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Imagine if Watts gets the WTBS time slot in 1985 instead of Crockett and he signs Savage instead of going to WWF. Then he gets Magnum to come back as he’s a national company. A Magnum vs Savage feud would of been intense for sure!!!
It would have been great, but by the end of 86 / early 87, both guys would have been in the WWF (assuming Magnum doesn't have his car wreck) just like most of the other top names in the Mid South territory were by that time.
IF Macho goes to Mid South and stays on TBS, I would eventually have Savage as my #1 guy. BECAUSE he had the IT FACTOR to match Hogan and Flair. Plus he was one of the best in the ring as well. For my money, he and Flair were the top two total packages in wrestling for a large chunk of the 80's. And even heading into the early 90's. But Macho was the NEW AGE TOTAL PACKAGE who added the great aerial assault to the technical skills, main event IT factor, great mic work, and ability to be great as a face or heel. But Magnum could have ALSO been that guy as well. He had that star power as well. Just didn't get to reach his potential with it. And then you also had Dibiase as well who could have been the top guy. So u have three great options right there! Just think Savage's IT factor was on a bit higher level!
@Bull crap Slayer ABSOLUTELY!!! Both were HELLA INTENSE! Both had IT FACTOR in spades! Magnum-Savage is a feud you can build a company around. That has legend status written all over it.
As a fan who was born way after Macho Man retired and only watched his matches on the Network, Macho's matches still hold up and are amazing to watch! He is immensely entertaining and that to such an extent, that even I can recite his 'cream rises to the top' promo verbatim
youtube his promo on Lawler from Memphis from the 90's. That's even better. His promos on Dutch Mantell from their feud in Memphis before he went to WWF are something else too. "I'm like an ant going up an elephant's back, with rape on it's mind!"
@@arnavbhagwat4232 Randy was an awesome worker & he was a decent baseball player before he went into the business. He obviously inherited his Dad's athletic talent & would've been PERFECT for Watts's territory not just because of his own talent, but because Bill was great friends with Randy's Dad. As far as what you said about Hogan & his days with the NWO, he was more believable as a heel back in the late 70's-early 80's when he had Freddie Blassie as his manager then when he was with the NWO mainly because it was ridiculous to see half a promotion's roster helping an old has been keep the world title.
Randy "Macho Man" Savage vs Steve "Dr Death" Williams Randy "Macho Man" Savage vs Terry "Bam Bam" Gordy Randy "Macho Man" Savage vs Rick Steiner Randy "Macho Man" Savage vs The Missing Link Randy "Macho Man" Savage vs Paul "Mr Wonderful" Ordorff You put any of these match ups with their pictures on a billboard and people will be paying top dollar to see them.
Randy wouldn't have been able to do the flying elbow in Mid South without breaking the rules. He'd have to have been a heel or pick up a different finish.
His other finishing move, the piledriver, was banned then too. From what I know, flying elbow from the 2nd rope is legal. But yeah, you can do anything as a heel.
100 years from now, kids will be listening to this for a college course on 20th century pop culture or maybe even a class on the history of professional wrestling/sports entertainment, to me listening to this now, its a cool thought.
I'm also thinking based on how II was acting maybe he turns early and teams with Savage. Randy and Angelo getting color on Lanny for his comments would have been enough back then and it also sounds like they started jobbing him once Randy wasn't coming in. It all happened so quickly that point gets lost in the shuffle. Plus I'm thinking Lanny left pretty quick to go to Memphis. If so they just jobbed him on the way out like anybody else. They would have played it totally different if Randy came in.
1:51 Future question for the Drive-Thru: Since Watts was so intent on keeping Kayfabe, did Volkoff actually file a complaint with the embassy in case someone bothered to look for it?
