Natalie plays a "Go Big or Go Home" style of play. Very impressive forehand power and depth coupled with an excellent net game. Would hate to be her opponent on a day when is totally "on" the whole time. Valiant effort by Winston to compete.
It's impossible to get into a rhythm against such an aggressive hitter who's trying to come to net as much as possible - very difficult to play against, I'm sure.
very big. but her precision sux, she misses targets alot. I'd guess she'd likely benefit from a professionally customized racquet, it would aid her precision
one more thing: she tries to hit too small targets, like she's aiming too close to the lines. if she'd correct that to targets with a bigger margin her score would appreciate it
@@formulaic78 there are prrcise players on almost any level of play. mostly about technique and how well racquet swings (does it swing naturally so it can become an extension of your arm or this is not the case) - this is what pro customizers achieve but it happens by accident as well - finding a racquet that suits you and listens to you. I messed with amateur customization and one can improve his racquet much, however it's best not to overdo it lol
At some point I was like...ditch the second serve man, just go big twice. If you double fault some, so be it. You'll get some in and have a fighting chance at least.
I try to hit that down the line weak service return as much as I can. It's only ever gone in once with full power. What a shot though. You don't see tour players trying it too much. Not high enough success rate, I guess.
Natalie is a big striker from the baseline. She hit a ton of serve return winners. If her game is that she's more of a serve and volley player and better at net than baseline, then her net skills must be insane. Would've loved to see her come up to net a lot more. Great match, thanks for posting this video!
Nice to see a slice backhand with full control. A lot of times slices can be wristy and have long/mechanical swings. Really nice when someone is able to rely on a quiet wrist and pure racquet head control to work the slice. Probably the same reason her volleys are very nice.
It's what great players do. A 10 UTR is going to capitalize on floaty slower serves like Winston's 2nd. Against a 4.5 it's a point-starter. Against a 5.5 it's cannon fodder.
A couple observations which echo other people's comments: 1) Winston's 2nd serve: Natalie attacked it and blasted forehands the entire match. The only points Winston won on his 2nd serve were when Natalie went for too much and missed the return. Since Winston's 2nd serve doesn't have enough on it to get to Natalie's backhand, he may have done better taking some off the first serve and getting a higher percentage in, ideally to her backhand side where she just slices it back. This strategy would have allowed Winston to start the point neutral instead of just praying that Natalie misses the return. 2) Matchup Issues: This was a tough one for Winston since he likes to stay at the baseline and grind. Since Natalie likes coming into net or bringing her opponent up to the net, her game highlighted some of Winston's weaknesses (ex: passing shots and volleying). I think Natalie won every single point that had a "cat and mouse" component to it.
Especially when you miss that many 1st serves - no matter how good/safe your second is : you're putting a lot of pressure on it. Slow it down a little, slice more or kick it more so you're not on your back foot 75% of them. Goes for Nathalie or anyone else.
Natalie has an awesome and aggressive service return and some very smart volleys and drop shots. Her serve obviously needs some more consistency and I think with a better shoulder/arm rotation, she could bring a lot of those “hit the tape” misses over the net. Winston has an elegant and high quality game too, if he could just reduce the number of unforced errors. All in all, it was an entertaining and fun match to watch. Thank you both! 👏👏
When Natalie used her hips on her forehand she made every shot, the only time she missed returns is when she didn’t use her hips as much, but this lady has amazing shots and Winston’s second serve was being murdered by this lady! Great playing and amazing performance by Natalie!
Wow Natalie has a great slice backhand and slice approach. Very Stefan Edberg like! It's definitely a lost art. Winston is solid but needs to develop a first serve as a weapon. Seems like he always just hits 2 second serves which is ok against 4.5 to 5.0 level, but then its feasting time for returners above that level.
she's so fun to watch, especially if she cleans up the consistency a bit. love the return game and how aggressive she plays! Winston definitely feeling the pressure to put in bigger serves towards the end (which lead to some DFs).
Anyone see that video going viral of that lady got hit by softie volley and screamed bloody murder cursing the guy and throwing her racquet twice at him. Highly recommend
She plays nothing like most college women- such a joy to watch her shotmaking and aggression. Natalie destroyed Winston's serve and he couldn't really get it to his backhand.
