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  • Опубликовано: 16 апр 2024
  • When civilization returned to New California, it took refuge in Shady Springs. Now, what was once a shining capital serves as a reminder: war never changes.
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  • @Tuskin38
    @Tuskin38 Месяц назад +1660

    confirmed in an interview today that the nuking took place after new Vegas and the NCR does still exist

    • @DrNefarious-rw1dm
      @DrNefarious-rw1dm Месяц назад

      They only confirmed that the nuking happened after New Vegas, we don't know what happened to the rest of NCR
      I really hope they will confirm it only moved away from LA area and that's all, because if they put that it all fell just for the destruction of one city, yea that's just bullshit writing

    • @TemplinInstitute
      @TemplinInstitute  Месяц назад +903

      True NCR patriots never had a doubt.

    • @Boomerrage32
      @Boomerrage32 Месяц назад +111

      That is good to hear. Would you mind telling me what to search for to find that interview?

    • @FrontlineCrusaders226
      @FrontlineCrusaders226 Месяц назад +39

      Oh Thank God

    • @AzrenKaleBolles-Pohja
      @AzrenKaleBolles-Pohja Месяц назад +72

      The Amazon show is Not Canon as far as I'm Concerned. Just More bad writing like Rings of Power.

  • @socialaccount0000
    @socialaccount0000 Месяц назад +671

    >Is called Shady Sands
    >Looks inside
    >No Shade

    • @ALLMINDmercenarysupportsystem
      @ALLMINDmercenarysupportsystem Месяц назад +19

      Is there sand tho?

    • @nickthenuker7916
      @nickthenuker7916 Месяц назад +11

      @@ALLMINDmercenarysupportsystemit's California, so yes.

    • @derekdube7352
      @derekdube7352 Месяц назад +2

      Promptly asks for refund

    • @DOSFS
      @DOSFS Месяц назад +3

      I means... there is a shade in those creator----

    • @PeterReid1993
      @PeterReid1993 Месяц назад +2

      One could even argue that, if only for a brief moment, it was *one* of the brightest places on planet earths history.

  • @kennyroberts9687
    @kennyroberts9687 Месяц назад +879

    Well, at least you aren't patrolling the Mojave, wishing for a Nuclear Winter.

    • @Domfass21
      @Domfass21 Месяц назад +14

      I understand that reference

    • @alfredkabatay656
      @alfredkabatay656 Месяц назад

      I don't know how many channels i've seen this comment on for this tv show lol must of gotten thousands of likes

    • @blueanonymousguy3978
      @blueanonymousguy3978 Месяц назад +2

      ​@Domfass21 any true fallout fan would

  • @vVRichardVv
    @vVRichardVv Месяц назад +338

    Cadian:CADIA STANDS!
    Helldiver: MALEVELON CREEK STANDS!
    NCR trooper: SHADY SANDS STANDS!

  • @gonkdroid4603
    @gonkdroid4603 Месяц назад +310

    Shady Sands may be gone, but NCR endures. It is more than one city, it is a nation
    True Californian patriots will agree

    • @3Jane_TA
      @3Jane_TA Месяц назад +10

      Ave, true to Caesar. Todd Howard was truly on the side of the Legion after all.

    • @Zephyr_Phoenix76
      @Zephyr_Phoenix76 Месяц назад

      Fuck Cali

    • @maddogtannan1334
      @maddogtannan1334 Месяц назад +6

      Support from Mr House Enjoyers
      We need y’all’s money

    • @adamskaocelot8382
      @adamskaocelot8382 Месяц назад

      A corrupt nation polluted by old world problems. We all know how that ended

    • @plaguedoctorjamespainshe6009
      @plaguedoctorjamespainshe6009 Месяц назад +6

      The bear still has another head

  • @Robin447
    @Robin447 Месяц назад +249

    Here's a fun one to consider: For his plan to work, Mr House not only did not project the collapse of NCR anytime soon but he also strongly believed that they would be such an economic powerhouse that they could kick-start his great revatilazation project with their disposable income alone...

    • @awestruckcardboard3431
      @awestruckcardboard3431 Месяц назад +37

      Mr House did not want to make enemies of the NCR, so I agree.
      If he did, like he said no Tourist, bye bye Money. He wanted to pin the blame on Oliver, predicting himself a inflicted gunwound to the head.

    • @override367
      @override367 Месяц назад +24

      this would - should - make house quite antagonistic towards the overseer if he learns what he did to Shady Sands. House never endorsed their project, he believed he could shape the wasteland himself

    • @Pierce1996h
      @Pierce1996h Месяц назад +2

      Well he's one person he makes many mistakes and takes many risks(biggest one being letting the courier walk into the lucky 38) he didn't even get the first part of his plan completely right the chip was 200 years late. He was struggling but I don't believe he would ever want to harm the ncr. He relied on them and understood they were a decent government even more reasonable than the old world ones. I hope they don't change his whole character in the show. I hope he finds out what vault tec did to shady sands

    • @awestruckcardboard3431
      @awestruckcardboard3431 Месяц назад

      @@Pierce1996h I hope his Personality is not just Elon Musk Space persona tuned to 11.

