Natalie plays a "Go Big or Go Home" style of play. Very impressive forehand power and depth coupled with an excellent net game. Would hate to be her opponent on a day when is totally "on" the whole time. Valiant effort by Winston to compete.
It's what great players do. A 10 UTR is going to capitalize on floaty slower serves like Winston's 2nd. Against a 4.5 it's a point-starter. Against a 5.5 it's cannon fodder.
Anyone see that video going viral of that lady got hit by softie volley and screamed bloody murder cursing the guy and throwing her racquet twice at him. Highly recommend
Wow Natalie has a great slice backhand and slice approach. Very Stefan Edberg like! It's definitely a lost art. Winston is solid but needs to develop a first serve as a weapon. Seems like he always just hits 2 second serves which is ok against 4.5 to 5.0 level, but then its feasting time for returners above that level.
She never warmed up her serve and she was still never in trouble. Goes to show that even a good 4.5 level serve is just target practice for someone a level higher. Also, Singaporean?
There's a young lady who played D1 playing on the 4.5 ladder in Raleigh and she's 6-0 and none of the matches have been close. and she didn't even play at a big/successful program.
@WinstonDu love your content. Hey, I have a great idea for some fresh content. I'm a 4.5 player from Phoenix but I'm MUCH older than you. How about a young 4.5 vs. an old 4.5? I'm in the Phoenix/Scottsdale area but I'm also in OC occasionally. Let me know if you would be up for it. Could make for some great content. PS, I specialize it taking down 4.5 players half my age :) Thanks again for all the vids. Peace.
Winston, you really really need to improve your serve. It's like you've got two second serves and they sit up, asking to be attacked. You're on the defensive in your service games nearly all the time.
She has some great pop on all her shots! She was really off on her serve. So many missed first serves and too many doubles. And she missed so many groundstrokes by a small margin, too. But, she was never really in trouble in the match... I really like her game, in general!
At some point I was like...ditch the second serve man, just go big twice. If you double fault some, so be it. You'll get some in and have a fighting chance at least.
Natalie's only weakness that day was her serve. Everything else was on the money. If her serves were on point, it would have been an 8-0 victory. Very impressed with her killer returns.
A couple observations which echo other people's comments: 1) Winston's 2nd serve: Natalie attacked it and blasted forehands the entire match. The only points Winston won on his 2nd serve were when Natalie went for too much and missed the return. Since Winston's 2nd serve doesn't have enough on it to get to Natalie's backhand, he may have done better taking some off the first serve and getting a higher percentage in, ideally to her backhand side where she just slices it back. This strategy would have allowed Winston to start the point neutral instead of just praying that Natalie misses the return. 2) Matchup Issues: This was a tough one for Winston since he likes to stay at the baseline and grind. Since Natalie likes coming into net or bringing her opponent up to the net, her game highlighted some of Winston's weaknesses (ex: passing shots and volleying). I think Natalie won every single point that had a "cat and mouse" component to it.
Winston, your serve + 1 is a liability. You need to work on a bigger kick and MOSTLY better placement on your serve. In addition, you need to work on switching your grip immediately after the serve, finding where you want to stand (not chilling in no man's land) and get in the ready position for the first ball after the serve. SOO many points where you hit a good serve, and just are not ready for the next ball . And you have a lot strengths, but this is important because every point stars with serve + 1 and you gotta be able to hold serve. On the plus side, your inside out forehand is a beast
Bro, Winston, you have to work in your serve, you should be serving a lot harder, instead of so much kick or slice, try hitting it flatter, that will give you more power, flick your wrist more downward right before contact, you do that Winston and you gameplay will be on a whole new level, ive seen how much you have improved since you started this channel, you are doing great man, #1 thing now, work on your serve, more power!
When Natalie used her hips on her forehand she made every shot, the only time she missed returns is when she didn’t use her hips as much, but this lady has amazing shots and Winston’s second serve was being murdered by this lady! Great playing and amazing performance by Natalie!
she's so fun to watch, especially if she cleans up the consistency a bit. love the return game and how aggressive she plays! Winston definitely feeling the pressure to put in bigger serves towards the end (which lead to some DFs).
great match! if you're in nashville ever would love to play, i'm also a 4.5. i would be very different type of player as i'm a senior director business professional, maybe another angle of "rec players" playing each other?
