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At one time you could stand in Tomorrowland and see everything moving. Autopia cars, submarines, skyway, monorail, rocket jets, peoplemovers, and a carousal of progress.
I don't think fixing Tomorrowland would be that bad. I think a lot could be done by remodeling the buildings and rides that are already there. It would be better than doing nothing.
Tragically,that’s by design.
I hope Disney execs are watching and listening to you.
Tomorrowland is like that meme of the guy running with a skateboard. He just keep running and never puts it under his feet.
I’m always amazed at the number of attractions there used to be in the lands and now they spend billions and open a new land with one attraction and another one to come. As kids, we went from inner space to space mountain to Captain Eo, arcades, carousel of progress, people mover, mission to mars, autopia, circle vision, submarines and the terrifying but fun rocket Jets. Enjoyed the music at Tomorrowland terrace. Look at all the rides in fantasyland. Not every ride needs to be a rise of the resistance.
Good point. I was sad when they added the new Star Wars land. It's so well done, but after my first exploration, I just kind of wander through it now on my way to other places, or maybe to look at merch. There doesn't actually seem to be much there (for me, at least).
You, my friend, have some of the best disney coverage on YT. The reverance for what was, the hope for what could be and the hard reality of the decline of what is disneycorp today. Keep it up!
Hey Brickey! I love the video, & I too am nostalgic for the Tomorrowland I grew up with in the 70's, 80's, & 90's. Since part of the Carousel building houses the storage track for the Peoplemover, I think a good use for it is a dual purpose. Since Disney doesn't like to spend much money these days, just make the bottom floor a Tron End of Line Club. The top floor could eventually be the new Peoplemover Station. They could turn the old Magic Eye Theatre into the DVC Club. As far as Fantasyland, turn the old Fantasyland Autopia side into Frozen land, while keeping the Lagoon. In my opinion turn the Starcade into the Space Mountain queue, on both levels & reinstall a speed ramp to the second level. Return Pizza Planet back to a attraction, & bring back my favorite quick service restaurant "The Space Place". And finally the old Peoplemover Station, take out the tracks in the middle of the lands entrance. Just connect the tracks from the Buzz Building to Star Tours. Put the Rocket Jets back on top of the building, but use the old Peoplemover station as queue space for the Rocket Jets. Just curious to what you think of this idea?
Hello from Phoenix Arizona ❗🔥
The end of your paragraph sounds what disny could do since Walt also said Disneyland will never be complete
I love the deep dive. Your talent in story telling is in full effect with this amazing piece of content. Thank You.
bias much :)
@@Banjo_Tails Thanks for the reply. It helps promote the content.
@@J_Pike If i don't comment on some videos i am at least thumbs up them.
@@Banjo_Tails another reply even more support. You are the best. Thanks brother from down under.
I made the mistake of taking the bait at the beginning. New Tomorrowland plus a possible new PeopleMover with budget is a perfect plan.
Actually, the America Sings attraction loaded on the top floor alongside the Tron Speed tunnel. Before the Speed Tunnel was incorporated over that part of the PeopleMover route, just as seen in WDW we passed the same model of Progress City that's now at Florida at Magic Kingdom. The Carousel building's ground floor was used for storage, as many of the animatronics used in America Sings were on swivel stages and elevator lifts that rose up from the lower level pit throughout the presentation. Even before America Sings, during it's Carousel of Progress days and on into its Innovention years (Pre- Star Wars Launch Bay which moved the entrance to the ground floor), the second floor was always the way to enter the attractions that were hosted in that building. My favorite part of entering that building was walking up to the top of the ramp and having to wait for the entrance doors to revolve back to the start position, because the auditorium and outer walls of the structure were on a track that rolled on cue around the stage which sat stationary with its own automated moving elements.
Amazing video. It’s crazy how many of us (me included) usually only sees so far ahead, and in doing so, we “settle” for the middlings that Disney throws our way.
Disney NEEDS people like you in their arsenal. I would love to see someone with your background and vision contributing to those decisions at the House of Mouse.
