I wasn't clear---the missing coils were not inside the iPad. This iPad first went to a local shop who ruled out bad screen. It was sent to us for logic board repair as a logic board in the back housing. Christy put on her test screen and confirmed that it did not turn on, and then she noticed the missing coils. The device was then put in my queue for advanced troubleshooting. I hope that clears up why this job wasn't as easy as just soldering on the missing coils. In addition, you can see that the coils were broken so we would not have been able to measure them anyway--the metal fastener edge of the coils were still soldered onto the board.
I was wondering about that myself - that the inductors must be in there somewhere. I am not used to people calling them coils but I knew what you meant.I am working on 2 Kindle Fire 777 tablets right now that kids shorted out by trying to use the worn out charge ports. I replaced a couple of diodes and the TVS diode, but the battery still will not charge. So I had to guess which shield to pull in order to find the charging chip, BQ24296M. Luckily I guessed correctly, but caused a tiny 0201 resistor to disappear into the Chip Quik while removing the shield. Fortunately I have the other tablet for reference. I am still learning SMD soldering, and I have some hot tweezers coming soon.
hi jessa/rehab, thanks for all the repair videos. out of curiosity, what smartphone would you recommend to an average Jo(e) and the number one reason for it? what phone would you get if you have to keep it for next 10-20 years? cheers :)
no no! you had been super clear and Im high as duck! lol! thank you, I will start gather my tools to do this as I was just taking it as something to see that relaxes me. Ty
I opened a repair shop in January 2019 in Italy. I'm 57 years old. in the evening after dinner I watch videos of micro-welded repairers. it's exciting, too bad not to be able to buy a suitable microscope. I hope to earn enough to buy it in a short time. thank you so much Jessa. ah I forgot, I don't speak English so thanks to google translator. 😊🙏
I do PC repair and config/build in the Hudson Valley, NY. People ask me quite frequently about their non-functioning Apple products. Until I learn more I send/give them info for you and Louis. Thanks for all you do. I support right to repair.
ONCE AGAIN YOU SAVE ANOTHER OF MY PHONES! I saved my 6+ for a similar issue in that because of “bending” it messed up something to were the screen will come on but will not respond to touch until I , I could slightly bend the phone until something lined up perfectly to finally respond. I knew it wasn’t unrepairable as I was told. I still enjoy the 6 to this day and NOW I see your video explains everything! Thank you for taking the time and effort to record and share your obvious expertise! YOU ROCK! ✌🏻🙂
Love this. I think about how appliances are readily repairable. In fact, I had a problem with my Whirlpool Duet washer recently. I found support online from the manufacturer about how to troubleshoot it. When I opened the required panel, inside I found sealed in a plastic bag instruction on how to troubleshoot the fault codes the washer generated. It has an exploded parts diagram as well as a wiring schematic. All provided by the manufacturer. Granted, anyone with a screwdriver and a 10 lbs hammer could repair it given these instructions where a device with components 100 or 1000x smaller is far more specialist, it should still be available to those that have the ability to do so.
Dr. Burdett - thank you for your video! I'm an Android user but I do believe in the same principles of the RtR. Keep fighting the good fight, stay strong!
This was a real impressive and eye opening video, Jessa! I actually learned quite a bit about a lot of different things going on with these devices, the difficulties that third party repair facilities, like iPad Rehab and others, have in getting technical information and not being able to easily get either quality third party parts or OEM parts. The mining aspect of these basic minerals to make these types of devices was a shocker with using very young child labor ( that was really appalling using very young and very small children to work in these very tight, close quarters and dangerous mining tunnels ).and The info you supplied on the right to repair electronic devices was very interesting and illuminating, as well. I don't like throwing away electronics, either and probably why I hang onto smaller, older electronics I have purchased over the years that no longer work. I do not know what Apple actually does to “recycle” these devices to be able to recycle parts and materials, though. I know they use recycled materials for some things and some of the obvious parts that make up these devices seem to get properly recycled, but I am not sure about all the board level stuff and materials inside the LCD panel, itself. I really hope these devicd makers DO NOT simply send the device innards to get shredded and basically waste whatever parts and materials that could be truly recycled simply just get crushed up into something else or get crushed up small enough to end up in a landfill somewhere. Don't know too much about what percentage these computing devices truly get recycled for reuse in some fashion. In addition, I am learning things about small board scale electronics that I think , at my age, I am actually getting to learn a little about, as well. Really good video, Jessa
It was sent board in back housing, so ask USPS. Once a student brought a phone all the way from New Zealand and it had a popped off coil. The coil was resting right next to the spot. He was pretty sheepish that he came halfway around to world and this one was “why don’t you solder this guy back in that spot. Solved”
I support what you do, why do they make so hard for people to repair their stuff. C suckers Theres OEM and aftermarket / cheaper parts on cars. why not on these phones and pads. I wonder. YOU CLEARLY demonstrate that its doable. and your very profesional about it. Thumb Up.
Coming from related field,in the past life I was trained and completed a radio & tv mechanics trade in those days,the 60-ties I am talking about, We had at our disposal all the relevant schematic information and I can tell you it was easy and fun to work within electronic industries. So now I can see how frustrating it is for you to try and fix the current stream of new products. There in lies the problem,for the manufacturers and consumers of this products to have a constant flow of sales and stream of $ earnings so Apple will not allow you to have the info,because every iPhone,iPad,iPod you fix there goes 500-1000 $ out of their pocket. By the way I have an iPad I bought in 2011 and it is working just fine after all this years. I am a fan of Apple products but I do not change them very often. Just a year ago I changed iPhone 4 witch is still operational,with iPhone 6s and am still learning. This technology has run me over and mentally can not keep up with it. Your videos are a fun to watch as I can relate to your frustrations at times.
In the old days schematic used to be included in some devices like tv's. As long as the customer will not demand schematic when buying the device there is nothing to do (force them to provide if not they won't buy). Thank you for sharing.
Jessa i just love your way of doing things, If i was not so old i would love to join your classes. would these senators or legislators be happy scrapping there cars if they got a puncture, so why cant they accept the right to repair. Love to you from the UK keep up the great work.
