Maybe I missed it but I don't think you compared images of the pro vs pro max both in 3x zoom. That would have been interesting as the pro has a dedicated 3x telephoto while the max would use a digital crop to achieve 3x. So in theory, the cheaper pro would give better images at arguably the more popular/useful 3x zoom length than the Max phone.
It would have been interesting to see how much better the dedicated 3x zoom on the pro would be compared to the max at 3x digital. In fact anything at zoom 3-5 may look a lot better on the pro. It may tip some people into buying the cheaper phone. I hear the max camera has a larger sensor so maybe it wouldn’t have been that big of a difference? I wish the max had just added a 5x as an additional lens instead of replacing the 3x. Oh well.
@@RMtexI don’t get it, I watched lots of videos on RUclips and 5 x zoom just seems to compress more of the background compared to the 3 x zoom, why would you want 3 x zoom when you can have 5 x ? What would be the advantage?
It would be interesting to compare 3x zoomed images from both cameras. It would really show how good or bad is computational photography on the Pro Max versus native zoom on Pro.
@@PeterLindgren1 The reason I asked this question is that I heard some iPhone fanboys claiming that the 3x from Pro Max is as good as from Pro because "Apple's computational photography is so advanced..." I would like to prove them wrong because this is nonsense. No advanced computational photography can ever be as good as actual zoom lens. :)
Your one comment “77mm wasn’t enough for most of the shots and 120mm on a phone was just the sweet spot”!! alone was enough to convince me And your video is the only one I found that says this and totally agree on this from all the shots I’ve seen on the 5x lens from YT vids
I was testing the 5x lens in my pixel 8 pro and then i made the same in my 100-400 ultrasonic canon lens acopled to a EOS-1 and tough again that despite the god job in the phone 5mm never in life but never in the next 100 years they will have 20 years old optical zoom quality! A giant optical lens is just at another level
Good job man, one of the best video so far!!! Just a friendly tip, hide your plate number. I can see where you love in Sweden. Its much better to your privicy life.
Damn bro, i wish i was able to take these cinematic shots, those videos are insane, they made me want to buy the car not the phone😂 congrats on your skills 👏🏻
Hey Peter good video, there a nice handset with a few tweak from the iPhone 14, type c even do its just a standard one will now aloud to hook up an external memory. I shoot all my video on YT with the iPhone 13 Pro Max . which is a cheater way to do videos and now with that Blackmagic app it's great.Was that the digging out of your new home. I wish you and your family all the best with it.
Perfect review my man Would love some wipes between other cameras, older models and stuff like that to see the difference in details Great video as always!
Very nice video. I'm wondering if perhaps Apple is limiting the high FPS Log to external storage simply because of the file sizes? I'm guessing there's not a limit setting for the standard Camera app that allows you to only record so much? If that's the case then maybe they're just concerned that if someone was blindly recording and used up all the space it could possibly crash the phone? No idea if that's a possibility but the one thing that came to my mind.
Might be. My thought was, maybe it is to prevent further overheating of the phone, because the (neural) processor can already warm up significantly when using the camera, and stressing the SSD at same time in warm/conditions maybe is too much at 60fps.
@@gerard3797 Could well be yes. I'm sure they didn't do it just to annoy people like a lot of people think. They've usually got a good reason behind everything they do.
I like my 15 Pro Max but it's just really too big :( i'd like to keep it for concert videos but handling is really a struggle. Switching back to the Pro soon. I used to own Samsung Notes but, honestly, you just get tired of big phones eventually.
I own iphone 13 mini and I love that small size. Comfy to use even with one hand. I'm looking to upgrade to get more ram and telephoto lens and I'm really sad about the massive sizes of current flagships :(
I have a 14pm and wondering why the 4k 24fps and 30fps looks very jittery compared to other phones. Also, any tips for photographic style something to keep as standard(for photo). Great comparison btw. 👌🏻
@@gurnihal12 yeah but on the gopro 30 fps is ok, and on android as well, but on iphone(this is my first), it is noticeably more jittery. Anyway any tips on photographic style for instant nice jpegs?
