Sorry for arriving late to this, but I have to say the dignified summary and narrative from Des Lynham is absolutely outstanding. Measured, informative, with reigned in emotion. Exactly the right tone. I am sure that he must have been as horrified and sickened as anyone and yet he kept it together in extraordinary circumstances. Other participants, such as Peter Jones, and Jimmy Hill were clearly shocked, but put in words what had to be said. Immense broadcasting.
I have to add that Jimmy Hill, the man that changed the face of modern football by breaking the old wages system was absolutely on the mark here again. He was often a figure of fun but I would urge anybody to listen to the last 5 minutes at the very least. Jimmy Hill knew his stuff.
Absolutely right. Jimmy Hill behind his bravado was a highly intelligent man. He basically gave a highlights of a report that wasn't official for another 27 years.
I never liked Jimmy Hill but he was right on the button! RIP to the 96 Thoughts and blessing to all the families and those who tried to help. And the lies were so disgusting! An avoidable incident.. about time the heads of police roll! They've got away with it for almost 30 years!
Well done Jimmy Hill there at the end. While everybody else was being uptight and cautious in taking a stand, he absolutely nailed the big picture of it all in just a few words.
Incredibly moving, measured and very professional coverage from Des and Jimmy. They got right to the heart of the issue so early on - the lack of a hooligan cause, the opening of the gate by the police and the need for all seater stadia, which all of course turned out to be the conclusions of the enquiry. Staggering to think of how many people attended football matches at the likes of Bradford, Heysel and Hillsborough and didn't come home again. Football truly was a different world back then.
Of course the 39 must be respected on another terrible day for football. Plenty of guilty fans were charged and prosecuted for what happened in 1985 and rightly so. The 97 were guilty of nothing. Nobody has been prosecuted for what happened at Hillsborough
Des and Jimmy the ultimate professionals and handled the whole situation superbly. Not sure the current MOD presenters would do such a good job. RIP the 96
i see nothing i wouldnt expect. Some of his questions are too searching for the wrong answer in my opinion. Mis-managed? By whom Des? He;s already apportioning blame with no knowledge whatsoever. Even worse he suggests Semi Finals should be played -spit- at the repugnant wemb;er;ley
it is astonishing that a key man in charge of the FA has no opinion on what happened and what needs to be done, but a sports reporter was able to succinctly break down what happened, explain what went wrong, and what needed to be done to stop things in the future. gutless bureaucrats, never change.
Graham Kelly was useless as the FA Chief Executive. Did nothing for the game in the country and had no clue what to do for football in England. An utter wanker, if you ask me
In fairness, he couldn’t say anything. Firstly he was clearly as affected by the horror unfolding as anyone, secondly he rightly refused to speculate, to comment on things he couldn’t know at that time. He had to stonewall and did. If this happened today the airwaves would be full of stupid knee jerk comments from those who cared only for the short term. This was dignified, adult, and how discourse of this nature should be conducted. Even Peter Wright was responsible and cautious- allowing an inquiry to do its job not hiding behind it. ( I know Kelvin Mackenzie blew all this sky high days later but invited buckets of brown stuff by doing so)
I remember watching this as a then 12 year old having just got back from Villa Park with my mate and his dad having been at the Everton v Norwich semi final and remember the queues at phone boxes (in the days before mobiles) after the game as Blues phoned about friends and family members who were at Hillsborough. 27 years on and we finally get justice the 96. It just shows what strength we have inside our beloved City.
I fell in love with Merseyside when I visited Liverpool for the first time in 2015. The city is fantastic, the people are tremendous and the unity the population have in the face of this injustice is inspiring. The authorities chose the wrong city to smear when it comes to what happened. I was only a baby of 3 months old when Hillsborough happened, so it's hard for me to imagine the horror of what happened. When I was at Aintree for the Grand National last year, I got chatting with someone who told me that they were there. And I was stunned into silence, I had no idea what to say to someone who lived through such a horrific day and nearly 30 years since. All I could do was offer my condolences to the guy (he never told me his name), and he appreciated it. Liverpool is a city that will not be divided by those who are outside it, making judgements from afar, and its this tenacious spirit that made me love the area. Much respect from myself 👍
As a forest fan stood the other end i can say that the central pen was full a good half an hour if not more before kick off, the side pens where virtually empty. It beggars belief that the tunnel wasn't closed off before they opened the outer gate It was totally the polices fault proper choked watching this, LOVE to the LFC family YNWA
Thanks, despite the rivalry your fans were superb on the day after the news spread. On the anniversary’s the people of Nottingham stopped and paid there respects. Your kind gestures will never be forgotten. Also the people of Sheffield were of great help and comfort helping fans ring home and offering lifts home etc. Been 30 years, seems like yesterday, hold your loved ones close. Life is so fragile
@@lewismonkeyboykennedyynwa6745 The Forest fans were (initially) booing because they didn't know what was happening or why the game had been stopped. From the perspective of the Forest end it looked at first like the Liverpool fans were being rowdy and invading the pitch - they had no idea that at the Liverpool end people were being crushed and trying to escape. When the ambulances started to arrive and people were being stretchered off then it became obvious what had tragically happened. At that point the Forest end fell into mournful silence. Tributes were held in Nottingham for the tragedy which were attended by thousands. No disrespect was shown by the Forest fans and the people of Nottingham towards Liverpool. Some things are bigger than football, and when something like that happens competition and rivalry go out the window.
As soon as the Forest fans knew that some type of disaster was happening and that people were seriously injured, some fatally, they acted like we would all act. Quietly, stunned silence in fact, apart from applauding the brilliant efforts of the Liverpool fans in carrying their fellow fans on stretchers and carrying out first aid.
yjd rxc i know. Why they didn’t do that I will never know. They always used to shut the central tunnel off when the central pens were full. They did it at the 2 previous semi finals and at league and cup games where there was a large away following. Mind you on the 15th April 1989 there was an officer in charge who had replaced the previous guy ( who knew about the problems that could occur at the leppings lane end and also knew what he was doing) 3 weeks beforehand and hadn’t been to a football game for over 10 years!! That end was a known death trap and all it needed was a few things to go wrong to kill people. That unfortunately happened that day.
Jimmy Hill's final comment not only show's how forward thinking he was , but also how Football authorities , police and goverments thought of football supporters , we were just an annoyance to them . JFT96 from a West Ham supporter
It's times like these that make all supporters, no matter what team they support , join together in unity at the tragic deaths of those 96. I as a kid supported Manchester United, but this day I cried my eyes out for those Liverpool fans.
RIP to the now, 97, and massive respect to all the people who helped their fellow fans on the day. Finally, I’m still in awe of the people of Liverpool, who still after 34 years haven’t seen proper justice. Your fight and comradeship is a lesson to us all ❤
I was in a near riot in The Jungle at Celtic Park when we played Manchester United in a friendly in the late 1980's. It was terrifying to be crushed, lifted, tossed and smothered by a sea of bodies. What those people suffered in Sheffield is unimaginable.
This report is generally a very fair and accurate account. They emphasise the good behaviour of the Liverpool fans and point out the safety flaws in the stadium design and the obvious overcrowding which caused the crush.
Oh, that's heart wrenching. I really admire Lynam's stoicism, especially as he was there when it happened. I'm so glad there's been a positive result in court - but it should not have taken 27 years.
Jimmy Hill - legend. Absolutely spot on. I remember exactly where I was when this was happening and I wish I didn't. I just hope standing room at stadiums never comes back.
You Scousers should be extremely proud of your great city. Justice has finally been served for the 96. Gone but never forgotten... You'll Never Walk Alone! :-)
+David James well yer every tragerdy matters and i think yu know that so stop trying to get a reaction on the internet cos ya lonley people who use tragerdys to make a name for themselves like yu sicken me
@@davidparkinson6372 does every disaster have to be listed, to not offend one group. No one is belittling any other event that happens in history. However a good event to highlight is the 1981 spurs v wolves semi final, where almost the same event unfolded in the leppings Lane end. Luckily then the rush wasn't as big but there was 100s of fans that climbed over tje fence and just sat around the pitch side to watch the game. FFW 8 years and nothing was learnt from it.
Des was at Hillsborough as he had presented Grandstand from there. John Motson was the commentator. But of course it wasn't live. It was being recorded for Match of the Day. We only went live once it was a news story and terrible tragedy
It's been a while since I've watched this. Brilliant, respectful journalism and comment from Lynam, Hill and Sinstadt, on one of the most tragic of disasters. Didn't take the police chief long to knock up a ridiculous story and total denial of the factors that contributed.