Love your videos... Also I am watching you video in Portugal and I was pleased that you friend just had a holiday here and hoje she like it... ... Apologies for the spelling
I just have a question : where are the inductances gone? If they have popped out of the bended board, they should be roaming inside the case, don't they? You could resolder them or replace them or find their references and order them easily (or salvage them from another board), can't you? That said, I am a new and delighted subscriber. Keep up with defending the right to repair. Your point on saving our resources (and then refusing planned obsolescence) is THE key in a world where Geology says that they are constrained.
I agree with you. I discuss with some people in America about recycling and repairing. They told me that if they recycle and repair their products the economy will slow down. For them that is the most important thing.
Hey, Jessa, I love watching you fight The Good Fight. I have an audio-production tip, if I may: Your microphone level drops abruptly to silence when you stop speaking. Although removing background noise is a laudable goal, sharp cutoffs like these tend to sound harsh and unnatural. I don't know the details of your audio signal chain, but I would guess that the cutoff is caused by a noise gate that's set to attenuate to minus infinity or some other extreme value. If you have control over these parameters, try setting them to attenuate only 12-20dB. You can also make the transition more gradual. This will clean up the signal during quiet passages while still leaving some 'comfort noise' that provides continuity for the listener. You could also try adding high- and low-pass filters before the gate to remove rumble and hiss. Active noise reduction might also prove useful if applied judiciously. Often, the trick to effective noise reduction is splitting the workload across a chain of processes. Divide and conquer!
Of course, putting a microphone right up to your pie hole is the surest and purest way to increase your signal-to-noise ratio, and doing so dramatically reduces the need for gates and other noise-reducing processors. That's why Louis and others use head-worn mics.
Hi Jessa, love your videos as well as Louis and Sorin in England. Just wondering about the Aening Q1 DMM. How’s the battery life on it? I’m a multimeter geek and own quite a variety of DMM and analog old school Triplett and Simpson. Looks like a cool little inexpensive meter. I repair old tube and analog audio gear but have been venturing more into small smd digital stuff more and more. Thanks for all you do and share. I’m not to far from you actually, near Corning NY.
I was raised by a single mother who had two other kids besides myself, on welfare. So money was often tight. We only threw things away when something was something was beyond repair or reusability. Adding to the fact that my grandparent/s grew up post-WW2--and had a "waste not, want not" mindset. It doesn't matter whether it's electronics, or clothing. We're a family of tinkerers and DIY-ers. It's kind of rubbed off onto my little niece as well. So I definitely support "Right to Repair".
wow the other day also 10.5 this happened to me where the coils where just like loose coming out very bad solder , ive seen this twice , maybe a issue on these devices, it was displaying then not displaying , then rebooting etc , was crazy stuff :D nice video
After looking through your amazing videos, I was still wondering if there was ever a fix to the old side smart connector? Everything I find say it is a wi-fi issue, but I had two iPad Pros used in the exact same environment, and only one stopped working.
From my experience one should resolder any and all points along the circuit and check it after since bending can cause a cold solder joint to break and cause intermittent connections but not be obvious.
thank you for the info very hard to find, I have a ipad air for 3 years and still do not know how to use it. do not have the time to play with it my wife gave up . I use windows so do not know apple. I still did not throw it yet
Great video, as always. But you should put the links in the description if you want more people to read the articles you are talking about - or did I miss it?
This iPad was sent board in back housing-I wasn’t clear that the repair began with Christy’s test screen on it where she had verified that it didn’t seem to turn on and she noticed the missing coils and passed it up to me.
Did you keep the original coils that fell off? Even a $7 component tester can tell you if your replacement is the same part or not, provided there's enough nub left to measure the original, though the "proper" tool would be an LCR meter.
Yes-I can see now that it was unclear. This iPad arrived on my desk with Christy’s test screen on it. She had checked it in and verified that it was dead and she saw the missing coils and turfed it up to my queue. I didn’t want to be misleading about how easy it was to remove her test screen in the video, but I don’t think I made it clear that this iPad had been opened back at the first shop who would have confirmed this wasn’t a simple bad lcd Repair.
As a electronics designer, I know the missing coils in the power rails can be jumpered over in a pinch. They’re not doing anything but providing a pole in a filter to a chip that already has a ton of filtering around it.
Hello I have an unrelated question.. You seem very knowledgeable so thought youd know Are replacement iphones that are exchanged under warranty Brand new or refurbished? Serial number starts with N
They would have still been there at the first shop. It was sent to us as board in back housing dead iPad. I wasn’t clear that this repair began with the iPad on my desk with Christy’s test screen on it
Presumably the components which popped off the board were still inside of the iPad since it hadn't been opened. Weren't you able to find them and identify what they were? Or even reattach them as they were possibly still working? It's at least necessary to be sure they aren't in there as they're a short waiting to happen otherwise.
I must not have been clear-It was sent board in back housing and had Christy’s test screen on it when I began. If the components had been there then this would not have made it to the video desk because it would have been straightforward. The main point of the video is that it was not straightforward because we had no way to identify the missing components.
@@JessaJonesh, ok, I'm with you now. Sorry, you probably did make that clear. I'm running on empty following a bad night with my babies! I totally agree with the argument for the right to repair. Apple's insistence that us actually PAYING for our phones doesn't mean we can do what we like with them is so ridiculous. If I've paid for a house I can decorate the interior any way I want. If I've bought a washing machine I can put whatever I want into the drum, so why when I've bought an iPhone am I not entitled to put a screwdriver or soldering iron inside it? I actually love Apple devices but I'm now using an Asus PC, a Huawei Honor 10 and a Huawei T1 tablet as I'm fed up of the Apple eco-system. Their desire to control their devices after they have left their hands is insane and their unwillingness to help out people who have actually bought goods from them is such a joke. All we really need is the right to repair bill to pass in one state, then Apple have 3 choices. Either stop selling in that state, sell a device with a state specific layout on the motherboard so the schematic only applies in that state or realise that people have the right to repair and release schematics worldwide.
I did not quite follow why a list of parts values for the IPad Pro was not already available somewhere. I would have figured that by now someone or some company would have already gone through and measured everything and made available for free or for a fee.
