I personally use a 4 1/4 as a guy. I use it because it allows my hand the ability to manipulate how firm I hold the racket better. I just feel like with the bigger grips I have a hard time holding the racket at the different firmness levels. It also allows me to keep my wrist relaxed which has helped my tennis elbow issues immensely
Love the video. I am coming from a place where tennis shops are very rare. Sometimes, you don't even see a tennis racquet in a sports shop so we don't get to demo, nor even hold a racquet that we might be interested in... that's why videos like yours is heaven sent to us... so... if you don't mind, can I suggest a few video topics in the future? (1.) explanation between buttery feel VS crisp feel, and why would you choose one over the other, then give some examples of each from every brand. (2.) sweet spot comparison between brands, and where they are located (ex: Yonex 95 vs Babolat 98, or Head 95 vs Wilson 97) (3.) should 2.5 ntrp, but strong players buy intermediate to advance racquet, or should they just stick to beginner ones. (4.) test racquets that will enhance a players backhand slice and prove which racquet stats could do that. (ex: either Chris, Jason or Roy playtest Head Prestige Pro, Dunlop CX 200 and Yonex Vcore 95 for the 95 inchers, have some samples for the 98 and 97, then the 100s; then a playtest between close and open string pattern, then playtest between fast and heavy racquets). The same person will be doing the test so the skill and strokes will be the same to show how the racquet specs affect the individual/s BH slice. I am looking forward to these topics in the future and I am hoping for your consideration. Thank you TW team! Stay safe.
Using the common finger test, my grip size should be around a 6/8. However, I can use anything down to a 3/8 pretty comfortably. It's when it becomes 1/4 or smaller that it becomes an issue for me. I try to buy 1/2 when I can and will settle for 3/8 if I can't find 1/2. Anything larger than 1/2 is practically non-existent on the market, so I don't bother trying to find them. I'm lucky that I'm right-handed though, since my left hand is actually bigger than my right.
Prince Resi Pro is my favorite replacement grip, by far. I highly recommend it to anyone looking for a replacement grip that’s got a light cushion & good tack.
Nice to hear someone is using the Prince 100P like me. My grip size is a 5 which is hard to find in a racket, but I noticed that a bigger grip helps you not grip too tightly.
i use a No5 grip then a overgrip bcos my correct size is a 5" with a smaller grip you can grip too hard under pressure so use your correct size,a smaller grip will make u slice on a one handed backhand bcos i had that issue soon i changed to my correct grip no more slicing instead topspin .
A smaller grip size is more likely to cause tennis elbow from off-center hits. You don't have as long a moment arm (radius of the grip) to resist the torque and so it puts more force on the arm.
I hate smaller grips. It’s easier for me to relax my grip and manipulate the face of my racquet and feel my contact point better with a bigger grip. Smaller grips I feel more vibration in my wrist, elbow and definitely launch balls more often.
I'm an average size guy, used to do 3/8 with thin overgrip, just loved the feel when i switched to 1/8 (+ thin overgrip). Better wrist snap on serve, easier spin on groundstrokes, more confidence in the grip overall, better feel.
Tennis Spin has a video on this, 4 1/2 was the standard in the days of wooden racquets when you moved the racquet straight through the plane more. Now there's more wrist action and different grips on shots. Fed, Nadal, and Djokovic, all over 6 feet tall, use 4 1/4 and 4 3/8.
@@PaulWolfe1 Fed and Rafa probably using 4 3/8 - Fed likely 4 1/2 - Novak DEFINETELY is using 4 5/8 or bigger. I checked videos of them and paused time after time after time..
