We compare different Spined arrows and discuss why the results are not what we expect.
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- Опубликовано: 5 окт 2024
- We compare CA320 Alloy/Carbon barrelled arrows in a 500 to a 3.2 Icepoint 600 spined arrow. We discuss the weights of both arrows, tungsten vs Stainless steel points. We discuss what the theory says will happen but the actual results are different to what we expect.
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Looked to me that the left hand group was *much* tighter and more consistent. Right hand group looked much more scattered. If those are representative groups, I know which I would choose!
back-up to 70 so you can see what is happening, 18 is fine for initial setup but to really get dialed in you should move back.
yeh they will fly like a curveball at 70 :D
I've taken your advice to heart and I've been shooting almost every day. It's hard to believe how much better I'm shooting now.
Thanks Steven.
I feel like what you are seeing could make sense. Heavier points make the spike weaker. In addition, less neck in the arrow also makes it weaker. So you have the 500 spine + heavier weight (more weaken) + short neck (weakens) compared to the 600 spine + lighter point (less weaken) + long neck (strengthen) and they seem to come out about the same. Perhaps the difference in tips is making up for the difference in spine.
Interesting analysis concerning arrow spine. I am not a competitive archer, just a hunter and instinctive daily shooter. Im only shooting 15-25 yards so the wind and time of flight has less effect on my shots. But I have found i shoot better with stiffer arrows when my release is most consistent. However, I seem to get more variance from a less than ideal release with my stiffer spined arrows. My solution has been to shoot every day 60 to 100 arrows. I shoot 45#, 50#, and 55# bows. I shoot better with a heavier draw weight when I'm at my best. The extra tension on my anchor helps me get a cleaner release. No doubt our human contribution to each shot can have the most variable.
Ive shot sights on my recures to help me become a better instinctive shooter. It gave me a better understanding and feel to my cast at distance. One thing I noticed is that with a sight, my rate of release is far more critical. Shooting instinctive I can release a shot much faster and if I shoot daily, my groups are tighter at 15-20 yards than even with a sight.
Arrow stiffness, increased draw weight, and overall arrow weight have been beneficial to me.
There is definately some correlation between the momentum of the arrow and initiation of a shot on an arrow at rest, particularly with spine and stiffness. I'm not a competitive archer. I'm not an engineer. But I am addicted to shooting my recurve bows and shoot best the more I shoot. Fatigue, injury, etc all factor in. The mental aspect is why I enjoy it so much. I got a lot from your video and subscribed. I have great respect for your craft. You compete in a very elite and demanding discipline. Best of luck in your matches!
Lookin' good, Steve.
You have good color and everything else
Love your videos, always informative and entertaining. Thanks for doing such a great job with them.
Maybe this kid is so good , because his mind is clear.
He just shoots ? Just a thought😮
Nice shirt! Stylist and competitive looking!
Hi Steven I used ti shoot ACG and changed to X10s. Couldn't tune them. Now shoot Skylon perform and paragon and they tune perfectly.
I have Easton X23 2315 and Skylon Paragon 400. At full draw weight i couldn't perfectly tune with Skylon arrows, but turned limb bolts 1.5 turns down and now they tune perfectly but i can't tune Easton arrows now...
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Some people change their bow weight to get their arrows to match better.
For some reason, Steven is reluctant to use this method of changing draw weight to get a better tune. It's pretty easy to return to a previous reading if the change doesn't make it better. Just record your starting point, record the amount that you're adding/subtracting draw weight by watching the way the Allen wrench moves (1/4 turn more weight on both limbs, etc.). Most people tune that way, and it's way cheaper and more precise than buying new arrows.
He says it is too much and that he is still building his strength up gradually.
yeh both spines are to weak. Either back off the limbs or go up in spine. Not sure what hes game plan is. Reducing weight in-front can maybe be done but that just ads one more dimension to a already complex puzzle :D
Stephen, can one shoot a traditional bow with a release aid? Or, does that not work because of the arrow rest?
You said you shot better with different arrows on each end. Could it be fatigue, i.e. the first 6 arrows are always better regardless of type?
I think you'll have better results if you have red vanes on your arrows with that bow 😉
Don't joke ~~~~~
mental game is a huge factor and having MATCHING Vanes makes you feel better & shoot more confidently
@@Australian_Made My thinking is that if I can't shoot, at least I'll look good trying
Try some ends at longer distance at 50m and you will start seeing some differences as you pointed out 3:40. At 50m those arrows will all be hitting blue ring 6 points. Just back off your limbs 3-5 lbs and your smack in gold.
Because 320's and X10's have an aluminum core can they bend out of true?
This problem with arrows is what still scares me about recurve archery. Got a Samick takedown bow as a present which got me into archery and now i shoot mostly compound just for fun, but would like to get into olympic recurve as well. My thought process was maybe i just put a whisker biscuit on the recurve to get a perfect center shot so i don't need to bother about arrow spines so much, but i read that this would make the flight worse because it would keep the arrow from bending nicely around the riser. Anyone any thoughts to this?
Whish i would have someone like Steven with an archery shop near me!^^
Whicker biscuit is a decent rest for a beginner compound setup, but terrible for recurve. The action of archer's paradox/bending around the riser is so different between compound and recurve that it will likely be very bad on a fingers/recurve setup.
does FOC on the same arrows make any difference on a recurve ?
Yes its a double edged sword. I get alot more accurate shots if you got light arrow and high arrow-speed. But it also enhances some bad shots. I found 3D target setup working very good at 15% FOC, 260-290 grain arrow. I'm only shooting 50m. But that setup floats away in the wind at 70m when testing. So at long range its better to go with a heavier arrow +350grain and around 10% FOC as Easton tuning guide recommends.
Anyone that says you are hyping a product because you sell it has never watched your videos!
Sounds very impresave
Which serious archer changes arrows two weeks before a tournament?!?🤦♂️
Heavier arrows are usually less forgiving, especially heavy aluminum arrows.
Please do proper tuning! 🙏
Don’t shoot barreled arrows and parallel arrows with the same horizontal plunger setting.
Use bare shafts and fleshed arrows.
Adjust poundage so the bare shafts group with the fletched arrows.
Don’t dig in the dirt like that. That’s a shame to see.