The Insane Politics of the 2023 Mob Vote
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What music did you use for the stop the mob vote part
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No one should vote so that they all get added.if you vote it means you don't love❤❤ mincraft
WHY TF DID ARMADILLO WIN
Fun fact: the mob vote took place the same day as parliamentary elections in Poland, which makes it even more political
Mob vote is Poland?
Yeah and the liberals won that one
same in NZ lol
@@triniemoore9100 I went to vote with some mates and when we got back we started talking about the Minecraft mob vote instead haha
I just wanted pengin :(
I think the mob votes shouldn’t have been animated because it created this false perception that the mobs were basically already developed to the point of being added on a whim. The very first mob vote had the right idea with the concept sketches. They provided enough info to make an informed decision but we’re vague and dull enough to not get too attached
This, this right here.
I can agree with this, people just assume the mobs are already made and to be put in the game and they think Mojang is trashing mobs when in reality just showing the concept.
They are frickin blocks from a ZX spectrum era. Of course they're all already developed! It isn't rocket science!
@@buggerlugz6753 bruh it’s been stated many times by mojang these mobs are CONCEPTS. We’re voting on which CONCEPT gets developed further
@@thunderbro7218and they can’t add all 3 because? They have 600 employees it can’t be that hard
It’s not that they only want three mobs, it’s probably because we will never see them again. The mob vote could work as a priority vote rather than “only one lives and the rest die”. Like add the armadillo first, next year the crab and then the rest. As a Minecraft builder I wanted the crab, I love building in survival but now I know there is no way we will get the crab.
Also, because well, they are animals, basic animals. Now that said animal is in a limbo where there's no guarentee it's going to get added at all in the future under a different name like sand crab or something. Also, it deconfirms the possibility of said mob being added to MC in the respective biome and setting it was supposed to be initially, which in turn means that certain interactions are completely impossible now in a natural spawn setting like, for example. The Moobloom not winning meant that Bees won't be able to interact with them and are stuck with the static flowers unless by some miracle some other mob gets a similar interaction. The Iceologer not winning means an elemental mage of sorts is likely never being added to the Pillager mob type, and also it means that even if they add something like a Fire PIllager in the future, there's never going to be an ice pillager.
They also deconfirm the possibility of sharks despite not being in the mob vote which means that dolphins possibly interacting with them is not happening, also that means there's still no mob that naturally eats fish. A mob that spawns by the tons naturally.
It's connected. If something is not added, connectivity breaks and the game can't do a thing without the player trying to do something first in the first place.
'The mob vote could work as a priority vote rather than “only one lives and the rest die”.'
Pretty sure they have said something like this, that just because it loses doesn't mean it's gone forever.
@@ano_nym name one loser mob that they made…
@@ano_nymBeen one week, have you found a mob vote loser that got added yet?
@@zorgonvoir6896 they added the frog and the boats with chest even tho they lost in the biome vote, which is literally the same
I think that the mob vote would make sense if all three mobs filled the same niche (for example, a mob vote might make sense if there were two alternatives to the warden that filled the same niche, guardian of the ancient city). the options for existing mob votes are far from mutually exclusive, and only cause unnecessary controversy. The mob votes don't need to go away, I think that instead they should be about what mob to fill a niche, not what niche to fill.
As a "liberal anti-voter", I'd gladly take this solution to the continued problems with the mob vote.
This is a perfect idea if they want to keep them at all
Ok but this is the perfect solution. I would like to see “remixed votes”(votes that include rejected mob vote mobs) but yeah.
@@Bowser_jrthat would lead to even more controversy
Good point-@@Vizzy.787
I wasn't even realizing how political this year's mob vote was getting 💀
This and SAG-AFTRA made me realize that a media civil war is on the horizon😅
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You can easily google or type youtube for this information but I'm glad it being more political.
A million dollars company can't make more then 1 mob... think about it
@@TheDragonfridaybillion dollar company
the fact some people will pay others to vote for a mob is pathetoc
The main issue I have is that unchosen mobs get sent to the "idea vault" and are never seen again. There hasn't been a single mob from an old mob vote added. At least with Biome votes we were voting for order, so we knew we'd get the Frog and such anyway because all 3 were 100% going to be added to the game.
Second this. It would be so much more sensible to ask for an order vote instead of a "pick one, the other two will go to the shadow realm" vote.
Like what if two mobs are cool? Why do we only get to like one? What if the next vote all the options are not as good and we get stuck with a subpar mob (cough glowsquid cough) instead of a cooler mob?
They did say the penguin might come back
At this point the “Idea Vault” is just their term for the trash can.
@@Wermatre They said that for all of them
For the most part you're right but it seems like the mob ideas are being transferred to other minecraft games (mc dungeons having the ice wizard). However those other games were pretty much dead on release especially with legends.
my main issue with the mob vote is the huge backlog of content that was revealed years ago that we are still waiting to be added. I think that if they don't have the development time or resources to add all three mobs in the vote, they shouldn't even be revealing them to begin with. people shouldn't be forced to wait years for something you already told them you're going to be adding.
Also, the annual spike in community toxicity isn't nice, either.
Some of the devs have said that they have indeed plenty of resources, the problem lies with Microsoft shooting most ideas down and forcing a slow update schedule. Microsoft lets very few ideas through, and it takes a long time for them to decide on new things.
Exactly. Microsoft WANTS the controversy. Microsoft WANTS people to get mad at the devs. Why? Because creating these controversies causes more media about the game to pop up, and, in their eyes at least, that will mean more people will hear about minecraft and buy it, meaning more money for the shitheads at the top. Its a setup, a ploy, a poker game, by Microsoft and its greedy shareholders, and the entire community was played like a royal flush.@@SpudRusset There is a saying. "Rare is the creature that survives decapitation" Maybe, if we sent all that hate upwards to the executives that DELIBERATELY fabricated a toxic community to profit off the drama, this problem could be solved. Hit the problem at the head, Tell Microsoft that exploiting the devs and community is not going to fly.
it always comes back to it being all microsofts fault, huh?
