Going Full Longswords vs 4 Players | AoE2
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Yellow here: Such a fun game man, can't wait to show you the BTS of our prep for this showdown. The lads and I had such a blast
you were too good haha as many points as him in the end
Dude nice game. My dogs name is zoot and he’s always napping
how to go longswords:
step 1: build 3 barracks
step 2: get the upgrades
step 3: lose the game
To be fair it could've worked if it was a 1v3, or if the arch players weren't so goated with the sauce
@@aa01blue38 These archer players were also microing far better than 1100 elo players. I play similar elo and people usually potato their archers.
@@skipper472 Really depends on the player. Archer micro is not some super hard thing.
@@skipper472yeah, except they only have one player to worry about and they have three teammates… little different
I felt Hera's comment on object permanence deep in my heart 11
I would struggle to beat any of them 1v1, the fact that you were even able to hold your own vs 4 of them is absolute insanity.
love the drop down techs/civ bonuses for who hera is playing each game pls keep doing it!
I've been playing a lot of Armenians lately. Would love to see them played in a 1v4. I'm not good at deer luring so it's really nice to just mule cart them.
Would love to see some frankish paladin play.
Mobility is crucial in these 1 v multiple games
The problem with 4v1 is even if you kill them, all it takes is 1 vill at one of the teams to be at anothrrs base
And they can sling an he can reboom.
Were you have no chance to reboom
yup, thats why most of the times it feels like he did "no damage"
an mesoamerican civ in these 1vX would be so awesome to watch
yeah but like hera said, they lack mobility
Ethiopian siege onagers could be juicy in 1vX!
Fun video as always, would love to see you play Burgundians and use flemish revolution
Nothing is better than overwhelming your oponent with longsword boys, too bad it don't happen that often.
Just another person commenting on the gameplay of the best AoE2 player in the world. Infantry are the worst unit type for turning a military advantage into villager kills if they are all you make, because they can't kill villagers close to TCs without taking heavy damage. Even with Gambesons, you need rams to take out TCs. In a 1v1, maybe it's fine, but 1v4 you have to take every advantage you can.
Burmese Long Swordsman with full castle-age upgrades does 10 damage to TC, 5 dps. Ram does ~24 dps and costs as much as 3.6 long swordsmen, so slightly better there, but main thing is that a ram dies to 175 arrows. 3.6 long swordsmen would die to just 108 arrows to a TC with Fletching, or 72 to a TC with Bodkin. Teal probably didn't have Bodkin, but the players going crossbows certainly did. Add to that the fact that rams mostly cost wood. To kill villagers with infantry you need to kill TCs; and to kill TCs in Castle age, especially Persian TCs, you need rams. (Mangonels don't pair as well with swordsmen because swordsmen don't protect them from cavalry as well as pikemen, and with 1v4 you can't afford to have your longswordsmen standing around killing buildings while mangonels slowly kill a TC.)
Later on, a switch to elephants would have been great, with the option of Hussar once Manipur Cavalry was in. With Howdah, Elite Battle Elephants take 1 damage from fully-upgraded arbalests. A Paladin dies to 60 arrows; the elephant dies to 320, while costing just 40 more food (and 5 less gold) than the paladin. Can withstand over 4x the arrows that a Huskarl can while barely costing twice as much.
The main point being that every unit has a counter. It's naive to think that players good enough to stop their scout from being trapped, and dozens of games played, would be so bad at the game that they can't recognize a counter to a mono-comp and stick to it. If you're going infantry, the last thing you want is for your opponent to go archers (cav archers in particular), while the best thing for you is for them to go pikemen.
So you make a switch towards a unit (elephant) that forces them to go into the unit that you already counter (pikemen).