    • @simonwilliamnoelmurray9179
      @simonwilliamnoelmurray9179 Месяц назад +6

      I sincerely hope the canon ending they choose is The House Always Wins - that way we can see one of the most interesting characters in Fallout on the big screen

  • @captainyossarian388
    @captainyossarian388 Месяц назад +328

    You can't have a scene where Lucy splays the NCR flag and the Fallout theme swells (talk about goosebumps), without there being a hope that the NCR lives.

    • @override367
      @override367 Месяц назад +19

      my guess, my hope, is that the NCR is fractured and still struggling to right itself, shady sands loss wouldn't be the biggest hit, it would be all the refugees without enough clean water or food that would pulse out from the region, a human tragedy the NCR would be unable to absorb. The political power of the NCR lies with greedy brahmin barons, weapons manufacturers, and people in the business of water, and the ensuing conflicts over resources in the area would probably ... well turn it back into the wasteland, and explain how fucked everything in the area is

    • @jsnap1
      @jsnap1 Месяц назад +4

      I just wish they used the New Vegas version

  • @mr.l7471
    @mr.l7471 Месяц назад +310

    Shady Sands, where the legend of the vault dweller was born and the birth of the NCR

    • @awestruckcardboard3431
      @awestruckcardboard3431 Месяц назад +8

      Born was the Legend, not the birth, But when the Vault Dweller drove off the Raiders and Khans from terrorising the future Capital of the NCR.

    • @drg617
      @drg617 Месяц назад +5

      And now Bethesda buried it all. It buried the NCR, buried the legend of the dweller, and finally buried the original Fallout.

    • @bunnitomoe3866
      @bunnitomoe3866 Месяц назад +8

      ​@@drg617 don't be so dramatic

  • @imperatortiago
    @imperatortiago Месяц назад +198

    I find it interesting that the series makes it appear that Shady Sands is in or near Los Angeles, while Fallout 1 and 2, as well as other maps of California, make the city closer to California's Dead Valey, near the state border of nevada

    • @daverage4729
      @daverage4729 Месяц назад +5

      Perhaps we'll see it rebuilt there in the show?

    • @RMProjects785
      @RMProjects785 Месяц назад +20

      I actually like this retcon. It made no sense that the most prosperous city in the entirety of post-war America was located in the middle of quite literally the hottest desert on the planet.

    • @alcalanjuan
      @alcalanjuan Месяц назад +22

      @@RMProjects785 that's due to the dwellers of vault 15 using the geck to terraform the land

    • @RMProjects785
      @RMProjects785 Месяц назад +2

      @@alcalanjuan Oh I think I missed that in the lore. Still, you need trade routes/infrastructure, sea and river access, etc. which Death Valley doesn't have at all.

    • @alcalanjuan
      @alcalanjuan Месяц назад +4

      @RMProjects785 infrastructure they develop that on there own and the hub pretty much handles the trade routes for shady sands . F2 shows how they were able to get the major settlements of f2 and 1 to come together and form the NCR which shady sands is made capital as they were the ones to start forming it in the furst place. Sea and river action no but no place in fallout exploits the sea as all goods are transporte over land

  • @Jungoguy
    @Jungoguy Месяц назад +415

    The NCR is living proof that Vault-Tec was wrong and they couldn’t stand that. They need to come back!

    • @TemplinInstitute
      @TemplinInstitute  Месяц назад +137

      Damn straight.

    • @Skiritai
      @Skiritai Месяц назад +20

      The NCR needs to accept the Brotherhood's terms for technology policing, and then they can coexist.

    • @aidymacBrago
      @aidymacBrago Месяц назад +92

      ​@@Skiritai the BoS lost the first war, theres no need to coexist when generally the NCR is just stronger

    • @ALLMINDmercenarysupportsystem
      @ALLMINDmercenarysupportsystem Месяц назад +70

      ​@@Skiritai "Ideological purity and power armor doesn't matter when you're outnumbered 15 to 1." Or something like that.

    • @Skiritai
      @Skiritai Месяц назад +12

      @@aidymacBrago Let's see them try that now that the Brotherhood has an air force, cold fusion, and could request reinforcements from across the Continent.

  • @Alex_FRD
    @Alex_FRD Месяц назад +461

    I want to know how Shady Sands moved 260 miles from Death Valley to the middle of LA.

    • @PrivateDoge
      @PrivateDoge Месяц назад +124

      Fr, people act like this is a minor thing. But it throws a wrench in the entire story of Fallout 1 (and 2 to a certain extent). Not to mention fundamentally changing what the NCR is.

    • @LewisB3217
      @LewisB3217 Месяц назад +80

      @@PrivateDoge how does it change the NCR at all???? The NCR spans 5 states, including all of LA

    • @xenomorph1238
      @xenomorph1238 Месяц назад +21

      Giant Underground Tortoise

    • @Vonstab
      @Vonstab Месяц назад +140

      ​@LewisB3217 Because it puts Shady Sands right next to the Master and his army of supermutants. Which means that they would have been one of the first locations destroyed in Fallout 1.
      Shady Sands teleporting to LA also means that it impossible for the Vault Dweller to come across Shady Sands on their way to Vault 15.
      Moving Shady Sands effectively derails Fallout 1 and that in turn derails Fallout 2.

    • @PrivateDoge
      @PrivateDoge Месяц назад +41

      @@Vonstab Also now that Shady is in LA does the boneyard even exist?

