KILLERS OF THE FLOWER MOON | Film Threat Reviews

Поделиться
HTML-код
  • Опубликовано: 6 окт 2024
  • Chris Gore and Alan Ng review “Killers of the Flower Moon,” now playing in theaters.
    Join us on the Film Threat Livecast every Friday at 9AM PST for film reviews, interviews and a chance to join the conversation about movies and all things pop culture!
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------
    #SupportIndieFilm #FilmThreat
    ALL THE LINKS!
    linktr.ee/film...
    Shop Film Threat t-shirts, mugs, merch and more:
    shop.filmthrea...
    SUBSCRIBE: bit.ly/2vlR9zl
    Film Threat on iTunes: apple.co/2LqWm1V
    Film Threat on Soundcloud: bit.ly/2LqjSMk
    Film Threat on Spotify: spoti.fi/2LBBjtM
    Produced by Chris Gore, Alan Ng, Glenn Brown and Ms Piccoffee
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------
    Get new movie reviews, interviews and news daily on our website.
    filmthreat.com/

Комментарии • 188

  • @zmanthemercenary5378
    @zmanthemercenary5378 11 месяцев назад +61

    “I don’t care about white guilt, that’s not going to work on me…” - that’s the reason why I’m a fan of this channel.

    • @JERSEYBOYPLAY2HARD
      @JERSEYBOYPLAY2HARD 11 месяцев назад +1

      Lol white guilt ?

    • @JCAntarex
      @JCAntarex 11 месяцев назад +3

      Hahahaha of course that's an issue for Chris, if anything is predictable, is his stance on this stuff.

    • @MrFiddleedee
      @MrFiddleedee 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@JCAntarexhe said it wasnt tho. Idiot

    • @tallerwarrior1256
      @tallerwarrior1256 11 месяцев назад +1

      The point isn’t about feeling guilty it’s about learning an aspect of American history that is quickly passed over or isn’t told well. This story has never been told before outside of Osage circles even though it’s extremely important since it gave birth to the FBI and was a highlight of the exploitation and unseen injustices inflicted upon displaced Native American communities across the United States.

  • @ziguardo
    @ziguardo 11 месяцев назад +53

    After DiCaprio finished filming he flew around the globe on a private jet to lecture people on their carbon footprint.

  • @CyberChud2077
    @CyberChud2077 11 месяцев назад +13

    The marketing and Scorsese himself have done their best to talk me out of seeing this movie.

  • @Ranger7Studios
    @Ranger7Studios 11 месяцев назад +59

    The best thing about this movie was when the mom was getting sick and I could hear Shake It Off by Taylor Swift from the theater next door. Lol. Fml. :/

  • @MrFiddleedee
    @MrFiddleedee 11 месяцев назад +9

    Agree with Alan, the main theme of "white man bad, white man colonize" got tiring quickly.

  • @UglyFaceOnAStick-iz8bt
    @UglyFaceOnAStick-iz8bt 11 месяцев назад +24

    I like the part where Elizabeth's Warren comes out on horseback and feathers and says "I don't care what the taught you in school......". That was a moment.

  • @ChadSlobodan
    @ChadSlobodan 11 месяцев назад +28

    100 percent agree with Alan. Loved the acting, cinematography, directing and story was very interesting, but at that 2 hour mark... wow. I was ready to leave. I looked at my watch and it was game over. I started to check out and wasn't engaged in the film anymore. Really couldn't tell you what happened after that 2 hour mark.

  • @jefflang4029
    @jefflang4029 11 месяцев назад +11

    Just got back from seeing this movie and I completely agree with Alan. Great cinematography, acting, script and casting but that's where it ends. The movie is at least 45 mins too long and felt extremely flat. There was absolutely no climax to this movie at all. I guess this is because it's a true story but other true movies such as Schindler's List still managed to remain dramatic. This is one movie that I will never watch again.

  • @Brandon-tk2rw
    @Brandon-tk2rw 11 месяцев назад +8

    there's a reason Tarantino thinks directors age out of high level directing pretty early

  • @sulijoo
    @sulijoo 11 месяцев назад +14

    So Chris recommends this movie because...so many other films have been shit lately. That's no reason to see a movie.

  • @rickdeckardbladerunner2049
    @rickdeckardbladerunner2049 11 месяцев назад +19

    Spielberg= good men doing amazing things
    Scorcese = bad men doing terrible things
    I prefer Spielberg as his films are more rewatchable. Ive never rewatched a Scorcese film, but enjoy his artistic expression.

    • @voodoochile333
      @voodoochile333 11 месяцев назад +6

      So you've never rewatched goodfellas?

    • @ankitkamal6716
      @ankitkamal6716 11 месяцев назад +3

      ​@voodoochile333 Good point. Probably the most rewatchable film of all time!

    • @rickdeckardbladerunner2049
      @rickdeckardbladerunner2049 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@voodoochile333yes, that's the exception.