I can't believe these iphones 15 have only 2x zoom on cinematic mode. How come the iphone 13 pro max has a 3x zoom??? It got worse or am I mistaken. The cinematic mode with zoom that isn't digital would be the main reason for me to get a new iphone but I can't figure out which one I should get because the zoom information in cinematic mode comparison across iphone models is nowhere available....
amazing work with flying phone-drone camera :) it's very immersive experience also thanks for quick camera tips !!! I have for about a week now 15 Pro and love it photo and video quality top notch i feel like no way to get this thin better in such of small device like that just mind blowing !
Did you shoot the aerial footage in Log? it doesn't look it. It looks very digital. Would you drone be able to carry the phone and an SSD? If not, there's no point using the iphone as drone footage without log, because than it'll look all digital like how it looks on your video.
Nice review, got the 13 Pro Max now and I might switch to 15 Pro Max when it gets readily available here. I have used my current one as main camera with the Insta360 Flow on a few assignments and that 5x zoom would be awesome to try out. Just like I got the Mavic 3 Pro for those extra focal lengths over my Air 2s :p
I rlly hope they make cameras equal again on 16 pro & pro max like previous years 14 pro and older models.. I dont like pro max cuz its too big for my hand since im using my phone most of the time in one hand
Well this suck, as always great tutorial. For some reason my BM App does not have Apple Log under color space, but my Moment App does allow me to choose 4k 60, go figure.
during the FPV, you can see micro jitters on the phone, that is why i stick with my sony A74 instead of phone or gopro.. nice video. appreciate the hard work. 😎
Woah! You made it very well explaned. Before I watch the video I read the comments first, but you are totally correct which lenses are good in specific purposes. Thats why I am convinced to buy for my own liked which is the Iphone 15 pro max. Soon to earn in my pocket! 😅
Hey Peter, excellent content as always, appreciate the effort! Which one did you choose after using them for some time? I'm curious. Thanks man! @@PeterLindgren1
Thank you for the video you’re dobe and you mention the heat of the phone as a living person her in Kuwait the average temperature we have around 35c- 45c (in winter 30c or lower) I don’t think the heat will be a big deal to me cuz all the time the phone feel like it burning 😂 any way just wanted to mention that cuz i see a lot of people complaining about it so ya
It's kinda bummer that they didn't bring 5x to Pro and pushing customers towards Max, however the camera might be worth the extra cost and waiting for one month more. Still it's not nice. I like your ring btw, it looks like a proper gimbal.
@@internetdude132 oh you have a point there ahaha. i was just thinking abt being sad about no 5x zoom on pro, but that's true, when do i ever zoom in that much 😂😂
The Apple Camera app only records in ProRes HQ, and the data rate is too high for the internal storage at 4K60 - that's why it doesn't work without external storage.
1:12. QUES. WHY DOES EVERY ONE USE CASEY NEISTAT. STYLE. OF VLOGGING. IS THIS THE ONLY WAY. TO VLOG ??? I HAVE. TO DO SOMETHING DIFF. WHEN I START I HATE SEING. THE SAME SET UP. THE SAME EDITING TRICKS. LIKE. OMG. EVERY SINGAL. PERSON. DOES. IT. SMHHH. SO WIERD. I UNDERSTAND HE'S THE G🐐OAT. BUT WE DONT ALL HAVE TO EDIT AND FLIP THINGS AROUND. AND SLAM STUFF EXACTLY HOW HE DOES. ??????
Dude, your videos are very good, I even think that Toyota should give some money for this video lol, but as for the iPhones, I imagined what you would say about the battery of the 2 devices in relation to the time of use filming in ProRes, congratulations on the channel, God bless you.
I would not put the iPhone on an FPV without a vibration damper to much, those micro vibrations will ruin the cameras the same as if you have them on a motorcycle without a proper mount.
Hey, I just got to 1:28 on your video and found out that AppleWorks was not so kind. They made u buy your own phones. Now in Euroland, I bet that cost a pretty Euro, Vat Tax, Apple Tax, Orange Tax, etc. U are probably broke--I meant bankrupt after all of that sad capital investment in the American Dream. At least your drone footage gave us some good laughs--kept waiting for the finale--a Big Crash! Nothing happened. How disappointing! 😎😎
4K anything with an iPhone doesn't make any difference. It's weird how people obsess over it but most don't watch videos in 4K as it is and when they watch a RUclips or Instagram video its usually on their phones. Most can't tell the difference even if there was one.