Someone asked a question last week, "do you believe if Savage didn't sign with Vince would he be a huge star?"... I've been thinking about that question.. How the hell would Savage not been a star anywhere?! Size, athleticism, in ring ability, psychology, promo, it factor, there's just no way he couldn't right
Randy Savage was in a league unto himself. From the day he premiered in wwf I knew he was destined to be wwf champion even with Hogan on top unlikely to have it work for him brother. Ahhh Jamie Dundee the man who had no self control
If anyone's interested, there's a clip of a Savage-Magnum TA vs Mad Mongolians tag team match on the network and WWE YT channel. It was part of a GCW Thanksgiving tournament in 1983. Not Savage's finest work but damn, that's a dream tag team right there.
I wonder if they (Mid-South) were working up to showing footage of Magnum T.A. And Randy Savage winning the Thanksgiving Day Tag Team Tournament in Atlanta in 1983 with all this mention of Lanny’s family , Wrestling 2 not liking him, and then showing the video package and continued mention of Savage? 🤔💭 Edit: Plus all the history of Mid-South and Georgia exchanging talent?
I know Mike Jackson must have been a little respected by the other guys who were higher on the card. I even remember the nature boy letting him do some stuff in a singles match on TV and he didn't usually do that with job guys
now I'm trying to imagine Randy and Lanny both in Mid-South...then Angelo appears....and reveals plans to take over Mid-South.....and the unthinkable happens, and the top heel team in Mid-South takes a stand for Mid-South, and you have what is essentially two heel teams facing off, but Corny's epic promo rants are now getting major face pops from the crowds...
Too many commercials for my taste. Love the show but please cut back on the commercials. I can’t put my phone down for 3 minutes without having to pick it back up to skip a commercial. Advertise halfway through the video and one at the end and you will have more subscribers!!!
Here is a question that I have not heard answered. Why was Watts in Memphis to begin with? Aside of the just poking around thing. Could it be he was there to bring in Savage, but Jerry (seeing his long built Lawler-Savage feud vanish before his eyes) pitches the Midnights and the R&R instead with Dundee as a booker (since they had to get Bill out of there anyway), saving his big money Lawler-Savage feud by providing Watts with an even bigger money feud.
Not sure if Bryan reads these comments but could you please watch the latest "Inner circle embarrasses and kills The pinnacle" video? On the other hand, Jim might have a heart attack so i'm conflicted.
Imagine being a 22 year old kid, only been in the business 2 years, not even a wrestler and being offered what in today's money would be just over $152,000 a year to be the manager for the top heel team in a territory. Double that since Cornette said it was $100,000 a year in the end. $303.000 a year for a 22-24 year old. . . Damn.
@@thelastmotel No, it's because Vince & his Hollywood writers have lost the ability to get anybody over as a babyface as well as getting good heat for the heels. As far as AEW goes, $ mark Khan & Cody for some reason has since day 1 had the attitude that "heels & babyfaces don't matter" which is insanely stupid.
@@tigerbug69 I will concede I tolerated Stadium stupidity because it was early in the pandemic and there was no sports on TV. But Mimosa match was awful and Arcade anarchy pretty much made my head explode. Although Kat is kind of pretty so I'll give her a bye bat WOW was that AWFUL. Cornette will end up in outer space after watching that 🤣😂🤣😅
@@tigerbug69 it was a good ass show, and then that main event was soooooo indy outlaw match with 3 of the worse aew wrestlers. And miro is ehhh mid card. Can't believe tony khan won booker of the year
As far as the Poffo family goes, everybody can do a fair impression of Randy. But I want to give props to Brian for his Lanny impression!
Thanks again for my Cameo Message Jim!!!🥳
Macho Man Randy Savage was one of my All Time favourites and his Promos alone Captivated me ... 🔥
Do it a randy savage voice and all's good, slowing down the words in caps.
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@Armani Xavier yup, have been watching on Instaflixxer for years myself :D
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Imagine if Watts gets the WTBS time slot in 1985 instead of Crockett and he signs Savage instead of going to WWF. Then he gets Magnum to come back as he’s a national company. A Magnum vs Savage feud would of been intense for sure!!!
It would have been great, but by the end of 86 / early 87, both guys would have been in the WWF (assuming Magnum doesn't have his car wreck) just like most of the other top names in the Mid South territory were by that time.