    • @jamalbryant8099
      @jamalbryant8099 11 месяцев назад +3

      @@voodoochile333 goodfellas, casino, wolf of Wall Street, the departed are more rewatchable to me

    • @jessebbedwell
      @jessebbedwell 11 месяцев назад +2

      Spielberg movies are about who we'd hope to be. Scorsese movies are about how we really are.

  • @Wired4Life2
    @Wired4Life2 11 месяцев назад +6

    The twist that _The Irishman_ provides is Scorsese's depressing epilogue to the gangster lifestyle.

  • @johnlopez9014
    @johnlopez9014 11 месяцев назад +20

    I like the Osage portrayal. They were victims but at the same time they are these successful people, where their community n the whole town in general grew. And their clothing looks amazing. A combination of their culture and the white. They were not portrayed as super down their luck, weak natives with skinny horses. They were usin cars n chauffeurs… it’s something that history class doesn’t talk about

  • @deezee2965
    @deezee2965 11 месяцев назад +32

    Martin Scorsese is the only 70's director who never stopped making 70's movies.
    Their tone is always raw and never hold back their punches.
    Wee need more films like his especialy in this day and age with movie beeing more and more homogenized.

  • @nightprowler1
    @nightprowler1 11 месяцев назад +18

    This should've been a mini series on hbo.

  • @calloway1972
    @calloway1972 11 месяцев назад +4

    The length kills an otherwise good movie. My friends thought the movie should have opened with the courtroom scene and told the story w/ flashbacks .. cutting 90 minutes in the process.

  • @ACatelliBrother
    @ACatelliBrother 11 месяцев назад +14

    I can’t wait to see it , my whole family is going to see it , my father in law is an extra in a bunch of scenes lol

  • @AnimationVault
    @AnimationVault 11 месяцев назад +5

    Alan's best review to date. Both of them make good points.

  • @YY-mi9rf
    @YY-mi9rf 11 месяцев назад +4

    I totally agree with everything Alan said. If anything, as Chris admitted himself, being a Scorsese simp tototally made his experience biased.

  • @alexpollock6932
    @alexpollock6932 11 месяцев назад +5

    I really liked Brendan Fraser in this movie. He’s not in a lot of it but I really liked his performance

  • @mksolid82
    @mksolid82 11 месяцев назад +16

    Alan was expecting “Last of The Mohicans 2: Oil Country” He wanted to be completely blown away. 😂

    • @FilmThreat
      @FilmThreat  11 месяцев назад +8

      At three and a half hours...yes. Is that too much to ask?

    • @mksolid82
      @mksolid82 11 месяцев назад +3

      @@FilmThreat lol thanks for putting up with all my jokes Alan. 😂

  • @Kwolfx
    @Kwolfx 11 месяцев назад +14

    Mean Streets was 1:52 minutes long. Taxi Driver and Raging Bull clock in at 1:56 and 2:09. Goodfellas was 2:29. That is about my limit. The Irishman and KoFN are about 3.5 hours. With that kind of run time, I can watch them on Prime in two or three 1 hour plus chunks. I think movies this long don't help the theater business.

    • @JohnCaccio
      @JohnCaccio 11 месяцев назад

      Yeah, most 3 hour plus movies don't work that well, some do, but most don't. I have seen movies that have been under 1 and half hours that have been too long btw lol

    • @donkeysaurusrex7881
      @donkeysaurusrex7881 11 месяцев назад

      This movie will probably only be on Apple TV

    • @bcdside
      @bcdside 11 месяцев назад +4

      I don’t mind long movies, so long as they have an intermission. They need to bring back intermissions to movies.

    • @Kwolfx
      @Kwolfx 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@bcdside Good point.

    • @pl33
      @pl33 11 месяцев назад +2

      well said..I'll watch it at home

  • @stevengilley5107
    @stevengilley5107 11 месяцев назад +3

    I work at a movie theater it sure feels like 3 and 1/2 hours when you're on the other side of the door lol

  • @drgordo112
    @drgordo112 11 месяцев назад +5

    I liked the film, but was surprised by NO post-credit scene!

    • @MrMortombachman
      @MrMortombachman 11 месяцев назад +1

      At least half the audience stayed through the credits...

    • @drgordo112
      @drgordo112 11 месяцев назад

      @@MrMortombachman They may have fallen asleep! lol

  • @BushmasterH
    @BushmasterH 11 месяцев назад +2

    07:28 thats like saying you didnt like the titanic because you know how it ends. By that logic whats the point in watching novel adaptations or nepoleon for that matter

  • @soulcraft_84
    @soulcraft_84 11 месяцев назад +17

    That is how I felt about The Irishman … too long, no twist, plays out exactly how you think it will.

  • @Bow-to-the-absurd
    @Bow-to-the-absurd 11 месяцев назад +4

    Looks like a typical Oscar try hard

  • @BenHeckHacks
    @BenHeckHacks 11 месяцев назад +2

    Movie lengths are keeping me out of the theater. This is all thanks to digital projection removing the financial penalty of going over 2 hours (6 reels 2 cans)

  • @nostalgiafordays
    @nostalgiafordays 11 месяцев назад +2

    By the time it got to the court scenes I had to take my wallet out of my back pocket because I was getting sore. Otherwise it didn't feel very long to me. I wasn't waiting for it to be over.