I think the biggest issue with saying the #stopthemobvote movement is like baseless propaganda is that modders are actually mostly on this movement’s side. an important thing to note is that this mob vote would not be a issue if the vote wasn’t adding mobs that change the dynamic of the game. Like having to decide over a mechanic from another mechanic is literally insanity because that’s like telling someone which quality of life improvement do you want to have? we know how to add both but you can only have one. If the crab, armadillo, and penguin was just purely cosmetic like the parrots, polar bears, and pandas nobody would have any issue with the other 3 being voted out. The penguin for example has no real fighting support because it’s only argument is it’s cute and cuddly (iykyk) but instead Mojang locks game changing features behind a few of these mobs like come on the crab is changing something about this game that has not been changed since damn near the start the hitting and placing distance. Such a huge change should not be hard locked behind a mob. Another thing to note is that we really should stop cutting mojang dev’s slack. Nintendo has less money, treats their employees with much respect, and still crank out consistent fully developed updates where the votes for their add ons (Nintendo direct and smash) are always consistently thought out and thoroughly explored. You see a company like Nintendo do their community much more justice (won’t age well…) with such a lower amount of budget. Mojang is not a indie game company anymore it’s a massive conglomerate game with the biggest backer and biggest community it feels almost as if they are scared to ever try to do anything or take any criticism as if their game is a fragile baby and not a 15 year old fully developed game that will survive mistakes errors and issues. Just my take
I know I’m a little late to this, but I’m not on both sides. Mojang brought this on themselves. It’s all because their lack of communication, they’re in this mess. But the community is also pretty bratty about this. They really made propaganda posters. 😂 They tend to overreact to some things Mojang puts out like some of the EULA. The community is pretty bratty. Still not defending Mojang/Microsoft. They summoned the community in the first place. In order to solve theses in my opinion are 1. Add them all, or 2. Scrap the mob vote. Overall, I understand the community on why they are mad, but they need to calm down.
@@thrusttheconehead5369yeah... i think this is how i feel too. I'm honesty indifferent to what mojang does to the game, i play singleplayer and host small private servers with close friends. I can understand people's frustration but the amount of rage the community harbours just makes me not want to engage with it. I feel like i'd care more what mojang does if there was more space to talk about it that didn't give me a headache.
Modders are not at all on your side. All of the big modders have gone out and said they don't side with you and hate their work being reduced to ammunition to spew hate. Modders have claimed these takes are wrong. Modders that have become devs have said these takes are wrong.
And they sure don't appreciate being called dickriders by people who don't actually care at all about modders.
@@thrusttheconehead5369 On the one hand, sure. Overreacting is bad. On the other hand, Minecraft is something people are passionate about. And being emotional isn't _wrong_ or _invalid._ (Indirectly name-calling them over it isn't being factual or mature, by the way. It's just being a different form of bratty.) And when for year after year Mojang has failed to address any issues that have been brought up and seem to pretend that nothing is wrong with the community... well, little things add up.
People aren't overreacting to the current controversy (EULA aside). They're reacting accordingly to the _continued_ controversy.
Why would modders be against the mod vote? If anything they should support it since it might bring people into mods when their "candidate" loses.
Honestly the most annoying thing is how they tied mechanics that already should’ve been into the game into a vote where we’ll only get one, that is a big reason I am a revolutionist and want all 3.
I always found weird how the 2020 mob vote had an ambiance mob (glow squid), a useful mob (moobloom) and an aggressive mob (iceologer), because people will fight for different reasons. After that I wanted the votes to be between 3 mobs that had similar purposes in the game, but I wasn't expecting them to just come here and announce 3 features people wanted and make us choose only one. Perhaps I treated you too harshly, 2020 mob vote
@@santihjusto Wait, how was the moobloom useful? Also, glow ink is very useful.
@@Lea_D.honey milk
@@Lea_D. It was promised interactions with the bees, so it could probably be used for bees to pollinate them. It definitely wasn't that useful, but it promised something, unlike the iceologer and glow squid
And I agree the glow ink is useful, but what I mean is that nothing was promised for the glow squid when the mob vote happened, so it just seemed like it was going to be an ambiance mob
Ngl even if dream rigged the votes, I'm kinda glad the glow squid won, I always wanted glowing signs that could glow in any color and now we have that
the way jetstarfish completely ignored the penguin through 90% of this video is absolute gold
As someone who voted for the penguin I agree. Absolute gold.
Chill penguin voters: 😎
Yeah, they were sadly the least favored
There’s always one mob nobody gives a shit about
@@savary5050 this year it was the poor penguin
I think the main issue is people miss the rapid fire updates of the past. I get that minecraft development is more complex now (2 separate versions + Corporate oversight), but take a moment to think about it. We went from alpha to release in the under 2 years, and then for the next 12 there's only been 20 updates (supplemental bugfix updates excluded). People miss the days when you could login after a week of not playing and there's a whole new set of blocks / items to play with. On a personal tangent I sometimes fall into this too, I played through the Secret Friday updates, where in the span of 3 months they updated the game 10 whole times. Now were those updates big? No. But did they feel substantial? Absolutely.
I think that even 3 updates per year is good enough if they keep adding this little “major” stuff. Even just a few years ago we got 2 updates per year with quite a lot of stuff. Now we get 1 update with LESS stuff.
This is literally the first time I see this being brought up. Majority of complaints is the quality and communication issues with Mojang, and seeing it's this niche thing is kinda disingenuous
An update per week isn't possible. You're just being entitled
What about the time when mowing actually did bring updates every week?
*mojang
Mojang: let's make 2023 mob vote
Community: let's make propaganda
New Windows 12 feature-vote:
* Implementing video drivers
* Implementing network drivers
* Adding audio support
Choose carefully, we can't add them all
That is a very good comparison!
that is a shit comparison
I vote to add audio support 😂
@@therealtimmyt5247 except that the mobs aren't crucial to the absolute core of the game for it to continue functioning normally. "minecraft update without an armadillo" isn't exactly as important as "computer without a screen"
You're comparing a computer with necessary drivers to a game about mining and crafting. Is this what they call as chronically online?
United We Bargain, Divided We Beg!!!
