock to live, they don't have the technological capacity to adapt to a different lifestyle. You obviously don't live in a third world country. It will also cause animals to suffer because what are we going to do with all those BILLIONS of domesticated animals that cannot survive in the wild? We would either need a massive amount of money to sustain them or they will all slowly starve to death. If you can find solutions to both of those problems I'd be glad to hear them, but given the shallowness of your response I find that very hard to believe. You seem to have not thought anything out.
dmike3507 dmike3507 kids are a human need, but I do agree with having fewer kids. Having fewer kids will only delay an inevitable problem, not solve it. And even with our current consumption rates the world is still going into global warming, with a lot of natural habitats being lost for livestock. The only way this can be stopped using your method, is if we kill half the human population off, and even then the population would grow back up, and will face the same problem. The reality is, even if we stop having kids as much and maintain the current population count, we would still face global disasters due to pollution from livestock in a the hundreds of years to come. So you solution is not really a solution, it just delays the disaster.
Now I will answer to your 2 problems. 1. Animals eat vegetation, so for a country to have livestock, it must able to feed them, which means it has the technology to sustain huge amounts of agriculture. All countries have crops that feed the population or they import it. The fact is, livestock uses water and vegetation in much larger quantities than humans. To give you a much smaller amount of food in return. I am a medical student, and I can tell you in very simple words, that the higher you go in the food chain, the less efficient you food is. Meaning, if you were to eat the cow's food rather than the cow itself, it would be much more effective. You can search for it.
So in short:going vegan, would mean the end of human starvation.
2. You really think that the whole world will do it over night???? Get real. It will happen slowly until eventually all livestock has been stopped or reduced.
I think this answers both of you very shallow and poorly thought problems.
P.s i live in egypt. Which is pretty close to third world country.
Animal Watch you might be vegan but you have no clue how agriculture really works
1. You do get every nutrient on a vegan diet, apart from B12 and D, which are not obtained from food, vegan or not. B12 comes from bacteria in soil/fresh water, and D from the sun.
2. You forgot to mention that vegan diets contain lots of beans and legumes, which are awesome.
3. You highlighted all of the very real issues caused by animal agriculture, which are of the highest importance: the environment, climate change, land use etc. And there's far more where that came from when you discuss pollution and antibiotic resistant disease.
4. The range of criticisms against veganism were fairly silly, based on the unrealistic premise that we have to all go vegan overnight, and frankly self-serving in order to make the video seem more "balanced." A cultural and employment disruption is a temporary hiccup, and one worth having to combat climate change, factory abused animals and the chronic disease epidemic. Tobacco farmers had to get new jobs because guess what? Smoking causes lung cancer. Also, the point that some land could only be used for livestock farming is ultimately irrelevant: with all the land we are wasting now, we still produce enough food to feed 10-15 billion people. So we could use far less land, produce way more food, and still feed the entire world, while leaving those areas of barren land alone.
If you're going to make videos about this, do rudimentary research. This is silly. You make such bold claims like "not all nutrients can be found on a vegan diet" without even looking into what nutrients those are, and where they really come from. I appreciate the positive information about veganism - climate change and all of these other issues cannot be ignored - but there's no reason to spread mis/disinformation just to make the video more appealing to a wider audience.
Human Condition Vitamin b12 is in red meat..... and you don’t know what the word every means. You can die on a vegan diet without vitamin b12 supplements.
+Aviendha, vegan diets also deliver poor sources or inadequate quantities of retinol, menaquinone, choline, and zinc.
Human Condition i hate beans and legumes
Swanny94 ok... Then don't eat them in their natural form have them in veggie burgers, you don't even taste them.
Legumes? Why would you want to eat "food" which contains megadoses of lectins, phytate, trypsin inhibitors, and phytoestrogens?
It's incredible how seeming intelligent people enter a primitive defensive and aggressive mode when talking about vegans when they aren't one. Why can't people talk about things objectively and scientifically, it's pathetic that people feel they have to mock vegans if they aren't one. (I'm not)
Joseph X it's because vegans make them feel uncomfortable about the choices they make. A person just being vegan makes a non vegan think about why they're not and the reality of that conflicts with who they thought they were and they become hostile. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Holly, I am so dangerous, look out, I might hug a tree! In social science there is the concept of "white fragility", when a racist person gets triggered by their own racism, its why here in the US you frequently just don't discuss racism or face the triggering. I think with being vegan is the same, you say "I am vegan" and people over-react more than if you said "I am Hitler", if people know you are vegan they do horrible things, was just on a vlog where a mom was talking about her relatives were bragging they made her infant lick chicken, like who is depraved here, a vegan mom or someone that makes infants lick chicken?
veganism is like a religion to a lot of them im surrounded by them alot and all they like to talk about is being vegan and that everyone should be.
I was vegetarian for 5 years but decided to start eating meat again which i only do occasionally, my girlfriends pescetarian (eats fish but not meat) so i usually just eat like her.
I have nothing against vegans, vegan food is really nice but you dont see vegetarians ramming being veggie down everyones throat do you ?
As for objectively and scientifically i dont know many that do that im sorry to say.
More like meat-eating is a religion. It's against every better logic and ignores all science, just like believing in an imaginary friend, or pretending earth is flat, because a book said so.
And asking people to make compassionate choices and not murder animals, really isn't "ramming being veggie down everyones throat". In fact it's really just caring for animals. It's like people who aren't racist themself, or those who oppose racism and fight against it when they see it.
Going along with something you consider as injustice, like slaughtering and torturing sentinent beings for pure pleasure really isn't any better than doing it yourself. So yeah, vegans kinda have to ask others to go vegan. It's just like a person fighting racism would ask a racist to stop being a racist, isn't it? Yet you wouldn't say he is "ramming not hating black people for no logical reasons down everyone throats". It's common to react to a well funded criticism towards your lifestyle in a defensive way though. You were really trained to do so. In facte the media is making vegans look like crazy shitheads who wanna take your meat away, when they just want a little more compassionate world lmao
Joseph X go vegan ;)
I have never ever regretted going vegan. It's the best choice I've ever made, my life has turned upside down and I've never been as content and happy as I am now. There is no rational reason not to go vegan! Just give it a try ❤️
"...beer, cosmetics, sugar, condoms. Finding plant based alternatives isn't impossible but it wont happen overnight. " ... we already have plant based alternatives to every single one of these things. What.
Yeah lol XD
don't these come from plants anyways?
as in the materials to produce them. I know nature doesn't naturally make these objects by itself.
The companies manufacturing these products will simply make the alternative of the same products. Not so far now huh?
Condoms are made from latex - animal byproduct latex, not the tree, natural gum latex. Its quite tough to find vegan condoms. Only one brand here in Slovenia and probably none in most countries.
All of the "problems" in this video are based on the fact that this would happen suddenly. Fortunately if the world did go vegan or more vegan, it wouldn't be overnight.
But hey, better gradually than never right?