I don't think that the problem is a lack of vision or imagination, I'm sure that they have plenty of that. What's lacking is money, or more to say, the willingness to spend the kind of money that it would take to make someone's vision come true. You have to remember that Disney isn't a private company owned and run by the Disney family and hasdn't been for decades. They're a publicly traded company and that means that the CEO isn't the ultimate boss, the board of directors are and what they care about is the price of the company's stock. And if the CEO, be it Eiger or someone new, isn't going to be CEO for long if they start spending money like crazy and cause the stocks to stuffer a massive drop in price.
It's also worth noting that a drop in the price of Disney stocks wouldn't just affect these big wigs. It affects anybody who owns shares of Disney stocks, some of whom own them as part of their retirement nest egg. And even if you don't own any shares of Disney directly, if you have any form of mutual fund, or a 401K, you just might be a shareholder and not realize it.
@@Riceball01Disney spent 4 billion on just the star wars IPO, they are making it back hand over fist but they don't lack money, they lack people with vision that know how to spend that money. Hopefully the 3rd park in Anaheim will allow that vision to come to light and see that they can improve something like tomorrow land and make it even better.
as much as I love the current Tomorrow Land, I would love to see a re-theme every 25 years or so to keep things up with the current technology, can you image how it could look with LED's and video boards, make it look like the future we were all promised.
"Trust me, they'll also love whatever comes next." Great quote and it resonates with me for sure. Tomorrowland needs to change. I go there to ride Space Mountain but unlike any other land, I rarely go there just to hang out. Sitting on a bench in Tomorrowland feels like a sentence.😂
Brickey, the story telling and video editing only gets better and better. I always appreciate the research and thinking behind these videos.
Excellent ideas! I seem to be in the minority, but I love Star Tours v2. I like that new scenes can be added, keeping it the same but different. I would like to see Disney move it into Batuu, somewhere. That would allow Disney to add their latest Star Wars IP to at least this ride as the years move on, without too much investment. That would free up space in Tomorrowland, without sacrificing a ride. That would make way for your extended Main Street idea. It is definitely time for a huge makeover of Fantasyland and Tomorrowland. I thing that would help to bring in Tourists, locals would also have a renewed interest and they be more willing to part with their hard earned $. We can only hope that Disney will move forward and not just slap on a new coat of paint.
An exceptional video … I remember the 1970 Tomorrowland… the Kinetic Energy was spectacular.
At the end of the video, I got emotional, this storytelling would make Walt proud.
Hey Brickey, love your channel, keep up the good work. I have to say you really shined in this video. I enjoyed this video so much. Your passion for Disneyland shines in this video. I agree a people mover for the sake of a people mover is a lame band aide. Your shrinking of Tomorrow Land and expanding its neighbors is intriguing. Im sure if they let their top Imagineers loose on it with a big budget it would be Amazing. A roller coaster that is a sled from Arendel or riding the waves with Moana . Maybe a themed restaurant inside a castle like Jasmine’s or Aerial’s would be a huge hit. I even think they could keep an Autopia if part of the track went under the Fantasy Land expansion and it was like you were driving in the lower level of a future city in electric cars. With a smaller or no Autopia Tomorrow Land isn’t really losing much space. If they layered and themed the new Tomorrow Land it could become a park attraction. Instead of something you walk through to get to Space Mountain. I have to say I like Star Tours. I would prefer it gets moved instead or removed. Let’s hope the Disney executives have a vision for a brighter Tomorrow ( Land ). Thanks for all your videos.
I bet a really creative organization could turn the lower floor of the launch bay into an interesting dark ride without changing the exterior.
Love the effort on the maps overlays and transitions. Very cool touch.
I was slightly offended at the title but thankfully I ignored myself 🤣& still gave your “take” on things a chance. You have great points and ideas! Thanks!
Brickey you are so amazing at breaking down the design History of Disneyland. So much detailed info and realistic history. So many fun things I miss from my childhood. Loved inner space and America sings. Amazing!!
I love how much history and knowledge you put into your videos! If only everyone knew how great your videos are. You should have a million subscribers!!!
I feel the same way!!
I’m confused. What’s your stance on the most iconic Tomorrowland attraction, the churro cart?
Tomorrowland Terrace is pretty great. It’s nice to have a place to dance.