While I applaud the work you, Louis, and others have done wrt RtR legislation, I think companies like Apple can fairly easily counter it via firmware shenanigans, like they're in the process of implementing with the dreaded T2 chip in MacBooks. And all this is assuming the legislation isn't passed in a watered-down, toothless form. Apple isn't going to surrender their chokehold on the parts and schematics market without one helluva fight. And they will do everything legal AND illegal to further cement their position and protect what they consider to be their Holy Grail IPs. This isn't a David vs. Goliath situation, but a David vs. Thanos one. I think the day is fast approaching where anything beyond a quick ribbon or wire replacement won't be possible with new Apple products. Louis already can't source replacement MacBook displays because they don't come with the necessary EDID codes and was forced to resell the stock he had as useless oddities. And relying on donor parts is a very janky way to provide repair service. And now there are troubling signs that Samsung might be going down a similar route. If Android-based devices start mirroring their iOS counterparts wrt the lack of purchasable parts and overall serviceability, it'll be a dark day, indeed.
Yes, very important. Jumping it would likely fry whatever is downstream. The power management chip is outputting a square wave, that's (say) 0V half of the time and 4V half of the time. It's the inductor's job to smooth that out into 2V all of the time. If the downstream component is something sensitive like the CPU, the 4V even for an instant could destroy it.
I'm speaking totally as a none tech person here. Would it be possible, using one or more working units of each type of iPad, to create your own schematics? Now this may not be complete, but really, based on experience with what fails most, schematics of those areas. Even if it means, for instance, if a coil has no markings, indicate what it reads, then find comparable coils that read the same. I'm thinking the answer will be "no, it would take too long, be too expensive in terms of ripped apart devices, be unreliable if any guessing has to take place", but it's just a thought.
90% of the time iPhone 6 plugs in to charger, starts charging, says "this accessory may not be supported. Dismiss", stops charging. Solution please bro?
@@Spamhard Using a generic 12v cigarette Asian made car charger. I have a USB ammeter inline. Only when it reaches about 200mA in 3 sec does the iPhone allow itself to stay charging. Less than 200mA and iPhone stops charging with error msg. Yet my android phones charge 100% of the time!? Why!?!?!?
@@christothegreat1 I'm no expert so if anyone like Jessa can chip in on the technicals, please do, but I know Apple products can be really weird about you not using licensed products, to the extent where your phone just won't accept them as existing in some cases. Might be some technical issue behind this or the firmware? No idea, someone else will def know. There's been lawsuits about it in the past, Apple will only allow certain products to be used, an unsurprisingly the only products they like are the ones that have to pay apple a subsid every time their product sells. Most androids, on the other hand, don't seem to give a shit what product you use. (Although I'd still be careful with the hella cheap shit anyway.)
I worked in the consumer electronics trade for most of my life. Manufactures made their reputation on supplying circuit diagrams and components so their equipment could be repaired. I knew I could phone Sony (Just as an example ) would happily send me things I needed to repair their products. Equally if I wanted to repair an appliance from say Russel Hobbs or Kenwood I could buy them form a rep who might even carry the parts in his car. Yes the days of simple repairs has gone and it is our right to restore this omission from manufactures of today. One point I would also make was Sony used to carry spares or order them even if he product was discontinued.
Unless you mean those EMI filter caps (aka feedthrough caps, essentially a combination of a inductor and a capacitor to ground, forming a LPF), caps and inductors usually both have two pads.
Thank you thank you thank you SO much for including the idea of sustainability!! I think it's really important to keep in mind the severe damage that is done to people and environment to win the necessary rare earths just so new devices can be produced at a whim. It sadly seems that modern society has become fond of "simply" disposing of things so they can get newer versions. Your car is no longer perfect after a few years? But a brand new one! You're bored of what your living room looks like? Just throw your perfectly fine furniture and decorations out in the trash and buy new stuff. You're annoyed by having to clean your kitty's dishes all the time? Just use paper plates and throw them away after every meal. Your contractual binding to your cell phone company is running out and your phone is two years old already? Good gracious, time to get the latest model! I'm seeing it time and again, and it really bothers me. This just can't be right. We're already ruining this world as best we can, and the ever growing throwaway society is contributing hugely. I'm a big supporter of the idea of sustainability and reusing things wherever possible, and so I'm very thankful you've stressed this idea so much in your video. Kudos to you!
You do such great work. Is it me or is it the guy at Apple Insider a JAckass? did you see our tweets? He seems to keep flip flopping and talking out his ass. Editorial?? More like a blog.
It seems to me the missing components must still be in the case, how could them have gotten out if they just popped off by bending the case. They didn’t evaporate
The big money hungry companies pay a lot to representatives and senators at State and Federal levels to get their way clear ! If one or two States get this right to repair bill to pass others will follow and then Congress will follow to. I support the efforts of the repair community and that of the owners of these products to be able to repair or get them repaired at a authorized or independently own repair facility . Keep the pressure on Jessa ,Louis and IFixit !
One time, With my ford f350, I was following a SEMI, and a rock came flying out from under the semi and landed into my windshield and it cracked and chipped it. I bought another truck.
Most of the innovation from Apple seems to be inside the silicon for these products, these would not be represented on a schematic. So sharing a schematic should not cause a problem. Also you’ll probably find that a competitor can recreate most of the schematic through taking one apart and following where power flows, etc.
32:33 there isn't an issue in any other country its just the U.S. having this issue with Apple. I think the U.S. are behind with the times. We have something called the ACCC, it is way in Australia and the EU that Apple are forced to provide a 2 year warranty on ALL there products in Australi as standard. Apple Care in Australia is a waste of money because we have these options. Right to repair at least in Australia isn't something that bothers us because if Apple do not provide a free repair or replacement the ACCC will force them to and the customer will always win.
It’s funny (to me anyway) that although Apple keep deleting your posts from the Apple Community Forum, and you’ve been banned umpteen times, all of your RUclips videos start with an Apple advertisement...
That was cool to watch...life brought back to a iPad. It's like magic but I know without Apple's help it's just luck sometimes. Keep up the great work. I don't understand why Apple wants to do this to its customers. Seriously who is going to make apple knockoffs...
@@cardboardboxification hill billy I do remember Toyota called back a million on cars for brakes flaw, Toyota had the courage to acknowlegde the flaw, because out of tens of millions cas only a million had a problem. For Ipad there is an evidence that the flaw is bend related, then apple should at least discharge the repair or provide spare ships.
