Why More Filmmakers Are Choosing Tubi Over Netflix - Ramon 'Swift' Sloan

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  • Опубликовано: 31 авг 2023
  • In this Film Courage video interview, Filmmaker Ramon 'Swift' Sloan explains that Tubi offers filmmakers a unique opportunity to monetize their work, emphasizing that, with a good film and a built audience, Tubi can be more financially rewarding than traditional licensing deals with larger networks.
    Ramon "Swift" Sloan is the founder of Swift Motion Pictures; a movie director, producer and writer. The Milwaukee native started his career in entertainment as a book author and publisher. he released his first novel Motivation- Mastering the Game in 2010 His breakout novel is now depicted in the film series Circumstances - which was executive produced by the author himself under Swift Motion Pictures, a venture that derived from a passion for the arts through his schooling of Television & Video Production at Milwaukee Area Technical College. His work in television includes that of cameraman and floor director for Milwaukee Public Television (MPTV) programs : Black Nouveau and Cooking Raw. His entrepreneurial work both as an author and movie producer have been featured in The Source Magazine, Sheen Magazine, Hip Hop Weekly, Cali Post, Don Diva Magazine, and more. He's also appeared on Tv One's talk show Sister Circle TV, This Is 50, Fox 6 news , and has been interviewed by countless journalist including the likes of Raro Lae, Margo Spann's CoCoa Hollywood Live, Kierra M of Dash Radio, and more. Sloan is working on several film projects in various production phases.
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Комментарии • 76

  • @filmcourage
    @filmcourage  9 месяцев назад +10

    Have you put your film on one of these platforms? How is it working out for you?

    • @malcolmdwain
      @malcolmdwain 9 месяцев назад +1

      It is, and I can’t wait for my next one to be on the platform!

    • @MarlinDarrah
      @MarlinDarrah 9 месяцев назад

      Yes, I have several films on TubiTV, MovieCentral (a RUclips channel) and various other platforms. A filmmaker gets about $7500 for every million views (for that many views it seems a filmmaker should make more than that, but that's where the model is right now). That's based on a 75/25 deal you have with your distributor. Your distributor gets 20-25% of all revenue, so they get about $2500 per million views of your film on TubiTV or other AVOD. So the key situation here is .... Can you drive viewers to your movie parked on Tubi or other platforms (advertising and PR campaigns cost money - is it worth spending money, how much, where do you spend ad money, etc)? Otherwise, how will they find your movie with tens of thousands of other titles on their platform? These are hard questions for all indie filmmakers. Can you build-up fan loyalty for your films? Can you afford to build-up fan loyalty for your films? Every filmmaker needs a PR and marketing person or team - but for most of us, we can't afford effective campaigns.

    • @grantgreyguda
      @grantgreyguda 8 месяцев назад

      ​@@malcolmdwain👍 👍

    • @FilmMakerJimmieG
      @FilmMakerJimmieG 10 часов назад

      Yes Tubi and Amazon Prime

  • @velvetbees
    @velvetbees 9 месяцев назад +27

    Tubi has slowly and patiently built their services over several years. I've watched it for years.

  • @HerLovesBooks
    @HerLovesBooks 9 месяцев назад +44

    Tubi is are doing better now then they were two years ago. I see more people talking about Tubi on social media than Netflix these days. That surprises me, but I see it.

    • @Bluespirit12345
      @Bluespirit12345 9 месяцев назад +1

      Only time I seen people talking about Rubi is them making fun of the movies lol

    • @lulumyataza7894
      @lulumyataza7894 7 месяцев назад

      ​​@@Bluespirit12345that's black Twitter. But the door is closing for black independent film makers. Tubi is getting very strict from next year about the quality so its gonna shut out a lot of black folk

    • @k-slay4407
      @k-slay4407 3 месяца назад

      ​@@Bluespirit12345😂🤣🤣🤣 right

  • @entertainmentfan1463
    @entertainmentfan1463 6 месяцев назад +12

    Speaking as someone who grew up with video stores, I love Tubi and that they kind of brought back that video store feel again. Where on one end you see all the big titles headlining, but on the other end, you see a smaller movie or show you either heard about but haven't seen or simply the movie cover has you curious.
    I'm also glad Tubi is helping out a lot of aspiring and smaller filmmakers. It's way too costly for them to make thousands of DVD/blu ray copies that might not sell and they have no shot of landing on a TV channel. So places like Tubi is basically a TV channel and a video store combined into one.