I was mad at this, but then you got me with the Walt Disney themed dark ride. I think there are parts of tomorrowland that need to be preserved and maybe naming it yestrdays tomorrowland might be cool becasue I LOVE the retro parts of it- BUT i have to say I LOVE your idea with the expansion on Fantasyland and Mainstreet. I think youre on to something! Great video!!! AND i'm loving your aerial view jumps from location to location! Keep up the excellent work!
I absolutely love these videos with historical footage. Great coverage and thoughts on Tomorrowland.
Your creativity and respect of Walt's vision make these videos great and would make you a great imagineer. Hopefully Disney execs can see the promise of a overhaul rather than bandaid attractions like before that disappoint and disappear.
I thoroughly enjoyed this video Brickey. Your storytelling and conceptualization of a better Tomorrowland is exceptional. Thank you for taking the time to make such quality videos ❤️
If the insist on having a DVC members lounge. They should have it in the abandoned Captain EO theatre.
Perspective appreciated for sure…. I do miss the people mover, yet am open to the possibility if imagineers get to truly go full throttle into imagination of creation for the tomorrow.
So great to see you, my friend. Lisa is teaching in Latvia for 10 months I will make sure to tell her that you two said Hi!
@@J_Pike likewise...thank you for passing on the love...I hope to hear the stories when she returns and you are doing amazing...we look forward to seeing you again in the near future.
You won me over on your viewpoint bud. I go into the parks a lot and I realize that I rarely step into Tomorrowland now.
Realistically Disney isn’t going to pay up to totally redo Tomorrowland to how we all want it. Retro Tomorrowland from Walt’s Space Age era seems more logical. That’s where they were headed with the new TL entrance. Plays off the nostalgia of old school TL, it’s way cheaper, and solves the problem of having to constantly update TL. I do like your idea of splitting up the land with new Fantasyland & Main Street extension. Maybe could finally get Liberty Street + Edison Square like Walt wanted!
Brickey. This one goes deep with me. I grew up going to the Classic Tomorrowland. Inner Space. Peoplemover. RocketJets 🚀 on top of the platform. (they were terrifying at that height. a teenager’s dream). I agree with much of your assessment but not all. No one mentions this fact: Disney did away with attractions that let guests throw things onto other guests. (There was a day where people were cordial enough that this didn’t happen.) If the Peoplemover comes back, each car will be sealed like a gondola. I agree that the Launch Bay building is a waste of space and function. However, with the announcement of the lounge, Disney management has now committed to a “No transformation” strategy. The Peoplemover is not the problem, management’s small thinking, and cost cutting, is. I love the Peoplemover and I’d love to see it come back. But you don’t need Launch Bay to do it. I do think that Autopia should become Arendelle and thus Fantasyland. I agree on that point. Buzz Lightyear isn’t going away, nor Space Mountain. I think everything else is up for grabs. So I’m for a “part nostalgia” and “part Fantasyland” and “part reboot” strategy.
Keep in mind that the Launch Bay building also houses the Peoplemover storage track.
@@millcity9711 I did not know this. Great point. It does look like they are going down the road of a return to the "classic tomorrowland" with the refurbishment of the entrance, the white "spires" of the tomorrowland stage, etc. Do you think Autopia will stay?
I love star tours it may be a stretch to get it moved to galaxys edge but I would also be willing to greet a new ride with open hands
I know Star Tours doesn't make a lot of sense anymore with Galaxy's Edge but I love it so much!
My wife has said many times she'd ride Star Tours all day but was One and Done on the Falcon. If I had to guess: equal parts nostalgia and the lack of pressure to be 'part of a successful team'
Star tours is fine. It's different.
Nah, the sub lagoon with monorail passing over must be preserved. It's too iconic. But I disagree that saving the subs means keeping autopia. I think something else could be built on top of the sub show bldg even though it would take a little extra engineering effort.
I’m new to your channel and have become a big fan in a short time. While I’d LOVE an almost total teardown of Tomorrowland, I just don’t see them springing for it. I honestly feel the land’s problems are largely aesthetic. The lack of cohesion is appalling. Galactic Grill looks like it’s in a 70s outlet mall. New facades/interior refreshes for the buildings would go a great way in fixing the land. But Innoventions should go entirely, and the Magic Eye theater should too.
