@@garrettjackson1451 humanity got rid of money all together, for people to do what they wanna do, to chase their dreams, everything is supplied by the government. What you do as a individual could benefit the federation. There's still currency, but it's not needed for basic needs, such as food, water, housing, schooling, do what you wanna do.
@@KyaliFloofDerg out of all the fictional universes I wanna live in Star Trek is one of them since humanity reached its full potential. I either work on a starship or just live the life of a average federation citizen on Earth 🌎 23rd or 24th century will do just fine I wonder what Texas would look like in Star Trek
@@garrettjackson1451 humanity nuked itself over “different ideological ideas of freedom” But in the end something stronger emerged. Hopefully humanity won’t nuke itself and maybe become starfleet. Who knows?
@@KyaliFloofDerg Never heard of any currency in use by the Federation or it's citizens ever. The Federation does possess currency used by other worlds such as latinum when they want to make a deal, but don't use currency amongst themselves
The lighting is absolutely sick. Also, put yourself in their shoes. How terrifying would it seem if you were trapped in unknown territory with no contact to Starfleet with little to no power. That's scary.
I love how finally someone thinks to cut the saucer off the engineering hull that was a first in film until now no one had the guts to attack the enterprise in that manner😂😂
In a better thought out, more logical, way more fascinating version of this scene using scotties universe changing trans-warp formula.... Scotty: "The nacells.... their gone!" Kirk: "Scotty prepare for pop and dash." Scotty: "Captain, are you serious?! We were drunk when I proposed that theor-" Kirk: "WILL IT WORK SCOTTY?! Scotty: "I mean in theory, we over load the warp core and channel the warp feild through the transporter system in the Star drive while separating the saucer. At the moment of overload the transporter site to site transports the saucer section from one place to another, but captain we won't get very far... Kirk: "Best outcome?" Scotty: "With available power, 50 AU give or take, but captain the stress on the saucers hull will be extreme, and we'll also have to shut down the impulse reactors to do it, we may escape but we'll emerge as lead brick in space. Kirk: "But we'll be alive and safely through the nebula... DO IT!" Scotty: "Aye sir, initiating star drive warp core overload. Transferring all warp power to transporter system now... Overload in 3 minutes!" Kirk: ""Good now get the hell up here. All hands this is the captain, evacuate to the saucer section immeadiately, saucer separation in 2 minutes... mark. Transport rooms begin site to site transports of all crew members to interior saucer core shelter zones at once. Mr. Sulu, prepare for saucer separation and emergency transport jump." Spock: "Captain may I remind you that a transwarp transport has never been attempted, certainly not with an mass as great as the saucer-" Kirk: "Any better option, any whatsoever I will gladly yield to it Spock!" Spock:" Given the situation... there is none that reulsts in our survival." Kirk: "You have no idea how much I was hoping to be wrong." Scene progresses as the swarm splits the neck in two, the saucer does separate, and then with half the crew captured along with urhura, spock and bones on the planet, the star drive overloads and the saucer transport jumps, emerging short of federation space inside the nebula, powerless and damaged but in one piece. The story progresses as it did except that kirk is on the saucer and has to try to restore the saucer and return to save his crew while spock and bones meet the alien on the frnaklin and try saving the captured crew. Kirk orders the remaining saucer crew to flee to Yorktown and get help while the saucer returns to fight and intentionally crashes on the planet as it did, but this time hitting the swarms strong hold taking out a great deal of them lessening their impact on yorktown giving them a chance. The rest progresses as it did. This is how you improve the lore, add in new trek tech, and make saving lives forefront while giving the enterprise a fighting death it deserves.
I remember when the TOS Enterprise could proximity detonate phaser blasts to find a cloaked Romulan ship. No reason they couldn’t have done the same thing with torpedoes.
@@balrighty3523 well this is still relativly early in the story of the enterprise under kirk, he likely doesnt have the experance to do that yet, remember he mastered large ship combat but this isnt that
@@aaroncabatingan5238 i mean for the phasers maybe but the torpedos no way, we are able to prox detonate missiles IRL now so they sould be able to prox detonate their torpedos
No, its just that everything the enterprise fights either has the frequency to bypass shields, like Marcus or krall, or just flat out overpowers the shields.