  • @DavidGriffin
    @DavidGriffin 9 месяцев назад +59

    Yeah ... Netflix and Amazon are super duper gatekeeping. They don't even have an independent films section that'll help.

    • @mikekillagreen9432
      @mikekillagreen9432 9 месяцев назад +5

      Yes. Amazon is awful they just kept dropping the pay rate until they just purged films anyway.

    • @ultimatesunrise
      @ultimatesunrise 9 месяцев назад +7

      But 99% of tubis OG content is modern day blackslpoitation movies that are corny as hell.. Netflix and Amazon has good, quality production value.. most the time

    • @mikekillagreen9432
      @mikekillagreen9432 9 месяцев назад +2

      @ultimatesunrise Amazon had just as many bad movies. They still have alot.

    • @ultimatesunrise
      @ultimatesunrise 9 месяцев назад +2

      @@mikekillagreen9432 you mean you didn't like Velocipastor?!

    • @mikekillagreen9432
      @mikekillagreen9432 9 месяцев назад

      @@ultimatesunrise 😂😂

  • @LFXMEDIA
    @LFXMEDIA 9 месяцев назад +17

    Netflix does the same thing Amazon does to authors. It’s always better to stay independent.

    • @trinaray7101
      @trinaray7101 9 месяцев назад +3

      What advice do you have for an author who was thinking about putting their book on Amazon? What other route would you recommend? I just finished a book and was thinking about putting it on Amazon.

  • @4EverILoveHalloween
    @4EverILoveHalloween 9 месяцев назад +10

    Tubi is a lot better than Netflix, except for ads. I hate ads! Every time an ad comes on I always turn my TV off or down until I know for sure the ads are over.

  • @farahhjackson1018
    @farahhjackson1018 9 месяцев назад +5

    Tubi is actually becoming widely known now

  • @hershboystudios
    @hershboystudios 9 месяцев назад +7

    Thank you for dropping these gems 💎 🙏🏾

  • @aryl2394
    @aryl2394 9 месяцев назад +5

    How calm do u want a voice to be? Him: yes 😭😭😭🥰🥰🥰

  • @ewalichorowicz4614
    @ewalichorowicz4614 9 месяцев назад +12

    Thank you so much Ramon for explaining about the movie streaming industry. I have never heard about Tubi. As an amateur I agree that these days audio can make or break a movie. I pay close attention to the quality of sound in a movie regardless if it is music, the weather, or human voice. I am under the impression that sound in the movie can also help determine the mood of the characters and in general what is about to happen in the movie

  • @83shadow3
    @83shadow3 9 месяцев назад +13

    He is 100% correct audio makes or breaks a movie. Because I rarely say a movie is bad or horrible because that is just one person's opinion. But I say that the movie Tooth Queen of pain is the worst movie I ever bought. It's seriously horrible because it has beyond horrible audio in the movie. I mean like 4 people in a small room an they are all speaking in a normal voice vellum. But you can only hear two of them clearly an it sounds like the other two are barely whispering. When they are all next to one another how do you mess up the audio that bad. You basically only hear like 40% of the movie the clearest audio is when someone is listening to a voice on a phone or a radio. Then you can understand every single word perfectly. But out side of that good luck being able to hear what the actors an actress are actually saying. It's like that throughout the entire movie the audio is completely garbage. The only reason I know the plot of the movie is because of bits and pieces over the radio. So I tell people that movie is truly horrible because of its horrible audio. Then say it's not really worth the time to watch it because you can barely hear an understand anything that they are saying in the movie. By the way on the DVD their is no subtitles option so you can't even read what they are saying.

  • @domarq
    @domarq 9 месяцев назад +9

    TUBI helped me endure a lot of drama, during a rough time in 2021. Tv shows like: Eddie Murphy's ridiculously, stereotypically-offensive...late 1990's claymation series, "The PJs" (so bad...but funny as hell. And I'm from NYC project housing🤣 ).
    And oh, my goodness. Horror movies like the "VHS" anthology...."As Above, So Below".....and I recently (after avoiding it, for several years) watched and enjoyed "Doctor Sleep". Yeah, they have the cheesy, Blaxploitation films....and they aggressively push "everything gay and lesbian" films....but, you can find a lot of well-known sci-fi, horror and comedy films. Including those you may have skipped, years ago (like me).
    I can endure the agenda-driven advertisements....for all the free content.