You did well, competitive games. A 4.5 guy at my club played a former D1 female player and lost 6-0, 4-0. It ended 4-0 cuz the 4.5 guy suddenly had somewhere to go. 🤷🏻♂️
Interesting match-up of styles. Natalie’s first serve is a definite weak spot; toward the end of the set she began taking some pace off and focused on placement to get it in and get the point started (a wise move). Her court sense is pretty strong. She was hitting behind you effectively and without hesitation. Great ball control whether slicing the backhand or spanking forehand returns off second serves. Really nice instincts at the net, nice technique, great positioning. Great balance. If you had served REALLY big and put her on the defensive, moved it around the box, you would have controlled the center of the court better and it would have been closer. She kept you on the move fairly easily with returns and change-ups. Fun encounter to watch.
I like how she plays off the front foot and always wants to be attacking. Interesting string combo as well - that hybrid certainly was producing a flatter more penetrating trajectory of shot compared to full bed poly.
hey Winston, a long time fan here. Just want to say I enjoy watching this channel a lot! I think you are a much better player than when you started this channel. You have made great technical improvement on all your shots, except for your serve, and I think I know what's holding you back. I recommend trying this two change. 1)left arm and right arm reach trophy position together, this would eliminate the "drag" in your serve and reduce serve going out; 2)racket face during trophy position not facing back fence, which it is right now. racket face facing back fence should be a result of your body turning, not just your right arm overstretching. I think these two change should make your serve much more crisp, and with a better serve you will be a solid 5.0 player, which you are not that far from. Just my thoughts, might not work but i think worth a try.
uh, kudos to you for keeping the consistency going on the 2nd serve, even tho she tagged them for winners most of the time. I did that to players in college, they double-faulted when they'd see me come in and SLAP! the return for a winner cross court; i did it off of both wings. I mean, i was a few feet behind the service line when I cranked on it; it's funny because Directors and Coaches on RUclips are only just starting to teach the aggressive style of crushing the 2nd serve Natalie is a fun player; plays more like a guy
Back in the day (1977), I was playing varsity High school tennis. I was a bit of a freak in that I hardly practiced but had a natural ability to serve and my serves reached nearly 120mph (with a head competition racquet). Unfortunately, the rest of my game wasn’t at that level and my natural laziness prevented me from reaching my potential. Something I regret. Anyway, I was at a group lesson at Tam Tennis Club in north IL burbs and a younger girl was training with her coach on a nearby court. I noticed her coach exchange some words with my HS coach. Her coach, Bob Marimba(sp?), signaled for me to come over. When I did he told the younger girl , “ if you return this kids serve, then you can return just about any serve you’ll face in competition.” Needless to say she quickly started returning everything I had. It was like hitting against a wall. I don’t think I won a volley. Lol I saw that young girl a few years later while watching the finals of Wimbledon. That younger girl was Andrea Yeager. That’s My brush with greatness!
She never warmed up her serve and she was still never in trouble. Goes to show that even a good 4.5 level serve is just target practice for someone a level higher. Also, Singaporean?
There's a young lady who played D1 playing on the 4.5 ladder in Raleigh and she's 6-0 and none of the matches have been close. and she didn't even play at a big/successful program.
Winston is a good player, and definitely a 4.5, but I wouldn't say he has a good 4.5 serve. Not meant to be a dig at all, but I'd say his serve is the worst part of his game relative to the rest of it. He has really solid groundstrokes
@@pacersfan550 agreed, most serves at 4.5 level are better, and some are really good. With that said, everyone at the 4.5 level has some flaws to their game, and his is clearly the serve, which he can overcome against other 4.5 players but not against higher level players
I'd love to see her play when she was on her game. She was spraying too many shots and too many double faults. But what a great striker when she wasn't going for winners so much. And when her serve was consistent she had so much variety. I was really expecting a lot more net play from her intro. She really just played situational tennis, for the most part. But, man, she's really good and has all the strokes. She pounds everything deep. She made you stay on the baseline unless she wanted to reel you in. She's really good.