There's been a lot of things said about this terrible tragedy, some of which make me really angry. I can only comment on this from my own perspective, and from my own personal experiences. I'm a Man Utd fan, and I was at Hillsborough watching United shortly before this tragic accident took place, and was stood where all those poor people lost their lives. I remember that getting into the stand was quite tricky, as I had to climb over people who were stood in the narrow entries to the stand. I was there quite early, the stand was no where near it's full capacity, and I was stood right in the middle. Someone realised a beach ball and it was getting thrown up in the air and fans were hitting it back and forth in the stand. All of a sudden the ball landed behind me and there was a sudden surge with people trying to hit the ball. With this, I was thrown from the middle of the stand, right to the very front, up against the fence. At the time I thought nothing of it, and me and my friend just laughed and made our way back to where we were standing. Then, a little later, the stand filled up and the game began. The corners of the ground were empty at this end of the stadium for segregation purposes, but as the game went on, it became more and more uncomfortable, and gradually supporters climbed the fences and filled the corners. I remember the stewards saw this but didn't even bat an eyelid as if this was something they were used to. There were metal frames dotted about the stand for fans to lean against, and me and my friend were stood behind one. Suddenly United were on the attack and my friend grabbed my arm and pulled me aside so the frame wasn't in front of me... United scored and the crowd celebrated. I was suddenly thrust forward, my face was up against the fence, but again I thought nothing of it, just continued to cheer and laughed it off. I looked back at where I'd been standing and noticed people being squashed over the metal frame I'd been stood behind. Things like this kept happening all through the game, people were climbing fences back and forth to find a more comfortable spot, fans being thrown up against the fence every time something exciting happened. But again, at the time, we just thought nothing of it. It was all part of the standing experience. We just excepted it and enjoyed the game. The only time I felt a little uneasy is when we left the stand. From the stand to the stadium gates, my feet were about 2 inches from the floor, I was being carried along by the crowd, if I'd have fallen, I would have been fucked. Thinking back now, I feel there was something seriously wrong with that stand, with the design. I'm not quite sure what, whether it was the angle of the floor, the gates, the fences, I don't know. But there was something definitely not right. I'd never experienced anything like that then or since. I know the Liverpool fans rushed the turnstiles, but that kind of thing happened week in and week out, and there was nothing like this that ever happened. I know people will disagree, I know some people blame the police, there's there's even some people who've blamed the fans. But to me, from what I experienced being there, I blame the stand. It just wasn't right.
Jimmy hill showing why he was worth breaking the pay barrier. Spot on in all his views and someone who made the decisions must have been listening and must have taken the advice from the master. Is it a coincidence that very soon after this tragic event the 5yr plan to convert all stadiums to all seated grounds was put in place. Miss you jimmy
It's no coincidence. It was as a result of the Taylor inquiry into this very incident. Taylor being the only official at the time to call it for what it was.
The ninety-seven can rest, high on their cloud The people of Liverpool have done you so proud For so many years, everyone asked how? In God's name why, has it taken til now? Shouts were ignored, for so many years Calls for justice, fell on deaf ears. Pleas for some, to shoulder the blame, But the ninety-seven live on, in their eternal flame. Justice At Last For The 97 - A Manchester United Fan (Edited 28/1/22)
I turn 43 next month and I'm a Liverpool supporter it was yesterday that I finally had the strength to start watching everything on Hillsborough, Anne 1 mother's story and all the small RUclips videos, I balled my eyes out every single second. May the 96 rest easy,YNWA
@@RoyChadwick51such a sad time in football and Liverpool's history and after all of this you would think the governing bodys would have tried harder for this to never happen again, and it almost did not that long ago with Liverpool fans again,
I was 13 when this happened and I remember thinking about the following situation after talking to my grandfather about it who was at many highly attended games: Throughout the 1920's, 30's, right up to the 60's, there were crowds for some games up to and over 100,000 (see many a Rangers V's Celtic game from that time) where there was nothing but terraces and nothing like this ever happened, save for the Ibrox disaster, so for the police to try to blame the fans, forged tickets, drunken violence or anyone but themselves at the time is beyond me. Rest In Peace the 96. I am glad you finally got some form of justice. From a Man City fan. YNWA.
In the old days they did not have the fences to stop people spilling out onto the pitch. The fences where a silly idea, and to put in one tiny escape door added further insult. Not sure who's idea it was. It defeated common sense.
The police only fkd up a situation cozd by scouse fans. Probably the same ones that cozd Heysel. Scousers being scousers. Coz the trouble and blame everyone else
RIP the 96 from an Aston Villa fan May those bastards rot for what they did to you. The real football fans know what happened. The thing that always gets me and brings tears to my eyes are the people who gave CPR and who grabbed fans and dragged them to safety in the upper tiers etc. In the midst of cowardice and lies there was heroism that day.
3:30 “They were helped by fellow Liverpool fans” 3:45 “But again it has to be emphasised, there was no violence of any kind.” These are the comments being broadcast on national TV on the very day. I wasn’t even born then. To those of you who were watching this, and still decided to spew your hatred and lies: SHAME ON YOU. SHAME.
Well said. The problem was though, that the police fed lies to the papers that Liverpool fans were urinating on police and stealing belongings those being treated or that were already dead. That was the shameful part of it!! Police covered it up from the very start
Jay Taylor There were no pickpockets or anybody urinating on the police. Duckenfield was hiding in his little police box which by the way due to it’s location he could have looked at leppings lane pens without cctv and see what wasgoing on. He should have closed to tunnel off too.
Heart-breaking tragedy. RIP 96 and prayers for everyone who was there or had family and/or friends who's lives were affected. May we never forget them.
I was at the Albion v Plymouth that day. 2-2 draw. I was fuming we'd chucked away a two goal lead, to effectively end our play off hopes, until I got home and found out. Justice for the 97. RIP Bradford and Lincoln 56. .
Finally the verdict is out. Total vindication for the 96 and their families and the supporters also in attendance at that match. The 96 were 'unlawfully killed'. JFT96 YNWA. I hope they can now find the peace they deserve after so long fighting for justice.
hi from juve, no justice they are dead , Death is something you cannot repair, our 39 are dead they are dust cold ash underground and your 96 are in the same situation. fuck off Liverpool suffer more and more and more. and you know it you just sing pathetic stupid songs but inside you suffer and Always will. and you know it.
@@user-up9js2xd4h u got your justice strait away when scousers were convicted and locked-up..why did that happen? Coz they got blamed...the police here,diverted the blame..bit like sayn the 39 juve fans died because their fellow juve fans killed them..u sad P.O.S
@@saintlysinner3922 it's completely different! The Liverpool fans were literally crushing each other, can't believe how disgusting Liverpool fans can be, always got to blame someone else rather than take responsibility
@@liamgarde8316 kinel how old r u? Your loathing of scousers outweighs the corrupt police state that was thatchers britain..i undastand lad,believe me i do....so by your default opinion,the miners who got the shit kicked out of them n hospitalíse dafter maggie gave the nod..that's fine to..it was the miners fault for striking,right?
The chairman of Liverpool John Smith said in his interview "this has put our reentry into Europe back". Who cared at the time about that. Poor taste I thought. You compare what he said to what the chairman of forest said and the forest chairman got it spot on.
I Have never seen this video before. Its all their in a nut shell. I could cry watching this. All these years later. A tragic day and a hard video to watch. God bless everyone involved.
Great reporting. Economy-of-words commentary perfectly matching shown images. Good interviewing. And on the very first day here, Jimmy Hill explains exactly what happened and how. What he said was confirmed 27 years later, as mind boggling as it is to take so long to get to the truth. But you can see some of the authorities spinning the lie from the get go. I'd like to know, too, what so-called safety expert first came up with the idea of penning in sports fans, especially with fencing that would not give in a crush like that.
Thank you for sharing this. Very telling that even on the day, the media *was* aware that the crush outside the turnstiles had formed by twenty minutes before kick-off. Hardly counting as 'late arrivals'.
The cover-up was already beginning. Just look at the shameful way the families were treated at the gymnasium that night. Wright had a reputation as a stringent authoritarian who publicly believed the police were always correct; no matter what. Kinda like George H R Bush and the US military.
When you went into the ground at the Leppings Lane entrance there was a massive sign in the middle "STAND" above the entrance to the tunnel that sloped down to the middle pen. Even people who had been a number of times before thought that was the only way in to the standing area / terraces. From the turnstiles / Gate you could not see any other signs pointing to the two side entrances. God Bless the 96.