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Boycot the vote
I feel like this years mob vote featured relatively small mobs that added little quality of life improvements. It is for that reason that so many think they should be added, because they all have something of value to the new update with relatively no consequence. Both that and the fact that both the Crab and Armadillo provide features people have been asking for, for years. If you ask me Wolf armor or at least a wolf buff should’ve been added 4 years ago, as mobs have gotten stronger and more numerous. They don’t need to add all the mobs included in every vote just this one because it is so inconsequential.
Fun fact there are already Turtle scutes they could have used to make the dog armor instead of adding an entire mob only used for making the armor. Or just let us craft the armor at a crafting table with Iron. Why do we need an entire new mob just for the dog armor?
@@morphstarchangeling8024Mojang trying to force “no don’t kill nice mobs you have to breed them now to get items” is so lame and they need to quit it
I didn’t really care which got added, but if I had to pick, Penguins would add some more life to arctic biomes and icebergs, something they are sorely lacking.
I think the flaw with the Mob Vote is how finished the mobs feel. I mean, their designs are pretty much finalized, their concepts and features have been decided, and their personalities have been displayed. They’re so close to being done, all that’s left is to code them into the game. So much work has been put into developing these mobs, it feels wasteful to throw two of them away. I’m not calling Mojang lazy, quite the opposite, they’re putting too much effort into creating two mobs that won’t even be in the game.
Yeah, it dosnt feel like a vote to add 1 mob to the game, it feels like an elimination to remove 2.
@@Shyontheinternet99 Well said my friend
"All that's left"?!
They've made ideas, and artwork sure... but this is just concept art. Nothing concrete has been made. It's like saying a picture of an animal is nearly identical to the actual flesh animal itself.
@@josh___something A lot of behind the scenes work goes into designing a mob. Take the crab for example. It had a lot of thought put into it before we ever saw it. They likely experimented with many colours such as red, orange, yellow, blue, and others before eventually settling upon the unique blue and orange we know today. They also would’ve had to figure out what body plan it should have, whether it should be based on a more traditional crab, or perhaps something like a hermit crab or a coconut crab. They had to figure out what it would do, whether it would be hostile or friendly, and how it would act. Should it be a hostile underwater mob, serving as a threat on the sea floor? Or should it be a beach dwelling friend that can dig up useful items in the sand if bartered with? Or maybe it should be something else entirely? Then they would’ve had to find it’s personality, maybe it should be unaware, or perhaps it should be playful, or maybe something else. They also would’ve needed to find the function for the crab claw, which could’ve been anything from a weapon, a crafting tool, a block, a redstone item, or the extendo-hand it would eventually become. They would’ve had to do all of this several times for the crab, just to ensure that there were no ideas that they liked better, iterating on this concept tons of times to make sure it’s perfect. Then they would’ve had to repeat this process two more times for the Penguin and the Armadillo (and likely more times for mob concepts that didn’t even end up in the vote), only for the Crab and Penguin to go completely unused for the time being. That’s a lot of work put towards designing the mobs that doesn’t make it into the final product. Calling these mobs “not very concrete” isn’t being very honest, as all of the mobs that have won (save for the Phantom) have not changed significantly between their initial reveal and final release. They all look and act exactly how they were said to. Tons of work has been done, and while coding in a mob does also take a lot of work, Mojang still wastes a lot of time and effort making two mobs that won’t ultimately get put into the game.
@@Rat_64 yeah, cause it's a pitch. Sure, there's a lot of work put into it, but if you walked out there with a cube with a face and called it an armadillo, people wouldn't be interested.
They aren’t necessarily being lazy but one could argue that lack of communication is laziness in itself. They definitely have a communication issue with the community and have had a history of such actions in the past. It’s not just this year, it’s been YEARS.
Mostly, the community just trolls wanting a "sex" update because they scare to talk actual women in their area's
@@Shadow_26 Jesse, what the f*** are you talking about
@@mactep1 science, mister White
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No it’s lazy. How can you justify 1 mob a year when there’s games that are constantly adding loads of new content and indie developers with no budget and only their spare time creating way bigger projects.
I think the issue with of the mob vote isn't that the voting itself and us missing out(which is a problem already) is the main problem.
The problem is that Mojang brainstorms up 3 mobs with 3 different concept features and pits them against eachother(Which means that different type of players are pitted against eachother) rather than introducing 3 mobs that has the same feature baked into it, and appearing in different biomes and it's up to the community to vote for which one would be the most appealing to see in the game.
Alternatively, just add in the mobs over the span of when they are developed, I think the whole community could be healthier by just getting more mobs that has features like the crab and armadillo, without it being a competition on which gets added and which concept gets scrapped.
3:04 two tools in a red background... Where have I seen that before?
This is exactly what Mojang wanted, all eyes on them.
Their PR is pretty good
All publicity is good publicity
So all these people were dancing on the palm of their hand this whole time? 🤔
The fact that you people are wasting energy treating something like this so insanely seriously and dedicating so much time to it even making up literally fucking conspiracies when there are real world issues that probably most people here don't even give a shit about is a whole other level of delusion in its own right
Dude, almost everyone in the world knows what Minecraft is, it’s the most played video game. I don’t think they were looking for MORE attention.
Given the sheer amount of things modders have added to the game, its insane that the devs are trickling stuff like this
Yeah. Maybe 3 quality mobs is unrealistic for what we've seen from Mojang, fair. Better that they add one additional quality mob. But they cant just give it to us? They have to string us along for this vote? And then not even make that single one right? Either all of Mojangs money is going into Microsofts furnace, they need more people, or theyre just disorganized as hell, i dont know. But theres a problem here. Both with the company and the devs. And i dont think just saying "hey theyre trying their best, so lets just accept anything they do (or oftentimes DON'T) give us!" Is right at all.
Yeah, this is where I stand on the “lazy” argument. I understand game development is hard but it’s ridiculous that the devs can’t just add all three mobs.