Winston, your serve + 1 is a liability. You need to work on a bigger kick and MOSTLY better placement on your serve. In addition, you need to work on switching your grip immediately after the serve, finding where you want to stand (not chilling in no man's land) and get in the ready position for the first ball after the serve. SOO many points where you hit a good serve, and just are not ready for the next ball . And you have a lot strengths, but this is important because every point stars with serve + 1 and you gotta be able to hold serve. On the plus side, your inside out forehand is a beast
She has some great pop on all her shots! She was really off on her serve. So many missed first serves and too many doubles. And she missed so many groundstrokes by a small margin, too. But, she was never really in trouble in the match... I really like her game, in general!
First serve seemed to be your only weapon against her, very tough game but well played. Given Natalie's play style, she would benefit a great deal by improving her serve, especially placement and consistency. It almost looks like she doesn't want to play baseline by hitting every shot big, if she had just slightly better serve, she could come to net a lot more easier and win more points at net. Just my 2 cents, great video as always.
I would think Natalie could get over 10.0 with a good coach for that 2nd serve. Collapses to the left and steps around a little too far with the right foot which extenuates it. Some lovely shots though and her slice/style is fun to watch
Natalie plays a "Go Big or Go Home" style of play. Very impressive forehand power and depth coupled with an excellent net game. Would hate to be her opponent on a day when is totally "on" the whole time. Valiant effort by Winston to compete.
It's impossible to get into a rhythm against such an aggressive hitter who's trying to come to net as much as possible - very difficult to play against, I'm sure.
Natalie is a BIG hitter. Would love to see her back on the channel someday. Great video as always, mate 💛
very big. but her precision sux, she misses targets alot. I'd guess she'd likely benefit from a professionally customized racquet, it would aid her precision
one more thing: she tries to hit too small targets, like she's aiming too close to the lines. if she'd correct that to targets with a bigger margin her score would appreciate it
@@zedalive4764 Haha. This is my biggest weakness. Playing like Federer with the skill level of, well, me.
@@formulaic78 there are prrcise players on almost any level of play. mostly about technique and how well racquet swings (does it swing naturally so it can become an extension of your arm or this is not the case) - this is what pro customizers achieve but it happens by accident as well - finding a racquet that suits you and listens to you. I messed with amateur customization and one can improve his racquet much, however it's best not to overdo it lol
She freaking PUNISHES weak 2nd serves. Love it.
At some point I was like...ditch the second serve man, just go big twice. If you double fault some, so be it. You'll get some in and have a fighting chance at least.
I try to hit that down the line weak service return as much as I can. It's only ever gone in once with full power. What a shot though. You don't see tour players trying it too much. Not high enough success rate, I guess.
Natalie is such a big inspiration especially as a competitive, recreational player wanting to improve their game! 🥰
Those forhand slaps were making the fence earn its money. Loved the camera angle, really showed how fast and powerful her shots are.
Natalie is a big striker from the baseline. She hit a ton of serve return winners. If her game is that she's more of a serve and volley player and better at net than baseline, then her net skills must be insane. Would've loved to see her come up to net a lot more. Great match, thanks for posting this video!
English needs work
LOL at the face and reaction after the back to back second serve aces. We feel that pain, lol.
Nice to see a slice backhand with full control. A lot of times slices can be wristy and have long/mechanical swings. Really nice when someone is able to rely on a quiet wrist and pure racquet head control to work the slice. Probably the same reason her volleys are very nice.
She thrashed your 2nd serve
It's what great players do. A 10 UTR is going to capitalize on floaty slower serves like Winston's 2nd.
Against a 4.5 it's a point-starter. Against a 5.5 it's cannon fodder.
@@mskcouric very true
"TRASSSSHHHHED"
It's fun watching you two battle it out. Some of Natalie's serves are brutal.. she's really good!
A couple observations which echo other people's comments:
1) Winston's 2nd serve: Natalie attacked it and blasted forehands the entire match. The only points Winston won on his 2nd serve were when Natalie went for too much and missed the return. Since Winston's 2nd serve doesn't have enough on it to get to Natalie's backhand, he may have done better taking some off the first serve and getting a higher percentage in, ideally to her backhand side where she just slices it back. This strategy would have allowed Winston to start the point neutral instead of just praying that Natalie misses the return.