IF Macho goes to Mid South and stays on TBS, I would eventually have Savage as my #1 guy. BECAUSE he had the IT FACTOR to match Hogan and Flair. Plus he was one of the best in the ring as well. For my money, he and Flair were the top two total packages in wrestling for a large chunk of the 80's. And even heading into the early 90's. But Macho was the NEW AGE TOTAL PACKAGE who added the great aerial assault to the technical skills, main event IT factor, great mic work, and ability to be great as a face or heel.
But Magnum could have ALSO been that guy as well. He had that star power as well. Just didn't get to reach his potential with it. And then you also had Dibiase as well who could have been the top guy. So u have three great options right there! Just think Savage's IT factor was on a bit higher level!
@Bull crap Slayer ABSOLUTELY!!! Both were HELLA INTENSE! Both had IT FACTOR in spades! Magnum-Savage is a feud you can build a company around. That has legend status written all over it.
Vince still would have killed everyone. His mind was working so far ahead of anyone else in that business. I don't care who was where.
P
Still amazes me..the knowledge of both Jim and Brian from 40 years ago.
As a fan who was born way after Macho Man retired and only watched his matches on the Network, Macho's matches still hold up and are amazing to watch! He is immensely entertaining and that to such an extent, that even I can recite his 'cream rises to the top' promo verbatim
so much better than hogan
@@sublime90 Hogan in the nWo is entertaining too!
I prefer him to Flair or Hogan, 100%
youtube his promo on Lawler from Memphis from the 90's. That's even better. His promos on Dutch Mantell from their feud in Memphis before he went to WWF are something else too.
"I'm like an ant going up an elephant's back, with rape on it's mind!"
@@arnavbhagwat4232 Randy was an awesome worker & he was a decent baseball player before he went into the business. He obviously inherited his Dad's athletic talent & would've been PERFECT for Watts's territory not just because of his own talent, but because Bill was great friends with Randy's Dad. As far as what you said about Hogan & his days with the NWO, he was more believable as a heel back in the late 70's-early 80's when he had Freddie Blassie as his manager then when he was with the NWO mainly because it was ridiculous to see half a promotion's roster helping an old has been keep the world title.
I love Brian's Lanny Poffo impression.
It is perfect!
I feel ripped off we never got Savage vs Magnum!
Imagine if that match was in the NWA
@@chadk890 be some feud the promos leading up to the match would be so good
@@Kas58223 They would've drawn money.
@@chadk890 funny enough when I saw Magnum TA for the first time I was saying when did Tom Selleck get into wrestling
@@Kas58223 Exactly
Filed a protest at the Russian Embassy? Now, that's an angle.
Classic.
Talk about LoNg tErM sToRyTeLLiNg
“I am the cream!!!”
"...and I've been MALIGNED..."
Cup o coffee yeah
FREAK OUT! DIG IT!
@@mazukakai from the top, to the bottom
Randy "Macho Man" Savage vs Steve "Dr Death" Williams
Randy "Macho Man" Savage vs Terry "Bam Bam" Gordy
Randy "Macho Man" Savage vs Rick Steiner
Randy "Macho Man" Savage vs The Missing Link
Randy "Macho Man" Savage vs Paul "Mr Wonderful" Ordorff
You put any of these match ups with their pictures on a billboard and people will be paying top dollar to see them.
Savage vs Nikita or Windahm, Tully, Arn or Flair!
Dr Death, Terry Taylor...even Brad Armstrong
Randy wouldn't have been able to do the flying elbow in Mid South without breaking the rules. He'd have to have been a heel or pick up a different finish.
The Mach' coming in as a heel and doing forbidden elbows would have been a great idea.
His other finishing move, the piledriver, was banned then too. From what I know, flying elbow from the 2nd rope is legal. But yeah, you can do anything as a heel.
@@E_l_l_i_e There's an ICW Savage match that echoes that statement. He still went top rope regardless!