Dzlyesful how much is a iPad Pro $1200... some people are careless, and don’t respect nothing , they bend it... water damage it, Apple didn’t bend it.. Most people are not going to spend $1500 on equipment to work on their own iPad... Anything can be repaired.... No one will fix a tv 3 year old for $500 when a new one is $1000.. A $100,000 le croy oscilloscope is board replacement only.... Very few manufacture would do a board repair... they would then have to warranty the entire board not just the repair... and test it to ensure it is completely working, it’s cheaper and less time to pick up a new board off the pick and place machine and install it... If she wants to repair a product with no information, she will have to buy a few, and use one for voltage and ohm reference , and use the other for component measurements with the part removed ... Even my $40,000 new price signal generator has NO schematics ... I got it for $100 and fixed it... Did your tv come with a schismatic? The days of sams schematics has been over for years for consumer goods.. A lot of products have custom components , you can’t get info on it , much less buy one...
Love your videos and I fully agree with right to repair ..however please forgive one little nitpick, the plural of Lego is Lego, not Legos. (a lot of Americans tend not to know that, no offence intended)
@@JessaJones Lego themselves, they tweeted this a good time ago, I quote "LEGO is always an adjective. So LEGO bricks, LEGO elements, LEGO sets, etc. Never, ever "legos." :)
@@8-bitsteve500 Sorry, a single company doesn't get to define language. Legos is most definitely plural of lego and it is a noun. Language is defined by usage and agreement. Ask any child what is this? "A lego" and those are? "Legos"
Wouldn't it be possible to find the schematics via a Chinese iPad Pro clone in Shenzhen? I know its not ideal, but China doesn't play by the same rules Apple would like it to play.
If the schematics were available anywhere in the world, they would instantly be available everywhere in the world. That has been the case with the other devices
Here's what pisses me off about this issue. If I buy a car, I can find parts and repair it or get a "third party" aka a mechanic, to fix it. Why? Because I bought it, I own it, it's my car to do what I want with. If I buy a fridge, I can get it repaired anyway I want. However If i spend 3k on a laptop (which in some cases is more expensive then the car or a fridge) apple gives the finger and says nope, we won't let you get it fixed, even though you own that device. This makes no sense other then Apple wants more money. This should be illegal, it has been in the car industry for decades. The whole argument about "computers are more sensitive blah blah" is bull. Cars now a days have computers built into them, they track where you've been and are going, but I can still fix them if I wanna buy the parts and do the labor my self. Why can't I fix my computer, or get someone who actually understands it more then the idiots at the genius bar? It's simply my money my product simple as that.
Couldn’t you just open up another iPad of the same model and see what was supposed to be in that spot? Maybe recycle thrown out and broke iPads for spare parts like cars?
As long as companies like Apple fight against Right to Repair; states should charge them at least 100% of their MSRP for the device OR for them to go into the landfills or for recycling costs. They would be sent a bill at the end of each quarter/year. They wouldn't be able to raise their rates because the fee would equally increase for them; and they would lose customers left and right; they would have no option but to capitulate.
13:29 Even if the schematic was detailed enough to allow someone to reproduce an exact and functioning iPad copy, and they could program the chips with a functional OS and software, it would end up being FAR too expensive for anyone to bother with. To keep costs down, they'd have to do huge production runs, and be able to guarantee sales of 100% of the knock-off product. Schematics do not include internals of ICs, let alone programmable components. There is no logic to holding on to a schematic because someone would copy it, any more than there is for hiding the blueprints to your house so no one can build an identical one.
This. Not to mention there's plenty of cheap knock offs of Apple products (and everything else), with or without the schematics available. If someone wants to cheaply copy it, they'll copy it, schematics have nothing to do with that.
I wasn't clear---the missing coils were not inside the iPad. This iPad first went to a local shop who ruled out bad screen. It was sent to us for logic board repair as a logic board in the back housing. Christy put on her test screen and confirmed that it did not turn on, and then she noticed the missing coils. The device was then put in my queue for advanced troubleshooting. I hope that clears up why this job wasn't as easy as just soldering on the missing coils. In addition, you can see that the coils were broken so we would not have been able to measure them anyway--the metal fastener edge of the coils were still soldered onto the board.
I was wondering about that myself - that the inductors must be in there somewhere. I am not used to people calling them coils but I knew what you meant.I am working on 2 Kindle Fire 777 tablets right now that kids shorted out by trying to use the worn out charge ports. I replaced a couple of diodes and the TVS diode, but the battery still will not charge. So I had to guess which shield to pull in order to find the charging chip, BQ24296M.
Luckily I guessed correctly, but caused a tiny 0201 resistor to disappear into the Chip Quik while removing the shield. Fortunately I have the other tablet for reference.
I am still learning SMD soldering, and I have some hot tweezers coming soon.
Sorry I spoke too soon.
hi jessa/rehab, thanks for all the repair videos. out of curiosity, what smartphone would you recommend to an average Jo(e) and the number one reason for it? what phone would you get if you have to keep it for next 10-20 years? cheers :)
no no! you had been super clear and Im high as duck! lol! thank you, I will start gather my tools to do this as I was just taking it as something to see that relaxes me. Ty
Keep fighting for the right to repair for all of us Jessa! Thanks for never giving up.
@@Djlovehouse You must be an Apple employe...
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By your post, you’re fighting for an education in democracy... just sayin’
I opened a repair shop in January 2019 in Italy. I'm 57 years old. in the evening after dinner I watch videos of micro-welded repairers. it's exciting, too bad not to be able to buy a suitable microscope. I hope to earn enough to buy it in a short time. thank you so much Jessa. ah I forgot, I don't speak English so thanks to google translator. 😊🙏
I do PC repair and config/build in the Hudson Valley, NY. People ask me quite frequently about their non-functioning Apple products. Until I learn more I send/give them info for you and Louis. Thanks for all you do. I support right to repair.
I couldn't agree more!!!! Thanks for spreading the word Jessa!! And also thanks for all you do.
ONCE AGAIN YOU SAVE ANOTHER OF MY PHONES!
I saved my 6+ for a similar issue in that because of “bending” it messed up something to were the screen will come on but will not respond to touch until I , I could slightly bend the phone until something lined up perfectly to finally respond. I knew it wasn’t unrepairable as I was told. I still enjoy the 6 to this day and NOW I see your video explains everything!
Thank you for taking the time and effort to record and share your obvious expertise!
YOU ROCK! ✌🏻🙂
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Louis Rossmann video and I loved it!! Congratulations for your achievements and your drive. You're a great inspiration!