Thank you for saying "they'll love whatever comes next". It's what I try to tell people when they want to get out their pitchforks when Soundsational ended or just bringing up ending Mickey & the Magical Map (before the shutdown). You won't get something new if they keep running the old. Magic Happens was way better than Soundsational. Unfortunately covid halted that, hopefully not permanently. Although nothing has been announced to replace Magic Map yet, it ran for like 7 years. It should have been replaced long before the park closure anyway. The great thing about RUclips...there are tons of videos of them that the kids can still watch it whenever they want.
I would love a hard reboot of Tomorrowland and ave been begging for one for years 😭 but I don’t think disney will do it for a long time so if they want to make a small update like people mover I am excited ! Especially since this attraction is more for magic keys.
I agree with you that just re adding the people mover is very sort sighted, where I disagree a little is expanding Main Street USA a little bit up to the Matterhorn, I think in a new Tomorrowland we can have that cool new fireworks viewing area if they teared down the faerie meet and greet area and make a tomorrow land building to view it from there, but seriously great video and love your thoughts and viewpoints on this as well
Oh don’t you know,they are going to announce removal of Pixie Hollow and bringing back House of the Future 🤣🤣
shoot they could move Pixie Hollow to the new expanded Fantasyland
Awesome perspective Brickey. Your idea of a Mainstreet dark ride is such a novel idea and I have never heard anything like it. Definitely an awesome concept that will never age as the current Tomorrowland has.
My man says he’s being “realistic” yet is suggesting a full tear down of tommorrowland 😅😂. I LOVE your stuff brickey, but “my idea is great and would improve Disneyland” can be both correct and wildly unrealistic given the current administration at the same time. Saying “this is how they should change Tomorrowland” and then listing stuff that won’t happen in the next decade is less than realistic, in my view. Even if it is a great idea (which it is).
From what I have heard about the return of the People Mover it will be outside the park to move guests from the new eastern parking structures to the park entrance, if and when they build them.
As I recall, after RocketRods died they said they couldn't bring the people move back because it wouldn't be up to code. And it couldn't be grandfathered because it had been replaced.
What a great episode. Tomorrowland redo is like a not-yet-opened Christmas present: could be great, could be a dud. But the anticipation is wonderful
I have decided, I need a team up/collab video with you and Adam the Woo. Great video, and I couldn’t agree more with your take on tomorrowland.
It's happened before!
ruclips.net/video/0vnNyzVL5nY/видео.html
One of my favorite videos yet. I could honestly imagine a Disneyland dark ride! You keep out doing yourself! #Club1313
I'm of the mindset that Tomorrowland's layout is almost alright, that is, if Disney Co. actually populated all of their real estate. Buildings are VERY expensive so tearing them down and spending upwards of a billion dollars for new ones is simply not going to happen. Disney will not be hiring Grimshaw Architects, as they did in Shanghai, for all new buildings. These buildings all need extreme facade -ectomies NOT like the kind in the 90s but ones that take some of them down to their respective steel and concrete structures. They can then all be made more coherent. Had Disney not updated Orlando's Tormorrowland its Logans Run aesthetic would still look futuristic. That's why they are slowly trying to put it back. Disneyland is not that dissimilar. Despite what people say, the aesthetics of the Tomorrowlands never became the present.
“facade-ectomies” is brilliant 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
“…not unfavorable ones.” 🤣🤣
I totally agree with you, Brickey! I don't want the PeopleMover to come back on a shorter track, and I don't think an exclusive lounge at Disneyland for DVC members is necessary when they're getting an entire wing at the Disneyland Hotel. Build a unique penthouse lounge at the Disneyland Hotel and use Disneyland Space for the majority of Disneyland Guests.
I'm catching this video 10 months after it premiered, but still appreciate all the thought and detail that went into it...Thank you! I hope something visionary is done to help this area, long-term.
There is virtually nothing in Tomorrow Land that is of interest to me, except the people mover. It was like the Disneyland Train, slow moving, relaxing, with lots to see. It was also one place you could go to rest your feet from walking and standing, yet do it in a way that was enjoyable.