Brittany prefers 4 1/4 (or L2 grip size) without an overgrip, just the base or stock grip. Tiffany does like to play with an overgrip, but if using a 4 1/4 (or L2) will either wrap it very tight and thin, or use a thinner overgrip like the Wilson Pro Sensation. Ideally if she has the option, she would probably go with a 4 1/8 (or L1) with a an overgrip, especially on racquets like Babolat or Yonex which tend to feel slightly bigger in hand. Troy, TW
I would say that the 4 and 1/8 grip size with two overgrips is closer to a 4 and 1/4 grips size. So maybe try out a racquet with a 4 and 1/4 grips size to see how you like it. Troy, TW
Hey Michelle, you play like a rock star. I love you all, guys. Michelle I remember once you said you were exercising to play with the pro staff RF, it was kinda hard after your holidays. As I'm a ohbh player, sometimes it's hard to handle à heavier racket on the backhand (playing with the vcp 97 310 but I'd like to handle the vcp 97 HD or blade 98 v7). Could you recommend me some exercices to handle heavier sw on my ohbh ? Thank you in advance. 😊😊😊😊
@Jonathan Chopplet, Thanks for the kind words! Love that question! For me, I find power and strength in explosive movements and a strong core, which I'm always battling. So when I feel like I'm not swinging through fast, I often will do kettle bell swings, single arm snatches, wall balls, but then also side wall balls (so mimicking the forehand and backhand) and even thrusters. Those sorts of movements allow me to engage several parts of my body and work in explosive movements which seem to translate well on the court! Hope that makes sense and helps! Michelle, TW
Hi TW, just tried a friend’s Dulop CX Tour 200, which I thought was way out of my comfort zone. But surprisingly I really like the whipiness and control/ precision, very connected and feels like a single long piece if that make sense. The weight distribution feels very nice, hefty but still whippy, very different from my current racket Speed MP. Is the Dunlop considered a depolarized setup? I really love the weight distribution and feel like it’s an extension of my arm which I don’t feel on my Speed MP and previous Ezone 98 (which I thought was too headlight and the hoop felt it had no weight, also way too muted, hollow and launchy). What rackets have the same heft but cut through the air super fast like the Dunlop CX Tour but more forgiving? I’m looking at the Extreme Tour and Blade v8.
Did you try the CX 200 Tour 16x19? or 18x20? Either way, they spec out pretty close besides the leather grip on the 18x20 making a bit heavier. From Wilson I would consider the Blade 98 16x19 v8 (and maybe need to add just a bit of weight inside the butt cap to make it a little more head light), and the Pro Staff 97 v13. The Head Extreme Tour could have some potential as well, a bit easier power, but still pretty maneuverable swingweight, just not quite as much feel and comfort as the CX 200 Tour. The Yonex VCORE 95, and VCORE Pro 97 (310) could be worth a demo, if you haven't already, as well as the Prince Twistpower X97 Tour. Troy, TW
@@tenniswarehouse thanks, I tried the 16x19, very demanding. But there’s something about that weight distribution, maybe it can only be found at sticks 310g and above? The slices felt amazing, was it because it had extra weight in the throat and handle?
@@cd8145, Hard to say for certain, but it may have something to do with that static weight, or how headlight it is. Also, the racquets I mentioned previously all have a pretty manageable average swingwieght, for most standards. The feel of those Dunlop CX 200 Tours may also be a factor, the thinner beam paired with the Sonic Core technology, which is similar to a foam filled racquet (sometimes found in pro-stock frames) gives a very unique and good feel in my opinion. Troy, TW
@@tenniswarehouse thanks for the replies, I saw some more reviews of the Extreme Tour and it looks like it suffers from the same issues as my previous Ezone 98, pingy and weak hoop. Even experimenting with lead tape it didn’t feel quite right not really sure why. Imma wait for the new Head Boom Pro, spec seems really nice and I do find myself hitting the upper part of the hoop often.
Most players grips are too big. I have long fingers and used a grip 5 or 4 5/8 I now use a 4 or 4 1/2 If the grip is too big you obviously grip tighter as long as the fingers are not touching the palm the grip is fine a small gap is all you need. I have got several players to change to a smaller grip. Some would not but did due to injury changed and now feel the benefits. Just because it feels comfortable to you does not mean a big grip is the correct size.
I personally use a 4 1/4 as a guy. I use it because it allows my hand the ability to manipulate how firm I hold the racket better. I just feel like with the bigger grips I have a hard time holding the racket at the different firmness levels. It also allows me to keep my wrist relaxed which has helped my tennis elbow issues immensely
Yo tambien.
Love the video. I am coming from a place where tennis shops are very rare. Sometimes, you don't even see a tennis racquet in a sports shop so we don't get to demo, nor even hold a racquet that we might be interested in... that's why videos like yours is heaven sent to us... so... if you don't mind, can I suggest a few video topics in the future?
(1.) explanation between buttery feel VS crisp feel, and why would you choose one over the other, then give some examples of each from every brand.
(2.) sweet spot comparison between brands, and where they are located (ex: Yonex 95 vs Babolat 98, or Head 95 vs Wilson 97)
(3.) should 2.5 ntrp, but strong players buy intermediate to advance racquet, or should they just stick to beginner ones.