@@harvestercommander3250 which was stupid because we know shield frequences can be rotated on the fly and it was pretty clear when a standard klingon torpedo went right through the shields like they werent there that the klingons had the frequency. But they only had the current frequency, a two second frequency change and the battle is over.
Theory: The electricity inside the nebula might’ve caused disruptions to the warp drive which caused the Enterprise not to go into warp speed from escaping the swarm ships.
It seems the enterprise gets destroyed and a large portion of the crew gets sucked into space every movie, Chris Pine isn't a good captain if his ship is always getting destroyed. As cool as the special effects are the original captain Kirk did a much better job of protecting his ship.
Its lens flare Trek, with less than distinctive aliens. had just watched another scene from the movie, and I mistook the aliens for Discovery Klingons. I thought to myself "T'Kuvma", and I initially thought it was a scene from Star Trek Discovery.
OF COURSE you cant use comms through this nebula. Nebulas are always a convenient plot device which does whatever the plot requires to the ship OF COURSE the Enterprise is the only ship in the fleet who can navigate it. There are other Constitution classes in the fleet at this point, I guess they didnt get the new software patch for their sensors so no immediate rescue can launched when Starfleet realizes they've been gone too long. But even after taking heavy damage, they were still capable of going to warp EVEN THOUGH YOU CANT WARP WITH A DESTROYED DEFLECTOR DISH because the deflector dish initiates the warp field! you cant generate a warp field you can't warp!
I can't take this scene seriously. The first hit should of been the bridge which conveniently has a nice big clear window so you could even see the command staff and captain. Then they try to warp off without the deflector dish which is technically an impossibility at best or suicide at worst according to lore.
This Enterprise wasn't the prime universe Enterprise anyways. I had no emotional attachment to this ship. Unlike when the Enterorise was sacrificed to save Spock.
@@krashlyboo you do realize that youre not the only human on the planet, there's 8.2 billion, and amongst those 8.2 billion, you are merely a inconsequential bug. so to try and argue that your word determines if a movie is good or not, means you've overstepped your territory as a bug
@@capnsteele3365 Curious if you can explain why the swarm doesn't just dive into that nice big clear window and take out the command staff and the bridge? Why didn't the swam just take out the warp core thus destroying the entire ship in seconds? According to lore going to warp without a deflector dish will result in the tiniest particles doing catastrophic damage to the ship. How would warping with a destroyed deflector dish "work" when there's a ton of space debris in the area (including a freaking nebula)? I dunno man my definition for a bad movie is one that doesn't even follow established lore/rules for the universe.
Hi everyone! What grade (out of 10) would you give this video?
This video? Your grade is F. You failed to identify the correct species that is attacking the Enterprise.
The movie? 8/10 but this a minus because of the misinformation
0 cuz of misinformation
F. This wasn't the Klingons.
8/10
Wow their insurance is gonna go way up.
Does insurance even exist anymore in Star Trek Earth? I think healthcare is now completely free on Earth
@@garrettjackson1451 humanity got rid of money all together, for people to do what they wanna do, to chase their dreams, everything is supplied by the government. What you do as a individual could benefit the federation.
There's still currency, but it's not needed for basic needs, such as food, water, housing, schooling, do what you wanna do.
@@KyaliFloofDerg out of all the fictional universes I wanna live in Star Trek is one of them since humanity reached its full potential. I either work on a starship or just live the life of a average federation citizen on Earth 🌎 23rd or 24th century will do just fine I wonder what Texas would look like in Star Trek
@@garrettjackson1451 humanity nuked itself over “different ideological ideas of freedom”
But in the end something stronger emerged. Hopefully humanity won’t nuke itself and maybe become starfleet. Who knows?
@@KyaliFloofDerg Never heard of any currency in use by the Federation or it's citizens ever. The Federation does possess currency used by other worlds such as latinum when they want to make a deal, but don't use currency amongst themselves
The lighting is absolutely sick. Also, put yourself in their shoes. How terrifying would it seem if you were trapped in unknown territory with no contact to Starfleet with little to no power. That's scary.
I love how finally someone thinks to cut the saucer off the engineering hull that was a first in film until now no one had the guts to attack the enterprise in that manner😂😂
In a better thought out, more logical, way more fascinating version of this scene using scotties universe changing trans-warp formula....