Audio in the woods sounded way off - warbly and super digital "enhanced". What mic were you using? Besides that, incredible content!! I'm going to pass on this iteration because I already have a 14 Pro Max and see little reason to upgrade.
What are those bubble-I mean square lights doing on top of your head? Are they to keep you directed as to where the sun was on the coming up shortest daylight (if any) day of the year, December 21, 2023? Forget the iphone, the comedy outweighs the phone. Apple should just give u a little kickback under the table for such an innovative commercial. 😎😎
Getting tried of seeing so many YT videos where’s someone has brought multiple phones. It’s ironic that they do this to help the genral p[ubilc, yet the genral public cant get them because all these YT channels have them. This is a nice review but even so……
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Maybe I missed it but I don't think you compared images of the pro vs pro max both in 3x zoom. That would have been interesting as the pro has a dedicated 3x telephoto while the max would use a digital crop to achieve 3x. So in theory, the cheaper pro would give better images at arguably the more popular/useful 3x zoom length than the Max phone.
You don’t have a 3x zoom on the max. Digital crop isn’t a fair comparison 👍🏼
It would have been interesting to see how much better the dedicated 3x zoom on the pro would be compared to the max at 3x digital. In fact anything at zoom 3-5 may look a lot better on the pro. It may tip some people into buying the cheaper phone. I hear the max camera has a larger sensor so maybe it wouldn’t have been that big of a difference?
I wish the max had just added a 5x as an additional lens instead of replacing the 3x. Oh well.
@@RMtexthat’s why i ordered the pro and not the pro max😉
@@RMtexI don’t get it, I watched lots of videos on RUclips and 5 x zoom just seems to compress more of the background compared to the 3 x zoom, why would you want 3 x zoom when you can have 5 x ? What would be the advantage?
2x is enough. You don’t need both 2x and 3x. It’s more versatile to have 1x 2x 5x than 1x 2x 3x
This is the most informative video comparison between Iphone 15 Pro Vs. Pro Max in terms of camera dynamics. Always the man, Peter!
Perfect timing with this video. Thank you for the effort and attention to detail with the comparison!
Wow, those drone shots are the best vid introduction to a phone review ever. Respect.
Love the extra effort with the effects you do! Makes me on the edge, waiting to see what more maybe coming.
It would be interesting to compare 3x zoomed images from both cameras. It would really show how good or bad is computational photography on the Pro Max versus native zoom on Pro.
Well it’s like comparing apples with oranges. You can’t compare a 24mm lens cropped in to 77 against a native 77mm lens.
@@PeterLindgren1 You certainly can. I was curious how much worse the cropped one is.
@@PeterLindgren1 The reason I asked this question is that I heard some iPhone fanboys claiming that the 3x from Pro Max is as good as from Pro because "Apple's computational photography is so advanced..." I would like to prove them wrong because this is nonsense. No advanced computational photography can ever be as good as actual zoom lens. :)
We need a LUT for apple log that can be uses in Lumafusion pls
If you can import LUTs in to lumafusion, then my luts should work 👍🏼
Im really impressed with the image quality, great vid Peter👍
Great video Peter! For the $$$ of these phones I really don't think the quality is that good to be honest.
Great vid. Your sound reminds me a bit about the Zlatan. Subbed for more of that goodness. ❤
Your one comment “77mm wasn’t enough for most of the shots and 120mm on a phone was just the sweet spot”!! alone was enough to convince me
And your video is the only one I found that says this and totally agree on this from all the shots I’ve seen on the 5x lens from YT vids
I was testing the 5x lens in my pixel 8 pro and then i made the same in my 100-400 ultrasonic canon lens acopled to a EOS-1 and tough again that despite the god job in the phone 5mm never in life but never in the next 100 years they will have 20 years old optical zoom quality! A giant optical lens is just at another level
This was a great video about the new iPhone 15 Pro series. I hope to see more soon!