Oof that second serve of Winston is killing him. Time to learn the slice serve for a low bounce man. Your second serves come with a fork and knife. You are a good player just that serve is just ....
I like how she plays off the front foot and always wants to be attacking. Interesting string combo as well - that hybrid certainly was producing a flatter more penetrating trajectory of shot compared to full bed poly.
Too many unforced errors for a good match, especially you keep hitting into the net. Also your groundstroke target too much into the middle, which she can comfortably blasting the ball to the corners. If i were you I would push it to her backhand, her gameplay seems to rely too much on the forehand power.
She pretty much hits 2 first serves. Very rushed game style. Not much patience. You don't see that often. I always wondered if game style somehow is correlated with one's personality. She's in the ADHD category hahah
I was about to say net rusher or serve volley tennis player's game is tailored for pickleball. If she switches to the dark side, she has the potential to make it to the pro level. But after watching the way she went for broke every shot including second serves and defensive gets, I guess she doesn't have the temperament for the PB short game.
You both made each other look bad compared to when Winston played the pro! Maybe it's playing under lights. Natalie can improve her serve by pushing off the right foot to get the hip rotation and kinetic chain. As it is, she hits from her shoulders, and her hips and feet are left behind (Winston actually does this better). You can see how at the finish of the serve her shoulders are ahead of her hips and feet: the right foot isn't powering the serve at all, so it all comes from the shoulders. That means she can't really get the kick on the second serve. If she turned her front (left) foot parallel to the baseline she'd have to bend her knees and rotate into the serve more.That would yield more spin and power because she'd be going up to the ball: it's like you're placing a lightbulb up there just out of reach, so you have to go up to hit it. For her slice backhand, needs to work on the footwork - turn more and hit through it. Great to watch as ever.
You're just to slow overall.. To slow to react to shots, !! Your serve should have improved by now, but it's still to slow, and why do you get around the bakhand so much ??? it's not like your forehand is that great either!!! Also your voley's and net shots are close to non existent!! I think you should train individually those shot's, to improve your game!! I've been playing for only 3 years, and i've improved a lot compared to you, and i'm much older.... I dont know your training routine, but do you feel happy with your improvements over the last year or 2 ???
Natalie plays a "Go Big or Go Home" style of play. Very impressive forehand power and depth coupled with an excellent net game. Would hate to be her opponent on a day when is totally "on" the whole time. Valiant effort by Winston to compete.
She thrashed your 2nd serve
It's what great players do. A 10 UTR is going to capitalize on floaty slower serves like Winston's 2nd.
Against a 4.5 it's a point-starter. Against a 5.5 it's cannon fodder.
@@mskcouric very true
I'd be intrigued to see her play Amy Zhu, Patsy, Claire (D3)
or other female players you've had on the channel in the past!
Thanks, Winston!
Anyone see that video going viral of that lady got hit by softie volley and screamed bloody murder cursing the guy and throwing her racquet twice at him. Highly recommend
Wow Natalie has a great slice backhand and slice approach. Very Stefan Edberg like! It's definitely a lost art. Winston is solid but needs to develop a first serve as a weapon. Seems like he always just hits 2 second serves which is ok against 4.5 to 5.0 level, but then its feasting time for returners above that level.
Natalie loves to go BIG! That forehand is money! I'm a fan
Tank is from Lululemon and shorts are from Rhone!
where do the socks come from ? LOL
@@promotry6934 Asics lol
What about your underwear?
What underwear
u sure u didnt just play your long lost twin sister...
Thank you for sharing. So great to see a female player serve and volley. Would love to see more players with different styles.
This is a great advert for mixing males and females in sports.
If Natalie cleans up her serves especially double faults she'll tough to beat.
she can definitely hit hard, what is her speed in serve and forehand, some of those were really flying
She never warmed up her serve and she was still never in trouble. Goes to show that even a good 4.5 level serve is just target practice for someone a level higher. Also, Singaporean?
“Good serve” god you americans got low standards hahahaha
There's a young lady who played D1 playing on the 4.5 ladder in Raleigh and she's 6-0 and none of the matches have been close. and she didn't even play at a big/successful program.