100 years from now, kids will be listening to this for a college course on 20th century pop culture or maybe even a class on the history of professional wrestling/sports entertainment, to me listening to this now, its a cool thought.
Not so cool is the fact that almost everyone alive at the moment will be dead by then.
I'm also thinking based on how II was acting maybe he turns early and teams with Savage. Randy and Angelo getting color on Lanny for his comments would have been enough back then and it also sounds like they started jobbing him once Randy wasn't coming in. It all happened so quickly that point gets lost in the shuffle. Plus I'm thinking Lanny left pretty quick to go to Memphis. If so they just jobbed him on the way out like anybody else. They would have played it totally different if Randy came in.
Well Boyd Pierce looks like you got dressed in the dark again!!!
1:51 Future question for the Drive-Thru: Since Watts was so intent on keeping Kayfabe, did Volkoff actually file a complaint with the embassy in case someone bothered to look for it?
Ask that on Twitter. You might get lucky there.
R.I.P. Randy Savage!
And DMX
Someone asked a question last week, "do you believe if Savage didn't sign with Vince would he be a huge star?"... I've been thinking about that question.. How the hell would Savage not been a star anywhere?! Size, athleticism, in ring ability, psychology, promo, it factor, there's just no way he couldn't right
He just needed the best stage to perform
Lanny might be TGBL’s best impression.
Randy Savage was in a league unto himself. From the day he premiered in wwf I knew he was destined to be wwf champion even with Hogan on top unlikely to have it work for him brother. Ahhh Jamie Dundee the man who had no self control
Jim is the best wrestling historian in history. Ima Cornette Guy 👍👍👍
Not sure ive ever heard...... "historian in history" ...not sure if thats legal dialogue....
@@kevinkeller5635 every single day I'm alive I'm illegal just like new jack
@@kevinkeller5635 that's awesome
"Best there is... past, present and future! Ohhhhh yeahhhh" - Macho Man
This was a great segment. More of this please 🙂
Hahaha Brian does a great Lanny Poffo
Brian nailed the Lanny impression.
If anyone's interested, there's a clip of a Savage-Magnum TA vs Mad Mongolians tag team match on the network and WWE YT channel. It was part of a GCW Thanksgiving tournament in 1983. Not Savage's finest work but damn, that's a dream tag team right there.
that was a STRONG Lanny impression
This was AMAZING! I love all this back info!
I'm rocking back and forth waiting for Jim to rip apart the AEW Arcade Anarchy match XD
Yes you know its gonna be epic.😂
Has it dropped yet? Link?
Gonna be an epic burial
I wonder if they (Mid-South) were working up to showing footage of Magnum T.A. And Randy Savage winning the Thanksgiving Day Tag Team Tournament in Atlanta in 1983 with all this mention of Lanny’s family , Wrestling 2 not liking him, and then showing the video package and continued mention of Savage? 🤔💭
Edit: Plus all the history of Mid-South and Georgia exchanging talent?
Nikolai Volkov, you’re not even in my reppatendaaaa!!!!! 😂😂😂
I know Mike Jackson must have been a little respected by the other guys who were higher on the card. I even remember the nature boy letting him do some stuff in a singles match on TV and he didn't usually do that with job guys
Didn't TA & Savage team together for a holiday tag tourney?
now I'm trying to imagine Randy and Lanny both in Mid-South...then Angelo appears....and reveals plans to take over Mid-South.....and the unthinkable happens, and the top heel team in Mid-South takes a stand for Mid-South, and you have what is essentially two heel teams facing off, but Corny's epic promo rants are now getting major face pops from the crowds...
Nice Leaping Lanny impression.
Too many commercials for my taste. Love the show but please cut back on the commercials. I can’t put my phone down for 3 minutes without having to pick it back up to skip a commercial. Advertise halfway through the video and one at the end and you will have more subscribers!!!
Trick is 2 fast forward all the way til the end, then replay it and then no more ads
Brian's Lanny Poffo impersonation is pretty goood
Anybody else think Jarrett worked Watts to get Savage ? Lol.