@@Ringingking73 This is where I sit too. Are we really at the point where asking Mojang to add 3 mobs is considered too much?
as an ‘anti-mob vote liberal’, this is where i stand. with how insanely hard many modders work to produce so much cool stuff on such short time and for their own fun half the time, mojang is just lazy or has a bad team, OR are being held back my microsoft, who, need i remind you, owns mojang now. within HOURS of each mob being announced modders had already coded them into the game. now i don’t hate mojang, but i am extremely disappointed in them. i know they’re better than this. this live and update for 1.21 was horrific, you could barely tell what the update was, information was disorganized, and the auto crafter is a HORRIBLE idea that should be left for mods. that kind of automation will create a massive wealth/resource gap in large servers where super grindy and technical people will create massive factories for items while casual players are left in the dust. we already have game-breaking farms for items, we don’t need autocrafting too.
@@rpedersen000 well the thing is that modders dont need to worry as much with bugs or offical stuff, mojang has to make sure all the features are good, mojang also has too many people working at it to coordinate as well. I think that if the community wants a mob alot then mojang can add it in another update after the vote, that way it still gives enough hype for the vote and mc ive (what mojang wants) and also the mobs that the community wants will eventually make it into the game (what the community wants). I would probley stand in 'pro-mobvote liberal' but also I think you guys are taking it too seriously. Also I do think that atleast most mobs should be added eventually .
Honestly on 1 hand I’m glad the Savannas won’t feel as empty, but on the other hand, I really want the game to get a rough approximation of the massive diversity of marine life.
Meaning both crabs & penguins should be in the game.
In other words, just give us all 3 if not more.
Heck I WANT SALPS!
What if the mob vote happens, but every year instead of new mobs, you pick between what mobs that didn’t get chosen before get added again, so they all get added, but there’s still the vote?
Even adding none of the mobs would be better than continuing the mob votes as they are
Hell no. Without mob vote. It would not be interesting. With grace and fortune of having mob vote. This times ob vote is as entertaining as ever 😂.
You people are not getting it. This is peak fanbase community engagement. The fact that how much community engagement is happening. Its healthy sign of healthy fanbase. Its like having good Constitution. 😂
@@timexyemerald6290Hell yes, have more biome votes instead. As this is going rn we’ll just have 5 consecutive mobs from mob votes who are UTTERLY USELESS.
We are the ones who provide them with the means to keep going. We deserve those three mobs. Mobs or bankruptcy!
@@definitely_just_floatingThis is funny how the most useless mobs manage to win every time
@@timexyemerald6290 the community was talking quite a lot about fallout 76, and you wouldnt call that situation healthy, would you
I'd say the biggest issue with the mob vote is that a majority of the community loses every time. That and showing us things that could be in the game and telling us two get sent to the shadow realm for who knows how long is prime real estate for toxicity. I want the mob vote gone and replaced with an even where people send their ideas to Mojang and they pick which ones they want to add into the update. It would also give them an idea on what the community actually wants for future updates too, and they still get the engagement they want without people tearing at each other's throats.
The Sniffer was actually the first one who got a majority of the vote, despite beating the Glow Squid in how disappointing it was
Solely because the other options sucked
@@socialistrepublicofvietnam1500free bonemeal
Altough he could have had more functions...
That is a pretty good point though.
Rarely any one mob will gain 50%+ of all votes, but even then it would only satisfy half of the community instead of say, 70% and up.
@@socialistrepublicofvietnam1500
more disappointing than glowsquid though? Lets not start a war just asking how
> people send their ideas to Mojang
ohboy
how do they pick them? What if there are even just 100k ideas? Do they get a massive amount of work and go through all of them? Or will they be displayed on a public website where people can vote for them?
No way they'd ever do the first.
And the second would be even worse than the current system (spoiler: influencers exist)
okay so how long until someone makes a mod compiling every mob and biome vote and adding them just to spite everyone?
Fun fact: the technological director at mojang got interviewed about the whole minecraft vote thing,
Inside the offices of mojang, he was the only one hoping armadillo won the votes, the rest didn't because the previous winers were or either cute or functional
But the other thing is, that the vote had 3 mobs that were symple and did equal abilities, wich in his own words "the minecraft community felt more divided due to all options being good"
2022 mob vote had a clear winner with 2 obvious loser so no much community split
And when the 2023 came there was no obvious winner, so the communiy split even more,
But in basic words
All the stuff the community was raging about in comments helped them know that the votes were fair more than we want all 3
Good job guys, now the comunity will stay next vote even more divided due to another mob vote whitout a clear winner
If that's their takeaway then they really weren't paying attention. That's not on us.
I'm not reading all that
The main issues with the mob vote is that 2 out of the 3 mobs would get thrown in the trash. Like people been begging for dog armor since 2012 and if armadillo didn't win we would never get one. The same with extended block reach and we most likely will never get it now. It should be "what mob gets added first" aka one of the mobs get added this year and the next one maybe in the next 2 years? That would be fair
You can still easily get all of these features. They just not be tied to mobs anymore. Mob C became the grindstone, and Wandering Traders could give enchanted iron pickaxes in the experimental snapshots. They plan their updates years in advance. They have hundreds of ideas made for every single update. They will not just stop all of that to add three barely developed concepts which future mob votes will cause the backlog to increase even more. You wouldn't be seeing any of these mobs without the vote.
@@plumfadoodle4908And We Wouldn't Know About Them Either, So Would We Really Be Losing Anything Outside Of Some Design Ideas That Some Dev Had At Some Point
@@plumfadoodle4908 The wandering trader example doesn't fill the same role of the rascal as its job was to provide spare pickaxes with out the while caving where wood is hard to find. On one hand its an issue of communication but another is time. Its been five years since the first biome vote and the desert and savanna are still untouched.
Your structure and editing style is genuinely so unique and well made
im really glad i found your channel !!!
It’s great how you were objective in your descriptions and didn’t try to insult or discredit any side
opera gx just casually making a mob vote joke, then a mob vote mockup, then adding all the mobs into the game as a mod to prove mojang's laziness is a peak chad move
The moment i realized the penguin wasn't gonna win was the moment i became a revolutionist.
I hope for the penguin, it’s be nice for the stony shores to get some ambience. Plus they make friends!