  • @UnboundConman
    @UnboundConman Месяц назад +36

    NCR soldier after finishing his tour in the Mojave and going home to Shady Sands, which is located in near Death Valley in Fallout 1, 2, and New Vegas:
    "Where the fuck is the city?"
    "Yeah, they moved it to the Boneyard."
    "How? Why? HOW?"
    "It Fell"
    "What the fuck does that mean? How do you just MOVE A CITY?"
    *The distant flash of a Nuclear Blast*
    "Ope, looks like someone nuked Shady The Boneyard Sands"
    "WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON"

  • @pwojo9776
    @pwojo9776 Месяц назад +42

    Something about seeing a Fallout setting most players would know or at least know of that isn't a blasted out hole or an endless desert, with functioning infrastructure, cars and trucks and trolleys, and schools and libraries and shit, that isn't limited by game engines, it was nice, just very pleasant and reassuring to see. Like seeing the scene with the trolley in Lucy's memory got me emotional. And the original obelisk and well from the very first game still being there, I had to rewind to make sure I saw that right, I was smiling the entire flashback.

    • @override367
      @override367 Месяц назад +15

      It makes Mcclain one of the worst villains to me, he's worse than the Enclave president in Fallout 2, or The Master, or any of them. I was there when Shady Sands was getting off the ground. I hate Mcclain more for the loss of Shady Sands than the entire world - which was probably going to go to war anyway

    • @pwojo9776
      @pwojo9776 Месяц назад +12

      @@override367 It's even worse when you think that part of the reason for this was because he didn't want to tell his wife the truth or have a sensible discussion that could lead to a peaceful solution. That he'd rather nuke about 40k people than be honest with his wife, the love of his life, the mother of his beloved children or possibly even consider that Vault Tec might be in the wrong.

  • @Bread-nx9fo
    @Bread-nx9fo Месяц назад +134

    I doubt they'll have Caesar in season 2 since he's probably dead from the tumor, but a Lanius easteregg or reference would be cool.

    • @TheMajorStranger
      @TheMajorStranger Месяц назад +34

      My theory is they will canonized Mr. House winning in S2 for the simple fact having Mr House in the show sound cool as hell to have him interact with The Ghoul.

    • @LewisB3217
      @LewisB3217 Месяц назад +6

      Yeah Caesars legion always loses unless the courier helps them, which he wouldn’t, I also don’t think he’d help house because the NCR is already a great nation in the fallout world, which the courier could trust, meanwhile House, while a genius is somewhat of a manipulator and a tyrant if he doesn’t get what he wants

    • @LordDarthHarry
      @LordDarthHarry Месяц назад +13

      @@LewisB3217 You are going under the assumption the Courier has to be an altruistic hero and not a mercenary or someone who genuinely believed in House's vision.

    • @marcellinma6169
      @marcellinma6169 Месяц назад +14

      @@LordDarthHarry Or in my case, a capricious psychopath whose actions are based on whichever side has the funnier lines.

    • @awestruckcardboard3431
      @awestruckcardboard3431 Месяц назад +1

      ​@@LewisB3217 The Legion always wins New Vegas, They had their hands in so much things such as spies in the Highest of the NCR military, two groups willing to set chaos in New Vegas itself, and the Great Khans seeking revenge, So the Legion always wins New Vegas without Courier help.
      Its the post war that is to be decided, I guess Legate Lanius is able to conquer California, and or fails due to Californias almost 3 Million population.

  • @KingOfMadCows
    @KingOfMadCows Месяц назад +15

    Shady Sands is the first town you visit in the first game of the Fallout franchise. A lot of the lore of the series and worldbuilding for the Wasteland started at Shady Sands.
    And Shady Sands was founded by residents from Vault 15, a Vault populated by people with vastly different ideologies. That's why the Vault was abandoned so early, the people weren't able to work together so the different groups split up when the Vault door opened.
    By the end of Fallout 2, the NCR was able to reclaim Vault 15 and gain access to what was left of the technology there.

  • @shaftoe195
    @shaftoe195 Месяц назад +33

    Well, Preston... that settlement is going to need A LOT of help...

  • @rickyrwatson
    @rickyrwatson Месяц назад +11

    I just recently noticed the obelisk in Shady Sands flashback. Such a nice nod to the original Shady Sands from Fallout 1.

  • @cipherhornet1889
    @cipherhornet1889 Месяц назад +41

    The sign said "first" capital, which implies there's another to have followed. So I don't think this is the end of the NCR.

    • @Ryanowning
      @Ryanowning Месяц назад +14

      It's been confirmed by the show writers that the NCR is, in fact, still very alive and "well". Season 2 is almost exclusively about the NCR and their resurgence in the area.

    • @erichunsaker4969
      @erichunsaker4969 Месяц назад +2

      ​@@Ryanowning That's good. I would hate for this to be the last we hear of the NCR. The Bear shall not go quietly!

    • @bunnitomoe3866
      @bunnitomoe3866 Месяц назад +6

      ​@@Ryanowning i like to believe that the ncr is still very much active in the north (where most of fallout 2 takes place) and to some extent the south around Baja California. The areas around The Boneyard and Shady Sands is a lawless region for the time being but hopefully soon will be pacify back into the republic

    • @lawofanubis2996
      @lawofanubis2996 Месяц назад +2

      I just hope the Rangers still exist. Best group of the NCR

  • @konradmostek1311
    @konradmostek1311 Месяц назад +11

    News about destuction of Shady Sands in Fallout series hit me way harder that i could ever expect
    I was actually shocked and sad, its insane!