Yup, the People MOver was always one of my favorite rides as a kid and teenager going to the park. When they added Tron, it made it even better. I think they forget the Disneyland needs those long, slow moving rides so people can take a break, off their feet while still 'doing something'. But also... I admit, it was the perfect ride as teenagers who wanted 'to be alone' and make-out a little. Not that I would ever have done such a thing, of course. ;)
A nice way to end my very busy day. Great video as usual.
Like and heart those comments!
I wonder if a ride like Journey to the Center of the Earth at Tokyo Disney Sea would fit in that space. I think the theme would work along with the water elements of the lagoon.
Appreciate your insight and design sensibility.
As a kid in the 70’s, I remember loving Tomorrowland. Now I avoid it unless I really want to go on Space Mountain- (which I would go to more often if it weren’t in a desolate corner of the park). My opinion, and maybe not the most popular.
To be honest, the Submarine ride is one of the most solid and well put together rides in there. It's also very unique. It's works for young kids and adults that dont want alot of motion and jerking around. I think removing unused structures and adding another E ticket attraction would be plenty of an improvement, and removing the subs would not be necessary.
I was with you until you started talking about star tours 😂🤷🏼♀️ that's a precious gem that needs to stay.
Well done 👏👏👏👏
Absolutely amazing!!!Well done. Wish Disney would hire you to redo Tomorrow Land.
I used to love the innerspace ride. When they showed the little minature cars that they showed I thought for sure was real people being shrunk down.
I think the photos of the many guests dressed up shows how many people did this for church and special occasions. Yes, it does give the appearance of upper middle class from the way the majority of people dress today. Back in the mid 50’s we weren’ heavily in debt with credit cards. If people couldn’t afford to visit , then just waited until they had saved for the trip or realized it wasn’t something they could afford . In today’s society there is the forever handy credit card to charge such a trip. This is how many people have gotten in trouble by not making wise choices . I count myself in with this group. My debt isn’t about vacations , using the credit card too often , it’s about charging when I should have paid in cash . I hope my grandchildren can be wise and pay in cash as much as they can .
Tomorrowland is the most underrated land. Everyone’s usually only there for space Mountain.
Well presented. I hope Disney sees this.
6:08 As someone who just redid his ceiling and found a beautiful vintage metal ceiling that was heavily damaged by the previous owner and covered up with cheap ceiling tiles, this metaphor hit extremely hard lmao. You want to save it, but it's impossible.
This is what you get when you have a board of directors and investors running the show and not the man himself Walt Disney. He was concerned with families having a good time and they are concerned with the almighty dollar
Amazing video. I agree with you that they should invest time and money into Tomorrowland and not let it just fall apart
In a previous video you mentioned that Space Mountain might be moved and updated. I think that would work great, replace the Carousel of Progress building with the new Space Mtn. They have already said that the Autopia is going electric. You can now place a portion of that ride under portions of the new Space Mtn building. Make the Autopia drive through cities and countryside, or even a "city of tomorrow" You'll gain more space by partly stacking the rides. You could even run the Autopia through a plexiglass tube and through the lagoon.
I enjoyed the video, but I just wanted to say there are a few wrong facts about the originality of the structures in Tomorrowland. Most of the buildings that you said were built in the 1967 Tomorrowland redesign were there since 1955, they've just been modified over the years. I also find it ironic how you focus on how Modern Disney should do things that are not Cheap and Easy while proposing to build a clone of the Beauty and the Beast ride from Tokyo. Disney has started cloning rides like Ratatouille and Tron from their international parks because it's Cheaper and Easier compared to designing a new ride/theme from the ground up.
Personally, I hope Disney goes back to its old ways and creates new experiences with old ride systems like how they "Cloned" Tokyo's Indiana Jones Temple of the Crystal Skull from California's Temple of the Forbidden eye. Anyways keep up the good work.
This video needs to be played at a high level imagineers meeting with Chapek in attendance!!!
The direction and editing of this video are excellent. // I still miss Circle-Vision. It was amazing!
remember being nauseated being in that attraction
@@2infinitynbeyond I’m sorry. 😢//I loved the traveling aspect, and the visuals.