Scotty: "The nacells.... their gone!"
Kirk: "Scotty prepare for pop and dash."
Scotty: "Captain, are you serious?! We were drunk when I proposed that theor-"
Kirk: "WILL IT WORK SCOTTY?!
Scotty: "I mean in theory, we over load the warp core and channel the warp feild through the transporter system in the Star drive while separating the saucer. At the moment of overload the transporter site to site transports the saucer section from one place to another, but captain we won't get very far...
Kirk: "Best outcome?"
Scotty: "With available power, 50 AU give or take, but captain the stress on the saucers hull will be extreme, and we'll also have to shut down the impulse reactors to do it, we may escape but we'll emerge as lead brick in space.
Kirk: "But we'll be alive and safely through the nebula... DO IT!"
Scotty: "Aye sir, initiating star drive warp core overload. Transferring all warp power to transporter system now... Overload in 3 minutes!"
Kirk: ""Good now get the hell up here. All hands this is the captain, evacuate to the saucer section immeadiately, saucer separation in 2 minutes... mark. Transport rooms begin site to site transports of all crew members to interior saucer core shelter zones at once. Mr. Sulu, prepare for saucer separation and emergency transport jump."
Spock: "Captain may I remind you that a transwarp transport has never been attempted, certainly not with an mass as great as the saucer-"
Kirk: "Any better option, any whatsoever I will gladly yield to it Spock!"
Spock:" Given the situation... there is none that reulsts in our survival."
Kirk: "You have no idea how much I was hoping to be wrong."
Scene progresses as the swarm splits the neck in two, the saucer does separate, and then with half the crew captured along with urhura, spock and bones on the planet, the star drive overloads and the saucer transport jumps, emerging short of federation space inside the nebula, powerless and damaged but in one piece. The story progresses as it did except that kirk is on the saucer and has to try to restore the saucer and return to save his crew while spock and bones meet the alien on the frnaklin and try saving the captured crew. Kirk orders the remaining saucer crew to flee to Yorktown and get help while the saucer returns to fight and intentionally crashes on the planet as it did, but this time hitting the swarms strong hold taking out a great deal of them lessening their impact on yorktown giving them a chance. The rest progresses as it did. This is how you improve the lore, add in new trek tech, and make saving lives forefront while giving the enterprise a fighting death it deserves.
Dude that was so interesting they should hire u as a writer I totally just visualized it as I was reading it lol
Dude did a better script than the official one
The original Enterprise never faced anything like this, or the other Enterprises.
This is a movie. And a much more exciting one compared to the previous ones.
@@Miniweet9167you do realize there had multiple movies released over the years between the 70s and the early 2000s, right?
@@Miniweet9167they had movies before, and this is not the same reality.
For me, personally, Star Trek 2009, Into Darkness and Beyond are all great movies
(This is my personal opinion it doesn't matter what you might think)
These aren't klingons. They wouldn't be using these small ships.
No they are a mutated human
@@kaman668 Actually it was a swarm of drones left behind by an ancient civilization
Watch the movie if you want context
...OK so they can't proximity detonate torpedoes? Nor command detonate them?
I remember when the TOS Enterprise could proximity detonate phaser blasts to find a cloaked Romulan ship. No reason they couldn’t have done the same thing with torpedoes.
Same idea
@@balrighty3523 well this is still relativly early in the story of the enterprise under kirk, he likely doesnt have the experance to do that yet, remember he mastered large ship combat but this isnt that
@@David-jt9ntOr the technology haven't been developed yet.
@@aaroncabatingan5238 i mean for the phasers maybe but the torpedos no way, we are able to prox detonate missiles IRL now so they sould be able to prox detonate their torpedos
this isnt the klingons
Shhh you'll ruin his mood 😂
federation shields are useless in the kelvinverse
No, its just that everything the enterprise fights either has the frequency to bypass shields, like Marcus or krall, or just flat out overpowers the shields.
@@Arith_the_avaliprecisely. We see this in Star Trek Generations.
@@harvestercommander3250 which was stupid because we know shield frequences can be rotated on the fly and it was pretty clear when a standard klingon torpedo went right through the shields like they werent there that the klingons had the frequency. But they only had the current frequency, a two second frequency change and the battle is over.
@ that argument is even more stupid.