  • @HappyTeeth.
    @HappyTeeth. 11 месяцев назад +2

    It was a bit too long. Thought to myself during the screening that I would rather be watching Oppenheimer for the 6th time or any of the LOTR extended cuts.

  • @genxtasy9914
    @genxtasy9914 11 месяцев назад +9

    I didn't take a washroom break either which is rare I think cause the movie was really engaging. Great movie.

    • @Clone42
      @Clone42 11 месяцев назад

      I just went right there in the theatre. I think the expression is, "glued to my seat," but I immediately regretted not being, "on the edge of my seat."

  • @rfern263
    @rfern263 11 месяцев назад +3

    The Osage didn’t “strike oil”. Each member of the tribe at the time who registered (2229) were provided individual monthly payments for the mineral rights on the land where the Osage were relocated by the government. These payments, known as headrights, were to be passed on to descendants as long as oil or other minerals of value were extracted from the land. This led to the Osage becoming extremely wealthy as companies bid for drilling rights and produced oil. Dozens of murders were committed by various jealous plotters who schemed to gain title to the headrights. Not all the murders were solved, and many perpetrators got away with it. As for the predictability of the film, since it is a true story it is what it is. You can’t get “more” out of the story unless you make it up. The book is presented as a who-done-it and tells the story from the pov of the federal agents, but the movie tells the story from the pov of some of some of the murderers.

    • @user61920
      @user61920 10 месяцев назад

      This is a silly take, "it's a true story so you have to make things up?" You think every detail in this movie is accurate? Lmao I'm sure a lot of the interactions were "made up" in the film, there's a lot of liberty one can take. I would much rather have made up plot points that add complexity than a dreadfully long mini series without an intermission and, that's right, it was very predictable lol.

    • @rfern263
      @rfern263 10 месяцев назад

      @@user61920 you clearly missed the point.

  • @mrgraham5521
    @mrgraham5521 11 месяцев назад +5

    This movie is based on a true story. How is it bad that it is predictable? Sure, aliens landing and taking over in the third act would have been entertaining, just not really accurate.

  • @RobinMasters007
    @RobinMasters007 11 месяцев назад +2

    While the subject of the movie is interesting, its treatment is more televisual than cinematographic, despite a fine reconstruction and a prestigious cast. Although there are a few sparkling moments - notably the sequences between Ernest and Mollie - in the end, "Killers of the Flower Moon" struggles to reach the very high level it always seems to aspire to, that of an ample political and intimate tragedy.
    On the other hand, Chris and Alan had recently talked about contemporary films lasting too long. Scorsese's film falls into this category.

  • @Ranger7Studios
    @Ranger7Studios 11 месяцев назад +12

    I agree with Allen 100%.

  • @AlanAvis
    @AlanAvis 11 месяцев назад +2

    I thought it was ok. I was never riveted or on the edge of my seat. It desperately needed to be 2 hours long.

  • @gokhanersan8561
    @gokhanersan8561 11 месяцев назад +1

    I was ahead of the story when the trailer rolled.

  • @rcanderson4328
    @rcanderson4328 11 месяцев назад +4

    I have a rough idea of the story. I saw the trailer and didn’t seem like something I’d care to see. Scorsese is great and all, but it just doesn’t have that thing that peaks my interest.

  • @tjenahoj
    @tjenahoj 11 месяцев назад +1

    I notice Chris said he did not go to the bathroom. However nothing was mentioned about astronaut diapers!

  • @donkeysaurusrex7881
    @donkeysaurusrex7881 11 месяцев назад +2

    Book was much better than the movie. Movie would have been improved by telling the mystery as a mystery like the book did, and that “twist” Alan wanted would have been present as it is in the book in that about halfway through the book we discover Ernest who has been nothing more than a loving husband up to that point has been in the thick of everything since the beginning whereas in the movie all the main conspirators are revealed like 15 minutes in (save Ernest’s brother who’s mostly left out of the movie despite being the main suspect off and on throughout the book).
    Overall it is watchable, but it could have been much better.

  • @clydeallen738
    @clydeallen738 8 месяцев назад

    i saw this movie tonight. I agree with Chris… great movie … loved it!!!

  • @jasencee3884
    @jasencee3884 11 месяцев назад

    [Martin Scorsese] "It's like the TV show ''Dallas" but with Native Americans. Native Americans are hot right now in New York and Soho. I'm basically channeling Marlon Brando here..."