You’re right it can’t be overnight. Some guys I knew tried going vegan immediately but I think they were just trying to impress some girls. Of course they failed in a few days but because how they approached it wasn’t going to work and they weren’t really committed to that cause. I am an omnivore but if I had to go vegan I would make gradual changes in my diet over time in order to accept the changes better. Those guys failed because I made spaghetti and meatballs and chicken wings and they pounced on them two days into their challenge (which I didn’t know until they started chewing down then they began moaning that they failed).
It would be if some new virus swept onto the scene
Meghan Schwab I can guarantee you it will be never... you can only get so many gullible people!
Neil what about vitamin deficiencies like vitamin B12, and certain amino acid deficiencies (since plant proteins are nutritionally inferior in terms of amino acid content/profile)
"Although we can't get all the vitamins and nutrients only from plant foods..." 😑ARE YOU KIDDING ME??? Where did you get your info???🙄
holisticmaya yeah this is crazy coming from a reputable show.
You literally can't B12 is animal only, any supplement is animal derived as it forms in the gut.
@@LB-lb7pm b12 is produced by ubiquitous bacteria, so you're wrong. Also, there's a crap load of vegan b12 supplements out there. If you don't want to take any supplements, check out chlorella. 100% natural way of getting vegan b12.
Saxon Fury I’m getting all of my B12 from fermented plant based foods, such as kombucha, non dairy yogurt, kimchi etc.
@@doubledigga9538 Show me a way you can extract chlorella from the wild using easily available equipment ie a sieve, coffee filter. Do you find a pond and start sieving away? Or try to skim waves in the sea.
It is absolute bollocks to easily obtain it.
Then show me how you would go about purifying what you got with standard equipment like a saucepan. You can't f**king do it.
... "means that a vegan diet consist of JUST fruit, veggies, grains and nutts". You are being serious? "Just". This just go to show how the perception of a plant-based diet is flawed.
LeCaissie Yeah you either eat meat which is "normal" or you eat salad.
Lol yeah like there arnt things like bean tacos, mashed potatoes, all kinds of cereals/oatmeals with fruits, pasta, any number of vegetables, not to mention substitutes. Honestly i am more creative with my food than i ever was as a carnivore!
It’s sad that companies like bbc are supposed to report news and FACTS but because the animal product industry helps fund them the have a biased opinion just so they don’t get their funding cut.🙄
Humans are.omnivores don't know which idiot came up with this vegan bullshit.
@DC 10o01 You do realize bigger countries are the ones fucking up the environment with the retarded idea of mono crop farming that has failed at every other point in history? Only a greedy moron forces farmers to grow one crop on the same farm land for years on end. It's widely known that you don't do that you kill the nutrients in the soil and get garbage crops with barely any nutrition. Why do you think American is so shitty?
The conversion to the vegan lifestyle will be a slow, gradual process, not something that will happen instantly.
Most of those problems will not even exist. : )
Oh Lawd it's a "what if" scenario, like those videos I see in my recommended section all the time, "what if the earth stopped spinning?"
True that! It feels like a lot of the 'arguments' carnists come up with put into a fancy video. Time and energy better spend on doing better research and stop eating animal products :)
Yeah, this video is actually really good. But the whole world will not go vegan overnight and animals will gradually level themselves out!
ppl without thinking...
Will not happen over night but will get there slowly but surely!
Pointless examples shown here.
It’s like saying “driving at speed is dangerous, but what would happen if we stopped travelling our car at 90mph IMMEDIATELY. It would be like driving into a brick wall and we would likely die from impact.”
If the whole planet went vegan it would take a few generations, it would be very gradual.
This is plenty of time to find alternatives for certain products/foods, and alternative ways to grow crops and use the land.
The fact is filtering your protein through animals is massively inefficient.
The animal/meat people consume eats 5 times as much plant matter as what it ultimately then produces as meat/flesh.
We are taking huge huge amounts of grain/food away from starving countries to feed the livestock for meat.
The facts of the matter are if we phased out animal agriculture we would -
Massively slow down global warming. (Methane)
Massively slow down deforestation (for grazing)
Massively reduce - heart stacks/ strokes / cancer / diabetes / obesity/ MS / dementia.
Massively reduce the totally unsustainable and unethical GIGANTIC levels of slaughter and cruelty that is happening every minute of every hour of every day around the world.
I like the taste of meat
Micah Waterlow wow!
Where would those billions of farm animals go? If we have no use for them they would al, be killed, then you have huge piles of billions on dead animals around the globe.....
@@hennocraig3383 joke?
again, this is a gradual process that it's happening right now. Not fast enough though, so it's good to spread awareness
About a year ago we decided we would mostly eat vegan for various reasons, but turns out that "mostly" ended up being always because meat sort of turns my stomach now...
Awesome, Freyja. Ignore the defensive carnists and keep being a person who gives a shit! 👍❤️
Faken Name, I don't think I was writing in code. Someone writes a positive comment about how a great decision has improved her life and two people reply with snarky comments belittling that decision. Seems a little overly defensive to me.
Faken Name I'm sorry you feel that way. Still curious what the purpose of the snarky responses on this woman's nice comment were in that case.
Faken Name, good luck in your personal journey.
Veromorphia I didn't understand these replies.
Vegan for years now.. it cured two of my hereditary heart conditions and now my mom is actually vegetarian to lessen hers. It's been great and I wouldn't go back to eating meat for anything.
Faken Name Google "vegan double cheese burger". They do exist ;)
No need to enslave and kill animals, destroy the environment to eat delicious food and live a happy, healthy life!
Faken Name one of the best comments I have seen.
Faken Name in the eyes of vegans youre promoting your own death by heart disease ;)
Faken Name I haven't eaten a burger in 5 years. In fact they gross me out...
Faken Name yo I know this comment was from a while ago but a completely plant based, scary realistic burger was created called beyond meat. It's way healthier for you and apparently it has the same taste so ya just saying there's tons of alternatives out there that are surprisingly good, there's no need to damage your health, the environment and kill animals just for the sake of taste
" Oh my God, those cows r dying in the wild."
Slaughterhouse owner; " Here, hold my beer"
Yeah right! They're oblivious to the fact a BILLION animals are slaughtered every year.
@@SevenEllen And you are oblivious to trillions of animals eradicated by pesticides.
@@FoodieOmni We need to fix that problem aswell.Both are bad and lets first start with the ones we can fix by litteraly just changing what we eat( I know for some people it might not be possible but it is for most). Also since we make more plant food for just animals we eat that makes us use more pesticides and if we stoped producing animals the amount of pesticides would also decrease.
@@gaminggod2789 It is a myth that we use more crops to feed animals. We feed animals with the by-products from the plants used by humans. For example, soy meal is used as animal feed but soy meal is a by product of making oil for humans and factories. Soy oil is the most popular oil in the USA. No farmer will plant soy just to get soymeal. Same thing with corn.
@@FoodieOmni I dont belive what you said is true. Can you direct me to where you found this information?
Shes acting like everyone would go vegan overnight lol, cows arent gon be roaming around on the streets, because if people slowly transition into veganism the production rate of cow babies would go down. What is this weird logic. Strawmanning at its best
EDIT: I know it's a hypothetical statement, but my point is that she's not talking about it like it is, and she's critizising veganism as a whole too.