  • @hershboystudios
    @hershboystudios 9 месяцев назад +2

    Glad to see another episode from Ramon 🔥

  • @MrHansabianca
    @MrHansabianca 5 месяцев назад +2

    Tubi is the REAL DEAL.
    DON'T SELL THE COMPANY DON'T CHANGE IT. THE FUTURE IS YOURS.

    • @matthewprince9705
      @matthewprince9705 2 месяца назад

      Tubi is owned by the Fox Corporation. The Murdoch family side, not the 20th Century Fox owned by Disney. Tubi is NOT Black owned. They just see the dollars in 21st century Blaxploitation, which is what it is....

  • @tenkeyproductions5246
    @tenkeyproductions5246 9 месяцев назад +6

    Good info and advice Swift!

  • @mikekillagreen9432
    @mikekillagreen9432 9 месяцев назад +2

    Great info!

  • @ryuhayabusa6776
    @ryuhayabusa6776 9 месяцев назад +3

    To my surprise, there are a lot of nice Tubi Originals. And I'm definitely glad to see the platform benefiting minority filmmakers and performers.

  • @DejaVuFilms
    @DejaVuFilms 2 месяца назад

    Great interviews

  • @EllerthePeridot
    @EllerthePeridot 26 дней назад +1

    I enjoy Tubi! I don’t have NF or Hulu anymore. I check Tubi just as often as I do Prime. There’s a wide range of options. I’m partial to shark movies and there are so many😁.
    Plus as he’s explaining, I can see how it is a good platform for newbies to get a foot in and maybe learn how to navigate with a smaller scale that may not be too overwhelming. Similar to how the videos on FC explain making shorts.
    It’s come a long way and I truly mean this sincerely, but I don’t mind AVOD ads if I can “gamble” on a couple of movies during the day while I wfh.

  • @mikekillagreen9432
    @mikekillagreen9432 9 месяцев назад +1

    I love this channel!

  • @CarlMickens
    @CarlMickens 9 месяцев назад +2

    Good information

  • @anhleroy
    @anhleroy 9 месяцев назад +4

    I’m not saying to watch it. But I discovered the film “Terrifier” in Tubi.

  • @visualmindcandymedia2952
    @visualmindcandymedia2952 9 месяцев назад +1

    This was Dope!

  • @billr.2210
    @billr.2210 Месяц назад

    Thank you to Mr. Sloan for imparting such excellent wisdom.

  • @Neeshad22
    @Neeshad22 9 месяцев назад +1

    Divine timing

  • @JaZaarMercury
    @JaZaarMercury 9 месяцев назад +4

    I love watching independent flicks in Tubi

    • @SkyownerRocks
      @SkyownerRocks 8 месяцев назад +2

      Me too.😊😊

    • @entertainmentfan1463
      @entertainmentfan1463 6 месяцев назад +2

      @@SkyownerRocks Same here. There's just something passionate about them that always has me overlooking whatever cheap budget it might be operating at.

  • @geoffhoutman1557
    @geoffhoutman1557 9 месяцев назад +1

    I’m gonna check CIRCUMSTANCES

  • @visionarybrushstroker7694
    @visionarybrushstroker7694 9 месяцев назад +2

    Tubi def a threat right now … I can see it taking over and surpassing Netflix.

    • @entertainmentfan1463
      @entertainmentfan1463 6 месяцев назад

      It will take them a while, but free ad base streaming is definitely growing. They've surpassed and is making more money than standard TV as evidence by Tubi's earning reports. Heck here in Canada, PlutoTV has one of it's best success stories after only 1 year being available in Canada. The platform is currently getting over a billion total minutes watched monthly in Canada alone.

  • @keithmichael112
    @keithmichael112 9 месяцев назад +16

    Tubi has a terrible rep as far as quality though, maybe that will turn around

    • @coutureleotards
      @coutureleotards 9 месяцев назад +12

      I was thinking to myself, Tubi and those memes though. 😂 I don't know I think it's hit or miss right now. You gotta really be passionate about new artists and supporting their work. Those wigs and that guy playing Jesus though smh. Imma wait a few years 😂

    • @ultimatesunrise
      @ultimatesunrise 9 месяцев назад +1

      I'm waiting on a black Jesus movie from Netflix

    • @entertainmentfan1463
      @entertainmentfan1463 6 месяцев назад +1

      Tubi and alot of the free streaming services operate from a "trickle effect" type economy. Basically the good quality and better films and shows attracts people to the service. For example they currently have the Robocop films and the first 2 Terminator films on it and a few months ago had various DC films with the most noticeable one being Batman vs Superman. However they also have a ton of excess content that's meant to get people curious to try out something new or something they heard about, but never watched until now. Apparently it legit does has some success.
      Plus you know what they say "everyone has to start somewhere". Very few new filmmakers get lucky with that multi-million dollar budget movie. Most would be lucky to a movie with just $100,000. So places like Tubi is a good way to let smaller filmmakers get a start on that career.