The 5x should have been on the smaller pro too…not everyone wants the brick size max.
one of the greatest tests ive seen on YT
thx sir my same max is coming mon oct 2, can hardly wait been on 11 pm. had that sneaky suspicion about 5x tetra prism nice.
EPIC shots Pete! 👍
Really good video peter
Can you please mention the link of the case that you have sticked on you iPhone, it looks dope🔥🔥
Good job man, one of the best video so far!!!
Just a friendly tip, hide your plate number. I can see where you love in Sweden. Its much better to your privicy life.
You do know that all info is public in Sweden. Doesn’t matter if I hide my plate number 🤷🏻
wow this is so high quality, thank you for this video!!
Great content Peter. Liked and subscribed - Greetings from Greenland.
I don't know if you have DJI Mic, but if you do please test if they work with iPhone 15?
Damn bro, i wish i was able to take these cinematic shots, those videos are insane, they made me want to buy the car not the phone😂 congrats on your skills 👏🏻
Hey Peter good video, there a nice handset with a few tweak from the iPhone 14, type c even do its just a standard one will now aloud to hook up an external memory. I shoot all my video on YT with the iPhone 13 Pro Max . which is a cheater way to do videos and now with that Blackmagic app it's great.Was that the digging out of your new home. I wish you and your family all the best with it.
Sir we can shot ProRes log without ssd if we use black magic camera app ?
Perfect review my man
Would love some wipes between other cameras, older models and stuff like that to see the difference in details
Great video as always!
Can u make a video of your 4 iPhone luts?
Very nice video. I'm wondering if perhaps Apple is limiting the high FPS Log to external storage simply because of the file sizes? I'm guessing there's not a limit setting for the standard Camera app that allows you to only record so much?
If that's the case then maybe they're just concerned that if someone was blindly recording and used up all the space it could possibly crash the phone? No idea if that's a possibility but the one thing that came to my mind.
Might be. My thought was, maybe it is to prevent further overheating of the phone, because the (neural) processor can already warm up significantly when using the camera, and stressing the SSD at same time in warm/conditions maybe is too much at 60fps.
@@gerard3797 Could well be yes. I'm sure they didn't do it just to annoy people like a lot of people think. They've usually got a good reason behind everything they do.
I like my 15 Pro Max but it's just really too big :( i'd like to keep it for concert videos but handling is really a struggle. Switching back to the Pro soon.
I used to own Samsung Notes but, honestly, you just get tired of big phones eventually.
I own iphone 13 mini and I love that small size. Comfy to use even with one hand. I'm looking to upgrade to get more ram and telephoto lens and I'm really sad about the massive sizes of current flagships :(
Thank you sir very informative video you deserve to subscribe❤
Did you have the overheating issues with this ... im plannin to buy the max
I have a 14pm and wondering why the 4k 24fps and 30fps looks very jittery compared to other phones. Also, any tips for photographic style something to keep as standard(for photo).
Great comparison btw. 👌🏻
24fps does look jittery . That’s normal , specially when you end up looking at 24fps and 30fps after watching a 60fps video .
@@gurnihal12 yeah but on the gopro 30 fps is ok, and on android as well, but on iphone(this is my first), it is noticeably more jittery. Anyway any tips on photographic style for instant nice jpegs?
Great work Peter!❤
Nice video sir, what case is that at @1:51 ?
Thanks! It's from PeakDesign
Another great video. Peter, you are killing it. Congrats.
Please do a comparison between iPhone 15 pro & Xperia 1 V for video!
Love this kind of content 👍🏻
Watched a few and this by far exactly what I was looking for. Straight to the point and not too technical. Great job & thanks!
I can't believe these iphones 15 have only 2x zoom on cinematic mode. How come the iphone 13 pro max has a 3x zoom??? It got worse or am I mistaken. The cinematic mode with zoom that isn't digital would be the main reason for me to get a new iphone but I can't figure out which one I should get because the zoom information in cinematic mode comparison across iphone models is nowhere available....
amazing work with flying phone-drone camera :) it's very immersive experience also thanks for quick camera tips !!! I have for about a week now 15 Pro and love it photo and video quality top notch i feel like no way to get this thin better in such of small device like that just mind blowing !