2) Matchup Issues: This was a tough one for Winston since he likes to stay at the baseline and grind. Since Natalie likes coming into net or bringing her opponent up to the net, her game highlighted some of Winston's weaknesses (ex: passing shots and volleying). I think Natalie won every single point that had a "cat and mouse" component to it.
If Natalie cleans up her serves especially double faults she'll tough to beat.
Especially when you miss that many 1st serves - no matter how good/safe your second is : you're putting a lot of pressure on it. Slow it down a little, slice more or kick it more so you're not on your back foot 75% of them. Goes for Nathalie or anyone else.
@@marcgrondin65 100% agree and well said.
Thank you for sharing. So great to see a female player serve and volley. Would love to see more players with different styles.
Hey guys!! I am from Brazil, i am very excited because the 4:18 ball just dropped here at home!!
lol
I fucking love this guy.
Natalie has an awesome and aggressive service return and some very smart volleys and drop shots. Her serve obviously needs some more consistency and I think with a better shoulder/arm rotation, she could bring a lot of those “hit the tape” misses over the net. Winston has an elegant and high quality game too, if he could just reduce the number of unforced errors. All in all, it was an entertaining and fun match to watch. Thank you both! 👏👏
Natalie loves to go BIG! That forehand is money! I'm a fan
When Natalie used her hips on her forehand she made every shot, the only time she missed returns is when she didn’t use her hips as much, but this lady has amazing shots and Winston’s second serve was being murdered by this lady! Great playing and amazing performance by Natalie!
Love this channel, enjoy very much watching the court level video. Natalie's power-generating form is so admirable.
I'd be intrigued to see her play Amy Zhu, Patsy, Claire (D3)
or other female players you've had on the channel in the past!
Thanks, Winston!
You didn’t lose, Winston. 1) you got few games off a D1 player 2) you gained a subscriber. Keep it up!
Wow Natalie has a great slice backhand and slice approach. Very Stefan Edberg like! It's definitely a lost art. Winston is solid but needs to develop a first serve as a weapon. Seems like he always just hits 2 second serves which is ok against 4.5 to 5.0 level, but then its feasting time for returners above that level.
Slice like Martina.
You are too old to be watching these videos.
@@jeanpauljeanpaul2530You are too young to be watching these videos.
she's so fun to watch, especially if she cleans up the consistency a bit. love the return game and how aggressive she plays! Winston definitely feeling the pressure to put in bigger serves towards the end (which lead to some DFs).
Anyone see that video going viral of that lady got hit by softie volley and screamed bloody murder cursing the guy and throwing her racquet twice at him. Highly recommend
yeah was on X really bizarre stuff crazy meltdown by college player???
@@eddiepearce5307looked like adult recreational doubles
I like that it was so popular that we just talk about it here unrelated to Winston's video hah
I need to look this up...sounds fascinating.
A prime example of someone who should never be allowed to hold a racket ever again
She plays nothing like most college women- such a joy to watch her shotmaking and aggression. Natalie destroyed Winston's serve and he couldn't really get it to his backhand.
I knew this was going to be a good match when Natalie hit an ace in the first point on a second serve 🤣
Her laugh was gangsta!!
My comfort channel
She really held her nerve, I would have fallen apart if I hit that many double faults. Love her come forward style. Fun to watch. Thanks you guys!
I have been playing so long that I see it as any other mistake. You just have to reset and move on.
I love that frame, going to use it. Thanks!
Thanks for the game. Nice play you both. I love the interview and analysis part.
Good set to watch. Natalie settled down and showed her skill.thx.
Dope vids man. love the tennis content!
You did well, competitive games. A 4.5 guy at my club played a former D1 female player and lost 6-0, 4-0. It ended 4-0 cuz the 4.5 guy suddenly had somewhere to go. 🤷🏻♂️
9.7 UTR translates to 5.5 NTRP so I was expecting the same. Winston put up a good fight. Nice job!
😂😂😂
To the pickleball court?
how Natalie uses her slice as the serve+1 really is so brilliant
Her return of serves got me like Chris Tucker in Friday saying DAYYYYUM!! 😂 Mighty impressive!
wow, a net rusher who has a cannon of a groundstroke - i think i fell in love lol
me too
Interesting match-up of styles. Natalie’s first serve is a definite weak spot; toward the end of the set she began taking some pace off and focused on placement to get it in and get the point started (a wise move). Her court sense is pretty strong. She was hitting behind you effectively and without hesitation. Great ball control whether slicing the backhand or spanking forehand returns off second serves. Really nice instincts at the net, nice technique, great positioning. Great balance. If you had served REALLY big and put her on the defensive, moved it around the box, you would have controlled the center of the court better and it would have been closer. She kept you on the move fairly easily with returns and change-ups. Fun encounter to watch.