Did you even watch the video?...
I understand where you are coming from, I was thinking the same thing! Although she said that this would be the situation if 'the whole world turned vegan overnight'
Bella yes but she's talking about it like it's something that could possibly happen lol
It's a "what if" scenario. You can do that with absolutely anything - "What if [extremely unlikely scenario here]". It's not something that's going to happen, this video just shows what would change if that did happen. It can be interesting and informative, which is the purpose of this video. She even says in the video that this isn't something that's going to happen.
linasuperdina remember, humans are the reason why the population of cows is so high, we breed cows in order to get meat, cows are forced to have babies and they can't mate with male cows, the male cows serve purpose for sperm and after that serve no purpose for the meat industry since they don't make milk and there meat is not as good as the females. The cows are not only the result of inbreeding, chicken, sheep, lamb and even domesticated animals are in breed because companies make money out of them and we pay for it.
Arid land could be used for solar farms.
mattem just what I was thinking.😊
FACTS...
Thats a great idea!!! I never thought of that!
Luke Gege NOPE... what a ridiculous comment you have there...
And you can grow amazing crops around and under solar farms. They actually see HIGHER amounts of food grown.
Being vegan is THE BEST thing I’ve done.
@@oceanwave4142 yea
You haven't accomplished much in your life have you....😬
@@Amazonkiller65 wow, deflecting at its finest. Well done 👏🏻
Im proud of you!!
The production of one calorie of animal protein requires more than ten times the fossil fuel input as a calorie of plant protein.
Veganism has made my life incredible. I have never been more thankful to be apart of a community that is so welcoming, kind and thoughtful. I was on a very dark path before, my life and outlook on life has completely changed. Thank you vegan community
Thijs Tharn huh? I mean as a technicality paying for those things does entail enslaving, torturing and killing animals? Is it wrong for people to point it out or is it too Politically correct for people?
Thijs Tharn what are you talking about? Majority of animals are tortured. They're caged and processed in factory farms, then brutally killed at the end of their young life at a mere 1 year old. They are kept from living their life that they are entitled to, instead are subject to forceful rape to procreate at an unnatural rate to feed an unhealthy addiction we have to meat.
With regards to dairy, female cows are raped continuously to become pregnant in order to produce milk. Their young are then stolen from then almost instantly, and if they are male, they're subject to become veal, or females are subject to the same fate as their mothers. If you don't believe me maybe do some research or work on a farm.
With regards to egg production, hens are given tons of hormones to speed up egg production, kept in tiny cages and debeaked without anaesthetic. If young that are born turn out to be males, they are sent to a grinder which grinds them to death. Do some research.
Plants do not have a brain nor a nervous system, we cannot cage and torture plants even if we wanted to. Bit of a silly moot point, "kiddo".
And with regards to ISIS and Islam, I am very much critical of Islam and it's belief system and so are many vegans (Vegan Gains also made a video on Islam). We don't agree with the slitting of throats in the name of a God that has never been proven nor believe anything should be killed whatsoever. I have read the Qur'an myself and have had many confrontations with Muslims about their views on homosexuality and non-believers. But I'm not sure where you got the correlation between being vegan and being in denial of violence within religious beliefs?
Thijs Tharn cows barely eat plants Hahahahahaha I know right they eat Like 10% grass 90% worms?!
Thijs Tharn, if you don't want to give up your bacon and cheese, that's fine - the crap's still legal so it's up to you. But why respond to this positive comment about someone improving her life with such argumentative and cognitively dissonant BS? Farm animals are as intelligent and sensitive as cats and dogs. They live short painful lives and fight and cry on the way to slaughter. So yes, purchasing these products is funding torture. The first thing to ask oneself in ethical decisions is what one would want for themselves. Do unto others and all that. But you do you.
Man people really start pulling out the alternative facts when their junk food is threatened.
"Would you be a vegan to try and save the planet?"
I'd also add: to save innocent animals, and to save yourself from heart disease.
All three are a big no for me. Thanks though.
No mate coconut is high in saturated fats more than twice than even butter yah and have you seen vegan smokers and lung cancer and brain damage
@@TalkrenFOOL
Going vegan was by far the best thing I have ever done for myself. My only regret is not doing it sooner!
The Peaceful Plate yesssss
Yep +1
lmao and how long have you been vegan? All it's good for is the initial cleansing effect. Which anyone can do in the first place adding more produce to their diet and eating better. Or juicing/fasting. In other words the benefits of veganism are short term.
The benefits of veganism are life-long, as has been stated in many journals including the Academy of Nutrition & Dietetics (jandonline.org/article/S2212-2672(16)31192-3/fulltext) and this article from PNAS (www.pnas.org/content/113/15/4146.full) but yes you carry on with your anecdotal evidence
The Peaceful Plate *high five* completely agree
"Whole world cannot go vegan over night so yeah we bother then" lol the logic behind in this video is epic! Veganism isn't about becoming perfectly vegan over night. It's a gradual process, your intention to reduce the harm and do your best while trying out new products and veganizing your lifestyle and likes is how it goes. I am vegan and I eat more junk food than fruits, guess what bbc, plenty of junk food is vegan so are mock meat, dairy & cheese alternatives etc etc... My life is same as before going vegan, it's just the food and products I use veganized, but still based on my values, likes and dislikes. I did it over a long period of time and am glad I did. I didn't fool myself with unrealistic goals and expectations like "Whole world has to go vegan over night, even if did, predators would eat animals anyway so why bother? It's okay to continue eating animals in fact, we _must_ keep doing it, it looks like it is working out well for our profit regardless of the negative consequences" That's not how change happens. You challenge the belief and create solutions to a problem, psychology 101 duh!!
She didn't say "why bother". She herself said that it would be a gradual process...
tw you seriously take pride in eating vegan junk food? You could have stayed omnivorous if you wanted to eat crappy food.
Not everyone becomes vegan just for health reasons. Some people actually want to reduce animal suffering.
tw h
It's a "what if" scenario. It's obviously not going to happen but this video expresses what would happen if people were to go vegan overnight
I've had cancer for the good part of 16 years. I was already vegetation my whole life. But once I tired vegan, 2 months later I went into remission and it never came back. Now I'm not saying that veganism will cure cancer, but it may be a step in the right direction. Just think on it
Vegan prevents some cancers so you are right
It does cure certain types but being vegan causes other problem like in pregnancy you will have to eat bowls of bean to get enough certain nutrients you would need for the baby inside and and that’s why cravings come in to fuel you in more and meat can satisfy you a lot more then vegetables and beans but also congrats
@@click2357 thank you for your informative input. Unfortunately in my case, because of my condition I’ll never be able to have my own biological children. A lot has changed in my case and diet since I first commented this, I’m on a much healthier and balanced path now ☺️ still cancer free though!!
@Jordan C thank you for the information
2 weeks of being vegan myself! I’m at my best self I’ve ever been! Healthier, mentally healthier, energy, morally just so proud. I’ve been intentional with cooking and eating and have AMAZING meals!! Love this lifestyle!!