She has monster serves
@WinstonDu love your content. Hey, I have a great idea for some fresh content. I'm a 4.5 player from Phoenix but I'm MUCH older than you. How about a young 4.5 vs. an old 4.5? I'm in the Phoenix/Scottsdale area but I'm also in OC occasionally. Let me know if you would be up for it. Could make for some great content. PS, I specialize it taking down 4.5 players half my age :) Thanks again for all the vids. Peace.
WHy you wearing a bib?
Natalie is a BIG hitter. Would love to see her back on the channel someday. Great video as always, mate 💛
This was low key a great match
Winston, you really really need to improve your serve. It's like you've got two second serves and they sit up, asking to be attacked. You're on the defensive in your service games nearly all the time.
She has some great pop on all her shots! She was really off on her serve. So many missed first serves and too many doubles. And she missed so many groundstrokes by a small margin, too. But, she was never really in trouble in the match...
I really like her game, in general!
those slap shots were 👌
My comfort channel
She freaking PUNISHES weak 2nd serves. Love it.
At some point I was like...ditch the second serve man, just go big twice. If you double fault some, so be it. You'll get some in and have a fighting chance at least.
She is my type of style. I want to marry her!
Amazing pop on her shots.
She double faults too much, maybe she was nervous, because this was going to be shown world wide RUclips tennis audience. 🤷🏻♂️
Her return of serves got me like Chris Tucker in Friday saying DAYYYYUM!! 😂 Mighty impressive!
Natalie's only weakness that day was her serve. Everything else was on the money. If her serves were on point, it would have been an 8-0 victory. Very impressed with her killer returns.
A couple observations which echo other people's comments:
1) Winston's 2nd serve: Natalie attacked it and blasted forehands the entire match. The only points Winston won on his 2nd serve were when Natalie went for too much and missed the return. Since Winston's 2nd serve doesn't have enough on it to get to Natalie's backhand, he may have done better taking some off the first serve and getting a higher percentage in, ideally to her backhand side where she just slices it back. This strategy would have allowed Winston to start the point neutral instead of just praying that Natalie misses the return.
2) Matchup Issues: This was a tough one for Winston since he likes to stay at the baseline and grind. Since Natalie likes coming into net or bringing her opponent up to the net, her game highlighted some of Winston's weaknesses (ex: passing shots and volleying). I think Natalie won every single point that had a "cat and mouse" component to it.
Winston, your serve + 1 is a liability. You need to work on a bigger kick and MOSTLY better placement on your serve. In addition, you need to work on switching your grip immediately after the serve, finding where you want to stand (not chilling in no man's land) and get in the ready position for the first ball after the serve. SOO many points where you hit a good serve, and just are not ready for the next ball . And you have a lot strengths, but this is important because every point stars with serve + 1 and you gotta be able to hold serve.
On the plus side, your inside out forehand is a beast
Bro, Winston, you have to work in your serve, you should be serving a lot harder, instead of so much kick or slice, try hitting it flatter, that will give you more power, flick your wrist more downward right before contact, you do that Winston and you gameplay will be on a whole new level, ive seen how much you have improved since you started this channel, you are doing great man, #1 thing now, work on your serve, more power!
When Natalie used her hips on her forehand she made every shot, the only time she missed returns is when she didn’t use her hips as much, but this lady has amazing shots and Winston’s second serve was being murdered by this lady! Great playing and amazing performance by Natalie!
she's so fun to watch, especially if she cleans up the consistency a bit. love the return game and how aggressive she plays! Winston definitely feeling the pressure to put in bigger serves towards the end (which lead to some DFs).
great match! if you're in nashville ever would love to play, i'm also a 4.5. i would be very different type of player as i'm a senior director business professional, maybe another angle of "rec players" playing each other?
Perhaps Natalie should work on an underhand first serve?
I’ll take note we will incorporate it into her practice.
Oof that second serve of Winston is killing him. Time to learn the slice serve for a low bounce man. Your second serves come with a fork and knife. You are a good player just that serve is just ....
I like how she plays off the front foot and always wants to be attacking. Interesting string combo as well - that hybrid certainly was producing a flatter more penetrating trajectory of shot compared to full bed poly.
You know you’re doing bad when your opponent starts saying supportive phrases to you during the match.