The rockets are they most terrifying ride in history, I always felt like I was going to die LOL
3:25 Circarama did not open in 1960. The original Circarama show would open a few days after the park opening in 1955. It was replaced in 1960 with America the Beautiful in 1960. Also, several walk through exhibits occupied this building from 1955 to 1966.
Tomorrowland was my favorite as a child in the 60’s just so sad they have just forgotten it. I agree let’s make it new and update it it’s 2022🤷♀️.
Incredible if this actually happens! As a regular guest (passholder) having to look in on the elite guests is a joke. Walt Disney would absolutely be livid. This would be similar to Pirates of the Caribbean looking in on the Blue Bayou Restaurant. The difference is all guests are welcome that can afford the restaurant. Here's hoping that Disneyland does the right thing☘️😃. D23 2022 just might be our first Glimpse at the future of Tomorrowland.
“All guests are welcome who can afford it…” …..so not all guests then? Got it.
I have to agree. Tomorrowland has to be restructured. The building structure from the entrance to the Carousel is attractions that can be moved or rebuilt later. So many of these structures are empty or using hold gap measures. It is time to reconstruct.
You know, the Astro Orbiter in the front of tomorrowland was a Tony Baxter decision. He headed the Tomorrowland redo back in the day.
WOW!, nice concepts. I so wanted the people mover back, but now I dont. This make so much sense, I'm going to miss Buzz Lightyear but im sure I'll enjoy what replaces it. Thanks for the video.
I Lovvve your plan of Mickey Mouse park (but also include Disneylandia was to have coin op AA figures in miniature & travel city to city) I personally thought of a "surf coaster" family style attraction to replace Autopia that looked like flying cars that would be indoor/out door with visions of a future cityscape. There could still be a late 50's 60's reto future look rather than steam punk. With the new promise of space exploration + the return to the moon & mars could spark "Horizons 2" Just a thought.
Autopia's theme is the "highways of tomorrow." So, simply make it that. The video screen shows cars of tomorrow going fast along highways in bubble cars. If you take down the current Autopia track and the people mover track, you could make a new E-ticket ride that takes you through the highways of tomorrow at fast speeds. You could have a voice "offer you amenities" while the overlapping track could bring back the energy you spoke of. This would actually allow Disney to keep the Launch Bay building, and make that the queue/launch for this new ride. Tearing down all of what's currently Autopia, including the station and queue, would leave so much space. I think Star Tours and Smuggler's run are very different attractions and honestly would be okay with them moving Star Tours over to Galaxies Edge. If you take out the 3d theater, that leaves the whole building for a new ride, either a dark ride like Adventures through Inner Space or another E ticket. I'd like a retheme of Space Mountain to match the new futuristic one they're doing over in Asia, and they could make a much better themed and interactive queue. I also like the idea of Astro Orbiter going back to the original spot and a decorative piece being put where it currently is.
Alas, this brings me to my last point. I would love to see any sort of ride vehicles to be used on the current people move track when you enter Tomorrow Land and throughout like it used to. I was born after the people mover and was too young to remember rocket rods. I just don't know what they could put there.
I love your idea of making an OG mini train ride about Walt's back yard train that takes us to the OG Disneyland, and maybe that's what could go in the Star Tours-3d building I was saying could be empty.
I really disagree with making Fantasy Land bigger, as your proposition would make it over 1/4th the park's total size. There are 8 lands and for 1 to be that big would be crazy imo. Maybe if they made a Fantasy Land E-ticket like 7 dwarfs then maybe.
GOOD NEWS THOUGH! If they do make the Disneyland Forever and make the hotel area into an expansion, it would be so easy to make a people mover that goes from the Disneyland side to the Forever side. They may even be able to make the current station of use so that it goes around Tomorrowland, crosses the Esplanade like the monorail, then crosses over into the Forever side. If you make it a 2 station ride, like the monorail, it would only take about 7 minutes per side if you keep it at 7mph. There is hope for the station!
I was pretty stuck on the notion of saving all things vintage Disneyland, but I can’t help but agree with everything you’ve said. If fact, we visit Disneyland once a year, and seldom, if at all ever go into Tomorrowland. It’s busted. A Villains portion of Fantasyland would be badass imo 🖤
I appreciate the effort put into this video
Your ideal expansion of the Main Street U.S.A. area diminishes the original intent of the hub area, which has symmetrical paths leading to each land.