    • @matthewprince9705
      @matthewprince9705 2 месяца назад

      But knowing economies of scale, sooner or later, TUBI will activate quality control and a lot of Black filmmakers will get cut out. They're gonna have favoured Black production companies capable of making network TV quality movies and cut out the home made stuff.

  • @GhettoFabulousLorch
    @GhettoFabulousLorch 5 месяцев назад

    Seeing Tubi rise and grow has been strangely fascinating.

  • @user-yu6hg8ib8k
    @user-yu6hg8ib8k 9 месяцев назад +2

    I am little bit interested in film industry I love to write and become a big actor and be educat myself how production works

  • @toddpacker1015
    @toddpacker1015 9 месяцев назад +6

    Baki, One Piece and Kengan Ashura are on Netflix so I'll stick with them. Yujiro vs Baki arc it was perfect... perfect down to the last minute detail.

  • @nesijordan145
    @nesijordan145 2 месяца назад

    Truth!

  • @carla-CY-PenArt
    @carla-CY-PenArt 9 месяцев назад +5

    Tubi is crap because they think they are slick view more and you will see the same movie display multi times as if they have more movies.

    • @boboboy8189
      @boboboy8189 9 месяцев назад +7

      At least people have altenative, Netflix has been monopolizing streaming service for the whole decade which is why Netflix became lazy. The only issues with tubi is the quality is still not there, too many dumb script and acting

  • @WintersSoldier
    @WintersSoldier 9 месяцев назад +1

    tubi is great,

  • @AVISIONMUSICTV
    @AVISIONMUSICTV 5 месяцев назад +2

    NETFLIX has a higher quality standard

  • @nupurmotionvintagefilms6172
    @nupurmotionvintagefilms6172 4 месяца назад

    HE'S A PERFECT LOOKALIKE OF FAMOUS WESTINDIES CRICKETER BRIAN LARA. SIMILARITIES ARE SO INSANE.....

  • @lindcobbs4615
    @lindcobbs4615 4 месяца назад

    I’m seriously considering canceling Netflix for Tubi. Tubi has way more movies categories I like than Netflix. I’m a huge fan of paranormal movies, strange events,true events, western especially black western, apocalyptic and situational dramas which Netflix is lacking. Even Fawesome have some decent flux’s from time to time. I barely watch Netflix since I discovered Tubi and Fawesome.

  • @brandonr5204
    @brandonr5204 9 месяцев назад +1

    Fox bought Tubi that’s why it’s blowing up

    • @entertainmentfan1463
      @entertainmentfan1463 6 месяцев назад

      It was the best investment they made. Legit makes them over a billion dollars a year and is making them more money than all the other Fox channels combined.

  • @3ngan498
    @3ngan498 9 месяцев назад +2

    ...Tubi?
    As much as I love independent movie, I don't give a damn about another platform

  • @newharlemrenaissanceproduc943
    @newharlemrenaissanceproduc943 3 месяца назад +1

    Tubi has NOTHING to do with strong storylines. The films on that platform are evidence of what happens when there are absolutely no gatekeepers. True it opens up doors for filmmakers who cant get their films on a Netflix or Amazon or Hulu but there is a massive downside to it

    • @BREEZE247able
      @BREEZE247able 17 дней назад

      What is it?

    • @newharlemrenaissanceproduc943
      @newharlemrenaissanceproduc943 17 дней назад

      @@BREEZE247able In my opinion, it is very easy for your film to get lost in the cesspool of films on that site becaue Tubi is all about quantity over quality. You have to have a STRONG marketing/PR plan to get your film seen over all the trash that they dump on that site, not to mention the negative connotation that will be attached to your film, sight unseen, simply because of tubis reputation of the quality of films that they put on their site as opposed to a Netflix or a Hulu. Im not saying it cant be done, but it is difficult