  • @darthdurkelthewise320
    @darthdurkelthewise320 10 месяцев назад

    Coming in a month after this review I agree with both of you. Scorsese is a master of his craft. Every main character performance is absolutely stellar.
    To me, this was a very sad movie though. Furthermore, I’d agree with at least one comment that this would have made a great miniseries for Apple TV+.
    I would have liked to see more between Molly and Earnest. More with Anna and Molly and their Mother. More happy moments to give us more to see and chew on other than the repeating cycle of plan then death…We have so many people in this cast too.
    They’re not hard to keep up with due to fantastic direction and editing but I feel like a miniseries platform would have given us more drama and satisfaction in the end.
    I agree w/Allen that it felt very predictable too.
    Once we go through the plotting and killing a couple of times you could see it from a mile away.
    I don’t know, I came away feeling conflicted on this movie.
    The actress that played Molly though and Leo were just great. The rest of that Osage cast just needed more time. Great job with the performances all around!

  • @claraelizabeth
    @claraelizabeth 11 месяцев назад +2

    I’m not going to bother with a 3.5 hour run time. I have a full time job and a tight weekend schedule with my family. 3 hours is where I draw the line. I had to stretch myself so thin to even watch John Wick 4 and Oppenheimer. I’m not doing it again, although I thoroughly enjoyed those two films.

  • @stacystec
    @stacystec 11 месяцев назад +1

    That book was difficult to read, I can't imagine what the viewing experience is like. It's a pretty terrible historical event.

  • @idiot_city5444
    @idiot_city5444 11 месяцев назад +15

    Story sounds about as interesting as staring at rocks

    • @strawman6085
      @strawman6085 11 месяцев назад +2

      Interesting rocks or the other kind?

    • @donkeysaurusrex7881
      @donkeysaurusrex7881 11 месяцев назад +1

      Revealing who done it 15 minutes into a 3.5 hour whodunit takes a lot of wind out of the sails

  • @zfesilva4605
    @zfesilva4605 11 месяцев назад +1

    Scorcese seemed to be relying on the historic injustice to be enough of a source of outrage: wrong. It's a movie and he should not have assumed the emotion was pre-packaged. Just look at Roots: my God was that moving, and everyone already knew slavery was bad. This film was a bit lazy with the emotional elements all around.

  • @ChilltheImpaler
    @ChilltheImpaler 11 месяцев назад +1

    It's just super long. My only critique was it didn't grab my attention for the full three and a half hours.

  • @user-cw4zj6kc8u
    @user-cw4zj6kc8u 11 месяцев назад +1

    Yeah that was one of the reasons I was iffy about watching it. Was the white guilt piece. I've always sided with the Indians in Westerns as well as anti-slavery and racial justice with MLK. But the past decade has weaponized those struggles to brand even men like me as the racists who did that. And After trying to explain that I'm not them for the past decade to deaf ears. I have come to the conclusion that it's really just racism against European decent. Which is MLK said was just as bad as racism against those of African decent or any other decent. All racism is racism. I don't call it reverse racism as if somehow europeans are superior in some way. I say all races are equal and must be protected from hatred. What we judge like MLK said is not race but ideology. Religion, politics, ethics, philosophy, etc. those are all fair game for criticism and debate. Ethnicity is not.

    • @TheGoldenCapstone
      @TheGoldenCapstone 11 месяцев назад

      You make good points even if MLK was actually a communist and a pseudo-Christian that would do drugs and have orgies with white sex workers on his speech tours.

  • @erniehudson1
    @erniehudson1 10 месяцев назад

    I absolutely love Killers of the Flower Moon. I strongly disagree with Alan; time flew by and the movie is not about who predicts when what, but it is a masterful psychological drama which should be enjoyed for each moment. Alan treats it like he watched an episode of Dragon Ball.

  • @andrewdavies5835
    @andrewdavies5835 11 месяцев назад

    Never felt long to me. Perhaps it would if watched on TV. But this is cinema.

  • @heronvitor6886
    @heronvitor6886 11 месяцев назад

    There was a very slow burn in the final hour and a half. But what i like the most about scorcese's movies is that even though that happened, i still eanna watch it agains. There iso much information there, you cant catch everything just by watching one time

  • @johngaltjkt62
    @johngaltjkt62 11 месяцев назад +1

    Read the book. For the life of me I cannot understand how this movie cost over 200 million dollars. When I read the book I kept thinking of it as a movie and I thought of "Let there be Blood" which is set during the same time period and even though it came out on 2007 was still made for a fraction of the money. This is a well done movie and yet very predictable however compared to what comes out now it's brilliant.

    • @donkeysaurusrex7881
      @donkeysaurusrex7881 11 месяцев назад +3

      They were working on the script for five years. About halfway through Scorcese realized he needed to make the story more about the Osage which required rewrites and working more closely with the Osage. Similarly, DiCaprio decided he wanted to play Ernest instead of the lead Bureau of Invéstigation agent which also required significant rewrites to change the focus of the story (I think this was a huge detriment to the film as Ernest really shouldn’t be the focus of the story to tell it as a mystery).
      It also wouldn’t surprise me if the town sets were mostly constructed from scratch.
      Neither of those things gets you to $200 million, but they do up the budget.

    • @johngaltjkt62
      @johngaltjkt62 11 месяцев назад

      the book IS about the Osage. the town sets yes I could see that however that's still not getting you to over 200 million. Like the Irishman...were did the money go? @@donkeysaurusrex7881

    • @JRRob3wn
      @JRRob3wn 11 месяцев назад +2

      Yeah, that’s absurd. If anything unnecessarily huge budgets like this discourage studios from making more historic movies.