I went to see a game at Hillsborough Stadium about 7 years with my mum and dad (we had been in Liverpool for the day whilst staying in Huddersfield), and I was *astonished* how little the ground has changed since this. Also, we got there a minute after kick-off and the staff and police happily let us in 4 minutes late. 🙄 This disaster *shouldn't* happen again in modern football or anywhere, but you never know. Heard the Leppings Lane End has been under investigation again for overcrowding during the Sheff Wed-Newcastle cup tie recently.
@@SuperTed19021Some Newcastle fans didn't bother with their seats, but crowded together to make more of a supporting (bunch) to encourage singing etcetera! Leeds fans left their seats and bunched in the corner at the recent derby against Wednesday to goad the Owls fans in the nearby cantalever stand.
I am glad there was justice served for the Liverpool supporters and we will never forget the 96 who died senseless. I pray for the day The Sun will go out of business for that trash paper. #JFT96
To all of the families who never gave up hope i salute you all. What you done was fantastic you should all be very proud of yourelves.... Rip 96. To the police, you should be disgusted with all the lies you told. Justice has finally been done. Those involved with with the lies hopefully will pay for their actions It's never to late.. Well done Liverpool!!
I was only a kid when it happened, but the horror of seeing it on tv will never leave me. The thought of what those people went through in their last moments haunts me. How scared must those people have been... it’s hard to imagine how it would feel to be crushed, it’s impossible to know. I cried when I saw the photos showing the mass of bodies... if the metal fence didn’t have that extra bit on the top, more people might have been pulled free. And if only the metal fences were designed to be able to have them pulled down easily for emergencies.
Lynham seems more forensic, probing and reasonable that the fools from the legal profession who made a complete mess (whether deliberate or otherwise) of this investigation for years afterwards. Hill also perfectly sensible and reasonable. Anyway, truth and justice, finally.
Des was one of the first BBC sports presenters to show genuine empathy to supporters - Hill although cast as a clown against Venables always spoke a lot of sense.
I think cupcakefairy meant the champions League final in Paris. Luckily it was not the same in regards to tragedy. Though very similar with the police lies and corruption!
I was 10 years old when I watched this. As a young, keen football fan I remember thinking to myself 'This isn't football.' It was anything but football. It was the shit side of life. It was a tragedy of epic proportions. For the fans of both clubs to attend a match full of hope and aspirations only to end in death, destruction, shock, grief, heartache, despair and the loss of loved ones, friends and fellow football fans. If this wasn't enough for those concerned to deal with, the Sun newspaper, the Police and the powers at be ensured the pain and anguish was multiplied still further for decades to come. For the police to cover up their own failings with forged statements and the like demonstrated beyond doubt their total lack of remorse for their contribution towards the death and injury of so many men, women and children. Anyone who knows anything about the events that led up in the months, weeks and days leading up to the match will know the Police match commander was a total and complete novice in his role. He should not have been appointed to the role in the first place and most definitely should not have been commanding a match of this magnitude. For all of his failings and lack of experience he shouldn't have been employed in the role he presided over so many deaths. For those who saw it fit to assign such a novice to such a role should have taken ultimate responsibility for the failings that day. The police and the powers at be have done a fine job at muddying the waters in apportioning blame for such failures of such a tragedy and without anyone being prosecuted. So many died as a result of a severe command and control failure by the police that day. It was a systemic failure created by sheer policing incompetence who then attempted to cover up their failings which only compounded the heartache of those affected. What a sorry state of affairs. Even as a 45 year old today I still feel that pain and confusion from watching the TV that day. Some things in life make no sense. How and why was this allowed to happen? Despite knowing the how and why many decades later it still makes no sense. It was a senseless loss of life on a grand scale courtesy of the failings of the police...the organisation whose first duty is to protect life. The police let the Liverpool fans down big time that day. They couldn't have let them down any worse than they did. Thankfully there has been no repeat of such an event in the UK since. It had taken this disaster to improve stadia and crowd control to ensure there has been no repeat. From beyond the grave what the late Jimmy Hill had to say in this video was so true and with such foresight. What he suggested on the day ended up becoming a reality for the safety of all concerned. I feel for all those affected even to this day. My heart goes out to them all. Life goes on but that day will always live on within those so close to such a tragic day. It's impossible to comprehend such loss and such anguish. For those who know what it's like I doubt they will ever get over it but I certainly admire their unity in getting through such a dreadfully awful day together and every day since. To have found such strength in unity thereafter in the face of such horrific adversity is a testament to those who have pulled together and found such strength. For the affected they have shown themselves and the rest of the world the very best of humanity with humility and a level of humbleness impossible to describe. With regards to the 97 who passed away may God bless them all and may I wish they all get to meet their families and friends once again if and when such a time allows. 🙏
Watched coverage on the day, but never seen this full summary of the day from on the day before. Amazing how much they got right on the day before the narrative got changed and distorted in the days, weeks months and years that followed. Des Lynam’s opening commentary is high-class and Gerald Sinstadt is tenacious in his interview with the Chief Constable of South Yorkshire Police.
As an American who supports Chelsea and the England national team this was by far the darkest day in the history of English football. Even though this was seen as an incident caused by incompetent policing in England, the American news media called Hillsborough a fan generated riot just like they did with the Heysel disaster which was ignorant in my view because the fan culture associated with football/soccer wasn’t understood by the American media or the sporting public at the time. It wasn’t until the creation of MLS that soccer fan culture common in Europe and South America was embraced by American supporters creating a greater understanding by the public. As MLS becomes a bigger league I hope a disaster like Hillsborough never happens here in the US. #JusticeForThe96
My mind keeps coming back the friends and families of the '96 who through lies and deceit of the authorities did not live long enough to see the truth come out.
Amazing watching this to see how great British TV, and specifically the BBC once was. The tone is absolutely spot on with it. Its so moving. Given that its directed and presented by sports journalists is astonishing. Des would've made a great political journo. He asks the questions, and gives the interviewee enough time to answer so that they hang themselves. The great Motson spotted the disaster before it even happened Good old Jimmy was more than happy to put his reputation on the line and accurately say where the problem happened. MOTD was filled to the brim with people who understood football, understood its fans, and understood its stadiums. They knew exactly what had happened. What is terrifying is the ease with which the Police chief lied to the BBC just hours after it happened
Des has had quite a broadcasting career including non-sports journalism. According to Wikipedia he even presented the Today programme (Radio 4) for a time, so he certainly had the ability and experience to present in this way.
Rip to the 96 Liverpool fans that lost there lives .that ground is a death trap I've been to Liverpool many times following my team coventry City your fans are class hold your heads up high you never walk alone
+Robot Lover Indeed, yes. That's Stephanie Jones. She was 18 at the time and this was her first away game. Her brother's name is Richard and his girlfriend's name is Tracey. Stephanie has spoken so well on Hillsborough over the years.
Bigger the uniform, the more mistrust should be applied. When asked who my heroes are, the families of the victims of Hillsborough always make my list . RIP 96
Des did an amazing job that day I was 15 years old when this happened the way he came across he was so balanced when asking questions, I remember this day like it was yesterday a horrible day
An absolute tragic, so heart breaking so see the amount of Liverpool supporters being crushed due to poor attention from the police. With all respect to the Liverpool community who never gave up!! RIP to the 96 who died in vain. Love from West Ham supporter
Im a Liverpool fan... I was eleven years old when this happened..I remember vaguely watching it unfold live on BBC grandstand, and this effected me more I think in my later years....This April will be the 30th anniversary... I think as a club...We have not been the same since this fateful day...But looking at this now... Something stunk even then...Just like the heysel stadium disaster back then...Their had been complaints about the hillsborough stadium for years....and then the truth was buried for over twenty years...The victims families of the heysel tragedy should also bring criminal charges against UEFA and the Belgian authorities themselves....
Still distressing to watch after 27 years and as a Supporter of Glasgow Rangers we had our own Tragedy in 1971 when 66 fans died on stairway 13 R.I.P to the 96. Now we have all seater stadiums and world class facilities in place I hope we never ever see anything like this again. I also hope they don't try and bring back standing area's at ground's I still have doubt's that this will work and it makes my blood boil when I see fans standing at matches and refusing to sit down which spoils the view for young children and older fans and when they try to object and ask fans to sit down you get nothing but abuse. So I hope all those fans who refuse to sit down at football matches will take a moment to watch this and remember why we have all seater stadiums now.
Standing isn't the problem, the problem was always the way it was policed and the ancient facilities inside the stands. German clubs have had the Safe Standing option for years which significantly reduces the likelihood of something like Hillsborough happening.