I've only heard your thesis statement so far and already have to comment, no, getting the peoplemover back would not mean staying dedicated to the incongruos mismatch of attractions. Just about every attraction in Tomorrowland that the peoplemover passes through has been remodelled, updated or replaced at some point in the past, there is no reason they couldnt be replaced again and still maintain the peoplemover passing through them.
nicely done! I hope the Disney Co takes this to heart.
In order to have any meaningful change you need to have leadership that loves the park more than money (like Walt); leadership with creative vision (like Walt) and leadership that actually cares (like Walt). All of these appear to be lacking with the current leadership.
This has to get to Dallin asap, for his own good :(
Hands down the Autopia cars NEED to be electric. The gas fumes are toxic for cast members and guests! My son got sick waiting to exit and had to leave the park once with a headache and vomiting.
They need to have the people mover from the parking lots to the front gates. That would be effective and useful in Southern California location. Get rid of the fuel guzzling transportation system they use to transport guests from the parking structure to the front of the parks.
Very smart & thoughtful look at Tomorrow Land. I totally agree with your take. If only Disney was of this mindset too.
Brickey is crushing the content creation. I don’t necessarily agree with your fixes but the spirit is right. Time to do Tomorrowland right. No more band aids. #Club1313
Crushing is right. #Club1313
You blew my mind again, great analysis !!
Kid who's gone to Disneyland since 2006, I'm extremely nostalgic for the astro orbiter, mainly because of the way it looks at night time in the park. It drastically affected the atmosphere of tomorrow land for me in a good way.
While I appreciate the views you described I do feel the need to point out that while the images shared of what future Tomorrowland should look like, it’s just not fiscally responsible. The problem with modern buildings is that eventually they aren’t modern. Trends change on average every 15 years. Originally tomorrow land was the future but it’s since long gone. Vintage is the way to go, trying to keep it updated would forever be a giant waste of resources. The nostalgia is exhausting, our memories serve us better than the memories really are. The comments about Disney only serving the top tier is literally the laziest argument. Disney has always been for the top tiers. Old footage shows people in their Sunday best. Disney has no problem with attendance, it’s obviously plenty affordable. Walt Disney himself once said when faced between bathrooms or drinking fountains in the budget said “people can’t piss in the street, but they can buy coke” he established the elite club 33. Where is this nonsense that he was for the poor? Where is the outrage for club 33? Disney is a Luxury just the same as a beach front vacation is to some. Let’s stop with the nonsense that he would be rolling in his grave.
I do agree with your expansion of fantasyland and I appreciate the content but I just wanted to provide my unsolicited prospective.
I disagree. As I noted, the Magic Kingdom's Tomorrowland aesthetic never became the present, which is why they are now trying -- not terribly hard and with great success -- to put it back.
Good points. Disneyland does seem was made for more upper middle class families
Totally agree with your ‘do not touch’ list. The rest can go... I’d like to see a few rebuilt (people mover, autopia with electric cars and submarines with something faster loading - but that last one only to preserve the water view from the monorail station to the Matterhorn). I like Star tours too, but it makes no sense to have anything Star Wars related with the new Galaxy Edge. Move Star Tours - or visit it in FL.
At Disneyland in Anaheim, CA, part of Tomorrowland, when refurbished, we are not bringing back the New PeopleMover. Instead of it, it would be the Heathrow Pod Tour, but it is similarly to the PeopleMover.
well said, thank you Brickey for the alternative perspective.
May that Walt Disney/Disneyland ride happen!
Astro Blasters is my second favorite ride in the park. It cant go there are lots of us that have worked hard to learn how to get those 1million point + scores and its become iconic for us.
The easiest solution is to rename it. The least expensive, the most architecture preservation the most innovation. If yesterday was not cool then why did they make a Main Street? Why are they redesigning the entirety of Downtown Disney to 1950's? The formative structural integrity is irreplaceable, like a wood floor when you put up a shag rug. Bring back the people mover, for the reasons it was created, moving people.
Your analysis and visuals are so excellent!! Thank you
This was really well done man!!!