Very informative video! You are such a cool and funny guy :)
Keep on going
Great comparison thanks. 👍
Immersing my latest iphone in water is not on my to do list but it's nice to know you can, 'thanks for the video' 😀
+1 Subscriber here. I love the way you present your video to compare!
Are u using Front Camera or Rear Camera for talking vlog?
Kunglig video peternet. Förbaskat sugen på en pro max alltså!
Helt magiskt. Sådan video
and this is how a photographers review iphone 15!!! great video!!
Thank you!
Did you shoot the aerial footage in Log? it doesn't look it. It looks very digital. Would you drone be able to carry the phone and an SSD? If not, there's no point using the iphone as drone footage without log, because than it'll look all digital like how it looks on your video.
Nope I did not!
Must have been the world most expressive consumer drone set-up ☺️.
Well made video and great review!
Best camera review between phones so far in t the internet
Nice review, got the 13 Pro Max now and I might switch to 15 Pro Max when it gets readily available here. I have used my current one as main camera with the Insta360 Flow on a few assignments and that 5x zoom would be awesome to try out. Just like I got the Mavic 3 Pro for those extra focal lengths over my Air 2s :p
great video! Thanks Peter🙏🏽📸💪🏽
I rlly hope they make cameras equal again on 16 pro & pro max like previous years 14 pro and older models.. I dont like pro max cuz its too big for my hand since im using my phone most of the time in one hand
Yeah i agree, the Max is jut a bit too big!
This video was so well done!!
Thank you!
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Cool and interesting test. Like the breakdown and that you managed to "cheat" on apple with the black magic app 😜.
Well this suck, as always great tutorial. For some reason my BM App does not have Apple Log under color space, but my Moment App does allow me to choose 4k 60, go figure.
during the FPV, you can see micro jitters on the phone, that is why i stick with my sony A74 instead of phone or gopro.. nice video. appreciate the hard work. 😎
YEah, the A74 wouldn't be good on an FPV either due to the IBIS lol. Thanks for watching!
@@PeterLindgren1 the stabilisation would be even worse on a7iv lol
HA, i would not have the balls to put A74 on a FPV either much less a iphone...you da man@@PeterLindgren1
@@RafalGendarz 100%
Pls do more smartphone videography with this new iphone15PM.
Conclusion is the 5mm worh the extra bucks and the pain of having a huge phone in the pocket?
Intresting have 13 pro max. But i might change my iphone. Or new Go pro 12?
he didnt mention how fast the battery drains when filming in log. not a good review.
Doesn’t drain more than when you film regularly. So should last you for about 2-3 hours ish.
thank you🎉
Woah! You made it very well explaned. Before I watch the video I read the comments first, but you are totally correct which lenses are good in specific purposes. Thats why I am convinced to buy for my own liked which is the Iphone 15 pro max. Soon to earn in my pocket! 😅
This is a great video. Thanks for making it one day I hope to be able to have the income that I am able to buy two iPhones and make a review about it
Great vid. Which will be your daily driver?
Thanks for watching! HAven't decided yet. I like the size of the Pro, but the camera on the Max is awesome.
Hey Peter, excellent content as always, appreciate the effort! Which one did you choose after using them for some time? I'm curious. Thanks man! @@PeterLindgren1
Great review
Thank you for the video you’re dobe and you mention the heat of the phone as a living person her in Kuwait the average temperature we have around 35c- 45c (in winter 30c or lower) I don’t think the heat will be a big deal to me cuz all the time the phone feel like it burning 😂 any way just wanted to mention that cuz i see a lot of people complaining about it so ya
It's kinda bummer that they didn't bring 5x to Pro and pushing customers towards Max, however the camera might be worth the extra cost and waiting for one month more. Still it's not nice. I like your ring btw, it looks like a proper gimbal.
I was just thinking that it's sad that I can't use 3x on the Pro Max because I think it might be more useful ? :D
I’m waiting for you to make one ima buy it
I went from 12 pro max to 15 pro and love it. I would loved to have 5x but the lesser weight is so much more comfortable
@@internetdude132 oh you have a point there ahaha. i was just thinking abt being sad about no 5x zoom on pro, but that's true, when do i ever zoom in that much 😂😂
I agree. The pro and pm model difference should only be in size. Kinda like preference choices for people.