Watching this vid you lose track of time it's so involved and the knowledge you pass over invaluable. Cheers
Love this. I think about how appliances are readily repairable. In fact, I had a problem with my Whirlpool Duet washer recently. I found support online from the manufacturer about how to troubleshoot it. When I opened the required panel, inside I found sealed in a plastic bag instruction on how to troubleshoot the fault codes the washer generated. It has an exploded parts diagram as well as a wiring schematic. All provided by the manufacturer. Granted, anyone with a screwdriver and a 10 lbs hammer could repair it given these instructions where a device with components 100 or 1000x smaller is far more specialist, it should still be available to those that have the ability to do so.
Dr. Burdett - thank you for your video! I'm an Android user but I do believe in the same principles of the RtR. Keep fighting the good fight, stay strong!
I like your pedagogic approach
This was a real impressive and eye opening video, Jessa! I actually learned quite a bit about a lot of different things going on with these devices, the difficulties that third party repair facilities, like iPad Rehab and others, have in getting technical information and not being able to easily get either quality third party parts or OEM parts.
The mining aspect of these basic minerals to make these types of devices was a shocker with using very young child labor ( that was really appalling using very young and very small children to work in these very tight, close quarters and dangerous mining tunnels ).and
The info you supplied on the right to repair electronic devices was very interesting and illuminating, as well.
I don't like throwing away electronics, either and probably why I hang onto smaller, older electronics I have purchased over the years that no longer work.
I do not know what Apple actually does to “recycle” these devices to be able to recycle parts and materials, though.
I know they use recycled materials for some things and some of the obvious parts that make up these devices seem to get properly recycled,
but I am not sure about all the board level stuff and materials inside the LCD panel, itself.
I really hope these devicd makers DO NOT simply send the device innards to get shredded and basically waste whatever parts and materials that could be truly recycled simply just get crushed up into something else or get crushed up small enough to end up in a landfill somewhere.
Don't know too much about what percentage these computing devices truly get recycled for reuse in some fashion.
In addition, I am learning things about small board scale electronics that I think , at my age, I am actually getting to learn a little about, as well.
Really good video, Jessa
fantastic work i don't own any apple products but the fact that i love fixing my own stuff i find this channel a real joy
Why weren’t the chips that popped off the board still inside the iPad?
It was sent board in back housing, so ask USPS. Once a student brought a phone all the way from New Zealand and it had a popped off coil. The coil was resting right next to the spot. He was pretty sheepish that he came halfway around to world and this one was “why don’t you solder this guy back in that spot. Solved”
@@JessaJones a kiwi being sheepish. That is hilarious
I just asked the exact same question and discovered yours afterwards. Next time I'll read more comments, promise! :)
I support what you do, why do they make so hard for people to repair their stuff. C suckers
Theres OEM and aftermarket / cheaper parts on cars. why not on these phones and pads. I wonder.
YOU CLEARLY demonstrate that its doable. and your very profesional about it. Thumb Up.
and saving the environment one ipad and iphone at a time.
Coming from related field,in the past life I was trained and completed a radio & tv mechanics trade in those days,the 60-ties I am talking about,
We had at our disposal all the relevant schematic information and I can tell you it was easy and fun to work within electronic industries.
So now I can see how frustrating it is for you to try and fix the current stream of new products. There in lies the problem,for the manufacturers and consumers of this products to have a constant flow of sales and stream of $ earnings so Apple will not allow you to have the info,because every iPhone,iPad,iPod you fix there goes 500-1000 $ out of their pocket.
By the way I have an iPad I bought in 2011 and it is working just fine after all this years. I am a fan of Apple products but I do not change them very often. Just a year ago I changed iPhone 4 witch is still operational,with iPhone 6s and am still learning. This technology has run me over and mentally can not keep up with it.
Your videos are a fun to watch as I can relate to your frustrations at times.
Have you considered taking high res Picts of known good boards to assist in part recognition when troubleshooting non-schematic available items?
In the old days schematic used to be included in some devices like tv's. As long as the customer will not demand schematic when buying the device there is nothing to do (force them to provide if not they won't buy).
Thank you for sharing.
Your english is very well spoken, I can understand you without subtitles. Thanks for the video!
Thanks, I've been working on it for 45 years :)
I think he meant that she speaks in an eloquent way that is clear and easy to understand.
She speaks beautiful English.
7:30 , not only on ipad, basically anything with battery, including vehicle.. thank you for your great contents..
Jessa i just love your way of doing things, If i was not so old i would love to join your classes. would these senators or legislators be happy scrapping there cars if they got a puncture, so why cant they accept the right to repair. Love to you from the UK keep up the great work.
Love your videos... Also I am watching you video in Portugal and I was pleased that you friend just had a holiday here and hoje she like it... ... Apologies for the spelling
I just have a question : where are the inductances gone? If they have popped out of the bended board, they should be roaming inside the case, don't they? You could resolder them or replace them or find their references and order them easily (or salvage them from another board), can't you?
That said, I am a new and delighted subscriber. Keep up with defending the right to repair. Your point on saving our resources (and then refusing planned obsolescence) is THE key in a world where Geology says that they are constrained.
Question already asked, answer already given. My bad. Will read comments more extensively next time. Apologies.
I agree with you. I discuss with some people in America about recycling and repairing. They told me that if they recycle and repair their products the economy will slow down. For them that is the most important thing.
Thanks for ALL you do
Hey, Jessa, I love watching you fight The Good Fight.
I have an audio-production tip, if I may: Your microphone level drops abruptly to silence when you stop speaking. Although removing background noise is a laudable goal, sharp cutoffs like these tend to sound harsh and unnatural. I don't know the details of your audio signal chain, but I would guess that the cutoff is caused by a noise gate that's set to attenuate to minus infinity or some other extreme value. If you have control over these parameters, try setting them to attenuate only 12-20dB. You can also make the transition more gradual. This will clean up the signal during quiet passages while still leaving some 'comfort noise' that provides continuity for the listener. You could also try adding high- and low-pass filters before the gate to remove rumble and hiss. Active noise reduction might also prove useful if applied judiciously. Often, the trick to effective noise reduction is splitting the workload across a chain of processes. Divide and conquer!