@@blorgarmy2605 nah man there is no way
They said in Minecraft live that the penguin might get added later like the frog so it will probably get added eventually
Just a question:
Would dog armor really change anything when the dogs AI is so brokenly bad that they will kill themselves in lava trying to follow you?
no, unless you've bred way too many dogs *no*
Exactly how I feel. I feel people really played themselves this year, and agian voted in the most useless mob.
Unless the armor makes wolfs practicly indestructible (and thus overpowered) wolfs will still not be used in a practical way.
Because lets face it the only senario a wolf whould be usefull is in a scenario where you are in actual perill and if it's dangerous for you it's dangerous for the wolf (wolf armor or not, since I doubt wolf armor is going to be more powerfull than player armor). And the overwhelming majorty of people who use wolfs don't want their precious pupper to get hurt.
I also find it suspious how majong only mentions placing blocks for the crab. They should know full well that if you can only place and not break at a longer distance, the crab becomes practicly useless since no one perfectly places every block. Which means you whould inevitably have to extend your reach with scaffolding or dirt block pillar/stair/bridge anyway so why use the crab.
Feels like sabotage from majong to me. They either lied about only being able to place blocks or didn't think trough how only being able to place from a longer distance whould effect the usefullness of the mob. And thats from someone who wanted pinguin to win.
Peronally I believe the pinguin whould have provided the most use. It whould make early/mid game travel and exploring much faster.
Whould have allowed players to set up trade routes over sea and rivers. (kinda how they used to do in the olden day irl).
And if majong goes through with pushing the villager overhaul on everyone, whouldn't it be nice if there was a faster way to move them and yourself around using boats.
In the end this very much felt rigged. Because lets face it this wan't crab vs pinguin vs armadillo. This was crab vs pinguin vs WOLF.
P.S sorry for the long comment had to get this of my chest.
minecraft ai is too awful for pets to ever be more than decorations, and for them to be a neccessity in combat against mobs with even worse ai
*THATS WHAT IVE BEEN SAYING, THE PROBLEM ISNT THE HP, ITS THE SUICIDAILY IDIOTIC AI*
@@maximusvolt47Bro I feel you, I am a bit salty but lets be honest 80% (from my POV) voted not for the armadillo but for the Wolf armour
Everyone else Battling over the mob vote: ⚠️⚠️🪖🪖😡😡
Me, who is still afraid to admit I've never liked the Copper Golem:
Real
Heresy
Copper golem was okay, but I would never trade it for my pet allay, Ali, whom is locked in the basement.
The solution to mob votes is either scrap them (though i think the mob votes can be good so this would just be the conservatively safe way to play it, taking a lot of community engagement in the process) or make all mob votes like the biome vote, they put design work into all of the mobs already, so make the mob vote about order instead of a choice. Like maybe make it a biyearly thing, then one year you spend designing the concept mobs hosting the mob vote and adding the winner, and the next year you add the other 2. Then people will be way less upset when dog armor or crab claws *aren't ever going to be added* because yes they are, you just gotta wait a little.
They have actual updates to plan that they work on years in advance. They aren't just gonna stop them to add three random pieces of concept art out of the thousands they come up with throughout the years. Doing that would just remove everything they actually planned to do in the updates.
@@plumfadoodle4908 the most recent updates have all been about random trash anyways. It wouldn't be a huge change.
@@shajidrahaman Updates aren't trash just because you don't want to use what they add.
@@plumfadoodle4908 I know. The updates are trash because all of the ideas are half implemented and seem to come out of nowhere. Just look at 1.20
@@shajidrahaman 1.20 was an exploration update and all about self expression. Two things it did well. The other purpose of the update was to introduce mechanics that would be really useful and important for the future. Even the 1.20 had plenty of features full of uses, even the one's that could have more.
I don't even know where to categorize myself on the compass, all I know is I despise the lack of communication from Mojang and Microsoft. If it really takes so long for a feature to get added, why don't they address that openly? Why don't they make an example video about the journey of a feature from the brainstorming phase to the finished product? There are probably a lot of internal delays due to bureaucracy and team management, but even with that in mind, the tempo is still sluggish compared to most other studios. The "cross-platform/bedrock parity" argument sounds more and more like an excuse as they use it with no further elaboration or explanation. If the main bottleneck is pure coding power when it comes to cross-platform development, Microsoft has more than enough resources to hire more coders to offload the uncreative and laborious tasks from the core team. I'm not mad at the dev team, I'm mad at the higher-ups who are either incompetent or unwilling to invest in a larger team.
They need a smaller team is whats up. Larger teams is what making all the production problems. More does not = better. There is too many overlapping shit going on. Unless there is a really good coordinator for these things its really just going to make things harder for people to work. This is not an opinion btw. This is a genuine thing. You can look at studios like EA and other big gaming studios for example
@@speemus6223 No, they just don't have nearly enough developers for how large the company is, how big expectations have gotten for them.
@@ambientNexus my guy, these shitheads hardly do anything in a year, id guess most of the time they spend going back and forwards with bullshit ideas. mojang isnt small, its really big, and REALLY rich, if they wanted to, they could add all three in a couple weeks with no effort, no, mojang is lazy
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I would also argue that compass is kinda dumb, realistically the "conservatives" in this argument are pushing more for workers (mojang devs) rights, which i would argue is more of a leftist opinion. It doesnt really matter because the normal political compass is already kinda shit at explaining things so any discrepancies are probably from that.
Mob votes have done nothing to benefit the game, it's amazing that Mojang even bothered continuing them after 2020's travesty
It generates more Minecraft discussion so...
@@Aktedya1-jt7vw there is a saying "all press is good press" this is exactly what they want they WANT us to do exactly what we did last year,they want us to make a fuss out of it,just this time it pissed off so many people that people created literal war propaganda that this was a bit excessive this year,still definitely dislike the mob vote,wonder what will happen next year?
will the mob vote controversy explode again next year?
well who knows,we'll just have to find out lol.
They don't even add more features to make them useful. Glow Squid is useless? Nah let's just not listen to the community and make it not more useful.
all 3 mobs this year are used for novelty. you dont need a crab arm to reach farther, there is scaffold for that. the wolf armor is useful, if you dont take care of your wolves. i dont even know why you'd go out of your way to even get a wolf if you need armor for it to stay alive. (dumbass) and the penguin shouldn't even be there. i dont think boats going that fast on ice is an intended feature purposefully coded to work like that.