(4.) test racquets that will enhance a players backhand slice and prove which racquet stats could do that. (ex: either Chris, Jason or Roy playtest Head Prestige Pro, Dunlop CX 200 and Yonex Vcore 95 for the 95 inchers, have some samples for the 98 and 97, then the 100s; then a playtest between close and open string pattern, then playtest between fast and heavy racquets). The same person will be doing the test so the skill and strokes will be the same to show how the racquet specs affect the individual/s BH slice.
I am looking forward to these topics in the future and I am hoping for your consideration.
Thank you TW team!
Stay safe.
I just went up a grip size and wish I would’ve done it long ago. Much more stable for me, and it seems to make me less wristy and more consistent.
Using the common finger test, my grip size should be around a 6/8. However, I can use anything down to a 3/8 pretty comfortably. It's when it becomes 1/4 or smaller that it becomes an issue for me. I try to buy 1/2 when I can and will settle for 3/8 if I can't find 1/2. Anything larger than 1/2 is practically non-existent on the market, so I don't bother trying to find them. I'm lucky that I'm right-handed though, since my left hand is actually bigger than my right.
Prince Resi Pro is my favorite replacement grip, by far. I highly recommend it to anyone looking for a replacement grip that’s got a light cushion & good tack.
Nice to hear someone is using the Prince 100P like me. My grip size is a 5 which is hard to find in a racket, but I noticed that a bigger grip helps you not grip too tightly.
Same , so i use multiple overgrips
I like Yonex 4 3/8 but with a thinner replacement grip so I can feel the bevels better. My final grip size with overgrip is 4 1/2.
i use a No5 grip then a overgrip bcos my correct size is a 5" with a smaller grip you can grip too hard under pressure so use your correct size,a smaller grip will make u slice on a one handed backhand bcos i had that issue soon i changed to my correct grip no more slicing instead topspin .
A smaller grip size is more likely to cause tennis elbow from off-center hits. You don't have as long a moment arm (radius of the grip) to resist the torque and so it puts more force on the arm.
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I love the Tourna Grip for Spring/Summer. Then the Wilson pro tacky overgrip. Love your shows. :) Keep safe.
I hate smaller grips. It’s easier for me to relax my grip and manipulate the face of my racquet and feel my contact point better with a bigger grip. Smaller grips I feel more vibration in my wrist, elbow and definitely launch balls more often.
I use a 4 3/8 for more Flat and I use that grip size so I could handle more spin
I'm an average size guy, used to do 3/8 with thin overgrip, just loved the feel when i switched to 1/8 (+ thin overgrip). Better wrist snap on serve, easier spin on groundstrokes, more confidence in the grip overall, better feel.
Tennis Spin has a video on this, 4 1/2 was the standard in the days of wooden racquets when you moved the racquet straight through the plane more. Now there's more wrist action and different grips on shots. Fed, Nadal, and Djokovic, all over 6 feet tall, use 4 1/4 and 4 3/8.
@@PaulWolfe1 Fed and Rafa probably using 4 3/8 - Fed likely 4 1/2 - Novak DEFINETELY is using 4 5/8 or bigger. I checked videos of them and paused time after time after time..
@@chrismarcel7 Rafa uses 4 1/4. And his hands are larger than mine for sure.
@@PaulWolfe1 Yes, it seems to be a very small grip for his hands.
When I was a kid, they only had 4 5/8, 4 1/2 and 4 3/8. I started playing when in 1980.
If they use 4 1/4, do they add overgrips? Then it’s more close to 3/8.
Brittany prefers 4 1/4 (or L2 grip size) without an overgrip, just the base or stock grip. Tiffany does like to play with an overgrip, but if using a 4 1/4 (or L2) will either wrap it very tight and thin, or use a thinner overgrip like the Wilson Pro Sensation. Ideally if she has the option, she would probably go with a 4 1/8 (or L1) with a an overgrip, especially on racquets like Babolat or Yonex which tend to feel slightly bigger in hand. Troy, TW
I always say to get a smaller grip and size it up. Getting a 4 1/2 and 4 5/8 size, it’s way harder to sell that racquet.
I personally don’t mind 4 1/4 and 4 3/8 grips, anything higher just feels too big for me.
Hi, I’m usine à 4 and 1/8 wifi 2 lvergripe but wondering if I should get a 4 3/8 or it’s pretty much the same?
I would say that the 4 and 1/8 grip size with two overgrips is closer to a 4 and 1/4 grips size. So maybe try out a racquet with a 4 and 1/4 grips size to see how you like it. Troy, TW
Isn’t smaller grip size easier to cause tennis elbow?