@@stuartsaint4581 I've seen images of the safe standing areas and it looks like it offers the best of both worlds. There are seats squabs that fold back into barriers which break up the fans into distinct rows, all of whom are then unable to push forwards or be pushed into from behind. Granted, it's not quite the same as actual seats, but it's better than what we had then and offers more protection for standing fans than seats do today.
So, so sad, yet at the same time you have to admire the true professionalism of both Des and Jimmy for the way they presented this really tragic event.
Remember watching the game live on rte television in Ireland. Terrible thing it took so many years for Liverpool people to get some sort of closure on it.
It's amazing to me that just 1 or 2 stewards at the tunnel entrance to Pens 3 and 4 could have prevented this disaster. Rip all the innocent souls who died that afternoon and after.
PS The interview with the Chief Constable is incredibly revealing. He waxes lyrical about the suitability of Hillsborough of events such as this, but when asked about the existence of pen pitch-side exit gates, says "I think there must be". Thinks there must be? Only THINKS!! He also says that he's not sure about what caused the central crush or whether tickets would have been checked for those LFC fans allowed entry in an effort to lessen the press outside. It's clear that he was absolutely clueless about the whole affair, despite the police service under his tenure being responsible for the planning and control of an event involving the safety of tens of thousands of people. As I've said, gross incompetence.
This is the first time I’ve seen this MOTD episode. Handled in such a delicate manner. I was fortunate enough to visit Liverpool for the first time ever last year. My thoughts and prayers go to all the families affected. Liverpool folk are such warm and kind people. I am so glad you got the justice you deserved x
Great questioning by Gerald Synstad and the Constable didn't know how many or even if there were gates in the fencing to let people through incredible lack of intelligence
+Eddie Power Are their gates on the fence.....".er I think there must be'"........unbelievable. Opened gates and didn't think wait a minute, where will these 3-4000 extra people be going? Clueless would be 1000 times too complimentary to describe these idiots, it beggars belief.
I was 12 years old in America when this occurred. One of our television news “magazines” 20/20 reported on the story at the end of their broadcast. I remembered being horrified by the photographs they showed of victims, lifeless, pressed upright against the fence. It was an ocean away but it left me feeling scared and sick.
@@DeviantDeveloper No that is not it at all we had to wait 30 years just to get justice that is why it is so public’s all the families fighting for their loved ones. As someone from Liverpool we know how heartbreaking it is. Heysel had a trial and 14 Liverpool fans where convicted of manslaughter. End of the day they are both tragedies and peoples lives where lost it’s heartbreaking all Around.
@@DeviantDeveloperoh my hod you know that people went to prison and served sentences? So justice was done for Heysel do you ever mention other football disasters like Ibrox,Bolton or Bradford? Or do you just want to use the same one to get a little shot at Liverpool fans?
I was watching grandstand as it happened, couldnt bear to watch motd that night so its the first time ive seen this. Des Lynam and Jimmy Hill nailed it. The police chief trying to evade any adequate explanation is just ridiculous. I cant see any connection between opening the gate, letting 1000s of people through quickly and a surge on the terraces. It would be laughable if it wasnt so tragic.
NHL hockey arenas in Canada and the US have sold standing-only tickets for years. Even as a young Detroit Red Wings fan (I'm a lot older now), I got tired of standing by the third period. The ushers would let us sit in the aisle ways as long as we respected the seat holders and didn't block the up-and-down aisle traffic. It was and is very safe, and there has never been a time when anyone felt otherwise. This is important as far as making it work: Detroit only sells 400 standing tickets per game. The key to safe standing is to keep the number manageable.
Terracing was not the problem. Thousands of matches have had capacity crowds, without incident. The problem here was Police incompetence and the fencing around the terraces. RIP the 96, YNWA. From a Wolves fan.
Sorry for arriving late to this, but I have to say the dignified summary and narrative from Des Lynham is absolutely outstanding. Measured, informative, with reigned in emotion. Exactly the right tone. I am sure that he must have been as horrified and sickened as anyone and yet he kept it together in extraordinary circumstances. Other participants, such as Peter Jones, and Jimmy Hill were clearly shocked, but put in words what had to be said. Immense broadcasting.
Was there and cannot agree more.
Yes
That's true. I was just about to type the very same thing.
God bless Des! *For real.*
Des was the best
I have to add that Jimmy Hill, the man that changed the face of modern football by breaking the old wages system was absolutely on the mark here again. He was often a figure of fun but I would urge anybody to listen to the last 5 minutes at the very least. Jimmy Hill knew his stuff.
RIP
He was a gentleman and is missed.
Absolutely right. Jimmy Hill behind his bravado was a highly intelligent man. He basically gave a highlights of a report that wasn't official for another 27 years.
Big up to Jimmy Hill.
I never liked Jimmy Hill but he was right on the button!
RIP to the 96
Thoughts and blessing to all the families and those who tried to help.
And the lies were so disgusting! An avoidable incident.. about time the heads of police roll! They've got away with it for almost 30 years!
Well done Jimmy Hill there at the end. While everybody else was being uptight and cautious in taking a stand, he absolutely nailed the big picture of it all in just a few words.
Incredibly moving, measured and very professional coverage from Des and Jimmy. They got right to the heart of the issue so early on - the lack of a hooligan cause, the opening of the gate by the police and the need for all seater stadia, which all of course turned out to be the conclusions of the enquiry. Staggering to think of how many people attended football matches at the likes of Bradford, Heysel and Hillsborough and didn't come home again. Football truly was a different world back then.
Des Lynam classy throughout as you would expect. RIP the 96
yes not like that tory loving cunt hill always slagging off fans before knowing facts
How about the 39?
Crickets....
Of course the 39 must be respected on another terrible day for football. Plenty of guilty fans were charged and prosecuted for what happened in 1985 and rightly so. The 97 were guilty of nothing. Nobody has been prosecuted for what happened at Hillsborough
@@DeviantDeveloper stop it dufuss
@@DeviantDeveloper stop talking tripe....city lover
Des and Jimmy the ultimate professionals and handled the whole situation superbly. Not sure the current MOD presenters would do such a good job. RIP the 96
I think Gary Lineker would. I've seen him deal with sad stories that's for sure.
If Des Lynam had run for Prime minister I would have voted for him. His respect and composure is something we don't see much of in these modern times.
He *really* was a legend.
@@SuperTed19021IS a legend. He’s not dead!
Well, you’re very silly then aren’t you.
i see nothing i wouldnt expect. Some of his questions are too searching for the wrong answer in my opinion. Mis-managed? By whom Des? He;s already apportioning blame with no knowledge whatsoever. Even worse he suggests Semi Finals should be played -spit- at the repugnant wemb;er;ley
He's even put a black tie on. Good touch.
it is astonishing that a key man in charge of the FA has no opinion on what happened and what needs to be done, but a sports reporter was able to succinctly break down what happened, explain what went wrong, and what needed to be done to stop things in the future. gutless bureaucrats, never change.
Graham Kelly was useless as the FA Chief Executive. Did nothing for the game in the country and had no clue what to do for football in England. An utter wanker, if you ask me
Graham Kelly was a complete & utter disgrace throughout his reign as FA chairman
@@petehayden3553 Kelly was repugnant. Just a pig riding the job for the salary
@@petehayden3553 Complete-and-utter donkey and an *clear* example into why the FA & English football will never change. Jimmy Hill was *just there.*
In fairness, he couldn’t say anything. Firstly he was clearly as affected by the horror unfolding as anyone, secondly he rightly refused to speculate, to comment on things he couldn’t know at that time. He had to stonewall and did. If this happened today the airwaves would be full of stupid knee jerk comments from those who cared only for the short term. This was dignified, adult, and how discourse of this nature should be conducted. Even Peter Wright was responsible and cautious- allowing an inquiry to do its job not hiding behind it. ( I know Kelvin Mackenzie blew all this sky high days later but invited buckets of brown stuff by doing so)
What a classy closing statement from Jimmy Hill.
Hill was a racist.
I remember watching this as a then 12 year old having just got back from Villa Park with my mate and his dad having been at the Everton v Norwich semi final and remember the queues at phone boxes (in the days before mobiles) after the game as Blues phoned about friends and family members who were at Hillsborough. 27 years on and we finally get justice the 96. It just shows what strength we have inside our beloved City.
I fell in love with Merseyside when I visited Liverpool for the first time in 2015. The city is fantastic, the people are tremendous and the unity the population have in the face of this injustice is inspiring. The authorities chose the wrong city to smear when it comes to what happened.