Of course, putting a microphone right up to your pie hole is the surest and purest way to increase your signal-to-noise ratio, and doing so dramatically reduces the need for gates and other noise-reducing processors. That's why Louis and others use head-worn mics.
Just to be clear, I'm picking at nits, here. Your audio quality is usually just fine.
Great video, as per usual. I'm a huge fan of your work. Just for total transparency how much would you usually charge for this type of repair?
Hi Jessa, love your videos as well as Louis and Sorin in England. Just wondering about the Aening Q1 DMM. How’s the battery life on it? I’m a multimeter geek and own quite a variety of DMM and analog old school Triplett and Simpson. Looks like a cool little inexpensive meter. I repair old tube and analog audio gear but have been venturing more into small smd digital stuff more and more. Thanks for all you do and share. I’m not to far from you actually, near Corning NY.
I was raised by a single mother who had two other kids besides myself, on welfare. So money was often tight. We only threw things away when something was something was beyond repair or reusability. Adding to the fact that my grandparent/s grew up post-WW2--and had a "waste not, want not" mindset. It doesn't matter whether it's electronics, or clothing. We're a family of tinkerers and DIY-ers. It's kind of rubbed off onto my little niece as well. So I definitely support "Right to Repair".
wow the other day also 10.5 this happened to me where the coils where just like loose coming out very bad solder , ive seen this twice , maybe a issue on these devices, it was displaying then not displaying , then rebooting etc , was crazy stuff :D nice video
After looking through your amazing videos, I was still wondering if there was ever a fix to the old side smart connector? Everything I find say it is a wi-fi issue, but I had two iPad Pros used in the exact same environment, and only one stopped working.
From my experience one should resolder any and all points along the circuit and check it after since bending can cause a cold solder joint to break and cause intermittent connections but not be obvious.
thank you for the info very hard to find, I have a ipad air for 3 years and still do not know how to use it. do not have the time to play with it my wife gave up . I use windows so do not know apple. I still did not throw it yet
Great video, as always. But you should put the links in the description if you want more people to read the articles you are talking about - or did I miss it?
Our country need to crack down on companies monopolies. 😡
I stopped buying Apple products after jobs died and I'm glad now that I've been watching these videos.
21:54 Christie's got good taste! Greetings from Portugal ;)
PORTUGAL CARALHO
Where did the other coils go? Didnt you find them in the device?
Where did those coils go, they should have still been there when you opened it?
This iPad was sent board in back housing-I wasn’t clear that the repair began with Christy’s test screen on it where she had verified that it didn’t seem to turn on and she noticed the missing coils and passed it up to me.
I would kind of like to see you expand in surface devices. There is a big market.
These videos need to be seen by everyone who's ever owned an Apple product!
Did you keep the original coils that fell off? Even a $7 component tester can tell you if your replacement is the same part or not, provided there's enough nub left to measure the original, though the "proper" tool would be an LCR meter.
They were gone -this was sent board in back housing.
@@JessaJones i have heard you use this term a couple times now in the comment section, what does "board in back housing." mean?
Ace I would assume logic board in the back aluminum housing... without the lcd
@@JessaJones Ah, I was led a bit astray by the comment about taking the screen off the first time being more difficult.
Yes-I can see now that it was unclear. This iPad arrived on my desk with Christy’s test screen on it. She had checked it in and verified that it was dead and she saw the missing coils and turfed it up to my queue. I didn’t want to be misleading about how easy it was to remove her test screen in the video, but I don’t think I made it clear that this iPad had been opened back at the first shop who would have confirmed this wasn’t a simple bad lcd Repair.
So glad I got out of repair in the early 2000's sickens me the way stuff is made these days, anything to hinder you not to mention planned failures.
As a electronics designer, I know the missing coils in the power rails can be jumpered over in a pinch. They’re not doing anything but providing a pole in a filter to a chip that already has a ton of filtering around it.
Hello I have an unrelated question.. You seem very knowledgeable so thought youd know
Are replacement iphones that are exchanged under warranty Brand new or refurbished?
Serial number starts with N
Always refurbished--unless it is less than 14 days or if the phone is newly released and they don't have any refurbs yet.
I see .. Do you know if its too soon for iPhone XRs too be refurbished?
@@hussainasad93 Too soon? That phone has been out for more than half a year!
Did those inductor coils fall off from within the chassis when you open the ipad? Just curious...
They would have still been there at the first shop. It was sent to us as board in back housing dead iPad. I wasn’t clear that this repair began with the iPad on my desk with Christy’s test screen on it
Presumably the components which popped off the board were still inside of the iPad since it hadn't been opened. Weren't you able to find them and identify what they were? Or even reattach them as they were possibly still working? It's at least necessary to be sure they aren't in there as they're a short waiting to happen otherwise.
I must not have been clear-It was sent board in back housing and had Christy’s test screen on it when I began. If the components had been there then this would not have made it to the video desk because it would have been straightforward. The main point of the video is that it was not straightforward because we had no way to identify the missing components.
@@JessaJonesh, ok, I'm with you now. Sorry, you probably did make that clear. I'm running on empty following a bad night with my babies! I totally agree with the argument for the right to repair. Apple's insistence that us actually PAYING for our phones doesn't mean we can do what we like with them is so ridiculous. If I've paid for a house I can decorate the interior any way I want. If I've bought a washing machine I can put whatever I want into the drum, so why when I've bought an iPhone am I not entitled to put a screwdriver or soldering iron inside it? I actually love Apple devices but I'm now using an Asus PC, a Huawei Honor 10 and a Huawei T1 tablet as I'm fed up of the Apple eco-system. Their desire to control their devices after they have left their hands is insane and their unwillingness to help out people who have actually bought goods from them is such a joke. All we really need is the right to repair bill to pass in one state, then Apple have 3 choices. Either stop selling in that state, sell a device with a state specific layout on the motherboard so the schematic only applies in that state or realise that people have the right to repair and release schematics worldwide.
I did not quite follow why a list of parts values for the IPad Pro was not already available somewhere. I would have figured that by now someone or some company would have already gone through and measured everything and made available for free or for a fee.
I’m wondering what the cost of a repair like that cos-isht?
Wait? No Haynes or Chiltons for Apples? I wonder whom will jump into that market if/when this passes? Great video and amazing work?