@@pylotheric9777 idk if you need to be on water but i think the Penguins would make faster nether highways or smth
Armadillo and crab and War : arguing so much
Penguin (me) : *Chillin*
3:59 this is litterely the Russian revolution but in a blocky game
Hopefully we won’t have people getting executed by gunfire.
My hot take is that this is as much a community issue as it is a Mojang issue. We shouldn't take the vote so seriously that we're getting emotionally invested and stressed about it. The fact that death threats are being sent suggests people are taking it too seriously.
or people aren't taking death threats as an actual serious thing and just distributing them like it is a MrBeast giveaway
No one would care nearly as much if previous votes weren’t the disasters that they were. The phantom is a debacle no one will soon forget.
@@socialistrepublicofvietnam1500its not serious, like cmon, its the internet, aint nobody got the time to eliminate yo ass, and its meant to represent slurs instead of actual killing
Im exactly in the middle in this thing but still fun to annoy people cos I have info from every pov
@@weirdguylolno, some are absolutely serious and although extremely low it can still happen
Personally, I think it should be a mob vote should not be an elimination polling but which mob is going to be put in the game first for the year. This way people can enjoy all of the mobs even if it takes a while for the update.
That’s actually what it supposedly is. The problem is mojang still haven’t added the losing votes which is something they promised they would do years ago.
Nope. The biome votes are supposed to be all in eventually. Unless I'm mistaken.
@@tumultuousvthe losers of mob vote and i think biome vote get thrown in the idea library
@@orb6013more like wasted potential library.
@@skrrrtsusman3450 You want wasted potential! Still waiting for the Aether dev to cook and for the April fools multi dimensional nether portal to be a permenant feature
This is absolutely beautiful. Thank you
If modders can add functional tanks, complex machines, or the entirety of middle earth I’m sure a multi billion dollar company can figure out how to add 3 mobs at a time.
You keep comparing Mojang with these modders. But if you were to throw in these modders you keep mentioning into Mojang's workforce absolutely nothing will change. The devs are just as capable, if not more than the modders, they just need *approval.*
@@friedwater7500mojang fanboys need to realize that Microsoft doesn't give a fuck what they add as long as they get paid 😂
Mojang is just lazy
Throughout the entire mc live the only thing in chat was #stopthemobvote it was beautiful
I tried to write a version of das einheitsfronflied to talk about how much the community hated the vote. Didn’t finish it but I got decently far
Damn that would've actually made me care about the MC livestreams.
If mojang said what each mob would include, how it work and it’s up and downsides and have us ACTUAL information about the mob instead of small little facts maybe the mob vote would be a little less chaotic edit: why did this get any likes
While that is true, I'm not even sure Mojang themselves know how each mob will work, like, I wouldn't be surprised if they only decided everything after the mob has won
Most mob ended up to be similar to how they were presented .
Really this time it isn't fault of Mojang ,but for the community creating controversy after controversy because they misunderstood something and couldn't handle their mob losing .
@@Dojafishremember the glow squid 😂 nothing like the preview
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The idea of democracy is that after voting, if the one you are supporting doesn't get elected, you don't make a call for arms, you get your things together and get ready for the next election.
If they don't even give the chance for the other mobs to be elected in the next vote, then this defeats the whole point.
@@Dojafisha lot of people were angry that the glowsquid wasn’t a light source like they expected
Bro how tf is there literal propaganda in the same year as 2 wars. What kind of timeline are we in
Issues with the mob vote:
- Features are not clearly stated which has been known to bite fans in the ass before (looks at Glow squid)
- It's a popularity vote and everyone who didn't get picked, gets thrown in the trash
- Biome vote was a way better formula, why tf did they change it???
- There's a conspiracy theory where fans concluded Mojang was subtly swaying the mob vote by giving out more info about mobs they WANT to be added in as opposed to other mobs.
If I could explain to 12 year old me that my favourite game would end up causing a revolution on the internet I don't think he'd ever fucking believe me
Same here dude
This video goes over the basics of the issues with the mob votes on general and the uproar this year, but it doesn’t explain the real reasons as to why the Mob Vote Revolution took off so easily
I’ll try to summarize this but the basics of it are obviously what you’ve said in this video, but also the constant mishandling of Minecraft and it’s updates by Mojang over the last few years, the mob votes *usually* would have worthless mobs and would still divide the community, and after that, there was NO GUARANTEE that the previous mobs would get added later, leaving 2 thirds of fanbase disappointed. This year, all of the mobs were good, meaning that EVERYONE was going to be disappointed no matter what mob won the vote, then on top of that the past few updates have been generally disappointing or not really adding much to the game. As well as everything I've said previously, both versions of the game have numerous and notorious issues that plague them that Mojang has still yet to fix even when they’ve been in the game for YEARS.
I tried to keep that as brief as I could but there are so many issues that led to the situation this year that it’s hard to contain it into a few sentences
Edit: Spelling/ grammar errors
There are some bugs Mojang just outright stated they will never fix. Especially on bedrock.
Bro why are you writing a thesis abstract for a 7 minutes long video 💀💀💀
@@cosmicslime1496 ok
@@cosmicslime1496 what kind of question is that? It’s cuz he’s allowed to.
Who said he’s not allowed to say what he wants? It doesn’t matter how long his comment or the video is
@@cosmicslime1496 My lord, I'm surprised you can read that much text tbh. You sound like the type who can only handle wordless picture books
This video is hilarious, I love your editing style and sense of humor! Subscribed
The Twitter reply at 0:43 had me in tears lmao, great video im absolutely subbing rn
The frantic pace and creative editing of this video have won my heart! I look forward to watching your bright future!
Yeah Mojang REALLY needs to do something about this. They've been _struggling_ in popularity, and the mob votes are a cesspool of controversy adding gasoline to the housefire that is Mojang's public image.