I was only a baby of 3 months old when Hillsborough happened, so it's hard for me to imagine the horror of what happened. When I was at Aintree for the Grand National last year, I got chatting with someone who told me that they were there. And I was stunned into silence, I had no idea what to say to someone who lived through such a horrific day and nearly 30 years since. All I could do was offer my condolences to the guy (he never told me his name), and he appreciated it. Liverpool is a city that will not be divided by those who are outside it, making judgements from afar, and its this tenacious spirit that made me love the area. Much respect from myself 👍
@@SiVlog1989 , beautifully said!
I feel exactly the same about Liverpool. X
As a forest fan stood the other end i can say that the central pen was full a good half an hour if not more before kick off, the side pens where virtually empty. It beggars belief that the tunnel wasn't closed off before they opened the outer gate It was totally the polices fault proper choked watching this, LOVE to the LFC family YNWA
Thanks, despite the rivalry your fans were superb on the day after the news spread. On the anniversary’s the people of Nottingham stopped and paid there respects. Your kind gestures will never be forgotten. Also the people of Sheffield were of great help and comfort helping fans ring home and offering lifts home etc.
Been 30 years, seems like yesterday, hold your loved ones close. Life is so fragile
A lot of you're fans were booing us Liverpool fans
@@lewismonkeyboykennedyynwa6745 The Forest fans were (initially) booing because they didn't know what was happening or why the game had been stopped. From the perspective of the Forest end it looked at first like the Liverpool fans were being rowdy and invading the pitch - they had no idea that at the Liverpool end people were being crushed and trying to escape. When the ambulances started to arrive and people were being stretchered off then it became obvious what had tragically happened. At that point the Forest end fell into mournful silence. Tributes were held in Nottingham for the tragedy which were attended by thousands. No disrespect was shown by the Forest fans and the people of Nottingham towards Liverpool. Some things are bigger than football, and when something like that happens competition and rivalry go out the window.
As soon as the Forest fans knew that some type of disaster was happening and that people were seriously injured, some fatally, they acted like we would all act. Quietly, stunned silence in fact, apart from applauding the brilliant efforts of the Liverpool fans in carrying their fellow fans on stretchers and carrying out first aid.
yjd rxc i know. Why they didn’t do that I will never know. They always used to shut the central tunnel off when the central pens were full. They did it at the 2 previous semi finals and at league and cup games where there was a large away following. Mind you on the 15th April 1989 there was an officer in charge who had replaced the previous guy ( who knew about the problems that could occur at the leppings lane end and also knew what he was doing) 3 weeks beforehand and hadn’t been to a football game for over 10 years!! That end was a known death trap and all it needed was a few things to go wrong to kill people. That unfortunately happened that day.
Jimmy Hill's final comment not only show's how forward thinking he was , but also how Football authorities , police and goverments thought of football supporters , we were just an annoyance to them . JFT96 from a West Ham supporter
It's times like these that make all supporters, no matter what team they support , join together in unity at the tragic deaths of those 96. I as a kid supported Manchester United, but this day I cried my eyes out for those Liverpool fans.
RIP to the now, 97, and massive respect to all the people who helped their fellow fans on the day.
Finally, I’m still in awe of the people of Liverpool, who still after 34 years haven’t seen proper justice. Your fight and comradeship is a lesson to us all ❤
I was in a near riot in The Jungle at Celtic Park when we played Manchester United in a friendly in the late 1980's.
It was terrifying to be crushed, lifted, tossed and smothered by a sea of bodies.
What those people suffered in Sheffield is unimaginable.
Des Lynam & Jimmy Hill, both complete legends into sporting insight.
This report is generally a very fair and accurate account. They emphasise the good behaviour of the Liverpool fans and point out the safety flaws in the stadium design and the obvious overcrowding which caused the crush.
Yup
Hill was openly racist.
@@lw3646 The Liverpool fans caused all of the deaths.
Wow! You arse!
So Des and Jimmy had this spot on in the last five minutes, on the same day. Why did it take until 2016 for the official line to catch up? RIP96 YNWA.
Oh, that's heart wrenching. I really admire Lynam's stoicism, especially as he was there when it happened. I'm so glad there's been a positive result in court - but it should not have taken 27 years.
R.I.P to the 96. From a Mancunian
Jimmy Hill - legend. Absolutely spot on. I remember exactly where I was when this was happening and I wish I didn't. I just hope standing room at stadiums never comes back.
I dunno. I think standing could and should be a viable option. Given tragedies like this I'm sure we've learned enough to make it safe
He should have been in Graham Kelly's position at this time.
Me too. I want terraces again. This disaster wasn’t caused by terracing but poor police management.
A tragedy that could have been avoided! JFT96 from an Arsenal fan!
The late great Jimmy Hill nailing it with that last closing statement at the end..👏
Graham Kelly must be the most gormless man who has ever lived.
You Scousers should be extremely proud of your great city. Justice has finally been served for the 96. Gone but never forgotten... You'll Never Walk Alone! :-)
Yes, I quite agree. And that is coming from an Arsenal fan who watched the most dramatic match in history only a few weeks after these tragic events..
Liverpool IS a great city with great people. I went up there last year. The best city in the UK and I’m from Bournemouth
Not quite yet, Duckenfield and his cronies have yet to be convicted and sent to chokie.
Justice will only come when all those without tickets are brought to trial.
@@sagahammer You'll be waiting a long time for that particular bus..
RIP the 96 and the Bradford 56. Every one of them deserve justice
What about the Heysel 39, or don't they matter?
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of course they matter, David
+David James well yer every tragerdy matters and i think yu know that so stop trying to get a reaction on the internet cos ya lonley people who use tragerdys to make a name for themselves like yu sicken me
Never mentioned Munich air disaster
@@davidparkinson6372 does every disaster have to be listed, to not offend one group.
No one is belittling any other event that happens in history.
However a good event to highlight is the 1981 spurs v wolves semi final, where almost the same event unfolded in the leppings Lane end.
Luckily then the rush wasn't as big but there was 100s of fans that climbed over tje fence and just sat around the pitch side to watch the game. FFW 8 years and nothing was learnt from it.
Des Lynam reported this special Hillsborough edition of Match of the Day with great sensitivity and respect, unlike the ITN news broadcasts.
Des was at Hillsborough as he had presented Grandstand from there. John Motson was the commentator. But of course it wasn't live. It was being recorded for Match of the Day. We only went live once it was a news story and terrible tragedy
It's been a while since I've watched this. Brilliant, respectful journalism and comment from Lynam, Hill and Sinstadt, on one of the most tragic of disasters. Didn't take the police chief long to knock up a ridiculous story and total denial of the factors that contributed.
1981 Tottenham V Wolves.1987 Leeds V Coventry.The warning signs were there but sadly ignored. RIP to the 97.Leeds United fan 😢😢
There's been a lot of things said about this terrible tragedy, some of which make me really angry. I can only comment on this from my own perspective, and from my own personal experiences. I'm a Man Utd fan, and I was at Hillsborough watching United shortly before this tragic accident took place, and was stood where all those poor people lost their lives. I remember that getting into the stand was quite tricky, as I had to climb over people who were stood in the narrow entries to the stand. I was there quite early, the stand was no where near it's full capacity, and I was stood right in the middle. Someone realised a beach ball and it was getting thrown up in the air and fans were hitting it back and forth in the stand. All of a sudden the ball landed behind me and there was a sudden surge with people trying to hit the ball. With this, I was thrown from the middle of the stand, right to the very front, up against the fence. At the time I thought nothing of it, and me and my friend just laughed and made our way back to where we were standing. Then, a little later, the stand filled up and the game began. The corners of the ground were empty at this end of the stadium for segregation purposes, but as the game went on, it became more and more uncomfortable, and gradually supporters climbed the fences and filled the corners. I remember the stewards saw this but didn't even bat an eyelid as if this was something they were used to. There were metal frames dotted about the stand for fans to lean against, and me and my friend were stood behind one. Suddenly United were on the attack and my friend grabbed my arm and pulled me aside so the frame wasn't in front of me... United scored and the crowd celebrated. I was suddenly thrust forward, my face was up against the fence, but again I thought nothing of it, just continued to cheer and laughed it off. I looked back at where I'd been standing and noticed people being squashed over the metal frame I'd been stood behind. Things like this kept happening all through the game, people were climbing fences back and forth to find a more comfortable spot, fans being thrown up against the fence every time something exciting happened. But again, at the time, we just thought nothing of it. It was all part of the standing experience. We just excepted it and enjoyed the game. The only time I felt a little uneasy is when we left the stand. From the stand to the stadium gates, my feet were about 2 inches from the floor, I was being carried along by the crowd, if I'd have fallen, I would have been fucked.