Congratulations!
I've been a vegan or vegetarian for
almost 25 years back before it was
really even a thing! It is sooo much
easier to go vegan now than when I
began my journey!
Maybe he transitioned to veganism with vegetarianism. A lot of people do that. And I agree, it's a lot easier that way. I was vegetarian, and I'm on my way to moving to a plant-based diet. It's pretty easy, considering I hate milk and eggs already. Still working on that darn cheese though. It's hard though, as the only veg in the family haha.
susanna lung i did the same too.....it is a lot easier that wat
Shreya Puthran, exactly, plus you're still benefitting the environment and everything on the way there. And it increases the likelihood of you staying vegan and continuing to benefit the environment, your health, and the animals.
God impressive. Even a few years back it was different from now. I got more and more shocked about how many products I can buy now so easily. I found vegan "chicken" nuggets yesterday 😂😂😂
Can someone list me the pros and cons of veganism? I'm on the fence about trying it and just need a no bullshit/propaganda answer on what's good and bad about it?
After 4 months of being vegan my body is at its healthiest! I feel happy! And i enjoy it !
Awesome!
I don’t and I’m following all of the rules. Eating a variety of all the foods and a lot of it. Still feeling tired and sluggish and worse than when I ate meat.
hi..are you still vegan?
You prob were very unhealthy to begin with
@kazinka007 ps4 Gaming there are people who are vegan for years
1.)People wouldn't loose their jobs as more people would become farmers that grow vegetables, hence new jobs, all they would have to do is switch.
2.) Plastic doesn't come from a cow, we don't make glue that way anymore, and a bunch of other things that definitely don't need to come from a cow such as sugars, ever heard of sugar canes? Also milk, theres many alternatives, and theres alternatives for everything mentioned on that list if you do the research. We don't even need beef gelatine to make jelly anymore.
3.) The amount of money that is spent on feeding over populated animals (due to man) could be spent instead on feeding the many homeless and the poor in certain areas of the world that would solve world hunger.
4.) "Oh no what would happen to the animals if they were all released into the wild?" I'm sorry my bad, murdering, enslaving, eating and taking away their children is by far the better thing to do.(insert face palm)
I rest my case XD
Gunki Green releasing animals to the wild could cost damage worth billions and trillions of dollar and over population aswell
Nothing will over populate as many of the animals like cats racoons mongoose snakes and dogs would kill them
@@pappubenchoarmypappurocks266 Yeah, because we just have cats racoons mongoose, snakes and dogs running rampant kill animals 5 times their own size.... Where's your common sense dude. If we released these animals to the wild, they would overpopulate. Unless you live somewhere that has lions, tigers, and other big cats/predators like that, then maybe they won't overpopulate in that area, but in most places, there are no predators that would kill these farm animals. Cats are not going to kill these animals, racoons are not going to kill these animals, mongoose wont kill these animals, snakes wont kill these animals, dogs won't kill these animals. The only animal that they probably would eat is chickens, but their aren't enough animals around that would be predators to chickens.
@@ohno8686 HELLLL YEA and they would eat all of our vegan food :(
All veganism does is rot your teeth and brains and turn you into skinny zombies who are addicted to sugar and destroys your hormones and health. You only get all the fat soluable vitamins from animal products. Veganism is a sure way to depopulation.
Vegan here for almost two years, never going back. Love my plant foods and the animals too much to destroy my home the planet.
Been a vegan for around a year and a half; it's been great :) also enjoy seeing my family adapt to healthier choices even though they are not vegan.
meat is very healthy though
So why are we not looking at the more realistic version: What if we would have a gradual change into veganism? Because than all the cons seem to disappear
Yeah that is exactly why they dont want to look at it, because it makes sense and they cant sensationalize it.
Zappiturtle humans are not natural meat eaters. Real meat eaters swallow their meat whole or in large chunks. They don’t chew like we and other herbivores do. We’ve learned to eat meat due to various reasons in the past . I mean I’ve seen a. I’ve seen on RUclips a video of a cow eating a chicken but that doesn’t make cows meat eaters
@@DaleBlackBass We cook our food dumbass. How the fuck.are you gonna feed poor people on only plants. It's not sustainable when your crops get destroyed and have nothing but reserves to eat you live in a privileged world
I can't believe how intellectually dishonest this video is
Tobias Balk what doesn't logically makes sense about the points raised in the video?
Your argument does not make any sense whatsoever. Veganism is the answer to stop animal exploitation, it never stated to end racism, discrimination and violence.
I think you are talking about vegetarian countries and not vegan countries, but why would you even refer to the past. we are living in the present. We have all made mistakes in the past, look at the separation, slavery and ww2. The consumption of animal derived products will also be on that list some day.
Nathaniel Winston you forgot to mention that veganism is not about preventing all animal suffering and death, but as much as practically possible. There is a HUGE difference between killing animals unintentionally in a process of farming, and forcefeed animals in cages to get them fat to then send them to a slaughterhouse where their lives will end against their will, which is done for nothing but someone's taste pleasure.
You are right about the deforestation part, a lot of rainforests are destroyed because of it. The part you are intellectually dishonest about is the fact that these crops are mainly grown for animal agriculture purposes, GMO soybeans in particular, these are grown to fatten up the animals that meat eaters would eat. And Cattleranching as well (Source: Butler, 2012 ; Mongabay)
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@KebenaranBukanMilikAndaAtaupunSaya Veganism is a way of living which seeks to exclude, as far as is possible and practicable, all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose. Read what veganism is about, before you shitpost.
I'm a vegan for 6 months now and this the best decision I made in my entire life 🙏😊😊💪
if being a vegan is the best decision you ever made in your life, you probably don't have one.
Same. 7 plus years now for me.
Seriously, BBC..? Seriously? This is so, so silly! I thought BBC did their homework, but you REALLY need to look into facts and remake this, because this video contains a LOT of misinformation.
What Would Happen If The World *Doesn't* Become Vegan....
Well i guess drought and climate change and collapse of human society. Uh, but we could have an "unemployment crisis" if we would go vegan over night.. lmao.. quality video
LunnarisLP - unfortunately this is the problem I see in most people's arguments anymore. The United States going to end if hulllary gets elected, the United States will fall if trump is elected. If you don't listen to me and me alone your whole world will crash down around you. Even if far off consequences are true telling people it like that psychologically only will put up ones defenses, quensfioning their beliefs will actually is psychologically more likely to lock them down further in their beliefs and no ones accounting for others and especially their own confirmation biases when looking at the vast ocean of information that is properly, improperly or properly twisted. I don't understand why people don't discuss and then talk about small steps, people are better with things on the short term, unfortunately looking down long term and comparing it to losing ones job, not being able to feed their kids now, pay their bills, immediate hardship as much as you scoff at whole industries dissolving overnight is a big deal and people will think about immediate issues before long term hypothetical consequences that they have no real perception of. I have my own problems in all these areas I am human but everything I look at and read especially if it's something that makes me quickly either say yeah that seems right, too quickly shows some sort of confirmation bias on myself as I'm agreeing without even looking at the opposing research. If I do the opposite and immodestly call bullshit I do the same and call myself out on it. Just in terms of communication and progress I hope we can get better because current ways are two sides of every issue being reinforced by confirmation biases, closing themselves off in social groups that reinforce these, dehumanizing the opposition (all trump supporters are racists misogynists or all Dems hate democracy and are a threat to freedom), never even giving any opposing ideas/thoughts/research/studies/opinions even a chance, and then going to war in arguments with opposing side and everyone in between only reinforcing the people on our sides deeper into our trenches by confirming their biases and pushing the opposition into their trenches by instead of talking about how neither of us know let's share info and ideas and see what comes out as we may not agree at the end but hope we both come away with something new. It seems we only want to be right, everyone knows there are issues and falling prey to our cynicism when we see they are not being fixed is easy and wanting to find a solution or something to blame is reasonable, but then only claiming that is right and not expanding and listening to others or only trying to convert everyone else to our own way of living and thinking is where we lose if. Sorry for the long post, hope you and everyone else has a good day.