Tank is from Lululemon and shorts are from Rhone!
where do the socks come from ? LOL
@@promotry6934 Asics lol
What about your underwear?
What underwear
Where can we get the used gear? Unwashed please.
you have a great channel Winston! I love your videos!
Those 2nd serve aces are fire! That little smirk after the first one...
Well, that was wildly entertaining! Natalie's fundamentals and form is off the chart!
Good going girl!!
@6:36 what a forehand!
I like how she plays off the front foot and always wants to be attacking. Interesting string combo as well - that hybrid certainly was producing a flatter more penetrating trajectory of shot compared to full bed poly.
Natalie has an amazing forehand!. Nice video !
Natalie played so well !!
she can definitely hit hard, what is her speed in serve and forehand, some of those were really flying
her control is so good!
hey Winston, a long time fan here. Just want to say I enjoy watching this channel a lot! I think you are a much better player than when you started this channel. You have made great technical improvement on all your shots, except for your serve, and I think I know what's holding you back. I recommend trying this two change. 1)left arm and right arm reach trophy position together, this would eliminate the "drag" in your serve and reduce serve going out; 2)racket face during trophy position not facing back fence, which it is right now. racket face facing back fence should be a result of your body turning, not just your right arm overstretching. I think these two change should make your serve much more crisp, and with a better serve you will be a solid 5.0 player, which you are not that far from. Just my thoughts, might not work but i think worth a try.
Natalie has a wicked return of serve. Solid.
She takes risks and I love it!!!! 🙌
Natalies demeanor: 💅🏻✨
Natalies game: 🗿💪🏻
Natalie be a part time tennis player and FULL TIME PAINTER. Painting lines with her serves and shots! Geezus, good match Winston! 🎉
Amazing playing Natalie! Insane serve. Insane return of serve. Insane volley pick ups.
Another good one..thanks dude! 👍
uh, kudos to you for keeping the consistency going on the 2nd serve, even tho she tagged them for winners most of the time. I did that to players in college, they double-faulted when they'd see me come in and SLAP! the return for a winner cross court; i did it off of both wings. I mean, i was a few feet behind the service line when I cranked on it; it's funny because Directors and Coaches on RUclips are only just starting to teach the aggressive style of crushing the 2nd serve Natalie is a fun player; plays more like a guy
Natty's got missles, dang. Love her disruptive style. I think she had really good serve placement too. Good stuff as always Du.
Winston… is about to Rock 100k subs on RUclips!!!!!😀😀😀😀‼️‼️‼️‼️
When she laughed at 2:38, I knew this was going to be a tough day for you brother!
Natalie is clearly a great player. Those serves out wide would be tough to get back. Fun player to watch.
That forehand of her's is an absolute wrecking ball holy sh*t 😮
Every few seconds "oh my godd"😭😭
Back in the day (1977), I was playing varsity High school tennis. I was a bit of a freak in that I hardly practiced but had a natural ability to serve and my serves reached nearly 120mph (with a head competition racquet). Unfortunately, the rest of my game wasn’t at that level and my natural laziness prevented me from reaching my potential. Something I regret. Anyway, I was at a group lesson at Tam Tennis Club in north IL burbs and a younger girl was training with her coach on a nearby court. I noticed her coach exchange some words with my HS coach. Her coach, Bob Marimba(sp?), signaled for me to come over. When I did he told the younger girl , “ if you return this kids serve, then you can return just about any serve you’ll face in competition.” Needless to say she quickly started returning everything I had. It was like hitting against a wall. I don’t think I won a volley. Lol I saw that young girl a few years later while watching the finals of Wimbledon. That younger girl was Andrea Yeager. That’s My brush with greatness!
my man Winston you did great, but Natalie's playstyle + big hitter deff nice to watch.
those slap shots were 👌
That serve is looking better and better!