Thinking back now, I feel there was something seriously wrong with that stand, with the design. I'm not quite sure what, whether it was the angle of the floor, the gates, the fences, I don't know. But there was something definitely not right. I'd never experienced anything like that then or since. I know the Liverpool fans rushed the turnstiles, but that kind of thing happened week in and week out, and there was nothing like this that ever happened. I know people will disagree, I know some people blame the police, there's there's even some people who've blamed the fans. But to me, from what I experienced being there, I blame the stand. It just wasn't right.
Jimmy hill showing why he was worth breaking the pay barrier. Spot on in all his views and someone who made the decisions must have been listening and must have taken the advice from the master. Is it a coincidence that very soon after this tragic event the 5yr plan to convert all stadiums to all seated grounds was put in place. Miss you jimmy
It's no coincidence. It was as a result of the Taylor inquiry into this very incident. Taylor being the only official at the time to call it for what it was.
The ninety-seven can rest, high on their cloud
The people of Liverpool have done you so proud
For so many years, everyone asked how?
In God's name why, has it taken til now?
Shouts were ignored, for so many years
Calls for justice, fell on deaf ears.
Pleas for some, to shoulder the blame,
But the ninety-seven live on, in their eternal flame.
Justice At Last For The 97
- A Manchester United Fan (Edited 28/1/22)
+DarkLight753 Nice one :)
+kdunstfan1 Thanks...Could have done a better one if I wasn't rushing it a bit :)
No , it's nice - the families will appreciate it
kdunstfan1 Thank you, I hope they get a chance to see it.
DarkLight753 good lad
"What happens now?" Thirty years of cover-up, excuses, and dishonesty - that's what.
From watching the video it looks like the fans forced their way into the ground without tickets then it got too crowded.
@@Gecko.... That’s exactly what happened, but then they’ll blame everyone for it - scousers killed their own that day
@@Gecko.... A two year enquiry that looked at a lot more than a RUclips video concluded that you are talking rubbish. Do you work for The Sun?
@@Gecko.... Shut Up
Nearly 40 years of silence about Heysel.
I turn 43 next month and I'm a Liverpool supporter it was yesterday that I finally had the strength to start watching everything on Hillsborough, Anne 1 mother's story and all the small RUclips videos, I balled my eyes out every single second. May the 96 rest easy,YNWA
Good on ya brother ❤
A truly devastating time that still seems so raw . I was 13 at the time and loved Liverpool football club .
RIP 97 ❤
@@RoyChadwick51such a sad time in football and Liverpool's history and after all of this you would think the governing bodys would have tried harder for this to never happen again, and it almost did not that long ago with Liverpool fans again,
@@onephatjester1331 still very raw , even after 34 years . Seems like yesterday
Jimmy Hill was beyond his time, may he rest in peace.
His chin was for sure yes
He *should* have been running the FA at this point.
I was 13 when this happened and I remember thinking about the following situation after talking to my grandfather about it who was at many highly attended games: Throughout the 1920's, 30's, right up to the 60's, there were crowds for some games up to and over 100,000 (see many a Rangers V's Celtic game from that time) where there was nothing but terraces and nothing like this ever happened, save for the Ibrox disaster, so for the police to try to blame the fans, forged tickets, drunken violence or anyone but themselves at the time is beyond me. Rest In Peace the 96. I am glad you finally got some form of justice. From a Man City fan. YNWA.
In the old days they did not have the fences to stop people spilling out onto the pitch. The fences where a silly idea, and to put in one tiny escape door added further insult. Not sure who's idea it was. It defeated common sense.
@@Natashahoneypotit was the police who recommend perimeter fencing
Makes me sick listening to Peter Wright lie through his teeth at every possible opportunity. JFT96 YNWA
His ancestors clearly misspelled “wrong”
What lies did he tell? He spoke quite measured I thought from the information he had on the day.
The police only fkd up a situation cozd by scouse fans. Probably the same ones that cozd Heysel. Scousers being scousers. Coz the trouble and blame everyone else
He didn’t lie on the interviews he did on this video, he went on by the information he was given.
Such a sad day - Well done for all the fighting to get the justice deserved - R.I.P 96 - A Leicester City Fan
RIP the 96 from an Aston Villa fan
May those bastards rot for what they did to you. The real football fans know what happened. The thing that always gets me and brings tears to my eyes are the people who gave CPR and who grabbed fans and dragged them to safety in the upper tiers etc. In the midst of cowardice and lies there was heroism that day.
Liverpool killed their own
3:30 “They were helped by fellow Liverpool fans”
3:45 “But again it has to be emphasised, there was no violence of any kind.”
These are the comments being broadcast on national TV on the very day. I wasn’t even born then. To those of you who were watching this, and still decided to spew your hatred and lies: SHAME ON YOU. SHAME.
So true.
Well said.
Well said. The problem was though, that the police fed lies to the papers that Liverpool fans were urinating on police and stealing belongings those being treated or that were already dead. That was the shameful part of it!! Police covered it up from the very start
Jay Taylor There were no pickpockets or anybody urinating on the police. Duckenfield was hiding in his little police box which by the way due to it’s location he could have looked at leppings lane pens without cctv and see what wasgoing on. He should have closed to tunnel off too.
Thatcher fed the lies.
Heart-breaking tragedy. RIP 96 and prayers for everyone who was there or had family and/or friends who's lives were affected.
May we never forget them.
Rip to those who died. Love to every supporter of both teams who were there. Thoughts with families and friends. West Bromwich Albion fan.
I was at the Albion v Plymouth that day. 2-2 draw. I was fuming we'd chucked away a two goal lead, to effectively end our play off hopes, until I got home and found out. Justice for the 97. RIP Bradford and Lincoln 56. .
“You’ll never walk alone love” love from an swfc fan
It's 30 years since nearly 100 people died at Hillsborough. And it has taken that long for the police officer in charge of the event to stand trial.
Finally the verdict is out. Total vindication for the 96 and their families and the supporters also in attendance at that match. The 96 were 'unlawfully killed'. JFT96 YNWA. I hope they can now find the peace they deserve after so long fighting for justice.
Thanks to an Evertonian, I may add as a bluenose.
hi from juve, no justice they are dead , Death is something you cannot repair, our 39 are dead they are dust cold ash underground and your 96 are in the same situation. fuck off Liverpool suffer more and more and more. and you know it you just sing pathetic stupid songs but inside you suffer and Always will. and you know it.
@@user-up9js2xd4h u got your justice strait away when scousers were convicted and locked-up..why did that happen? Coz they got blamed...the police here,diverted the blame..bit like sayn the 39 juve fans died because their fellow juve fans killed them..u sad P.O.S
@@saintlysinner3922 it's completely different! The Liverpool fans were literally crushing each other, can't believe how disgusting Liverpool fans can be, always got to blame someone else rather than take responsibility
@@liamgarde8316 kinel how old r u? Your loathing of scousers outweighs the corrupt police state that was thatchers britain..i undastand lad,believe me i do....so by your default opinion,the miners who got the shit kicked out of them n hospitalíse dafter maggie gave the nod..that's fine to..it was the miners fault for striking,right?
The chairman of Liverpool John Smith said in his interview "this has put our reentry into Europe back". Who cared at the time about that. Poor taste I thought. You compare what he said to what the chairman of forest said and the forest chairman got it spot on.
The same John Smith that tried to blame Chelsea fans for Hysel because someone said they'd heard southern accents among the Liverpool fans.
exactly what i took from that interview, prick, no care for the dead or injured
Absolutely clueless muppet, sort of missed the point about the fact that so many had lost their lives.
who got us kicked out in the first place self pity city that's who JFT 39
Agreed, totally inappropriate and tactless esp. coming from the Liverpool side.
I Have never seen this video before. Its all their in a nut shell. I could cry watching this. All these years later. A tragic day and a hard video to watch. God bless everyone involved.
Great reporting. Economy-of-words commentary perfectly matching shown images. Good interviewing. And on the very first day here, Jimmy Hill explains exactly what happened and how. What he said was confirmed 27 years later, as mind boggling as it is to take so long to get to the truth. But you can see some of the authorities spinning the lie from the get go.
I'd like to know, too, what so-called safety expert first came up with the idea of penning in sports fans, especially with fencing that would not give in a crush like that.
