Just some thoughts....I am a professional Stone Setter so I spend most of my time under the microscope setting stones...but I do have one of these and it works great. It is important to remember with any manipulation the metal must be, without exception, properly annealed. I do notice the extra play in the handle like yours has but I do not find this an issue when using the device. When the metal is properly annealed very very little force needs to be applied in order to properly bend the material. I have never made rings out of spoon handles or coins so maybe that world is different. Just some thoughts :)
The one I have looks like the second one you showed . Not sure on the brand but I find sometimes the ends are tricky to bend because it slides ,so what I have been doing is once it mostly all rounded I hold it tight in the bender with the straight end in front and shape it around with a rubber or nylon hammer then finish on the mandrel .. I've even done this on S Steel ..
I was gonna say the same thing, alot of the ring benders "all the same for the most part " is they are not to be used with spoons or anything over 2mm . These are for people making and beazing soft annealed metals
As this is still just a hobby, I couldn't spring for a Pepe or Flatwearable, and bought the best reviewed Amazon cheapie I could find. I had the same insufficient torque issue that you describe and it was more problematic for me because I am working with silverplate not sterling. As I anticipated, the handle broke within a few weeks (it's a common complaint). However, it ended up being a blessing in disguise. We drilled the hole out deeper and wider and added a new, wider and longer handle (we threaded the hole so it screwed in). Voilà! Now it's turbo-charged and I have more torque than the rest of the bender can handle. So, if you can't shell out $300-400 for good equipment, you can play Dr. Frankenstein to limp along.
I use a PePe tools bender, I find if you bend the ends first then bend the center last and it will close up nicely, for heavier spoons and thicker metals I use a Flatwearable Artisan bending kit that attaches to a 1 ton arbor press
Another trick is to use 1 size larger outer piece. The same size inner and outer leaves no gap/relief space (size of material being bent) I know - I have one so do this to minimize/eliminate marks on metals when bending
So I purchased this one for $30 the user had same issue. So I did some modifications and it works perfectly fine now. I lined all the ring press Adapters with leather and that kept it from marking my rings. I also threaded a piece of all thread as the handle made it longer and taped it for comfort. I the cut a couple wedges to slip between where the handle meets the press and gives me less movement before it actually starts to press. Hope that makes sense.
omg I wish I would have seen this video before I orderd and received one exactly like it. I'm not a seasoned ring maker like you but I had some people that are come check it out and they say the same thing, worthless. Thanks for the video.
You should have secured the bender to a table or vise. If it ain’t secured, u can’t get the tool to work properly. Also you realize that pepetools is 3-4 times the cost of most economy benders. Let’s compare apples to apples sir. Good luck. I use a similar economy version and once secured it, it works like a charm.
I wish they would send me something new because it's not really been denying asleep in Mark's you're exactly one hundred percent right but you can't get your money back and lets it cost you more to send it back so they get you ever way they can and if you do send it back it cost you more money than what it's worth
Could this bender be substituted with a ring bending pliers? I just started doing research today, and the price points between pliers and these benders are quite substantial. If I can save some money that would be great
Hello, how are you? I have a pair of ring bending pliers and in my opinion their not strong enough for all metals. If I could offer a suggestion, I would purchase a Pepe tools ring bending kit because it is very sturdy. I understand you not wanting to invest in that tool right away so the pliers may be a good buy to start off in thinner gauge metal. I hope this helps, thank you for watching and commenting. Please let me know what you decide…take care.
@@JTCoinRings thank you for the prompt reply! I am tempted to buy the full kit, but if I can get the pliers to bend the spoons with relative force, that option should suffice.
Just some thoughts....I am a professional Stone Setter so I spend most of my time under the microscope setting stones...but I do have one of these and it works great. It is important to remember with any manipulation the metal must be, without exception, properly annealed. I do notice the extra play in the handle like yours has but I do not find this an issue when using the device. When the metal is properly annealed very very little force needs to be applied in order to properly bend the material. I have never made rings out of spoon handles or coins so maybe that world is different. Just some thoughts :)
Thank you so much for your advice.
The one I have looks like the second one you showed . Not sure on the brand but I find sometimes the ends are tricky to bend because it slides ,so what I have been doing is once it mostly all rounded I hold it tight in the bender with the straight end in front and shape it around with a rubber or nylon hammer then finish on the mandrel .. I've even done this on S Steel ..
I was gonna say the same thing, alot of the ring benders "all the same for the most part " is they are not to be used with spoons or anything over 2mm . These are for people making and beazing soft annealed metals
As this is still just a hobby, I couldn't spring for a Pepe or Flatwearable, and bought the best reviewed Amazon cheapie I could find. I had the same insufficient torque issue that you describe and it was more problematic for me because I am working with silverplate not sterling.
As I anticipated, the handle broke within a few weeks (it's a common complaint). However, it ended up being a blessing in disguise. We drilled the hole out deeper and wider and added a new, wider and longer handle (we threaded the hole so it screwed in). Voilà! Now it's turbo-charged and I have more torque than the rest of the bender can handle.
So, if you can't shell out $300-400 for good equipment, you can play Dr. Frankenstein to limp along.
Thank you for this comment! It will definitely help someone to fix the problem with this tool.
I use a PePe tools bender, I find if you bend the ends first then bend the center last and it will close up nicely, for heavier spoons and thicker metals I use a Flatwearable Artisan
bending kit that attaches to a 1 ton arbor press
Thanks for this comment, I do have an attachment for bending spoon & forks for my 1 ton press. I want to use the Pepe Tools bender next.