  • @fuferito
    @fuferito 11 месяцев назад +6

    Stating this movie is "Predictable" is like saying that a Greek tragedy and Shakespeare are predictable (and even mob movies).
    This is the ever repeating American tragedy, and this is just Scorsese immortalizing it.

  • @gustavo_oviedo
    @gustavo_oviedo 11 месяцев назад

    I side with Alan for this movie. Scorsesse could have got everything neatly wrapped up in 2 and a half hours easily. this movie gets elevated by how crap the cinema landscape has been lately, but if you look at it side by side with goodfellas, and casino which are long and amazingly paced this movie really pales in comparison. But I guess the worst of Scorcesse beats the best of almost all modern directors.

  • @aurahoneydew9607
    @aurahoneydew9607 11 месяцев назад

    It's only weakness was being too long felt like this was meant to be a AppleTV+ miniseries but because of the people involved being movie tier they shaved of the intro and outros and stitched together a "movie"

  • @Balder-gb4eq
    @Balder-gb4eq 11 месяцев назад +6

    It was awesome. Go see it everyone

  • @mmadmbjm
    @mmadmbjm 11 месяцев назад +2

    Lily Gladstone's performance was mediocre nothing mind blowing about it like reviewers wrote or said Leo's and De Niro's was great

  • @llamasarus1
    @llamasarus1 11 месяцев назад

    I'd rather see predictable yet well-executed than unpredictable and incoherent.

  • @vpuik
    @vpuik 11 месяцев назад

    I just read that the book was mostly about the FBI, but the movie added the personal stuff to make ot more relatablr I guess.

  • @TheJadedFilmMaker
    @TheJadedFilmMaker 11 месяцев назад +4

    refuse to watch anything with hate spewing deniro in it.

  • @user61920
    @user61920 10 месяцев назад

    My opinion on the movie is it was a wasted opportunity. Gladstone should have been the star here, her performance in the beginning started out incredibly well. They spend an hour telling us how smart the Osage are, but then she remains a clueless one dimensional wife for almost the entirety of the film. If she was developed more, maybe did her own investigating, if DeNiro's character wasn't such a cartoon character, it would've been an awesome movie. But, it was basically "watch everyone one by one die in the same way" the movie, with excellent and expensive cinematography.

  • @CalibanFlamingo
    @CalibanFlamingo 11 месяцев назад

    Ill watch this at home, i cant do 3.5 hours...im gonna need that bathroom break and i hate missing a chunk of movie in the middle

  • @funkrobot9762
    @funkrobot9762 11 месяцев назад +1

    “This movie wasn’t made to make money” lol ok bro

  • @pillsareyummy
    @pillsareyummy 11 месяцев назад +2

    I heard that DeCaprio played a role in the script, wanting to focus on the 'victimization' elements. In other words, WOKE. If Scorsese had written the script it may have been a more complex film.

    • @bcdside
      @bcdside 11 месяцев назад +1

      Didn’t Scorsese co-write the movie with Eric Roth?

  • @DeflatingAtheism
    @DeflatingAtheism 11 месяцев назад

    5:29 - “He is an ugly man… and a dimwit.”
    I feel seen!

  • @epalacios1502
    @epalacios1502 11 месяцев назад +1

    I require white guilt to like this movie? Guess I’m not seeing it because like Allen I don’t have it nor am I white. We’ll always have Goodfellas.

  • @robbycannavale
    @robbycannavale 11 месяцев назад +15

    "Predictable?" Bro it's a true story.

    • @gorkamorka999
      @gorkamorka999 11 месяцев назад +5

      It's a criticism about how the movie tells that story. The point of making the film was to entertain. It's valid criticism.

    • @Fl0k5ser
      @Fl0k5ser 11 месяцев назад +4

      ​​​​@@gorkamorka999 and yet complaining it's predictable eventhough it's based on a true story? I can tell you that not a single person on this planet wouldn't knew that Titanic was going to sink before they watch the movie 🤷
      Not a single person on this planet wouldn't knew that Freddie Mercury was going to die before they watched Bohemian Rhapsody 🤷

    • @williamhare4456
      @williamhare4456 11 месяцев назад +4

      The problem is that the movie is part mystery because of its relative obscurity of its source material, but The Message removes all mystery because one watch of the trailer and I’ve already seen the movie.
      Compared it to Napoleon a story about a man of ambition against the world. I’m looking forward to seeing Napoleon even though I know the rough story of Napoleon and know how it ends.

    • @strawman6085
      @strawman6085 11 месяцев назад +1

      You must be young. Based on a true story doesn’t mean anything that happens in the movie actually happened. It just means the movie maker got the gist of it right.