  • @marimcgee8379
    @marimcgee8379 Месяц назад +50

    We're not going quietly, the Legion will count on that!

  • @nicktechnubyte1184
    @nicktechnubyte1184 Месяц назад +104

    Preston: another settlement needs your help

  • @whatafineday_9410
    @whatafineday_9410 Месяц назад +6

    The NCR could possibly have roughly around a million citizens in the year 2296 since it was about 700k in Fallout 2 and Shady Sands blown up only got rid of about 35k residents or 5% or less of the total population
    So the NCR is definitely still a big and major faction and the characters in the show said Shady Sands was the NCR’s first capitol, so they are alluding that they already have a replacement capitol already

  • @Captain23rdGaming
    @Captain23rdGaming Месяц назад +43

    Ncr: *Building life back better*
    Vault-tec: we dont do that here

  • @vishaansingh1019
    @vishaansingh1019 Месяц назад +36

    Imagine if Star Wars said "Yeah the New Republic collapsed 20 years later after their capital blew up..." oh wait, they also literally did that LMAO

    • @ethanduncan1646
      @ethanduncan1646 Месяц назад +1

      Its just is Star Wars all over again with letting hacks control of the franchise to appeal to the plebian masses for short term profit

  • @idcgaming518
    @idcgaming518 Месяц назад +70

    Its... honestly a shame this happened. But, if the Legion is gone too (and we havent seen any sign of them), then the NCR has dealt with the most dangerous threat to civilisation, and there might still be hope for civilisation. Especially if house, and vegas, still lives.

    • @sirroganestevezofnaples3076
      @sirroganestevezofnaples3076 Месяц назад +6

      I think House won.

    • @Ryanowning
      @Ryanowning Месяц назад +1

      @@sirroganestevezofnaples3076 "War, war never changes."
      Fallout 1 and 2 already established that your decisions have very little impact. Fallout is a cosmic horror whereby the element that makes it cosmic horror is the illusion of choice.

    • @timothyneeck2680
      @timothyneeck2680 Месяц назад +8

      Honestly, given the Roman style names that keep popping up in the show's BoS, I wonder if some Legion remnants got absorbed there...

    • @Ryanowning
      @Ryanowning Месяц назад +1

      @@timothyneeck2680 Wouldn't be surprised. Caesar's legion was going to collapse no matter what the player chose.

    • @yseson_
      @yseson_ Месяц назад +2

      I think the Brotherhood absorbed the Legion

  • @SapphireCrusader1988
    @SapphireCrusader1988 Месяц назад +14

    I can't wait to hear "REMEMBER SHADY SANDS!!!" in Season 2.

  • @gnarkgnarkgnarkgnark1933
    @gnarkgnarkgnarkgnark1933 Месяц назад +34

    THE BONEYARD REMEMBERS ! DOWN WITH THE BROTHERHOOD ! UP WITH THE COMMON MAN !

    • @Skiritai
      @Skiritai Месяц назад +1

      The Brotherhood that bested the Master at Mariposa, and challenged the Enclave at Navarro? If not for us, you'd be muties.

    • @GabeNsApostle
      @GabeNsApostle Месяц назад +7

      @@SkiritaiIt was the NCR that bested the Enclave. The BOS just swooped in to steal the shiny power armour. Also, you’re sounding a lot like the Enclave.

    • @theduke9292
      @theduke9292 Месяц назад +10

      @@Skiritaithe same brotherhood that did nothing and sent the Vault Dweller on a suicide mission and then took credit when he did all the work?
      Or the same brotherhood that sat on its ass until after the fall of the Poseidon Oil rig? And don’t forget it was a joint NCR BOS force that took Navarro

    • @Skiritai
      @Skiritai Месяц назад

      @@theduke9292 Oh right, because securing the perimeter sure is doing nothing. And let's not pretend the Brotherhood wasnt the Enclave's only true adversary, what was the NCR going to do? Throw rocks?

    • @theduke9292
      @theduke9292 Месяц назад +4

      @@Skiritai same thing they did at Hellios

  • @beepbop6542
    @beepbop6542 Месяц назад +15

    This is like if the first Game of Thrones book ended with Kings Landing being burnt by dragons. So much wasted potential for a genuinely interesting post-post apocalyptic story of politics, civil strife, militarism, etc.

    • @Ryanowning
      @Ryanowning Месяц назад +6

      No it isn't LOL
      Shadey Sands was already established to be the FIRST capital of the NCR.

    • @beepbop6542
      @beepbop6542 Месяц назад +4

      @@Ryanowning Shady Sands is THE capital, until the show.

    • @Ryanowning
      @Ryanowning Месяц назад +1

      @@beepbop6542 You should watch some lore videos because perhaps it's not obvious what's happening if you only finished NCR or House.

    • @babyfaec
      @babyfaec Месяц назад

      @@Ryanowning do you actually have a quote from a game or something? cause I've never heard of it being referred to as first capitol in any of the games lore.