Another trick is to use 1 size larger outer piece.
The same size inner and outer leaves no gap/relief space (size of material being bent)
I know - I have one so do this to minimize/eliminate marks on metals when bending
Thank you for that tip
So I purchased this one for $30 the user had same issue. So I did some modifications and it works perfectly fine now. I lined all the ring press Adapters with leather and that kept it from marking my rings. I also threaded a piece of all thread as the handle made it longer and taped it for comfort. I the cut a couple wedges to slip between where the handle meets the press and gives me less movement before it actually starts to press. Hope that makes sense.
Thank you so much for this advice, I appreciate it.
That handle was dancing the wobble blue that you mention it 🕺🏽 😲
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This is so interesting. You learn something new if you look for it.Yeh, does t look secure at…beautiful ring
Hello 👋🏿, I want to thank you for watching & commenting on the video.
omg I wish I would have seen this video before I orderd and received one exactly like it. I'm not a seasoned ring maker like you but I had some people that are come check it out and they say the same thing, worthless. Thanks for the video.
I’m so sorry you had to experience this. I wished I would have saved for a better brand.
Mounting it to workbench will help A Lot!
I agree, I will mount it to my new workbench once it arrives. Keep this tool for my thinner gauge metals.
You should have secured the bender to a table or vise. If it ain’t secured, u can’t get the tool to work properly. Also you realize that pepetools is 3-4 times the cost of most economy benders. Let’s compare apples to apples sir. Good luck. I use a similar economy version and once secured it, it works like a charm.
I will show a video of it secured, I did it some time ago. Thanks for the comment, I appreciate the feedback.
Try bending each end of your rings first and the do center ,on yours you was bending from one end to the other
Ok, I will try that. I appreciate your advice.
thanks for your info,so glad i did some looking around before i bought a cheap one,looking forward to getting my tool
Your welcome 🤗
interesting TOOL JT. Pepe makes great tools! THANK YOU FOR SHARING Sir.
I should have purchased the Pepe Tools ring stretcher from the beginning… 🤣
Very informative. I new to the craft and excited to learn from your videos
Awesome!
In order not to leave marks just glue a piece of leather on the metal! Good luck.
Thanks for the tip
@@JTCoinRings You welcome
I agree that the Pepe looks like a much nicer unit
Secretly, I wanted an excuse to purchase a new tool🤣 …thank you for watching & commenting on the video.
I got a ring bender and it’s working pretty good. I just don’t like that the nylon dies are getting out of shape.
How have you been? Thanks for stopping by the channel 😀
Can you order replacements ???
You meant to bend the ends first and then the middle last. More uniform and easier to achieve that nice curve. 👍
Thank you for that tip
@@JTCoinRings you got this! 😃
50 percent of your issues is that your tool isn’t anchored. Good luck 👍
Thank you, I’m going to place it on another work bench so it can be secure. I appreciate the comment.
Also, unless noted, most ring benders are for 1mm max thickness. If you want to bend spoons, you would need a heavy duty bender.@@JTCoinRings
Yeah I put mine in the vice
I have a durston. Works well
Hey, Luke! That is definitely a quality tool you have there. I appreciate you stopping by to watch & comment on the video.
Interesting. Thanks for the information and advice.
Your welcome, thank you for watching!
I wish they would send me something new because it's not really been denying asleep in Mark's you're exactly one hundred percent right but you can't get your money back and lets it cost you more to send it back so they get you ever way they can and if you do send it back it cost you more money than what it's worth
So true, it really was a waste of money.
I have heard that pepe tools is the way to go if you are serious about making rings..
I agree
JT Brother would it help to anneal the spoon handle? Soften it a bit?
Hey buddy, it was annealed.
Appreciate your review.
Thank you watching, I appreciate you 😊
Thanks for keeping it real
Thank you for stopping by to watch & comment on this video. I appreciate it.
Thanks for sharing 😎
I appreciate you watching
Thank you.. Peace✌️
Thank you for watching ….
Mine didn't work too good either
I’m so sorry to hear this. I have definitely have heard mix reviews on this product.
Could this bender be substituted with a ring bending pliers? I just started doing research today, and the price points between pliers and these benders are quite substantial. If I can save some money that would be great
Hello, how are you? I have a pair of ring bending pliers and in my opinion their not strong enough for all metals. If I could offer a suggestion, I would purchase a Pepe tools ring bending kit because it is very sturdy. I understand you not wanting to invest in that tool right away so the pliers may be a good buy to start off in thinner gauge metal. I hope this helps, thank you for watching and commenting. Please let me know what you decide…take care.
@@JTCoinRings thank you for the prompt reply! I am tempted to buy the full kit, but if I can get the pliers to bend the spoons with relative force, that option should suffice.
@@JTCoinRings if the material is normal silverware and not stainless steel, could the pliers be a viable option?
Thanks!!!!🐼✌🏿
Your welcome, thanks for watching.
Tell me is the base is metal or not
The base is metal…
Visto che hai fatto tanta beneficenza perchè guadagni milioni posso lasciarti un mio iban ?
I'm leaning towards Pepe's
I think it is a great choice, it’s made with quality parts. I’m looking to purchase it as well.
looks like you're not using this big guy muscles pull it ffs lol
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