Can HYDROGEN cars destroy ELECTRIC cars?
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Why isn't this technology further forward than it is? Is this a viable future alternative to electric, which is better? Let me know your thoughts?
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Another advantage of Hydrogen over EVs it they are reliant on having a suitable electric grid which is needed to support all the EVs.
I certainly hope this technology takes off as I feel it is a better solution than the EV, which we also know had a huge impact on the environment to make the batteries.
The answer in an emphatic NO. However, if they could produce the Hydrogen to power the cars in the quantities required. The answer could change but that nowhere near yet
Hydrogen currently needs something like 5kwh of electricity to make 1kwh or hydrogen in liquid form. It makes more ecological sense to just put your 5kwhs in batteries.
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I believe hydrogen is the future and EV is a transient stepping stone
Hello greetings from Portugal, you forgot about the Honda Clarity, there is a short documentary by James May "Top Geer" unless I'm mistaken in 2012. And now I'll add about the tests of BMW, Airbus, RollsRoyc the aviation engine division and this year Toyota started developing a hydrogen generator for cars, hugs.
Indeed but that was discontinued due to poor sales.
I'm more for hydrogen than electric and there's also the hydrogen internal combination engine as well but you didn't mention that.
Hydrogen is dead - it was a terrible idea in the first place.
You can only make enough for mass transport in 2 ways , 1. By splitting it from fossil fuels and 2. by passing electricity through water. Both methods require more energy to split the hydrogen out than you get back in the energy value of the hydrogen you make (ignoring the environmental impact of splitting from fossil fuels for the time-being)
The hydrogen you make from either method only gets you 40% as far as using that same electricity / energy in a battery electric vehicle, it's terribly inefficient.
Hydrogen is very difficult to transport, store and dispense, every hydrogen pump costs $2.5million USD to install. A hydrogen station can only fill 50-60 cars before it needs to be refilled itself. Because of the high pressure needed once you back to back fill 5 or so cars you need to wait an hour before the filling station can re-establish enough pressure to fill the next car.
It costs over $200 USD to fill a Mirai in the USA now, California is the only state with public pumps and Shell have pulled out of the game there. Hydrogen providers in the Nordic states are pulling out fast as well, there are videos of abandoned HCEVs next to decommissioned stations because there is now nowhere in the country to fill up.
Toyota make a massive loss on every Mirai sale, the fuel cells last 7-8 years and cost more than the original purchase price of the car to replace.
That is very interesting, thank you
I hope not 😢 EVs are part o ecosystem because electricity is everywhere.. hydrogen nowhere 🎉
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There was a guy back in the 1950s here inthe States who developed an engine that ran on just water yes I said water the big three car makers and the gas and oil companies got together and bought it out and buried it the plains the prototype that he made that work buy the way and just buried it so it would never see the light of day into about 25 years ago but the car companiesclaimed it wouldbe to expensiveto make and change over too, just plain old every day water !
Yes, I heard about that before. Very mysterious circumstances I believe.
There is no such thing as a "water engine" and can never be, the first law of thermodynamics means that it will always take more energy to liberate the hydrogen and oxygen from the water than the energy it produces. EVERY single claim in this area has been proven to be an investment fraud for gullible people.
The problem with Hydrogen is that most of it (93%) is made from fossil fuel, which is part of the reason oils companies are trying to push it. If you make it using electrolysis it requires a large amount of electricity to manufacture, this electricity can be more efficiently used by battery ev’s. Hydrogen is also hugely inefficient compared to battery cars.
Hydrogen can be burnt in a combustion engine, but temperatures need to be kept low to avoid nox emissions.
Hydrogen has very small molecules and thus easily leaks, it also causes metal to become brittle so it does have some significant drawbacks to overcome.
Fuel cells also use precious metals in their construction.
Personally I don’t think hydrogen is the answer, I think more research needs to be done on alternative fuels and hybrid technology.
I know hydrogen takes an awful lot of electric and water to make.
You need to get back to making your value scoot videos.
I will...just trying to organise some as hardly any in the area now.