climate change causes the world to end..
Thank you!!! Exactly what I was thinking!
Nothing will happen to "the world" itself. It will just keep doing it's thing. With or without us. We're not ending the world, just our species... Prematurely :P
I'm furious. I want my license fee back; I definitely won't be renewing it. The BBC is publicly funded, it should not be allowed to spread misinformation like this.
Haha "misinformation" okay buddy. This is litteraly facts you fucktard
Here here! It's no secret the BBC are anti-vegan, they're so STUPID! The irony is that they're HELPING veganism by pissing everyone off so much, the meat-eaters too by patronising us all! :D
@@orcqa2534 no it's not - "Plants can't supply all vitamins and minerals we require" - this is literally a lie.
Enoby Dark'ness Dementia Raven Way say that to millions of healthy vegans in world... including top athletes in the NBA, NFL and many other leagues and individual sports...
Constance wow! Yeah you should go back to reading the onion...
I am vegan. And it is one of the most fulfilling aspects of my life!
Well, I became a vegan and feel way better now! Even though the first month was not easy, now it is a normal diet for me. When I see meat it's like plastic bag or some other object you can't eat for me. It's just not food where's the problem with that? I was the one who always said "I could never go vegan"- haha here I am💁🏽 I should have gone vegan many years ago the advantages are too good to miss right now. I love it! #veganissexy
I think most of vegans were the ones saying 'I could never be vegan' :P
La Mii
what a pathetic person you are
So we shouldn't be vegan because we can't buy makeup. Still think that a red lip or an eyeliner is less important than the lives os animals
"vegetables" *shows an eggplant, a pepper and a mushroom*
None of these are vegetables.
Hristin Andonov I know mushrooms aren't even plants
Hristin Andonov Scientifically no, but for some reason in cooking they are all grouped into that category...
Dietary classifications aren't the same as scientific classifications. It's not complicated.
Hristin Andonov Hahahah yeah :D what a moron
Mushroom is a fungus , eggplant and pepper are fruits
i'm vegan. It's better, honestly.
They won't believe you, sadly.
Shakawkaw000 I'm sorry you're wrong. Honestly. Veganism is better.
Your opinion is wrong, thats like a herion addict saying herion is better thats my opinion.
Shakawkaw000 do you get something out of trolling?
Shakawkaw000 You believe that its morally OK to eat animals. You have been indoctrinated. Like you I grew up believing it is healthy and necessary to eat the corpses of dead animals when in reality it is unhealthy and unnecessary.
Becoming a vegan was the best thing that happened to me! I live healthier, feel less guilty in general and I appreciate food more than before. I would recommend it to everyone and I think that veganism causes nothing but good things (as long as the society has got the time to adjust itself to it of course)
Farmland returning to native forest???
Farmers will not just leave their land to 'return to nature'!
They will use every inch of that land to generate revenue. That is the nature of intensive agriculture.
41DegreesSouth its also preventing them from going into bankruptcy, lets just let people go poor because their area of work is deemed immoral by like 1% of the total population
41DegreesSouth The problem is that agriculture is the thing that is killing one of the Earth's lung: The Amazonian forest. Vegans ignore this. It's not pastures, with its cows, sheep or pigs, it's agriculture.
What is happening is that farmers are cutting down the trees and burning the soil, to prepare it for havest, but once the soil is burned the trees cannot grow back (that is a fact), because the soil becomes too dry and poor in nutrients for trees to take root.
If the whole world turned vegan, even if it was slowly, you could kiss goodbye to the Amazonian forest, because the agriculture problem would intensify and then the planet would be doomed, because the Earth would only have one lung left: the Borealis Forest and the amount of CO² we are releasing (even without husbandry) is too great to handle for only the Borealis.
The ocean is already near max capicity of how much it can stock in CO² and methane. Veganism is not a long term answer, eco-energy is our shot at reducing the load we put onto our forests. After we have eco-energy, then we can pour our money into educating the world on a balanced diet (which does not need to include milk at all, that is a scam by corporations). Rn, corporate greed dictates our diets and energy, but we have to fight that to get a chance at savin the planet we call home.
BBC, sources to back up your claims would be nice
mattem there are many, try watching the documentary Cowspiracy, it’s on Netflix
Its the BBC, its all made up anyways
Swanny94 this is actually all true though, if you look into the facts
Mack & Marley it’s actually all bulls hot though, if you have B12 in your diet which allows your brain to function properly, which clearly you are deficient in
Swanny94 dude it is so easy to supplement b12 as a vegan. You know clean b12? B12 that doesn't clog your arteries or give you diabetes and all that. You should do some research
I just became a vegan last week and it cleared up all my acne, destroyed all my hemorrhoids, got rid of my migraines, and cured my rosacea. Thank you vegan community, for showing me the way to a happier, healthier life!
I like eating cows as much as the next person, but I think vegans have a great point about reducing cow consumption in particular because of the reasons listed above in the video. They require so much land, water, and other resources. There are nutrients that we have a difficult time getting without consuming animal products, so I don't think it realistic to expect ALL humans to be able to make the switch. Personally, I think we (westerners, anyway) out to incorporate eating more insects, since they'd be far less resource intensive to farm.
I mean you're not wrong
We can get all the nutriants we need from a plant based diet I don't think you know what nutriants are I think you meant vitamins if so yes we can't get B12 in a plant based diet but it's not hard to get
Will Nottel this why I hunt my food and vegans at my school get pissed off
I hunt one deer a year
4 to 5 wild hogs
And 2 wild Turkeys
And a shit ton of vegetables and I ain't even fat or obese I don't contribute to any of that shit that goes on in slaughter houses I'm on their side
cows suffer every day of their lives they can smell they own blood for ass long as they live with no windows they get sick and have no mercey me and you wouldn't wana be there
you forgot about the very intense cruelty. If we were plants we would feel hardly anything while dying and if we were humans after we would have no problems eating plants but if we were animals and sufferd every day of our lives we would become different humans even if this is the last thing you care about you will change your diet in a second. Iv seen people that are homeless bein more giving and open hearted than people well of because of they experience what difficulty is. This is the effect of karma and reincarnation if you like killing a cow to enjoy you will get a body to be slaughted next or maybe that of a tiger who allways have to struggle a lot to get food
"But what would happen to the animals tho?"