...As a fan of a lot more games than just minecraft, the mob vote isn't tarnishing MOJANG's public image, it's tarnishing the community's public image. Going on social medias to make death threats to people who happen to like a different cute animal than you doesn't make me think less of the company.
Minecraft isn't struggling remotely on popularity, it's consistently been on the top 50 most watched categories on twitch. There are much worse things happening in gaming(cough unity cough) with much shittier corporations that actively hurt consumers more tangibly. People tearing at each other for an armadillo isn't anywhere near the level of bullshit.
@@josh___something Okay fair enough... but when I say "public image" I mean how the Minecraft community sees them. Your own fanbase (you know, the ones who give you money for your product) is kinda the most important people to try to impress, second only to shareholders. It doesn't matter if everyone on the outside looking in sees them as perfectly fine, but if your own fanbase is angry with you that's not good.
I myself don't hate Mojang, I think people are treating them too harshly (the developers in particular... they aren't lazy in the slightest, then a large portion of the fanbase treats them as such). But yes, most of the fanbase are mad because they've been doing mob votes and the past few updates have been lackluster in their eyes. Add the chat reporting, account migrations, and guideline changes, and its obvious to see why people are upset.
This is why i never got on twitter 💀💀
I'm new to this channel and this is so entertaining and such a good summary- new sub earned!
The fact people thought they had a chance at stopping the vote is ridiculous. We protested player reporting, but as you can see, it still happened.
That what they want you to think, if they dont react it causes the people to faulter.
The only way to protest is to not play 1.19 minecraft but you end up removing yourself from the discussion usually.
A man can pretend he isnt dying intill he is dead.
Why did we need to protest player reporting? Besides circumventing local moderation, I don't see why it's such a horrible feature, unless that was your only reason.
I find it more humorous because the vote was already in motion. They plan out the livestream for more than likely weeks, possibly even before the mobs are released. Thinking that trending on twitter will make them just shut down the whole thing unplanned is just silly.
1. That was Microsoft adding that rule
2. Ways to circumvent it were found on major servers so literally only realms would be affected
3. The mob vote is an explicitly community-based event
it's about sending a message.
The fact that you think we think that they will just stop the stream and quit the mob vote is ridiculous. We want to send a message to Mojang so that they think about what they have caused in the community. There will always be people that are sad afterwards because the mob they liked the most and wanted it in the game the most didn‘t make it and is scratched forever. They just need to stop this bs event and add something they think works so no one gets upset.
I'm a developer working on my own game, and the people who say that mojang is not lazy are very wrong. Is it hard to make a game? Yes. Is it hard to add all of these mobs? No. First they get payed to add these mobs, Second the devs have way more experiance than any modder out there, and a day after the crab was announced, a modder added it to the game. These are profesionals we are talking about. You might say it's hard to make ideas, greenlight that, and I can say that is bullshit. That is LITERALLY the easiest part of making a GAME in general, so therefore there is no reason what so ever on why they can't add all three mobs.
aren't bug fixing and optimisation the hardest parts of making a game?
@@KalashDaCat bug fixing is the hardest part of making the game, but optimisation is different, there are 2 different types of optimisation: in game and dev optimisarion. In game optimisation is simple, you can make the model to look like it has more polygons than it is, you can make it so when you're further away from something the texture quallity gets lowered, when you're far away from something, it unloads and ect. In game opt is like adding new features, but dev opt is comepletely different. It works like this, for example: You have 3 scripts, one is for player movement, one is for terrain generation and the 3rd one is for water physics, that is optimised, what isn't optimised is if you had parts of the water script in the generation script, which isn't optimised.
@@DanielAntovski Thx for the info. Btw Mojang should really focus on optimising their game instead of adding new shit. How is it that i can run Battlefield 1 without any problems but Minecraft is a laggy 15 fps mess. I need to use optimisation mods or else it's unplayable.
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The person that originally made these is actually one of my friends on Discord, and the most hilarious thing about them?
He wasn't actually trying to start a movement, he just made them for the hell of it.
3:00 Hahah. Lol, did not hope to hear "Oj Marichko Chicheri" here
#STOPTHEMOBVOTE
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United we bargain, divided we beg
REVOLUTION
Okay but it blows my minds that humans with 100+ IQ would vote for dog armour instead of a tool to make building easier
Hear me out: we change the mob vote to be what mob is added first in the update, and the other mobs are added in the consecutive next updates. The mob vote remains with a winner, but all three still get added.
Why the hell isn't this further up? It's literally one of the most elegant solutions to the problem possible.
@@darkbeetlebot because the best solutions get mostly never picked up.
What happens when they have a mob in the mob vote that most people are *VEHEMENTLY* against being added to the game. The vote isn't just "This is the mob I want", it's "What I DON'T want"
I knew the community was gonna tear it's self apart, but not to this extent, holy shit💀
I don’t think it dividing them but unifying them against mojang since it felt everyone want the mob vote to end
@@waffle6376 well there are people who still want the mob vote: the devs and the modders, as shown on videos.
@@vanillabarrel7886 The devs are part of the problem so their stance is obvious, I have yet to see which modders are taking the opposite side but I wouldn't be shocked if their voice is being inflated for the sake of propaganda. No reason for Mojang to not add all three.
@@kitadams2099 true.
Honestly, I'm surprised Roblox hasn't seen this kind of thing
Probably because the corporation is so widely disliked that it isn't community vs itself, it is community vs corporation
this is a really good video! well paced, funny and well edited
I just think it's interesting that in a fictional setting we still saw all the issues that comes with propaganda regarding elections
RIP the penguin one last "noot noot"
I’m here to comment that you used a Ukrainian song when explaining the accusations between the crab and armadillo fans. As a Ukrainian, thank you for using the song, its an immediate mood booster, love ur videos
much love my friend, if you’re in ukraine rn stay safe bro
@@jetstarfish thank you 🤍🤍🤍 watching your videos are a great distraction from all the stress :))
@@silent_tea Do you know what song this is?
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These are sane people.
They know Mojang's job isn't easy.
They know coding games takes skill.
They know that making multiple mobs isn't easy.
They know that it takes a lot of time.
People keep using the excuse 'Mojang is such a huge and had millions of dollars'
or
'If modders can make them in a day, then why can't Mojang?'