    • @Ryanowning
      @Ryanowning Месяц назад

      @@babyfaec The lore before the show primarily was about how the NCR are struggling and the war in New Vegas was a distraction to unite the people behind a common goal. Not to mention they actually needed the power to fuel their economy for future war efforts.
      Failing to obtain the dam themselves proved to have predictable results.

  • @jamesmmcgill
    @jamesmmcgill Месяц назад +25

    *New California, you have won this heart of mine!*

    • @wolverine3219
      @wolverine3219 5 дней назад

      I KNOW WHEN I DIE, I SHALL BREATHE MY LAST SIGH FOR MY SUNNY CALIFORNIA!

  • @S.Collins
    @S.Collins Месяц назад +67

    Surely The Comments Will Be Civil

    • @Discotekh_Dynasty
      @Discotekh_Dynasty Месяц назад +2

      Real

    • @sonicalex2536
      @sonicalex2536 Месяц назад +1

      Today I will sort by new in the comment section of a video about the Fallout show
      *clueless*

    • @Ace-Intervention
      @Ace-Intervention 27 дней назад

      As civil as the wasteland, yes

  • @martinroosjen
    @martinroosjen Месяц назад +6

    I hope we find out in season 2, that there is another shady sands, still run by the ncr, and in the correct place and with the correct population of 700k +

  • @owenparris7490
    @owenparris7490 Месяц назад +12

    The Republic will rise from the ashes! Remember Shady Sands!

  • @atlasprime6193
    @atlasprime6193 25 дней назад +3

    It’s so heartbreaking that all of our hard work in Fallout 1, 2, and. NV was destroyed. Shady Sands was nuked, some NCR Ranger reduced to lead manufacturers or farmers, some officers of the NCR helping criminals operate drug den, and the NCR itself reduced to hermit settlements. Even until the very end, they still fought to better humanity with unlimited resources. Despite their flaws, their core trait was to always help improve people’s lives. Out of all the factions, they were beaten down the most. I hope season 2 show it isn’t really as bad as we see it in season 1, and that it was only contained in that small area.

  • @sausagedogs100
    @sausagedogs100 Месяц назад +37

    bold move releasing this video whilst the chalkboard debate is still fresh and toxic lol

    • @Falloutlover1011
      @Falloutlover1011 Месяц назад +15

      We got confirmation that the nuke dropped after NV’s events

    • @sausagedogs100
      @sausagedogs100 Месяц назад +6

      @@Falloutlover1011 yes, thankfully, but I think some people are still treating it as a lore break because they got so emotionally invested in the argument

    • @josiadorthestrong1031
      @josiadorthestrong1031 Месяц назад +6

      We know New Vegas is still canon, so the argument is kind of moot.

    • @mrdrebin123
      @mrdrebin123 Месяц назад +4

      ​@@josiadorthestrong1031 Vegas is far from Shady sands.. And by FNV NCR was stretched thin, but also had 5 major cities under it's belt...And I do believe Shady Sands is referred to in FNV as the "FORMER" capitol of the NCR...So Shady sands could very well have been "Kaboomed" before the events of FNV, which could also lend explanation as to why the NCR doesn't wish to abandon it's campaign in New Vegas, and why Soldiers are mostly sent to "New Vegas" for R n R instead of venturing back home.
      Series is said to be canon as is the games.. I think there's just a bit of "Screw up" with the dates, but even if not the series of events would be during the campaign in FNV or leading to the campaign shady sands was Kaboomed.. And who cares? The Two-headed bear will still bring democracy to the wasteland, and no tin-can man with "cum-for-brains" or idiots with spears will stop that.

    • @manny7289
      @manny7289 Месяц назад

      @@josiadorthestrong1031 we were unsure before this interview, so it kinda muddied everything up.

  • @caolanmcflynn2412
    @caolanmcflynn2412 Месяц назад +14

    Hopefully the ncr will rebuild scene there still around by new vegas

  • @mrdrebin123
    @mrdrebin123 Месяц назад +11

    I am just here wishing.. Hoping for Joshua Graham....."Who are you?" *Badass monologue about to start* "I was baptised twice... Once in water... Once in flames.....I am the right hand of the lord and the instrument of his vengeance."

  • @songjunw8981
    @songjunw8981 Месяц назад +19

    Todd Howard, Give us back our great New California Republic and New Vegas!

    • @DarkRipper117
      @DarkRipper117 Месяц назад +2

      All praise God Howard....

    • @songjunw8981
      @songjunw8981 Месяц назад +4

      @@DarkRipper117 he's a False God.

    • @nicholaswesoloskie7194
      @nicholaswesoloskie7194 Месяц назад +7

      @@songjunw8981he just confirmed that the NCR is still alive

    • @songjunw8981
      @songjunw8981 Месяц назад +2

      Still mad about the destruction of Shady Sand.

  • @WhoisPersona
    @WhoisPersona Месяц назад +7

    Releasing the Video seven days after the series dropped. Well played Templin Institute.

  • @EmmLoaf
    @EmmLoaf Месяц назад +2

    Shady Sands lives in all of our hearts. We wont go quietly, Vault Tec can count on that.