I don't know, but I'm pretty sure anything's better than slavery and torture.
you think the wild is like a disney film where all the animals get together and sing songs?
No, the wild is a brutal place, where animals face slow painful deaths from famine, disease, injury and from being eaten alive.
Nautika
Kill every single carnivorous animal on the planet if you don’t want prey animals to be killed, drama queen
Vegans are the way forward.
And I am one of them.
Im not:)
Thanks for posting this! I've been vegan for 5 1/2 years for ethical and environmental reasons, and some of the benefits of the world going vegan were stunning even to me. I think those benefits would far outweigh any potential negatives that could occur; after all, if we keep pumping greenhouse emissions into the air, none of the other factors will matter much when the planet is practically uninhabitable.
Josef Lincoln sent me here.
Ayyy
Papa Joe
Same
Where's his comment that vegans are annoying I was laughing so hard
Paris Ayaz me too!
Going on 3 weeks with no animal derived products, eating only starches, grains, fruits, vegetables - I feel awsome! Losing belly fat, saving money, and I have more energy!
Given that global veganism would be a gradual change, most of the negatives in this video would be dealt with appropriately, as there will be a lot of time to discuss how to solve the problems.
should have posed "would you reduce that amount of animal products you consume" instead of going directly vegan
Sparrow flight Depends on the person's mind and how much will they have to do something, I went Vegetarian overnight after doing my research and here I am in the present Vegan.
Sparrow flight It's a start honestly for those interested in going Vegan and are not comfortable with the drastic change I'd say Vegetarian diet is what you should start with.
Sparrow flight Also you're not demonized for eating whatever foods you wish you have free will not pushing a agenda here.
Sparrow flight I changed cold turkey
I changed overnight. would not go back if someone paid me
The whole world should never be only vegan, vegetarian or non vegetarian.
The whole world should be vegan, vegetarian and non vegetarian.
This is full of fallacies.
explain
no
Thanks for those words of wisdom, Marcos. Really specific and insightful.
like what?
It is the most vegan vegetarian friendly place in the world! Only 30% of the meat eaters there eat it on a regular basis. Culturally it is very vegetarian/ vegan. In fact my father asked in a few restaurants for a meat curry and we were laughed at and told that the establishment was a vegetarian restaurant! haha ...I couldn't think of many places like that, which I have been to, except maybe Taiwan!.. but whatever, just my 2 cents...
Transitioned from vegetarian to Vegan ❤️😋 I’m excited for this new Alkaline diet 💗 Much love to you all
Used to be vegan, then went to being vegetarian and back to being an omnivore, best decision I made for both physical and mental health! No restriction to what I can eat. Not for everyone.
We can re-aerate and mineralized the soil thru composting and mushroom fields .. there are no downsides of worldwide Veganism.
I'm not a vegan, but I don't object to veganism. In fact, I understand it perfectly.
What I do NOT understand or condone, however, is the arrogance of people who try to shove their lifestyle or their belief system down my throat. I never thought I'd say that, but I believe some vegans are even worse in that regard than both religious fanatics or atheist activists.
Wether it's a passive-aggressive "you know you're killing the planet, right?" or a phony, falsely concerned "these burgers will kill you" or, even worse, a self-righteous "at least I'm doing the right thing", a lot of vegans, a freaking LOT of vegans have an infuriatingly arrogant attitude to others. Now, don't get me wrong, I will not call vegans a "cult", or anything like that.
But, unless some members of the vegan community start to understand that the WAY they convey their message is the real reason why people are annoyed with said message and come to hate vegans as a whole, I don't think people will stop calling them a cult.
You know I think there's a difference between 'shoving their belief systems down your throat' and simply trying to educate people on the serious health, ethical and environmental issues eating meat causes... there's always some people who are preachy and judgemental I definitely agree! But as a fellow meat eater I have to say I see more meat eaters bashing vegans than vegans do to them:/
Olga Rose you’re probably right, this is my viewpoint from this side of the fence. And I agree, plenty of people are perfectly respectful and won’t try to « convert » you... it’s the ones that do that get on my nerves.
Olga Rose wait, is this a respectful, calm and quiet debate on veganism in the RUclips comment section? That’s got to be a first, surely...
lethe56 yeah I'm from the northern side of the U.K. so everyone seems to be heavily into meat, maybe that's why vegans get a lot of stick over here! But other places I'm sure it's a lot worse!
lethe56 i do believe it is 🙌🏼🙌🏼😂
I am a vegan. Been almost a year now. Before I was vegetarian for 3 years. Never rejected anything. I did it for the animals, for the planet and for myself! Feel great with it. Don't be afraid to try.
It's obviously that the world won't come vegan overnight. It's a process like any other. So, if someday the most people became vegan, the system will already be adaptaded to sustain it. We already have alternatives to most of products that were quoted, we just need to increase the production.
Oh, and those cultures that keep the animal culture for tradition don't explore, torture and kill the animals like the meat industry. One thing is completely different from the other.
It’s also obvious that you can’t spell.
I'm twelve and the only vegetarian in my family. I want to become vegan but it will be very hard for my family to provide for my lifestyle aswell as theirs, not to mention expensive, so for now I am remaining vegetarian until I move out and get my own food, so I can ease into veganism. Even just being vegetarian has given me so many great results!
Rice, beans, potatoes. :) You can do it with little money easily. My boyfriend spends 60 euro on money per month, and surely he is eating more than you would. It is all possible. :) Talk to you parents if they can take you shopping so you can pick foods for yourself. Go for seasonal veggies and fruits to make it cheaper. Whole foods, not processed vegan stuff, they are expensive indeed but also less healthy. From what I remember when I was 12 I was able to cook myself meals totally. So even if your parents don't want to spend extra time to prepare meals for you, you can do it yourself. Also, they possibly can't force you to eat animal products. Remember - it is your health, your life. Being vegan at such a young age will give so much in the future. Listen to your heart, you are a lovely being. :)
i was in the same situation, but i realized its really not that much harder to just... not eat the yogurt. or the eggs. or the cheese. i should also add that my parents don’t buy anything “extra” for me (besides like almond milk) , because i eat staples we already had or were very cheap like oats, bananas, berries, beans, rice, spinach, etc.
Please check into what plants actually do to your body hunny. I was a vegan and it really hurt my health. By the time you’re 20 you could have some major problems!! No one is talking about the health problems that come down the line. Most plants are man made at this point check out ex vegan videos and the carnivore diet before deciding to eat only plants!! Just get all the facts esp if you’re only 12!!
The only vegan food that's more expensive are the processed things like cheese and chocolate, but things like that twice a month won't do any harm to the bank account. Things like that you can make yourself at him - Vegan chocolate mousse can be made with cocoa, blended dates and banana and added chopped nuts. Vegan cheese takes more work, but it's very nice. It's made with pecans, garlic, lemon, chives, and other things I can't remember right now, but it's worth looking up the recipe online.