There are no shields
Theory: The electricity inside the nebula might’ve caused disruptions to the warp drive which caused the Enterprise not to go into warp speed from escaping the swarm ships.
Here's when Celine Dion's "My Heart Will Go On" begins to play.
Shoulda used the "Riker maneuver"
Should really get the people titling your videos to watch the movies. This isn't Klingons. No honour in an unfair fight.
It seems the enterprise gets destroyed and a large portion of the crew gets sucked into space every movie, Chris Pine isn't a good captain if his ship is always getting destroyed. As cool as the special effects are the original captain Kirk did a much better job of protecting his ship.
I think that kind of thing did happen in TOS but offscreen due to budget
You can hear several times "Casualties on deck ___"
TOS Kirk had the highest death count of any prime timeline captain.
Redcoats: "Am I a joke to you?"
Did you literally just think "lol Star Trek means Klingons" and not bother looking into what's happening in this scene? 🤦♂️
Its lens flare Trek, with less than distinctive aliens. had just watched another scene from the movie, and I mistook the aliens for Discovery Klingons. I thought to myself "T'Kuvma", and I initially thought it was a scene from Star Trek Discovery.
OF COURSE you cant use comms through this nebula. Nebulas are always a convenient plot device which does whatever the plot requires to the ship OF COURSE the Enterprise is the only ship in the fleet who can navigate it. There are other Constitution classes in the fleet at this point, I guess they didnt get the new software patch for their sensors so no immediate rescue can launched when Starfleet realizes they've been gone too long. But even after taking heavy damage, they were still capable of going to warp EVEN THOUGH YOU CANT WARP WITH A DESTROYED DEFLECTOR DISH because the deflector dish initiates the warp field! you cant generate a warp field you can't warp!
Oh thank god someone pointed these things out. I don't understand why the swarm didn't just smash the bridge or warp core.
Rather, “Storm ships tear the Enterprise apart”. Subject verb agreement is essential in the English language.
I personally like this scene since it exemplifies everything I hate about Star Fleet designed ships.
10/10
I can't take this scene seriously. The first hit should of been the bridge which conveniently has a nice big clear window so you could even see the command staff and captain. Then they try to warp off without the deflector dish which is technically an impossibility at best or suicide at worst according to lore.
Damn the enterprise went down like a chump
Epic movie
This literally doesn't have the Klingons in at all...
Wide beam phasers, duh.
Aren’t these limited to phaser arrays? Not these phaser canon things?
Adorointerpraiser
But it’s not the Enterprise.
Shut up, you just a hater
It is you fool
I hate hate HATED this. Destroying the Enterprise is LAZY BOOKING!
Complain somewhere else
@@nwr9009 no, I like it here
Yeah well I loved it. It felt real.
How is it lazy?
I agree, even if they destroyed it, it shouldve lasted longer into the movie, but I do think the nebula scene was dope as hell
No duh
This Enterprise wasn't the prime universe Enterprise anyways. I had no emotional attachment to this ship. Unlike when the Enterorise was sacrificed to save Spock.
Krall was one of the lamest villains in ST history. How does somebody change from a blue skinned reptile into idris Elba in a matter of minutes?
go back to star wars.
Naw, you keep Abrams.
You keep Abrams.
Absolute Garbage Film
@@kandradreas4334 if you dont recognize this film as garbage you badly need mental correction. ..and it's my civic duty to alert you to that reality.
Steve Shives makes a good counter argument.
@@krashlyboo you do realize that youre not the only human on the planet, there's 8.2 billion, and amongst those 8.2 billion, you are merely a inconsequential bug. so to try and argue that your word determines if a movie is good or not, means you've overstepped your territory as a bug
@@capnsteele3365 Curious if you can explain why the swarm doesn't just dive into that nice big clear window and take out the command staff and the bridge? Why didn't the swam just take out the warp core thus destroying the entire ship in seconds?
According to lore going to warp without a deflector dish will result in the tiniest particles doing catastrophic damage to the ship. How would warping with a destroyed deflector dish "work" when there's a ton of space debris in the area (including a freaking nebula)?
I dunno man my definition for a bad movie is one that doesn't even follow established lore/rules for the universe.
@@ToolofSociety ill simply say that star trek lore is consistent everywhere but on the screen