What about the old days. Repair techs could buy books of schematics to tv, eletronics etc! The company was SAMS
Weren't the three missing coils still inside the ipad somewhere?
you're my legend jessa :D
While I applaud the work you, Louis, and others have done wrt RtR legislation, I think companies like Apple can fairly easily counter it via firmware shenanigans, like they're in the process of implementing with the dreaded T2 chip in MacBooks. And all this is assuming the legislation isn't passed in a watered-down, toothless form.
Apple isn't going to surrender their chokehold on the parts and schematics market without one helluva fight. And they will do everything legal AND illegal to further cement their position and protect what they consider to be their Holy Grail IPs. This isn't a David vs. Goliath situation, but a David vs. Thanos one.
I think the day is fast approaching where anything beyond a quick ribbon or wire replacement won't be possible with new Apple products. Louis already can't source replacement MacBook displays because they don't come with the necessary EDID codes and was forced to resell the stock he had as useless oddities. And relying on donor parts is a very janky way to provide repair service.
And now there are troubling signs that Samsung might be going down a similar route. If Android-based devices start mirroring their iOS counterparts wrt the lack of purchasable parts and overall serviceability, it'll be a dark day, indeed.
Is a One microhenry inductor that important? Can you just jump it?
Yes, very important. Jumping it would likely fry whatever is downstream. The power management chip is outputting a square wave, that's (say) 0V half of the time and 4V half of the time. It's the inductor's job to smooth that out into 2V all of the time. If the downstream component is something sensitive like the CPU, the 4V even for an instant could destroy it.
@@CoolerQ Thanks, now I know. I wasn't sure what it's purpose was.
I'm speaking totally as a none tech person here.
Would it be possible, using one or more working units of each type of iPad, to create your own schematics?
Now this may not be complete, but really, based on experience with what fails most, schematics of those areas.
Even if it means, for instance, if a coil has no markings, indicate what it reads, then find comparable coils that read the same.
I'm thinking the answer will be "no, it would take too long, be too expensive in terms of ripped apart devices, be unreliable if any guessing has to take place", but it's just a thought.
90% of the time iPhone 6 plugs in to charger, starts charging, says "this accessory may not be supported. Dismiss", stops charging. Solution please bro?
Using the official charger or a different charger?
@@Spamhard
Using a generic 12v cigarette Asian made car charger. I have a USB ammeter inline. Only when it reaches about 200mA in 3 sec does the iPhone allow itself to stay charging. Less than 200mA and iPhone stops charging with error msg. Yet my android phones charge 100% of the time!? Why!?!?!?
@@christothegreat1 I'm no expert so if anyone like Jessa can chip in on the technicals, please do, but I know Apple products can be really weird about you not using licensed products, to the extent where your phone just won't accept them as existing in some cases. Might be some technical issue behind this or the firmware? No idea, someone else will def know. There's been lawsuits about it in the past, Apple will only allow certain products to be used, an unsurprisingly the only products they like are the ones that have to pay apple a subsid every time their product sells.
Most androids, on the other hand, don't seem to give a shit what product you use. (Although I'd still be careful with the hella cheap shit anyway.)
Did the same with an Ipad Pro, but used the coils i found i found inside...
Guitar amps are the same way, While Marshall and Peavey schematics are online, Line 6 and a few other are next to impossible to get.
I used curve tracer repair circuit board best tools to used fix things
I worked in the consumer electronics trade for most of my life. Manufactures made their reputation on supplying circuit diagrams and components so their equipment could be repaired.
I knew I could phone Sony (Just as an example ) would happily send me things I needed to repair their products. Equally if I wanted to repair an appliance from say Russel Hobbs or Kenwood I could buy them form a rep who might even carry the parts in his car. Yes the days of simple repairs has gone and it is our right to restore this omission from manufactures of today.
One point I would also make was Sony used to carry spares or order them even if he product was discontinued.
What was the repair cost to your customer for this repair or data retrieval ?
Thanks Jessa! They are such hypocrites! They jump up and down screaming, "save the planet", but their actions say, "who cares!".
You are Awesome!
Coils don't have ground pad unlike capacitors thats why they are more easy to pop off
Unless you mean those EMI filter caps (aka feedthrough caps, essentially a combination of a inductor and a capacitor to ground, forming a LPF), caps and inductors usually both have two pads.
I’m starting to understand how Apple became a billion dollar company.
doing good mam,very helpfull,thanx
How do I like this more than once?
Too bad you can only like a video once
Login with onother account? Or the one from a friend!
Mr. Sniffles
I’ve just liked her video by proxy, by liking your post - lol
Thank you thank you thank you SO much for including the idea of sustainability!! I think it's really important to keep in mind the severe damage that is done to people and environment to win the necessary rare earths just so new devices can be produced at a whim. It sadly seems that modern society has become fond of "simply" disposing of things so they can get newer versions. Your car is no longer perfect after a few years? But a brand new one! You're bored of what your living room looks like? Just throw your perfectly fine furniture and decorations out in the trash and buy new stuff. You're annoyed by having to clean your kitty's dishes all the time? Just use paper plates and throw them away after every meal. Your contractual binding to your cell phone company is running out and your phone is two years old already? Good gracious, time to get the latest model! I'm seeing it time and again, and it really bothers me. This just can't be right. We're already ruining this world as best we can, and the ever growing throwaway society is contributing hugely. I'm a big supporter of the idea of sustainability and reusing things wherever possible, and so I'm very thankful you've stressed this idea so much in your video. Kudos to you!
Good job, this is all we can do for now.
How is it that we have the schematics to every iphone and every macbook but not ipads
You do such great work. Is it me or is it the guy at Apple Insider a JAckass? did you see our tweets? He seems to keep flip flopping and talking out his ass. Editorial?? More like a blog.
It seems to me the missing components must still be in the case, how could them have gotten out if they just popped off by bending the case. They didn’t evaporate
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5 Apple employees disliked this video?
The big money hungry companies pay a lot to representatives and senators at State and Federal levels to get their way clear ! If one or two States get this right to repair bill to pass others will follow and then Congress will follow to. I support the efforts of the repair community and that of the owners of these products to be able to repair or get them repaired at a authorized or independently own repair facility . Keep the pressure on Jessa ,Louis and IFixit !
One time, With my ford f350, I was following a SEMI, and a rock came flying out from under the semi and landed into my windshield and it cracked and chipped it.
I bought another truck.