Maybe you already are vegan by now. Just make sure you are supplementing with B12 and vitamin D especially in the winter months and eat a rainbow diet. Congrats anyway for leaning toward a vegan life style.
I’m glad to see a video that actually states the facts and shows the effects of veganism instead of just bashing it. As for the problems mentioned, health is not an issue as long as you eat enough and you fix any gut problems that have come up from years of a bad diet and you can get ALL your nutrients on a plant-based diet easily. Vitamin D and B-12 are the only two that people should focus on and that’s resolved with sunlight (v-D), supplements (both), or fortified food (both). Arid farm land can be transformed into fertile farm land through desert farming (which BBC actually already has an article on... 🤔), and the rest of the points are so easily resolve by the fact that this is a gradual shift, not an abrupt one as shown in the video. Because so much of the world is uneducated or refusing to go vegan, there is plenty of time to lower animal production, killing, and abuse phasing out animal-based products and allowing the growth of plant-based products (meat->mock meat, gelatin-> pectin, leather -> cactus leather, so on and so forth). It’s time to go vegan everyone; your health, the environment, and the animals are at serious risk. And there is no way the message will propagate fast enough to suddenly turn the world vegan so there is no excuse for you to make the change.
Save the world 🌎🐮🐣🌱❤️
I dont think it's necessary for everyone to go vegan, but everyone should at least make an effort to cut down on their meat and dairy consumption
You can still eat it, but just don't do it in excess because it's not good for you or for our planet
MelanAphrodite your statemeant is good to an extent but it would be better just to stop eating meat all together the whole process of meat is just a sick disgusting industry that no one should support
No I don't eat meat but if you do eat meat you are supporting animal slaughter
Because when you pay for meat your paying the slaughterhouse, also the fact that most people know how the animals are treated and they still buy meat is supporting it even more if you didn't support it then you would stop eating meat
In what world is beans potatoes rice and bread more exspensive than meat!
Sam Barton so you want people who cant afford to buy tons of veggies fruit etc to survive on beans potatoes rice and bread? I dont get your point
This video is so weird we aren't omnivores and never were... Sorry lady
Albert Dahl
Oh, please do explain how humans aren't omnivores.
What are we then?
We are omnivores stupid we are all supposed to be that its science.
Hey, it's Mady! I haven't run across any of the BBC Earth videos with her in a while. One of the problems I've run into before when my diet shifted to eating almost nothing but plant based foods, was that I needed to eat three to almost five times as much food to feel full and satisfied, where with meat, even just a few ounces can curb my cravings in a hurry. With the plant based diet, I was eating myself out of house and home in under a week because I was always hungry, and my groceries per week went from $20-$30 dollars for just myself up to or over $60 because of having to not only buy more, but that many vegan products are also WAY more expensive. I was also tired all of the time, and lacked energy to do much of anything.
I imagine there's an art to eating a vegan based diet. For example, in feudal Japan, a typical meal for a peasant might be millet mixed with rice, a pickled plum, vegetables like edamame, and of course fish when they could get it. It had to be filling enough to last through a long, hard day, but with minimal cost.
What were, or rather weren’t you eating? 😳
Sure, you can fill up on salad and steamed veggies but not get rough calories 🥗
Grains, Legumes, some nuts & seeds and maybe a bit of extra plant fat/oil to increase caloric density 😉
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Get used to going without meat. It's only going to get more expensive as time goes by.
Probably get cheaper if demand continues to increase, actually. But I really hope you're right!
Osiris Malkovich no
hi, i am interested to know "veganism"...
why people are "vegan" and what are the benefits of being a vegan?
Have a look at the documentary Cowspiracy and Forks Over Knives, both are on Nexflix and are full of fantastic impartial information and facts on why a plant based diet is a great way to live.
People can be vegan for different reasons some are because the environmental impact and others for health reasons but the most common you'll hear is to reduce animal suffering as far as possible. So benefits could be a healthier diet or knowing that you significantly reduce your carbon footprint or knowing that you can eat great food and live a healthy life without unnecessarily harming animals
intention is good but i think more research should be done
+Ashikur Rahman
Our philosophy is that as there is no single nutrient that cannot be supplied on a vegan diet, eating animals creates needless suffering and death, also as it is a needless industry, it is needlessly destroying the planet and dairy and meat are the biggest contributors of saturated fat in people's diet, and saturated fat is a nutrient you should limit, which is what most people dont do, and its why a lot of people die of heart disease and diabetes.
Search for "101 Reasons to go vegan"
Very good video!
Cheers mate
I would love to reduce my dependency on animals. I eat meat and use animal byproducts every day and when you really think about how many animals I rely on each day it’s shocking!
The environmental affect is another motivator for me.
I am very seriously considering a move into a vegan lifestyle.
I somehow didn’t enjoy this video 🤔
Why spreading such nonsense?
Why not talking about realistic scenarios?
What nonsense? And what realistic scenarios?
Of course I'll be a vegan, not only for saving animals but for the planet or else how will o live Without a habitat!
Thankyou! My reason for going vegan entirely! :D No environment means no animals, humans, plants or water. It must be our number one priority.
I already am a seven year old vegan, fasting as much as I can so to reduce my impact in this planet
EVERYTHING WOULD THRIVE
Why do we need to totally be vegan? What is wrong with balance? Human evolved to be omnivores, mostly eating plant based but have a meat feast once in a while. If you are vegan because of the animals cruelty, I understand and respect that. However, it is not all black and white, most farm animals have been breed by human to be like they are, for example a chicken would not survive more than a week in the wild. So what would happen, you let them all die. Anyhow, I have thought about this a lot and for the planet and animal welfare I have decided to become mostly plant based but I eat meat and animal products on occasions. My rules are simple at home or at work plant based, outside if I go to friends house or restaurant I eat what is on offer, that way I don't cause offense, I feel healthy, and the planet is better off. Also I saw a study recently that compared the impact of vegan and vegetarian on the environment and there is really not much different. Anyway I think people should eat less animal products and the vegan movement is doing a great job at spreading the idea ( even my 70 year mum is now trying Android o cut down on meat) forcing companies to develop better produces and giving people more choices. At the end of the day it is a really person choice I respect the vegan, vegetarian, farmers( if they are ethical, try to do their best and respect their animals).
Are there links to the sources used for the information in this video? I’m interested in doing some further research.
Let the meat eaters keep eating there second hand protein. Let them re-digest what was already digested by another animal. Think about it
san eee
How can you be so stupid?
You say that like it's a bad thing, but it's actually quite logical. Already so bioavailable.
Here to Annoy you . Explain. Because the animal only has protein in its muscles because it has eating protein. An animal can't just invent it's own protein. So ur eating the animal the get what the animal got from plants. So it can't be healthier than the plant form surly ?
san eee
No, you can’t. They don’t get ALL of the proteins from their food. Do some research before you post youtube comments like this
Here to Annoy you. Were does it come from then. U think there body can make its own protein? That's new
I always wondered what being vegan or vegetarian would be like......