Now that's f'ing BRAVE! An iPhone attached to a MagSafe while flying?
Nah, it's a plastic clip in the back lol!
The Apple Camera app only records in ProRes HQ, and the data rate is too high for the internal storage at 4K60 - that's why it doesn't work without external storage.
1:12. QUES. WHY DOES EVERY ONE USE CASEY NEISTAT. STYLE. OF VLOGGING. IS THIS THE ONLY WAY. TO VLOG ??? I HAVE. TO DO SOMETHING DIFF. WHEN I START I HATE SEING. THE SAME SET UP. THE SAME EDITING TRICKS. LIKE. OMG. EVERY SINGAL. PERSON. DOES. IT. SMHHH. SO WIERD. I UNDERSTAND HE'S THE G🐐OAT. BUT WE DONT ALL HAVE TO EDIT AND FLIP THINGS AROUND. AND SLAM STUFF EXACTLY HOW HE DOES. ??????
My man, ease down on the caps 🫡
@@PeterLindgren1 I ONLY TYPE IN CAPS ONLY SO EVERYONE KNOWS IRS NO CAP
Dude, your videos are very good, I even think that Toyota should give some money for this video lol, but as for the iPhones, I imagined what you would say about the battery of the 2 devices in relation to the time of use filming in ProRes, congratulations on the channel, God bless you.
I would not put the iPhone on an FPV without a vibration damper to much, those micro vibrations will ruin the cameras the same as if you have them on a motorcycle without a proper mount.
Awesome vid, thanks!
Thanks for watching it!
U CAN USE THE 3X OR THE 5X ON CINEMATIQUE U JUST HAVE TO ZOOM IN LOL
seriously good 🙂
Which one you prefear
Watch the video =)
Hey, I just got to 1:28 on your video and found out that AppleWorks was not so kind. They made u buy your own phones. Now in Euroland, I bet that cost a pretty Euro, Vat Tax, Apple Tax, Orange Tax, etc. U are probably broke--I meant bankrupt after all of that sad capital investment in the American Dream. At least your drone footage gave us some good laughs--kept waiting for the finale--a Big Crash! Nothing happened. How disappointing! 😎😎
4K anything with an iPhone doesn't make any difference. It's weird how people obsess over it but most don't watch videos in 4K as it is and when they watch a RUclips or Instagram video its usually on their phones. Most can't tell the difference even if there was one.
Audio in the woods sounded way off - warbly and super digital "enhanced". What mic were you using? Besides that, incredible content!! I'm going to pass on this iteration because I already have a 14 Pro Max and see little reason to upgrade.
It did! Used the internal mic of the ZVE1
that unboxing triggered me so much
I would get the DJI mini pro 4 over the iPhone 15 pro max. The iPhone 15 pro max looks the same as the 14 pro max.
I don't know why my Blackmagic app don't have Apple Log //I also use iPhone15Pro
What are those bubble-I mean square lights doing on top of your head? Are they to keep you directed as to where the sun was on the coming up shortest daylight (if any) day of the year, December 21, 2023? Forget the iphone, the comedy outweighs the phone. Apple should just give u a little kickback under the table for such an innovative commercial. 😎😎
iPhone video is iPhone video))) It’s usable In a pinch. I am just glad that house project is moving 🙌
"God bless" Blackmagic for giving us what Apple doesn't. With my iPhone I can record 4K 30 ProRes even though it's 128Gb, thanks to BlackMagic 🙌
interesting one
Now u know! 😂
i want one 🙈
They're awesome, and i'm now broke lol.
Haha! Säljer du andra?@@PeterLindgren1
Getting tried of seeing so many YT videos where’s someone has brought multiple phones. It’s ironic that they do this to help the genral p[ubilc, yet the genral public cant get them because all these YT channels have them. This is a nice review but even so……
Lmao! So we are the problem because we make videos before you decide on which to buy? Come on.
But what you didn’t do is shoot under low light, I’m sure once you get into a low light situation. These cameras look like crap.
Not really, they’re absolutely useful but there will be better options.
Whose real world testing? lol
good♪
Idk I liked how the 15 pro looked better
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Wow...u're verrrry handsome
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