I don't think scorpions are bad, but a siege workshop at home is of no use offensively in a 1v4. It's just too much idle time for siege units to move across the entirety of a 6-player map. And I must disagree on deleting all your walls in the late game. You got raided. If you say that "there will always be holes in the walls", well: patch those holes. The way that villager arrow scaling works (10 villagers add 10 arrows in Dark Age, but only 5 arrows with all TC upgrades) means that it's very often cost-effective to sit cavalry under TCs, even in a standard 1v1 against opponent who is merely as competent as oneself. When your opponent is three times as good at effectively using their resources, sacrificing hussars to raid farms is an easy decision.
Whereas if you fully wall, then the hussar raids run into those walls and the damage they can do is limited.
Id wanna see spanish (cannon galls), persians (war eles) and japanese (samurai) ! Keep it up doe !
he could have easily added skirmishers too with the swordsmen combo
"They crashed minute 5 'cause they were scared" 11
Koreans 1v4? "The power of numbers"
Have you gone lithouanians or poles yet in these?
nice 😸
aztecs, with pikemen, skirmishers, and siege onager, with sprinkle of jaguar if it counter anything severe
GOOD GAME
audio hera bhaiya
I won a single 1v1 game above 900. My opponent went all in on a small eco in castle and I barely managed to survive. Can't imagine facing 4 players stronger than that.
(I'm now well below 800 again.)
Unlocked a core memory I haven't watched davie504 in forever ... who knew he played aoe2????
Would love to see you play Portuguese in a team game, gold saving and organ guns
With extra pop but use the extra pop for fetoria
I would love to see you play with your custom civ
that would be awesome!
oh and, id love to see you play malay in these 1vX try to go for karambits (with pop boost even 11) and you solve the pop issue. imagine, 500 karambits wreking havoc across the whole map 11111
Do you allow them to sling？
that would be a nice rule, no slinging
you need to incorperate siege towers into your champs build. Faster mobility and can garrison for cover.
that was some sick penetration! .. i mean the scorpion on those feudal age archers :P
Civ suggestions
1 goths
2 ethiopians
3 gujaras
To be honest, I think the best approach in these kind of games is to go fast castle and castle drop a player and take out their TC before they reach Castle themselves. You might end up getting raided at home while this is happening, but atleast you get that other guy's resources and delay their progress alot.
Can you do byzantines please?
A lot of people can avoid therapy if they have a hobby.
And no, drinking, smoking, sleeping, travelling or hanging out with friends isn't a hobby.😂
great job losing this one Hera! proud of you
honest question, why go scorpions instead of mangonel? i get that mass scorpions are good but until you get there they always feel so useless, never one shot anything, and cant hit THAT many units unless is a really nice line up.
holy late upload today
the lack of siege was the problem.
With a few rams and mangos instead of the second TC hera could have steamrolled teal and the rest.
Infatry without siege is useless.
"Infatry without siege is useless."
* laughs in goth *
@@agustinfranco0 goths infantry is siege 11
portuguese feitoria.
No way it would be good in a 1v4, but i love the building
he already tried that once
Correct me if im weong but infantry is hardly microable isnt it? Thats why it works for noobs (like me) and against them.
i think when hera says micro beats infantry its because militia will never reach and beat a kiting ball of archers
Teutons 1v4 would be awesome. The strongest strat in the whole game is the FC Teutonic Knight rush, trust me.
specially if you want mobility
No audio?
yes there is
man what makes you think you can just take on 4 plays lol
muted??
Thought it was just me 11
Portuguese
Play chinese maybe? Against some tougher opponents
U never played Sicilians
1100 ELO today beats viper five years ago is a funny comment
early 🎉
Same shirt again? Bro.... its been 7 years
(also please play teutons i wanna learn from you as they are my favorite civ but im not succsessfull with it :( )
Teutons are great but hard to play,
Their unique units are very slow
Powerful but slow
Weak to range due to their speeds an low pierce armor
the first pro tip is dont make teutonic knigths
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they are smurfing the hell out of you bro. That one guy is not 700 elo.
why not? you didnt see their Dark Age, which is probably where most of the mistakes happen.
Pathing /auto regrouping is terrible
filmed on a potato
nah bro you are looking at a mirror
@@agustinfranco0 not what your mom thinks champ