    • @Fl0k5ser
      @Fl0k5ser 11 месяцев назад

      @@devilselbow That doesn't make it any bad either if the movie tries it best to tell the story as accurate as possible even when the viewer knew what's going to happen

  • @NisGaarde
    @NisGaarde 11 месяцев назад +1

    Fine, I'll be "that guy" ...
    It's Scorsese. Not Scor-Say-See.
    😉

  • @John_W_SmokesJR
    @John_W_SmokesJR 11 месяцев назад +2

    Looks like 3.5 hours of a lecture and finger wagging.

  • @Ryoufriggingserious
    @Ryoufriggingserious 11 месяцев назад +1

    I think Alan is way off on his review of this film.

  • @graniteman62
    @graniteman62 11 месяцев назад +1

    Agree with Alan, they could have easily cut 30 min and get to the chase

    • @calloway1972
      @calloway1972 11 месяцев назад +1

      they could have cut 90

    • @graniteman62
      @graniteman62 11 месяцев назад

      They just can't write plot that gets u to a b c

  • @Daniel_9_verse_9
    @Daniel_9_verse_9 11 месяцев назад

    It's hard to watch a movie when the lead actor hates me because of my political views. It's really hard. Actors should keep their political views to themselves.

  • @fredEVOIX
    @fredEVOIX 11 месяцев назад +1

    being predictable is ok in an action jean claude van damme movie not in a slow long talkative movie 3h26 is too long but to be fair all recent movies are stop with the 3h+ movies just because you don't pay film reels anymore, john wick 4 was also very bad because of that you don't do a 2min stairs climb for 15 minutes please just stop

  • @satansshadow2163
    @satansshadow2163 11 месяцев назад

    Leo's character caused all of the issues

  • @fearlessfreap8093
    @fearlessfreap8093 11 месяцев назад

    Visual history? So now fiction is truth. A documentary on the order of Cleopatra.

  • @matthewnicholls5496
    @matthewnicholls5496 11 месяцев назад +6

    Worst Scorsese ever. DeNiro is dreadfully miscast and the main character has no arc, even though Lenny does his best. Music is badly placed and even the directorial and editing choices were less than stellar at times.

  • @erwerwewerwer4575
    @erwerwewerwer4575 11 месяцев назад +6

    When will we ever get back to 90 minute films!! Modern Day film makers have a narcissistic "more is more" attitude to their craft which makes movie watching a bit of slog for me, regardless of whether it's actually good.

    • @scubasteves3214
      @scubasteves3214 11 месяцев назад +1

      Yea cinemas seating isn’t cut out to be sat on for 3 1/2 hours I find

    • @DrakeTimbershaft
      @DrakeTimbershaft 11 месяцев назад +3

      I agree with you 100%. My father said Killers of the Flower Moon was the cinematic equivalent of a fifteen minute Yngwie Malmsteen guitar solo.

    • @Fl0k5ser
      @Fl0k5ser 11 месяцев назад +3

      "Have a narcissistic "more is more" dude if the runtime is justified to tell the story, then no problem with having a long runtime. Return of the King and Godfather 2 were 3.5 hour great movies 🤷 Wanting every movie to have 90 minutes doesn't always mean it's going to be good

    • @sparkleypegs8350
      @sparkleypegs8350 11 месяцев назад

      Yes. Go back to normal length films.

  • @Kyle_Posey
    @Kyle_Posey 11 месяцев назад

    White Man Bad: The Movie

  • @EddieHenderson92
    @EddieHenderson92 11 месяцев назад +1

    I like long movies but I'm done with the white men are bad movies. Like Bill Burr said about watching white guilt movies, I just don't give a f@ck anymore.

  • @davidnonya7359
    @davidnonya7359 11 месяцев назад +1

    i'll pass, i cant seperate the art from the artist anymore. and dicaprio lecturing me about cliamte change while being on a yacht bunring ten thousands of gallons during world cup, he can EFF off. same for deniro. i have seen all his movies till meet the EFFERS! so yeah no thank you these people hate me. and i cant speerate the person who want me in a death camp from the art!! hitler might make the best paintings in the world, but i cant seperate the painting from heimler!

  • @Jadedphuck
    @Jadedphuck 11 месяцев назад

    Was Alan secretly feeding his dog eats in the beginning of the video

    • @FilmThreat
      @FilmThreat  11 месяцев назад

      Maybe

    • @Jadedphuck
      @Jadedphuck 11 месяцев назад

      @@FilmThreat yes. “Maybe”

  • @RealJeffTidwell
    @RealJeffTidwell 11 месяцев назад +3

    Despite the subject matter, I didn’t feel like this movie was very “woke” or really hammered home any messages about specifically “white guilt.” The white men were the vehicle for the evil, but it all fell naturally for me.

    • @Chrysostomus_17
      @Chrysostomus_17 11 месяцев назад

      You need to start paying more attention because this film was very woke. Mollie thinking that she wants to kill all the white people, the white people described and shown as invaders mooching off the osage, the repeated references to Tulsa as subtle as a sledgehammer, etc. It was a very white people bad movie.