Here is a question that I have not heard answered. Why was Watts in Memphis to begin with? Aside of the just poking around thing. Could it be he was there to bring in Savage, but Jerry (seeing his long built Lawler-Savage feud vanish before his eyes) pitches the Midnights and the R&R instead with Dundee as a booker (since they had to get Bill out of there anyway), saving his big money Lawler-Savage feud by providing Watts with an even bigger money feud.
I remember watching all this when I was 12. Iconic epic legendary wrestling magic 👌🏻
Not sure if Bryan reads these comments but could you please watch the latest "Inner circle embarrasses and kills The pinnacle" video?
On the other hand, Jim might have a heart attack so i'm conflicted.
Imagine being a 22 year old kid, only been in the business 2 years, not even a wrestler and being offered what in today's money would be just over $152,000 a year to be the manager for the top heel team in a territory. Double that since Cornette said it was $100,000 a year in the end. $303.000 a year for a 22-24 year old. . . Damn.
Savage vs TA wouldve been an awsome program in 84/85
Mike Mills? I loved him in R.E.M.
that was a good lanny impression!
Great storytelling!
From a kayfabe kid to 55 years old man JC is GOD👊
Why there aren't hated heels in wrestling anymore?
Cos no-one wants to be a heel or a babyface anymore, plus the modern fans don't give a f@ck. Only us old heads are bothered, and we aren't listened to
@@thelastmotel FACTS
Corbin is a hated heel. He has massive change the channel heat, though
@@thelastmotel No, it's because Vince & his Hollywood writers have lost the ability to get anybody over as a babyface as well as getting good heat for the heels. As far as AEW goes, $ mark Khan & Cody for some reason has since day 1 had the attitude that "heels & babyfaces don't matter" which is insanely stupid.
The answer to all the questions is because nobody keeps kayfabe anymore. Except MJF, at least he made a little kid cry at an appearance.
Randy definitely would've fit in perfectly in Mid South aligned with Ted Dibase or his brother Lanny Poffo.
On the Soapbox’ MachoMan H.E.A.T !! Heat ,Heat ,Heat
Orange 🍊 Cassidy + Arcade anarchy + An alien 👽 hiding in an arcade game 🕹 + Jim Cornette = 🤣🤣😂🤣🤣😂🤣
That was complete garbage. I was actually enjoying dynamite till they put that crap on. Wrestlecrap overload!
@@tigerbug69 I will concede I tolerated Stadium stupidity because it was early in the pandemic and there was no sports on TV. But Mimosa match was awful and Arcade anarchy pretty much made my head explode. Although Kat is kind of pretty so I'll give her a bye bat WOW was that AWFUL. Cornette will end up in outer space after watching that 🤣😂🤣😅
@@tigerbug69 it was a good ass show, and then that main event was soooooo indy outlaw match with 3 of the worse aew wrestlers. And miro is ehhh mid card. Can't believe tony khan won booker of the year
@@jeffmac9642 Oh yeah. Cant get much worse than that crapola. Cornys favourite team in all their glory!
@@-JAVY- Miro is a joke. If anything they can now seperate him from kip and rehabilitate him but I think its too late for that now!
Ooooooo yeahhhh
RIP Lanny.
Oooooooooooooooooooooooh Yeeeeeeeeaaaahh! Dig It!
That was all super interesting and educational all at once. Phenomenal
First, Carl Fergie and then Tommy Gilbert. Tennessee wrestlers don't retire, they just go work for Bill Watts as referees🤣🤣🤣🤣
Icw world champion won and defended with honor
Howdy friends
Welp this never happened
Midnight Express debut as described by Cornie here:
ruclips.net/video/TCvN3eZUA7Y/видео.html
Who'd wanna go to mid South ?
What's wrong with Mid South Wrestling? Sting learned from being there you know.
Mid-South was a great promotion.
@@kevinpayton2664 FACTS. UWF was must see TV.
Mid-South was awesome! Lol, lots of guys wanted to go there
First!
Double d...weird thing is....when you get to ur jackassy comment...its last....ya dig?