Sawadee krap. Great watch. Natalie has powerful ground strokes. So many put-aways
Natalie style of play when is on is tough to get a rhythm going. Love o see her play more on the channel.
Wow. Natalie was just great, sorry Winston. Wish I had that good a forehand (and serve).
Too many unforced errors for a good match, especially you keep hitting into the net. Also your groundstroke target too much into the middle, which she can comfortably blasting the ball to the corners. If i were you I would push it to her backhand, her gameplay seems to rely too much on the forehand power.
She pretty much hits 2 first serves. Very rushed game style. Not much patience. You don't see that often.
I always wondered if game style somehow is correlated with one's personality. She's in the ADHD category hahah
That forehand of her's is an absolute wrecking ball holy sh*t 😮
I recommend not missing first serves against Natalie, jesus h christ!
Powerful serve and forehand. Excellent player.
That shirt looks like a apron 😂
cooking up some content for you
Natalie - put the same right leg power at 9:51 into your right leg during your serve. Killer!
11:32 big return, but would that shot be gettable in the pros? Looks a very hard ball, but just gettable.
your last service game was well executed. She is a very good player. Great match.
Love watching her, very cool playstyle.
Well, that was wildly entertaining! Natalie's fundamentals and form is off the chart!
A Natalie/Amy match would be a good watch
Her accent sounds so familiar 😅😭
What accent is that?
I think it’s Singapore …?
Early RUclips nerves on the serve - once she settled in, it was fine.
Those 2nd serve aces are fire! That little smirk after the first one...
I love her backhand slice. Immaculate!
would be a pleasure to have nat double bagel me, great playing
She made you pay on your second serve. T' d off on it
Natalie has a wicked return of serve. Solid.
Very nice girl! And he plays a lot!
She really held her nerve, I would have fallen apart if I hit that many double faults. Love her come forward style. Fun to watch. Thanks you guys!
I have been playing so long that I see it as any other mistake. You just have to reset and move on.
love her volleys, so pretty just a little flick and off it goes.
Winston's backhand is so good now!
I was about to say net rusher or serve volley tennis player's game is tailored for pickleball. If she switches to the dark side, she has the potential to make it to the pro level. But after watching the way she went for broke every shot including second serves and defensive gets, I guess she doesn't have the temperament for the PB short game.
Her mixed partner here, yeah she won’t hit more than 2 dinks before a speedup. 😂
Liked when you started going big on your serves at the end!
Another good one..thanks dude! 👍
Waiting for the return of Lotti.
Winston, I'm just curious, how often do you practice? What does your practice regimen look like?
a couple hits per week mostly sets sometimes just hitting
Her shots are very powerful . Wow
Winston you should take her out on a date buddy.
pretty sure his girlfriend is the one commentating in the background
What a lovely couple ❤
well played Natalie
she got a rocket
BH is on point winston
her control is so good!
Natalie Du has a ring to it…..👀
I was thinking the same, take her out man! lol
Hammer for a serve.
You both made each other look bad compared to when Winston played the pro! Maybe it's playing under lights.
Natalie can improve her serve by pushing off the right foot to get the hip rotation and kinetic chain. As it is, she hits from her shoulders, and her hips and feet are left behind (Winston actually does this better). You can see how at the finish of the serve her shoulders are ahead of her hips and feet: the right foot isn't powering the serve at all, so it all comes from the shoulders. That means she can't really get the kick on the second serve.
If she turned her front (left) foot parallel to the baseline she'd have to bend her knees and rotate into the serve more.That would yield more spin and power because she'd be going up to the ball: it's like you're placing a lightbulb up there just out of reach, so you have to go up to hit it.
For her slice backhand, needs to work on the footwork - turn more and hit through it.
Great to watch as ever.
5:42 real chance 😢
Questionable fit
hello winston
3:24
Martini Mama
You're just to slow overall.. To slow to react to shots, !! Your serve should have improved by now, but it's still to slow, and why do you get around the bakhand so much ??? it's not like your forehand is that great either!!! Also your voley's and net shots are close to non existent!! I think you should train individually those shot's, to improve your game!! I've been playing for only 3 years, and i've improved a lot compared to you, and i'm much older.... I dont know your training routine, but do you feel happy with your improvements over the last year or 2 ???
i can beat of these . That girl is no way D1 level...3.5 max