  • @StefanMewa
    @StefanMewa 11 месяцев назад +1

    Meth Damon

  • @BrightNazKing_Of_Eagles
    @BrightNazKing_Of_Eagles 11 месяцев назад

    The thing at bugs me cuz i only watched this yesterday is that it's apparently "a True Story" but yet at the start of it, never said based on anything such that's just a slap in a face and finger, why base something on history if you won't acknowledge it as such 🙄

    • @Fl0k5ser
      @Fl0k5ser 11 месяцев назад +4

      Oppenheimer didn't start with "based on a true story" neither does Elvis, Bohemian Rhapsody, The Queen or The Crown with such disclaimer like that. People walking in already knew that it's based on a true story kiddo

    • @BrightNazKing_Of_Eagles
      @BrightNazKing_Of_Eagles 11 месяцев назад

      @H1tchcock940 thanks the reply I thought it was just me glad I'm not going insane 😅

  • @johnnytyler5685
    @johnnytyler5685 11 месяцев назад +8

    I haven't watched this vid yet...I just clicked on it when I saw the title, paused the vid immediately and am now writing this comment. I wanted to write this before hearing your opinions on it.
    Ten years ago I would've been absolutely PSYCHED to see this movie. A Scorsese/De Niro/DiCaprio historical drama about a real crime that took place in America? YES PLEASE! It would've been a day one visit to the theater for me.
    But that's not happening today. When I first saw a trailer for this movie...I think it was actually on TV during a football game or something, which is literally the only time I EVER watch TV (seriously)...I was so excited. Everything about it looked incredible. Like I said before...Scorsese/De Niro/Dicaprio and I'm in. After seeing the trailer, I got online and looked it up to learn more about it and its interesting title. The second I saw what the movie was actually about, I INSTANTLY lost all interest in seeing it.
    Why? Because I immediately knew that THE ONLY REASON Scorsese, De Niro and Dicaprio chose to make THIS movie about THIS historical event was because of their politics. Because this historical event involved white American men murdering a Native American family to steal their land (and the oil under it). There is not one single shred of doubt in my mind that this is SPECIFICALLY why Scorsese, De Niro and Dicaprio wanted to make this movie. Because of that, they AND their movie can go eff themselves.
    This is Hollywood reaping what they've sown by making sure that everyone on Earth knows exactly what the political beliefs of every single actor/writer/director/producer/etc in Hollywood is. Not only do they make sure to let us know this...as loudly as they possibly can...but they've now become full-blown "activists" who literally make PSAs telling us who we should vote for and what causes we "must" support. Like "protecting the environment" and "supporting diversity" and "banning guns" and whatever other left-wing causes they can think of.
    That deliberate, in-your-face wokeness has pushed me away from Hollywood and anything they make that even has a hint of woke in it. I'm just done with their BS. And I say that as a lifelong Independent who is not, never has been and never will be a "Trump supporter". So I am no "far-right" voter. Not even close. But I am BEYOND FED UP with Hollywood's political propaganda, like millions of other Americans (and, I would argue, even people in other countries) are. ANYTHING they make that even has a HINT of woke associated with it (I don't even necessarily believe that there will be any overt "woke messaging" in this actual movie...I just know that it was wokeness that led this trio to MAKE this movie in the first place), I will not spend one single penny of my money on.
    Everyone in Hollywood was on the same page when they deliberately became the full-time propaganda arm of the Liberals (and yes, I am fully aware that Hollywood is extremely Liberal and has been from the day it was created, none of which I ever had a problem with) and when they decided that they were going to shove that shit in our faces 24/7/365...so now they get to live with the consequences. Disney's mile-long string of financial flops is a shining example of what happens when people like me have finally had enough.
    I would LOVE to go see this movie. But I'm not going to. Nor will I buy it on Blu Ray when it comes out. I've found that cutting Hollywood out of my life wasn't nearly as hard as I thought it would be as a lifelong movie buff. I have shelves full of Blu Rays of movies that were all made BEFORE Hollywood chose this path of political activism over entertainment, and I'm perfectly content to watch those movies over and over again until things in Hollywood change. And if they never do, then so be it. I actually just watched Goodfellas and Casino maybe three weeks ago for probably the 40th time in my life, and I'll be fine watching THOSE Scorsese/De Niro movies time and time again until the day I die.

    • @rupertsmith5815
      @rupertsmith5815 11 месяцев назад

      That is a very bad argument like a terrible one .
      For one who gives a shit why the actors took the part or what they think ? What matters is their performance.
      Should I not watch any Tom Cruise because of his scientology beliefs ? should people not watch any film with Jim Caviezal because he is a Canon believer?
      Second your entire argument is that it is about white men murdering natives is to political for you but that's what happened what should you just never make a film where white people do evil things? especially when news flash natives still get treated horrible to the day with many of them being some of the poorest in the country and many not having electricity or running water in the richest country in the world.
      And you dislike that a film about the worst part of that abuse is being made ? you must hate Mississippi burning a film about the murder of civil rights workers in the 60s by the KKK starting to liberals William Dafoe and Gene Hackmen.
      If that film were made today you would be saying the exact same thing ?
      Third most of your rant has absolutely noting to do with this film it has to do with the film when does DiCaprio lecture the audience in the film ? or during advertisement in the film?
      You are ridiculous.