  • @LMarti13
    @LMarti13 Месяц назад +3

    omg that stillshot made me realize the show depicted the obelisk 😭

  • @Dripularstein
    @Dripularstein Месяц назад +5

    I dont understand how shady sands is located inside of LA? Im sure it was a bit faaar away from the city and began as a village near vault 15

    • @coybold5303
      @coybold5303 Месяц назад +1

      This is the alternative history Fallout, where they built a farming community in the ruins of a city for some reason.

  • @themooch6674
    @themooch6674 Месяц назад +11

    We got our nuclear winter boys

  • @TheDelver
    @TheDelver Месяц назад +5

    I have always wanted to see what a fully realized Shady Sands would look like. We only get glimpses at its early construction in the original two games, but I would absolutely love to see a fully realized version of the city before it's destruction. Does it look like a pre-war city? Does it look more modern? I really want to know!

    • @LewisB3217
      @LewisB3217 Месяц назад +4

      We get a glimpse of it in the show flashbacks, they have a tram, large farms, it’s very pre war feeling minus the pre war abundance of tech

    • @GTtwothousand
      @GTtwothousand Месяц назад

      ​@@LewisB3217it was close to pre war, getting there with tech slowly also since they managed to make a public transport system

  • @GotHoai
    @GotHoai Месяц назад +3

    Didn't think the wasteland could get anymore depressing

  • @Dirtyblue929
    @Dirtyblue929 Месяц назад +16

    still assblasted about the fact that they moved it from near the Sierras to the middle of LA lol /hj

    • @hellfish2309
      @hellfish2309 Месяц назад +1

      Based on the show, it’s somewhere immediately north of LA, like Glendale

    • @Dirtyblue929
      @Dirtyblue929 Месяц назад +10

      @@hellfish2309 yeah most likely, still BS that they retconned it to being in the middle of a pre-war city (you can see ruined skyscrapers in the background even in flashbacks to its prosperous heyday) when its whole appeal and symbolic status is predicated on it _not_ being built from the ruins of the old world

    • @Skiritai
      @Skiritai Месяц назад

      ​@@Dirtyblue929Building on the edge of Death Valley is kinda retarded.

  • @DrLeperchaun
    @DrLeperchaun Месяц назад +2

    THE BEAR STILL HAS ANOTHER HEAD! FOR THE REPUBLIC!

  • @corypowercat7277
    @corypowercat7277 Месяц назад +1

    I'm glad they made the place look built up (like Cali is supposed to look).

  • @jordanhunt2210
    @jordanhunt2210 Месяц назад +6

    Templin Institute really out here bringing the healing energy to this dumb debate lol

  • @bluespace6199
    @bluespace6199 Месяц назад +8

    "Lets go out with a BANG!!!"
    Shady Sands: Bet

  • @Unregistered.Hypercam.2.
    @Unregistered.Hypercam.2. Месяц назад +6

    ate broerood uv steel
    ate the enclave
    ate the legion
    luv me rangers
    luv me NCR
    and luv me california....
    SIMPLE AS

  • @Lyndonmaman
    @Lyndonmaman Месяц назад

    "Shady Sands....was different."
    That delivery was amazing, my guy. I now need that quote on a shirt.

  • @12stem.b-obenita
    @12stem.b-obenita Месяц назад +1

    The bear can never be subdued for the other head is still alive and kicking

  • @abyssbun444
    @abyssbun444 Месяц назад +1

    Which of these make a good war cry?
    “For Shady Sands!”
    “Remember Shady Sands!”
    “The bear still stands, to avenge Shady Sands!”

  • @anonviewerciv
    @anonviewerciv Месяц назад +6

    Like the 343 Industries approach to introducing a new story: hit the reset button. 🔁💥🌇

    • @Ryanowning
      @Ryanowning Месяц назад +3

      No, they've confirmed nothing has been retconned here. You're just making an ass pull of an assumption.
      (Except maybe the placement of Shadey Sands, but most likely it's due to the residents realizing that Death Valley is too deadly for them)

    • @anonviewerciv
      @anonviewerciv Месяц назад +2

      I didn't say anything about a retcon, just as Halo Infinite wasn't one either. All the fans of this show seem to have the same script or something. 📄

    • @Ryanowning
      @Ryanowning Месяц назад

      @@anonviewerciv Ah, I see, you're horribly butthurt from recent failures in the industry. Can't say I fault you, but you are making a generalization by assuming this is a reset. Shadey Sands was not the entirety of the NCR, it was the FIRST capital. In fact, it could only have fallen because New Vegas happened. It would have been basically impossible for it to NOT have fallen given the events of New Vegas.
      It's what happens when you send half your army away to fight in distant lands. You know, like Rome. If you're not an absolute fool you'd notice that NEW VEGAS references this... ALL the timelines talk about NCR back home being in turmoil. Granted, they probably had a different storyline in mind originally (civil war most likely), but you have to be a tool to think this doesn't fit.
      Besides, you evidently don't know about the interview that confirmed the NCR are returning in overwhelming force next season. Sounds like absolute fooking awesome story telling to me, "Remember Shadey Sands!" Vault Tech is about to get an asswhoppin.

    • @anonviewerciv
      @anonviewerciv Месяц назад

      Butthurt? Buddy, I'm not the one writing multiple paragraphs on some streaming series. 🤓
      EDIT: And buddy deletes his long comment.