MONEY DOESN'T EFFECT ANYTHING AND MAKE YOU GOOD AT CREATING GAMES.
AND.ITS.MODS.
Mods are not 100% completed.
They aren't fully coded,
They have bugs,
Their functions to the game aren't fully build out, etc.
If you think making mobs is sooooo easy,
THEN TRY IT YOURSELF.
Go make 10 or 20 mobs with absolute perfection and tell me how fast and easy it was.
crab had no chance after kreek voted the armadillo with the wheel of fate@@jetstarfish
Mob voting aside holy shit I absolutely ADORE your editing ❤
I don't play minecraft that much, but I have an idea. What if you keep the mob vote, but instead of making it whether what gets added to the game, and make it determine which mob gets added first. It takes a longer time to do so for the developers, but eventually, everyone can get the mob they wanted.
I think the only way to slow this down (since this'll happen again if the mob vote next year) is to add 1 of the mobs that lost in the previews years so the community knows beyond a shadow of a doubt that they'll be added at some point
they already did that with the frog and Vu Bui said (meaning official Mojang communication) that the frog didn't win either, but is in the game now
@@austi7567the frog was part of the biome vote (from forever ago) and mojang promised they would add all the biome improvement options eventually. Mojang hasn't promised they will add all the mobs from the mob votes
@@austi7567biome vote isn't the same as mob vote for Mojang. That why people like it more than mob vote.
@@blackmage1276 I agree. Vu Bui was probably talking about the Ideas Library, to say that the penguin wasn't lost forever
@@blackmage1276 the frog being added doesn’t mean the other mobs aren’t lost forever, but Vu’s comment about the frog losing and still being added suggests that they do plan on adding losing mobs to the game.
The production quality on this video is amazing! keep up the good work and you'll blow up soon.
god your editing is so beautiful
Bro thought I wouldn’t notice caravan from whiplash playing in the background
FIGHT FOR THREE UNTIL THEY ARE FREE
This channel is probably one of my favorite channels of all time, It’s sad how underrated you are
This is like politics in an anarchical society.
You using whiplash music was so funny to me lol (and caravan)
Honestly... this is a weird time to be a minecraft fan. Especially as a person who tries to see things on the positive side instead of negative.
I still love this game. But with how much I have felt like i've doomscrolled throughout the past few days and weeks... I just want this to blow over. In any shape or form.
This hasn't made anyone who's invested happy, and I just want to hope Mojang jears the cries and... does something serious about all of it.
Probably one of the driving reasons that people are against the mobvote in general is that no matter what happens, there is almost always going to be a majority of players that don't get what they voted for. Probably the best way they could solve this would be to just have 2 mobs rather than 3 in the mobvote. It would help with things twofold in that, the mob chosen is *actually* chosen by community majority and people wouldn't feel that as much content would be lost otherwise.
Or how about let us vote for 3 mins and have the s cons most voted added in the next update as well as the third
the editing on this video is really cool
I don't even play Minecraft with any kind of regularity but this is madness and I love it
This guy's content is great. The only thing holding him back is his upload speed. If he managed to figure out how to upload more he'd pop off.
on it
Ro he read your comment
Best way for him to achieve that is prohibit him from getting outside. All his essentials needs are delivered to his home. So then he can only focus on his videos! Big win right? 😎
@@Xerkies holy shit... you're a genuis
I love the humor and the music of this!! Everything goes so well together in narrating and simplifying a huge grand story!!
just a friendly reminder that they still havent added any losers, which includes a reskinned cow of which the skin has already been designed.
I've been so out of touch with minecraft and the internet as a whole that i didn't even know there was a mobvote untill like the day of voting or last day? im not 100% sure
I kind of love how crazy it’s gotten this year😂
Me too
same
Same, it's fantastic!
The controversy gets crazier with each mob vote.
It’s just cringe. Everyone in chat spamming #sToPtHeMoBvOtE
Imagine if we had a Theme Vote instead. We could choose the very theme of the next update (Fantasy Update, Sci-fi Update, Nature Update, Supernatural Update, etc.)
minecraft already has its distinct theme i dont think they would add sci fi or supernatural themed updates
@@hxwwmaybe it could be a vote for the next year's update so if Minecraft live was for 1.22 then we could vote for the theme of 1.23
Exactly! I have been saying this on a lot of other videos. I think mob votes should be for groups of mobs, each group contains an ambient, a hostile, and a passive mob so that different groups of players benefit regardless of which group of mobs benefit.
Additionally, I think it is important to distance features from the mob vote, and have features added to the winning mobs afterwards.
Imagine the backlash from that
I think the immediate issue with the mob vote has always been having more then two choices. No matter who wins everyone who didn't vote for that mob is in the 2/3rds-ish of players who didn't vote for the winner, meaning the majority is always people who saw what you said you were going to add, said I don't want it and you still added it anyways because a little more then 1/3 of people said they wanted it, that is inherently asking for controversy!
*_Drinks Liquid, and Sighs_* Ah, Internet at it's finest!
id like to mention how good this video is
from the thumbnail to the editing even to how well explained everything is makes this very enjoyable to watch
im not usually one to praise someone in the comments but fairplay, brother.
And in the end armadillo is the one which is going to make even bigger chaos in minecraft community
One arguement I have that isn't mentioned in this video is with the creativity. To be honest at this point adding irl animals as mobs should be left for the update itself and mojang should up their game with actually coming up with creative mob ideas and functions
The one thing with the mob votes that i despise is that the very first one was "losers get killed and never seen again lol", all the other losers to the mob votes CAN eventually come back, but we will never see the big blaze or kraken thing because of the phantom, even if Mojang themselves doesnt want to go back on their word, they could just ask the community "would you like to see the 3 other mobs from the first mob vote to have a chance again?"😊
im gonna go to politics club in school and bring this video up
Dude has me crying in laughter within the first 30 seconds, well done.
interesting & entertaining video Star, keep up the quality content! :)
as a person who has just started game dev i can confirm that making new ideas and applying it to the game is not only a pain but we also have to look at each players pov (dont even ask me how do i know this)