HM Kim it is just like being a non vegetarian only a lot of people hate you for some reason..
I do it for my health and it's pretty great feeling. I like it and recommend it. Plus if you like cooking it's really fun to cook vegan because you have to think a lot more and I like a challenge.
It's an amazing feeling to know you're living your life without violence.
I've been vegan for 4 months which is not a long time but I've never felt better! you know, you align yourself with your morals. I've always loved animals but somehow ate them bc society told me to do it. but now it makes much more sense not to eat them. and especially dairy. cow's milk is made for baby cows and not for humans. it's just so bizarre if you really think about it. humans drink milk from cows?! makes zero sense. I think you should watch 101 reasons to go vegan OR Gary Yourofsky's speech. hope these will help you! wish the best for you if you'll try a plant-based diet later on! 💕
HM Kim Good for you and the world!
I've worked on farms and I tried living vegan for about two years. My conclusion from my experiences is that what most vegans think farming is like and what farming is actually like really don't resemble each other very much, therefore I honestly cannot see the movement having any appreciable impact on agriculture or going beyond being anything but a personal decision. Can't change a system you don't understand and don't want to understand.
Ultimately I can't see myself ever picking it up again. I'm going to remain an omnivore and work on growing my own food.
We are NOT omnivores
Yes we are. You know what would happen to a herbivore if it only ate meat? It would get an intestinal obstruction and die a painful death. Why can humans eat meat without and worry of obstructions if we are supposedly herbivores?
That is not true. Humans CAN eat and digest raw meat, or dishes like Carpaccio wouldn't exist. They are made possible because of modern agriculture, that prevents the animals of getting parasites of all sorts. Also, animals like chickens tend to be infested with Campylobacter and therefore shouldn't be eaten raw - it is not the fact that the meat is raw that we shouldn't eat it, it is simply because of the bacteria. Eating raw meat from a wild animal also wouldn't be a good idea, because it can be infested with parasites (that's the reason it is recommended to always cook meats like venison completely), and humans simply don't have strong enough stomach acid. Because of that, dogs f.e. are able to still eat spoiled meat, or even birds of prey: They can feed on roadkills that have been laying outside in the sun for days without getting sick. Saying that humans cannot digest raw meat is imho false.
Hani Bark explain your canine teeth then
WE ARE
Dunc MAC then why chimps eat babies???
We are not omnivorous. U just think we are
san eee
Someone here doesn’t know how evolution works...
Here to Annoy you
Someone here doesn't know how human biology works...
You liked your own comment didn’t you
Adaption=Evolution
@@aswfegrhegdgdhfhfhgj Someone here is a hypocrite.
Humans are not, I emphasize; not, omnivorously evolved.
yes we are? I support veganism, but we most certainly are omnivores.
ill be a vegan because im and we are natural herbivores thats a fact and they won't be any side affects if we adapt to people becoming vegan. unemployment wont be an issue if we adapt more jobs will be created
Three words
Lectins.
Google it.
Okay where to start.
1. A lot of non arid land is not suitable for arable farming, I live in Wales, the majority of our land is unsuitable or marginal for commercial arable farming due to weather, the soil quality or fragility, access for machinery and restrictions due to other land users. The advantage of pastoral farming is that it can use land that cannot grow crops in a useful way.
2. If we are trying to reduce farming’s negative impact on the environment then things like leaving land fallow or growing crops that enrich the soil will become increasingly important. Grazing this land and/or feeding these often unappetising to human crops to animals makes doing these things commercially viable and benefits the land further.
3. Animal feed is often traditionally produced from waste products from other food production. Windfall fruit, byproducts of brewing or cheese making, sugar beet after processing, and much more.
4. Many cultures revolve around pastoral food production both nomadic and settled. Removing this element would destroy these cultures.
5. Plants are not permanent carbon sinks, that carbon will be cycled back into the atmosphere as they rot, unless you intend to sequester that material somehow. Growing crop plants without animal fertiliser would in fact require increased use of fossil fuel derived products or greatly reduced yields.
6. Commercial food production causes animal death. Animals are killed at every stage and your food contains animal products. Take for example flour, flour is allowed to contain a certain amount of bits of insect and rodent per volume, now that isn’t because they can’t be bothered not to it’s because a certain amount is inevitable.
There are problems with meat production mainly because of industrial factory farming. Reduce your meat intake, buy traditionally reared ethical meat, try mutton, it’s nice, it’s cheap and it’s almost impossible to be reared in a way that would cause you ethical concerns.
We have not ‘evolved as an Omnivore’, there is nothing about our anatomy that is like an Omnivore! We are Frugivores!
It’s my 3rd day being vegan, i like it so far
3rd day, woohoo what an achievement.
From what I've heard is that Scotland was once forested till all the trees were cut down and natural predators like wolfs were killed off. So the deer population. Became a lot higher reaulting in them eating the young tree saplings. So the forests never grew back.
We will be throwing bread crumbs at 25.9 billion chickens and 400 million pigeons in the park.
I would not be a vegan to save the planet, because rotation grazing (using cows & livestock to mimic large herds of grazing animals like wildebeest) and eliminating factory farming would be the best way to increase quality of meat, give the animals better lives, and make the whole process more sustainable. Then the portion of land used for monocultured “feed” could go back to wilderness. Feed is in quotations because the nutrient density from commercial agriculture is barely there, and killing the soil. And then we wonder why GMOs are a thing…
I used to be a meat eater. I really am trying to go completely vegan, eliminating my animal fat consumption. before, I had issues with energy and motivating myself to do ANYTHING... but now, I can do whatever I want within a minute because I have so much energy and I just want to start waking up to do stuff, I even started cleaning my house for no reason, it’s just so good! :)
it's not weird, it's actually just based on the person, I might feel better but some other person could feel shitty by going vegan. So if you're feeling good, keep living your life. You do you boo :D
You missed quite allot of environmental effects. "Cow belches" is just one part. There is Deforestation, ocean dead zones, water and grain consumption, deseartification, transportation involved for moving meat around. Take into account all of these and you get the world watch report of Animal Agro being responsible for 51% of GHG production.
Also if your grazing animals on arid land that has hardly any water, where does the water and food come from for the animals that are grazing there?
Vetostream wrongy
Joke’s on you, deforestation also happens for more fields to be cleared up for your all time favorite veggies to be grown, not just meat farms.
Google: vitamin B12
This isn’t taking into account factory farming. This sounds like family owned small farming, we’re mass producing cows, chickens, and pigs.
I love how she's talking about how healthy veganism is, and I had oreos, pringles and Burger King for lunch yesterday 🤦🏻♀️
I swear I'm hearing her say that "plants CAN'T supply all the vitamins and minerals that our bodies need" right after she said half a million people are vegan. I realize this is a 5 year old video at this point, so maybe credible information wasn't available when it was posted or maybe I'm mishearing her, but if 500,000 people are vegan already and aren't dead then they probably don't need anything that's missing from their diet. Speaking in 2023 though, it's very possible to have any life style you want without animal products.