    • @Ryanowning
      @Ryanowning Месяц назад +3

      @@anonviewerciv LOL you are the one complaining about it though!😂🤣😂

  • @battlesheep2552
    @battlesheep2552 Месяц назад +2

    "Pay Taxes" -Tax Lord Kimball

  • @jacobwalker3060
    @jacobwalker3060 Месяц назад

    Loving the content! You guys really really need to cover the Impossible Mission Force (IMF)

  • @LewisB3217
    @LewisB3217 Месяц назад +4

    I love the NCR 🗣️

  • @TornadoADV
    @TornadoADV Месяц назад +3

    Todd Howard just doesn't want Fallout to move beyond a tribalistic hellhole. Gutting the NCR was his way at waving his dick at Interplay/Obsidian's lore.

    • @draco_1876
      @draco_1876 Месяц назад

      Ikr. It’s been 200 years and he wants the world to look like it’s been nukes yesterday. He needs to let it go.

  • @mrdrebin123
    @mrdrebin123 Месяц назад +2

    6:13 Hmm I thought Ideas were bulletproof? Some guy in mask told me..

  • @usonly101
    @usonly101 20 дней назад

    I only played Fallout 3, Vegas and F4, I had no idea there was another nuclear war almost a hundred years later. That’s insane!!

  • @kevinlane1219
    @kevinlane1219 Месяц назад +1

    I now understand what Maximus meant by "Everyone wants to save the world, they just disagree on how." As long as people disagree and the means to make the world a better place, conflict is inevitable because such disagreements make conflict appear necessary. Furthermore, war NEVER changes; that's one of the most famous lines in the franchise, so obviously, people (not just men) will always need to chance, though I'm uncertain what about them needs to change.

  • @lsthero5863
    @lsthero5863 17 дней назад

    Historian here, war changes, often to be way more brutal than before. WWI and WWII were prime examples of that

  • @PatrickNerdu744
    @PatrickNerdu744 Месяц назад +3

    *NCR IS NOT YET LOST!*

  • @ernestoparedes5792
    @ernestoparedes5792 Месяц назад +4

    Is an alternate history, Shady Sands is in L.A. now. hahahahaha 😉😉😉😉 Fucking chaos

  • @kevind3974
    @kevind3974 Месяц назад +1

    82. It was bombed by Hank/vault tech not long after the end of new vages

  • @captainspacebones3795
    @captainspacebones3795 Месяц назад +1

    I hope No-bark Noonan is alive to tell what happened in New Vegas in his usual rambling mad man way

  • @RoyalGriffin99
    @RoyalGriffin99 Месяц назад

    "For a short time, the light of civilization shone on the California wastelands, a beacon of hope for a better tomorrow. A mighty Bear capable of challenging the Knights of Steel and the Bull Legions, able to drive out the Jackals and Vipers and destroy the Khans. But now the Bear is no more, killed not by his enemies, but by those who, for their own greed, were able to destroy the world and betray all who trusted them."-Eulogy for NCR

  • @ToddSoloStory
    @ToddSoloStory Месяц назад

    I got to this point in the show and was genuinely trying to figure out why people were so angry, because that flashback is actually exactly how I imagined Shady Sands looked in Fallout 2. Aesthetically/architecturally, I mean. Like that city hall building with the obelisk. Etc. It looked like the 2D townscape reimagined in 3D. A sort of Wild West frontier town built inside the ruins of the old world.
    If they’re angry about Shady Sands being destroyed, I almost understand that. But also, remind me what this entire series’ tag line is again? Something about war and how it doesn’t change, maybe?

  • @Emanon...
    @Emanon... Месяц назад

    I don't mind things missing limbs and other stuff. It's when there are more eyes, heads, appendages etc that freaks me the fuck out.

  • @Anonymous-zu7dh
    @Anonymous-zu7dh Месяц назад +1

    Funny, I was just watching your old video on the enclave. more fallout content? yep that's a quick click.

  • @rodolfopalafox9948
    @rodolfopalafox9948 Месяц назад +2

    Remember Shady Sands

  • @Kaiju-Driver
    @Kaiju-Driver Месяц назад

    Very nice. I love Fallout content.

  • @cmdraftbrn
    @cmdraftbrn Месяц назад +1

    and the heart of the desert still beats strong

  • @thenewadventuresofhenry6998
    @thenewadventuresofhenry6998 Месяц назад

    That's pretty damn inspiring.

  • @feralprocessor9853
    @feralprocessor9853 Месяц назад

    Right off the bat, two buildings in a wastland.

  • @richmay56
    @richmay56 Месяц назад +2

    Remember the Shady Sands!

  • @CalobAdamsInfamous913
    @CalobAdamsInfamous913 22 дня назад

    The biggest issue is that isn’t the original Shady Sands in the show because the original Shady Sands is near Vault 13.

  • @obiwankenobi4801
    @obiwankenobi4801 Месяц назад

    the saddest thing is big chance that tax lord kimball and general lee oliver is still in shady sands when it exploded

  • @georgecopers5071
    @georgecopers5071 Месяц назад

    At the end was that fan art of Elder Maxson leading Brotherhood survivors from a Prydwn wreckage?

  • @gryoluther7242
    @gryoluther7242 Месяц назад +16

    Todd said the bombs fell after NV, but the bombs fell in 2277. New Vegas takes place in 2281.