I believe so - requires tighter grip, which is one cause of tennis elbow.
Does size matter?
Hey Michelle, you play like a rock star.
I love you all, guys.
Michelle I remember once you said you were exercising to play with the pro staff RF, it was kinda hard after your holidays.
As I'm a ohbh player, sometimes it's hard to handle à heavier racket on the backhand (playing with the vcp 97 310 but I'd like to handle the vcp 97 HD or blade 98 v7).
Could you recommend me some exercices to handle heavier sw on my ohbh ? Thank you in advance. 😊😊😊😊
@Jonathan Chopplet,
Thanks for the kind words! Love that question! For me, I find power and strength in explosive movements and a strong core, which I'm always battling. So when I feel like I'm not swinging through fast, I often will do kettle bell swings, single arm snatches, wall balls, but then also side wall balls (so mimicking the forehand and backhand) and even thrusters. Those sorts of movements allow me to engage several parts of my body and work in explosive movements which seem to translate well on the court! Hope that makes sense and helps!
Michelle, TW
@@tenniswarehouse Thank you so much Michelle !
4 5/8 here
Hi TW, just tried a friend’s Dulop CX Tour 200, which I thought was way out of my comfort zone. But surprisingly I really like the whipiness and control/ precision, very connected and feels like a single long piece if that make sense. The weight distribution feels very nice, hefty but still whippy, very different from my current racket Speed MP. Is the Dunlop considered a depolarized setup? I really love the weight distribution and feel like it’s an extension of my arm which I don’t feel on my Speed MP and previous Ezone 98 (which I thought was too headlight and the hoop felt it had no weight, also way too muted, hollow and launchy).
What rackets have the same heft but cut through the air super fast like the Dunlop CX Tour but more forgiving? I’m looking at the Extreme Tour and Blade v8.
Did you try the CX 200 Tour 16x19? or 18x20? Either way, they spec out pretty close besides the leather grip on the 18x20 making a bit heavier. From Wilson I would consider the Blade 98 16x19 v8 (and maybe need to add just a bit of weight inside the butt cap to make it a little more head light), and the Pro Staff 97 v13. The Head Extreme Tour could have some potential as well, a bit easier power, but still pretty maneuverable swingweight, just not quite as much feel and comfort as the CX 200 Tour. The Yonex VCORE 95, and VCORE Pro 97 (310) could be worth a demo, if you haven't already, as well as the Prince Twistpower X97 Tour. Troy, TW
@@tenniswarehouse thanks, I tried the 16x19, very demanding. But there’s something about that weight distribution, maybe it can only be found at sticks 310g and above? The slices felt amazing, was it because it had extra weight in the throat and handle?
@@cd8145, Hard to say for certain, but it may have something to do with that static weight, or how headlight it is. Also, the racquets I mentioned previously all have a pretty manageable average swingwieght, for most standards. The feel of those Dunlop CX 200 Tours may also be a factor, the thinner beam paired with the Sonic Core technology, which is similar to a foam filled racquet (sometimes found in pro-stock frames) gives a very unique and good feel in my opinion. Troy, TW
@@tenniswarehouse thanks for the replies, I saw some more reviews of the Extreme Tour and it looks like it suffers from the same issues as my previous Ezone 98, pingy and weak hoop. Even experimenting with lead tape it didn’t feel quite right not really sure why. Imma wait for the new Head Boom Pro, spec seems really nice and I do find myself hitting the upper part of the hoop often.
Secret share thanks.
I cant decide between 1/4 and 2/8….oh!!!! Its the same thing!!!!
I serve bigger with a smaller grip, but the rest of my game suffers.
1/4 for these ladies is normal. Not small for them. Their hands are not that big compare to Nadal using a 1/4
Nadal uses a custom grip that's actually between L2 and L3. With overgrip the final size is closer to 4 1/2.
Most players grips are too big. I have long fingers and used a grip 5 or 4 5/8 I now use a 4 or 4 1/2
If the grip is too big you obviously grip tighter as long as the fingers are not touching the palm the grip is fine a small gap is all you need.
I have got several players to change to a smaller grip. Some would not but did due to injury changed and now feel the benefits.
Just because it feels comfortable to you does not mean a big grip is the correct size.
can you stop filming these on a potato please?
You can send them all some webcams :v
You can always listen to the audio only version on iTunes, Spotify or anywhere else you would listen to podcasts!
Michelle, TW