Steve Finlay the establishment does this routinely....no one has an incentive to whistleblow then especially
Jimmy Hill is the only person who gets it.
Thank you for sharing this. Very telling that even on the day, the media *was* aware that the crush outside the turnstiles had formed by twenty minutes before kick-off. Hardly counting as 'late arrivals'.
Jimmy Hill's finest hour, his summing up was spot on
Indeed; people give him a lot of stick but history shows that he was remarkably prescient and forward-thinking in instances like this.
It was, except for the standing bit. It was fencing, not the terrace, that killed people.
makes me cry this, R.I.P all that died at Hillsborough and god bless all there families, justice for the 96
The Chief Constable, Peter Wright, talked utter bollocks on the day / night.
I hope and Pray he's in Hell.
The cover-up was already beginning. Just look at the shameful way the families were treated at the gymnasium that night.
Wright had a reputation as a stringent authoritarian who publicly believed the police were always correct; no matter what. Kinda like George H R Bush and the US military.
When you went into the ground at the Leppings Lane entrance there was a massive sign in the middle "STAND" above the entrance to the tunnel that sloped down to the middle pen. Even people who had been a number of times before thought that was the only way in to the standing area / terraces. From the turnstiles / Gate you could not see any other signs pointing to the two side entrances. God Bless the 96.
I went to see a game at Hillsborough Stadium about 7 years with my mum and dad (we had been in Liverpool for the day whilst staying in Huddersfield), and I was *astonished* how little the ground has changed since this. Also, we got there a minute after kick-off and the staff and police happily let us in 4 minutes late. 🙄 This disaster *shouldn't* happen again in modern football or anywhere, but you never know. Heard the Leppings Lane End has been under investigation again for overcrowding during the Sheff Wed-Newcastle cup tie recently.
@@SuperTed19021Some Newcastle fans didn't bother with their seats, but crowded together to make more of a supporting (bunch) to encourage singing etcetera! Leeds fans left their seats and bunched in the corner at the recent derby against Wednesday to goad the Owls fans in the nearby cantalever stand.
I know it's been 29 years but well done to the BBC and MOTD. Every single aspect and issue that happened that day was covered. And it was clear.
I am glad there was justice served for the Liverpool supporters and we will never forget the 96 who died senseless. I pray for the day The Sun will go out of business for that trash paper. #JFT96
Justice for the 96 at last. So sad it took this long.
What justice? Who went to prison for it?
To all of the families who never gave up hope i salute you all. What you done was fantastic you should all be very proud of yourelves.... Rip 96. To the police, you should be disgusted with all the lies you told. Justice has finally been done. Those involved with with the lies hopefully will pay for their actions It's never to late.. Well done Liverpool!!
I was only a kid when it happened, but the horror of seeing it on tv will never leave me. The thought of what those people went through in their last moments haunts me. How scared must those people have been... it’s hard to imagine how it would feel to be crushed, it’s impossible to know. I cried when I saw the photos showing the mass of bodies... if the metal fence didn’t have that extra bit on the top, more people might have been pulled free. And if only the metal fences were designed to be able to have them pulled down easily for emergencies.
Got to feel sorry for Dalglish, on the terraces of ibrox in 1971, Hillsborough in 1889 and Heysel in 1985
If you ever see him at the match, its time to leave
Massive respect to him for getting on the speakers during the incident.
J H 1989 *
@@nikkibell5805 😂
J H 1889 lol
35 years ago, next Monday, April 15th, 2024, is 35 years. Was there that day , never forget.
Lynham seems more forensic, probing and reasonable that the fools from the legal profession who made a complete mess (whether deliberate or otherwise) of this investigation for years afterwards. Hill also perfectly sensible and reasonable. Anyway, truth and justice, finally.
Yeah, but it is isn't really justice as no police officer has gone inside yet. None will.
When the BBC were worth listening to. A proper reporter, Des.
Des was one of the first BBC sports presenters to show genuine empathy to supporters - Hill although cast as a clown against Venables always spoke a lot of sense.
Will the grown men with no ticket who rushed in be jailed also?
@@rob9999iif they had been the cause of the tragedy. But they weren’t you chop
i know its no consolation but lessons were learned, grounds are safer, the chances of a repeat are miniscule,
+John Harrington It took the Titanic to sink before they started putting enough lifeboats on ships for everyone. Same kind of situation here.
Of course, as ;long as the lessons are acted on.
It nearly happened again at the Euro 2020 final at Wembley....
@@cupcakefairy87No it didn’t!
I think cupcakefairy meant the champions League final in Paris. Luckily it was not the same in regards to tragedy. Though very similar with the police lies and corruption!
I was 10 years old when I watched this. As a young, keen football fan I remember thinking to myself 'This isn't football.' It was anything but football. It was the shit side of life. It was a tragedy of epic proportions. For the fans of both clubs to attend a match full of hope and aspirations only to end in death, destruction, shock, grief, heartache, despair and the loss of loved ones, friends and fellow football fans. If this wasn't enough for those concerned to deal with, the Sun newspaper, the Police and the powers at be ensured the pain and anguish was multiplied still further for decades to come. For the police to cover up their own failings with forged statements and the like demonstrated beyond doubt their total lack of remorse for their contribution towards the death and injury of so many men, women and children.
Anyone who knows anything about the events that led up in the months, weeks and days leading up to the match will know the Police match commander was a total and complete novice in his role. He should not have been appointed to the role in the first place and most definitely should not have been commanding a match of this magnitude. For all of his failings and lack of experience he shouldn't have been employed in the role he presided over so many deaths. For those who saw it fit to assign such a novice to such a role should have taken ultimate responsibility for the failings that day. The police and the powers at be have done a fine job at muddying the waters in apportioning blame for such failures of such a tragedy and without anyone being prosecuted. So many died as a result of a severe command and control failure by the police that day. It was a systemic failure created by sheer policing incompetence who then attempted to cover up their failings which only compounded the heartache of those affected. What a sorry state of affairs. Even as a 45 year old today I still feel that pain and confusion from watching the TV that day. Some things in life make no sense. How and why was this allowed to happen? Despite knowing the how and why many decades later it still makes no sense. It was a senseless loss of life on a grand scale courtesy of the failings of the police...the organisation whose first duty is to protect life. The police let the Liverpool fans down big time that day. They couldn't have let them down any worse than they did.
Thankfully there has been no repeat of such an event in the UK since. It had taken this disaster to improve stadia and crowd control to ensure there has been no repeat. From beyond the grave what the late Jimmy Hill had to say in this video was so true and with such foresight. What he suggested on the day ended up becoming a reality for the safety of all concerned.
I feel for all those affected even to this day. My heart goes out to them all. Life goes on but that day will always live on within those so close to such a tragic day. It's impossible to comprehend such loss and such anguish. For those who know what it's like I doubt they will ever get over it but I certainly admire their unity in getting through such a dreadfully awful day together and every day since. To have found such strength in unity thereafter in the face of such horrific adversity is a testament to those who have pulled together and found such strength. For the affected they have shown themselves and the rest of the world the very best of humanity with humility and a level of humbleness impossible to describe. With regards to the 97 who passed away may God bless them all and may I wish they all get to meet their families and friends once again if and when such a time allows. 🙏
"The Sun" just told the truth in 1989, as did Brian Clough and Sir Bernard Ingham.
Watched coverage on the day, but never seen this full summary of the day from on the day before. Amazing how much they got right on the day before the narrative got changed and distorted in the days, weeks months and years that followed. Des Lynam’s opening commentary is high-class and Gerald Sinstadt is tenacious in his interview with the Chief Constable of South Yorkshire Police.
As an American who supports Chelsea and the England national team this was by far the darkest day in the history of English football. Even though this was seen as an incident caused by incompetent policing in England, the American news media called Hillsborough a fan generated riot just like they did with the Heysel disaster which was ignorant in my view because the fan culture associated with football/soccer wasn’t understood by the American media or the sporting public at the time. It wasn’t until the creation of MLS that soccer fan culture common in Europe and South America was embraced by American supporters creating a greater understanding by the public. As MLS becomes a bigger league I hope a disaster like Hillsborough never happens here in the US. #JusticeForThe96
My mind keeps coming back the friends and families of the '96 who through lies and deceit of the authorities did not live long enough to see the truth come out.
Amazing watching this to see how great British TV, and specifically the BBC once was.
The tone is absolutely spot on with it. Its so moving. Given that its directed and presented by sports journalists is astonishing.
Des would've made a great political journo. He asks the questions, and gives the interviewee enough time to answer so that they hang themselves.