    • @buddygamesdev
      @buddygamesdev Месяц назад

      The Fall is in 2277. You'll see the arrow continues to point to the bomb. The fall is likely referring to a real famine that is mentioned as the coverup for why Rose MacLean died. Either way, Todd said it's after New Vegas, so it's after New Vegas.

    • @Syncr0w
      @Syncr0w Месяц назад +9

      The bomb that destroyed Shady Sands, not the great war.

    • @causticchan4617
      @causticchan4617 Месяц назад +3

      @@Syncr0w he has a point bro ur mistaken the great war was in 2077 not 2277

    • @Syncr0w
      @Syncr0w Месяц назад

      @@causticchan4617 I think Im beginning to see the misunderstanding over this issue on the internet. My bad.

    • @Jamez229
      @Jamez229 Месяц назад +12

      2277 is the year that the "Fall of Shady Sands" begins. That likely doesn't mean it was the actual year that the nuke detonated, but the beginning of an era of the city's downfall. To paraphrase from JuiceHead, the "Fall of Rome" is a lengthy period of time, even if the city of Rome fell on a specific date.
      It's likely that the timeline is implying that things began to go down hill for Shady Sands in 2277. That was the year the NCR won the First Battle of Hoover Dam, but it was a costly victory. It seems to imply that Shady Sands' downfall as a settlement started there, and then some years later - after the events of New Vegas - the city was destroyed by an atomic blast.

  • @amk4956
    @amk4956 Месяц назад +2

    The NCR will rise again

  • @rokmun680
    @rokmun680 Месяц назад

    do you have a map that shows the pre-show and post-show positions of shady sands?

  • @johnjr9997
    @johnjr9997 Месяц назад

    I want lucy to hear stories of all the previous vault dwellers who United the wasteland or destroyed it.
    It would be a nice twist on her new perspective knowing that other vaults were doomed for failure

  • @CraigSteinhoff
    @CraigSteinhoff Месяц назад +1

    Does anyone wonder how Shady Sands moved south closer to the bone yard in the show?

    • @aardappelmethoed1151
      @aardappelmethoed1151 Месяц назад

      Seems like they retconned its position, as it was to my knowledge in death valley in FO1 before changing position in FO2 and now the show. Thats one of my few complaints about the show; no sense of geography and location, people seemingly finding each other in the middle of nowhere

  • @itsmike2736
    @itsmike2736 Месяц назад +2

    LONG LIVE THE NCR

  • @RavenStorm332
    @RavenStorm332 Месяц назад +1

    War Never Changes

  • @chaosXP3RT
    @chaosXP3RT Месяц назад

    The most badass depiction of the NCR Army is still the fan-made videos by SODAZ

  • @DippKlippGuy
    @DippKlippGuy 20 дней назад

    It's a good thing the capital is N.C.R; seriously that's the name of the capital and the original Shady Sands

  • @blu30n1gaming
    @blu30n1gaming Месяц назад +1

    Would the real lore Shady please stand up?

  • @fredashay
    @fredashay Месяц назад +1

    Shady Sands is one thing where I've heard people say the show breaks canon with the games.
    I never paid much attention to the exact locations of any of the places, so I have no strong opinion on this either way.

  • @Tojo_cartoons797
    @Tojo_cartoons797 Месяц назад +2

    The enclave got destroyed like twice, ncr can came back

    • @Ryanowning
      @Ryanowning Месяц назад

      Season 2 will almost exclusively be about the NCR's return; it has been confirmed via interview.

  • @Astraeros72
    @Astraeros72 Месяц назад

    It's time for me to start quietly suggesting and hoping that the ISDF or Scions from Battlezone2 get covered

  • @neves5083
    @neves5083 Месяц назад

    Never forget Shady Sands

  • @shresh5156
    @shresh5156 Месяц назад +1

    Glory to the New Californian republic! Down with the brotherhood ! (i kinda feel like Bos got enclaved or something they kinda sus)

  • @mingchoi8369
    @mingchoi8369 Месяц назад

    In the end, Shady Sands ended up suffering the same fate as much of the old world. However, New California is not just one city - it's more of an idea that a broken world can be remade into something worth fighting for.
    I wonder if the next Fallout game will include references to Amazon Prime's series.
    Yeah, I think you should do updated versions of older Fallout videos like the NCR, the Brotherhood of Steel, and Vault-Tec as the series goes on.

  • @chrisw443
    @chrisw443 Месяц назад +1

    The NCR will never die.

    • @adamskaocelot8382
      @adamskaocelot8382 Месяц назад +1

      It will and should. Old world ideas have old world problems. NCR was doomed from the start when they made their Republic in the form of the Republic that ended civilization as we know it.

  • @Karma92008
    @Karma92008 Месяц назад +4

    Its illegal to be this early

  • @FrostyWheats
    @FrostyWheats Месяц назад

    We won’t go quietly, the wasteland can count on that

  • @wittycognomen4931
    @wittycognomen4931 Месяц назад

    The Enclave never forgives or forgets.
    We remember and resent…

  • @cheemzdeemz4767
    @cheemzdeemz4767 14 дней назад

    "Where the fuck is shady sands?" Some random ncr ranger returning to where once was shady sands but now is just desert for some reason