    • @jessecandiver3391
      @jessecandiver3391 11 месяцев назад +5

      Writing a whole essay about a movie you haven't seen is quite sad.

    • @_Tricky_
      @_Tricky_ 11 месяцев назад +2

      I’m with you on the work sh1t but I don’t mind a true story being told.
      It’s HOW it’s told (and promoted) that’s important to me.
      I don’t like being patronised or told what to think.
      I don’t get the sense this film does that.

    • @johnnytyler5685
      @johnnytyler5685 11 месяцев назад

      @@jessecandiver3391 If you don't like it, don't read it. I can assure you that I won't lose any sleep over it.

  • @mojomccall282
    @mojomccall282 11 месяцев назад

    Let me say this: A movie based on a true story can not be spoiled, nor are they "predictable." If a movie about WW2 had the Allies win in the end, that was real, and you would be an idiot to not know that fact. True story films may take libery with things, but the avaerage movie goer is too stupid to do any reading or research on the story. This is why I want Hollywood to stop adapting historical events, comics, animation, tv shows, video games, etc., because it is lazy. Make original movies.

  • @temperedglass1130
    @temperedglass1130 11 месяцев назад +1

    Won't be watching it.

  • @tjenahoj
    @tjenahoj 11 месяцев назад +7

    I just hope the movie do not have an antiwhite narrative.

    • @alexlazzerly3677
      @alexlazzerly3677 11 месяцев назад +1

      It's a true story and the white people in this case did terrible things. It's not an anti-white narrative.

    • @paulkem1130
      @paulkem1130 11 месяцев назад

      Well the white people in this story are evil and terrible. That's not anti-white narrative.. That's what actually happened.

    • @krislyons2793
      @krislyons2793 11 месяцев назад

      dumbest comment I read in a while

    • @jefflang4029
      @jefflang4029 11 месяцев назад +4

      No, it doesn't do that. Yes, the villains in this movie are white but that's because it's a true story but it's directed and handled well. My only criticism is that it's far too long, very flat and lacks any climax.

    • @tjenahoj
      @tjenahoj 11 месяцев назад

      @@jefflang4029 Thanks, I will add it to my list then!

  • @alexknox814
    @alexknox814 11 месяцев назад

    Well scorsese is a mummy a dinosaur if u will

    • @_Tricky_
      @_Tricky_ 11 месяцев назад

      That’s nice

  • @davidguffman
    @davidguffman 11 месяцев назад

    Hopefully this movie is not another Irishman. That was the worst Scorsese movie I've ever seen. But, 1 out of a dozen who gives a fuck

  • @majorgrubert5887
    @majorgrubert5887 11 месяцев назад

    I wonder if if can win Oscars.. I thought boxes had to be checked and a certain amount of this an d that race and gender and sexuality… am I wrong or do they make exceptions for this director?

  • @fyrstlast2393
    @fyrstlast2393 11 месяцев назад

    So you wore a diaper......

  • @walkerzupp8393
    @walkerzupp8393 11 месяцев назад

    The film flew by for me - I turned my phone off, shoved it in my jacket and just got immersed in the movie. Whereas The Irishman was Licorice Pizza - Flower Moon was There Will Be Blood. I suddenly remembered what a versatile filmmaker Scorsese is. In the words of Joe-Bob: "We had Oil-Fu, Lily-Fu, White-Cum-Human-Guilt-Fu and Big-Fisted-F-B-I-Fu - 4 stars, check it out!"

  • @stargate121
    @stargate121 11 месяцев назад +1

    Why can't the critics just say that the movie is long and boring? It's like they're afraid to upset Scorsese.

    • @FilmThreat
      @FilmThreat  11 месяцев назад

      I believe I said it was long and boring. Pretty though.

  • @danielh1771
    @danielh1771 11 месяцев назад +1

    You guys missed the racial aspect of the movie. Alan called it “predictable”. The question is why is it predictable? Why is that these Osage women continue to marry white men? Why is it that the instantly acquired wealth and decadence accelerated their decline?

  • @Joemantler
    @Joemantler 11 месяцев назад +1

    Sounds like a story they could have cut down to 50 minutes. Or a 4 episode miniseries/documentary. It'll do fine at the awards. White Guilt always plays well there.

  • @barttarts6234
    @barttarts6234 11 месяцев назад +2

    To many bad wyte ppl so that means its woke meaning I can't watch it

  • @roywall8169
    @roywall8169 11 месяцев назад

    Watching this, I asked myself “have you ever seen a movie he has directed, or produced?”. I went to IMDB and scrolled through his work. The answer is no, I have not. The only thing I have seen was the music video for Bad. For someone who is so highly acclaimed as Martin, he has yet to make anything that appealed to me. Is that his fault? No. I am not much of a movie goer, more of a reader. This review has not done much to excite me to see this current movie.

  • @alessandroattuoni
    @alessandroattuoni 8 месяцев назад

    This film is shite