The great Motson spotted the disaster before it even happened
Good old Jimmy was more than happy to put his reputation on the line and accurately say where the problem happened.
MOTD was filled to the brim with people who understood football, understood its fans, and understood its stadiums. They knew exactly what had happened.
What is terrifying is the ease with which the Police chief lied to the BBC just hours after it happened
Des has had quite a broadcasting career including non-sports journalism. According to Wikipedia he even presented the Today programme (Radio 4) for a time, so he certainly had the ability and experience to present in this way.
Rip to the 96 Liverpool fans that lost there lives .that ground is a death trap I've been to Liverpool many times following my team coventry City your fans are class hold your heads up high you never walk alone
" It has to be emphasized, there was no violence or unrest." YNWA
I was 16 watching this, I still remember running out crying to my mam hanging up the washing telling her what was happening.I'm 47 now
Awwwww!
I’m 47 now
I was 13 at the time ❤
RIP 97❤
RIP 97 , from a man utd fan , never forgotten
Seeing all the people being crushed has made me cry (Man Utd supporter)
+1
Eunan McGuire doesn't matter what supporter you are mate, tragedy is tragedy
@@lewis4523 you said it for me
Poor girl at 3:14 - her brother and her brothers partner were killed in the crush.
+Robot Lover Indeed, yes. That's Stephanie Jones. She was 18 at the time and this was her first away game. Her brother's name is Richard and his girlfriend's name is Tracey. Stephanie has spoken so well on Hillsborough over the years.
Terrible.
Bigger the uniform, the more mistrust should be applied. When asked who my heroes are, the families of the victims of Hillsborough always make my list . RIP 96
Des did an amazing job that day I was 15 years old when this happened the way he came across he was so balanced when asking questions, I remember this day like it was yesterday a horrible day
Des Lynam is a class act.
first the cops say the gate was opened by police order then says they were forced open. Lies from the start
Chelsea fan here. Always a place in my heart for the Liverpool fans and their families who have suffered as a result of this terrible incident.
An absolute tragic, so heart breaking so see the amount of Liverpool supporters being crushed due to poor attention from the police. With all respect to the Liverpool community who never gave up!! RIP to the 96 who died in vain. Love from West Ham supporter
Im a Liverpool fan... I was eleven years old when this happened..I remember vaguely watching it unfold live on BBC grandstand, and this effected me more I think in my later years....This April will be the 30th anniversary... I think as a club...We have not been the same since this fateful day...But looking at this now... Something stunk even then...Just like the heysel stadium disaster
back then...Their had been complaints about the hillsborough stadium for years....and then the truth was buried for over twenty years...The victims families of the heysel tragedy should also bring criminal charges against UEFA and the Belgian authorities themselves....
Well said Jimmy Hill. RIP.
my granddad died there :'(
Jimmys not dead. Just old.
Gosh, so he is. Good to hear it.
+Wolfe Flambe he's dead now
Josh Harbach 3 years late but RIP ...
The BBC were spot on with there reporting that day it’s a shame it took so long for everybody to realise the truth
The fans were 100% to blame.
Fool
Jft 96. My granddad was scouse.I sat in Auckland New Zealand that morning in tears.
Still distressing to watch after 27 years and as a Supporter of Glasgow Rangers we had our own Tragedy in 1971 when 66 fans died on stairway 13 R.I.P to the 96. Now we have all seater stadiums and world class facilities in place I hope we never ever see anything like this again. I also hope they don't try and bring back standing area's at ground's I still have doubt's that this will work and it makes my blood boil when I see fans standing at matches and refusing to sit down which spoils the view for young children and older fans and when they try to object and ask fans to sit down you get nothing but abuse. So I hope all those fans who refuse to sit down at football matches will take a moment to watch this and remember why we have all seater stadiums now.
+stephen thompson People don't forget Ibrox, or Bradford either. Both were also tragedies for football in the UK.
It wasn't a tragedy,it was set up to implement all seater stadiums,jobs for the boys.. !!!
Standing isn't the problem, the problem was always the way it was policed and the ancient facilities inside the stands. German clubs have had the Safe Standing option for years which significantly reduces the likelihood of something like Hillsborough happening.
@@stuartsaint4581 I've seen images of the safe standing areas and it looks like it offers the best of both worlds. There are seats squabs that fold back into barriers which break up the fans into distinct rows, all of whom are then unable to push forwards or be pushed into from behind. Granted, it's not quite the same as actual seats, but it's better than what we had then and offers more protection for standing fans than seats do today.
Safe Standing is fine...
Heart goes out to all who suffered that day.
So, so sad, yet at the same time you have to admire the true professionalism of both Des and Jimmy for the way they presented this really tragic event.
Remember watching the game live on rte television in Ireland. Terrible thing it took so many years for Liverpool people to get some sort of closure on it.
JFT96 at last from a Aston Villa fan x
It's amazing to me that just 1 or 2 stewards at the tunnel entrance to Pens 3 and 4 could have prevented this disaster. Rip all the innocent souls who died that afternoon and after.
PS The interview with the Chief Constable is incredibly revealing. He waxes lyrical about the suitability of Hillsborough of events such as this, but when asked about the existence of pen pitch-side exit gates, says "I think there must be". Thinks there must be? Only THINKS!!
He also says that he's not sure about what caused the central crush or whether tickets would have been checked for those LFC fans allowed entry in an effort to lessen the press outside. It's clear that he was absolutely clueless about the whole affair, despite the police service under his tenure being responsible for the planning and control of an event involving the safety of tens of thousands of people. As I've said, gross incompetence.
This is the first time I’ve seen this MOTD episode. Handled in such a delicate manner. I was fortunate enough to visit Liverpool for the first time ever last year. My thoughts and prayers go to all the families affected. Liverpool folk are such warm and kind people. I am so glad you got the justice you deserved x
The Liverpool fans caused all of the deaths.
Great questioning by Gerald Synstad and the Constable didn't know how many or even if there were gates in the fencing to let people through incredible lack of intelligence
+Eddie Power
Are their gates on the fence.....".er I think there must be'"........unbelievable. Opened gates and didn't think wait a minute, where will these 3-4000 extra people be going? Clueless would be 1000 times too complimentary to describe these idiots, it beggars belief.
The fact the crush barriers were all mangled and bent shows how bad the presssure was in that end.
I was 12 years old in America when this occurred. One of our television news “magazines” 20/20 reported on the story at the end of their broadcast. I remembered being horrified by the photographs they showed of victims, lifeless, pressed upright against the fence. It was an ocean away but it left me feeling scared and sick.
unbelievable to think that the guy running crowd safety that day had no previous experience. wow
Des Lynam, what a great presenter.
Justice for the 96! A Leicester City Supporter and never buy the Sun
Want justice for the 39? (Juventus fans murdered by Liverpool fans a few years before - funny Liverpool fans never bring up Heysel, I wonder why)
@@DeviantDeveloper No that is not it at all we had to wait 30 years just to get justice that is why it is so public’s all the families fighting for their loved ones. As someone from Liverpool we know how heartbreaking it is. Heysel had a trial and 14 Liverpool fans where convicted of manslaughter.
End of the day they are both tragedies and peoples lives where lost it’s heartbreaking all
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@@DeviantDeveloperoh my hod you know that people went to prison and served sentences? So justice was done for Heysel do you ever mention other football disasters like Ibrox,Bolton or Bradford? Or do you just want to use the same one to get a little shot at Liverpool fans?
I was watching grandstand as it happened, couldnt bear to watch motd that night so its the first time ive seen this. Des Lynam and Jimmy Hill nailed it. The police chief trying to evade any adequate explanation is just ridiculous. I cant see any connection between opening the gate, letting 1000s of people through quickly and a surge on the terraces. It would be laughable if it wasnt so tragic.
Never a truer word was spoken by Jimmy Hill at the end. Regarding all seater stadiums for the future.
Terracing must not return ever!
they're fine in Germany
NHL hockey arenas in Canada and the US have sold standing-only tickets for years.
Even as a young Detroit Red Wings fan (I'm a lot older now), I got tired of standing by the third period. The ushers would let us sit in the aisle ways as long as we respected the seat holders and didn't block the up-and-down aisle traffic.
It was and is very safe, and there has never been a time when anyone felt otherwise.
This is important as far as making it work: Detroit only sells 400 standing tickets per game. The key to safe standing is to keep the number manageable.
Terracing was not the problem. Thousands of matches have had capacity crowds, without incident. The problem here was Police incompetence and the fencing around the terraces. RIP the 96, YNWA. From a Wolves fan.
Rest in Peace 96!