A new one is only 50-85K depending on motor and options.
Point well taken!
13:20 that’s a lot of schematics that fell off the truck
Most of the innovation from Apple seems to be inside the silicon for these products, these would not be represented on a schematic. So sharing a schematic should not cause a problem.
Also you’ll probably find that a competitor can recreate most of the schematic through taking one apart and following where power flows, etc.
32:33 there isn't an issue in any other country its just the U.S. having this issue with Apple. I think the U.S. are behind with the times. We have something called the ACCC, it is way in Australia and the EU that Apple are forced to provide a 2 year warranty on ALL there products in Australi as standard. Apple Care in Australia is a waste of money because we have these options. Right to repair at least in Australia isn't something that bothers us because if Apple do not provide a free repair or replacement the ACCC will force them to and the customer will always win.
I would of gotten a donor motherboard and switched the chips over
You have a donor motherboard for a $1000 iPad? Where can I get one?
Apple: Making their products to fail in just over a year to force their users to buy a their new overpriced and same as last year's model crap.
It’s funny (to me anyway) that although Apple keep deleting your posts from the Apple Community Forum, and you’ve been banned umpteen times, all of your RUclips videos start with an Apple advertisement...
That was cool to watch...life brought back to a iPad. It's like magic but I know without Apple's help it's just luck sometimes. Keep up the great work. I don't understand why Apple wants to do this to its customers. Seriously who is going to make apple knockoffs...
Your Ipad is Ready to recycle, after one question, and after a bend that Apple is fully responsable for, dayum
Is a car manufacturer responsible when you dent you car?
hill billy no. But should I throw my car away because the manufacturer won’t let someone buy parts for it or work on it?
G. Greenberg will the car manufacture sell you a remanufactured or new car for 1/3 the price of a new car with trading in the dented one ?
@@cardboardboxification hill billy I do remember Toyota called back a million on cars for brakes flaw, Toyota had the courage to acknowlegde the flaw, because out of tens of millions cas only a million had a problem. For Ipad there is an evidence that the flaw is bend related, then apple should at least discharge the repair or provide spare ships.
Dzlyesful how much is a iPad Pro $1200... some people are careless, and don’t respect nothing , they bend it... water damage it, Apple didn’t bend it..
Most people are not going to spend $1500 on equipment to work on their own iPad...
Anything can be repaired....
No one will fix a tv 3 year old for $500 when a new one is $1000..
A $100,000 le croy oscilloscope is board replacement only....
Very few manufacture would do a board repair... they would then have to warranty the entire board not just the repair... and test it to ensure it is completely working, it’s cheaper and less time to pick up a new board off the pick and place machine and install it...
If she wants to repair a product with no information, she will have to buy a few, and use one for voltage and ohm reference , and use the other for component measurements with the part removed ...
Even my $40,000 new price signal generator has NO schematics ...
I got it for $100 and fixed it...
Did your tv come with a schismatic?
The days of sams schematics has been over for years for consumer goods..
A lot of products have custom components , you can’t get info on it , much less buy one...
Big fan of you
So it would be better if the case was made thicker to stop it from flexing.
Love your videos and I fully agree with right to repair ..however please forgive one little nitpick, the plural of Lego is Lego, not Legos. (a lot of Americans tend not to know that, no offence intended)
On what evidence?
@@JessaJones Lego themselves, they tweeted this a good time ago, I quote "LEGO is always an adjective. So LEGO bricks, LEGO elements, LEGO sets, etc. Never, ever "legos." :)
@@8-bitsteve500 Sorry, a single company doesn't get to define language. Legos is most definitely plural of lego and it is a noun. Language is defined by usage and agreement. Ask any child what is this? "A lego" and those are? "Legos"
@@JessaJones Well can we politely agree to disagree on this matter? I still love your videos even if you think I'm a fool ;)
Fantastic video, shame nobody will listen...
Good lady you are a champ🌹🙏
Is there anyone out there that buys the newer products, reverse engineers them, and then makes current schematics? Is that even possible?
Wouldn't it be possible to find the schematics via a Chinese iPad Pro clone in Shenzhen? I know its not ideal, but China doesn't play by the same rules Apple would like it to play.
If the schematics were available anywhere in the world, they would instantly be available everywhere in the world. That has been the case with the other devices
Here's what pisses me off about this issue. If I buy a car, I can find parts and repair it or get a "third party" aka a mechanic, to fix it. Why? Because I bought it, I own it, it's my car to do what I want with. If I buy a fridge, I can get it repaired anyway I want. However If i spend 3k on a laptop (which in some cases is more expensive then the car or a fridge) apple gives the finger and says nope, we won't let you get it fixed, even though you own that device. This makes no sense other then Apple wants more money. This should be illegal, it has been in the car industry for decades. The whole argument about "computers are more sensitive blah blah" is bull. Cars now a days have computers built into them, they track where you've been and are going, but I can still fix them if I wanna buy the parts and do the labor my self. Why can't I fix my computer, or get someone who actually understands it more then the idiots at the genius bar? It's simply my money my product simple as that.
"Baby voltages"
Are we close to a solution for this greedy situation?
Couldn’t you just open up another iPad of the same model and see what was supposed to be in that spot? Maybe recycle thrown out and broke iPads for spare parts like cars?
As long as companies like Apple fight against Right to Repair; states should charge them at least 100% of their MSRP for the device OR for them to go into the landfills or for recycling costs. They would be sent a bill at the end of each quarter/year. They wouldn't be able to raise their rates because the fee would equally increase for them; and they would lose customers left and right; they would have no option but to capitulate.
13:29 Even if the schematic was detailed enough to allow someone to reproduce an exact and functioning iPad copy, and they could program the chips with a functional OS and software, it would end up being FAR too expensive for anyone to bother with. To keep costs down, they'd have to do huge production runs, and be able to guarantee sales of 100% of the knock-off product.
Schematics do not include internals of ICs, let alone programmable components. There is no logic to holding on to a schematic because someone would copy it, any more than there is for hiding the blueprints to your house so no one can build an identical one.
This.
Not to mention there's plenty of cheap knock offs of Apple products (and everything else), with or without the schematics available. If someone wants to cheaply copy it, they'll copy it, schematics have nothing to do with that.
you are awesome btw
Coils popped off without any trace means nothing but incompetent SMT soldering process.