Natalie… helped teaching/coach in our clinics over at Yorba Linda Country Club… super nice lady!!!
She never warmed up her serve and she was still never in trouble. Goes to show that even a good 4.5 level serve is just target practice for someone a level higher. Also, Singaporean?
“Good serve” god you americans got low standards hahahaha
There's a young lady who played D1 playing on the 4.5 ladder in Raleigh and she's 6-0 and none of the matches have been close. and she didn't even play at a big/successful program.
Winston is a good player, and definitely a 4.5, but I wouldn't say he has a good 4.5 serve. Not meant to be a dig at all, but I'd say his serve is the worst part of his game relative to the rest of it. He has really solid groundstrokes
@@pacersfan550 agreed, most serves at 4.5 level are better, and some are really good. With that said, everyone at the 4.5 level has some flaws to their game, and his is clearly the serve, which he can overcome against other 4.5 players but not against higher level players
Monster forehand. Especially on second serve return. Wow!
She has monster serves
Natalie style of play when is on is tough to get a rhythm going. Love o see her play more on the channel.
lookin good, Winston!!!
Winston is all of us.
Love watching her, very cool playstyle.
Sawadee krap. Great watch. Natalie has powerful ground strokes. So many put-aways
Very impressive! She is awesome
Great video. I stood up and clapped literally at 7:40.!
I wish I could return serves like Natalie! 💥
Natalie has sneaky power and pace. Holy Moly....
I'd love to see her play when she was on her game. She was spraying too many shots and too many double faults. But what a great striker when she wasn't going for winners so much. And when her serve was consistent she had so much variety. I was really expecting a lot more net play from her intro. She really just played situational tennis, for the most part. But, man, she's really good and has all the strokes. She pounds everything deep. She made you stay on the baseline unless she wanted to reel you in. She's really good.
You know you’re doing bad when your opponent starts saying supportive phrases to you during the match.
This was low key a great match
What a lovely couple ❤
Winston, your serve + 1 is a liability. You need to work on a bigger kick and MOSTLY better placement on your serve. In addition, you need to work on switching your grip immediately after the serve, finding where you want to stand (not chilling in no man's land) and get in the ready position for the first ball after the serve. SOO many points where you hit a good serve, and just are not ready for the next ball . And you have a lot strengths, but this is important because every point stars with serve + 1 and you gotta be able to hold serve.
On the plus side, your inside out forehand is a beast
She has some great pop on all her shots! She was really off on her serve. So many missed first serves and too many doubles. And she missed so many groundstrokes by a small margin, too. But, she was never really in trouble in the match...
I really like her game, in general!
I serve like Natalie: It's either an ace or double fault
Feel like she’s the first girl I’ve seen on your channel that legit was good and hit flat out winners over and over
First serve seemed to be your only weapon against her, very tough game but well played. Given Natalie's play style, she would benefit a great deal by improving her serve, especially placement and consistency. It almost looks like she doesn't want to play baseline by hitting every shot big, if she had just slightly better serve, she could come to net a lot more easier and win more points at net. Just my 2 cents, great video as always.
Loved your apron themed shirt
Did she play at Fullerton?? I wonder what year she played, we were in the same conference 😊 fun to watch!
Natalie looks like she's really strong, like physically powerful. Interesting risky play style!
Powerful serve and forehand. Excellent player.
I would lose my mind if I heard the ball hit the net that many times on my serve
your last service game was well executed. She is a very good player. Great match.
Great serve, great forehand, excellent volleys! I think she was too relaxed at the start. When she raised the intensity, she was brutal!
I would think Natalie could get over 10.0 with a good coach for that 2nd serve. Collapses to the left and steps around a little too far with the right foot which extenuates it. Some lovely shots though and her slice/style is fun to watch
Winston's backhand is so good now!
I’ve never seen anyone hit the net more than these two
Liked when you started going big on your serves at the end!
I love her backhand slice. Immaculate!
Apart from natalie playing very well....her smile is so beautiful
💥💥💥